 I'm being completely dead, to be honest with you. You are a sick person. That's pretty f***ing horrible. You are a scumbag, aren't you? Deep down, you are a scumbag. Horrible animal abuser, that's what it makes you. How do you sleep, Pat and I? That is embarrassing! I don't want to hurt you. Oh, we're going down, it's the gas. We're going to get caught. The meat industry torture pigs in gas chambers, they're scum. We're from Spain. You're from Spain, yeah? They do it in Spain too? Gas chamber in Spain? All in Europe? The meat industry torture animals and lie to you. Are you looking it up, man? No, no, no. I thought you were looking up UK pork industry gas chamber. I do like meat. Yeah, do you? Do you know about... Do you eat pork? Do you eat pigs? Bacon, sausage? Yeah, this is a gas chamber, they get tortured in there. CO2 gas? Yeah. I mean, yeah. You don't care? The world is cruel. So why would you donate to people who torture animals? They don't torture them. That's not their intention. Oh no, no, it's very clear. Do you know much about CO2 gas? It's... Yeah, well... It's torture. It's also food. How are we supposed to survive? You think torturing animals is OK for food? What, do you think us starving and... Do you think you need to eat animals to not starve? Well, how come I'm not dead? Because you probably eat plants and beans. So you said I need to eat meat? Or I will not die. So do you need to? You... Yeah. Do you need to? You need nutrition, yeah. You're saying I'm not... They only have any nutrition? Been vegan 10 years. No, I'm not saying you don't have nutrition. So you're saying we have to torture pigs and we will die of starvation? Is that your claim here today? Is that how you're justifying this horrific, disgusting torture? We need calories. We need calories. OK, and from where? From pigs, from tortured pigs you need calories. Food, yeah. Yeah, so you can eat plant foods, can't you? I can't eat plant foods. Before you said you need to eat these animals and torture them in order to survive, which is a lie. I mean... It's you trying to justify a horrible, horrifying torture. That's what it is. And that makes you a horrible... That makes you a horrible, horrible animal abuser. That's what it makes you. You need to sustain yourself. You're a horrible animal abuser if you think that's OK for bacon. I need to sustain myself. Do you need bacon sandwich? Do you need to sustain yourself? Yeah, and I do. There you go. I do. I could outrun you right now. There you go. I could outrun you right now. Let's do it. I've been vegan 10 years. Let's do it. Yeah. We could have a boxing match right here. Let's have a boxing match right here. A legal boxing match. I don't want to hurt you. No, yeah. But look, these animals are being... That would be consensual, right? That would be consensual. This here is not consensual. This is them being tortured against their will for a flavour, not the survival, like you're saying. If you have to... If someone's attacking you right and you have to kill them out of survival, I understand. I get it. But they're innocent beings being tortured for a bacon sandwich. Like, where do you have... Like, where's your humanity and your empathy, your compassion for these beings? They can't do anything. And you're being dismissive and, like, disconnected and just like, well, f*** it, that has to happen. It doesn't have to happen. Well, something has to happen. If they're torturing humans in gas chambers, you would probably say, I'm not going to donate my money to them to begin with. That's different there, isn't it? Well, they're both feeling beings. Yeah, but we're not torturing pigs to torture them. But they are being tortured. It's a prerequisite. We're torturing them. It's a requirement. For ourselves. So, say that again, man. I just want to be clear. We're not... It's not the same purpose. So you're torturing to eat them. So if I torture you to eat you, then it's okay. Exactly. But we're not... It's not torture, is it? Yeah. It's not torture. You are a scumbag, aren't you? Deep down you are a scumbag. Deep down you are a scumbag. You think torturing to eat someone is okay. And especially if it's done in a humane way... You have no soul. If it's quick, right? I just told you they're being tortured. They're not being tortured, though. This isn't torture. They're suffocating a CO2. It burns them. It forms carbonic acid in them. It burns them. It forms carbonic acid in their eyes, nose, lungs. You know nothing about what you're talking about. And you're saying they're not being tortured. I expose these gas chambers. I'll start the cameras in them. Right. There's a whole documentary about this. But they're not being tortured. Great. Let me ask you a question. Do you think they know they're being put to sleep? It doesn't matter. How does that not matter? A baby wouldn't know either. It's okay to kill a baby. You're sick. You're sick. You're sick, dude. Bro, I'm being straight up. I'm being completely dead set honest with you. You are a sick person. If you're killing... If they don't know... If you didn't know... If I shot you in the back of the head, is that okay if you didn't know? Come on, man. You look like a half-smart guy. If you shot me in the back of the head, I would much prefer that than you coming up to me... I didn't say what you would prefer. Would it be okay to do? Much, much more. Would it be murder? Yes, much, much more than if you just came up... I never said they're being tortured. They feel every second of this. They're not even conscious. They're not like... Dogs are not conscious. No. So dogs, I can torture a dog. It's okay. They're not conscious. They're not the same. I never said if they're the same level. I said... You said they're not conscious. They're not the same level. Animals not conscious now. It's not... Compared to humans, no. No one said compared to. I said, are they conscious? I said compared. You said they're not conscious. No, they're not. Did you go to school? Legitimate question. Did you go to school? It's not the same thing. I dropped out when I was 14. And I know more than you. And I was a gang member. And I have more empathy than you. You're an animal abuser in your heart. You're an animal abuser. You're an animal abuser. You have very sick ideas about animals. And you shouldn't be allowed to express them freely. Because it's people like you that the reason that animals are tortured. Because you are scum inside your heart. You need to grow a heart first. Grow a heart first and then open your mouth. Until then, shut your ignorant mouth. Disgusting animal abuser. Disgusting animal abuser. Justifying the torture of sentient beings. Justifying their torture. Are you proud of it? Say it proudly. What's your name? Say your full name. Say your full name. This man here thinks animal cruelty is completely okay. And the animals are not conscious. And they don't experience torture. Well, that's interesting. Because even the meat industry who kill the animals know that the animals experience suffering. True. Even the meat industry who make money off animals know they experience suffering. Which is why they talk about welfare and free range. But you, even the evil meat industry know they are conscious. Even the evil meat industry, you don't think they are. So you have an even worse position than the industry we're fighting against. That's pretty f*****g horrible. That's pretty f*****g horrible. Animal abuser. No soul, no heart, no compassion. Look in the mirror. How do you sleep at night? How do you sleep at night? How do you sleep at night? Okay. Can I ask you a question? No, I don't want to hear your disgusting views on animals. Disgusting animal abuser. Shame on you! A lion! A lion! Bro! That is embarrassing. Embarassing! So, it's okay for lions to torture animals. So it's okay for you to torture animals. Embarrassing. Embarrassing. Really disgusting human. Just no soul. He's watching animals be tortured and he has no soul. No compassion. This is beyond the animal rights issue even. There's a torture issue. They're just torturing them. And I just had no patience for people like that anymore. Well, I will. I do. I can. But this particular moment, I did not hear too many screams of pigs suffering in gas chambers today for... If you're not going to give me like an ounce of... If you're not going to give the animals an ounce of compassion, like, then what compassion does he deserve? He should be ashamed of himself for espousing such disgusting views on animals. Not even the meat industry does that. Not even the meat industry will say that animals are not conscious and they don't feel anything. Which is why they have all these welfare guidelines and stuff like that. He even said it's okay to torture them if you're going to eat them because it's not torture just for the sake of torture. It's torture for us, for a purpose, yeah. Which is sick. And I asked him if it's okay to torture a person and he said yes. Like, if anyone had those kind of views about human beings or children, like, just disgusting, heartless, cruel views, they would be shouted at, shouted down in public. Probably, who knows what kind of social justice might happen to them. So, like, animals are so behind that people are going to just espouse disgusting views about animals without having any social repercussion. How sick. Even if this guy was talking about, like, if you put up a dog meat sign right now and said you had dog meat, people would shout you down. They would be losing it at you. But this guy here can just espouse disgusting, heartless views about pigs and he thinks it's just fine, socially acceptable. It's totally fine. So, like, I want to know if you are a proud animal abuser. Because if you're a proud animal abuser, it shouldn't matter. She's like, cool. Yeah, that's me. Animal abusing.