 The podcast like this, who gonna bring it to the table? Boss talk, who your girlfriend favor? Boss talk, we gon' do it how you want. Man, check it man, hey man. It's your boy E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Miss Jamaica, what's going on? Not none of you know my dad walking around. Man, we got a guy right here, y'all. This guy right here, he been on here, man. People be like, man, you always be having him on there. Yeah, nigga, cause this nigga right here, he gon' come bring you the story, man. Yeah, y'all see me transcribe. I don't went from Afro to Lil' Tweets, I'm a full blown corn rose. Rainwater's in the building, man. What's going on, Ray? Y'all might. Man. You gon' be bald headed next. Damn. Ray, man, you ain't, ain't, man. I got a question first for Ray. Damn. I wanna know, Ray, why you like us so much? Or do you like us so much? Yeah, you don't think this is how the nigga's going on? You know what I mean? You like us so much? No, because you know why I say that? Why? There's so many other podcasts that Ray don't go on. Yeah, yeah, that's right. He can choose. I go on a lot of them though. No, you go on a lot of them, but you don't go on. And I guarantee you, you have people who reach out to you and you still don't go. Yeah, I don't go to this shit. So, what is it about us why you come to us? Because if an ex didn't say the wrong thing, I called him and said, please don't put that up. So the nigga's on curfew. And Ray, you'll say whatever, man. There's a lot of people watch you. They watch to see what, Ray, you actually, since I first met you in the Watch Your Movement, man, you made yourself to where you can go anywhere and interview and people gon' listen. All over, you know, I remember he said, man, let's say G's when turn me up. But I thought, I think a lot of them say, G's the hardest one to be on the Twitch outside of me. You know what I'm saying? I can't put myself behind, but he heals the old G. But at the end of the day, you basically can go anywhere and do an interview and it's gon' make some noise. Now people watch it like cable. Yeah, yeah. I meet people every day, like, I be watching all your interviews, this and that. Now, no, I don't be talking about a damn thing. It's like, bro, you be so real. Like, damn, my mama another day, she was like, he telling y'all he ain't got no, he ain't got no loud top, he don't know his next move. That people don't even listen to what he says. Do your mama watch your interviews? Yeah, she watch all of them. What she say about them when she, when she watch it and she see you? She say, that's rain. She know, I know rain. That's rain, don't let rain come around me. Cause that's what she feel, that's her baby. She ain't trying to hear it. Did she just like you? Nah, she complete opposite. Really? I'm the complete opposite of my other family. Wow. You not like nobody, your dad? Where is your daddy? Nah, he ran just, I don't know. You don't deal with him? Yeah. Oh, okay. Who you look like? Oh, probably my mama, my grandpa. Really? My whole family stay with me. That's crazy, for real? Yeah. Why you have them with you and not to set them up in another house somewhere? I don't know, man. Family, y'all like Hispanics. Hispanics do that. Yeah, I got, there's my house right now, about seven rooms, I'm from the move in about 30 days. It was big house. You gonna leave them in that house? About nine, it was another big house. Yeah, I got like nine, 10 rooms, where I'm finna get a huge house. I'm like acres and horses and chickens. Cause some people can't stand having, you know, your family members with you. It's so big, everybody got their own section. They don't get on top of your nerves? Nah, I love them. You can still love your family and they get on top of your nerves now. Now a woman to leave you more than before your family. That's real. But sometimes it's that blood thicker than water. Blood thicker than water. Yeah, but no, sometimes some family members, you don't need, some family members, you don't need. I got the media people. My brother, everybody's talking to me. Yo, I can't function without my people's name. Y'all never get into it? No. Cause I'm half way there anyway, but then I'm half way there anyway, but then at the end of the day, my people, nah, I stay with my mom my whole life, she can stay with me her whole life. But your daddy don't live with you? Yeah, my whole family stays with me. Your whole family. Your mom and daddy still together? Yeah. Okay. That's hard. You know, I wanted you to come back over here cause I want to talk about this documentary. It's definitely something that I feel like, you know, it's going to open people's eyes. I probably feel better asking you that though. Like how in depth did this documentary go? The 50 cent, what was it called? It's deep. What's it called? Hip hop homicide. Hip hop homicide. And it's real deep. It's not the question that people want to ask. You know, there's a lot of people on there. The girls mostly left the house. Really? They on there? Yeah, the one girl on there. I don't matter if Furry's not found that she was on there. Which girl is this? The Joshi girl. They talking the girl that when he left her house, her baby daddy was in there. So she on there? She on there. I was wondering what happened to her cause I ain't heard nothing about her since. Yeah, it goes in deep details. You know, people were saying that she has something to do with and she ain't have nothing to do with it. You just go through too big, be up there. But have you seen it? I've been up there too. Yeah. You seen the documentary? Yeah, you seen it. I had a review. Okay, that's what I was wondering if you get to review it before it actually goes out. So you basically, did you, you didn't know her either. You didn't know her? He talked about it, but I didn't know. I didn't really know them. Yeah. I didn't really know them. How long were they involved for? Mm-hmm. He don't know them. No, because you said he talked about her. So they didn't know what he told you. After he met them on Facebook, they were Facebook friends and then he was cool with the mama and then you know there was a lot of shit leading up to that. But me and Mo3, like two different type of women. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What type of woman you like? They gotta be mixed with white. So you don't talk to no black girls? I ain't talked to a black girl since like, damn they're like 2013, 2012. So you one of them? Yeah. Oh, one of them? Wait a minute. I'm scared of them getting black girls. Why? Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. See where you just said. All black girls aren't ghetto. I'm talking about this majority around here. And it's- Cause you can still have a black girl. Yeah, you still have a black girl but I like minds mixed with white or another culture. I do. I wanna go kick it with your white family, go to church with your white family. You know, them black girls, they come with brothers, they like to fight. Yeah, yeah. They into it with cousins and anies and all. They hood, yeah. They tell me white families don't do all that stuff? No, they peaceful. You gotta, you must have went to a white Thanksgiving. So especially with the biz I'm in, you go go with a black girl and they hold family into this rap stuff. And that ain't this rap internet beef and then they listen to this and that, you know. So, okay, so the girl that now, just the mode three thing. So basically when she basically gets on there, is this something that you felt like, cause you seen it already, you feel comfortable with what she was saying with the honest truth or do you feel like she was just talking? I don't see anything set them up. She just mode three with two Bs to be over there. She said them, my baby daddy was jealous. So it pretty much she just told you what she felt and- Yeah, she said it on there. She said it on the documentary. Yeah, if he felt like your baby daddy was jealous, yeah. And was that the first time you ever heard anything she said? No, she didn't hear about it before. I've never heard her ramble on and off. Okay, I wasn't sure if you heard her. She was going to be mad at me at first and then you- That's what I was hearing. What you- But she don't know me, I speak the truth. You know what I'm saying? Nah, that's embarrassing. That's why I talk. But he don't be fucking with somebody like you. Wow. But as a manager, I always say you should have put a stop to it. You can't put a stop to what people fucking with. You can't, I can't follow him to this girl's house. You're a grown man. You're a grown man. So it's embarrassing that at the end of the day it isn't nothing towards her, but you should never have been dealing with somebody that with the jealous baby dad is in. You shouldn't even left your house. She should come to you. Was that the first experience where you felt like, and I know you and Mo through it was real close, where he was in a situation where the woman where he was like, ah, she ain't the one. I was, I was three, three, three years like that. Talk to shit. So you like to argue back and forth? Yo, baby, baby, baby. Three, like some girl girls. And them girls like to put the chop of their hands on me. So I like it. I like the girl mixed with white, you know? Yeah. It's peaceful in my house. So, so when you look at the documentary, cause I seen, I just watched Little Soldiers Slimed, Soldiers Slimed. I'm through the best one. And I'm just trying to figure out, you can't say that. No, Mo three is the best one. Mo three. Since he ever started this whole thing. Yes, because he's just, he only six episodes in out of everybody who done passed away. Mo three name is still the biggest out of all of them because it's still ringing. And there's so much shit on the internet behind the situation. You got, you got, you got ratchets. You got all kinds of shit. You got people anticipating albums. You got, they blaming this party. They blaming this. I was drumming behind the Mo three name and keep Mo three name ringing. You like, like really it's on the cool. You don't care about King Von. Now I'm a pop smoke. Now I'm like that no more, except for this documentary. But you help keeping his name alive, especially with the albums that coming up. Yeah. And when you tease in for the past year, saying it's for the drop and ain't drop yet. It's almost done. You've been saying that for the last half of long. I gotta get it right. God, God let me know. Sometime I woke up on my sleep the other day. Like, damn, I wouldn't go back and listen to some more songs. And then I flew to Houston the other day and I worked on it. And then I called a nigga and I found fly to New York and work on it a little bit more. And then by the time I get back to Dallas, I'm able to apply in the song. That's crazy because I'm like, with a documentary out or coming out, like this would be the perfect time to drop. Uh-huh. This is the perfect time to drop a single. We drop the, we drop in the toy lane. When does it come? The sixth, Friday, the 16th. It's coming Friday. Friday, the next day. At 12 o'clock that night, when the documentary go out, boom, you'll hear the mode three and two in line, so. Okay, let's talk about that. Cause I heard you say on say cheese that you spent 120,000. That cap or what? Yeah, yeah. You spent that. Yeah, then we're gonna spend another quarter of a million on promotion. On promotion. This will be huge. What's the difference between this one and the one you deal with, Marey? And you, when you- I ain't put the promotion behind. Okay. The only thing we did was, I kept on email the Obama and people around him and Obama posted it as one of the songs. Really? Yeah, he made Obama a song list. Wow. That's crazy. Did that help? No, it's just, it's hard. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. I know it's hard, but I'm like, did it? You are my numbers. The strings went up. Yeah, you are my numbers. The mode three and Marey in the stream just shut up. Oh, okay. Cause people who didn't know who mode three was. Like this, like this documentary. I'm gonna drop this. I'm gonna drop the Torrey Lane, the mode three song and all the shit going on with Torrey Lane. But Torrey Lane's gonna beat this chart. So I'm gonna make everybody look crazy. You know what I'm saying? Why you say he gonna be the charge? I mean, just the different facts I keep hearing. They saying that somebody else shot the gun down. Now we getting the facts. Yeah. Now we getting the facts. They don't look like him. They're saying that two girls were fighting before the end. They got witnesses. They got all kind of people testify. I'm saying that they found gunpowder on the one girl, on the other girl. Yeah. So Torrey Lane's, he talented as hell. I think they're top three in the world. And you feel like, you know, when you look at a Torrey Lane's deal for it, you liked working with him? Yeah. He wouldn't learn quick. Then I, he wouldn't learn did the song. Then I sit back and listen to it in the car. And the next day I kind of make some, hey, can we go redo this boy? Why? He said, I need you to put some more athletes behind it. So when I take their voice, I can put it out throughout the song. I need some highs and low. He was on FaceTime and he said, yeah, yeah. He understood what you exactly needed. He went back and learned did it. How often did you do that? Like with Mow Three was a lot of the difference. I heard you was really into when they would be in the studio. People say you was really, I think it was, Hands-on. It was a, my boy. What's that? Hit that. Hit that, say you was really into it. I'm my artist, I do that. You always give your- Oh, Mow Three? Oh yeah, we used to argue. They ain't, me and now I brain hit the whole, I brain hit the whole just for them to argue and be ready to fight, to be ready to fight. Cause they, I'm talking about, we had a full phone WWF match when we in the studio. And me and hit the end three in there, me and hit the whole, we a team up on three. And make them come out of the street mad, walking around there. The hill go record this and that, this and that. Then I get tired, I be on three side and then we team up on hit that. Cause he say, he was like, man, we used to get go in on Mow Three and we be like, that ain't hard enough and then it'll go harder. Yeah, it go harder, yeah, yeah. But see, when sometimes you just, I had to get away from our Mow Three partners. Cause they'll be, yes man, they go hard. Yeah, yeah, man, you just freestyling. Yeah. Come on, bro. Man, we wasting our time, man, we ain't shit. I told one time, nigga, you ain't, you nigga a little runny harder than you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he got mad. You got mad when three first started. You said a little runny harder than you. You runny harder than you, bro. You got throw the, he throw the ass, sir, you're hiding, you ain't nobody want to hear that shit you talking about. You go back and maybe, do you know what I had to do to keep my life so long? You got it. I got a question. So with the tour lane song that you're going to release, would you say that that one is the hardest one on the album? Not here, no. It's a commercial. That's the commercial. That's the one that's going to put the eyes on. There is commercial, but she is. Which song is the hardest song? Wait in the water or boost it? Oh, Negro's, uh, so. Are you going to drop that one before you drop the whole album? Or are you going to let that come out with the whole album? I'm going to let it come out with the whole album. So they got to wait for that. But how did you even reach out to tour lanes just to get, I want to hear that detail. I'm proud of you, twin. See, twin, that's the nigga that ain't mind me, twin, you know, I've been known for years. Okay. Right. Twin that wanted me to do, when I was 19 years old, twin that wanted me to do some illegal shit. You know, some street shit. Let me say some street shit. Right. But, you know, I wouldn't buy no street shit. I would just buy some white collar street shit. So he called my phone and he sent me a thousand dollars, you know, to drive down there. And I ended up going down the street right here to Bob Spring jail. He sent me the thousand dollars and said, I see you in the morning when you drive down here. So I went down the street. I got out and knocked on the door and they came through. I got wounds, man. I've been running for y'all for months. Take me in. So he took me in. And so I got out and I called twin and said, I got my paperwork. I got my paperwork. I went to jail. They took everything. They took everything. So a couple months later, I got the run in my mouth and some people know I ain't got down on 1000 dollars. I ain't talked to twin for like 10 years. Damn. He blew my phone up for years. And then me and three would be right. I said, that's that nigga twin. He said, yo, he want that thousand dollars back in the day, what you told me. So before I met him, I threw in that thousand. I said, man, I ain't talking to anything. So after three dials, I'm seeing the Miami. And I get phone calls. They like, twin want you. Tory Lane manager. I ain't Tory Lane manager. You didn't know he was managing him. Yo, I kept saying, I don't know Tory Lane manager. Everybody kept saying Tory Lane manager wants you. I called nigga. I called nigga. I said, hey bro, I got your thousand dollars. He said, I ain't giving them that thousand dollars. Don't pull up on me. I'll pull up all the money bag. Yo, name over there. Damn. He managed Boston Richie. You've been running from that all this time. I didn't even know. Like a dumbass. Didn't even know. No, this time is time. It happened. Look at now, like this was the perfect timing for him to meet and link with him. So that's the way it be, man. That's what got work. But you would think that because you knew the manager that you wouldn't have to pay 120,000. Nah, I'm going to pay so I don't owe you nothing. No, that's real. That's business. I don't want none free. I kept asking them, what you want? I don't want no hand up because I don't want you to ask me for nothing. That's going to be big for Tory Lane's right during the time when this stuff is going on. You about to drop this. Yeah, yeah, with Texas. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, with Texas. I want $1,501, nigga. I'm going to tell you maybe Texas him. Man, Carl Crawford, man, shout out, man. Carl is, Carl, hey man, Carl just was on here and he talked about that. He say, yeah, he could get his money back. He said he wanted to pay him, man. What was that word that he used? A line? No, it was some word he used to where the artist, they hadn't been paying him his portion of like the show money and all that stuff. He said he ain't got none of that from Megan, man. Not all this time. A vocal. He seemed like he really loved the music because I'd have been left alone if I was him. Nah, yeah, nah, that's your money you invest. Yeah, you already lost a lot of money trying to recoup all that. This rap, man. This rap ain't easy. Yeah, it is. Man, he catching hell with these folks, man. Yeah, nah, he going to learn from that. You said this rap is easy, but you keep saying I ain't going to do this no more. I'm going to change and do something else. Nah, he used to say that all the time. It's a stepping stone. It's easy, it's a stepping stone. It's too easy. It should come with it. So at the end of the day, you get your money. It took me six years to make a million dollars. Don't tell me, it took me, so I was 18, took me down to 12 years. You see, but the thing is that when people say they make a million dollars, a million dollars where you can put up and save it, you don't have to touch it, or a million dollars that you have to reinvest, you have to use back and pay this and that. The people talk about, oh, I made this, I made that. I made that. Did you genuinely make a profit of a million dollars? I made it just this year. So it came all at one time. Quit. I made it just this year. There you go. The other game's opened up though. Now it's time to, you still, when you make money, like I kind of agree with Dame Dash. When I make money, I'm trying to figure out something to do with it. He don't like it sitting. No. No, it's, when you start making money, it's easier to keep on making money. Yeah. I make 50,000 a week right now and just doing nothing. Just, you know, I know how to do it now. Yeah, yeah. I know the game. I ain't know the game a couple of years ago. I was doing pay to ship, me and Mo3 was selling CDs. And if I can call him right now and say, nigga, we ain't got to fuck them CDs, fuck them shows, fuck this shit. If he was doing all the stuff that you knew now back then. We wouldn't have, it wouldn't worked. Like, some things in life you have to go through to get to where you wanna go through in life. Like some people, if they had a chance to see their life and do what I love again, if they wanna go to the same spot, they'll say, no, I don't wanna go through that again. I don't wanna go through that again. I sure don't wanna go through that again, but they wouldn't be the person that you are. That's right. So you have to go through it. So it wasn't nothing that we could do to skip the process. Wow. And you were talking about Turley and all the stuff that he's going through right now. And I think about the music coming out during that time. What it made me think about is the R. Kelly and how the song dropped and how everything. They said that wasn't real, but it was old. I heard that he said he didn't drop it. But it was so crazy that it just fit exactly what. I admit it, but he tells you about it. You have you listened to it? What you think about it? Yo, R. Kelly and Bees. They gonna make them sell his masks. And they took it off of Spotify and all of that stuff. Once he sell his masks, they might let him out. Give up, you gotta give up some ass to give up everything, everything. Yeah, give up everything. And they don't want that. He don't want to have that then he can come on home. But R. Kelly being as big as he is, he gonna make everybody's back. Yeah, he could still come home and change. Cause he tells stories. Right. He gonna make everybody's back. You see Bill Cosby? Yeah, they try to get him again. But they say they try to lock him back up. I've read something the other day that I'd say two other girls from the public show came out and said. But that's too late though. You can't follow the time. They trying to sue him and the company. Sune is different than going to jail. They trying to get him. Yeah, but that's cool though cause at the end of the day let them come out with another fat album when you move it. Yeah, it's going crazy. I thought he gonna come out with one of these things. I wish he would. But he's gotten so old though. I don't think he just want to jail. It's his mind. You gotta bring your mind. Yeah. Let me ask you something. Go back to the Mo3 album. You said no cap gonna be on that thing? Yeah, no cap, boozey. Who else? Tory Lanez. I might be missing one. And how many songs? Like 13, 14. I ain't finished with it yet. But no cap. Man, he a different kind of animal. How did he meet? He would have been young back then when me and him and Mo3 did that. Four years, three years, four years. How old is he now? He's still young. He not. He was young. He was the first dog. That was when he first got here. No cap, no cap was the Mo3 fan. Yeah. So he, that was one of the first ones he wanted to rock out with. Was he good back then? Yeah. Have you talked to him about it? I had to drive to, I had to drive to I called a plane to Atlanta and drove three hours in the car with T-Rear. Listened to all his R&B songs. And then, and then went to the... Why you say it like that? Listen to all his R&B songs. Because you like messing with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, T-Rear R&B man. And then, and then I ran to no cap. How was it when you and him personally? I said, I need that Mo3 song. He looked at me and said, he just heard my voice. Looked at me and said, we just got to listen to it. He said, I said I needed it for them. He said, he said, hey, I'll give the right in the song. He called me if I need anything. It's clear. That's hard. And that was when he first coming on up. Nah, this was four months ago. No, this one you read, you wanted to go on and put it out. So you went down there, you saying now you just went down there. That's hard. Listen to all his T-Rear songs. That's the new one. Listen to all his T-Rear songs. Stop messing with T-Rear. T-Rear music, man. T-Rear, he got a good heart too, man. So what's different with this song for all of the like the Mo3? Mo3 got some cold songs, bro. What's different with the one that you doing now with no cap, the one that's going to come out? It's out. And he said, I'm going to remain the same to the day they bury me. Damn. Wow. That's all. That's real. That's prophetic, to be honest with you. This album, this album talking that shit. You think the album going to make a lot of people cry? Yeah, yeah. This is the one he says sitting in the dark and listen to the music. Yeah, and then I... Have you cried over it? Yeah, I'm putting it together. How hard is that listening to him over and over? Because you and him being so tight like y'all was. And I asked Mr. Lee the same thing when he was doing Pimp C's album afterwards. But you doing it over and over again, how does that affect you when you're dealing with it? I know what he want. There's a story of a guy reading. I know how he want it and where he want it. I know where he recorded every song, when he recorded every song. I can listen to a song and let you know what year it was. Wow, you were there at the time. You were just living it. Yeah, living it. So I know time frame he was in, what mindset he was in and everything. That's why a lot of people don't like me talking. Because I can listen to a song and say he was talking about you. Have you let a family hear it before? Like all the songs before you going to put it out? They ain't heard out of them. I ain't heard out of them. Are you going to have them hear everything before it goes out? Yeah. But I don't know what's out going on there yet. I just let the spirit, I just follow the spirit. Wow. And I know I really means a lot to you because like I said. Yeah, I ain't for the release, no bullshit. You ain't for the play with it. Yeah, all this bullshit music going around the city of Dallas. Dallas Nils ain't not. But I heard you say in an interview that he has three albums. You're like five. Is it five now? Yeah. Okay, so where does this one fall in the five that you thinking about putting out? Like is this one like not like you leaving the best for last? No, I ain't no leaving the best for last. The time period when you drop, we dropping shit. That's going to be like this next album going to be a fool. I got that whole your time remix. That's why I'm trying to figure out how do you pick which songs you're going to put on which ones. That's hard. And that's going to be on the next album. On the next album, yeah. All right, that's it. How do you pick which ones you're going to put on which album? I'm out of this period. It's hard to explain. Yeah. Like it's some songs on the last album. I said, damn, I should have kept it. Say that for this album. But like, man, y'all don't understand like God. It's like songs just be popping up. Like I couldn't tell you five months ago that we got a song with Tory Lanez coming out the day after 50 Cent dropped the documentary on MOT3. I wouldn't be able to tell you that because the 50 Cent documentary wasn't even thought of and Tory Lanez wasn't even thought of. So it's just like, I just follow the spirit. You believe strongly in God. Yeah, God let me know what time it is waking me up out of my sleep. You've never, have you always been like that? Yeah. Or just since MOT3 passed away? No, that's how I met MOT3. I was the jail, y'all. I went to prison. And every day I was in jail, I got on my knees and prayed. Like, like, you don't understand. Like, prayed, prayed. And a week later, God let me meet somebody like MOT3. I wanted to be a rapper when I got out. When I got out, I had a big old folder. And I could ask my mama right now. She probably heard me in the room just mumbling over her beats. Like, I thought I was gonna come home like a 50 Cent. And you remember to be the rapper. And a week after I got out of jail, I met him. For real? But then some people would look at your life and the things that you do and the things that you say and be like, you know, a lot of people love to judge. What can you judge me by? You know, and they look at you like, how you believe in God and you doing all the stuff that you be doing? What I do? The way how you be talking and all the mess that you be in and people be talking about people. We talking about how you be ripping people, you know, artists be talking about people talking about how you rip people off and all of that stuff. And not one person goes out. And how you janky and all of that? But not one person can say, I can give 100,000 out to one artist to say I ripped them off. Oh, um. Well, let me get in there. Lil' Will came on. Okay, there we go. Lil' Will came out, what, that was 2008. Okay. That was what? What was 2008? So you say you were a different person by man than you are now. That was 14 years ago. You just now came out and said it? What? Why all the other artists that went overseas didn't say that? Yeah. No, you just talking. All of, by the fact we went to Hawaii, then Lil' was locked up with me in jail. In Hawaii. No, in Dallas. In Dallas. Before I went, the time I'm talking about I was in jail. Right. Oh, okay. I didn't rip you out. You forgot I ripped you out then? Then after that, mode three, and I meant mode three. No, he said you ripped him off whenever you went over there. Why you just said that 14 years later? Yeah, he was saying that he had to go in the room and get the money. Yeah, no. Now you were writing the money in a trash can. No, no, no, that was my money. That wasn't under your money. That wasn't in your money. No, that was my money. So, did he steal your money? He didn't come to my room, no, no, wait a minute. He said he came to me and roughed you up, man. He found the money. Listen, listen, shut up. He just talking, he just talking. Listen, listen. Why nobody else came up to this door? I can't hit that right now. My phone's calling right now. My phone's calling right now. No, he didn't come in there with anybody else. He came in there. No, everybody would have known, hit that room was right connected to my house. Why's this? I'm a guy hit there right now. And he ain't gonna lie neither. That's crazy. He said that. He said he came in there and they searching for the money because you paid him half of the money already up front. He said, but then whenever you... He is the liar. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I don't wanna... But let me tell you what he, so whenever, whenever... I don't wanna watch this. Okay, hold on. So whenever you... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hold on. I know you're the Harlem kid. Let me ask you a question, kid. I'm right here with Boss Talk 101, right? What's up, my boy? Eat book. What's up, boy? So look, Lil Will told them when we was in Hawaii, I had scammed him out. I didn't pay him the rest of the money. He had to come to my hotel room and jack me up for the rest of the money. And they found the money in my trash can. He said I scammed him. I didn't pay him all the money. Everybody came to come to my room and jacked me out. He said he did. He did, he did. Hey, I put the plate together. He just had rain and running. So I didn't have to talk to nobody. He don't know that. It was hit the whole plate. Hit that, let me be the face of it. But hit the whole behind it. He don't know that to this day. So did he get paid his money when he got over there? He post got it up on arrival. Everybody got that money before we even got on the plane. Oh, damn. I'm gonna call you back. That's wild. Told you. Nigga, they be talking, bro. Ain't never got down on nobody. But they mad, because my percentage is big. My percentage, because I hustle, you know what I'm saying? So I'm part of it. I'm helping them. Have you and Will talk like y'all been around each other all these years? We was in jail. Now I'm talking about like three years. Yeah, no, no. You done seen him? Yeah, but one thing I have learned about the whole situation, people want you to make it just not farther than them. So at the time, you know, they wanted me to, they was cool with me, you know what I'm saying? Because I was under them. Okay. But then, you know, at the end of the day, then the whole MOT3 situation, and I learned that from three. I learned that a lot of niggas just, the lot of niggas just got hatin' and they hard. Okay. When you the man, and then somebody pass you up and you know, they come with all kind of crazy story, but I learned, that's how they did MOT3. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's why they're in the position that they in right now. You know what I'm saying? If you want to be real technical, I was more cool than with Spain. Spain was on here, that's my boy. I like Spain. Listen, Spain will too though. You're still cool with him right now because I saw that online where you told him to come to that show. Spain is, was the face of my dougie. Straight up. Right. Spain was the face of my dougie. When Spain was in jail, they didn't even know what to do. Straight up. Me and what's called me? But wasn't Spain or was it rude boy? I mean rude boy was the person really. But Spain was the face. Right. To this day, to Spain got in jail, they doing big shows, they like real coordinated. You need Spain, but at the time he thought he was bigger than that. Nah, you got to start, you got to start how you finish. I mean you got to finish how you start. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I ain't got nothing bad to say about people, you know, I got my teeth done and everything. I got pretty white teeth running and everything. So I ain't got nothing bad to say about people, but you know, I understand how three fell. Three fell like these thoughts in it, like, nigga, we was cool. Now all these old crazy stories, they ain't never seen me in off Dallas and this and that, now we, I had to go to the hotel room and Jack Reign up for my money. Come on. Man, that's sad, crazy. So, when you think about Dallas now and the way it looks to me, it's a quiet, it's a quiet stills. Like the music ain't, I don't have that one hit, man. They're not hungry no more. Listen, people think it's all about, people think it's all about music. They're not entertaining no more. And that's the hard thing about Dallas right now. They're not entertaining no more. They're not outside. They're not feeding the homeless though. They're not doing stuff that's outrageous. They're not buying kid shit. They're not, you know, they're not doing comedy. You know, they're not doing a lot of shit. There, you know, it ain't no drama behind you, but you know, you ain't no drummer behind. Or if he did this or he did that, like they all quiet and stay too smooth. So a lot of people are not hungry to even get to the next level. I learned people, people been saying in this for the last two years and I finally believed it. Like, they're like, he'll never meet another Motree. I probably won't. I really don't have to. No, you don't. But at the end of the day, the passion of me with this music, I love it. This is what I love to do. You know, I learned that I had to go to North Carolina to get us another successful audit because the passion, a person got to want it. I can't be around if you don't want it. I ain't even put my life in danger or even behind this rap shit. And they don't want it. How is, how is a baby seat doing? Thank you. Actually, we go to New York and do a Thursday. Like I want to be here when the. Documentary. Yeah, I'll be in New York. So I'm at the labor meetings and I'm back, I'm back doing that. Starting from ground one of them labor meetings. So they doing excellent. I really didn't want to do any business no more with the Dallas rappers. No more even people that was surrounded by Motree before he died. So I don't manage nobody else from Dallas or that I wasn't trying to transition. So Bump it, Bump it, Johnson, yeah. Bump it, Johnson. I like, I still like Bump it, man. But now seven and done now they, you know, they contract. My job was to do Motree with Motree died to help to get them a deal and get them in the dough. So you done with them? Did you do that? Did you get them? Yeah, I got a deal. They got the deal. I got one of the biggest deals in Dallas history. So are you through with them? Yeah, I still get currency out of the position that I put to me. But yeah, I'm a for the managing part. Yeah, I'm about done. It's a lot over. Empire got me on my own label. So you ain't even gone. They did not, they not joining that label. They were in party sign. No, I'm talking about far as I blessed them. They were empire. So they basically got a direct deal at direct access. Okay, I got it. I got it. You say you have a label now? Yeah, legendary label. Legendary. Yeah, yeah. So, so I seen on internet that people out there fighting about who the number one manager in Dallas and Dallas and this and that and that and that. Is it rain? No, I'm done with that period of time. I'm trying to have a number one label. Number one label. Yeah, that's a little, that was a little rain. But there ain't not many labels in Dallas anyway to compete with. Yeah, it is. How many labels? Sean Cotton got one and you? Yeah. How many more? We had up. Wow. That's it. That's it. That's how we had up like Pee Wee Football. I got it. So who's bigger? Sean right now. Sean been around. He just started his label though. It don't matter, but he been making some moves. Yeah, he got a year on me, 365 days. How many artists he got? Nah, he's dropping singles. I'm signing people to album deals. Oh, you're not doing singles? Nah, yeah, nah. Why? I'm trying to have cash money right here. Oh, really? I want to ask you about just, I got to ask you about this. I seen Charleston after you came on here and did the interview. And he seemed pretty concerned because you said that he was sick. Yeah. I'm just being, I'm just being. He explained it. He was gonna say cheese. He's trying to. He explained it for three months. So I mean, how are you and him? Are you guys back hanging out or? Nah, yeah, I never could. That was a period of time. Okay. I got an album to put out. I can't have it up when I'm walking. Hey, I need a feature for most to read and go out. No, you don't want that jacket. And you know, you know, that was a period of time, you know, like I said, he released it for free on his on his YouTube. Everything goes to his YouTube subscribers. Wow. And we have two different leagues. Like he tells me about it today. You know, everything Ryan got. Well, most of that because of me. I'm going to the Grammys every year. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You try to get in the bed too. And you ain't even getting the nerd. That's the easy. The first thing he was getting to. And so, you know, I'm going to the Grammys. And so he say, he ain't going to have no big billboard this year. So courtesy of you. Y'all can thank him. Charleston, when I go to New York Thursday, I got mode three in a tour lane. I got the biggest billboard down there at the Times Square. At the Times Square. Yeah. I got like the album coming out like 15 around Dallas. You trip me out when you said everything changed when I got the change. Everything changed. Boy, that change range ain't hard to them. I got to say, people want you to make it just that far that it is. Yeah, yeah. So people like you being underneath. There ain't no, there ain't no. But that's reality. A lot of people do that. Yeah. Ain't no wrong with, you know, we on to different levels. I don't want him to understand. You know, oh, you talking about a company show, 10,000 out there. They blow that up today. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? My order's in the arena. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, is he sick or is he all right? He said if he was sick, how he survived the gunshot. I heard that. So did you get shot out of nowhere? I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. He said, I'm waiting on him to say what I'm sick with so we go to school. What? You know, at the end of the night. At the end of the night, he had a little choice. Ray Water, man. So, so are you going? So what's the next step, man? I mean, after the Tory Lane, Tory Lane's in mode three and the album drop, OK, what's what's coming next? I had an album after the Tory Lane album drop then. I must do a book. I got a book deal. That's hard. And then I'm going to do a book deal. And then the book will come out. Then we'll drop another mode three album. And then that's when I start on the movie. The movie, when you say the movie, is this the movie that's going to be like, I'm going to go to AMC theaters everywhere and can see it? I'm going to tell it out. But do anybody go to AMC theaters anymore? Because everybody's been on Amazon. Everybody's trying to put it out. I got a bad-ass Netflix deal. Now, I got a bad, I'm directly talking to them. And that's why I was trying to put the documentary of Murder Changed Me on there. Yeah, that was another one, man. And appreciate you, man, because you linked us with Mama Snoop. That was all, I appreciate you for linking us and rocking out with us on that, man. That thing went crazy. She was hurt behind that a little bit, but she's a strong woman. So she ain't really let nothing nobody say about her get to her. You know what I'm saying? She's been through so much, man. Very spiritual. Yeah, very spiritual. But that Murder Changed Me, I mean, she was real serious about that. And she really- Yeah, we all were, man. I looked up, Charles and I'm drafted on his YouTube. Damn. And you could go for it. I didn't even know, because I don't be watching YouTube. Yeah, he dropped on his YouTube. He dropped on his YouTube? Yeah, man. Them people, them mothers coulda touched the world. Yeah, yeah. So did he still have it on there, or did he still have to take it down? I ain't got, you know what you're doing with it. It's done with it. It's out there. Damn. Like 40,000 views, 50,000 views. That's it? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I wanted to touch the world. Wow. So are you, okay. So the next time, I mean, are you doing anything for the Christmas, for the kids, anything? Yeah, on the 18th, let me see. Yeah, the Mow 3 Mama, let me see. You should just text me there. The Mow 3 Foundation, man. Y'all ever, on Thanksgiving, she had put together a good event where we went over there and fed by 500 people. That's all right. And on December 18th, 300 KK Street McKinney, Texas, they got a big old bike giveaway tour, giveaway tour drive and everything. So everybody, yeah, I get ready for that because if y'all got some kids, y'all can know some people you need. And it's in McKinney? Yes, in McKinney. And then, let me tell you. Is that because Mow 3, from his fat father and stuff, live up there and his mother, don't she live up there? Yes, she live up there. That's why they, you know, a lot of his background roots at. Yeah. So, yeah, it's gonna be big out there. And let me tell you how I did, you know, Thanksgiving weekend, you know, Thanksgiving, I told y'all I would go pay some people rents. Yeah, yeah, sure. And you did? Yeah, I paid two people rent them. I got a cold camera thing, it's been coming out. And the last person, you know, I walked in there. Were they expecting it? No, they didn't know. I was picking around the people. Oh, okay. And I walked in there, they didn't know it was coming, so I knocked on the door. I go, she go open the door. I remember, we carried y'all as a family, me, all coming, he helped y'all out. I was like, come on in. Right. I seen the size of 11 shoes sitting over there, so it was a nigga over there somewhere, right. And then there's a PlayStation 5. Ooh. Right. So they just not, hey. It was kids running around too, but I don't know what kind of kids. Y'all looked in the airstrikes and some doobies. Yeah, doobies too. Doobies. Yeah, them big old baddies. Did you decide not to do it? Yeah, I walked out. Yeah, cause you know. So she didn't say, hey, hey, weren't you supposed to do? I snuck out. You snuck out. Yeah, cause you know I read that nigga over there. Yeah. He ain't doing nothing. Yeah, and y'all smoking blunts. Yeah, they kicking it. Kicking it. The kids running around just, yeah. You're not put, I've heard of situations where people don't be paying a bit, but they have all the brand new clothes. People just don't know how to. Nah, they're money. Nah, it's the people in need. So y'all know people in need in Christmas. Y'all tell me real need. Yeah, come on. I ain't got no, I mean, and I hate it for the kids. I'll be on the call of police. I want to call the police on them. CPS. Yeah. Cause some nigga over here smoking blunts, kicking and playing his place. That's a five with these kids running around here. And no women should be ashamed of themselves. Y'all women, if y'all don't have, y'all don't need to have no kids. If y'all can't take care of these kids. And some of these women, they having kids, they having kids for the hell of it. They looking for love. Yeah, yeah. Some women just looking for child support. Real talk. That ain't shit. Not at all. Yeah, right. So I really want to call the police on some of these people. If they ever see me running water snitching, y'all want to call the police on some of these parents that don't have no reason to have any damn kids. I got to ask you about... You taking care of all your kids? Yeah. I got to ask. Yeah, everybody stay with me. I got to ask you about... Everybody stay with me. I have some old kids. I'm trying my best. Everybody stay with me. You like this? Everybody can't stay with you. Y'all, you see home alone? So, okay. So let me ask you a question. You said everybody. Are you having all these kids by the same woman? Y'all, I done slipped up over the years. Okay, so everybody can't stay with you because the mommas can't stay with you. Man, I built... But the mommas... Man. It was something I was going to ask you about, man. I know I was going to ask you about taking care of the... You know, as far as the... Doing things at the first of the year, I definitely got to have you back on the shelf, for sure. Nah, I mean, I have slipped, though, but I apologize, though. I ain't did a lot like I should be for Raleigh kids. I bombed someone once a year. Okay. I do, I bombed someone once a year and I just sit back and thought about it. Yeah, and I pee while I leave, man. I sit back and thought about it. Today, riding around, I'm like... Everybody be... My three kids feel too rich. Yeah, yeah. Retarded rich. Yeah. They got more money than a lot of the people that is. But I think the word in the city of Dallas got about Raleigh. And I'm talking about him as much as... I get where you're coming from, too. Yeah. Yeah. Who is there to keep his name alive? It's up to me. You understand what I'm saying? It's like how you keeping three names alive? And then I forgot about Raleigh. I ain't forget about Raleigh. But you was going through something, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know... How old are his kids? Really got a twin, really got five kids. So every year I do try to buy him something. And then people... I remember them saying that... Well, Raleigh don't do this for this kid. Raleigh and this kid, well, the focus should be on Raleigh kids. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? His movie that was on... Before he died, that was on Starz last week, last month. I'm sitting there watching him with his movie, Raleigh pop up in the movie. Yeah. And I know where it's like, I said, yeah. And that's why sometimes I'll be mad if I see that Dallas, I say. Sometimes y'all heard me say, fuck Dallas. But when Mo3 passed away from Chris Gold to even Big D the mogul, like when you went on his show, your numbers went crazy on that show. You basically wanted to reason, like a lot of times. Ratchet all of them. Yeah, but when you look at what you've done during that time, it helped, to me, it helped shine light on a lot of the blogging. Yeah, like he's my partner, like the right now negative son. Yeah, I've seen that. Your negative son was a single father. He raised a little girl by himself. And you know, it's a lot, it's one thing I can't say about this and how we connect. I connect with this type of people. Mo3 fans go through something. Yeah. They be going through something. But it's because you, you, you was loving the way he talked about that pain, but that connect with people. Yeah, so negative son, yeah, nobody knew that he was a single father. He had to wake up, take his little girl to school, kiss the bus to work, ride the bus back. You gonna pick her back up? And he could drive too, but he hopped the bus every day. Why is this single father, where's the mom? She was no good, she left from there, she didn't care. You didn't really see his face until after all that stuff started happening. Yeah, she didn't care. So the negative son was a good person. He was a crazy. But he gonna get out though, ain't he? Mm-mm. He got the, that's a shoe, mm-mm. Who's taking care of his child now? I don't know. And I know he ain't caught, he ain't caught nobody from right now, so I know he probably feels it. So he ain't caught nobody? Uh-uh. I knew something was wrong, cause he, it was about three, four weeks went by. And he normally call you? Yeah, he ain't gonna call him. He always call him mad at me to see that Dallas fucked up, bro. I made it one day, he was mad at me. Yeah, they too. Said, he think he wanna be a celebrity, I'm like, man, I can't believe he, I don't know nobody, but my fan, you know who went in on him for me? The people who shopped this stone, cause I'm just a regular nigga, you know what I'm saying? It was my people, but it's because a lot of people, I'm gonna be honest with you. Some of my brother told me earlier today, people don't really hate on people that ain't doing better than them. Is that real? That's what you were saying earlier. They want you to make it. Just not farther than them. So I never do trip, like when people talk, I know, I hear a lot of things, people tell me all this stuff about us, because we, you know, the numbers going up, I never pay attention. I'm too busy focusing on like you and trying to get with the people who I know, you know, that's connecting with the show. Cause I feel like if you focus on other things, you lose where you at. You can't focus on that. You're right. Am I right? So I'm gonna call y'all up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think I don't know where his daughter in there. I hate it for him. Well, you gotta try to find that out because he was linking with you. He didn't link with everybody. Yeah, I'm in the middle of one time. Oh, you're on the middle. He was real secluded like with his situation. Yeah, I'm real secluded. Do you know his mama? He always say he was in his world by himself. What? Nah, he was real. Yeah, he was real in the vision. Did you know where he lived? Nah, I knew his apartment. I didn't know where he was at. Oh, okay. Wow. I was gonna say you should go by there and go, you know, check and make sure. Try to find out where the baby at. I think God has a way. You got you got to understand, though, the people to pick up, bro. Yeah, I know. What do you mean? I'm talking about the government, the CPS and all that. They'll take them in. You know what I'm saying? But you don't want that child in the system, though. You don't? But what do you do? You can't leave that apartment? Yeah. Oh, she's seven. She's just seven. Oh, six? She was a young baby. So I think it happened right in front of her. Really? Yeah, because he was at that trampoline. He always with her. Yeah, everybody with his daughter. But the place where he was, it's a kid-friendly place. So you know that that's what it was. Wow. That's crazy. I ain't gonna even ask you because I didn't ask you about takeoff and all that stuff because you ain't been on here since then, but so many times people ask about that stuff, man. But I can't say the guy that they done picked up when it did happen. I wouldn't never. Ain't he a DJ or something? Yeah, a DJ. That's my partner. So you know the dude. How long you've known him? I like Popeye. He's the first person to brought Moe 3 to Houston. He's the first person to interviewed Moe 3 in Houston on 93.7, the radio, the box with OG Run C. So you know him? I know him, I know him. Do you think he's capable of doing what they said he did? I know he is, but I know he gonna do it for a reason. So you don't, oh God get it. One guy came in the club and I think they was trying to shoot him and he ended up killing him. He already got a murder, had a murder. He already caught a body. Damn. So you think his life was because he was more self-defense? I know. I could see the look on his face. It looked like he not worried. Then they came and said he needed a private investigator. Another question, who shot first? So you think he gonna get off? Yeah. Pass more. Pat wouldn't just do that. Wow. So I think, man, like I said, with all the rap, they don't have an alarm in how many different situations altogether is always happening around the rap world. I don't want no more rappers as beefing. But you don't say it a lot of times, like who want to be a rapper? Put their kids in it. Yeah, you don't want to be a rapper. I don't want to be no rapper, no rapping as beefing. They don't start off beefing. It comes, it's like they're doing good and as you rise up, the beef comes. So you can't say that. But you just gotta know how to conduct yourself in. And you say you can't control them? You gotta know how to conduct yourself and then you gotta understand what a rapper want and what they surround themselves into around. What they surround themselves with. So at the end of the day, you upcoming rappers, if you involved in beefs, you can't go to no club to promote your shit. You can't go to, no album release parties. You can't go talk to no DJ. I don't want them type of rappers. I don't want to have to do it and I know you ain't gonna do it for yourself. Would you ever drift out of the genre of rap and deal with more maybe country or R&B or? I'm kinda understanding. I'm understanding now. I understand the bigger picture. When you get a little money, you know, everything is gonna change. Yeah. I wanted to ask you about Dizzy Banks and that I've seen him in a video with. Did you set that up? Well, did you know about that with Mothry? Oh, Mothry, Mothry Boothson, I made the phone call. Well, how have you, with his career, the way it's been excelling, like he got his show, he doing his comedy shows, do you, did you expect to see him rising like that? Yeah, Mothry was a real friend. He kept coming back, ranked in contact with Dizzy. So we pulled up and reached out everything in the hotel parking lot. The little blue car that was working on it on my car. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's still cool, look. Two people, matter of fact, the realest people that I have met being in this entertainment business or the comedians. So there's in DC? Yeah, they see it real new. DC seemed like a real, he really enjoyed being around Mothry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they laughing. They talking, they laughing, just going on each other. DC, after Mothry died, DC was the first person to reach out, he said, bro, I made this month but Mothry, I cannot get it to y'all. Wow, that's heavy. Yeah. So nobody else was doing that like that? Mm-hmm. No. No, yeah, no. That's 100, bro. Yeah, they see it real, man. I always see him, man. Them boys, man, shout out to Carlos Miller because you know, he been on Boss Talk 101, but I gotta get DC Young Fly and Chico Bean. I like all three of them. Yeah, that's right. Now Carlos, I fuck with Carlos. Carlos go like the bitches but man, you know, them comedians be the realest boys, man. Yeah, yeah, I like them, like it be them rappers. Yeah, it be them rappers. It's like they gotta act like something. Just be yourself. Yeah. Laugh, talk, you can show people you're family, man. Man, I think Kevin Gates did that a lot though. He showed people he was a family. Yeah, some of them rappers, they be trying to boost it. Boost it, do that a lot. Yeah. But let me ask you a question, does it come with, cause you know, when you think about rap, a lot of stuff come with rap and we blame a lot of things on it. When you see all these different killings and murders and whatever, you see it in the rap industry, you don't see it in a lot of other music genre, but is it black rappers or is it, like do you see that in other rappers of other ethnicities? Yeah, I'm starting to see it now. I had this white boy from Arkansas, come on my damn live top of the shit. His teeth, and I go back, he got diamonds in his teeth, and I go back and look at his Facebook page. His teeth were pretty white straight. Why you got them diamonds in your mouth? Take that shit off. They're trying to be good. Let's talk to the fat boy. Take that shit off. They're trying to be good, man. They feel like rap comes with a certain image. That's what they feel. Nah, look. But it's changing now, because everybody's getting them veneers now. A lot of people taking out them grills and stuff, everybody doing veneers. Except one of my old rappers came to Dallas. He needs some. He took the money, so he got some veneers. Let's see a while. Especially the Caucasian white boys. They don't have to act good. The number one Caucasian rapper, the white boy that ever came is Eminem because he was his fucking self. That's real. The number one rapper in the rapper, 9 Dallas Texas, in the world right now is Drake because he's his fucking self. That's real. That's hard. I need that acting. I need that hard. If you just be yourself. That's it. Just be yourself. They won't do it. Niggas throw their life away trying to be like a thug. They won't do it. Yeah. And that's the funny thing, Drake because of who he is and how he moved, you would think that a lot of people would look up to him and try to be like that, but they're not. No, they won't be. They want to be the gangster. Well, I done seen Niggas, Sibley, and that shit don't do, you ever seen Sibley before? That shit don't do this shit to me. You tasted it? Yeah, they don't do shit to me, but Niggas don't. You don't get high or not. No, I don't, I be thirsty. I was drinking the shit out of that shit when that thing said, you ever drink that shit that foul, thirsty as hell. And look, people would drink that because that's the trend to drink it. If that don't do nothing for you, that's not for you. People will go drinking and fuck up their kidneys for no reason because they want to fit in. Wow. Niggas will put them diamonds in over they got their mouth, over they down, over they down teeth. Now they teeth riding. Let me, I want to go. But veneers, they shave down your teeth when they do veneers, don't they? Yo, but you can laugh though. You know, you can put the implants in there, shout out to BK and Todd of Decay, put the, take them out, put the implants. That's cool. You know what I'm saying? But you'll get them all riding their diamonds in your damn mouth and put them over your teeth. Your teeth is purely white. What are you doing? I want to ask you about the documentary before you get out of here. I just want to go back to it. Now, Mothrie's mother, man, who I think out of all the mothers, I just, for some reason I'm drawn to her, seem like she's like real cool. I'm being real, seem like she real, and she love the music. I love that song she put out. What, that last year? Around this time? That's the call to put out the money this year. Cause she did, she put it out. What's the name of that song? It was a song. No weapon. And it was spiritual. I love that song and I love, that's what brought me to her. Which I know she a superstar in her own world, though. I didn't know that. She sang in churches. Aw, man, that's hard. So that's where he get that singing from? Yeah, she break churches down. Really? She a celebrity and they know them. She come up to them film and she go break it down. Can I see her sing on YouTube somewhere? She ain't that type of person. No, I like somebody get it. Her songs, they see her songs. You talk to her about that song. Yeah. She was the one that came out with it. They kept it in the mix and then once it got to me, I thought I thought it was making it perfect. We go call a prophecy. We go change the beat and then, you know. Oh, yeah. Cause you wanted to make sure. I kept saying they gotta be perfect. We gotta be perfect. But now she, yeah, they don't feel nervous. Oh, yeah. Was she on the documentary? Yeah. She is. So she spoke about certain, you know, that, that, cause I, you really don't hear her speak much. Yeah, she's on there. That's hard. I don't know. Excited to watch that. That's daddy. That's daddy. That's dad was on there too? Is there anybody on there that we would have never guessed that would have been on there? Duke Farrow. He on there? Yes. Why? I don't know how the hell he don't got on there. He ain't no three like that. He didn't know three. Uh-uh. Anybody else that you disagreed of them being on there? Nah, it's Skye. Skye on there, the publishers, she on there. I mean, she was a publisher in Dallas, she on there. And everything that was said was factual to your knowledge? Nah, I was in Boots. You did there with Thumbnail. Like, what did you not agree with? Everything not going to be perfect though. I know, but what did you not agree with that somebody said? Y'all just watch the number come back and tell y'all. Because we at the end of this interview, so this part going to be like part 22. So then, then I just come back for part 1 to part 22. Yo, you know, you got a whole series about to come out, yours going to drop because I will never drop your poems a lot of time. I know you know. I'll be holding them back because I know already when I drop them, I'm growing my numbers and people going to be like, tune in, tune in. People don't understand that. When people be like, I want to come on your show, I want to come on your show. I'm like, if you wait longer when our number, more people see you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, real talk. But I'm just telling you, man, kudos to you, man, for even playing part in doing the things that you do when it comes down to keeping this legacy alive. Hey, the hardest. You're the super talented, bro. But the hardest thing to do, they got to rate me number one when I was a manager, I ain't no manager no more. But the hardest thing to do is put together this manager rapper that's not here. That's something. Hardest thing, and people are not understanding that because you know, I only beat some of this and I got a whole documentary myself coming up. We putting this album together. Wow, that'll be hard too. Oh, it's a bad motherfucker. But all these songs I couldn't use. Why? The Beats Out outdated, This Out outdated. It was a where Motri recorded a lot of songs. We couldn't get a lot of fast for those songs. We still ain't got a lot of fast, like over a hundred songs. They holding them. So I got to work what I got. Yeah. Can you change up, not say change up a song, but say he did a song on an outdated, now outdated beat. Now I gotta find the files. You can take his boy vocals off and put it on a newer beat and switch it up. That's what I do, I get the acapellas and then I send them to like five different producers and then whoever we in. That's where we're gonna come in. So I had a producer that they said, if Motri was here, you wouldn't be doing this shit. He wouldn't be doing this shit. I know, because. Because he wouldn't agree with you? No, because he wouldn't have to. He wouldn't have to. He would have to, yeah, yeah. No, no, but like a lot of songs he did three, four years ago, that's outdated. If he was here, he would have picked that song three, four years ago, going to the album, he didn't. So now I got to work what I got. Who the hardest producer in Dallas? Who? The hardest. Who? Who the hardest producer in Dallas? Yeah, that's my, that's me. And nobody harder than who? I don't think, nah, nah, yeah, nah, because I can call this nigga in the middle of the night, he's gonna jump up and make a beat. He own it. Oh, he just made Bumpy was a beat. I heard you said something on an interview that with this new album that's coming out, a lot of his street guys gonna be mad about it because it's not that type of album. It is, but it ain't. How many street songs are on this album? Or will be on this album? Like three. And the rest of it, so that's all the 10 is what? It's commercial. The girls go like, it's another crowd go like, it's gonna show how talented he is. There's a lot more singing on this. Nah, it's the rapping, but he talking about like, he's talking about the aftermath of the street wars he went through. Okay. Like, like he talking about, like a lot of these songs was when he went, got out the street wars of North Dallas. Do you think that these songs gonna change people's lives? Yeah. Yeah, cause they go understand and understand. I'm a preach to him. I'm gonna tell him. I watched the, I watched the person, more three, more three life. He, he did his purpose in the world. He told his story and touched lives. And now it's your job to help him get it after, help my purpose. Now he the number one rapper that ever came through that. Do you think that your job will ever be done? Because with the five albums that you said, that's gonna come out and knowing you, you're gonna stretch this out 10 years. Nah, I ain't gonna do that. But after all of the five is done, are you gonna just be done with mode three now? Uh-uh. Then we got the move. You're gonna keep his legacy alive. So you have enough things that you can keep his legacy alive for the rest of. Nah, I just seen, I just seen a while ago, over 50 hours of unseen footage. I know that with my boy. You know, I'm the only one ever interviewed him. I always say that. You know that, right? I just didn't know that. I said bro. Prophecy film. Shout out, baby. That was 2012. That's the first time I made mode three. I got there right there. Damn. You got it all. What? I believe it. I got a real documentary then to come back with this movie. I'm gonna tell the whole story. Wow, you can narrate it if you wanted to. And then people around him gonna be so mad. Wow. People be like, he gave me a chance and after he died, I ain't even know him with it. I got to... That's real. Because he the best person I'm gonna put it on my page. He's the best person that ever came out of Dallas Ticks L in hip hop. He's the only person with a billion streams, a billion plays on his YouTube. He got the only person to have a gold album. I used to have a DOC didn't have a gold single album with him by itself. He got three songs that's double platinum. And Post Malone never had it? I'm not sure. I don't look at Post Malone as the core of Dallas. Because he moves, he's a person that was Dallas Ticks's from the day he came in the rap game to the day he died. And yeah, it's the... And when he died, the whole Dallas Ticks's wasn't the same. If Post Malone died right now, we're gonna be still the same. It ain't gonna impact us. But my three died, it's still like the same. I got to ask you about, you called me one time, you said, man, I'm gonna go into this clubhouse with Wagg 100. Yeah. And when you went on this clubhouse with Wagg 100, they got all these people on there and they started talking from different, I don't know if it's a cheerleading squad. I don't really, I don't understand how he do it. But it's like all these people in the room, I've never been on a clubhouse in my life, okay? But I'm like, dang, so I listen to it the next day when it come out on you. And I hear y'all go back and forth, man. How do you feel like you came out when it come down to dealing with Wagg 100 one-on-one? I lose, but I win. Why? Because I lose it, you can't win in that atmosphere, but then you win by, everybody know your name and they're in your point. That makes sense. I got out of there and told them, everything negative on your page. Y'all was on your building, Nicky on Clubhouse, so that's the truth. He got a big platform and don't help overcoming orders. Wow. So how do you end up being on there with him? Do we call you as people reach out or what? How do you, I'm gonna be on the clubhouse with this nigga at night. His people used to impact me, so like Wagg want to talk to you. Wagg want to talk to you, Wagg want to talk to you. Then I get on there to be him, end up in the argument. But I know why he mad. Cause you know, I want to lie, I saw him double platinum now. So he still trying to figure out how you beat him out? Yeah, he was go like that chain on your neck. So he didn't see that coming. But he says that he promoted it, if it hadn't been for him doing his version, it's always a place where he feels like the version you have, you had came out and then Hills came out a while later. And right? That's the way he think it happened. He came out. But you say, no, y'all knew my version was just y'all tried to steal the song. No, they tried to override my song. They tried to override it. They tried to, he knew Blue Faith was a big, a big, bigger artist in MOT3. MOT3 was here, so he wasn't here to promote it. So he was like, we used to still drop eyes and he go do what they do. I'm going to pay for this radio. And then, you know, I was going to be bigger. But, you know, at the end of the day, MOT3 friends came through. Yeah, you did. Shout out to Bobby who gave us the opportunity to, to me and Wagg to get the money we got and in the place we got off that song. Wow. So you shouting Bobby billions out? Yeah, shout out to Bobby billions, though, because he gave us, we already trained on this song. So do you think you and Bobby billions ever, ever, ever link again? Uh, I had a conversation with Bobby, not too long ago. That's hard. What was that conversation? She into that. I'll try and see how humble he was. He humble, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ain't gonna say he humble when you ain't get the other. When he not what. You play too much. I needed him to do something. I need, I need him to do something. I got the farthest thing. He did it for you? I ain't need a number. I thought I heard it. I was trying to see how humble he was. Oh, then you just wanted to see how humble he was. I'm, like I said, every time I met him, he seemed like a cool dude. I guess he wasn't as humble as he wanted him to be. Yeah, he was. That's why I was proud of him. Oh, OK. You ever whooped one of your, you ever whooped some ass around your house and you go back in that room and say, you see I'm sorry, you better not do it again. You go do it again. I'll make sure you still remember that ass whooping. I'll try to make sure you remember that ass. So do you think you ever rock out with him again? Nah, yeah, nah. Never do no more music with him. My partner kid got to see that in the years. Goodbye. So you feel like it was really a plot to stop the movement of mode three. Yeah, he tried to. Yeah. Portion or that sort of thing. Mode three, you know, he was over, he was overribe by the mode three now. Everybody who went against mode three happened to do nothing. He proved that. I've been checking out everybody. It's been silent in Dallas. I do know that everybody. I mean, it ain't like it's up to the people that even the people around mode three. It's been kind of, it's been kind of quiet compared to the hits that used to come out. Man, these niggas brand, brand, I get away from these niggas, man. Like I say in the way around. What about Big X? Is he is he the one? I thought I talked to him. I talked to him and he'll be. His voice is dope, bro. Not cool, but it's a, he got a lot of confidence. So I start playing. He got, he could do it, bro. It cool. You think he can do it? And then I let tweak so. Got a little tweak so. Don't get caught up in that thing. That thing, that thing was right. Yeah. It ain't easy as it man. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. Don't get caught up in the fame. Fame was right. Yeah. He stood. This is the Mavericks guy right here. You know, he goes in. This is Mark Cuban. This guy be at the games. But they all got caught up in it. They all get caught up in it. Man, listen. The Tuzi's, I remember 10K, 10K, he was how'd I call that nigga, tell that nigga, man, this nigga, nigga, he was talking that shit. Mo, by the fact, three call to 10K to come to the house of blues, right? And that's when 10K was hot. So he invited 10K, tell him to come to the house of blues. And so 10K said, I am nerd. So we made a fly for 10K. He called three back and said, now, now, now, I ain't performing. I charge for it. I swear to God. I swear to God. And I'm sitting there saying, nigga, yo shit, that's a season. You couldn't tell him that. Did you tell him don't bother to even come? I don't love him. Yeah, don't go in and come. I don't love him. Gutter TV took all the parties over there. I don't ever talk. I already talked. I was cool with a lot of them. I'm cool, Molly, Molly and my partner. You know, it straight up, Molly and my partner. They thought they all made it. I don't love them. Don't get caught in a fight. Even the people out there, I got them a deal. Just last year. Don't get caught in a fight. All three people did, I got a deal for an empire. So do you think they did not stand hungry? You got to know what you want in life. Some people don't know what they want in life. I want. Some people get that upfront money and think, No, it ain't about the money. It's the fame. The fame. See, some people lose their mind over fame but really they ain't really got no money. Damn. So you got to know what you want in life. That's real. And what you chasing. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people, majority of people always say, I just want enough that I can supply for my family. I can put my mama in the house. I can do that. That's the main thing a lot of people. Yeah, y'all don't know about this. That's the generic. I'm trying to take over the world. That's real. If you comfortable with still sitting here in Dallas, Texas, and you know, you got a better, then you can go get your warehouse job and become the manager for 17 years. You're gonna work it for your life. But is the music enough? I'm thinking about branding. I've been telling my wife that today, I'm like, that brand got to be popping. The whole brand. No, it's talent, it's talent enough. Talent is, talent is talent enough. That's what we were talking about. Talent enough. Your talent don't have to be enough. It could be your ground. That's what I'm thinking. You don't have to be the most talented person. You just got to out grind the rest of the crew, the pack. I always think about George and then when they were passing out them damn CDs and pushing that stuff on people. Man, I'm thinking one talent, they was yelling. Boop jumping out, yeah. Yeah, they was yelling and yelling, but George put it in their people face. I bought a bunch of that stuff, man. Yeah, Mike Jones. Another one. He really couldn't rap like that. But he put it. I don't know about that. I like Mike Jones, man. I'm just markable and killin' me. I think he'll rap, man. But I named three Mike Jones songs. Man, that nigga had the first round draft picks. Who is Mike Jones? It was the next one. That did good. That did good. Cutty. So you don't even know. Yeah, that's Cutty, ain't it? What was his number? 2-8-1-3-3-0-8-0-0-4. Yeah, I think about it. He branded his number and branded himself. And he branded who Mike Jones, who Mike Jones. That error was a different error. They were makin' money off them albums. That nigga was rappin' on everything that come out. Yeah, but he branded himself by his number. That's what everybody knowin' for. All the kids. Who was young? Man, that rapper just gave out his number. We up the collar. Everybody in here got it. Yo, we up the collar. So these niggas ain't brandin' theyself. They don't know how to brand theyself. That's what I think about a lot. Cause I'm like, man, rapping gon' be enough. Everybody rappin', man. Everybody. Everybody rappin', so that's the end of the day. I made it cool that it's the new interview. Are you killin' the interviews though? But you talkin' about everybody. Everybody can't do interviews though. You can't say that. It might be cool, but. No, it may be cool, but everybody can't deliver. Yeah, but I'm sayin' I made it cool for. After all, I'm sayin' I have kinda people just doin' the interviews now, like. I have kinda people. But you gotta think about it. Podcasting has become a thing now, so you see platforms everywhere. Bob's Supreme ain't nowhere on my motherfuckin' level. Oh, damn! Bob's Supreme! Bob gets the big shout out. He just gave the boy the big shout out. I don't think that's crazy, man. He said you sent that letter, man. I mean, that, uh, text, man, and said he was the police, man. I don't know people neighborhood with them cameras. Take your ass home. You know what? You be messin' with Supreme, man. I don't know people, I don't know people what's called some damn cameras. Take your ass home. Since you're running a label now, and you've been in this business a long time. Your bio come feelin' for me. He doin' the, he doin', that's what he doin', he doin' a document. He did him a documentary. Yeah, he didn't go, yeah, come follow me. Dude, I mean, would you ever work with him? Would you ever sit down with Supreme? Yeah, I already let me know your handle. But y'all might, y'all never met like that. How y'all used to talk a little bit, but y'all never just hung out. I already, you already seen the call. Bro, it's so many people in my phone right now that, hey Ray, I wanna work with you, work with you. I'll, I'll, they sent me $10,000 and I work with you. Man, they sent me $10,000. What I get out of $10,000? Nothing, you just get my attention. Man, no bitch, you this and that, you this and that. That's why Mode 3 was this and that and that. I'd bring the hate out. I'd rather bring the hate out of them before I even work with them. I get it, because you're working with them. I know who they are. You know who they are. You know what I'm saying? I ain't mad at you for doin' that though, because you will see if a person won't put skin in the game. I know that from working with people. Yeah, but a lot of people do that though. Somebody else came in on a show and said they did that. Everybody should be doin' it to be out with you. They wanted to work with somebody and he said, Give me a thousand dollars. That was Sir Charles Jones in Bad News. Yeah, that's what it was. That he went, he went, he said hold on, let me go get it. He went and got the money. He went and got the money and gave it to him. The people that go get the money and this and that, because at the end of the day, they were like, bro, you want some money? I understand, because a lot of people, you think I'm finna stop what I'm doin', invest my time into what you got goin' on, but you wanna invest yourself in what you got goin' on. Exactly. That's real. You know what I'm sayin'? I'm finna stop what I'm doin' and invest my time, but you ain't finna do the same thing for yourself. Which you earn a label. How important is it to pay for advertisements? Do you believe in that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when I say paid for advertisements, I mean like, you have an artist. I pay the bloggers. No, I'm sayin', hold on, you have an artist, because I see so many artists who are buying views, buying followers, buying all of that to look a certain way, to capture with the labels, to look at them, capture an audience. What's the importance of doing that if you can look at that and you see in the- You remember that one dude came through here? I remember him. I know exactly what you talkin' about. That what happened to him? Kate talking- Kate talkin' about the name. Kate talkin' about the name. What about a million views he had and Drake inboxing him and shit? Yeah, there she gon' come back around on ya. Keep it solid. Keep it solid, right now. Why is everybody doin' it if it's not beneficial? They not chasing the raptorine, they chasing the cloud. You gotta understand what you want. You gotta understand what the raptor want. So, you know, sometimes you gotta understand what type of level they are. So it doesn't bring the labels? The labels don't look at that? No, no, it doesn't. If you go through your comments, if you go through your goddamn followers, and you haven't seen a number of Indians and white people and all kind of shit, that people don't talk, yeah, you boss them out. Yeah, you right. I ain't lying, I see it. Obviously, I be like, damn, I can't go that route. I done been asked by people, too. And he had a million followers. And ain't nobody. I ain't heard from him. I ain't heard from him. Have you ever been doin' that no more, huh? Damn. Wouldn't go ask a million people to follow him. Man, thank you for comin' on this show, Ray. Hey, man, thank y'all for likin' and subscribing to our channel. I also appreciate y'all for gettin' us to 100,000 subscribers, man. Share a page, please. Sharein' our page and all that, man. Ray, man, appreciate you, man. You was a lot. You built that page up a lot with me, man. You always come through, man. Show love to us, man. And thank you. I appreciate you. You're welcome. We're gonna rock out with you, though. We ain't even done that yet. We gotta do somethin' that's gotta be big for Ray, though. Well, you know, Ray, we might have to do somethin', you know, we have to throw a party. Ray, you used to like a party. That was a promotion. That's all it was. It's always about the business for you, man. Man, check it, man. So, how can people get a hold of you? I gotta say, do the thing. He don't want nobody to get a hold of you. How can people get a hold of you, man, if they wanna get on your label, man? You just gotta see them? Yeah, you can run into them, man. If you outside, I'm gonna run into you somewhere. Man. Cause you outside. I'm outside. I'm outside every day. I can't help myself. Man, check it, man. Hey, man, it's been another great, great episode. Of Boss Talk 101. Bam! Boss's talk. Bam! And we out.