 Now, people be wondering why the show is for real niggas. It's because we bring real niggas on this motherfucker. And you don't believe me. We got Mack Truck in this motherfucker. Niggas. We got the Michael Harrison in this motherfucker. Yeah. I'm glad you fellas could join us, man. What's new going on? Man, we just ready for the new year to start. Get back in the game, you know, knock some things out. So, like, how you feel how the boxing, how boxing is going right now, like the state of boxing, right? It's in a great place. You think so? Big year boxing, all big fights. Great place. You feel the same? Yeah, definitely for sure. Who some of the fights this year that you felt like took it up? You know what I mean? Terrence Crawford. Yeah. I think Bud is in a league of his own right now. Yeah. For the moment. Yeah, for the moment. But it's like, even to the fact, I love watching tank fights and stuff like that. But do you think it'll ever get to like the, I think heavyweights is like the fights that I enjoy watching more. It's Christmas. It's Christmas. Two years for Christmas. None of the heavyweights on the court. Yeah, they got one next month. Well, this month. On my 20s. 23rd. No heavyweights on the court. No heavyweights. Yeah. In Saudi Arabia, that's going to be crazy. Saudi Arabia. They getting it. That's the water, right? Man, they finna make it. Yeah, water, Joshua, Big Baby, the boys all that. Yeah. So out of that, who you see, what fight you rather, you waiting for? Water. Nah, nah. The boys in the real middle. I sparred both of them. So for real? How was that? It was good. Big Baby, I'm gonna fuck a big. But the boys. I bet he is. He's gonna fucking fool me around and everything. He's like 350. He's like 350. Solid. So tell me this, with the sparring, do they tell y'all like, you know, be at a 50% center forever? Nah. I mean, you kind of can feel it like, when you first come, like, you know, you once my life, like, you can tell, like, all right, he on some chairs today. Sometimes you got the motherfucker, like, you hit him with some good shit, it's the, you can feel it, trainin' like, oh yeah. So shit, that's sparring gonna turn into a real match. Yeah. Yeah, it's possible. Shit, I just sparred all the killings, so shit. I know. I just sparred a tank, I just sparred a secure hand. Nigga, talk about that. Shit. Tell him your tank story, bro. Shit. Which one you wanna go? Which one you wanna talk about first? Shit, best one, nigga. Best one. You know, I gotta go. Nah, you can tell all. Nah, I gotta go in my boy tank, so I start off with him first. Okay. I've been doing tank for a couple years. Uh huh. And I always tell him, because he the one that, like, brought me into boxing and things like that. He got me on. Shout out real nigga. Yeah, real nigga. And pretty much, I used to tell him, I'm like, y'all wanna spar you. He'd just be laughing at me like, nah, you don't wanna spar me. You see what I do. Yeah. I wanna spar you. I wanna spar you. So then one day, he's like, I ain't fucking. We go. First round, he bullshitting. He playing, right? He just smiling. I said, no, I wanna spar from real. So. So you keep asking for this shit. I'm asking, like, even when we spar, I'm like, nah, let's go for it. I ain't never seen a nigga do that. Nigga, knock me out. Nigga, stop all that bullshitting. Yeah. Yeah. Just end up, man. Pretty much, you know, we was rocking. Uh huh. You feel me? And after that, he just showed a lot of respect to me. You held your home? I don't know. Yeah, for sure. Definitely. Okay. And you know, he picked me up. Like right after that, he flew me out to Baltimore. He was like, he looked at me back to you, hopped in the car. He was like, I wanna sign you. For real? Yeah. And he was like, I want you to find out my cards. And that's what it was. My first fight was in Baltimore. He did a homecoming a couple of years ago. Uh huh. And then my second one was in Atlanta. His first time coming to Atlanta. Yeah. Hey, but you know, he probably seen like, oh, he got heart. Yeah. That's kind of well like a movie. Yeah. Nigga thought he was shooting Creed 6. No, no, fight for real. It's getting started. It's so easy. Look, if you don't have an account, what you waiting for? If you register right now for account, make a deposit. Prize pick for a match, whatever you bring up. And you make a deposit. You pick more or less on two to six player stats to win payouts of up to 25 times your entry. So if you do six for a flex pay and you get all six right, that's 25 times your money. Man, what's a bigger gift than that? So if you deposit $100, they're going to match your $100. So now if you put a hundred, do a six pick and all of them hit, that's $2,500. 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You know, so like all three of them, so you know, obviously all three of them put all the three of them are in like, you know what I'm saying, the same conversations all the time. Yeah. So what's on you sparring and working out all three of them? Who is the best out of all three? Man, like I said, everybody, all three of them good. But honestly, I don't think nobody messing with Tink. Devon did look sharp as hell the other day. He redeemed himself. Real sharp. And he is sharp. And Shakira same as well. They both sharp. But I feel like this tank got more of that dog and more of that killer instinct. Yeah. So it really come down to it. And of course he got that crack. You know, he hit you. It could be lights out, you know. But my hats off to Devon and Shakira too. You know, they box very well. But now you're just being like straight up. Tink find that shot. Yeah. It's just like a switch. It's just instantly like any moment. And nigga, you wanted that switch. And then kill that. No, no, no. None of that bullshit. Leave it with the switch. Nah, I do anko a lot, man. I just want to see what the power was really like. Yeah, yeah. See what you got. That's been my boy. Boys on the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. I just want to like, I don't know. Maybe I'm a little crazy. Besides boxing, like did y'all have, y'all grew up playing any other sports? Yeah. Football. Football. You look like you guys. Yeah, facts. Yeah. Play football. Niggas, niggas. Hell. Something, yeah. When I moved down here, that shit, it was too serious. We in middle school. Hey, we in the weak room. Like, hell nah, I'm trying to play the game. Yeah, oh nah. It was too serious. When I moved up, the motherfucker was 6'3 and 8th grade. You think that shit is serious when you was in middle school? That shit is so serious. Now, these kids be eight, nine years old. No, as soon as you hit eight. Trainin' on you. It's over. Oh yeah, see. They travelin' and shit, all kinds of shit. It was too serious. So where you had moved from? I'm born in Colorado, Denver, Colorado. Okay. So I was out there. I played football. We was sorry. We lived about three years. We only won two games. So it went on. You knew you were going to get your snack after the game? Yeah. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I was the best player on the teams. I was the best player. Yeah, so I'm one of the kids. They be like, they just mean friends and shit like here. In Atlanta, fuck that friend shit. Go out there and do something. Yeah. Or you and your mama got to find you all in another park. Yeah. Now that shit here where I am. So when you moved here, did you get in a lot of fights and shit? Yeah. It was out from Denver. All right, man. Denver is kind of like a, you know what I'm saying? It's a Caucasian state at the time. So everybody call me proper. You know what I'm saying? I'm wearing like name brand one of the things. Like when I was a little like 7th, 6th grade, 8th grade. They ain't wearing no name brand. So I'm wearing basic shit. Really. My people are going to afford to come to school. They don't have some air forces. Them bitches was leaning though. But they made a whole song in the class. That's all. Damn. Yeah. You make a song. You got to work with them. That's why they called it lean with it rock. Everybody clad. I stuck his ass in. I stuck his ass in. That's why I just started fighting. Fighting in my head. So, but like you just fighting. You ain't knowing how good you can fight. I don't really know. I'm just thinking. Say something in your shit. Take them little suspension days. Yeah. I take my 10 days. Yeah. It was one time me and my mom was to spend it the same time. She got spent from work. We had to crib. Chill out. My daughter's like. Mom, dude's fighting too? Yeah. She look crazy. But yeah, she fighting too. We just spend the same time. So. What can mom say to him? He done got spent with fighting. She got. Man, let me tell you how the bitch tried. We in the motherfucking break room. Yeah. So what now? So that was up. But then when did you start taking it serious? Like to a level of like competing? All right. So I got a partner named Corey from Baltimore. He moved to Atlanta. He was like, bro, you show box, bro. You be already box. So I was like, man, I ain't sure. So I get on, you know, on YouTube, you looking. I'm like, damn, I'm gonna do it. I used to box. I was boxing Denver, but I didn't really take it serious. I'm gonna take it. But you was young though. I was young. So I just, you know, I'm on. You wasn't girl's club. You do everything. Right, right. So I was like, I'm gonna take it serious. You know, I was like, bro, I'm gonna do it. He dead now. But you know what I'm saying? I killed. But I was like, hey, I'm gonna take it serious. And after then I was knocking. I was heavyweight then. So I'm sparring grown man. Dropping back to back to back. So I just. At what age is this? Like 15. Dropping. Hey man, I don't condone violence. That motherfucking pistol on you. So that just, it was like, man, you got talent to get in shape. Cause that boxing condition is a different type of condition. Yeah, bro. Cause honestly, like that's what I do is like, when I start trying to share weight, like do little boxing and shit. So when I went, we ain't throw a motherfucking punch. Didn't they got us skipping around the ring and just ducking. Oh yeah. Man, I'm like. Yeah, I'm like. What's your ass? But I ain't signed up for this shit. I thought nigga gon' hit the back. You know what I mean? But that shit a different type of. Nigga be thinking, you see them boxers going 10, 11 rounds. You're like, man, they ain't doing it. Cause it's only three minutes. Nigga, do that shit for one minute. But they say you just do like, you know a little footwork, a little shadow boxer. They all be looking at the clock like, what the fuck? So how long did it take you to get in shape though? Like boxing shape? Um, how about like, well now I know how to get in shape. Uh huh. Since we saw I be ready to fight. But back then I probably about two months. Two months. Two months. By that time. So then I started, I'm from the Olympic trials. When the national for the Olympic trials, everything else. Like I'm turning pro. The coach I had was like, man, you had a daughter on the way. Like, but you got to get this money, man. So then we turned pro then. That's how I happened. That's what's up. So you been locked in ever since. I've been locked in. But then they just go to show and some seeing somebody else say, you know, I'm like, you should do this, you should do that. And you went from there. Cause before that, what you was thinking about doing? Football about half way of football. So it just, Yeah. Just easy to stop doing that shit. Just causing, causing hell in the neighborhood. That was it. Wapping that. All from a lean with it rock with it. Just imagine if you, if you were to came fresh as hell, you'd never have to fight. If you, like I'm saying, he wouldn't be matril. How you get a name matril? The coach I had was one day, he was like, we got to get you a nickname, man. My name, my real name, the car. He was like, that's too long. I'm not going to call you that shit. Nobody know how to spell that shit, man. I'm like, all right. So just one week, everybody, you know, the Instagram pop and they see like, I want to spar him. And they look at me like, I can take him. Killing shit. Boom, boom, whole week straight. So he's like, your name matril. I was like, I like that shit. And it's stuck. And it's stuck. And then it just, that's been the same. The Michael, you ain't, what, what, what name now you got? They call me Trigger Man. Oh, shit. God damn it. Matril and Trigger Man. Y'all the two wrong niggas be right through at love. Don't two niggas get on a nigga ass. I didn't take y'all to the VVS with me what I did in West. Hey, let me ass though. Like, so, you know, when y'all first turned pro, how was it to experience the politics of boxing? You know, like that first like kind of experience of seeing how these fights really work and you know, how these promoters really operate. How was that for y'all? It was different. Mine was a lot different because I started off, my first fight was on Showtime. And I kind of like seen the real stuff. But, you know, as it goes, like the business of boxing, I ain't a lot like it's real grimy. Like it's almost like you in the streets really. So, you know, you learn a lot who to stay away from and who to stay away from but as long as you got the right team, you'll be all right. My first fight was in a gymnasium. Like, you know what I'm saying? You selling tickets. I think my first purse was like $500. So it wasn't on money. So it was just like kind of you just building your name trying to make that name. Mine wasn't much either. And it was $2,500 though. I'm going on my bills. You know what I'm saying? So it was just like the difference. I was their first pro debut. And it was like, you're like, damn, your first fight is on the tank under car. We in Baltimore. We at this fancy hotel. Yeah. You know, it was like, damn, and mine's just like backyard boogie shit. I'm like, man, I got to work harder. So that's kind of. And that motivation. Yeah, motivation. We were rocking out since the amateur. So it was like, all right. You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of different but I just had to build my way. You know? Uh-huh. With them purses looking like nothing. A long way from 500, ain't it? Yeah. You can tell. Now we had seen, we was in Philly. A Mack truck had pulled up on us. We was at Carlos Miller show. And I had noticed then you had dropped a lot of weight. Yeah. Because it's just, just like working. Like in Philly, that's the difference. Like Leonard, Leonard, like, don't come around Leonard boss. They kind of made me. It made me. So I ain't going to never like, I'm still credit Leonard, but it's levels. You know what I'm saying? I fought. I fought. I was ranked number 14 in the row at seven fights. Like, I ain't had no, I ain't really had nobody pet me. It was like, shit, we go throw you in that fire. So I went out there. I fought somebody who just fought for a real title. So it was just kind of like I was out there. So you know what I'm saying? He, he like 18 and 0, 17, 17 and 1 at the time. So I'm like, shit, it was kind of like got to do it. And he beat me. I mean, I beat me. Now I look back at the fight. It was like, I was winning the fight, but it just knocked me out. Like, you look kind of like, like how, uh, George Forman did. Like, I gasped out, trying to knock him out, hitting on him. I had to sink that motherfucker. What's he, what's he saying? What's he did? Did he play it like that? Like he was seeing that you was, I don't let you tie you out. I really can't even know. Cause like, I know the round. Like two rounds before I got knocked out, I looked over. I said, he was standing up. He sat down. I said, I'm finna get him. Look, I looked at the coach, coach like, nah, man, you got a chip. Like, no, I'm for knocking the fuck out. And then I went out there. Now that was it. I gasped out. It wasn't even, it wasn't even nothing like, it wasn't even like that motherfucker better than me. It was you. I'm trying to knock that motherfucker out. I was really, I really was like, man, I'm about to get this one. But you think if you were to listen to the coach type shit, and that would have changed the trajectory too, though, of like, cause you win that fight. I'm probably fighting for a real title on the next fight, on the 10 fights. That's like, you ain't never, bouncing out. You ain't, you don't hear about the list of little guys like, 10 fights. I'm probably fighting for a real title. Damn. Yeah. Like it was, it was to the point like, cause I remember that, that chair was there alone. Everybody was there, everybody was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know what I mean? It got the embarrassment of that shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, to be honest, I didn't even know how I was knocked out until I went to the back. My manager looking at me at the time, he's like, that's going to be all right, man. What the fuck you mean? It's going to be all right, man. We're going to bounce back. What the fuck you mean? It's going to be all right. Then I looked, I saw my partner, a grown ass nigga cry. Yeah. I'm like, damn. Then I looked at my shirt at the time. She looking to cry everybody crying. Oh, I know what happened. So bro, you didn't realize until you got it? I didn't even know. Like when I watched the fight back, I didn't dap the nigga, walk not the ring. I don't remember none of that shit. So look, that's why it was somebody who would fight and that nigga was talking like he won that bitch. You don't know. Yeah. It didn't just like, you know what I'm saying? It was like, damn, you sit back and look like, damn. When you mixed that shit with exhaustion, bro, that shit. It was just like, everybody like, bro, you was trying to get up. You couldn't even get out. I didn't even, I was out. But then I will say this though, man. Don't you appreciate that it happened early rather than later? And then it's like you could learn from that and just, you know what I mean? Just take something from that. Outside the ring, I had so many people around me, they gone. Everybody gone. Clit a pound. Everybody gone. Like everybody, you must keep a circle small, but it was everybody was around me. Everywhere I went, I had 50 million people around me paying for this, paying for that. Fake ass friends. You know what I'm saying? Growing up, people were like, bro, you 40 something years old, hanging with me. And I'm just like, you cool with shit. Yeah. It's just how I was. You feeling the love, but you don't know what kind of love it is if it's taken real. You hear so much. You hear so much. After that fight, the nigga started scatting. That's what you need to know. I wake up. It's just me, my daughter, my mom. You know what I'm saying? And Brad, at the end of the day, no matter how far you go, bro, when you realize the effort, like all the materialistic shit, all the money, all that type of shit, bro, family, you can't buy certain shit. Yeah. Even when you get all the money, you can buy all the shit you want in the world, bro. You got to get old one day. You got to get sick if you live long enough. Yeah. All that shit going to be gone. That's all you got. You and mama still that suspended. Yeah. Yeah. All that shit. Nah, for real though. But that good that happened like that, though. Who you want to fight? Niggs. This is one mother be talking shit on the ground. He be talking shit, bro. We already sparred. I touched him. I just posted him recently. I touched you up, bro. He just be talking shit. You was saying on Friday? I'm a fucking mother. Who? I ain't going to say his name yet. Y'all going to sit on the ground. Damn, bro. We needed that exclusive. Yeah, then he did. He did some bullshit, too. What he do? He going to have to send a contract my way. All right. You really think you could beat me? Oh, so you feel him try with the shit? I'm going to fuck him up. Okay. Is he undefeated? Yeah, he undefeated. He a kid, though. I already touched his fuck you up, sent you back to Florida. I mean, do shit. Research. Get on the field. Hey, talk about that, too, though. Like the bluffing in boxing and like, you know, the contracts and then, you know, the disrespect that you might feel getting a contract offer from somebody. Oh, yeah. All right. It's one of your ex-real champions. They were supposed to, I was supposed to fight him actually after I won the little belt. He sent a contract, but it was like, you're an ex-real champion. You know I'm not from that set. Right, exactly. But they do that on purpose because they really don't want to fight you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's kind of what it'd be like. It'd be stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? So that's how, that's something I can tell you know what I'm saying, though. Right, exactly. Yeah. Just to see. Because all they don't do is be like, well, I sent him the offer. You know what I'm saying? They got that to say, but even they might not want to fight you. They could be like, well, shit. I gave him the offer and he didn't want to fight me. You know what I'm saying? But do you look at the numbers? You be like, damn. Yeah. And you can't say yeah to that, bro. That's insulting to yourself. You know what I'm saying? That's how it'd be. Like, you got to know your worth. Yeah. But dude, if it's somebody that you really want to fight and they try you on that shit, would you just like, fuck it. I'ma whoop your ass. I mean, yeah. But he got to come with that bag. Yeah. What's it worth? Yeah. The time it got to be right. The time it got to be right. You can't fight a guy like on a local show and he a good fighter. Y'all both ain't making no money. You put it on the TV network. You make some money off of it. Then you blow the fight up. Now it makes sense. Yeah. All right. So, you know what I'm saying? You on the tank cars or whatnot. What's that first like, that first bag you got, you were like, shit, I got to go buy this. I got to buy that. I ain't going to lie. My first check, my little $2,500. Man, I spend it on a girl. Lessons we learned. Lessons learned. I got used to abuse, man. She ain't in here no more, man. That's what I did. Nah, that's what they going to do. But shit, because look, is this true? Is this true? That when y'all train and then y'all going through, y'all don't be fucking. But that's certain. That's certain. Hang on a lie. For my pro debut, no lie, for my pro debut, I did it. That day before, I saw it. And you still won? Man, I won by a crazy knockout. Oh, so it like, that's it? But some niggas might fuck day of the fight, bro. Yeah. I ain't stopping. I can't stop. That's just me. I was trying to make an excuse, like, shit, you ain't had no pussy in a minute. You spend your money on her. But shit, you, you dead wild. God damn. That nigga fight for pussy. Now whoop the nigga head. Yeah. Man, once that money went up, she was gone. It was over with. It went in no secret. Like she just started. She slid on me. Yeah. But see, you, you need to take that loss early too. That's cool. Yeah. Cause it's like, cause then when them bags, that real money, you're like, oh, I know how y'all bitches is. Yeah, for real. Oh, we finna. Oh, no. What the hell? Nah, it was good cause it was early and then I got a girl I wanted to be with. So I ended up getting engaged to her. Like at, oh my, what, 10, I want to say my 10 fight. Okay. So this, so you, yeah, you don't learn from them nine fights. Oh yeah. For sure. Okay. Yeah. You went on and like married. So I'm engaged. Yeah. When y'all going to get married. That engaged, that'll slow him down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a question right quick. Like being a, are y'all favorite athletes boxers growing up? Nah. My was LeBron. Cause I'm from Cleveland. So I ain't a lot of LeBron. Shout out a real nigga, man. I got a few, Aaron Donald like that's probably like the one I fought with AD. Yeah. LeBron, of course, like LeBron to go hands down. You think he could have fucked up in Maine and Doka when they got into it last week? Yeah, for sure. You think so? I don't think so. LeBron. LeBron. LeBron. I don't think so. I don't think so. LeBron. I feel like LeBron. I feel like LeBron just he's so politically correct that he can't do it. Okay. But if he could, you think he'll, what's somebody's that? LeBron, break that nigga's jaw. LeBron is what? At 40 years old, he go on his ass when it shows up. Hey, Draymond chucking you out like that? Hell no. I ain't gonna lie, I would not street fight him. I feel like he can really fight. Man, he ugly as hell. He ain't got nothing to lose. Damn. I get his ass. I don't care about nothing. Who y'all favorite boxers, like a while time? Mike Tyson. Yeah. Mike Tyson. I don't know if I had to go with like, for me, probably Tommy Hearns and Floyd. Sugar Red Leonard. Oh, so you go back watching old clips and all that? Yeah, for sure. That's what I was learning. We studied the game. That's it. Hey, what's Floyd impact on boxing like me and to y'all? Because obviously, you know, he changed the game. Like for the good and kind of for the bad, you know what I'm saying? Like people look at their records and they feel like they can't lose. Like they duck and fight because they don't want to lose. They want to, you know, keep up. I feel like that's the messed up part about it though. Like everybody think they got to have an O and like back in the day, that O didn't mean that like you could take an L and go fight another champion the next time and be on top of the world again. So I think nowadays, like fighters are always trying to protect the O and it ain't really about that. You know, that's the part he messed up on. But I think everybody know that part. But the part he was right about just making God, making sure they get their money, making sure they get their worth. He's showing that work though, showing the work that he put in that work, bro. He's showing you like, you know. I know, I heard stories like Floyd worked hard. Bro, you could see them showtime like you see it bro. Them workouts is crazy. They said one time they were, they worked out like a four hour training session went and ran like seven miles. They said like two hours later he called another fight like we got to run 10 more miles. He's like, damn nigga, we just got fit with the hell. So he worked hard. I remember one time I was young like little boy, it was like, you know, Maddie City was over in Maddie City. And we just, I'm with my mom, we just driving downtown and shit. And we just see a nigga running but we see fancy cars falling. We look on the Instagram. It was Floyd. So it was like, damn, you can tell he just left Maddie City. You can tell like one of those times he had on like street clothes. So I was like, oh damn motherfucker running right now. That's hard. Yeah, yeah. Floyd different though. Yeah for sure. Like to the point of like, I seen one, he was talking about like he bragging how he talked because he know how he done trained. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's different. Like he ain't just talking shit to a motherfucker. I feel like I'm missing that. He was like, I train so much that I know. Yeah. I supposed to have this and supposed to do this. So it's different. Yeah. So I believe he worked hard. He hear stories about it. Like, you know, the best fight you ever seen, whether it's on TV, old fight, live, period. Best fight I ever seen. Man, that's a hard one. It's a lot of one. It's a lot of one. So you saying best fight period? When I say when somebody be like, if you had to pull up and be like, and just show like, now this the best fight between the, like just two boxes fighting and you like, this is a good answer. I say Holyfield verse, oh, what's his name? His name was big daddy. What's his name? He's talking about. He fought three times. I can't remember. I was going to say Diego Corralis versus what's his name? When they kept dropping each other. Yeah. And he dropped him at the end. Yeah. He knocked him out in the end. That was a good fight too. That was full. What's his name? I can't remember. I can't remember. I can't remember. I can't remember. I can't remember. I can't remember. Holyfield. They first fight was right. The greatest fight. Damn, for real? Yeah, Holyfield. Do you think Holyfield get the credit he deserved? Nah. Nah. Group at all. Group. I had just like, Andre Ward, he's not going to get the credit he deserved. He was in the floor here. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Holyfield was in the Mike Tyson area. Mike Tyson. And Holyfield will beat him though. He for real. That's Mike Tyson. Yeah. No, don't get me wrong. I know. Because he was like, still like Tyson, you got to think when, I was coming up for age in like 95, 96, 97. I remember parents and my uncles and everybody meaned up. They got to see Tyson fight. Like Tyson to make motherfuckers spend that unnecessary money. Yeah. To show up and fight. I feel like that's how tank is right now though. Oh yeah, yeah. Everybody tank fight. One post on Instagram. The world going to be there. Yeah. Tank, we had went to this, you know, like if they show the fighting stuff, people in that buying bottles and stuff, like tank, he bring that back to boxing. Where niggas be like, yeah. It's a bitch. It's a real. Yeah. Gotta go. Women know about tank. That's what it is. So it's like, I don't think so many women would know about Holyfield. And when I say knowing like, women be like, oh Mike Tyson fighting. Yeah. Women be like, oh tank fighting. Whether they care about boxing or not, they know to put on some clothes. They want to go see the fight. Tank fight. Hell yeah. Them women, bro, women going to want to do, they just want to do shit. They want to be around shit. Spending money. I know. I wish I would have seen that Mike Tyson. I would have been crazy. We should really go dress up, meet coax, and send them watching the fight. Like, it's crazy. You think that dressing up aspect is missing from the sport right now? Everybody getting fresh? Come to the game, come to the fight. Come to the fight. Buying tuxes and stuff. You know they's being tuxes back then. Like you don't remember the, Muhammad Ali, Frank Lucy. Yeah. Yeah. Come with his head and stuff like that. I played in GZ Rick Ross video. It's called, Almighty Black Dollar. You was in that? Yeah. Boxing in it, and whatever. And that's what they did. Like, what is that? American guest? Yeah, American guest. They did that little thing. I ain't gonna lie, I feel like people should dress up a little bit more in boxing, though. But nigga ain't trying to wear no suits and no goddamn... No, a suit. It should just be more festive. Like, it's not like basketball or football, where we doing this shit every week. It's like, these niggas might fight once in like, to 12 months. And it's the big fight. No, it's the big fight. Yeah. Like, that's what I'm saying, gotta be a good fight. Don't just be wearing no suit to any nigga fight. And then get his head knocked out and you just sitting there with a suit on. Yeah, baby. That has been done, turning to a funeral. Which y'all, what should y'all think about influencer boxing? I'll tell my like, I don't like boxing. Like Jake Paul and, you know, the pauses. I ain't gonna lie, I was just with Jake Paul over the summer in Puerto Rico. Cause me and him got the same trainer. Uh huh. I like it. I feel like he brought a lot of people to the sport to come watch. For sure. Like the influencers, like the internet is the world now. That's how we socializing everything. So them and influencers, I respect to them. I think, I think like, when it first started, I felt like it was like a mockery a little bit. But now it's like, they take it serious. Yeah. And it's more respect, you know what I'm saying? And they really trying. And Jake was just in the tough fight. He was in Dallas and he fought Nate Diaz. Nate Diaz is a killer. He can fight. He ain't no boxer, but put him in the cage. You know what happened. Right. But still a hard fight for a guy that never fought a day. He's like, you know what I'm saying? And still go out there and beat somebody. So it just shows that these influencers are training, you know, and they working hard and respecting the game. So I like it. What camp you like being around mostly? Cause you know what I'm saying? You make your way, you under the tank cars and stuff like that. But like who got them like show love? When I say show love, you seeing things you never seen? Probably the J camp. For real? We had like a personal show. We eating three times a day. We in a big crib. You know, you in Puerto Rico. Yeah. That was a smooth camp. Yeah. Probably the best camp I've been in so far. Like for that type of lifestyle. When it comes to like real how can I say it? Like really working hard. They work hard too. Don't get it twisted. But it was, it's a little bit different cause I was in a Shakira camp. Uh huh. And Terrence Crawford was there. It was in Colorado Springs. It was cold as hell. And we got to run five miles up a mound and I got to come back and spar Shakira. After running five miles? Man, I'm not just up a mound. Nigga, you ain't even got to say up the mound for me. Nigga, it's just running the five miles. Nigga, that's it for me for the week. This is a lot of hard work in that camp. I ain't gonna lie. Damn. So bro, how are you? So it's like that's you really in shape enough to fight anybody now? Cause like you training with them you in the same type of shape though? Yeah, yeah, definitely for sure. Damn. I ain't gonna lie to them but getting to camp with Shakira I got my ass whipped. I ain't gonna lie to them. He was fucking me up every day. And then until I got in shape and then one day I sparred and he was like, this is my fucking in shape now. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. It was good I think. So once you had gotten in shape and stuff. Yeah man, because I ain't ever been in a sit-off camp like that. I ain't ever worked as hard in my life Bro, five miles up a mountain? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then say spar, I see if it's him. Man, we gonna rest for like an hour and knock on my door and I'm like, time to spar. I'm like, what? Damn. Got to work. Get paid for work. Got to work. You running up five miles of a mile? I mean, I ain't gonna don't mind. I be training with boots, dryness and they go up the mountain they be like, they're sitting like, hey man, they dad, he's still like, he's still running and training and all that. So I'll be running with him, but they be like, they go up the mountain they run up the hills and all that. Do my five miles on flat surface, I'm good. You be ready to whoop ass? Yeah, I'll be. That mountain ain't gonna change. Shit. Shit. For real, gotta be got them. What's your goal in this though? Yo, like, when I say goal, not just overall thinking of like, what legacy does Mack Truck want to leave in the boxing? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? No matter what you look like, height, weight, you can do it. You know what I'm saying? People, you know what I'm saying? People look at boxers, six pack and they ripped up and I'm knocking them the fuck out. Right. You ain't gotta be, you ain't gotta have that look to, you know what I'm saying? You can be a normal dude. See, I want to beat all them niggas that ain't here for the Chubby generation. Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? That's what I mean. Yeah. Generate, like kids, you go to the kids and talk to them at the middle school, my old middle school and it's like, y'all really don't know what y'all want to do. I ain't know what I want to do at middle school. Nah, I didn't know. Y'all really don't know what y'all want to do. You know what I'm saying? What you want to do? I don't know. You know what I'm saying? If you don't want to go to college, I'll box. I ain't go to college or high school when I'm done. Yeah. But see, sometimes when, I'm glad you said even going back to the school, when people see people like that around, it'll light bulb in the head or he come from where I'm from. Yeah. Or I could do this or I could do that or shit. If I'm always flying, let me see if I can box. Yeah. Because fighting and boxing are two different fucking things. Mm-hmm. Because you'll see that shit quick, especially when you put gloves on and you don't swung and a nigga don't dump that motherfucker two or three times. That fight ain't gonna stop. So what? You don't goddamn gas that, now that nigga don't knock your ass out. Yeah, I'm tired. I'm tired. Because boxing and flying are two different things. Like you can't grab, you know what I'm saying? And slam a nigga. And then once Mike come break it up, it's shit. Y'all separate, and I come out with that. Yeah. You got three minutes. It'd be different. What would be different? Talk about why, talk about like the process of making a fight happen. Like, and why some fights don't happen or why it might take so long, why negotiation, like for instance, the bud and spence fight, that shit was five, six years into making, you know what I'm saying? So from y'all perspective, talk about like, you know, just the process and why some fights happen and some don't. I just think it'd be just the timing of it and just most importantly, probably just the money. Because at the end of the day, the promoters got to make the money, the whole business got to make money. So if these guys like, Spence and Terrence Crawford fighting three years ago, wouldn't make sense three years ago. Because they're bigger names now. Now that they fought, it didn't blow it up. You know, the old company that made some money. So that's really how I just think about it. You think that's why it's taking so long for a tank and handy to fight? I really want to say that, but I still feel like the timing ain't right. I agree. I feel like the timing just ain't right. I agree. But they couldn't make it happen now, but... Yeah, it wouldn't be on the level of nowhere near a bud in Spain. Yeah, because Devin just had a good fight. Tank always have a great fight, but I think maybe like in the next year. Yeah. So you know when you hear a bud say he want to fight somebody like Tank, what do you take from that? Like a bud want to fight Tank? Yeah. Not no comment. On... Bud a bad motherfucker. I ain't gonna lie. But Tank can crack him, you know. Yeah, like it's... To me personally, it's a 50-50 fight for real. I mean a lot of people disagree with what I say, but honestly it's 50-50. Yeah. I just think bud is smarter than everybody else though. He just was so much smarter than everybody else. Yeah. You know, all these fighters are champion for a reason, but there's some guys in this game like let me still wait for you. You know what I'm saying? You on a whole different level and that's a person right there. Stay away from them. Let there man be. Yeah. So look man, you been a heavyweight cause I be looking at, you know when they they show the boxers, like you know what I'm saying? In those classes, it motherfucker be like 5'5", 1'30". When you see that type of shit, you be thinking, I'll knock this motherfucker out, but then you see the motherfucker strong as a bitch. I'll fight that 1'30". For real? Yeah, but I'm six foot. Yeah, but it's something everybody gotta fight. They be small, like I'll fight real short. But sometimes they be having a reach and stuff like that too though. Yeah, yeah. So do you think you got that vantage at being six feet? Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah. Like a lot of guys they ain't gonna really take a chance to come in or you know I'm using my jab the entire time then they do try and come in and throw it right in. Probably sleep more than likely. Yeah. So what you be thinking about that man when you be saying like the smaller? Like a lot. That's, they be kind of my harder fights. For real? When we the same height. For real? Yeah, when they taller than me, oh yeah, smash. Ain't gonna lie. Every time he fight a tall guy or a small tall guy, he beat him up. And then he fight a guy his size, it just never works out. It's the hardest fight I've had. Like that'll be a little harder. So I'll be like. But what makes it like that? I'm just used to always fighting somebody tall. You fight, you know, heavyweight, I'm short in heavyweight division, so it's like everybody tall. Average. Six foot five, six, six. Yeah. That's it. So it's like. Cause how tall are you? I'm five ten. So it's like, they punch it down at me. I'm shh shh shh shh. I'm walking in. Boom. Boom. They like, and they get hit now. It's like they out. Yeah. That's how they just be. That's how they are. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. You ever been jumped before? Yeah. Yeah. They tried. That's a crazy question. Nah, for real. I guess these kids was like, the next person they run through, we taking that shh shh. For no reason. I'm gonna guess that was me. I'm walking, it's raining too. They pointed, they came. They thought we need all that. I stuck the first one. Boom. They look, he fell out. And I just took off running. I ain't gonna lie, I got jumped off the MLK. Hold up. Got beat up, man. You should take this one. No, it was that. When it come, I can't use it. It was that. When it come, I can't, you talk about that turn. Trigger, man. Ready? So you said you got jumped too? Man, yeah, man. I was a kid. I had to be like 14. I was off MLK. Mm-hmm. Just walking. Man, that's the thing. On the west side. Yeah, I was on the west side. Yeah, that's what we used to live. Man, I got stuck. All I remember is falling, getting beat up, shoes down. For no reason? For no reason. So I ended up calling my daddy on the phone, telling him what's going on. Luckily, I stayed like right there. I ain't never seen my parents drive so fast in my life. The key is running. And my parents trying to run them over. Like, that shit was crazy. Hey. That shit was wild. The fact that y'all are professional boxing, y'all parents with the shit, too. Like, there to see y'all. So after that, you weren't boxing before that, though, was you? Nah, I wasn't even boxing. I started boxing when I was 19. Damn. Yeah. I was a little older. Yeah. So in, like, already, like, you just see the... Do you, like, wish you, like, would have learned the craft at an early age or everything happened before a reason? I used to think like that, but I felt like everything happened before a reason. Because when I started boxing, because at the time, like, my family, like, we had no money and we were sleeping in the car. Uh-huh. And it was like a boxing gym. And I would just go. And I just ended up just didn't want to be in the car with them all day. So I'd just be in the gym the whole time, literally, when it opened until it closed. And I just got good over time. Damn. Damn. That shit inspiring for real, because, like, you got to think, some people use what's going on in their life to, like, stop them from doing shit. You ain't got no excuses, bro. Yeah, for real. You can figure some shit out. Yeah. They be like, man, my mama and my dad didn't have this shit. Like, nigga, like, sometimes people need to tell and share the whole story. So people who might be going through that situation, they hear that shit, like, boy, I should do this or I could be doing this. Yeah. For real. For real. That's what's up, though. You said James Tony, he wanted to go to boxing. You had to put that. Yeah, that's one of my goats. James Tony. James Tony. Yeah. Sleep. Knock your ass out. He used to be on Fox Sports a lot. He met Matt Kellerman and stuff like that. He used to come up. Yeah, I remember him a lot from that. He was a little beast. Anybody in the boxing game that you met and then you were like, oh, this motherfucker legit and cool as fuck. Or not even on that note, somebody you probably would start struck by when you met him. Adrian Brunner. For real? Man, Adrian Brunner gave him a handshake. He in the hotel and I'm like, bro, I ain't never watching my handshake. And he was on top at one point. Bro, how was that stuff? Adrian Brunner made that shit fun, though. Yeah, he did. Man, when did he get out of the car doing that thing? The can, man. Yeah. Adrian Brunner was rapping. And I was like, bro, what is this thing? Bro. When he did that can, man. And then when he, oh boy, the white man, when he cussed his ass up. He said, I'll knock you out, though. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, A.B. probably was when I got started struggling with. Yeah. And he's funny. He was there. He was laughing. Because he didn't already met him and shit. I'm like, A.B. I'm like, bro. I don't give a fuck. So if it weren't A.B. for him, who it was for you? Oh, shit. I probably had to go to Floyd. Yeah, A.B. When I seen Floyd, I was in the back room. And I just, he walked in to go shake up everybody. Man, A.B. I was sitting there like, damn, this Floyd. And that was it. He tapped everybody else. He tapped everybody else. That nigga deal about four or five niggas. It's like seven feet, bro. That shit crazy. Dressed in all black. Yeah. I done seen him before. That's the boxer who made him starstruck. Rob Wave had this nigga starstruck. Yeah, the concert crying. And I'm like, oh, that was legend. I'm going to get it, bro. I'll be there tomorrow. Yeah, that Rob Wave concert. Bro, you know how like you, I got kids, man. My kids be listening to us. So I'm like, you know, I like a few Rob Wave songs because they don't put, you know what I mean? Put them in rotation. Yeah. But like, bro, I didn't know like, he had that type of impact. I'm watching concerts. Mother fucker. He didn't say shit. He just came out and he bitching. Word for word. Crazy. I said, bro, this is different. And he go, like, this concert is different. So I like, I got to go again tomorrow. I went and asked if it was smooth. I said, I'll go one more time. I'll fuck with dog. He go hard, bro. Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. I appreciate you all, boy. Pushing up, just talk. You know what I mean? Talk. You know what I mean? He ain't got a professional interview. Yeah. If y'all niggas wanted to come here and say y'all want to whoop a nigga head, you ain't got to call a nigga out on the show, bro. We just talk about it. Yeah, for real. So we're going to find that nigga, you will tell him out. Now we pushing up on him Friday. For real? What y'all going to be at? We going to go to Orlando or Jake Paul fight and do a fight on the other card. Pushing up on him. No, you can at least tell us this. What you going to say to all you said? I don't even know. He don't like confrontation. I like confrontation. You going to feel me like Paul. So what you can't hit the nigga though? No, I mean if he get crazy, you know what I'm saying? Y'all don't get fired on this shit, can't you? No. I ain't going for that. You know what I'm saying? Oh, he want to get some real disrespectful shit. But like you can just bump a nigga or something like that. They want to disrespectful just like, if you had the heart to even do that, would you send a contract and all that? Do it just feeling himself right now. He feeling himself. Yeah. Bring him down a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Time for that. Yeah. Friday, nigga, you going to see it? Yeah. Yeah. Man, I appreciate you. Anything y'all want to shout out or just, you know what I mean? I can't really talk about it right now because it's still... Go ahead though. That Pauly said no, man. I know you can't talk about this shit. Yeah, but I'm saying I would have did that if we, I know he couldn't talk about this shit. Look at that one. I ain't bring it up. We just trying to... Don't worry about that, bro. He fuck up here every week. That's my dog, man. Yeah. So you should know. You fuck up here every week. Yeah. Anything y'all want to shout out though? Hey man, just shout out to y'all for having us on the show. I really appreciate y'all. Next year, March, both of us will be back. You feel big fights coming up and we'll keep y'all tuned. So y'all training... We ain't trained right after New Year. It's like locked in. January 15th. January 15th, y'all. We're switching y'all back in. All right. Man, appreciate y'all coming through. We got the Michael Trigger Man hairs and we got motherfucking Mack truck. Like your coach said. We ain't got to say that whole. Yeah. All right. I'm now bringing this been broken. Play. That's a cut.