 My name is Flios Bilbo Baguio. I feel attacked. I feel attacked. Are you safe? What's your name? Lilian baby. Lilian. And you said you're against animal cruelty, yeah? Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. I'm against animal cruelty. I mean, I don't think there's no need to matrix animals. But when you're talking about animal being killed for food, that's completely different. You don't think it's cruel to kill an animal for food? I don't think it is. What about from the animals' eyes? I mean, we... Now you can sell really bad, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, what we gotta eat? I eat plant foods. I eat, you know, beans and rice and... Do you think about the beans? Do you think about Mother Earth, Mother Nature, when you eat the plants? The beans and whatever. What are you going to say? Because I don't feel pain, plants. When you drink a plant, obviously you see the roots, obviously you feel pain. But they don't scream. Carrots don't scream. Why, is it because, as you know, is it because it's not an animal? Yeah. Is it because a plant is not an animal, so it's okay to eat plants? Humans and animals avoid pain, but carrots don't. That is like objects, aren't they? That is plants. No, no, really. What would you say about what would you think Mother Nature would say if they're digging the plant from the roots? I think Mother Nature would say these plants are for you to eat. Animals aren't. They don't want to die. No, I mean, obviously I don't want to die. It's about... Doggy dog, I mean, words, you know what I mean? What are we going to eat? Do you know what I mean? Plants. Do you know what I mean? Fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, grains, fries, but not birds. There's a bird on your plate. No, we can't eat what we don't have you for. Do you know what I mean? A carnivore? Yeah, we like carnivore. Like a lion? Like a lion. People lion, we eat meat to survive. We need red meat. We need a blast. Sometimes it's good for people to go to know what I mean. Would you go vegan for a million dollars? I'm homeless. I don't think so. You wouldn't go vegan for a million dollars even if you were homeless? I am homeless. You are homeless? I'm homeless. And you wouldn't go vegan for a million dollars? I love meat. You love meat that much? I love meat. Do you love birds? I love animals. Do you love chickens like the animals? I love chicken. I love chicken. They're beautiful animals. Yeah, they are. And they're also cheap. That's a cheap meat, you know what I mean? So that everybody goes to go for cheap meat. But if you had a million dollars, you wouldn't need to go for cheap meat. This campaign, right? We actually offered the Pope. You know who the Pope is? Pope Francis. A million dollars to go vegan for lent. And today? Well, we haven't got a response yet. No, my man is eating meat. But you're pretty hard to convince. So I don't know about the... He's eating meat. Do you know eating meat is the number one cause of Amazon deforestation? No. The lungs of the earth. Mother nature wouldn't be happy about that. I thought it was water. I thought it was water. No. No, animal. Animal. They get some food, they don't get me wrong, but I love my meat. You love... There's a bird that's been killed. You know, I love my meat. That's a little birdie. I love chicken. Chicken's a beautiful. That's a cheap thing. Yeah, but potatoes are cheaper than chicken. Yeah, but... Rice is the cheapest food on earth. That's very disturbing to me in more than one way, I'll tell you right now. How can you beat my meat? How can you beat... Wait, wait, wait. Let me ask you this. You seem so lovely. You seem so lovely. How can you be against animal cruelty, but there's a bird on your plate that's been killed? I have to kill to survive. You don't? Did you kill that bird? No, but somebody else did. Where'd you get it? Oh, from the shop. You bought it from the shop like a lion does. Really? Lions don't buy their birds from the shop. You're not a carnivore. I'm not... Where's your claws? Show us your claws. They're not very sharp. I think it's luxury to have meat. It's a luxury in Africa, in poorer countries. It's lame. Yeah. So would you eat otherwise? Yams or potatoes or vegetables? Yeah. But even though it's expensive, you always make sure that there is meat. My name is Flios Bilbao Baguio. I feel attacked. I feel attacked. No, don't feel attacked. Are you safe? Are you guys safe? Yeah, I'm safe. I'm not dangerous. My name is Flios Bilbao Baguio. No, we're safe. Are you friendly? Are you talking about Brexit? We're talking about that behind you. That there. 700 million animals killed already. What are the turtles? Yeah, we don't eat turtles. Only a turtle. What's your favourite animal? Turtle. What's your favourite animal? Animal-wise. Would you eat a turtle? Never. Elephant. Did you eat a chicken? I do eat chicken. Do you think chickens want to live? I believe chickens want to live. Chickens want to live. Let's talk about consumer supply, right? Supply and demand. Supply and demand. What about the... Let's talk about cows in America where they're talking about thousands and thousands of herds of cows just to splurge states. It's bad, eh? Really bad. But how can you as an individual even think about trying to change that? Because. What needs to change it is the corporations. No, no, no. You're paying the corporations to kill animals. Yeah? Without your money, they don't exist. Okay, so you're imagining changing the corporation that makes 5% profit like change please? Or let's even go to 5% profit. Just by the vegan food they make profit off that. Yeah, you as one person, individual. Perfect. But all of us together. You're humble. But how can you change perception of life when they don't even understand it because they're so unintelligent as people? Let's just go with you right now. Do you think it's justified to kill animals for food if we don't need to? No. Okay. So why do we do it? Because it's supply and demand. Yeah, you're supplying the demand of murder. Yes, and why would you not? But you seem like you're against animal cruelty. Yes, I am against animal cruelty. So am I. You can change the animal's lives in your life. Okay. Yes, I could. Yeah. Guess what? Then you go out to America and you're going out to Texas and you've got 1,500 or let's even go even further. Let's talk about 1.2 million cows that are herded and slaughtered. Well, look at this. How is one person Joe- Are you okay? Yeah. Your name's Joe. How's one person? My name's Joe as well. Two Joes don't make a right, right? They do. They can. They can. If we both go vegan. But how can we as individuals just like anything, like Brexit, anything. We are so against it as society, but we're too scared to wipe up. Never. We are right now. This is all we're filming. Never underestimate the power of one. You are. And all of us together, collectively. And you too. But guess what it means though? Imagine when it comes down to it and you turn around to say Brexit, you turn around to say about meat and you've got to pay an extra four P for a steak. Oh, luckily I don't eat steak. Yes, you don't because your perception is that you believe that you're trying to save and you're trying to do something good. Good for the earth and the animals. But what about the person that lives next door to you? They can eat potatoes and rice and beans and pasta too. But they don't. Yeah, but we can influence them. How can? Showing them how many animals are killed for food in the UK. Do you think that's a perception that they believe is justified? Yeah. Why? Because they'd be against animal cruelty too. But that is, they eat cruelty. But why is that perception that they believe in? Why would they not just follow society? Because we're trying to do that. Yes. It's about individuals deciding that it's easier to follow society than it is to be dictated by someone else. It's easier to go along with it. But what about you, my friend? You seem like you're a man of values. Value, definitely. Yeah. Does it go against your values to kill animals for food if we don't need to? 100%. Yeah. So why don't you align your values with your actions? Because my values is one person, correct? Exactly. I'm only talking about you. Okay. No one else right now. It's your actions right now. It's more everything. Yeah. It's more everyone else. Your actions right now. In all society, in a general little cube that they live in, yeah. Just you, right now. Just me. Would you do it? Yes. But... Okay. Let's go even further then. Go vegan for Lent? No, let's go further. Okay. Society will not... People don't like change, correct? People are scared of changing. When you deal with a director of a company... A brother? No, listen to me. Yeah. Listen. When you deal with a director and the reason why they won't change is because they're scared about their decision that they make could possibly be deemed as negative. Which will make them look bad. So you know what society do? Well, they follow each other. They follow each other. Heard of sheep. Do you know this is the fastest growing movement on earth? Yeah. The vegan movement? That's great. So people are following? Yeah, the fastest growing movement on earth is a minority compared to the likes of when you go to America or you go even to fucking foreign countries, wagging stakes in Japan. Every one wants. You don't know. You don't know because you were promising to go vegan for Lent. No, I'm not promising to go vegan. What I'm promising is that... To align your values with your actions. But that's not vegan for Lent, is it? That's vegan for life. No. It's not. What is it? It's about choosing to turn around to people and say, you know what? Why don't you just fucking think about something else because you're not even using your head? Like Brexit, everything like that. They're not even using their heads. Well, they do it. Heard of sheep. Follow it. Hello. I think next time I see you... Next time I see you, you would have aligned your actions with your morals. Yeah. And you can have a vegan cupcake. Why don't we even go to Indonesia? Why don't we even go further? Hello. What's happening in all those countries? Hello. We can only take care of our own actions and the influence we have. Okay, let's even go further then. What about... Because I'm sitting like you've got a rim. That's very disturbing to me in more than one way. I'll tell you right now.