 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump, mind pump with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews In this episode of Mind Pump, we got rid of Justin! Justin had to leave early But he was here for the most of the episode so Justin, Adam and I do our normal introductory current events Conversation, we started out by talking about pranks Sal's poop It was it was hilarious. He thinks he's the shit at least for me. We talked about my daughters Stand-up comedy routine. So cute. She made me so proud. We talked about the Sacramento Kings mayonnaise video brilliant. I love mayonnaise. I dip everything in mayonnaise. We talked about Adam's infantile palette like a baby and Flavor snob Adam did sign off on our on Organifi. In fact, I remember that when we first signed with Organifi One of the litmus test was Adam had to actually like the taste of their products And he talked about he talked about the gold juice because that stuff is delicious. It's also very relaxing It's got some adaptogenic herbs in there. If you go to organifishop.com enter the code mind pump You get a pretty massive discount. Then we talked about robot brothels or at least sex doll brothels. These are open up all the great discussion right here Yeah, we're getting a little bit of debate. We talked about legislating morality. That's where it led It got a little dark, but it was a good conversation and then we talked about the green chef Sex hack green chefs gonna love this. Let me tell you something You want to this is like a date night is one of the best date nights if you order food from green chef It's healthy or whatever. It's mostly prepped and you cook it with your significant other It's also great for single people too. 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I actually I ordered fake I I was sitting there talking to my kids and I was remember I don't remember what we were talking Oh, we were talking about like like they always tell me my kids favorite thing to do which by the way if You're if you're a parent and your kids do this to you I don't know. Maybe this will happen. This happens to you too, Justin It's like the most heartwarming thing But my kids are always like well eating dinner and they're always like but Bob tell us a story about when you were a kid or Tell us a story about when you're in school and I just it warms me up so much because my dad used to tell so many stories When we were having dinner I remember I would hear him tell the same stories over and over again But I liked hearing them still I knew it was gonna happen, but I get excited and my dad's very animated So I'm telling them stories about like funny shit that we would do with our kids and you know When we were rascals and all this other stuff and I was trying to tie it in with some kind of a and now you know The more you know So anyway, I was doing it and I remember thinking like God one of the funniest things That when I that I had when I was a kid was well, there's two things I had I had Stink bombs. Yeah, I'm definitely not gonna give those to my kids But they'll figure that one out dude. They sell a fart spray by the way I used to make him in chemistry. They sell a fart spray. They sell a fart spray. I'm so close to buying it a fart spray Yes, ooh, that's brilliant dude. You can just spray it like on somebody exactly that's horrible exactly So but I ordered Nick move I went on Amazon and I found fake poop and so I ordered it I thought it was so great and then I walked into my house And so I got tissue paper Yeah, so I held the teacher so I had the tissue and I put it on the tissue paper And I walked in and the kids were all there and I'm like, oh, look what I found outside. It was like Everybody freaked out Started laughing and then my now my kids are like so my kids today Or no yesterday actually I brought it to work yesterday They're like take it to work and play a prank on your on your friends and then film it for us Oh, yeah, I forgot to film it Man, so what I want to do before I leave maybe Adam with you is I want I'm gonna I want you to pretend like you get Trek okay kids will get a get a re-create it really sell it Yeah, well, so Sal was trying to get Taylor and he puts it up on a chair on a box on a napkin It's certainly believable what are you guys's dogs jumped up on my chair and then got on a box and then shit on a napkin I like the idea yesterday when you had it outside like it was a bum just took a dump right next to the door Yeah, like yeah, that's believable. Yeah, exactly. I could actually love it. Look at that thing looks so real Yeah, anyway, no, I love that too like it's not really at dinnertime necessarily like I tell the stories like I'll usually tell it before bed and so Like they always hijack when I'm reading them an actual story. They just won't have it anymore They don't they don't want me to actually read like Courtney she'll read and like get through the books with them and everything they literally stopped me mid-tracks They're like make it funnier daddy Use a different voice like they're like really demanding, you know, it's like oh shit I gotta sharpen my now have you told them stories about yourself yet like when oh when I was a kid Or when I was in high school, yeah, I know your kids are young Okay, yeah, because I don't know about you man, but when my dad will tell me stories about You know the time he you know gotten to fight with the dude Or the time he you know was able to lift this big thing or whatever. I was like listening to my superhero Yeah, you know I mean yeah, they're just like it like captivated every word my kids love it You know I mean it just so it feels so good. But anyway speaking of of jokes so My I'm so up so proud of my kids so proud of my kids because they They're way more confident than I was at their age for sure 100% so my daughter's in second grade And they have a talent show in her whole school and my daughter's like I want to I'm gonna be in the town show now This is in front of the whole school and she's in second grade So there's not I don't think there's that many second graders who are gonna be the ones going up on stage So she wants to do this talent show now. I'm like trying hard to not Transmit my my anxiousness and nervousness to her. You know I mean, right? So she tells us and I'm like are you sure you want to do it? And I think to myself like be careful don't question too much because I'm questioning her because I'm nervous So I'm like, are you sure you want to do? She's like, yeah, I want to do it So I'm like, okay. I'm like, do you feel nervous? So she's like, yeah, but I still want to do it So I'm like, oh fuck. This is cool So at first what she wanted to do is she wanted to do a dance like dance act But then she like wouldn't practice it with her mom and she didn't like to do it And I'm like and so I took her aside and I said Do you are you sure you really want to do this talent show and she said yes I said because you're not practicing You know if you're really nervous and it's scaring you you can tell me if you don't want to do it And she's like, well, I am nervous and I said is it just that you don't want to dance and she's like kind of I said Why don't you do something else? So we started talking and so she's gonna do a comedy act. She's gonna do a stand-up act Where she goes up and she tells jokes to the school Tell the first joke again. Well, so yesterday was a rehearsal. Oh, okay And the rehearsal was in front of not the not the whole school, but all the kids that are Gonna be doing the time performing. Yeah, I'm I went to watch her and I'm fucking nervous Were you standing up close or kind of like on the side? I'm on the side in the back in your nails Yeah, like nervous and I'm nervous kind of for her But also cuz you can't help but place yourself in their shoes. Oh, yeah, and in second grade There's not in a million. You couldn't have paid me You couldn't have done anything that would have forced me to go on stage by myself To do anything in front of a bunch of kids, you know, it would just it would have mortified me Yeah, so she's up there. I'm super nervous and she just she told the joke. She annunciated very well A couple people laughed she comes down and I'm just like so proud of her. So then afterwards we're leaving on the way home I'm like so I'm like you did so good like I recorded it and I showed her And I said and she goes I have another idea and I said, well, what do you want to do? She goes I know what I want to wear when I go up there. So I mean think of this I'm like, I don't know. What do you want to wear? And she's like I want to wear a banana suit No, hey, dude. No way. Yes. That's brilliant. Yes. Don't we have the banana suit? Yeah, but she's not gonna huge. Yeah. Is it huge? It's for an adult, bro It's not one size fits all is not even better She won't even look like a banana look like a banana peel No, dude, she wants to wear a banana suit and I'm just like and especially because she's my she's my girl And I think sometimes girl. I know boys for sure are encouraged to be funny and goofy But girls sometimes are I think embarrassed to do that because it might feel like they're not being cute or whatever And when you try to be funny, you get you fail a lot. That's just part of being funny You have to practice right dude the fact she wants to wear fucking banana putting it out there like that Oh, it's so great, man. It makes my heart warm and that sells it even more too And she just like intuitively like thought of that. That's great, man You get talking about funny and prank shit. I got to share this you guys just reminded me of something now Doug you got to look this up so the boys can see this so Google Sacramento Kings and mayonnaise Oh, yeah, this is fucking this is so great. So let me as Doug's looking it up Let me tell you a little bit about the Sacramento Kings this year like so I believe that their Uh Viewership is down the team is just kind of struggling. They traded one of their star players this this year um Demarcus cousins and I think like they're just the team's been kind of taking a tank and so is like Attendance and shit. So check this out So this is this pops up on tv. Just like this is two days ago And it's these two girls one of them is wearing a sacraments. They're at the kings game and they're look at their doing They're eating a jar of mayonnaise With a spoon Yeah, why it's fucking brilliant By the way, are do they work for the kings? So I explain the brilliance So the brilliance is if Doug can get it up there So if the brilliance behind it is it's it looks fucking disgusting now the rumor is that it's just pudding And do you see them going back and forth and they're they're just eating spoonfuls going to oh It's just you can't help but when and when you're watching it live So I saw it on sports center seeing it all over now So weird how I predict I predicted this trench we talked about mayonnaise earlier. Remember this is the thing now I got yeah somebody gave me shit about it from england saying like oh, yeah We eat mayonnaise and fries all the time. So big deal. What's What's brilliant about this is that this is for sure put on by the marketing team Because they they play look at this girl's pointing at it And then they just start spooning out mayo back and forth just spoonfuls of it. Of course somebody's of course they're gonna share that Yeah, so this thing is gone. Oh, it's gone viral everybody's talking about it. It's popped up on sports center This is espn that's showing it right now So it is gone everywhere and it's so it's a brilliant brilliant smart It's brilliant right it's so subtle the girl's wearing a king's hat You know, it's at the sacramento king's gang game. So imagine how much publicity that this thing just got It just shows you how much thought has to go into like viral You know videos or things that like like certain ideas. They have to be like so Carefully constructed now. I love you How much want to bet that's gonna start a trend it already are gonna try eating mayonnaise It's already try to look at our forum What made me remember this was did you know that there's a thread on our forum right now Where everyone's talking about mayonnaise and people eating it straight in there This buzz is what's caused that whether the person on the forum knows it or not But like this is gone being going all over the place And so I'm sure they somebody From our forum saw something related to this that prompted them to probably bring up or share something else related to it But I just love when I see stuff like that in marketing that I think is just fucking brilliant That was very smart brilliant brilliant I mean they literally have millions of eyes on them in the last two days when they were struggling with people Probably watching them. What's the mayonnaise eating? What's the grossest thing that you that you guys will eat that you think people will be like Do you guys have anything like that? I mean I'll eat a whole cube of butter. Oh damn. You took mine. Will you really? Yeah, me too like straight eat a cube. Oh, no problem. I'll bite right into a Block of butter no problem when I was a kid I used to get in trouble for that whole block of cheese Yeah cheese, of course, but I used to get in trouble for that So my mom would go in the groat in the in the fridge open the fridge And there'd be like a bite chunk out of the the bar of butter and she'd know it was me I was a little kid and I get big old trouble for it But I still like ghee, you know ghee I'll eat tablespoon of ghee by itself. Love it. Love ghee It's all carameline I don't know if I have any weird eating habits like that Trying to think of what I would you have a very uh infantile palette. So I don't know I don't mean that You know you like you like sweet. I've never been insulted like that. All right. I don't know I take that I was like Fire back and say something really mean Is that really that much of an insult? No, it's you know what I mean? You eat his pre-chewed food No, you like you like sweet like tasty things and everything's gross to you and Everything's gross. You know what I mean like I I my dad had sardines When he was a kid or when I was a kid and so I never liked the smell of them and well Just the textures gross and slimy to me. So that never appealed to me Um, and then anchovy same thing I felt about them But there's not a lot there's not a lot of foods that I'm disgusted in or I don't like it's true You like shellfish. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they're all I'll eat. I'll eat a lot of like liver like chicken liver Um, I don't crave it, but I would eat it if it's cooked, right prepared, right? You know, I wouldn't just eat it eat it like plain, but you are you are You do have a like sensitive palate. I get read the right word, right where you're like, uh You know what this was actually the one of the litmus tests for Organifi when we had them is We had to like the ingredients and you know, you Okay, yeah, so I'm probably the most snobby about that's maybe that's right, right? Yeah, I'm probably the most snobby out of You have the palate of a child You can only handle gerber. I was like, I don't know how to take this I'm just looking down at you like, hmm. Yeah, baby cares an apricot. You know, you know I remember when we when we started take I mean, we just got a bunch We always get stuff sent to us, right? And so we don't always share it if we don't care for it very much or it's not a product we pick up But yeah, Organifi was one of the I remember when they first sent over stuff for us to try You know that to me is the first thing because here's the thing like And and I and I and I support Sal when he talks about like it's it's gotta be He's the type of person who will if it tastes like shit if it's good for me I'll I'll stomach and put it down, but I'm not the average person at all And I and I recognize we're running a business here. So that's that is something that you're not the norm And so for me, it's like when I taste something It's gotta taste good. And then if it's if it's really healthy for us to like that's a win Like okay cool has to have both and that was like Organifi Organifi was definitely one of those brands where the gold juice You won't even shut up about that. I mean that and that legit tastes dude. It's tastes so good Yes, all of Courtney and I drink that like on a regular if I'm being honest that what I use what product I use the least of theirs is probably the protein powder The the green the red and the orange juice I use on a very and then the probiotic those those things I use on a pretty regular basis. So I mean the gold juice red green and gold What did I say? Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of it's more of an orange color to me I know they call it their gold juice, but it's a little or it's an orange color to me It's like it's like golden orange-ish But yeah, so I'm I guess we could call me the you the flavor Flavor snob that's not like into the podcast We could start we could start that does yeah. Anyway, so um Dude, I have I have a little bit of like more things we've predicted that are actually happening Oh, do you yeah, so bring it. I know that we've talked a bit about this whole What's gonna happen with? Robots and you know, I'm like banging them and all that kind of stuff, right? And so there's actually like brothels that are popping up all over the place in Europe That are getting a lot of backlash because You know inevitably there's rape fantasies. There's all these types of things that are already starting to happen with Robots these bang dolls Of course real the real dolls and yeah in some of the robots I will say it right here right now one of the biggest Controversies coming our way is going to be pedophilia with The sex dolls or robots that was another thing they brought up. Yep. That's already happening guarantee you that's going to be a major major controversy in debate because The argument's going to be well, it's not they're not hurting anybody And the other argument's going to be like that's terrible and disgusting and then who cares what people do and they're It's going to go back and forth and I literally like I saw that in the news and I was like I don't know if it was in France or Germany, but it was it was Definitely they're already trying to figure out how to you know Put laws in place for these types of things that are already happening And if it is like a moral concern or not like they're trying to figure it out you know, I I think I think it's not that hard to to Regulate this even though I know we're not pro-regulating, but I think it's a sex toy company You shouldn't be making children sex toys. That would be really fucking inappropriate Yeah, so I think for on there on there and but as far as you know as long as the the doll is Like a 20 year old Love looking I I don't see anything wrong with that and I think that's the only I think that's the way that you restrict it Is you you hold the the standard to the companies that are making it's like You can well here's the way I look at it as far as laws are concerned If you're not hurting another human or stealing from another human Uh, you know live human or whatever then I don't think there should be laws against it now That doesn't mean that I think it's okay or cool or whatever I definitely think that people should and they do have the right to boycott and put social pressure So if there's a brothel that's doing these types of things and nobody's getting hurt should we pass a law? No, because it's immoral to take people and find or jail them for doing Nothing to nobody but themselves. So that it's you can't solve that problem The irony of doing something like that though I would wonder like so your desired outcome if you're if you're protesting these these brothels, right? So if that's if you're you're saying okay, listen, we shouldn't put any sort of regulation on it But we obviously should occur encourage or allow people to stand out pick it or do whatever Which is it's I mean that's that's all non-violent But the irony in that is what the people that see them that see wrong with that and that are out there picketing it It's going to give it more publicity and more more people are going to know about it Which in turn will probably just drive more people getting involved in it We are we are entering into a time where you know, what do they call it moral relativism where? more and more We are going to be testing our moral fabric And the way we're going to test it is hey if it doesn't hurt anybody then who cares and what's the big deal and and You know, we're going to have to ask these these tough questions I don't think you should legislate morality doesn't work never has worked Causes more problems and to be honest with you I don't want a separation of church and state. Yeah, that's why it's important I don't want to put in charge I never want to put anybody in charge who decides what they can legislate in terms of morality because we know where that goes Right, but I think socially Like, you know, it's unacceptable socially be open put some pressure like if I see somebody doing some shit that I think is Not cool or immoral Again don't get mad at me for saying again though will will the pressure and the protesting Will will it only backfire? I mean let if This is something that a lot of people wouldn't even know about it If if Justin didn't say something or mention it now people you for sure There's a percentage of people now go research and look at it now There's a percentage of those people that will probably actually do it So, you know, if there's this small group of people that are perpetuating the problems Well, that's what no my my point is just to to play devil's advocate with sal because sal's saying like well, you know We don't regulate it. Let's just allow it to happen But then I believe that people should be allowed to protest it and whatever because that's free freedom of speech But what I'm saying is like well the people that are protesting it If their desired outcome is to get it shut down and regulated and not to happen Protesting is actually probably not the best route of doing that because all it's really gonna do right You're bringing up its relevance and right. It's how I more eyes to it It's how I feel about violence and we put it all this stuff on the news all the time And we talk about all this violence and racism things like that. Well, the more we talk about on the news It's not helping the cost the same with terrorism People like to talk about this bullshit awareness thing like oh, it's you know It's better for us because we're making more people aware of it. Are is it really sometimes sometimes it's better But you know, you're right. It doesn't guarantee something's gonna stop like for example When you have like a if you have a company that says, you know, we don't want to serve Or we don't want to make a a wedding cake for a gay wedding And you know, my argument is well, it's their business They should be able to be assholes if they want to there shouldn't be a law that says you can't be an asshole If you want to be an asshole be an asshole, however, I definitely think people should protest boycott And and and bring it to light They'll lose a lot of business they will but but what will also happen right to do that What will also happen is you'll get all the other people anti-gay people who will go over and just try to support them Right and try to give them money. Yeah the way I look at it is this it's a war of ideas Okay, a war of ideas doesn't involve violence unless somebody you're defending yourself and defending your property Shouldn't involve violence if you believe in your ideas enough Then they should win but here's the real moral argument Here's the real thing that we need to worry about because at the end of the day All you can all you can really worry about is yourself All you can really change is yourself if you know, what's that saying you want You know be the change you want in the world right all you can do is worry about yourself So if I speak out about someone it's not necessarily only because I want that business shut down Because if I just wanted it to be shut down I could go lobby the government And I'm sure if I got enough people we could get the government to do pretty much anything We want whatever you know to infringe on liberties and a lot of stuff Really the reason why I'm speaking out is my own because it's my own moral imperative I feel it's wrong and if I don't speak out or if I don't do anything against it Then and I know what's happening and it's there I feel like I'm actually part of it and and this is true throughout all of history, you know Yeah, but that's where I would argue the other side like you not saying anything is probably more powerful in that sense I don't know I mean that's that's self-serving more serving for you because you have a problem with it morally And so you want to stand up and you want to say something but if you think about your real desired outcome is Less people to do it I think that and especially if you're also pro that you can't that that that won't stop them You're just hoping that you're going to hurt their business, but in in in reality you're actually giving their business more attention more Damage has been done worldwide more terrible things have happened worldwide not because People didn't say anything but because people not because people said something but because people didn't say anything way more Death destruction discrimination Horrible horrible acts if you look at all these terrible acts them sure there was one or two drivers But really the main problem was all these fucking people Didn't say something and so I don't think that the problem is People speaking out, uh, I think the problem is and yes Are there people that speak out just to hear their own voice and to feel like they're important? Of course social media is full of it But people who really care and really do something You know for the most part I think that's a better way It's a better way to be and it's and it puts brings things out to light and opens up the debate Let's have this actual real discussion rather than ignoring, you know stuff's not happening But again, if you if we have this debate and lots and lots of people start going like oh my god Yeah, I totally disagree with that shame and we shame this company like crazy Would that get your desired outcome? What do you have to understand? What is that? Is it just a vote vote? Voice your opinion because you don't you don't see it's morally like what are you serving there? Are you really? Serving the cause because what's going to end up happening is more people know about it If let's say the three of us didn't know each other and we saw this cause we're all anti This this now makes me go. Oh my god. I speak out on it. We all go to on our instagram We all do an image post we write a long post about how morally wrong this is I can't believe that now between the three of us We've now introduced it to you know 80,000 more people that may have not seen it Sure Maybe is that a good thing maybe I think I think more often than not though I would put my money on the fact that if in fact you do make a good case And you do make a good argument and you do have the Maybe right idea. I think more often than not you will succeed more often than not and history Has has proven that history's proven that over and over and time and time again I think sometimes people think that they're going to get something to change and in fact a backfires But I think well, I think I think for the most part maybe it's like what actually sticks That's right. I don't know. I think I think using history as an example is not a good example That's the best example we have but it be sure, but I don't think it's a good one for this I think that we're we're heading into a time that is completely different We didn't have the we didn't have the ability to post something on social. Do you think it will be Do you think it will be socially acceptable? honestly for People to go have sex with you know dolls that look like Children at some point. Do you think that will be Morally acceptable. No, I think it's so morally unacceptable My my argument is that we you potentially put that regulation on the company that they're not allowed to do that You're not allowed to make a doll that's under the age of 18 That should be a law if our law is already in place that an adult can't have sex with a minor if you're a sex Sex company you can't yeah, well, that's that if the company is the question What happens if they break the law so then they would they either be shut down or they get fine like right? So what you're what you're advocating for and this is why it's as important as a great discussion It's a very important discussion what you're advocating for is Violence and force against someone that committed no violence and no force So if they make some they make a doll They're not hurting anybody It's a it's a it's I'm not arguing necessarily that I would say that they get violence or force is because I don't I don't see a fine or saying that you can't do that I'm arguing that it would be more effective than the way you think it's going to be I mean as much as I'm a free market free speech guy, and I'm right along with you with a lot of Libertarian views. This is an area that is going to be really challenging for these libertarian type views because Now you're fucking with something that we'd never mess with before and there is no history to debate this over It could it could be but here's the thing how many moral things or immoral things happen today That you think are should be stopped How many of those would you put laws on like why don't we have laws saying because they used to be on the books? It is it was illegal for you to uh to commit adultery It is you know, it was it's illegal in many most places for prostitution It's illegal in you know in most places to take certain drugs or do certain things like that is a that's the problem It's like the freedom. It's like free speech like Free speech is absolute You can't have these kinds of exceptions because that is a slippery slope and let me ask you this Who determines this morality? Do you really trust bureaucrats to determine? What's moral and whatnot and how and what and what if somebody goes in power like that's never it's a tough space But I mean talking about it. It's it's like I have opinions You know I have I have a fabric that I in a code that I operate under and so if I have a problem with it It's gonna like I can't not say something You know, if something's gonna ask me about i'ma say something Is it gonna be desired outcome? It's a good point. I don't know, you know Like it's it it turns into sort of like a spinning your wheels kind of a thing I already know the arguments that are gonna happen. I guarantee it. I can tell you right now What will happen is they'll show some study that shows that hey if we let people do this with these Types of you know robos. It'll decrease in society. Yes, and they're gonna come out with all these different arguments or whatever And it trying to get a law for against it. It's gonna be interesting. It'll be very interesting, but socially speaking I think it's so socially unacceptable. Thank god. Thank goodness that I mean it's so socially unacceptable that Among the worst of society the criminals and the rapists and the murders If you go to jail and you mess with the kid you're dead Like you're ruined you're fucked. You know even within that realm Within that realm of people who do some terrible terrible terrible shit They won't touch that. Well, do you believe that we should be able to like so we have the technology to I mean all the way to make the most destructive guns out there Do you think it should we should be allowed to purchase guns that could destroy a city do that people shouldn't Have a gun. Well, how's that different? Yeah, that's it's a company. It's a company who's producing weapons Right now. We allow you only to use certain types of weapons. Why don't we just let everybody have news? That's a that's a very very very good question now And that's been argued so much in the supreme court You know the constitution says that the people should be a well armed militia So the argument's been made well people should have The ability to have the same arms as the military But and then of course on the other side of that we know that's not true Yeah on the other side of that is like insanity now Is that an equal is that an equal argument? Maybe on a moral one but on a pragmatic one? I doubt it. I think it's different, but it's very similar It can be but also very different like if you if you owned a nuke and you messed up, you know, you kill everybody How would you store it? How would you dispose of it? How would you maintain it? I mean, yes that we can have that moral conversation But you can't take one argument that you are just using for the doll thing and you can't now change it Just because it's guns I mean you got to stay with that same theory that it should be Completely legal and fine for an arms dealer that to be able to make whatever weapons they want and sell to the public And we should be allowed to picket it and say no, it's not okay and hope that we stop it Well, I don't see like I said, I think I think at the end of the day the only laws that are even Look, here's a deal in the future The only laws that are going to exist are going to be the ones that protect you your body and your property Mainly because I don't even know how you would even regulate that in the future. Anyway, how you're gonna relate How you're gonna regulate the dolls? That's okay again This is why this is so interesting is that's why I don't like you using history as an example to try and prove Your point is we are moving in a time that the new rules are gonna the playing field is fucking different, bro No matter how you spin it and that this is You can 3d print everything right? No, it actually it actually still applies because Again, uh Is legislating something like that in the future good luck even if you even if you could Good luck with that and should you legislate something that is Causing is not it hurt anybody. It's it's gonna be a very interesting controversial argument I I have no idea where it's gonna go I'm pretty sure if I had to bet money that they're gonna pass laws banning it 100% I'm pretty sure there's gonna be laws that say you can't make these kind of dolls, right, but I don't know man. Yeah, I don't know where I stand on I mean, I'm just I'm playing devil's advocate with you right now because I've I've already thought about this discussion and it's It's a very Oh, man, yeah, it's a very challenging one as far as like what what do I think is the right thing for us? It's gonna get crazy, bro. It's gonna get crazy to where You know people are gonna I guarantee you there's gonna be robots that you're gonna go into a game or like a big building And you go hunt the robot and kill it or you know, right? Are you kidding me? Westworld do yes, it's terrible. That's why I love that show by the way Isn't that story there's a new season coming. I think it's like next week. It starts up Can't wait for that show. I love that show But yeah, it's gonna be interesting man. It's gonna be really interesting in the future. See what happens Quite the conundrum right here. We cove. Hey, I saw you got your green chef box yesterday. Yes I had another one dude. I love you know, I like most about it besides the food's really good good quality You know mostly organic all that stuff. It's just so fun to do with your Significant other that's what you said last time it takes about so the the one we made the other night took us 40 minutes So you have all the ingredients prep for you. It was it was sausage and vegetables and They include like seasoning which there are a few things in there that they don't tell you Like the exact measurements and I think probably to protect their recipes because the recipes are really fucking Well, then you can be kind of creative to your own palate. Yeah, so Everything's out there for you. So we're just preparing it and we had a little bit of wine I don't know if I like you sharing this, you know, you shared this on the podcast already and you know Fucking Katrina. She served me last time. I didn't actually have to cook it with her So but she definitely listens to the podcast and was giving me shit like dude What the fuck is you weren't involved? Yeah, I was involved. I'm upstairs. Your boy's throwing you into the bus Right. I'm watching basketball. It up comes my green chef, you know, Katrina serves it to me So that she goes, you know, it'd be nice if you cooked in the kitchen with me like south like sals girl does and I'm just like Let me tell you something. You'll have great sex. I promise you'll have great This might be one of those tips like you gave with reading with your shoes, right? This is another hack You know what it is It's when you're making something with someone and it doesn't have to be cooking like you could Like build something together because I've done a couple things like that with Jessica You're just making something together. It you feel, uh, I don't know. It's the fucking it's really fun Anyway, so what I'm going to do with my next green chef box is I'm going to do with my kids Because all the ingredients are cut and everything so they can you know, they can learn how to cook Yeah, dude, how fun do you think that would be with the kids, right? No, that's a smart idea Won't that be a blast? Right, right? So I had a few people that tried it, but they're like, oh man It's so expensive and that always makes me laugh when people are like, it's so expensive. It's like, well, yeah No, shit like it's everything in it. It's healthy or can't like and they do the work for you Like are we gonna count for all that stuff? Are we yeah? Are we are we comparing this to fucking lunchables? Is that? Yeah, no shit. It's more expensive. It costs less than going out to dinner for sure That costs more in the talk ability get like a three dollar talk Right everybody if everybody should know by now like we when we I'll tell you right now when we do decide Products or companies that we go we go for quality. Yes price is not trying to be cheap. Sorry not sorry Yeah, like yeah, that's where we can actually stand behind it and actually put our stamp on it And when you actually look at it when you break it down like a lot of people don't realize it's not at all That's it's like the I remember the first time I got that about thrive too. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like when you do the math on it, it's cheaper than everywhere else It's not as expensive it's if you eat out it's because we've been conditioned to be to for cheap for food Like we've been conditioned the worst idea ever one time a day, which I would argue most people do Most people eat out at least four days a week right at least right eat out that much. It's it's cheaper than that Yeah, so now do that it's healthy you cook it with like oils and everything under your control You know because you go out and you eat it's like you don't even really know how to prepare it So this is a great alternative And and if you're a look if you're a guy I'm telling you right now I promise you this is this is a fucking hack if there's a girl you're going out with or you just met Inviter over trying to get you laid invite her over for a green chef night You got the box you open it up and you just cook together and you don't look like an asshole Because you don't know what you're doing because it's all right there for you Right, right, man cool little picture and everything comes with it This clause brought to you by Organifi For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge Try Organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi.com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20 off at checkout All right, our first question is from Phoebes cray k How do you improve strength to rate weight ratio? I set a goal over a year ago of 10 pull-ups But could only do four at the time a year has passed and i'm about five to seven kilograms heavier And it can still manage Only four despite all my lifts increasing. Do I need to change or adapt my training to improve this? So this is maps anywhere. Yeah, you probably got heavier. Um, that's probably why your lifts Got yeah, see it is I am about five to so your strength to weight ratio Didn't change because you got heavier. So one of the easiest ways To and I know I experienced this back in the day when I would do the the bulk and cut like when I would go I'd get my body weight up to like 220 and then I'd drop it down and get down to 190 And of course when I was down to 190, I always be able to do way more pull-ups Right and it's because my weight went down So strength to weight ratio refers to your ability to maneuver or handle your own body weight This favors smaller people with a smaller stature So people who tend to be shorter or leaner tend to have more strength to weight ratio Just because they have less weight to move which makes it a kind of it makes it kind of a conflicting goal If you're all you're also trying to gain that's right Like those are kind of conflicting goals or adaptations that you're focusing on So if you really cared about strength to weight ratio and that was like your primary goal I would say you follow a program like maps anywhere and you lean out You lean out and you follow a body weight type of a program You're going to see incredible strength to weight ratio happen Yeah, you'd focus more on tension moves and like really focusing on your central nervous system And like how to increase strength in that direction versus like loaded situations Right and you're definitely not trying to gain weight So if you're gaining weight, which even if it's all good way doesn't matter You're not your goal isn't really to gain weight Your goal is to increase your strength to weight ratio Which it would be advantageous to reduce your body fat or lean out While you're training a lot of body weight type of movements Otherwise Where where you see you're at where you see you out with the numbers that you're you I would be very proud of that Right. Yeah, that's because that's all that's 10. That's about 10 to 15 pounds or 16 pound If I gained 16 pounds And I was able to do the same amount of pull-ups. Yeah, I would be very happy right I take that same person like literally let's let's say this person said okay now follow maps anywhere and lean out lose 10 to 15 pounds I guarantee their reps on their pull ups would be insane three more or something. Oh insane I would I would think it would go up even more than that. I mean because you're you've that's a lot of weight five to seven kilograms You're talking about a 15 pound Plus difference that this person's are well to 15 pound you're matching what you did previously And you're more than matching they started at four and now they're up to 10 pull-ups. They've more than doubled No, no, no the goal was 10. Yeah, they can still do it. He's got to 10 all right So he stayed the same and he's at okay. Okay, so he's still he's I mean he's definitely gotten stronger Here's a good example. We we had Robert Oberst down and we were hanging out with him He's the world's strongest man competitor massive human being six foot eight three hundred and seventy five pounds Stupid strong. He dwarfs us all ridiculous strong like, you know, my best squat ever My entire life was close to 500 pounds. He squatted over 900 pounds. So just Way stronger at every lift, but I bet you when pull-ups I could compete with him I might even probably I might even be able to beat him now am I stronger than Robert Oberst? No I'm just way lighter. You know, I mean he's three 75. I weigh 186 pounds So my strength to weight ratio on that particular lift may be better. Does that make me a stronger individual? No, not really strength weight ratio is cool though for certain things like If you're obstacle course racing You want that you want a really good strength to weight ratio Are you in a weight class do you compete in a weight class like wrestling or boxing or something like that? Well, yeah, then strength to weight ratio makes a big difference because now you're in a weight class And you're way stronger at your weight than your competitors is a strength to weight ratio important when you play A sport like football where they don't give a shit how much away not nearly as much In fact having a better strength to weight ratio might not be a good thing when you're a lineman Where you just want to be fucking strong and heavy No, a sport that would matter would be like wrestling that would matter Yeah, because of the weight classes right absolutely So now here's a good tip if you if you are trying to increase your reps On something here's a very very easy tip do a little bit of that movement every day So what I mean by that is this particular person can only do four reps in the pull-up I'm assuming it's four reps max like that's the most they could do so it's four reps to failure So here's what I recommend several times a day Go do one or two pull-ups on a pull-up bar. That's it. Don't do anything hard Just go do one pull-up practice it come down do that like three four times a day hone in on that signal Yep, do it every single day and then after a few weeks Match that same intensity so so so what I mean by that is if you could do four max You know what the intensity feels like to do one So just practice one when that intensity did just do one all of a sudden feels easier like well That feels a lot easier increase it to two and then when that becomes easy like it was for you originally when you did one Now increase it to three and little by little you'll get to the point where you're doing four pull-ups several times a day And it's no longer to failure. It's for easy pull-ups and this is a technique I've used many times on many many lifts You know, I've gotten my deadlift uh to improve doing this I've gotten my bench press to improve doing this I've gotten stronger in you know, whatever lift I decided I wanted to do I would take a really kind of lightweight that I could kind of feel but that was easy I'd set it aside and of course I work in a gym. So that made it a lot easier You know who else has really good strength-to-weight ratio rock climbers huge dude huge. Yeah, it's just the The amount of freak it's the frequency, right? It's constantly contracting and it's just like all your whole your entire body is involved Dude, your grip is ridiculous. I think Mike Salimi is one of the strongest Oh, yeah, he's a great example. I don't like off the top of my head. I don't know strength to weight Yes, strength to weight because he's like what 150 something 160 maybe 160 he weighs with that guy's fucking squatted like 400 500 pounds easily. He's a strong Stronger than all of us, right and he's like half our size I mean, yeah, and the technique like he's mastered because of the practice Yes, right and so that's that's such a humongous factor even in you look at any olympian It's like the reason why they're the best is because they do it so frequently Yeah, there's something there's something to be said about having a good strength to weight ratio as it applies to everyday life Is it is it good to just have a lot of strength? Yeah, there's some benefit to that But strength to weight ratio about when you go about your day, like, you know, you're just every day stuff Oh for overall for overall health. It's way more. It's way more. Do you guys notice a difference when you have that? It's really good. I mean, it's incredible. I move the way I move the way I do things It's like holy shit, man I feel so good Because I'm really strong for my body weight and then there's been other times when I was way stronger But I was also way heavier. Yeah, and then you just feel like you're a big mountain dude I remember this vividly when I was training for football and like you said like weight was kind of like one of those things They want you to get Heavier because if they feel like well your performance is going to go up because People you're facing a lot of times are a lot bigger than you and they're they're more powerful because they're like throwing their mass at you uh, so I did I went and I Over the summer bulked up and I gained, you know, like 20 pounds came back Movement sucked, you know responsiveness sucked and I was actually, you know flat on my heels to where I like they would beat me off For the first step. So to me is at a disadvantage. So the next season a cut back down Got into a better strength-to-weight ratio And did way better like like phenomenally better. Yeah, no body weight training is great for this I mean Adam already mentioned maps anywhere Maps anywhere is designed without any equipment at all And it's probably one of the best definitely the best program we have for improving strength-to-weight ratio. I would say so Next up is Clubinator, what are signs that your body would benefit from increasing calories? That's a really good question. It is, you know, what's this so this there was an article I was going to bring up earlier. This is a great segue into it. It's perfect for this. So Uh, I've just read an article more science coming out showing that reducing Chloric intake so they took a bunch of people and they reduced the correlate Chloric intake by 15% and they they tracked them for two years. So for a while And they all showed signs of reduced or slower aging All the things that we can measure at least in terms of aging. Oh, wow, that's interesting Now we've we've known this in animals for a long time Like we know if we take a mouse we take mice and we feed some, you know, 20% less calories that they'll actually increase longer Like significantly longer like 30% longer And this is true for for most animals and it looks like it's true For humans as well. So here's what's interesting about this, right? On the one hand, there's that that we know If you can get by with eating less And your body can adapt to that probably good for longevity But then here's the flip side of that In the context of modern lifestyle You probably will want a metabolism that's burning faster or hotter Because the reality is you're so exposed to food all the time Well, this goes to this is where the explosion of ii of ym has happened in our generation is this Allows this flexibility of if you eating other types of foods because that's where you're going with this, right? Is that you know, you live in this modern era? Let's be realistic. Like it would not be advantageous to having a low You know calorie maintenance and then occasionally having a fucking whole pizza every now that or crush is now The benefits are gone You get now more detriment from the fact that you have a slow metabolism Then you would benefit because and and we're talking we're keep we're you know when i'm talking about this I'm talking within healthy parameters There's our there are situations where metabolism gets really slow Like you know, like if you starve yourself or anorexic or if you over train overwork yourself You get hormone imbalances and all that stuff that's not what i'm talking about I'm talking about the healthy range You know if you can get your metabolism to slow down within the healthy range longevity wise that's better But in the context of modern life Unless you're like super regimented about it and that's just how you live It's probably better to have a faster metabolism. Otherwise you gain body fat and then you get all the I think there's I think there's a sweet spot for everybody and I think we're all uniquely different, right? Like I I've been on both ends of the spectrum right now in just the last two years So right now being injured not moving around like I'm only eating once maybe twice a day right now Which we all know that's crazy for me I'm the one who argued always eating five six times a day because I needed to hit that caloric intake Now the the motherfucker of this is I'm back into training and my Now I'm starting to put on a little bit of muscle. I'm starting to go a little bit You know, I'm starting to eat a little bit more But I'm also having a hard time losing body fat like I normally body fat kind of melts off Now I have a lot of things going on with me hormonally and stuff like that that I'm sure play a factor in this But man, I'm I'm consuming very very little in comparison now I know when I was doing shows Consistently and training like that and eating five six times a day and having my caloric intake four or five thousand calories Man when I made an adjustment on my diet or did something where I just reduced Boy, my body would just respond and so it's less responsive to these changes that I do by adding movement or exercise Or reducing like maybe some foods that are not ideal in my diet My body isn't responding as fast because I don't have this kind of roaring metabolism That I've had in the past. So, you know, I definitely think there's uh drawbacks to both sides of that, right? So I think and then also having it so high to where I become dependent on four or five thousand calories It would also make it really tough for me to hang on to all that muscle mass because I'd have to be eating that much So I do believe that everybody has kind of a very natural kind of homeostasis that you find And any stressing yourself too much too high all the time and either too low or too high is not ideal I think the other side of this too is a lot of people do the reverse dieting thing Because they want to eat more food not because necessarily they're they're they need to you know ball damage Yeah, they have metabolic damage. So like like our friend lane. He just did a post Where uh, I guess his girlfriend holly is it's I guess the post that she finally agreed to reverse diet And he's talking about how the with the amount of muscle that she has the amount of activity she does She should be able to consume about 1800 and 1900 calories without gaining weight minimum But instead she's consuming about 15 or 1600. That's all holy eats. That's what it says Holy and he says he thinks, you know, he wants to reverse diet her to get her calorie and take up And I read that and I said, okay, I can see why because then she could eat more of this than that But was she unhealthy at the 1500 1600 if you had to pick purely on health Just purely for health and longevity Not lifestyle or anything else Would it be healthier for your body to be adapted and function and perform at lower calories than at higher calories? Let's say everything if everything was equal Would it be healthier to be able to consume less calories and more calories the answer is probably yes Probably yes, just from all the the current research that we have But again with the context of modern life It's you having that cushion allows you to go on vacation Have more flexibility enjoy yourself do certain things And so unless you're like this nutrition monk, uh, and I you know, I don't want to call it I don't want to be too joyful about it because I can kind of be like that sometimes and that it's not like I'm Trying to be super strict. It's just the way I tend to be If that's how you want to be then then that's okay But the the question and we shouldn't go I usually just flux it off of the activity levels And like, you know where I'm currently at and my training as far as like what my body like intuitively is sort of I mean You tend to crave you want to decipher between cravings and what your body actually needs of course because you can get tricked by that You know for sure like your body's telling me oh, you know, I think it's time for me to start ramping up my calories You know, like really is are you putting the work in for that? And uh, you know and I understand like the angle you guys are going as far as like reverse dieting and like somebody in that Sort of space But you know just for it like an increase of calories like just to to keep it kind of on a simple Um, you know thought process with that it's really like, you know, where where am I at as far as like my output in my work Well, I yeah, that's that's the other side to this question is, you know, okay We're we're talking deeper like metabolic damage and increasing your your calorie maintenance Well, how about somebody who's just on a cut right you're on your first week of cutting and you've been You know pushing calories lower lower lower like Some signs for me personally like I'm you you're watching me right now And if you watched my I've been posting my workouts and at the top of the first couple of days I was letting people know where my weight is now I'll do that again so people see but I actually do not for me. This is my body type This is what happens like when I start to exercise and eat better I I tend to lean out faster. Well, I don't want to see my my scale weight change really much right now I know that I'm exercising now. I'm lifting weights. I wasn't doing that just a month and a half ago And so I know my body's going to start to change so I don't need I don't want to see a scale drop So that's a sign for me that I want to increase my caloric intake if all sudden I drop, you know, three or four pounds Back to back days. I know that oh, I went too low on my calories I don't need to go that low to elicit change in my body. So I that's a sign I look for I also pay attention to When I'm lifting like if I've This is back when I was cutting for shows a lot when I'd be cutting for a show If I've done two or three workouts and I can just I can feel fatigued I I'm my strength is decreasing rapidly because I just do not have the gas in the gas tank That's normally a sign for me that I'm probably stressing or pushing the body too far with how low my calories are And so then I will bump my calories a little bit but Learning to pay attention to those signals versus what Justin's saying I think it's so important because I think a lot of people are like, oh, my stomach is growling I'm really hungry like this must mean I need to eat like, you know, it's like no, those aren't the signs I look more towards my performance And to give me feedback and then I look at any sort of dramatic swings Plus or minus so I know I use the minus, but I'm also watching because could happen You know, I I rarely do this but I could over gauge over consuming And I see a big spike on the scale and you don't want to see either one Yeah, I would say if you start to feel weak or like really weak and tired if you start to notice hair loss if your nails Start to weaken If you start to feel excessively cold or sensitive to to temperature changes Then that might mean that you need to increase your calories a little bit Next up is where the blazes Opinions are experienced with nerve damage and more specifically spinal nerve damage The pain numbness numbness as a result and potential healing and fitness in spite of it So, uh, to some extent, you know, the current Accepted medical stance is that nerve damage is irreversible For at a certain point right real point or nerve damage. Yeah at a certain point It can't it doesn't regenerate and then that's it now What I've experienced with clients in this realm is this If it's not that permanent kind of nerve damage And I've had plenty of clients come to me and say, you know, I feel numbness in my left arm Or my fingertips or my toes or I hurt my back and I feel tingling Or it's you know, easy one is like sciatica nerve where I you know, someone will feel Just tremendous pain down their leg or up their back and they can't Even move sometimes taking days off of work There's a multi prong approach One is uh, the obvious one. I think at least is obvious is changing and correcting, uh Recruitment patterns of the muscles so that there is no more nerve impingement or impingement in Whatever area they're feeling it. So For sciatica, for example, a real common one Would be I would look at their hip function. They probably had An issue firing their hips. They probably had some internal external rotating issues, uh at the at the femur. In other words, their their legs don't rotate very well And they probably have tightness In the muscles that kind of cover the sciatica nerve like the piriformis And so what I would do with that person is I would Train them to change their recruitment patterns so they move better And then I do like deep tissue massage or something or foam rolling on the tight muscles so that we could slowly Open up the area where the nerve is so it's not so impinged Now once you do that it takes still takes a little while Because it's like when you hit your elbow or if you ever press on your funny bone You got that tingling when you take your when you take your elbow off Whatever you're pressing it still takes a couple minutes for that feeling to come back So it could take some time and the second thing I do is I address inflammation Like big time, you know, I've had I don't know about you guys, but I've had a lot of clients who Just because they changed their diet Would reduce pain Chronic pain nerve pain in the shoulder and numbness things like that for sure So I opening yeah for a lot of my clients that have changed and adjusted their diet like that And then like it's just like the inflammation is just disappeared. Oh, it's crazy There's uh, there's studies now that are showing That some of this is that diet can make a difference with this I'll tell you what, um, you know, we just had uh max lugaviron and he talked about a study in 2017 examining the diet diets impact on Depression and they found that it was actually You know Dietetic intervention could make a big difference With inflammation or with that depression and that's because of the inflammation's role in depression and the physical You know sense where your brain is depressed and then that makes you feel depressed And they think that inflammation was a cause of it and they changed their diet and they fixed that Well inflammation affects your your your nerves as well and reducing your your systemic inflammation through Avoiding heavily processed foods Avoiding foods you may have intolerances to healing your gut You know, maybe some intermittent fasting Or maybe some prolonged fasting because that is very anti-inflammatory anecdotally speaking Do those do that and then see what happens. It makes a you know, huge difference. So very similar to you. Um I've experienced a lot of clients who think they have nerve damage But don't really have nerve damage because they have numbness going on or tingly or something like that There or someone's oh something wrong with your nerves possibly and so a lot of times it's that And it's not like real nerve damage. No, like you said like if you've got real nerve damage nothing I could not could be the greatest trainer in the world. I'm not going to potentially fix But what uh, so what I've done whenever I had clients that complain of that Which I know even if they do have nerve damage, this isn't going to hurt them is I address the nearest joint So I go like wherever they think they have this tingly numbness Nerve issues going on I look towards the nearest joint And then that's where I'm going to put a lot of focus on learning and teaching them how to mobilize that So and this is a lot of How prime pro was is is built and designed to use so if you're a personal trainer And you're always wondering like, you know, you or you have this too because this was a common thing for me I don't know how common it was for you guys like clients get this a lot So for me, it was the two things it was one is assess their diet And then get out any sort of like inflammatory type of foods that they're eating and try and eat a lot of pro inflammatory foods and then Addressing where whatever joints are nearest to where this they think they have nerve damage and helping mobilize that and so with prime pro We go through, you know, nine different major joints in the body And and show you how to mobilize that so and and I think just them getting connected better to that area It's amazing what ends up happening between that and the diet. I've seen a lot of relief I've found the same, you know, as far as What people think is, you know, more of a problem than it really, you know More detrimental than it really is where When they understand how their joints really supposed to track like especially with the shoulder of the knees like a lot of times, you know They're just out of that groove where it functions at its at its best And so, um, you know, the the nerve can be affected by that if it's, you know, being impinged at all in the process of, you know, movement So, uh, just how teaching them and understanding like where uh, where it is optimal to be and and You know posturally, you know, and then mobilize that and get them to communicate and and You know feel their way through that process really helps. Yeah, I can't I can't stress this enough diet makes a huge It makes a huge difference. It really does like, you know, Jessica had neck pain For a while and we identified the foods that cause it and it's anything that's high in sugar When she eats a lot of sugar for two three days in a row That she starts to get inflammation in her neck and she starts to hurt. Yeah Now she may have and I think she does in fact, I remember her telling me she has an actual Issue with her neck. I think she Was doing the silks one time fell and so she might have a disc that's slipped or a little bit of But that pain is not there unless she eats in a way that's inflammatory gets aggravated with the inflammatory She doesn't feel it otherwise, you know, and the same thing with me. I noticed when I start to eat bad I start to feel stiff and it's usually in the areas that you know It's always typically the same areas for me as well. So Diet makes a big difference. Don't overlook that. There it is Next question is from Eli Harjes 30 How to pull potential clients off the floor at a big box gym and sell them personal training Best ways to work the phone to sell training I was like, that's two different questions there. Yeah He he uh, he hacked the claw there He got two for the price of one well two for well played, sir um, so I used it. I used to teach something here. So that I don't I don't know anybody else that used to do this with their trainers Is I used to teach my new trainers and this was after Justin so Justin didn't get this training So he was already good before this. Yeah, I didn't need it What I what I later on ended up doing because a lot of times I would hire a trainer and This was a major challenge for them. It's always this is like the hardest thing, right? Yeah, because it's it's already hard enough for trainers to adopt sales and learning the whole sales process and work on art of communication That's already a challenging thing for a lot of trainers and then you ask them to go On the floor and rip them off the floor and that's your things. That's really really tough to do To approach somebody and try and rip them off the floor and hope in hopes to sell them So I would step them back and start with just like learning to approach and communicate with people the right way And I would talk more about that like is what that conversation the first conversation that you ever approach somebody on the floor looks like Get out of your mind that you're trying to sell them personal training or close them because that doesn't come yet You got to build that relationship first And now that can be challenging and it could take some time So what I would do is I would send somebody and I used to literally hold my trainer's hands like this So I would Pick a couple people who I thought were potential leads for them I've seen them working out a bunch. They kind of look like they're the same weight. Their body's not changing very much They're always doing cardio or something and I feel like this person or I've seen them reading them Reading a machine not knowing what they're supposed to do And I would point out some I said, you know go go over there and talk to the lady That's on the third treadmill over the right and just go say hi introduce yourself as a trainer Find out a couple things about her and her name and her family Maybe her age or what she's doing here or what she does for work just basic normal conversation stuff And I would send them to do that and they would come back and report to me and say, okay, cool Great, this is what we're gonna do now So I want you to have this little binder and I have a little binder for them or a journal And we'd write that person's name their age whatever information they're gathered And it's like something about them to remind us so maybe either either, you know Tall lady looks like this or wears this type of sneakers Whatever something so they can kind of remember who that person is and then we move on from that person And we go talk to somebody else Now when I've done this with somebody with like my new hires who I used to spend the first two weeks every single day with them We'd start to have like 50 60 people on this list And they would know all these little tidbits about them and I'd say okay Now listen now every time you see one of these people you've got this binder over here as a reference if you need it But go up to them and say something and make sure to point something out in the conversation that you have from the first time So they know that you listened you were actively listening And then I would tell them to do that and so then they walk up to that same lady who they'd see probably three or four days later And they'd say oh susan how are you doing? Oh by the way? How's the job going? You know how's the project that you were working on last week? I know you're saying you were really stressed with and everything like that Did you get it done in time? And I'll tell you what you'll blow their fucking mind that you remembered something as simple as that And already that will start to bring down any walls. They potentially could have now I feel like I can tell and I think most people that have this conversation when people are more receptive and open to Have a conversation with you once you get that feeling of them being open and receptive Now you can go in and say like hey, I noticed that you're always over here and you do this and you do that like What are your goals? What are you trying to do? And then you could start to ask them about what they're trying to do and then when they open up And they share with you what their goals are say. Hey, I don't know if you have time But I you know next week at this day or with that I do these free assessments for people It's totally free And what we could do is we could go over your body fat measurements all that stuff like that And we could talk a little bit more detail about your program and exactly what you're doing And if there's anything that I can do to help you out And then boom you walk away you do that with somebody Now I think as you sharpen this skill you can learn to do that on the very first time ever walking up And that's when you get really good as you can go walk to somebody and I could say watch I'm going to go pull that person off the floor and I can sell them training right now I didn't do that overnight that was it was a practice of communication and talking to these people But I think there is there's also a very systematic and Trackable way to do this and so keep keep notes It's a very simple thing that you can do that you don't need to share with anybody else as far as like other Members on the floor, but it's a way for you to stay organized and and remember these little key points You become that trainer who walks around and talks to people on the floor all the time and builds relationships with people Watch how many people you're ripping off the floor all those things be enthusiastic Be passionate be friendly boom. I'm done. I gotta go See you Justin. Have a good time, brother. Yeah, so You know my experience with this is uh, I mean what atoms I'm gonna echo a lot of what adam said But I want to add a little bit It's it was easier. It's easier for me. It was easier for me to train and teach trainers What to say once they had that assessment or appointment or once that person Is engaging with them that was a lot easier to to to teach them Or at least to train them on the hardest part of it is just walking up and starting the conversation That was always the most difficult thing to get a trainer to do. It's like once they talk to you That's that's that becomes easy at least to be people become more comfortable Then I can train you what you should say, you know, how you can present yourself How you can schedule an assessment all that stuff. It's the it's that first part is that What do I say to someone who's working out? What do I and so I used to tell this to my people all the time You have to first of all you have a lot of fear and that's why it's so hard for you Just go up and talk to people now. That sounds like stupid. Oh, you know, that's so dumb So I'll give me some more, you know some better advice and you just heard a bunch of really good Um advice from adam that was you know, uh planned out and structured But at the end of the day just go talk to people because the more you do it The easier it's going to get you have to go out and I'll tell you something right now And the funny thing is knowing what I know now After having my own private facility You know, I mean, you know much like how valuable it is it? Is it that you work in a gym with a bunch of leads? Oh gosh, that's for sure People don't even realize this if you're a trainer and you're in a big box gym And you've got all these people working around working out around you you're in a gold mine You're in a total gold mine because you could be a trainer in a private facility and never see another person working out Without a trainer right or never get a walk in or any of that stuff. So you have a bunch of potential leads First off stop trying to sell shit Right out right right away or at least stop trying to sell training right away Uh, you should always be selling but that doesn't mean you should be selling training So your goal should be to at first just talk to people just go up and talk to people Don't worry about being awkward or whatever just go introduce yourself. What are what are you guys doing today? What's your workout look like? Oh, that looks like a great extra doesn't matter Just talk to people get comfortable with that Then the second goal is Can I get that person to want to schedule an assessment or a consult or Or a free workout with me? That's really the goal when you're working the floor Your goal is not to sell training now. Can you sell training off the floor? Yes I used to do it all the time But those opportunities tend to present themselves But they only present themselves if I start to start the conversation I could probably honestly got it my entire career Working in fitness. I bet you it's probably less than 50 times Did a sale just fall into my lap, you know, I mean where someone just comes up. Hey, I want to buy training It's like I remember when that would happen every once in a great while and it was like Right, you know the sky opened up and the angels were singing. It was like that's super rare I usually had to initiate some kind of a conversation So practice practice practice just go up to people talk to only give a shit What you talked to them about complement their shoes Ask them what they think of the music. Hey, what are you listening to you? What are you working on right now? Just practice talking to people and then when you get comfortable doing that where you feel like you could just walk the floor and just Say hi to people and talk to people Then practice booking your consult and then from there, that's where you sell the training Now the second piece of advice is this it is way harder To pull appointments off the floor than it is to pull them off the front desk The front desk is easy compared to the floor way easier Because the initial conversation has already started. They're walking in the gym You're about to they're about to check in right scan their card Hopefully you're the one that scans their card So maybe talk to your manager talk to the front desk ask them if it's okay If you help at the front desk and scan people in typically it won't be a problem I'm sure they'll they'll probably be happy that you do that and then when you scan their card It's as easy as beep. Hey, john. How you do? What are you working on today, john? I'm gonna do a little you know, I'm gonna do a little full body. Hey, you want me to take I'm gonna take you through let me take you through an ab workout I'm kind of working the floor right now helping people out You want me to take you through a core workout some people will say no some people will be like Oh, yeah, fuck. Yeah, take me through an ab workout. Awesome. Boom. There's your consult right there Before you go out to the before you take them out to the floor to take them on a workout You tell them, okay, go change in the locker room. I'll meet you out here when they come out Follow me. I'm gonna ask you some questions before I take you through a workout So I know what exercises put you through now you ask them what their goals are you get their name You get their phone number you find out all their information whatever then you take them out on the workout floor You take them through that workout while you're taking them through that workout You point out the benefits of what you're doing you get them to agree with it So do you see how when I do crunches this way how you can really feel your abs working? Oh, yeah, I could really feel that you see how that'll make you get faster results Absolutely, and you do that for a 20 minute workout 30 minute workout You ask them how much time they have you make sure you you you respect their time And then you say hey look there's only about 10 minutes left I know you said you need to lose leave by six here. Follow me. There's some more stuff I want to talk to you about Take them back to your desk talk to them about personal training or Ask them if they'd like to come back for another free workout and then schedule your assessment But so the front desk is just it's money in terms of being able to schedule the front desk is money, huh? I love the front desk was like For me. I mean and here's the thing like I used to make announcements too. So I used to love doing this I'd get a new trainer Who I'd tell I talked to him about working the front and doing this and that and of course everybody's shy and has a difficult time And then I'd tell them and I'd have a fight had fun with it Let's say I tell you what if I get 10 new assessments in the next 30 minutes Then you have to go work the floor and talk to at least 20 people in the next hour Is that a deal and many times they'd be like, yeah, I'd like to see you try and get 10 assessments No problem. I go up to the front desk. I get on the intercom attention members and guests We have free assessments and training sessions available at the front desk I only have 10 available first come first serve and hang up and I'd wait and people come and sign up And I'd book appointments left to right and it's like it's not as hard As you think it is the hard part is just making that first Like that first step and then being okay with people saying no Like you're gonna get a bunch of nos You know, how many times would you have a trainer come back with? Oh, I talked to two people, but they don't want to be bothered So then they're afraid to talk to everybody. I think a lot of that It's just because trainers put you know when you're first starting off You put a lot of pressure on on yourself to go over there and say the right thing. It's like the pickup line thing It's like, oh, what do I say like to like dude? We just talked about someone asked about how picking up somebody on the gym Picking up a girl in the gym is no different than picking up a client, you know say it's like the same rules apply It's like don't go over there and say some stupid line or say some cheesy ass Like trainer line just to get them to buy like just go just go talk to people Now I love to I use the front desk very very similar to Sal. So I think those tactics work I had as much if not more success though from just ripping from the floor And I would like I would scan somebody and I would see who they were their name or thought that say hi to them Make, you know, oh, have a great workout Then off let them do their thing and I would watch them when they work out and kind of pay attention to what they're doing I can really look at somebody's like patterns like what do they go warm up? Do they get on a treadmill? Do they do stretching stuff? Do they go gravitate right to the machines? Do they go to the same comfortable machines that everybody always does? Do they you know, are they doing their form ride? Do they have a like I'll watch this stuff? I love to people watch anyways and you're in a gym anyways like a big fishbowl And so I would sit there and watch a member go, you know Their first half of their workout and just try and piece together. What are they trying to do? You know, what are they trying to accomplish? Then from there I go, okay Well, I see that she's obviously doing all these ab machine exercises And she's busting her tail on cardio. She's probably trying to lose some weight. She probably wants abs and everything like that So I know in the back of my head that so then I'm just going to go start conversation Once I get her talking conversation I might in conversation just nicely slide in there like oh, yeah So what are you doing goal wise that when she says it like oh, yeah, man, it's crazy, you know a lot of people They do a lot of the machine ab exercises to get abs It's one of the worst ways to do that, you know, and then I'll just keep talking But I dropped something that I know that she fucking did When was probably trying to do that which would instantly I know for sure if I just do it naturally in conversation Not like I'm talking about her I'm talking about people in general a lot of people when they work out and they want to see their abs They they tend to do like a bunch of machine exercises There's so many better things that you can do in order to see your abs And then I'll just keep going in conversation And then I know that I've peaked her interest because I know she was just doing those things And it's kind of like a takeaway close It's kind of like okay Well, yeah good to see you and then I walk away and if she didn't ask and then my I'm challenging myself like I need to keep throwing my my fishing line out there until she bites on something and ask me a question My desired outcome my goal is to go over meet this person talk to him and get them to ask me a question Once I get you to ask me a question now I can all come up turn around and offer a free hour with me now they've invited it Yeah And so your goal is not to get over there and to push something on them Your goal is to get them to ask you something that you have an answer to And so I would use information that I've gathered by watching them work out to put things out there Knowing that she's probably going to go. Well, what what exercises are better for your abs in it You mean the machines? I shouldn't be doing the machines like oh, well Yeah, I know there's a lot of things that are very important before You just start going ahead and using the ab machine. In fact, you know what Susan next Friday I have these hours or the boss lets me do a free Assessments on our members and help them out with things, you know Would you like to do that and see if she says no right right right? The second part of the question was best ways to work the phone to sell training Uh, good luck selling training over the phone. That's that's going to be very difficult to do Try to schedule free consults free assessments or free personal training sessions over the phone. That's really Uh, the only way to go selling training over the phone. I've definitely done it But it's so difficult to sell anything over the phone especially personal training because Unless that person's worked with you and seen you and already had an assessment with you people don't typically want to buy or hire a training they haven't met yet If somebody if I used to get these calls this would go through me for sure as the fitness manager all these calls If someone's inquiring about training, I would never sell training on the phone ever If someone asked me for personal training on the phone I'd say, you know, sir or ma'am that's impossible for me to tell you exactly what you need And so what I'd like to do with you is I'd like to invite you down for free. Spend some time with me Let me fully assess you. Let's go over your goals. I need to know how you've been eating in the past The way you've exercised is I need to see the way you move Once I see all that then I can better tell you exactly what kind of program is best for you So again, take away clothes. Don't try and sell training on the phone It'd be no matter what I don't care how good of a trainer you are if you haven't seen that person You really don't fully know what that person needs even if they're calling saying I just want to buy some training how much of the price is I'm still going to tell you Like well, listen and what depends on what you what you need And what I'd love to do is spend some time with you and and give you a free hour of mine And together we could figure out exactly what you need and I'll give you a program that's perfect for you Isn't that crazy works very well. Actually, um, we got a message from I don't I don't remember the guy's name I can't find it from a I think he's a fitness manager from a gold's gym And he says that his whole staff is what a cool What a great there was an email if you can find it, dude, I do have it I have it right here. It was an it was an email that was sent to ann And you know, I she's instructed to send over like, you know reviews and things like that when people say some really nice things And so the guy's name was peter I won't say his last name because he doesn't want people knowing But he's a gold's gym either owner or a fitness manager He says, um, just wanted to let you guys know that all of my trainers at golds are listening to at least Two of your episodes a week. I listen and read everything you pump out And we discuss what they've learned and how they implement it in every friday As well as talking about what worked and didn't work from the previous week You guys are an invaluable resource for me and my trainers We're about to double our best month ever and we're just half passed halfway through the month So rad, isn't that great gives me goosebumps. You're pushing their knowledge base their sales skills and people skills They're thinking critically about training focusing on client retention and taking a thoughtful approach to workout design and implementation They pull me every uh pull me aside every day to let me know of something new they've learned You've you've created subscribers for life. Dude, that's so rad and tell you what peter I don't know where you're at. I would love to find out where you're at because if we're ever in your city or in your town Um, it's a seven one four area code. Doug. I don't know if you know where that's at That's what his number is on here. If you're if we're ever in your area I would love to come by say hi do maybe a talk with all of your trainers. I would love it on our dime for sure And uh, oh southern kill. Oh shit. Well, we go down to the la area all the time So I tell you what peter stay in touch with uh one of us boys It's good. This is our this is our I mean that's like our total wheelhouse, right? So when I hear that we're impacting, you know our our industry at least the industry that the way that we used to be in it It feels good. It feels really good man. Super awesome to be here. Uh, check it out. Uh show notes I can't stress this enough awesome links in the show notes and there's also Studies and for recording a study or a news article or whatever That's the place to find it go to mind pump media dot com. 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