 Welcome to Trophy TV. This season is over. We're considering a review of the season. We've done a review, just a general review of the season and we are going to break it down into some smaller sections and go through one by one. What we're doing at the moment is how the new players did last season. Now, even though it still feels like this season doesn't it, because it's only a few days old. Paed, obviously, we've got the lads there, the four outfield players that have been brought in last summer. Is it fair to say that, on the whole, that it was positive all four of them? Positive, yeah, but... Do you feel like you fell away a bit? I feel like it was only in bits and pieces because of injuries and because we didn't get to see them play enough together to form the chemistries. I think you need to have a good team. I think obviously the stand-out has been good for you, played most of the season once he got established himself around late November every December. But the other three, because of the injuries, don't get me wrong, the court did play most of the season until he got that injury. But again, then he missed a large piece of a crucial part of the season. Alan obviously missed the middle section and Hamas Yrdrigus was in and out. So, I don't think you can say it was absolutely positive just because of the injuries. And I think with saying it was two of those, I don't know, saying it's Hamas Yrdrigus we're going to have to manage it better. Alan may be the same. The court have no real worries about. And obviously Ben Godfrey, I think, is the stand-out. So, positive, yes, because I think all four of them showed really good little bits. But they never put it together and I suppose that's really the story of the season, I think. I mean, have you got anything to add to that or any disagreement there? No, I think you spot on. I think you absolutely spot on. Ben Godfrey obviously has been the stand-out and he's the profile of player that everything should be looking at in the future as well. Young, athletic, physical, big, obviously he's been fit for the majority of the season since he's come into the team. He hasn't spent any time out injured. And the other three have done well and injuries have ultimately affected them. Again, we all sat here before Dekore got injured and said it's only a matter of time before he picks up an injury because he's playing every single game and so he did and he was out for a really important spell. Alan was out for a month or so, wasn't he? A couple of months with the hamstring engineer and Hamas has been in and out. But while I've been on the pitch for the most part I've done well, obviously I think they can be better. I think you can get more out of Dekore by improving on his passing and stuff, more out of Alan by having somebody else next to him. You can do a bit more running as well as Dekore. But it's been positive per se, but I think it could be better next season if you bring in better players. But Ben Godfrey's been the stand-out for me, absolutely fantastic. Let's start off with Ben Godfrey and his stats for the season. Played 36 games, started 34, this is all competitions. He had two assists, 11 clean sheets, 1.1 interception per game, average in 1.8 tackles per game, average in three and a half clearances per game and I guess the one at the bottom, errors leading to goals zero. He has been fantastic as we come in obviously near the end of the transfer window, excuse me. We didn't probably know that much of Arman and what to expect from him because he was coming in. Obviously Gabrielle had been the centre back then and looked at it earlier on. That didn't really happen and then it looked as though. I mean there's a big case to say that he wouldn't have come at all, if Holgate wouldn't have picked up that injury against Preston in the final pre-season game. But he came in and he did well didn't he? No, he had an excellent season and I think Cameluda to it there. He's got to be the prototype of the players we look at now because we give him a chance. I know he'd already played in the Premier League and he'd already established himself as an England player in terms of the youth coming through the youth and everything. So I think the smarter people, he would have been on the radar for the smarter people in football. But when we spoke to Jack Reeve from Talk Knowledge and he just said you're getting such a good player and such a wholehearted committed player and that got us excited and then watching him and seeing the type of player he was certainly becoming an everton favourite, a fan's favourite. So that's got to be, he's got to be, I think he got played, young player in it didn't he? That has to be the prototype I think going forward because I think when you bring a player in and he is allowed to bed into the team and get games under his belt. It was a little bit of a difficult star for him coming in. I think he played Southampton didn't he? That was like his first game wasn't he? That was our first defeat. Made his baby the week before. He came on the derby didn't he of course. So that was his first start and it was difficult for him but he grew and I think when you do leave players in the team to grow and this is where Everton have not been successful maybe in the last few years is young players don't get a chance to settle in and then you know end up moving on and may look good elsewhere. But it's how much they want it and I think Ben Goffrey wants it. He wants to be an everton player, he wants to be an everton starter, he showed that. And I've seen a couple of people mention you know today I've seen on social media people are like oh well maybe if we'd left Moise Keane in the team the same would have happened but would it though because the attitude is the same. Dominic Alvin Lewin is a young player who got left in the team and look at him. You know he's flying he got play the year and there are two examples of going two examples of going and getting young lads. Okay listen he cost 20 million quid he didn't just get picked from obscurity but it does show you that bringing a player in letting them bed in and getting used to the system and everything and what it takes to be a Premier League player. If they've got the desire and the attitude and obviously you've got the attribute needed then they can make it and I would much rather do that than go and look for 29 year old, 30 year old player who's obviously passed his day but ticks all the boxes when it comes to easy scouting really that to be honest so he's been brilliant. Pets just said they're young player of the year and fully deserve it. Absolutely he's been brilliant. His desire, his mentality, his attitude, his passion you mean you've seen him in the meddysart derby for example after the game he left out a big roar of you know emotion and this is a lad who's been at everything for five six months at this point not a lad who's grown up for his whole life supporting everything he's only just joined and you can see that he's got the strength to win that game of football. Another compliment to Ben is his versatility. We haven't got many versitile players in this squad. We haven't got many players that can play in multiple different positions or at least they're willing to play in multiple different positions. Luca Deane picks up an injury he's going to spend a couple of months out and needs an operation and we're also just sitting there going who plays at left back. Fabian Delf comes in for seven minutes and then goes off and Ben Goffrey says you know what I'll go there I'll give it 110% there. I might be my best position I might be 110% every time I play there and he was absolutely excellent to the point where when Luca Deane returned from injury people were saying should we keep it as it is and play him further forward and keep Ben Goffrey at left back so you know again he's brought that which not many players in this squad have and he's been just fantastic defensively. Had he got things to improve on obviously but 22 years old he's only a kid he's big he's physical he's sort of stronger than most in the Premier League players will bounce off him and he's accelerations like a steam train once he gets going he's going past everybody so he's the exact type of player that we need to be looking at bringing in more of in the summer and he wasn't cheap he did cost 20 million but he'd rather spend 20 million on a Ben Goffrey than 20 million on a I don't know care and trip here. Let's say for example who's at that age now where he's not going to care about everything. Yeah I totally agree I think he's been absolutely superb he's been a pleasant surprise in terms of what I mean by that is everywhere he's played he's done a good job really he can count the poor games he's had on one finger probably and that was last Sunday against City but he wasn't alone so yeah absolutely totally agree he should be the prototype that we're looking at and we could get a few more Ben Goffreys and obviously just being called up to the provisional England squad as well so we fully deserved it. Next on the list is Hamers Rodriguez someone who is as well have been better in social media from Evertonians I think in the last week or so but for me I think he's been excellent I think he's missed too many games like you both said but that to me is like buying a house with a broken window and complaining not the wind getting. We knew exactly what we were getting he was free he had injury problems his medical took longer than it may have should have done and we knew what we were getting. He's been involved in 26 games starts at 24 for Everton six goals five I don't think that I'm assist to right but I'll go with it on there cos it's eight I think it all comes with it yeah. Key passes 1.8 a game big chances created 11 and pass nachir is 83% and for me still when it clicks for him he's genuinely world class the early years I mean camera you start off. Absolutely I mean like you said again you know expectation changes throughout the course of a season doesn't it when we signed Hamers Rodriguez in the summer we all sort of knew that we were getting a player who was going to have injury issues let's have it right if Hamers Rodriguez didn't have injury issues he wouldn't be anywhere near Everton football club so we knew what we were getting when we brought him in and he's played played a lot more games than I think people actually think this season when you actually look at his stats he's been involved in a lot of games of obviously he's missed big games as well and he's missed games that we could have done with him in but when he's played he's been phenomenal you think to his goal against Lester which was a great finish man United goal was a brilliant finish even a palace goal he squeezes that into such a tight angle as assisting the derby was fantastic he just does everything so effortlessly and this is something that we have to accept with Hamers Rodriguez is that there's going to be times when on a Friday Carlo says he's fit and we're all looking forward to seeing him and on a Saturday afternoon he isn't in the squad cos he's picked up an injury and it's frustrating and I get it and it's annoying and I get that he's not reliable but we knew all of this going into the season and in exchange for that what you get when he is there and he is fit is a genuine world-class player who's you know much more creative than anybody else at the club and technically a much better footballer than anybody else at the club as well so I agree with you mate I think he's had a really good season and the only disappointment is obviously the injuries and stuff like that but that's not no surprise to anybody and when he's being there you know if he'd have come in and in the games he played you know let's say you had one goal and two assists you'd say well he's had loads of injuries and he hasn't done it when he's played but you can't say that cos when he's being there he's done it whether it be assists whether it be chances created whether it be goals being involved hasn't he so now I think he's had a good season and you know he's not going to play 38 games next season he's not going to become fitter he's probably only become worse so we have to accept him for what he is and that's a world-class footballer with injury issues. Just on the back of that then do you think some of the criticism you get is a byproduct of the fact that we don't have anyone else who can come in so when he's not fit it's like it's a wobby who doesn't do it. Yeah I think everything has to be in charge of the situation they have to dictate when he plays and when he doesn't play and when they need to be ahead of that. Now if he is so important then the flip side of that is how do you build a team if plays are going to be you can I would think a lot of people would be thinking or some people would be thinking how do you build a team when your best player is available all the time and I don't get me wrong I fall in the idea of we would have him and he's a great asset and everything but I do understand people thinking well what's the point of having him if you can't play him every week you could have a player who plays every week you could have better stats than that do you know what I mean it's great that he's scored goals and great that he's unlocked defences but the flip side of that is we could have a young kid in there who could have better stats over the year isn't that more important? Yeah because what I'm saying is moving forward if we go and get that wing of this then just become the squad player who's got that ability he's only got one wing How do you think before you finish off with that how do you think he's done overall on this? I think he's done well when he's been on the pitch not every game's been good and I think what we've actually done is we've not always played him when he was at his best there was games when he should never have played Southampton, never played at Southampton and maybe that was more that was laying as the season went by and there were times when he shouldn't have played anyway because it wasn't actually best for the team there were times in December when we shut up shop when he wouldn't have maybe wouldn't have added anything maybe some games he would have but I do think though this is where Evan have got to be this is where Evan have got to be clever with this is that they shouldn't get bog down with thinking that Hamas Rodriguez is the be all and end though because as I just said there we could bring a young player in the summer who could get brought into the side daily on and then maybe dips in in and out but if there's an opportunity to give someone a longer time chance and it's because Hamas Rodriguez is in the way then maybe you've got to make a tough decision because I do think over a whole season you could get a young player you could have better stats than that and that's got to be the trade off but we don't have that player already so I'm quite happy with what he's done this season he's added something he is class we wouldn't have him outside the club he adds something you know the branding and everything he gives us a gateway into America Latin America and all that so that's all good but I think it has been proven by all the clubs in the past that sometimes you've just got to be careful that you don't get caught up in all of that and that's going to be interesting next season be interesting I really hope he has a good copper America because again it'll be like evidence Hamas Rodriguez and that will be that'll be very interesting if he did have one to see what happened after that but yeah I mean this is a you'll come into second season and it'll be just interesting to see how they manage him but it's got to be on our teams and that's what we got wrong I think there was opportunities there last season I think Carlo Leans as the season went on I think last summer was a very short time summer it was bringing we needed energy in the midfield absolutely urgently so brought in Dakota who's Premier League proven we needed a bit of a battle so we brought in Alan even though he's in his 30s and obviously we knew that if he got an injury like a hamstring injury it was going to suffer and we needed a bit of quality because other than Hamas we didn't have at the time Hamas whereas this summer I think we need to look at more of long-term solutions because Hamas is a short-term solution there's need to a long-term solution because ultimately the problem with all of these players is that and I remember when we brought them in it was like but what if they get injured we go back to the place we had you can't refresh a whole squad over a summer you have to add quality and then the players in the scene will drop to the bench and then you add quality again and the players that are in the scene drop to the bench and you move those players on and that's the problem with Evan and we because we've got it wrong so many times the players we keep adding are actually better than the players we've got and you end up with this weird mix of poor players and a couple of good players and you feel the drop-off so much when they're not in the side but that's what I'm saying we'll have a year left with them and if we were to get someone like Diabi at Liverpool and he's 21 he's obviously your long-term and he's somebody we can dip in and dip out for the season so that when we get to next summer maybe it is a case of not taking the option up on hammers then depending on how it's done he might work brilliantly, he might be available for 25 games next season and he's coming on in some games and scoring, he's starting others he's playing in the number 10 in setting games because he's got runners and then you see the best of them but it's got to be on our terms because if we're trying to build a team around him and he can't play you can't build a team around him he's got to be the extra bit of sprinkle on top of the team that's already being built and that's functioning without him well yeah, which isn't at the moment for me it's always been really good but obviously it's not available enough you mentioned there Abdelhaid the Coray I've been trying to get him for a couple of seasons played 34 games and all competition started 32 three goals and three assists from centre of the field passed anachyr is he 85% that'll surprise some people tackles 1.8 per game and progressive ball carries 3.95 per game per Abdelhaid the Coray a player evident wanted for a couple of years the exact type of player evident needed for midfield and on the whole I think he had a very good season yeah it was really good and something you mentioned there we were all waiting for an injury because he'd been overplayed and that's the problem again and you don't have a natural backup you know, you're waiting almost for the time it would happen but he was excellent for large parts of the season he was you know when he came back from injury I don't think he looked anywhere near fit there was moments maybe around November when he looked a little bit offered as well but we haven't got anyone like him and the thing is now to buy someone who is like him a younger version if you do that do what we just said not make him the backup but make it so that you're looking at him thinking like 28 29 you bring a younger version in you bed someone in for a year so next season then he becomes the player who's now trying to break into the side because the young players come through and that's the way you've got to look at it I think that's what's been interesting go back to Ben Goffy similar with that Ben Goffy started the season a breakthrough season for him to start next season as the main member because he's broken through and done that himself but sometimes you do need that crossover year and it's good to have a player like Abdelhaith Corrie in the side but for the holes done well again just broken up with maybe injuries or not quite on it because he's playing too much I'd like to have seen more goals of him in more honesty but that was our thoughts I think both the team wasn't set up for a player like him he was just dropped into it I said go on do what you can do because the team once Seamus Coleman got injured early on the season the team just looked absolutely all over the place it never truly recovered from that it never recovered from Seamus Coleman getting injured it really didn't just from a balanced perspective I mean the Corrie again for me exactly what we needed I understand the criticism with the sloppy sometimes and he gives the ball away but energetic all over the pitch and if you had another one in the midfield I think he'd improve even more I was going to say there's not many players with energy in the seventh midfield but there's no players with energy in the seventh midfield other than Abdelhaith Corrie he's passing his sloppy at times and he does give the ball away and he does he goes back and gets it or he goes back and challenges for it his energy is again it's so so important to the seventh team because like I said nobody else brings that he's constantly getting about the pitch he's picking the ball up he's moving it and I agree I'd like to see him in a bit more of a progressive sort of position getting the ball forward and basing into the opposition's box one thing that I think has sort of hindered them a little bit which is in his fault is that when obviously Alan was out injured he was sort of having to do Alan's job as well a little bit so he wasn't able to just pick the ball up and roam where he wanted because he was having to worry about and he had to do Hamers so he had to do three jobs effectively and therefore he was sort of caught in between what he needed and what he wanted to do but now I think he's had a good season again he's a player that he's so so important we talk about Ben Goffrey being our son another season but Abdelhaith Corrie's importance is you can't underestimate he's so important to the seventh team because we simply don't have anybody like him, we don't have anybody that can come in and get about the pitch, that can run around that can constantly go for 90 minutes without any issue and there's a reason as to why he'd only missed one Premier League game before his injury and that was through a suspension every other game he'd played because Carlo knows you know you're me runnery and I've got nobody else you're going to have to start, you're going to have to do what you can and I do think there was a bit of that do what you can with him when Alan was injured and when Hamers was injured and he was having to do that role rather than just doing his own sort of role but we've saw flashes of what he can do as a forward thing and play, we saw the goal against Fulham where he based into the box in the other day we saw the goal against United Goal at Old Trafford United Goal at Old Trafford United Goal at Old Trafford yet so we've saw flashes of it, I'd like to see more of it but I don't think that's necessarily his fault I think that's the fault of again sometimes the setup of the team but other times the fact that different types of roles rather than the one that he's been brought into Yeah, I agree I think for Waffa, half a dozen goals a season and he has added some goals from centre midfield which we got me and you done this last year and we went through it and I think the whole midfield had three goals that's barb and hard between them and he's got that on his own but he can get better there's no question about it and I think it is a case of trust as well and I think if you've got another type like him in there he will make that run because he knows they're covering whereas sometimes he's looking and thinking well Tom Davis gets caught out his legs or a ball and over and he's impressed until he's well because Carlo said a couple of times that you know he didn't know that much about him but he's seen them and thought actually yeah you remember the challenge day one of the season, he'd run back and put the tackling on him which was fantastic so yeah I think he's had a good season and can do better of course he can but I think with other players He's also fell victim of that because we've got nobody like him when he becomes fit as per se can run around again he's straight in there he shouldn't have played again this season but because we've got no alternative he's had to be in there and it's something that Alan alluded to Alan said in an interview a couple of weeks ago he said when he returned from injury it's so difficult to get back to match fitness it's so difficult to get back to that mentality and it's even more difficult when you haven't got the time to do it because you're just throwing straight back in so and this has been a tough season because the games have been three seasons and the games have been every three days you just mentioned Alan there and obviously he was the fourth outfield player that he brought in coming from Napoli he's 30 years of age he played 26 games he started 25 passed an accuracy of 86% he passes no 0.8 tackles 3.3 per game which is quite high interceptions no 0.8 duels one per game, six duels a game he's also up in the press and stats as well he's quite high in the Amanda Corey actually quite high in the press and stats as well so Alan for you what's your thought on that bit mixed I think he was I think it was the injury was obviously I think he was just getting to a really good place when he got the injury to the point where I think a lot of us were when he got that injury because that night he was super and I think that really did could tell his progress more than anything else I think he really did stop him in his tracks because at times later on in the season he did look slow and offy but then at other times he looked like he was the only player in our team who could pick up the ball and carry it he's a strange player because he's not quite one thing he's not he's not quite a garner type because I don't think he he hasn't got that he's not quick over the ground but he does see things ahead of time but then other times he goes to ground really it's one thing I don't like about him is that he goes to ground really easy for me and I just making tackles or like committing himself I do think at times he commits himself far too early for a player of that kind of experience I don't understand like sometimes you'll get it like the goal chef he's united scored I don't understand why he was in that position and a few games behind that he kept on doing it's like you can't go to ground in the Premier League because either it's a foul or you'll be taking out the game so there's no point in doing it so he's he is a little bit in between I think he needs other players around him everyone we talk about we seem to say he needs other players around him I don't know how he plays we think we're going to have another team maybe if we just started 15 we'd play like a rugby team so we might have to have the same amount of players but it's all the same thing though isn't it when I say I need players around him it's all the same thing we need players you can run that's what keeps you going it's almost like it's the idea of if you've got pace especially coming from full back there's not as much responsibility on players like him to do that to get the ball and run with it we should have someone in midfield who can't pick up the ball and run with it and it shouldn't be him because what will happen is he'll pick up the ball fine he can't go very far and then he's out of position and I think that's been we've been asking the wrong players to do say in jobs this season and it hasn't worked all these little things that don't quite make us a team and I think he's fallen to that trap this season and again this is the first year in the Premier League it's always difficult to know if you've been playing saying in Italy when it's slawy it's always difficult to know how you're going to cope with it and again coming in no pre-season week before the season starts and then like you've just set camp there you have a bad injury and then you're expected to come back on the side and make an impression and as fans we don't we aren't willing to we have this idea that well if you're back in the team you better be doing it and that falls more on you think that he's coming back at the level he went out to because he's that knight of lester he was super he was starting to get that head of steam I don't think he ever quite got to that level when he came back and it's about finding the balance and somewhere in here there's a balance if we had maybe three or four more players and I think all of these players we've talked about will benefit from that one way or another yeah so it's a bit I mean again you know he's played 26 games I mean to me that's not enough almost half games because we got to quarterfying I mean I know he got a bad injury so it's not on him but again it's like who replaces him Tom Davis replaced him and did really well but Tom Davis doesn't play in that position certainly doesn't pick the ball up and move it like he does he's been really good in some games in other games I've just thought you probably could have done with not playing in this game I think that's more of the thing again it's like you need a squad to carry these players you need a squad I think with him if you had him in two runners either side I think it makes him much better because if he does go on those runs when he gets off with them because he's really good passer at the ball and he can't carry it if he does vacate his position someone's got to go on dropping for him it's got to be someone with legs at times he's been caught with that but overall what have you made of Alan? I like him like you just said he's got no sort of pace or energy so I think in some games this season you see him against Man City for the first goal he was just passed around too easily and he hasn't got that energy to keep up with the plays great on the ball he guides himself in between at times as well I do think he over commits himself too much which is a bit strange maybe just again he's used to playing in Italy and being a little bit slower but with you if you add two runners either side of him that sort of you know covered for that lack of sort of pace and energy that he has then he'd work a lot better because on the ball he's very good he's got nimble feet he gets around players and he can get it to four with positions but you know if you've got a counter at the opposition and you've got Alan chasing back he's getting nowhere near any of them because he just hasn't got that natural pace I think that's let him down again this season but not let him down because he's in the wrong sort of situation he's in the wrong position I think we may be thought a bit much of him but again I think he's had a decent season some games he's being really impressive West Ham the other week he was really good but then other games he's just being completely another league just out of it he's just being a passenger he was greater West Ham than a filly he was poor but he just wasn't the same it's really hard to be a player who presses when no one else presses it leaves you looking stupid at times and yet it's not his fault that is natural game to go and press but if no one else is doing it then you're going in and then you've abandoned a position but you're having because that's what's natural to you so we have to come up with some solutions to these problems I think with him I think if you do have runners and it's not even it is about having them alongside you because you've got to be able to trust them that you might be going to do your job for you on the ball and we've seen against the Villar at home he went pressing the ball like he had to Douglas Lewis because no one else was but he went pressing and André Gomez and Guilffy Sigurdson no-one thought Mark Ross Barclay because he's left his position because he's gone doing the job that I really should have done and they just went Douglas Lewis went to the yard and gave it to Barclay and they were on the half-train off so you'd have got off the people who'd do that but as well as that when you say Alan often he'll step into that midfield with the ball and he's looking no-one's making a run down the wing for him because I think often he'd get it out of his feet and he'd be in there and he'd be in there and everyone's standing still so he kind of does that thing where he stops and goes like who's the pass next minute around them and he might lose it or he'll commit or he'll knock it forward and you can see him looking down because he's had three schmetins and Fabian Ruwys wanting the ball and you know, Zeolenski go and give me the ball and Napoli, he's come here and we've got statues of people who run at him like a whoa, we'll run to him and go, no mate, go the other way so he's spreading the pitch out for me so I think if we do get runners full back bombing on or a winger again I think it'll make him like with the others look good but I think with all of them you haven't seen spells but you haven't seen as much as we could see but that's not necessarily down to them as players, it's down to everybody else around them and I think like Petra before in isolation they've all had the good spells we just haven't had them on the pitch enough for the season when you think of the season it was like everything was bobbing along and then Hamas, Van Dyck don't Hamas, didn't he and then he wasn't right for a bit and then Luca Diem went out the team and then a week later Alan went out the team and then we got Alan back in the quarry and you were like can we just have our team and I guess if you're being the unlucky or unlucky everton it'd have been nice to see us have our main scene for the majority of the season but this season given that we had no pre-season and the games were crunch back to back it was obviously gone of that when you haven't got a big squad the minute you're playing a lot of games in a short space of time injuries are likely to happen and I guess the man had to look at that and think well if we get a full pre-season and get him up to the kind of speed on the court and maybe Hamas to an extent then maybe next season we'll get a little bit more out of them and hopefully we can gel together but just very quickly we haven't got him on there but Robin Olsham is another one who came in and played some games for Evan how do you think he's done overall? I think he did fine don't forget the game against Leeds it was absolutely incredible but what happens doesn't it some games you'll be brilliant being a second choice but I think he's a much better second choice than we've had for a very long time at Evan whether we keep him I don't know he seemed to push Jordan Pickford up a little bit as well or maybe Jordan Pickford had to re-evaluate how he was doing things and it worked so be interesting to see whether we do keep him or we go action and say no we want a better number two so push Jordan Pickford on even more because Jordan Pickford had a great end of the season and if that is any way because of Robin Olsham then it worked he's going to the Euros isn't he he might attract if it becomes the answer of money Evan might think it's a little bit much to play for the number two what's your thoughts on Robin Olsham because I think he's done okay he's done well at times just over a couple of the goals he led in man unites of the life things like that but the third one I was thinking as well when he slipped just in general what have you made Robin Olsham I think he's done well certainly not often in my lifetime I haven't had a backup goalkeeper that you think you're a genuine competition for the number one usually they're just there to sit on the bench and it's like Stechlenberg about 48 something when he was on the bench Jonas Lasall was never good enough so Jordan Pickford subconsciously he was probably thinking I'm going to get abs in this team I can have a little smirk at the crowd I can have a little thingy with the fans because I'm in every week where it's this season obviously he was taken out after the der being Carlo said it's not because of what's gone on it's because I rotate me goalkeepers and I want to give this fella an opportunity and then he played for a couple of games and he was doing well so I think Jordan has sat back and gone I've got the Euros in the summer and in this team and I need to be keeping me plays and I do think that the introduction of Robin Olson and having him coming and play games and Jordan not knowing if he's going to be in there week in week out has sort of helped improve Jordan Pickford he's matured an awful lot he's cut out the silly mistakes and he seems to have well he has become a much better goalkeeper certainly in the last couple of months or so yet look again obviously he had the personal thing with his home and stuff and I suppose I think Angelotti will say to him if you want to stay we'll keep you obviously a decision in it a bid did need to be made and accepted accepted but we need to keep whether it's Olson or somebody else we need a number two we can really seriously post Jordan Pickford because look at how much it's improved and we need that in every position as well serious competition in the squad yeah definitely I mean he played 11 games had three clean sheets in his shade percentage was 73.3 so that was quite good so I think he's done well and if the biggest thing we can take out of it is that post Jordan Pickford on to finish the season really strongly then it's been a good thing so yeah we'll see what happens with him here I don't know whether we will keep him but we'll see we'll see won't we there you go that's our assessment of Evan's new science last summer let us know what you think in the comment section below have we been generous have we been harsh let us know I'm sure you will give the video a thumbs up subscribe if you haven't if you want more videos join us over on patreon on the mighty blues youtube channel as well thanks for watching see you later