 What's up guys, welcome to Bars with Stars right here on SPM Bars, my name is Miski Tenji and I am hanging out with someone, I don't think you've seen him in a long time but he's right here and this is the one and only Big Ted, how are you? I'm excellent, how are you doing? Very good, karebo sana. Asante sana tu kusawa, SPM dania nyumba? Yes. Now you know we are here because of Chippukizi Big Ted, I would like to know what's your relationship like with Chippukizi? Chippu is my small brother, I actually spotted him in the crowd when he was starting comedy and through what I used to do before on Churchill, gave him a platform for him to rise and we've been together for all these years, we share ideas and stuff and just grow each other, yes. Perfect, now looking at him where he is right? When did you know Chippukizi? I mean I think I got to see Chippukizi. Wait, Eric Komondi is here, just stop Eric Komondi as the president of comedy. Eric Komondi is here, he is going to the toilet, Eric don't go to the toilet for too long, don't go for too long in the toilet because, and Isindu is also here, you know Isindu, Isindu come here? Isindu lazimani ni? Hello. How are you? I'm fine, how are you? Where are you these days? Covid. What do you do when you're sick? I'm sick, how are you? Yes, I'm fine, what do you do when you're sick? I'm sick, I'm ill. I'm very sick. I've seen many people who have Chippukizi, well, there are many who have Chippukizi. I've seen many of them, I've seen many people who have Sombili. There are many people who are picking up and asking for money. and operate on faith that things will change, things will work out and everything, just wait Eric is here. Sa problemi anguna Eric ni, muna ni kama izinguo yoji jenga lafu anaji fanyani kuna designer. Kuskila saku na materiwe na miss. Last time, Trousa hupana materiwa zingin. Mata usidanga anyue, usidanga anyue. Uni Eric, Eric ni, King, President of Kipendi. Kipendi. Akuna wala Kipendi jenei. Eriko. Victoria, I want you to look on that camera and promise Kenyans. Me and Chibukizi, we are the Kenyan artists who have gone to the America, to the United States. The most times. That is true. In terms of comedy and guys who have been able to break through, these two actually rank. You're actually asking me right now what I can say, is guys who have overcome fear. The fear of the unknown is what holds everybody behind. And when you see young people coming out, this guy, whatever he does, I'm about to call him, but I'm not sure if it's in danger or not. So I was like, if he gets to the, he'll call me. But when he doesn't call, I want to call. Like, I won't lie to you, the other day I was at the police station, actually went there. You know, getting there he's not even there. I'm like, listen, I'm tired of these things man. So even this thing of the shoes, ah, these are lie. These shoes are not real. You jamaame tarwizi. I mean the toy market akaba heviatus. Kipendi. What I meant was congratulations. But you know, those shoes are not this type. This is a butter. This is a butter. I love you. I love you. I love you. But now Big Ted, what do you actually think about what Eric does, you know, like pushing for the 70%, you know, play local music and local content. What do you think about what he does? The same Eric was hosting a Nigerian show. What is he telling us? No Tanzanian show. Why did you host harmonize? Yes. No, they played. No, they didn't. The DJ was my employee. And I told the DJ, the only time you're going to play anything international is when Amunets gets on stage. I think what we need to give Eric one thing for, is that he's brave. Okay, he's doing what people are not able to do. And many times he says things which people want to say, but they're not able to say because of their hiding in their cocoons. So for that I give him 100%. Yes. But because I'll be a viewpindi. Viewpindi. You know? Let me tell you. He's an entertainer. And he has to understand something about entertainment. Entertainment is there to entertain you. And any time entertainment is able to take you from being curious to following it, it's doing its job. That's what it's all about. What's a series? A series is not true. It's a story written by somebody. So it means he's very creative and we just need to harness that. And be able to take it to the next level. Okay. What do you think? I think he's actually doing a good job, a very good job. Sawa, alright. I think he's doing a very good job. Sawa, I think he's doing a very good job. Thank you. So you're saying he's doing a very good job? Yes. Yes, he's doing a very good job. Okay. He's doing a very good job. He's doing a very good job. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I go for one hour for sure, now you know, artists are getting into, I go for one hour when it comes to interviews. Okay, let's be clear. Muja hini SPM. Muneza chi jivitu hapa lafumu seme. Oh, 10 said, 10 said. We don't do that here. Now you see, artists are getting into politics right now. So would like to know, do you think that just been having a following on social media guarantees that you have the leadership skills and what do you think about artists getting into politics? Number one, no. Okay. Number two, I believe that leadership is a calling. Anybody who goes into leadership without the calling will always end up somewhere wrong. But people who go in there with the urge and the vision and the call to actually serve people, it's a different story. So I'm for youth taking part in political activities. I'm actually very, very, very, hey. Who's this guy? Come. You know him? No, but he will know him now. Come, come, come, have a seat. Yeah. Just come, come, come. To news yourself. Hi guys, my name is Jeremiah. Who is Chupukizi to you? Because I think you have because of Chupukizi. They are very good friends to me. What do you have to say about him? Happy birthday and I wish you the very best that life can ever offer him. Wonderful. Wonderful. Thank you though. Big third is ambushing people here. Umezi aizikwam sayo mahtani. Mahtani oizitu aje maya. Na uto boi. Ati mene to aje maya. Oto tachia kapa lao uko tmabaye bulbas. Anyway, what I think is that young people need to get involved in politics. But politics is a system that you get into. Number one, let us join political parties. But we want you in parliament, that's the reason why we actually vote for you. Okay, now let's talk content creation because you've just you know encouraged content creators up on stage. Now online media is coming up very fast but I would like to know what where do you think mainstream media is left in all this? Well everything has its place. When us guys are coming into the industry we thought the older people don't have a place but they do have because of institutional memory number one but also wisdom in the way things are run. So I don't think traditional media will actually die it will be there it has its niche it will always stay in there but I think everything that you do you must always think about a solution for the future. The solution for the future is digital. Anything that is not digital will not survive so you may make money but you'll not be able to do other things. One of the things that you see in the world right now is that everybody is going digital. They're going onto platforms which are handheld which somebody is able it's a supportable platform so that's where everybody needs to go to. But listen it doesn't mean that if you go onto that platform you'll actually make it. There are those who will fall off there are those who'll rise there are those who will die and that's something which everybody has to know. Now you see the entertainment industry has changed over the years you know but where do you think we stand at the moment when it comes to entertainment especially in comparison with our West African brothers and of course I mean Tanzania as well. Well I think our time is coming number one I want to declare I think that Bongo is dead in Kenya Niger music I mean we've had each and every artist from Nigeria who can actually come here. It's time for Kenya but it's time that we actually embrace the art forms that are coming out of Kenya whether it's Gangaton whether it's Kapuka whether it's uh whatever it's coming out of Kenya is what we need to embrace. I would like to encourage Kenyans that you see what everybody else is doing in the world is embracing their own and supporting their own. I think it's time that we actually fast consumed ours and then we are able to go out there and consume everybody else's now Kenyans I believe are 20 years ahead of their time we are Kenya has one of the it's a country with one of the highest internet penetration rates in in the world in Africa we actually even ahead of South Africa okay that's number one number two number two I think that Kenya has the potential and the capacity to raise its own stars and what I want to suggest to every Kenyan is let's try something out let's try and put our weight behind our stars let's try and say you know what we need to build five Saudi souls this year and let's get the corporates behind it let's get government has shown its willingness to support but you see government's work is to create an environment that is able to support what the corporates are putting in let's get the corporates in let's get individual Kenyans I mean we how many 47 000 for 7 million Kenyans if only 10% say they are willing to give 10 000 shillings to Saudi soul or Ben soul or soul generation or calligraph or whichever artist we're just about to change this thing and we can do it over and over again it can even be organized into like a company whereby we buy shares we get these guys out and then we are able to get more so I am I'm for the idea that we need to breed more Saudi souls more calligraphs more hard the bands more all these other groups so that we have a lot of content out there another thing I don't think most of the movies we watch are 99% white we don't have enough of those white guys here but we have 100% black people we need to start telling our own stories let's adopt what the bongo wood is doing what nollywood is doing what bollywood is doing I mean I'm sure the bollywood guys were like you know what we can't keep on bringing 100 000 white guys to have these movies let's tell our stories and remember what they said the day the lion is able to tell its story then it will be able to shame the hunter because right now the only stories we hear are about the hunters so what about our stories luanda margaria mekatili syokimau you know all these guys can we tell their stories can we tell the stories of how kenyan lifestyle is it's amazing place you've watched some of the movies done in kenya they are beautiful they are amazing we are able to do this thing we definitely need to tell more of our stories you allowed me to talk but I won't keep you for long but let me talk about Ezekiel Muto you know Ezekiel Muto was in in film now he's in music mcsk and there's been a lot of reaction around his reappointment in this other department so what are your thoughts about his reappointment number one i don't want us to talk about people's ability not people's personalities so if it's about ability i'm willing to talk if it's personality i'll leave that for your recommended ability ability i believe he can deliver he has the passion he has the drive he is able to do it okay so you see anytime we look at someone's personality then you see we lose it because you're not looking at my ability so if i say oh i don't think your personality does not carry what what do you need what do we want we want a champion want somebody to fight for us day and night want somebody who's shamelessly going to stand and say you know what i believe in this thing this is how this thing will be done he'll be able to do it yes the the issue of carrying grudges from past things doesn't count for me yes i believe that's how we lose it by being able to carry grudges from way way way beyond uh other things and i believe the board regardless of what we think whether people like it or not i think the board was willing and it sat down and people were able to make a decision what were they looking for i believe they're looking for a fighter and a champion perfect now this one this is the last one for sure you have a new role now we are calling new ambassador congratulations on that thank you thank you now really like to know as you always say god wins again god wins again oh wow now i'd like to know what is that one skill or rather a few skills that you possess that you feel your feet for that position 100 percent well um number one i believe in myself and that's something very few people do and number two and the final one is i believe in god yeah and you can't fight god even if you want to yeah so in god's time it has happened and as i told you before god wins again thank you so much and congratulations on your wedding we saw pictures we saw pictures yeah all right thank you so much for talking to espion bars thank you thank you keep watching espion bars it's right here this is where everything happens and how we tell you the story live and direct come on all right thank you so much thank you all right guys that was big tid right here on bars with stars on espion bars my name is miss kipinji keep watching espion bars until next time it's goodbye