 JSA TV and JSA podcast where we're covering the latest stories, trends, and innovations with leaders in global connectivity, real estate, and the networks within. My name is Emily Scherer for JSA, and I am joined today by two gentlemen from Borealis data centers. They are an Icelandic data center leader. Today we have Christopher Andre. He is the business development manager for Borealis. And we're also joined by Ishtvan Sigur Vinsan. He is the compliance manager for Borealis. So welcome. Thank you both for being here. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. And we were just talking a little bit earlier. So I have to say I had a layover in Reykjavik. So I was saying I was only there for two hours, but I have to go back, right? Is there something I should see when I go back to Iceland? Absolutely. I mean, we welcome all parties to Iceland. There are many natural resources that you have to see. I mean, Iceland is a very scenic country. And does not only give people opportunity to explore nature, you know, but also to explore, you know, why Iceland is sustainable. Absolutely. So there are opportunities to see that, you know, through the gaze ears, you know, the hydro plants and all the waterfalls, you know, where we collect energy from. Absolutely. It looked beautiful from the plane when I was going over. Sorry, we're going to say something. Yes. So and also the hot pools that are heated with geothermal water all year around. So you can actually go to a sustainable hot water. You know, under the snow or even in a very, very, very warm day. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And keep, yeah. And we're going to talk a little bit more about that too, because I think that has a data center component as well. But before we get to that. So Ishvon, you're speaking on a panel tomorrow. It is titled Sustainability in the Cloud, the benefits of reducing carbon emissions in the cloud and how to start doing it. Can you tell us what's one thing that you hope people take away from that panel tomorrow? Yes, absolutely. So what I hope to have as takeaway is that, you know, we need to understand that cloud service providers are a sustainable solution, you know, for hosting data. However, you know, data centers play an important role. So what I would like to highlight on, you know, is that the chain responsibility, you know, within sustainability. So it's not enough, you know, to have one component as a sustainable component and know, but the chain reaction, you know, with all the suppliers. And now I take pride, you know, in having policies not only for our organization, but also extended to our suppliers. So having a cloud service provider, you know, that can add on this green element, you know, by partnership, you know, with the green data center, I think that gives the extra bonus. Absolutely. It's all these small things that add up. I feel like that has to do with scope three emissions as well when you're talking about different suppliers. Absolutely. You know, like there is this huge debate, you know, like whose scope, you know, or whose emission is that, you know, like, which is my part of the SD procedure and which is yours as a supplier. Right. So, you know, there needs to be a clear cut conversation, you know, how it's divided and how it is shared. I know because no one can do it alone. You know, we are in this business together. So we just have to hold hands, you know, and commit to that. Absolutely. And that's what everyone is here to do at DataCloud ESG. So very exciting to be here. And Christopher, you're also on a panel that's going to take place tomorrow. Can you tell us just what that panel is about or one thing you want people to take away from that? Yes. So Iceland is actually a very, very good location for data centers. Yes. Green and sustainable. We discussed we have this 100% renewable energy. It's actually the world's lowest emission per kilowatt hour. So having that is a big competitive advantage. But the other thing is that it's actually a very, very affordable energy. You're paying around $65 per gigawatt with all the additional costs. So the location provides another competitiveness. It's the cold climate up in the north. So we can actually use the environment to work as a cooling element, dragging down the PUE all the way down to 1.03, which is almost never seen in the market class today. So Iceland provides a lot of benefits and advantages to data centers and to lower the costs being one of the most competitive land in Europe as well as in the world in data centers. So I'll be discussing that with fellow panelists, our friends up north and far as we have a new sea cable that adds another advantage to Iceland shortening the time to Europe and to the US. Like we're a bridge in Ireland, just a little neighborhood as we have such a fast connection there, providing another opportunity to expand businesses over to the US. Absolutely, excellent. And we're speaking at North Tomorrow as well. So we're going to hear even more about this panel. So that sounds excellent. I hope everyone can go and see that. And now, Christopher, I also wanted to ask you, you all just made an exciting new partnership with IBM. Is there anything that you want to tell us about that? Oh, yes. So a few months back, we met with IBM on a conference like this, and we found out that we have a lot of common interests. We're trying to make the future of data economical and better for the future generations. On that, the discussions went on and we decided to go for a partnership. So now you can actually host your IBM satellite in Iceland, in our data centers, in a very, very sustainable way. And I believe this one is also going to share a little bit more on that one in a bit. But providing a secure location that fills all the compliance requirements, as well as getting the most secure location in the world, Iceland, been ranked number one for many years in a row by the global index, makes a perfect location for storing data, recovery data, and etc. Right, excellent. Thank you for sharing that with us in India. Ishtwan, if you want to go ahead and just tell us a little bit more about those sustainability efforts. Yeah, absolutely. So I would just like to highlight on the fact that Bode Alice takes pride in being a leading data center, a sustainable data center. And we have a slogan which seems slightly overused that ESG is in our DNA, but it's absolutely true. That's just because Iceland is a sustainable country on its own. And now we have one of our largest energy providers becoming carbon neutral in just about a year or two. They are almost carbon neutral, so it's at 0.3 currently without minimal or zero offsetting. So we take pride in that. But you can imagine that if a data center is connected to such a grid, which is already carbon neutral, and now achieving ESG standards, it's kind of a given for us. But what we would like to focus on, and this is why IBM partnership is really important, is that transparency is key. Compliance and sustainability go hand in hand, but also it's a business need. It's a business requirement, because this is where the world is heading to, especially after hard times like COVID. We understood what it means for the globe to focus on such issues. And with that said, Borealis takes pride in showcasing all these metrics. And with the partnership with IBM, I think this is just going to be highlighting even more why Icelandic data centers can be an absolute leader within this industry. Absolutely. Thank you for sharing that. I had not. I don't think that's overdone. I've never heard that before. So ESG is in our DNA. Is that right? Okay. Borealis data centers, thank you both so much for joining us today. Thank you for the invite. Absolutely. And everybody stay curious, stay connected and happy networking.