 And I'm Gaia. And welcome to Tenors Talking. Today we're here talking about Good Feminism by Mickey Kendall. So, just reasons both. What was like your favorite thing about it? Honestly, I loved how open she was about talking about the differences in feminism for people of color versus like white people, like white women. And I think it's really cool that she had experiences that connected to feminism to the point where she was able to talk about it more in a deeper level. Yeah, I agree what you said about how she really brought in her own experiences into the conversation every single chapter. Every single chapter she had like a personal experience to bring to the conversation. I think it made it a lot easier for her to explain because she knows what it's like to experience the situations. And so she really had some personal insight that I think really added to the value of this book. I absolutely agree. Did you have a favorite chapter? I like the one about, I think my product of justice just because there was this one paragraph where it brought in like so many different topics from previous chapters. I thought it was just like showed how well like the book was connected all together. There was one part, I forgot exactly which page. There was a paragraph where she was talking about how sometimes women of color, women from like low incomes or like judge for getting abortions. But it's like, when you think about how like as women may not have access to secure housing they'll have access to food consistently. They don't have the money to get their kids in education or for clothes, hurricane judgment for like making choices that they need to survive. Yeah, I absolutely agree. I think the points that she made about you know, reproductive rights, they were very clear and very personal because I mean, she stated that she had like several or I think three miscarriages and for her to be able to speak on that or like on behalf of women that have had to have like life saving abortions. It's like very, very deep and very personal for her. Another thing I really liked about the book is how she was never scared to like kind of confronts like feminist that don't, I guess I don't acknowledge people that aren't like them. Yeah. I didn't get the very beginning. She was like, you know, this is gonna be like a nice feminist book. And I really liked how she really stuck to that point where she wasn't gonna like kind of sugarcoat anything. Like she really made sense. She really made a point of being like, you should like, if you're not doing, if you're not kind of supporting women that are marginalized or not supporting women that are lower income or not supporting women that aren't like you, you're not really a feminist. And I like how she wasn't afraid to say it. Yeah, I feel like she was so bold with her points but she was still comfortable saying them because I mean, she made a lot of points that were very like eye-opening almost. They never really, not that I never think about it but I don't think about it to the level that she brought up in the differences between feminism for people of color and white women. And it was very, very interesting to read. It was overall like a really, really good book and I definitely recommend it. I mean, you already asked me this question but for you, was there a favorite chapter? Honestly, I feel like the points she brought up about reproductive rights and the chapter on eating disorders in women, I feel like that was very, it was very deep and personal. And I know I've said that before but I think like that chapter really, really stuck with me. Who would you recommend this book to overall? I'd say this book is definitely like a really good intro to anyone who like really wants to get deeper into feminism but hasn't really thought about how seven different identities can like affect women's experiences. And I think this book, I think it's really great also for like teenagers like us because I feel like it's important for us to be like more socially aware and I feel like, you know, maybe for some younger people you haven't, for younger people that haven't been experienced at this, women has I feel like for them to be able to understand how to be better at allies, for them to understand what it's like, or for them to be kind of to look at through someone else's eye, I think it's really important to get a when you're young because I don't think it's good for people to grow up and like, you know, still be ignorant. I feel like- I absolutely agree, yeah. I think you should get rid of those biases when you're young. Yeah. Because I think it's kind of, I guess I'll say it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to like be older and not like, I think it's still like seeing ignorant things of people and like, they're like, oh, just like, only see this from a perspective and I think it's really good for young people to read this book. I absolutely agree. It's so important for people, especially in, you know, like our generation and generations to come and even like generations before us to, you know, grow on their ideas on feminism and just, you know, the world in general because the statements you made in this book were very real and still very relevant to us. And they still will be relevant for, you know, many years to come because it's such a personal book. I just think overall this book is just really like, it really confronts so many issues that people are just scared to talk about and I really appreciate how it made me consider some things that I hadn't before because I always thought like, when she mentioned like housing, when she mentioned like gun violence, when she mentioned hunger, I always thought it was kind of like, I always thought it was social issues but I never strictly thought it was feminist issues. And I think it was really important for me to acknowledge that. Yeah, me too. I feel like, like subjects are overlooked in terms of feminism and the subjects that she brought up in this book, it really, she really made those connections relevant in terms of feminism. I really appreciated that. Yeah, I think Oberam is like really, really happy I read this book. Me too, yeah. I think it was definitely a really, really good read. Thank you for listening to the two nerds talking. Comment what you want us to read next month. 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