 Doctor, Doctor, Doctor, Doctor, Doctor, Doctor, I'll take questions on chemistry and physics. Yeah, Riz is here, you know, Riz is here. That's that's a landmark. That's a landmark is there. Riz is here, please. I will now speak about myself in the third person. It's wonderful to see you all. I've missed you all. You all know that I've been off for three months on vacation, and it's great to be back. I missed you. Especially you, Mike. Disclaimer time. Yeah, I found it. I found it. Hey, hey, hey, it's been a month since I've been here. I actually more than that because I wasn't here in September, so I don't know how y'all got along without me. You had Christian covering for me and I bet that was a real fun experience. I would love to hear that. All right, so let's get rocket and rolling here from the little known department in Microsoft called the Multitenant Madness folks. Now you'll be able to join meetings anonymously from your team's desktop app across clouds. OK, so if you know how to do the anonymous thing now where if you have multiple multiple tenants, which everybody on this call does, and I'm sure a lot of other people do, but it's really kind of a pain. You know the Multitenant thing with teams and if you are only given permissions to a team as a specific tenant, when you when you log into teams, it logs you in automatically on different tenant, but it's really kind of a team and you have to log out with teams. It's kind of a nightmare. The only way around that previously was to do it in a browser you can put whatever name you want in there. You know, I could put that I am Doctor Neil Hutch. Again, they would believe me. You know, I would say I'm Neil. Trust me, I'm Neil. I know it all. I know it all. But now they're going to allow this within the app, right? So if you want to do that, you can actually just join a meeting anonymously and you can do it across clouds. So that's kind of cool. You know, of course, they're only rolling it rolling it out to GCC and DOD first. Again, whoever decides these rollout plans. Really gotta think this thing through folks, but you know that it's GCC and DOD and then finally they'll get down to you know down to the regular folks, you know us plain old folk. Cool. Alright, so one of the questions that's most frequently asked at Microsoft so they created their own department is have you rebooted your app? Department and the reason is because now they're going to allow. Being able to restart a teams live event. So if you ever had it been in a teams live event where like the producer mistakenly ends the event. And everybody gets kicked off. Well now they can restart the event. They you know, because we've tried to restart an event before we come up and say this meeting is no longer valid because the meeting ended. Now you can restart the event after it's already started. After you've ended it, you know you could never do that. So you'll be able to restart it if it's accidentally ended or if there's a connection issued during the event. Yeah, well, I wanted to go that route, but you know they're really passionate about using the term reboot at Microsoft. So yeah, reboot was the thing I had to go with there. That came directly from legal, by the way. So we had. Reboot and rebrand. Exactly. Okay, moving on. When is too much information too much information? You'll love this for the SharePoint folks updated the SharePoint collapsible sections. So now you can actually create collapsible sections of information inside of a SharePoint site. And the reason why I said this is like too much information is because the whole reason they're reasoning behind doing this is so they could create density in the information that's put onto a SharePoint site. So it was all around rich information, dense SharePoint pages. Just volumes and volumes and volumes for information on a SharePoint site, I guess. You can, but think of that. I don't know if anybody's experiences, but think of the navigation headaches because if you want to expand something, you expand it and it expands like three scroll screens. Then you have to try and find out where you are at to go back. I don't know. To me, it just seems like, yeah, it's cool, but I think it's going to cause some confusion. It is. It is. It's an opportunity. And what I hear are people calling, say, my content's missing. Click the little plus sign. Right? Isn't it read more? Read more. I'm just happy that Mike stopped saying dense because it's afternoon here and I'm getting hungry and every time he said that, it was just throwing me off and then we were tangent. Oh, Riz, I missed you. So I'm going to take another one here. They actually created a group of people at Microsoft that have the name of Make Your Scribbles Say Cheese. And the reason why they did that is because now within Teams, you can launch content from a camera. You can actually point the camera at a whiteboard and if a person is in the view with the whiteboard, Teams will automatically take the whiteboard image, center it, and zoom it into the full frame of the team's presentation. And they'll do the same thing with documents as well. So you can point your camera at a document and it'll do the same thing. You guys are shaking your heads like you already knew this. Is this, this is new to me. Am I behind on this? Oh, see, I, I don't follow Teams. You know, I'm sorry. You guys, yeah, you guys are way ahead of me. Does it use the office lens, started in office lens that would like correct the skew of the, you know, if it's not quite square and straight, does it do that? I have no idea how it works to tell you the truth. There's no, there's no, there's no information from the, from the, you know, the blurb that says this is how it all works in the background. But the thing I'm trying to digest here is how does it take a whiteboard that's sitting over here that I'm standing next to and I'm pointing at things? If that whiteboard goes into center view in the presentation, what if I'm still pointing at my things? Do my hand just go into the shot there? Is that, how does that work? Disconnected appendages, just randomly. I could just see this being a very comedic during some Teams meetings, you know, just to see what happens. Okay, so now we're going to talk about the C-Short. Susie sells seashells out to the C-Short. Okay, so it's, you can hear the ocean in the cloud. That's the department name. So Azure Cloud Shell will now be available in the Teams admin center. So if you're not familiar, this is one of my favorites because of course I'm an Azure guy and everybody else on this call are Office folks. So, but from an Azure perspective, having the Azure Cloud Shell is really kind of huge and they're starting to integrate it into more of the Microsoft products. I know that on the Office roadmap, they do have the, on the roadmap to integrate the shell inside of the Office tools as well. So everywhere you go now, since all of the back end linked to Azure Active Directory or Azure, you know, services in the back end, you'll be able to open up the Cloud Shell, which for those of you who don't know, Cloud Shell is like a command line interface into Azure. It allows you to run PowerShell or Bash commands, Bash being Linux derivative, being able to run those commands directly against the Azure back end. So from an administrator standpoint, if you got a, something can't be done in the UI, but it has to be done in PowerShell or it has to be done in, in Azure CLI, open up that Cloud Shell, knock it out and then close the shell and you've made that change on the back end. No need to open up the Azure portal and go through all that break and roll. Excellent. And by the way, so thanks for Don for pointing it out, but hopefully my audio is now working. Right before we started the show and I had problems with the camera, there was a Stream Labs update. Again, I'm on there playing with it last night, no problems. This morning there was an update and what it did as it has done in the past is it went and removed all of my audio and video settings. So it updated. You can act out of those updates, you know. No, no I couldn't. It forced me by, by open, to open it, it forced me to update. So, you know, hopefully now, yeah, Don thanks for pointing that out. So, you know, now, now things are back. So I went in and tried to find all of, I went in to try to make those corrections. I was able to fix the video. Audio should be working now. So now you all heard me still and the system, it all comes through, but what was missing was my mic. Well, and we really didn't notice because we just kind of blocked you out, but that's all right. It just makes for an awesome recording to have the host not heard. Christian, you're on mute. All right, sorry, Mike, sorry to interrupt. Yeah. No, that's all right. That's all right. I'm unlimited time, as you know, Christian limits me on what I can say and how much I can say. So I only have a couple things left. The first one is about four of my eyes only. Private drafts will now be available in SharePoint pages and news. Sherry, that's never been available before. I thought you could do a draft, but now you can do private drafts. There's a setting on the, it's in one of the advanced settings on the library that of who can see the drafts when you set up the versioning, but as long as somebody can author in that document or in that library, then they can see the drafts of the pages. And now it's saying that it provides you the ability to create private drafts for pages and news posts and visible only to the page author. Well, and you can do that before if you broke the permissions and change it on that actual page. So that, I mean, it took a, and then you'd have to remove that after it was ready. So that actually kind of helps. Okay, cool. Well, that's rolling out. So, you know, they say it should be done by the end of October. It's like, don't touch my stuff. All right, one more news item, and then I've got something else I want to talk about, but this is why we cannot have nice things besides, you know, the things that Christian does, we can't have nice things anymore, because, you know, some of the things he says and some of the people he pisses off, but that's the way it is. It's mainly just Sean and Riz that I piss off, but yeah. But I do want to bring this up, because this is something that really kind of, I mean, this upset a lot of people in the community, the loss of user voice. Okay, so we all know the loss of user voice. It's had a huge impact. And from the community standpoint and finding out that, you know, there's a lot of things that went on the back end, when happened on the back end is why user voice went away. You know, some has been rumors, some has been, you know, some things that have been said by Microsoft and non-Microsoft folks. But anyways, now they're starting to introduce the feedback portal. So you know how you can get feedback inside of apps? Now they're saying you can go to a portal and you can see the feedback from users who decide to make their feedback non-anonymous or anonymous. But the thing about it is that this seems to be the replacement. Now I don't know if anybody can correct me on this, because they haven't really come up with any statement about what is happening after user voice. This is all I can find. This is all I've heard of a mechanism where customers can actually give feedback about products and have the ability to have the community actually chime in on them rather than just in, you know, individual statements by one person and not like upvoted and things like that. Anybody heard about anything else? No, what I would say is that it's been brought up in a number of like MVP calls, for example. And a lot of Microsoft people are asking the same questions that the community members are. But one of the answers that I heard was, well, you can go and provide these kinds of suggestions and have this kind of discussion out on tech communities. Like, no, it's not the same thing. No, that's not the same thing. No, not by a long shot, because you don't even have Microsoft people that watch tech community. Neil does. So there's one. Yeah, yeah, there's one. I think we get corrected, Dr. We apologize. But I think that it really was detrimental to take that away, to make that change without having something and not only that, but all of the data that was stored in user boards, you know, will that ever come to light again? Because there was a lot of information and a lot of issues that were stored in there. So I don't know. To me, that's just a little disconcerting with how that is handled and what the future might be. No, Microsoft Stream, they have another platform that they're using. It was announced I kind of got a back door and I'm going to have to see if I can find it. So and one of the product teams independently is using something different. See that that's wrong, though. That's that's like that's like the product teams that use still use Yammer, you know, and instead of teams, they've got all these product teams that moved over to teams. Yes, we know from an MVP standpoint in an RD standpoint, we communicate with product managers and stuff. We used to be all in Yammer. Now they've moved over to teams, but we still have this pocket of teams that will not give up Yammer for some reason. And then that just causes confusion. It just to me that it's unnecessary. Yeah. Okay. So moving down with the last one is the Department of Mess with the best die like the rest. Okay. Who gets a movie quote? What movie is from? Oh, come on. Really? I have to say I've heard it, but I can't up top my head remember what it was from. Zero Cool. It's not. What is it? It's like one of my Seinfeld jokes just falls flat in a class. It's like, who are you people? Is it is it a Nicholas Cage quote? No, I'm not. Oh my God. Zero Cool from Hackers. Ruby Hackers said that was his slogan. Mess with the best die with like the rest. Okay. Man. Yeah, I've heard it, but I don't know. Honestly, I've never seen the movie. Oh, you're not a geek. All right. I think I was sick the day that I was in theaters. I'm sorry. I was doing my hair. Yeah, it was made in 1989. I think 1990. Anyway. Okay. So if they don't know, Microsoft actually stopped the hack last week. Of Azure customers. And it was the second largest denial of service attack that distributed denial of service attack ever recorded. And it was actually 2.3 terabit attack. Okay. Which if you think about it, a 2.3 terabit attack is you are receiving requests of something like literally 10 million requests a second. Okay. It was spread across 70,000 machines across the world that were all into this attack focusing on Azure. And they actually had three sequences of it. They had one at 2.3 terabit. They had one at one terabit and they had one at 0.5 terabit. And it was 140% higher than the one terabyte attack that had previously happened on AWS. Okay. In 2020. But what I found interesting about this is that Microsoft first, they stopped the attack before. So it was proactive. Right. They stopped it, which was really cool. But they also talked about this Russian attack that I had never heard about. But last month, the Russian Internet giant named Yandex. I guess Yandex is like the Internet in Russia. Anyways, they were part of the record-breaking DDoS attack by a botnet called Maris. And I'm probably not pronouncing that right, but it looks French. So maybe Riz knows. M-E-R-I-S. But it went against their infrastructure and millions of HTTP requests before hitting a peak of 21.8 million requests per second. Can you imagine? 21.8 million per second. I mean, our MVP summit and our Ignite and everything else can't even handle a couple thousand people connecting to it where you got 21.8 million. And, you know, it basically shut it down. I mean, it just, it folded like a, you know, it folded like a wall of bricks, man. But I just thought that was incredible that somebody could facilitate that size of attack. You know, if you ever go charging for Ingress, too, I was like, usher. Yeah. Yeah. I said, I, you know, we've talked about this before, where like I am amazed going and looking at like my WordPress site and I, you know, host on Azure and going in there and looking at what's like identified from what Microsoft says, hey, the number of attacks and what's been cleaned up. It's amazing to look at that. You know, like one who is so bored in their life that they want to attack my lowly blog, you know, kind of thing. But it's all, it's all bots. Right. It's all distributed bots, you know, that's why it's not for Christian though. For Christian, there are people who sit there and go to his site in their basements, sit there in their basements, you know, I recognize I, I embrace their hatred and I turn it back into love. So yeah, that's all right. All right. So I, I gotta rest here because I've got one last thing. Yeah. If you didn't know Ignite's going to happen this fall. Yeah. I know you were going to your wife. Ignite is happening this fall. If you haven't signed up to attend to it, you know, feel free to do that. I gotta say that the session catalog came out today. If you didn't know that, so you can go out and take a look at the sessions that are available. But I will tell you, I have never seen an Ignite like this before. They could have just called this Inspire 2.0 because there is zero technical content at Ignite this fall. Zero. I mean, everything is like 50,000 foot level. So is my, where's the waffle actually make my hashtag of where's the waffle actually making any kind of impact because there has been zero productivity content in any of the Ignite since they've not been in person anymore. Yeah. Sure. So yeah. It's, well, if you look at a lot of that content, you know, that kind of stuff, Sherry, how you use it in productivity focus, it was largely community based. So when you cut out the majority of community speakers, they're not going to have that kind of content. That's where a lot of the, I mean, that's why, if you look at the phenomenon of like the SharePoint Saturday movement, so much of it was about, it's like, because you've got content of like, here's how you install it. Here's how you support it. Here's the tools, the guidance on how to do the things. And then you have the real life scenarios. You have the productivity hacks around the solutions and real world solutions. That's what you get from the community. So when you have this model, it's difficult to, one, keep people interested in content, a multi-day online conference. And so they go higher level. They let you then go at kind of your own speed to dig into if there is technical content, it's not presented, it's in the resources that are provided. Right. And then you don't have the community voices. In the Expo Center, they had an, they dedicated a whole section with kiosk for every single product. I have all the t-shirts, right? From going to those and asking good questions. But shameless plug, I'm actually inspired right now. I'm creating a series of courses of Microsoft 365 in the real world. And I finished my first one last night of creating SharePoint calendars, but I've got a whole bunch of them actually. The questions today, I'm like. It's going to be a popular one. I'm doing a whole course on this because, you know, yeah, you can teach people click steps, but it doesn't teach them how to fix their problem in the real world, right? This is, you know, anyway. Well, and I'll tell you a lot of the keywords, if you look through, I mean, I just searched on Azure. And of course everything I saw was, you know, had the first word was, optimize or envision or, you know, enable. And I'm like, these are not technical. The first word tells me that it's not technical. And then I look for even more technical stuff. I was looking for PowerShell. Zero results for PowerShell. Not even, nobody even put it in the description of their session. It doesn't mean show up as a keyword. It's, you're saying that in like, I just brought it up session calendar. The very first word in every single one of them is empower, innovate, imagine. There's no accelerate. There's no like, get over it. No. And I mean, maybe it's because they want everybody to go to, you know, the dev interventions and 365 conferences happening in Vegas in the beginning of December. Which by the way, for the viewers, if you'd like to meet us in person, you of us will be there. And we even thought about doing one of our shows from there, Christian, which would be kind of cool. But hey, you know, that's up to the man. That's up to him. And, but I'm really, I get it back to the night. I'm just, I'm really sad that, you know, a lot of the technical content is gone. It's not there anymore. I wouldn't be too tough on them this time around. I think that they're really, you know, I hate to use the post COVID era speech. But I think they're trying to identify who their end users are going to be and who is going to view this stuff. Remember, it's all online. So you lose a lot of the capability to talk to a technical audience when you're doing online stuff. A lot of companies that I've been speaking to have already made their own arrangements to get the technical content they need for their staff, for their people. And if you're looking at going to an inspire or ignite type of conference, then you are generally speaking going to be looking at a very different audience. And that also allows them to get more, you know, generic widespread empowerment types of conversations going with more senior level business users. And less people at a technical level because we, there's lots of people that are servicing that niche. There's, you know, Mo with Ignite. They did that a couple years in a row in Orlando. They had, like Michelle Obama was a keynote for that. And a lot of the inspirational kind of big thinking, ideas around that, but Ignite and formally TechEd was supposed to be IT Pro, all about the IT Pro. And so you had, you know, you had some 101 content. It wasn't really there for end users per se, but it was like two to two to 400 level content. And then you had build, which was supposed to be like the three and 400 level, you know, technical deep dives, like I never went to build. I've still never gone to build. I mean, I've done the online, but I don't count that. It's like when you fly into a city, I don't count having visited a city if I never leave the airport or a country if I just fly into the airport. I have to sleep. My number is way down. I know, but I don't count that. I have to sleep or eat there. If you don't get out of the airport, you've not visited the country. You're in international water still, it doesn't count. But, you know, so, you know, so build for the time. If you're looking for that type of feedback, Mike, no problem, it can help you out. Oh, yeah. No, he'll hear it. Yeah, for sure. No, thank you so much for that, Mike. Always great. And of course, as I always say, there's so much more that is available. So many other announcements through the message center updates, but none of them are important because if they were important, Mike would have included it within this segment. So there's absolutely nothing else that you need to go take a look at within message center updates. So just save you some time right there. Well, that's great. Well, that's a couple of questions. But again, if you're watching the live stream, if you have a question, type it into the chat, we'll try to get to it. So let's start off with Molly, number one. Hi, everyone. I'm wondering if you can put a time on a team's meeting for when people can join. For example, the meeting starts at six, but people will only be able to enter the meeting at 5.45. Hopefully she's not talking about AM. Then people's entering say 5.30 or 5. I hope this makes sense. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks. So can you put a date on it? All you can do is turn on the lobby and let them in at 6.45, 5.45. That's it. There's no like, I can join any meeting any time and sit there all by myself. Likewise. Yeah. Well, the other thing you can do is... The lobby only applies to externals. Sorry? The lobby only applies to guests. Yeah. The lobby only applies to guests. You're found out, Neil. My head says a mess. I'm sorry. That's better. Does lobby only apply to guests or everyone? If you turn that on, that's a good question. So I thought it was for everyone but the organizer. If you turn that on. I'm not entirely sure about that because there have been a number of meetings that I've been to being a guest member of the Microsoft talent. There have been a number of meetings I've been to where I actually wind up because my meeting announcements were set for 15 minutes earlier where I actually start the meeting and then after I've started it, I'm sitting there letting people in from the lobby. So I... There is a setting. There is a setting for who can bypass the lobby. Yes, there is. That's an admin panel. So I mean, one other thing that you can do is in the description of the notes for the meeting, you're going to also put an agenda and you can include, hey, we're going to let people in 15 minutes beforehand. But yeah, I mean, if it's a problem that people are trying to log in early and not seeing anybody there until five minutes before then dropping back out, that's like bad on them. Like the meeting doesn't start until six. Why are you complaining that no one's here and letting you in? But yeah, that's what I would do, lobby. All right, question two. Puneet says, is there any way to mask the output from Azure DevOps pipeline? I want to hide the storage account keys to be shown in the logs of my Azure DevOps pipeline if a developer wants to extract it and use it. My Azure DevOps has contributor privileges at the RG level that I cannot change. I can only make changes at Azure DevOps level. Yeah, so the only way to do that is to put those keys into a vault, into secrets. I don't know of any other way. Neil, maybe you do. You look like you might. No. No, DevOps is alien to me. Yeah, because the flow inside of DevOps, yeah, either it's going to be exposed or you'd have to call it from a vault. That's the only way to do it right now with DevOps. And I know there's documentation from Microsoft that have to find it on how to store the keys, the storage keys, our app keys, or whatever keys you want in a vault and then call it from the DevOps flow. I'll see if I can hunt that down. Have any of you seen, are people using organizations that are using Azure DevOps? Are they using that as a collaboration platform in addition to, are they using it in other non-intended ways? That is a collaboration platform. I know, but are they, is it displacing teams? No, no, no, I mean, this is my experience. I say it's a collaboration platform, but it's really just a code collaboration platform. Right, right. So the only thing that's really talked about there is changes in code, test results, things like that. I mean, the other conversations, those are distinct individual, specific, not even conversations, but more like statements, whereas conversations and discussions happen on the other. The reason I ask is because like going back, way back using Clearcase and from Rational and was purchased by IBM, that was actually how I kind of found my way. We didn't call it DevOps back then, the category of tooling, but source code management and the conversations, the things that were attached and the collaboration, that was actually my entry point into collaboration software. That's why I'm asking, are people going, because you can build and extend and do other things. You can. Yeah, you can. I mean, it's kind of like, I don't know if anybody's using Jira, you know, at Lassen Jira, but it's kind of the same thing. I mean, you're basically looking through, I mean, it's not something like it's a conversation flow. Okay, there's no real conversation flow. You have to actually look through specific issues and look through things in order to find information. So as a basic, yeah, I mean, if you just wanted to understand how something works or how some code works or how a distribution works or a deployment, yeah. But if you actually want some kind of message threading, no. Right. Something else to point out. So we've got Don Kirkham that's commenting on Facebook here. I always like when we ask a question out there and Don says, you can put keys in YAML file, but that is bad. So that's what you want to do is float bad ideas, bad advice out there. Like, well, you can do this bad thing. So thank you, Don, for that, for... Yeah, no, that's why I didn't mention it. That's right. That's security by obscurity. That's called contributing to the delinquency. That's the part that you'd want to have that inner voice, those thoughts. Yeah, so... So, okay, Christian, Don and I are going axe throwing at the weekend. I'll make sure it's timely axe on the right place. Yeah. Don, why don't you go collect the thrown axes? Oh, I have this extra one. All right, question number three from Becky. I'm having trouble with the chat function whilst in a meeting. The guests in the group can't see the chat. This happened to me when I was a guest in a recent meeting as well. Why is this happening? This is actually a fairly common problem and other things within talking about teams. Like sometimes I'll go in as the creator of a meeting. We've run to this where I go up into the ellipses, the dot, dot, dot up there to hit record. And record is grayed out. Or another time is the option to record is missing. And from a meeting I created on my tenet that I hosted that I started, like all of those factors. I'm not logged in through another profile, all those different things. What I've come to understand about this and the same issue with the chat. So one problem is that if there is a teams update that's happening and it's partially deployed, that can cause problems. And so that is a just try turning it off and on again. Coming back an hour later and it's there again. Then you have the issue of, well, I'm joined a meeting but not from my regular profile. I'm joining a meeting within another tenet where I may not have those capabilities. You got that turn on, turn off thing from that department at Microsoft, that reboot department. Well, as we've pointed out, they're different departments but I feel like they could merge at some point in the future. Lately I find that problem when I switch tenets. Just when you switch between? If I need a business tenet and then I switch over to the Microsoft guest tenet, I won't have a chat. What I need to do then is just close and restart teams and then I've got the chat. I will not have a chat if I stay in the home tenet and then attend a meeting in the Microsoft guest tenet. I won't have a chat at all that way. The only way you can do it is you've got to be in the tenet and if they don't have it, stop and restart. That seems to be the thing that's fixing for me these days. But even with the start and stop, like I was having this problem last week where the chat was missing and these were internal conversations and meetings. But also what happened is that I was asking questions to people and then not getting a response and hours later, I went and switched tenets, checked on something, came back and suddenly it unlocked and opened up all of these chats. People had responded back in real time to my questions but I didn't see them until hours later. What I found is that the desktop application of Teams was having problems. One of the things that I did is I went and logged into the browser version of that and then the chat appeared. If you're having problems with the desktop app, first place I would start with is open up Teams within the browser, see if the problem still exists. Usually it will not exist in the browser. Take some of the suggestion. That's almost always first line of defense and it's never failed me. I'll often use my mobile as a companion app, companion device as well alongside. If you've got like video, go in and chat and people sharing stuff, I find the mobile app is a great kind of side option. I do the same thing as well. It's funny now that I realize I have to have my mobile phone because of the multi-factor authentication with so many using authenticator with so many different apps and switching between tenants, it's constantly right there. But I've always been a fan of the Teams app because from that multi-tenant problem that Microsoft has, it's been resolved in the mobile app. And I've jokingly said I should have a mobile emulator up with a window with the Teams app on my desktop all the time because they've got it solved. Oh my gosh, Christian, you just called out my tip Tuesday from last week because I found the Windows Phone app. It's you install it in Windows and it lets you control your and see your phone, pull pictures. People send me links, they text me links and then I have to figure out how to get them from my text. I can work with my phone as another window on the screen and all those MFA pop-ups, I don't even have to, my phone could be in another room, but as long as it's Bluetooth, it works. That's an awesome tip, you got to share that. I want to go and do that. Yeah, please reshash, that sounds great. Yeah, that's awesome. You can also, for anyone interested, you can also use these other devices, they run under the code name of Mac and there's a lot of that integration there too. So I've got, Mike's laughing when he's muted. I have all that happening on, you know, my little iPhone here and my MacBook Pro, but anyway, that's an aside for another, I might be in the wrong meeting for that conversation. I don't understand anything that you said, but I'm, after you said Mac, I don't understand. I know it was, it must be, it's part of the translations that's lost with that whole Canadian, you know, the dialect and it's just, it's, yeah. You was talking in French, right? It's okay. It was all Greek to me, yeah. Well, excellent. Yeah, sure, definitely share the link out and we'll make sure that it's in the blog as well. Well, and it's great too, for those of us that do demos and want to show mobile because you can now record, you know, your screen from your computer and display it. It's, I'm just in love, I have to tell you. That's awesome. All right, question number four, Zakira says, as a Microsoft Azure partner, what benefits can we get? As a partner, can we get free Azure labs for hands-on practical on different services? If yes, please share useful links. So what do you get as a partner? It depends. It depends on what level of partner you are. I mean, you know, you know this Christian as well as I do. Riz, you probably know this as well. Sherry, I don't know how you might, but it's, it all depends on what level. If you're just NPN, there's no Azure partner. I mean, there is a cloud competency that you can gain, but there's really no Azure partnership. There's a silver, there's a gold, and there's NPN. And NPN, you get, I think it's 100 hours of Azure credits. Or 150? It's $100. $100? Oh yeah, not 100 hours. $100, you're right, $100, I'm sorry. And then you get, you know, the only other thing, you get a couple other things, but you'd have to then buy like action pack to get actual software. But you don't get any specifics just for Azure. I mean, you don't, you don't get that. If you became a cloud competency partner, then I think you actually get Azure specific, what they call sponsorship at that point, where you do get a dollar, a set dollar amount based on your level. Maybe I don't know, I'm not, I haven't done that. Maybe you all have a better explanation than I do on that. Yeah, working in the Azure PG, there's a couple of new firms' competencies like the Azure Expert Migration, Certified Migration Partner. I don't know whether they get any specific benefits from that other than access to specific programs within the Azure product group, such as where we can do, you know, very high volume migrations with a specific set of partners, but I don't think it gives them anything free, like free labs and that. So when they talk about hands on labs, I mean, hands on lab right now are free to everybody, right? You can go to hands on labs and anybody can use the hands on labs. But if you want to use like dev test labs, which is part of the Azure infrastructure, actually, you know, dev test labs is a service and you could use your free credits to run dev test labs. But, you know, you only get, you know, $100 in free credits every month, so you have to be careful what you use it for. But if you are an actual Azure partner, then you should have a partner rep that you can ask these questions to number one. But number two, if you don't know this information, then you're probably not the person that's actually holding the keys to the, you know, to the partnership. You need to talk to that person because it's like having a, you know, a enterprise, an EA, or they still call it EA's. I'm not even sure if they're doing it. Yeah, there is an EA. But all partners should have a PDM, which is a partner development manager. Okay. They're core accounting. That's the person they need to speak to. Okay, so it's like having an EA. Facilitate. Yeah. Facilitate. Free stuff as well. And then. They've changed that whole structure, though, and you, in order to be a managed partner, I'm part of the IAMCP, the International Association of Microsoft Channel Partners. And we actually had a speaker come in last this last month because there's so much confusion. You have to, in order to be a managed partner, you have to meet all these qualifications. And they're like, well, there's a whole bunch of us out there that still need support, but we're not meeting the qualifications that they now have. So. Yeah. Well, then. Because you're a partner, you have help. Well, there's different, again, there's different levels of partner, the PDM. So like I talk with my PDM almost every day because I manage that relationship for AppPoint. And you're right. Like Neil said, it's, it really depends on the type of partner and what resources are available. There's, you know, like with us, if we had a unique, because it very much like, how can we better work together? And there are so many different, you know, options that are out there. We're also a huge consumer of Azure. And so we work, you know, where our headquarters are in New Jersey. And so we work with the Northeast group, Microsoft Group, that we're actually a customer of that group. And they're like, what do you want? Here are the resources that we have. Here's trainings. Here are different things that we can do to align our product roadmaps. But again, we're a huge ISV. So that's why we have that level of high touch and that deep relationship. For somebody that is like, at my former company, CollabTalk, I was a, you know, an independent was just me. I had some part-time people. And so I was a registered partner. So I got like, you know, what everybody gets, a CSP, an individual, you know, a sole contributor, consultant and independent can go and get that $100 credit. There's other resources. There used to be the programs. There's different things happening all the time. Like Microsoft for startups was different. I mean, some of the, like the old programs that were startup. DreamSpark. You have DreamSpark? Yeah, DreamSpark. And a number of different programs that are out there. So it really just depends on what you're looking to go and do. And there's stuff that's free. Hands-on lab stuff is free. The demo.Microsoft resources that are out there. So you can go build and configure and play with any of the tools. So, and a lot of them, depending on what you're doing, especially if you're concerned is that you have a demo environment and you're doing the free demo.Microsoft.com. You're building something out. You're working with a customer. And I don't know how long that stays. Is it 30, 60, 90 days, something like that for those demos? But it ends. It goes down too. Do you have to like sign your life away saying they'll kick you out if you're using it for the wrong reason? So you can't use it for a PFC, like a proof of concept or, you know, and then Shopee, you can't use it for that anymore. But you, right. So depending again, that's the, there's so much that you can shuffle under that classification of it depends. But there are things that are out there. But my point was that, they've made it easy for you to go out there. It may not be a proof of concept for a customer, but as you're experimenting with something, but then it's really inexpensive then to go and extend that, everything that you built within that demo environment, and then, you know, rent that space and continue using that environment, and then go do your proof of concept. Right. Well, and I think it's important to note that a real license can be from 12 to 25 bucks a month where everything is there. That's minimal compared to creating, you know, having those demo environments are great if you need something that already has content populated. But if you really wanted to test stuff, you, it's not that expensive. It's not like you have to spend thousands of dollars to spend out of a platform. It's 25 bucks a month, you know. And yeah, so if you're really a consultant, then that shouldn't be anything you sneeze at personally. But yeah. And it's perpetual at that point, Sherry, right? You don't need to be concerned with a 90-day deletion or there's, I think, some demos you can get for a year, but that stat is your maximum limit. Yeah. And you can only get so many, like one of them is a year, I think three of them are 90 days. And yeah, you know, and you get whatever URL you want, not the M365-5678, whatever, to get a real URL. Yeah, I don't think that M365-678 is a real thing, Sherry, but... That's the way it is. That's the way, yeah, that's the way that they vision. That's something to do with. Yeah. All right. All right. Question number five. Rajesh asks, Hi, can we store heavy zip file of size more than 50 gigabytes in Azure Blob Storage and search zip file later? Sure, you could. You're going to pay like you wouldn't believe for that. Number one, you're talking about Blob Storage, but it depends on what tier you put it in. You put it in hot storage, cold storage, you know, or archive storage. So obviously... Why is that? Why archive storage? Hot storage, cold storage, you have warm storage. Come on, in between. No, not with Microsoft. But there are limitations on the storage and how and when you can access it. So if you put something in cold storage, you can access it before 120 days is up, but if you access it before 120 days is up, you pay a premium price to access that data. So, you know, and Neil could probably talk about this more than I can. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah, the tiering against, you've got to take into consideration, right? Hot storage, while it might sound like that should be more expensive, as Mike says, the cold storage can be, and even archive storage, which takes time to retrieve, you know, the actual net cost can actually be higher. You know, cold storage in particular. For the specific question here, you know, a zip file of 50 gig, can you store it? Yes, to answer that question, no problem. Can you index it and search it? Depends on your tool choice. Azure Search can do that. However, the contents of the zip file start to become questionable. I wouldn't do it, though. No, I wouldn't do it. I'm with you, Mike. I'm calling for Mike. Do I need to? This is like the dawn all over again. There's like, do we want to say out there is like, you could do this, but don't do it. Don't ever do it. Then why bring it up? Just say no. Because it's possible. Okay, yeah, yeah. You know, and Microsoft wants you to do it because you're going to be paying a premium price for that egress. You're going to be, you know, indexing that data is all data that's being egressed. So, you know, unless you do it all inside of Azure, which you could do, yeah, you could use Azure files. It all depends on the context. Yeah, I would actually. Azure Search can index it. SharePoint can index it. There's connectors from partners that can provide connection. There's a claim to provide connectors for Office 365, but I've never seen that in action. I would actually use that. I would actually use Azure files. I mean, that's another thing I would look into is using Azure files because it doesn't have to go into blob storage. You know, it can go into straight into file storage, a file level storage, into a container, and then, you know, it's much quicker, much faster to access. And you don't get hit with egress costs that much. You can look at the zip file directly from your workstation and be connected to Azure files as an extension of like your home direction. So, I would look into that for a situation like this. Okay, let's see question number six. Mary says, we are coming over from years-long usage of Yammer-free to Business Basic. I saw that 365 has an all-company group, but do not see this group in Teams. I expected it to be like all network in Yammer, but apparently not. Do I need to create a new group for all of our users to be in? So, an organization-wide Teams group. Yes. Yes, you do. It's not automatic, and I am very glad you're getting away from Yammer. That's all I'll say about that. Yeah, I don't know why you're anti-Yammer. Actually, I use it every day. Not a fan. It's a, I think it is, for the social network side of it, and to try and do all the things which are Yammer-centric, the community-centric, over inside of Teams is a huge mistake. So, I see it as an apples versus oranges. But, yeah. But, so if you're trying to, I don't know if Mary is trying to, in the organization, keep things simple and move to one tool, or if you're going to have them side-by-side, because, honestly, Yammer downloads, the number of Yammer implementations is on the rise. Like, it's one of the fastest-growing areas in Microsoft 365 right now. And, I believe that one of the key reasons for that is with the integrations that they finally came out with, to make it more seamless across Teams and Outlook. And, it's, so it just, it makes sense it fits much better now with those core integrations in place. But, I believe, like I've not gone and done it, but I believe for the organization-wide, isn't it PowerShell, so you could go take an existing team, and to make that modifies to the admin, has to go in and do that via PowerShell. I'm not sure what the process is, to make it organization-wide if you take an existing. But, I don't think it's through the regular admin controls. I think it's PowerShell. Nobody's done it either. So, it's one of those things that I've, I remember reading about, but I've not done it. But, yeah, so, anyway, yeah, I would argue, I am of the religious belief that Teams is for project-centric, and it does not work well when you have everyone in the company looking at a team. Not to say that they're, people shouldn't have access, but the reality is where Teams works the best is where the scope of the team is around those, the project or the product or the initiative. That's where it's most effective. And where Yammer is meant to be broad communities, communities of interest. And it's just a very different thing than what Teams is. Thank you. We have a, because here's my thing on everybody being in the team. Then you, people are confused and they get frustrated by all the notifications. And if all the communications around the entire organization are coming out of Teams and blowing up their activity, they're going to desensitize to that. Where Yammer, that's what it's for, right? You're not going to collaborate on a document across 500 people. Right, right, thank you. But it's all, it's the human side. Not to say that Teams is inhuman, quoted Christian Buckley. No, the human side of us getting together, like we just launched, there was a conversation I was having with somebody within our operations or engineering department. There was a few of us that were in there talking about it. I said, you know, I've heard about some other people within our company who are musicians. You know, we should have a community for people that make music within the company. And we can kind of share different things that we've done and are doing. And so we launched a Yammer community around that and have a couple dozen people that went and joined and we're sharing links and seeing what other people are doing. And, you know, and so that's just a great community building, a way to get to know people within the organization. That's a great example, a great use case of how Yammer works. And then we do other things like we have our monthly, all hands meetings, the entire company that's in there, and they broadcast live. And so do the things where the executives get in there and share, well, they do that on a quarterly basis, but we have other monthly meetings. And then you see all of the conversations, the questions that are asked, you know, right there from the last two quarterly updates, company-wide updates, and it becomes a way that you can go and search. What were we talking about last time when we announced this? How does that compare with what we're doing now and having that historical record? And again, these are open communities that people can go and discover that content and find it and provide that expertise. Again, very different from the scenarios where teams works well. So, all right, I will get off my soapbox on that one. So, and Mike muted. He realized his mistake right away. Oh, yeah. Never argued with Christian. You won't win. If I, that would be funny if I could like, you know, suddenly disconnect people. I guess I could hear teams, but no, I wouldn't do that. All right, let's see, Kenneth, number seven. Yeah, blacklisted. Kenneth says we have moved a hosted exchange to hosting of Microsoft 365. Right now we have a local file server, but we do have a SharePoint, a SharePoint possibility as part of the MS 365, which sounds like a gang, but it's all right. We have around 10 shares, so file shares with different rights for people, around 50 people on the file server, but not sure I understand SharePoint correctly. Do I have to create a site for each share from the file server? Is it a team website? I can create a document site. Is that what could be the replacement of the file server? Last thing, if one person is part of five different shares, is it possible to set up in the OneDrive app on the PC? So it says, sorry, totally noob in SharePoint. So anybody want to? Sherry, Sherry, SharePoint 101. Yeah, well, it sounds what they need, like what they need is information architecture, and they used to, you know, they shouldn't just be moving everything until they know what they're moving into. It's kind of like building a house, and if you haven't built the house out yet and you move all your stuff in, then you've got to start shifting. As you're starting to build the house, you've got to move things around. So they need some help with information architecture, and I could go into an hour on what that might look like, but... I think the main message though... Team, go ahead. Well, I was just going to say file, there is not a one-to-one mapping of, okay, I have these 10 file servers, these file shares, and do I create now 10 SharePoint team sites? Like, no, that's not how it works at all. No, it is a combination of sites, document libraries. Who needs to see what, you know, are these, they really need to be retained and they're not the actual current copies. They're, you know, subject to legal retention. There's a lot of questions that need to be asked around that. Right. You know, just start moving stuff. Are you saying it depends? Yeah. Yeah. They go, it depends. It's flashing when I talk to the men. Yeah, because, yeah, with file share migrations over in, like you could, it could be that the contents of all 10 file shares belong in one SharePoint team site. And it could be that you go through that content, as Sherry said, and find half of it, you don't need to move. You want to throw out the burn pile out the backyard before you load the moving truck. And so understanding what's there, like with any migration, it starts as a business analyst activity. Go through, what do we have? What's there? Who has access? What needs to be retained? What is the, you know, the life cycle around the content that's there? How sensitive is it? How, you know, what are all the rules that we need to attribute to this content? And then, as you say, figure out the information architecture. It could be, you know, there's five different sites that we're creating. And here's the people that have access to it. Here's the life cycle around that. And the last thing that you do is actually move the content. So that's all that pre-work that's set up that architecture. And then you move the content. Yeah, not to mention cleaning up the names because you're going from a file server to the web. There's, you know, there's a whole lot to that. That's actually my next reward course. That's what I'm doing. It's like, because it, how many times do y'all get asked this? Like daily, this is a question that my clients ask me, you know, what goes where? What goes, what goes in teams? What goes in OneDrive? What goes, yeah, every day, every single day. Eric, you're being very quiet, seeing how you just, you're in recovery mode from having lived this for quite some time. Yeah, this is, this is a huge, I mean, first of all, this is not a question, in case it hasn't been made obvious yet. It's not a question that can be answered in, by any experts in five or 10 minutes. This is a big conversation that really is a, is a massive meeting around source and use and access and permissions and security and purpose and intent. Like let's not forget that just because it lives somewhere now, doesn't mean it has to live somewhere new. You need to really understand what your inventory is all about and recognize that the information that was really relevant for your business 10 years ago may not be for the next 10 years. So, I mean, I could, I could sit here and pull on Mike Nelson and talk about this for the next 20 minutes, but I don't think it's going to really benefit anybody. I just say these things so that Mike can laugh. It really does, this wonders for me. Are we looking at them? You're having such a good time over there. Eric, I'm stealing your quote. I'm typing it out right now because otherwise I'll forget. Just because it lives somewhere now does not mean it needs to live somewhere new. I'm totally stealing that. That's my attitude with kids. He's got, he's going to want royalties on that quote. Yeah, but those kids give you grand babies. Congratulations. Yeah, yeah, thank you. But it's, yeah, I say thank you. Like I had any part in any of that. I don't know. But the one thing I will just kind of point out and wrap up on this question is that, so you do have partners out there. Eric is a great example with his company. Envision IT is providing this like migration services that are out there. And so one thing is that if there's a hot mess and even if it's something that's smaller, if we're around this can benefit from some help from a consultant that has done this activity. I mean, if you have like Microsoft offers through a number of partners and Microsoft themselves through FastTrack, kind of migration as a service kind of offerings, there are tools that are out there like Microsoft has their mover tool, which works in some scenarios. Be very careful. It does not work in all scenarios. And in fact, I, so a lot of the migration work that my services team does is fixing, cleaning up after failed mover migrations. It's the most common scenario that we're seeing on the services side. So just to be aware, there's a lot of knowledge. There's a lot of expertise out there. There's a lot of help that can be provided on the information architecture governance planning side of things, as well as the actual execution of those activities if you don't have the resources to do that. Yeah, and there's a ton of questions that come up in that conversation. Sorry, I know we said we're gonna stop talking with this, but I just can't. There's a lot of sort of 101 types of things that you hear in these conversations and a lot of clients come to us and they say, okay, how should we do this? And it's like, well, it's like coming to the doctor and saying, you know, my leg hurts. And the doctor doesn't just gonna say, oh, take two of these and call me in the morning. The doctor is going to go through a whole analysis of your issue and what are you doing and what's the history and what are you eating and what are you doing with your leg that's going to create such issues? I'm trying not to tell a bad joke. It's very hard for me. And I'll tell that one offline later, but you don't get into these professional situations and just assume that someone's going to give you a quick answer. Now there are steps and practices and things that you can do along the way. Such as identifying a pilot or looking at a specific group or a specific area of documents, you know, specific section of the file server. People that really know their business that have been doing it this way for so many years, typically things like finance is a great place to start from a documentation perspective because they do things a certain way and frankly it's not going to change. So you can take their processes, do the lift and shift and move it elsewhere, take a look and see how that's going to operate for them in future. I wouldn't necessarily simply look at an organization of, and we do this all the time. We've got inventory scripts that are out online and get having what not that we do this with and we go, I'm doing this with a clamp right now where I'm literally taking them through the volume of information they have at a document level and saying, look over the past 10 years, you've got 112,000 files in this specific area and they look at it and they say, oh wow, I didn't realize there was that much. And then you look at it year by year and they've got, you know, almost the exact same volume of documents they're creating year after year after year. Well, why are you doing that? And they start to create and give you the back story. Well, HR does this and they hire and they fire and there's no real dips and things and you suddenly realize that they're cyclical and they do things the same way every year and that's why they have 100 and whatever I said, 1000 files and they're creating 12,000 a year or 12,000 a year, 12,000 a year. Okay, well, why are you doing all that? You know, it's having real conversations and identifying what the business is actually doing which is going to cause a consultant to look at that and say, okay, how can we make this more efficient? What are some of the practices that we can use and the tools that we can use to make this more efficient and maybe it's the power platform and power automate and things that will really create efficiencies for them and the conversations are pretty easy to have provided you're able to draw up a solution that makes sense. I stopped answering when they say, I want you to build me this and I started saying, what is your problem? Because I get to the end of a build of a project and realize that what their actual problem was would have been solved by something, you know, don't tell me what you want, tell me what your problem is, right? And then we fix the problem, the right solution. Yeah, because they have a preconceived thing in their head based on maybe not as much knowledge as me or one of my colleagues might have. You have to be very careful to how you deliver that question. What is your problem? Well, it's consulting. I mean, sorry to say this, but it's consulting as a three-year-old. As soon as your client tells you something, you say, why? And then they have to explain it to you. Then you say, why? And then you get it explained to you again. Then you turn to somebody else and you say, why? And it just keeps going, but it gives you an understanding of the different areas of the business that are from people and different users. And then you, as the consultant, get to try out some conclusions and make some recommendations. But that's a different conversation for another time because we're, believe it or not, almost out of time. Yeah, we're running out of time. I'm actually going to jump down to the last three questions that I was hoping that we could try and squeeze the three of these in. So we'll leave some other great ones there. And I won't be able to get to that lengthy, fake question, the telephony question. I'll leave it on there for next month. But looking at number 18, so Jerica says, does anyone know if we can share resources, so like conference rooms or an open office, for example, between two tenants? So currently have an open office, a resource that I have shared out with the user on another tenant. She can't see any events I add and I can't see any events she adds. I've already set up external sharing and established the relationship between the two. Is this possible to achieve? So Sherry, did you cover any of that in your calendar tips? No, that was like calendar overlays and creating the color codes and things. No, the only thing I can say are they federated? I mean, if those two tenants federate, then they should be able to see those, but that would be the first question that comes to mind. Anybody, I'm not a federation person. I don't do that. No, that's what it requires. Even if they're federated, will it then show like the free, busy time? It's like, will it do that with the federation of the two tenants? I think so because they're exchange calendars and then they can see them. Again, that's the more technical side, probably somebody else there. Mike's nodding his head. Yeah, you might have to individually share the resource as well, as opposed to you can provide different levels of sharing to resources like that. For example, if you look at the Microsoft, the standard free, busy access, you see in exchange, for example, you get the blue blocks and the shady blocks. That's about all you see, unless you go over and above and share excessively, share extra to see different levels. So maybe there could be a limit on what's being shared on the level of sharing, but to not see anything as in, does she even see free, busy between the two tenants? Yeah, I wouldn't imagine that you'd see any details of that only whether they're available, they're free or they're busy. Right? So yeah, I think we'd have to go and dig to find out exactly how this, I didn't know, I was interested in seeing if anybody had an experience with that. But that's a great question that we might need to do more homework on. Anyone? Anyone? Ah, anyway. So, let's go and take a look at it. Okay, so. I'm going to take it, but it's more technical than it is. Yeah, well, I wonder if there's just something out there. I'm getting feedback now, somebody's got. You are. I think that feedback was Sean raising his hand for the homework. Was that anyone else here that or was it just me? I'll, we'll have to, I do that. I heard somewhere that Sean might be interested in doing this as homework. So I'll, I'll take that note. Number 19, Marcelo says, Hello guys, I have a client where he says we can, we can connect only if using a VPN. But I think it's not possible to connect into SharePoint online using a VPN client to site. Do you know more about this subject? Can I connect to SharePoint online using a VPN? Do we have this question before? Something similar? Or maybe that was a different forum? I don't think so. The reality, you know, you can as an individual create a VPN private link to a SPF. Right? If you're one of the very large organizations and dedicated links, then you can have some element of that. For an individual, I suspect this scenario is that he's working for a client. The client has configured conditional access policies, which means that tenant can only be accessed from a specific location or IP range. So he's basically saying you need to connect with a VPN into our network, which means that when you connect to SPO, those conditional access policies are basically allowed. You're allowed access. That's what this sounds like to me. Yeah. Yeah. So I, because I have that scenario with my work laptop over here, like to connect into that, to do certain administrative activities. I have to be logged in on my company VPN to be able to access those resources. That's that exact scenario. It's common. Yeah. Common, not just for SPO, but for many things. So, but, so I use my primary workstation as my personal device, which is also on a private VPN. I cannot access those sources, those company resources with my configuration. It's not approved to get into those resources, which is again why I must use them. So in that case, those resources, which are on SharePoint, are restricted for non-company VPN access. Yep. So, yeah. So the question is, so from a, you know, a client or for, this is a client or so this is a client. Yeah. So, as a consultant connecting to that client system, so it would have to be, you know, you would have to log in via their VPN connection. You could have the multiple VPNs loaded. Well, no, I mean, all you, all you'd need is you need access to their VPN. So, right. If they, you know, they would set up a guest type connection to the VPN, which you can do. It only restricts you to go to certain networks or do certain things. And they give you the client. You know, if it's Global Protect, if it's F5, if it's Palo Alto, if it's, you know, whatever they give you, or if it's just a Windows VPN setup, and then you connect to them as a guest and then, you know, connect to whatever resources they give you access to on their network. No. You don't need, you don't need a double VPN or anything like that. It's just one single VPN connection. Right. Yeah. And disable split. Tunnel loop. Right. Also, if it's forced to go through the network, you won't have, you won't be able to get, oh, you need it forced through their network to access the system. Right. All right. And so question 20, Kamakshi says, can anyone please suggest how we can display SSRS reports on SharePoint online site? Anybody still using SSRS? Take the code behind them and recreate a Power BI and then display it. That's what I would say. I don't know. You can take the, you can take the script out of an SSRS, like the SQL statement, paste that into a Power BI statement, and it pretty much recreates support. This is a quick search online. There seems to be a few recommendations or suggestions, sorry, as opposed to recommendations on how to do it. Are you looking it up, Neil? Yeah, I'm looking for so many options though. Yeah. I loved SSRS back when that was my skill set, but Power BI is much more powerful and it agreed, obviously. So. Yeah, switch into Power BI. That would be the best way. Yeah, I've been so far away from that area, that space, for so many years now. I can't lend the other advice. I don't know about, I mean, obviously to go through, it's never helpful when the advice is, well, you should upgrade to the latest version of that. It's like so not helpful. Yeah, the references I'm finding, Christian, I'll talk about various plugins. The websites are all down, they're just gone. So I don't know. And I don't know if there's, is there like an export capability other than going and grabbing the, you know, the code, the scripting that Sherry suggested? I mean, is there an export? Is there's no, I don't think there's any just integration in between them, because I don't think it's been updated at all. None of these, none of these reports. So nothing's updated here since 2018. Yeah. So. Well, thankfully nobody suggested iFrames and Oh wait, I just said it out loud. I did it Don Kirk, I'm late. I said the quiet part out loud. I just heard Fred boys. All right, well, so I know that we're, we jumped around a little bit on the list, but we have more items to go through next week. I want to thank everybody on the panel for joining today. So just make sure that you send an email off to Sean about how disappointed you are in him in how he's prioritized his life to not join us today. But thanks everybody for joining. And once again, thanks for the questions that were asked on the community. We'll have a, I'll have a blog post up tonight with the recording, I'll timestamp all of the topics, all of the questions that were asked so you can jump to. And there were a number of resources that we've been sharing amongst ourselves. Because text on screen makes great video. I didn't pull it up on the screen, but all the links that were shared, if they're relevant, we'll share those within the blog post as well. You can go to find those out on buckleyplanet.com. Again, that should be out there before midnight tonight. I've got some other things going on today as well. But thanks so much, everybody. We'll be back next month. So what date are we back on? It's the, let's see, on November 10th, we'll be back. And so please continue to share your questions and we'll do our best to answer those in real time. And thanks, everybody, for joining. I'll drag from Cabo. All right. That's right. You're doing the Cabo event. So, yay. Thank you guys. Healed trip. Yeah, thanks, everybody. Thanks a lot. Yep. Cool. Bye-bye. And I'm looking for my music cue to be able to bring this back up, but it looks like I continue to let it run and it just kind of wore out. There we go. So, if it will start up again, where is, what is going on there? Can we talk or not talk? There we go. Yeah, we're just, we're continuing to talk, but this boy, just technical issues today, but thanks, everybody, as we fade off into oblivion.