 What this treaty is about is books produced in alternate formats such as braille, large print, audio, under exceptions to the National Copyright Law would be able to be shared with blind people who live in another country. Currently you cannot do that because of national law. This is an important diplomatic conference. The time has come for a treaty for the rights of persons who are blind or have a print disability. We need a simple, usable, meaningful treaty. We do not want a bureaucratic treaty or one that has no substance. We need the treaty to have access to individuals in the world and we need TPM technical protection measures not to be a block to opening a book for someone to read. The biggest obstacle is an assumption that people have too many bureaucratic hurdles to jump. In the text at the moment there's a lot of brackets, there's a lot of unagreed text which if it was to remain as it is would be very difficult and mean that our organisations which are often very small organisations not for profits would not use the treaty because they would be afraid that they would be breaking the law or secondly it's just too difficult and so what we can't have is a result that is a treaty that puts us in no better position than we are now. I think the will is here, everyone has come with the right intention to get the right result. We just hope that we are able to manage it within the time of the diplomatic conference.