 Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I'm your host, I'm the end here, Krista Porter here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the Commission's weekly webinar series, where we cover a variety of topics of interest to libraries. We broadcast the show live at every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Central Time, but if you're unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's fine. We can record the show and it's posted to our website every week, so you can get all of our archives there and I'll show you at the end of today's show where you can get the archives and see today's recording later. So if you're unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's where you'll go. Encompass Live is for libraries of all types. Here's the Nebraska Library Commission for those of you who are not, excuse me, live on Nebraska people. We are the state agency for libraries, so we do training and consulting and grants for any type of library in the state. So public, academic, K-12 schools, correctional, museum, special libraries, yes, anything like that is what we do here, so you will find anything like that on the show. So we do a mixture of things here, book reviews, interviews, many training sessions, demos, services, and products. The only criteria for our show is that it is something to do with libraries, something libraries are doing, something we think they should be or could be doing, cool resources or products or services we think they could be interested in. We do bring in guest speakers on the show from both Nebraska and outside the state, but we also have Nebraska Library Commission staff that do presentations for us sometimes, and that's what we have today. Everyone here is NLC staff. They're all part of a group, a subgroup of NLC staff who do a Friday reads blog posts on our blog. That's why I asked them to do this. Every Friday one staff person here posts about a book they like or a book they read or they are reading a little review of it. And today though we're going to talk about some books we've possibly read, some we haven't. Today we're going to talk about a potentially controversial topic that people may have strong opinions on, and we definitely like to hear yours if you have any themes because we're this taking in. Books versus movies, the ultimate showdown, which is better? Is the book always better than the movie? Can the movie be better than the movie? Do you watch the movie? Do you hate all the movies and just want to read the books? I don't know. We'll find out. So I'm just going to have everyone here just introduce themselves briefly, just the book you are, what you do, your title, what you do at the commission, and yeah we'll just start with that. I was going to have you say, what is your thesis on this, but I don't know if it's that good or not. I'm also going to be just first, I'm the lucky development director here at the Nebraska Library Commission, and I don't think there's a one or the other. I don't think one is always better than the other. I think it can vary. Yeah. I got more to say, we'll get into it. So I'm Linda. I do the interlibrary loan lending for the commission. I do the interlibrary loan borrowing for school, rural, and special libraries that don't do their ILO borrowing and for state agencies as well. And what I think is interesting about books versus movies and storytelling is just the different ways stories can be told in print individually. I think that's an interesting thing to consider. Yeah. I'm Linda Sweet, the Technology Innovation Librarian. I do a little of this in that, but mostly I just get tech done. And my take on books versus movies is that sometimes they're good, sometimes they're awesome, but mainly I love it when movies are just so bad, they're good. That is a thing, yes. I'll enjoy that. It's okay if you enjoy those. I'm Allison, and I'm the cataloger. So I do all the cataloging of all the state publications that are produced that we have here. And I also teach cataloging classes and answering questions we would like to have about cataloging. And as far as movies versus books, it kind of depends. Sometimes the movie is better than the book, and sometimes it's better than the book. So I'm Amy Owen. I'm an Information Services Librarian, which means I answer questions to a lot of my friends. I also spend a lot of time looking for Bookface for the covers and for Bookface Friday series. And you manage the Friday read schedule and keep everyone posting. So don't look at the last few, I failed. Yeah, I think that, you know, it just depends on the book and the movie, but I like to be lazy sometimes and watch the movie first. So I don't have to imagine the characters on my own. Oh, that's what you're gonna argue with. It looks like somebody else started to write a novel. I'm Sam Shaw. I'm Planning and Data Services Coordinator here at the Commission and LSTA coordinator means I collect data as part of the Public Library Survey, publish our data. LSTA involves finding documents in the federal programs that we administer here. As far as book versus movies, I tend to gravitate towards movies because of time. That's a thing too, yes. Right now, but there are many examples I think of movies that do the book justice. And the important thing is that without the book, we wouldn't have a lot of the movies. That's true. And also I was going to mention, I believe this book just told me that it's your birthday today. It is also my birthday today. Happy birthday to you. Thank you. All right, so it looks like we all have pretty good open minds about this, which is good that it's just one. It is what it is. Now, Amy, you mentioned not reading the books first, watching the movie first. Do you think that makes it easier that you don't have to worry about when you're watching a movie? Oh, but what about this part? What about that part? Definitely. I think I'm less disappointed if I've watched the movie first versus reading it first because then I'm not expecting certain things to happen. And when they don't happen? Yeah, when they don't happen. Yeah, and the book itself is an expanded version of that movie. So that's what I was going to ask. Well, what if then you read the book and you're like, hey, they didn't explain that in the movie? That's a good way of thinking about it. Expanded version of it, yeah. And a lot of the things that have become movies lately or recently, less than 15 years, I read a lot of these books a long time ago. Yeah. And I don't know what some people, some people can remember specific little bitty things in books and know the entire thing. I know if I read this book when I was in high school, I loved it. I thought it was great, but I won't be able to tell you that they didn't put this kind in the movie. Oh my gosh, I can't believe it. No, I almost I read it like this year. Although this book you read in childhood, sometimes you can have a really deep emotional connection of that book and feel very protective of it. And sometimes then you might not give the movie a chance. Yeah, that's a problem too. I remember that like Little House of a Prairie, you know, I fell once when I was like eight, nine years old and my mom went and read it. I think like there was a movie, a TV movie or something. And I'm like, no, this is nothing like this. No, no, I can't do this. Yeah, because Paul looked like he walked out of like a 70s series. A lot of TV shows and movies made in the past less cared less about authenticity, I think. I think more recently they do care about making more of it. I mean, you had people in something like that where, well, I don't care that they didn't care that way. He's wearing a shaggy cut that that was right back at that time, like real time. Dr. Shavago, like they look fantastic in that movie, but they don't look like they were in the Russian Revolution. No, they really shut all or they look great. So, I mean, it's a fun movie to watch. So many schools too. I mean, think about the chain of problems and what their budget is. Or another age pro series, little big minds or thing. So we do have some slides here, some books that we had thrown around to talk about. So, let's see what we have here. So, Harry Potter, obviously. Huge. More movies than books. For myself, and I will, I'm going to, myself and possibly bother some people as that I am while I ran. I've never read any of the Harry Potter books. Really? I when it first came out, I was like, oh, wait, wait, what is it about? It's about some wizards imagine. Oh, I, and this is going to sound very pretentious. I read that when it was Lord of the Rings. I don't need to read it again. And I need to read this, whatever. Right. And when it first came out, and there's just one book, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, the very first book came out. Everyone might be crazy for it. Yeah. I was like, I've read that story, that story about wizards and magic before. And I'm not impressed. And it's great. I love that kids are reading and going crazy for this book. It really brought a lot of kids into the home that's so bad and they don't care. And that's awesome. But it's not for me, I'm not gonna. And that was just it. And, but then all the movies that come out and um, was just recently when all the movies were, well, they're now, they were HBO about all of them and said playing every single one. My husband, I sat down and it took us a few weeks. Watched all of it already beginning to edit. So I've seen all of the movies. And I thought they were great. They're great movies. Yeah. I don't know how it compares to the books. I do know that he was a little perturbed from certain things that were different or wrong in it. But he seemed to enjoy both of those. Yeah, there's only so much of the book that you can fit into a movie without it being a ten dollar small. True. So I kind of gave him a pass on some of it. In some of it, you can't recreate no matter how great the technology is. There's just some things that are, you're going to translate well to film, I think. And especially when, I don't know, when did the first straight part really came out? So 2001. Yeah. But then we have things like Lord of the Rings, which came out more recently and can do more with the special effects than that. Now this one, Lord of the Rings, I did read all those way back when middle school, I don't know, and The Hobbit read all of those. My mom was big into Lord of the Rings, so we had all of their books, all of his books. Are you surprised by how many movies they go out of the book? I was, well, I think all of these could have been one movie, one book, and it just makes sense because all of them were up until the end. And I think, I don't know if very far yourself have pressed it enough, but the last one, we're going to break it up and make it even longer. And I don't, all I think I can think of is they want to suck more money at it because all the other ones fit into one movie. Why does the last one have to be two? Why is the last one to be two? Hunger Games. Why does the last one have to be two when all the other ones all fit into one? You're blatantly just saying, we're going to make you guys pay us more money. And it's really offensive, I find. I think especially when it's a trilogy, like other games, it's already, I mean, there's something about threes, it fits so nicely. The Habit, I love the Habit book. I like movies. It's just way too long. The Habit's a small book, and it's a really good story, and it's enough for a movie, maybe two, and you already have to add a new version. Yes, there's that. I was just like, this is a drama one. The Lord of the Rings, I thought it'd be okay. Those are two big fat books. Yeah. Really, they're still chatting at his house. They haven't left yet. Come on. Oh my. This is a much more exciting book, honestly. It's not on this. It's a pack up your bag and some gum. I mean, I did enjoy it at the end, but it was just like, where's mom? Where is he? Get him in this movie already. Another one along the same line, Game of Thrones, huge set of books, huge TV series still going. And the TV series is ahead of the books. Yes. They were just going beyond. I don't know many other cases of that happening, or any other cases of that happening. So I don't know how he's going to write the next book, or like, what if he changes things? Hasn't it been delayed, like the final look of the series, or something? It's waiting to feature on the show, and so. I think that what you described George R. Martin described was that they gave him this truckload of cash. Yeah. He said, here's the general story. And so they're kind of going. They're kind of his outline. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So that's one that, yeah, it's not, the series is, the books itself don't have an end yet, because the series is still going. Walking Dead is the same thing. That comic is still going. The TV show is still going. And it's very interesting how you, I actually, for Dexter, I like both the book and the movie. And I mentioned Dexter because I've never seen him before. Okay. Well, I didn't even know the word. Well, I didn't know that there were Dexter books, but that's not the right time. But I love the series. The TV shows, I'm sorry. Yeah. I have a bone to pick with the way they ended the TV show. No spoilers to drive. So things have been written out for a long time. We'll be talking about certain things, but yeah, we'll give you a little bit. So it's, it's, I've had to often give them a pat. I like sometimes, it doesn't bother me when they bring in these things into some of these TV shows or the, or the movies, because I think if it doesn't totally screw up the story or make me think of this is not even about all that was in it, I'm willing to, I think I'm pretty open minded as telling people earlier. Yeah. I was trying to figure out, does the book point, one of the main point of the show is, is the book better than the movie? What books were really good and the movie following up was horrible and you were so offended and upset about it. And then the other way around, you know, the book, okay. And I was trying to find, think of books I've read and then when I, the movie or the TV show, I was so upset that it was done and put you wrong and I'm just mad at everyone. And I couldn't think of anything that I was that upset about. And I guess I'm just too easy that I just like, it wasn't horrible, but so it was okay. I lost my mouth. Yeah. That can be. I mean, one that I do, I mean, Anne Rice, Queen of the Damned, people have a lot of trouble with that. And that's the thing. It wasn't at all the book. So you have to explain, yes, like iRobot, the new iRobot movie, which one was that? The one with Wilsonette? Yes. No, don't use it. There's robots. That's not really the book and the movie. But it was a good movie. If you can just say, don't look at the book, it's okay. And they do say Wilsonette, I don't think, and I guess I don't think it's horrible if they totally didn't follow the movie, if they came out with a good movie. Or I can understand why they adapted the book the way they did, why they made the changes, like it just narratively doesn't work, or right. There's a lot of them. Yeah. Yeah. You can't get on screen without narration. Yeah. Yeah. I can understand why, but there's some things like under the dome. I'm not a huge Stephen King fan. And I've read some of his books, the ones that are kind of less four-ish. And then I watched the TV show. And I'm like, no, this is not how I visualize things. No, this doesn't happen. No, I'm just not watching this anymore. This is just not for me. And that's just me. It doesn't happen every time. But there are times when I can't deal with this. That's when I never read under the dome. Yeah. But I saw the show when it was coming out. And I was like, that's a cool premise. That's really interesting. Oh, and it's Stephen King. Cool. So I thought the show was really fun and bizarre and everything. But I didn't know that it wasn't like what was in the book. So I didn't get it. I was able to enjoy it as a crazy, maybe sci-fi fantasy. Is it horror? I don't know. Yeah. Stephen King, but it isn't always right to horror. So where's this thing going? Kind of, yeah. It's like, and it was awesome. But they didn't put the psychedelic turbo in the movie. Which one? Which it. There's been two hits. Either the old one or the new one. Either. Yeah. There's things they have to, you know. It was kind of cool that in the original movies, they took the movie from like an adult perspective, kind of going back to when they were kids. And in the remake of it, they started with them as kids. And then the second part is coming out later with Bill Hader too. It's great coming out. So something a little older than more recent ones. Apocalypse Now. And Heart of Darkness. I don't remember if I ever read Heart of Darkness. I have a read Heart of Darkness. Maybe it's a film that doesn't follow it very closely. And that's kind of one of those new space things. Right. Because I did do the research for things together. It's not even, it's not Vietnam, the book. It's before it's a book because it was written with me. It's something completely different. So what is it? Because this is what you had mentioned. Yeah. What's good or bad about the book. One thing that, you know, like you said, the disclosure is loosely based on the book. But for me, the movie was much better than the book. And I think that those, you know, talking about thematic elements like, you know, what was the very close to Coppola. Yeah. Translated, you know, the war scenes so well to film visually that, you know, and I think most people would say would not recognize Heart of Darkness, but they would definitely recognize it. Oh, yeah. I'm sure a lot of people won't realize. There's many movies, I think, because there's so many. Like you said, we didn't have some of these books. We didn't have any movies. And I'm sure a lot of people realize this in these teen film books. Certain movies couldn't have this. I'm not a Shakespeare just that. You didn't hate but you... Right. Yeah. That you don't realize, oh, it's actually based on the same clue. Clue looks... Yeah. Yeah. Emma. Yeah. Yeah. Good times. So, the kind of father, here's another one. I had not read the books by Seenall movies, which are, again, more on Miranda. Yeah. I don't know. That was just me. Well, I'll just say that I think with The Godfather, the first movie in the trilogy, three movies, was based upon The Godfather book, but there were no second or third books. Everything after that was... Mario Puzo worked with Coca-Cola again, and said, I'm going to write the screenplay for the second and third, and then subsequent books came out. Based on the movie. Yeah, and I think that's the same thing. I really liked the... I mentioned earlier a little bit about the HBO movie, and so I'm reading the book right now, and I think that's the same situation. They didn't intend for season two, but now the author is working with HBO to write screenplays for season two, based upon the characters that she wrote in the book that appeared in season one. So, I mean, that's really interesting based on the popularity of the film. And also the relationship with the film and the writer, which sometimes is not always good. Right. There are a lot of these that you're saying, except you said earlier, Stephen King hates all of the movies in the made of his. Most of them. I think he just involved it under the dome. Yeah. Okay. That's the only one I can think of on the top of my head, that I think she was involved in. Directly. She was involved in Rose Friend, too. Yeah. And that one that I can't remember the tale of. It'll come to me in about like 20 minutes. I can't word it out. Yeah. There's probably a few examples of movies, I think that we thought did this book stress this, but more often than not, you did not like. And maybe the authors need to make sure they are. Stay more involved in their connections. But although you said, even though he's involved in the dome. I don't think that it matched up any. I think for some reason didn't. Yeah. Yeah. Like they just kind of introduced all these new elements. And I just was like, whoa, hey, no, no, no, no, no, no. And like I said, I'm pretty sure he was involved in production of under the dome. But I could be wrong. It was. Yeah. I know when he changed his contract. So he could be more involved in my groupings. Yeah. But I don't know why he did that. Ah, now. It's a little different Jane Austen. Many, many, many adaptations have been done of many of her books. But this is a case of one. And we got to hear that there's been multiple versions of it. The BBC one. That's the one that is recently people are looking up with me. And then there's the more recent, the newer one here and I lay in it, which one, I don't know. Um, they seem, I don't have different each of that. Sometimes I want, this is something that I think about is each new production. Is it much different from the previous one? I don't think so. And it's much more faithful to the book. Than the 2005 production was. And also, yeah, I had more times. And also I remember, and I read this, this might have been to be Karen Knightley said about Pride and Prejudice when she was involved was she felt like the original BBC was more kind of like an adult version, like kind of almost the more idealized version of, you know, what life was like during Regency England in the early 19th century. Whereas during her Pride and Prejudice, it was more, you know, she felt like it was kind of, I think she used the word teenager a little bit, not in a kind of a derogatory sort of way, but just kind of the overall mood a little bit. I know the 2005 is kind of regarded as I think, I think I read somewhere I'm a huge Jane Austen fan and Pride and Prejudice was my favorite book. So that, you know, kind of Pride and the 2005 was kind of more of the arseier version in some ways and they did deviate. There is one scene in particular where Darcy declares his love and in the book and the BBC production, it actually happens in a house whereas in the 2005 it's like actually like it's a gazebo and it's pouring rain. Darcy is so dead. Yeah. It's still in my book. I guess that would be like a teen angst. Oh yeah. Yeah. But in the real, the book in the original it's like, yeah, it's just in there. Yeah. It's a big deal. Yeah. And it's, they made it more dramatic. They did. And I think this is, this is one case where I think both have their strengths. You know, I like, well, really all three, the book in the two movies and I like all of them. It's probably one, not just one, but kind of, you know, an example of where, you know, they did improve upon the book in some ways and that, you know, they had really great source materials to draw from to begin with. And there's just, there's something that, you know, you can't do in the movies that, you know, Jane Austen did in her books. Does Helen, did like the Darcy character actually dive into the pond in the book? I don't think he did. I don't think he actually does. Or I think like, I'm glad Helen Grip did. Or all of a sudden. So maybe for Sam, but. I mean, I think, you know, it talks in the book, you know, it talks about him being like kind of hot like right on his horse all day. But I don't think, you know, he actually, you know. Yeah. So also we have sense and sensibility and other. Jane Austen. Now, how did this one do? Um, I think, you know, again, it was another really good adaptation. Emma Thompson wrote the adaptation and won an Oscar for it. And, you know, obviously something's changed. But again, I felt like, like with Pride and Prejudice, she was very faithful to the overall story, the overall narrative to what Jane Austen intended. That's the thing, that's the thing to do. It's, do you think it's harder because we can't actually ask Jane. So like, you can ask Jane, come and, you know, help us make this video. And that's interesting. I don't even know what Jane Austen would even think about us turning her books into movies. I think she'd probably be surprised that 200 years later. We're still going through. Yeah, we're through. Yeah. And with sense and sensibility, which she originally wrote it, I think it started out as like a series of letters between the two sisters. And so that kind of explained some of the overall narrative structure of the book a little bit. But I think she'd be really happy with what we're doing with the books that your Hollywood and the BBC, they try to be very faithful. Yeah. And, you know, in capture because Jane Austen is so beloved and kind of like with Harry Potter, it's a very kind of divisive issue on the Austen man. Or somebody gets you and I didn't put it on here, you know, fighting prejudice and zombies. I don't know. I never saw the movie. And it's definitely a strong woman. We read it in what it was. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how much Jane Austen need. Sense and sensibility and sea monsters. Yeah. I mean, personally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those cases, you just kind of let go. Let go of the source material and enjoy the crazy. Yeah. Yeah. But I said, oh, we were talking about Stephen King. What do you need to mention? There's so much to say about this. Yeah. Because they're completely different. Yeah. They're completely different stories. This is definitely one I didn't think seeing Stephen King saying about the week. No. Yeah. I didn't think he was involved in that. And so if you actually go just to the Stanley hotel, they have all these pictures of that production. And how he was involved in that production and how he was unhappy with the production. and how he was unhappy with the fantastic Cuba, Cuba version. Was the original movie this one here? Was it filmed at the San Luis? No, it wasn't filmed there. It wasn't filmed in there. No, because Cuba was why he wouldn't get on a plane. And so they had to do things in areas that he could get to that weren't by plane. And the really dramatic opening footage is actually shot in Montana. Oh, from Montana. The beautiful, the beautiful landscape. Yeah. And so, yeah, in the, in the movie, there's only one or two things that actually one thing I'm not going to give anything away that make you think for sure this has to be something supernatural. Whereas in the book, it's definitely something supernatural going on. But in the movie, you can pretty much explain a lot of things away with an unreliable narrator. So just fancy the mental. Yeah. And that's another one where like, I think the shining difference is more into a horror of mental illness. Yes. Not a horror of supernatural. Right. And it's just probably why I didn't enjoy it as much. Horror of mental illness is just not my thing. Yeah. I'm trying to do this. Then you write some book about writers block like Stephen King produces so much work. He's so clear that he has to like write books under other names so that he doesn't flood the market with his own work. And then you go online. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's his big fear. Yeah. That's his horror would be. Right. But the shining also makes really good use of sounds like with the typewriter and was playing ball in the hotel bouncing ball. And that's the use of sound in the movie. It's something that you can't really get across in text. Not as well. Now. Yeah. So that's something they could make the movie better. And so. I'm going to put a lot of that. The movie adaptations for him. Yes. Yeah. The. Yes. And quote the rate. It's some sense of a pretty good version of that. Yeah. I love how a bit with. Yeah. See there are some annotations that are not these classic movies that are. Yeah. So that's fun. So, more recent ones. Ready Player One. Is that the year that we came out? Yeah, I think so. It just came out on DVD recently, so if you didn't see it from later. I reviewed this book for Friday Reads, but it came out in 2011. Right, it came out. So it was a while ago, but I had only recently picked it up this past year. And I really enjoyed the book. And I really enjoyed the movie that they were very different. Just again, because there's only so much you can fit into a movie. And then some things just didn't work for the screen, but the effects were amazing. The visuals were great. I got the book when it first came out because it just sent us something that was just for me. All of the 80s references from as a child and the pop culture and the D&D in there. It was just, and I read it and I loved it today. It was awesome. Before it was even thought of becoming a movie. And then when the movie was being done and there's all this questioning about, well, but they're not doing it this way. No, I don't know. I'm going to have to see it. It is so different. It's not at all. And you're talking about watching the movie before reading the book. Or watching the movie before reading the book. It was not at all like what I pictured in my head from reading the book. So maybe the scenes I had trouble matching them up with what I remembered from the book. And this goes along with, I read recently, not 20 years ago or whenever I was in high school. And I had a really, I'm like, where's the scene? And so I had to go back and think about it again and then kind of rethink, oh, that must have been this thing. Well, I was picturing that being completely different than that. So it's kind of like it needs a rewatch, I think, for me, just trying to match up the things that I just didn't. The movie I saw was not the book I read. Yeah. To me. It had a lot of cool pop culture references. Some were missing for me, I think. There's a lot of things that I was looking forward to. And this is in those cases that I didn't see. But then in the end, I really liked the movie as where it was. So I guess I do have some that I don't agree that the book was the movie. Not that it was, the book was better, but the movie wasn't faithful to the book, which is different. And the description of the main character, too. Yeah. Because in the book, he was more of a husky gentleman. Oh, yes. And in the movie, he was like, he's not not a husky. Yeah. I wonder about this one, because the book is not as old. So, no, this is not one that Steven Spielberg, he's the director, right? Yeah. This is not one that he read as a child, like Emma Thompson. Yeah. And so he didn't grow up thinking about how he was going to make this into a movie. He probably got attached to the project after it was already going. And the book is a tribute to him and George Lucas. So, I mean, it's all, it's, you know, it's true. That old man. Yeah. That old man. Yeah. Absolutely. No, that's fine. Another recent one. And this is one that actually is, because he had the idea for the show and right at the same time, because Linda was supposed to be in Friday Reads about Jarvan. This is another one where the use of sound is really interesting in the show. And which they couldn't do in the book. There's a lot of roller stating in the show. And if I had read the book first, I would have probably wondered where the heck roller skating came from. But it kind of makes sense because the way it sounds is really interesting. The way it makes the characters move visually around the other characters is really interesting. And it helps further the narrative in a way that it would have been kind of silly to have in the text because it wouldn't have the same effect. The performances are fantastic in the show as well. I started reading the book after I started watching the TV show. I started watching the TV show because of who was in it. I thought Patricia Clark was an amazing young man. I really like Amy Adams. I'm not remembering her name, but the woman who plays the younger sister is fantastic. And the slipper son I've seen her in anything. But I know I have friends who are big fans of the book that did not like the show at all. Because they had a strong connection, an emotional connection with the main character. And the director did do a lot of, took a lot of liberties. The show, there's one whole episode about California days. It's not on the book at all. But it was a really important episode. And it was a really visually interesting episode and helped us understand the characters more. I recommend it both, but they're very different. So you mentioned watching the show first and then reading the book and Amy, you talked about that. And I'm sure others have done that. Has there ever been a movie you've seen that you know is a book that means not wanting to go back and read the book? After the fact, let's say I either, I love, I think it can be for various reasons. Princess Bride, I've heard horrible things about the book. I haven't probably read it on my shelf and I was going to read it. But I still love that movie. It's such a like nostalgia. That's my childhood right there. I saw the movie and then read the book. And I can understand why they adapted the book or yeah, adapted the book to the movie the way they did. Because the way it's originally written, it just, it doesn't, it wouldn't work as a movie. But someone with Rob Reiner had the idea, I can make this fun. I can make this a thing. Yeah. And it really does hold true to the intent of the book because in the book, I think I can say this without giving too much away. So the author of the book, he's recounting how he, he heard the story that Princess Bride as a child. And he's like, I love this book. It goes great. And so he goes and he finds the original book and he's reading it to his kid. And his kid is like, this is horrible. I don't, I don't get what's going on here. There's all this like, well, just that. But there's all this history about these, you know. And so the author is thinking, oh, my dad told me the edited version. That's the thing that the book actually, the subtitle, if you look is, it's the good parts version. Yeah. So there is this book, The Princess Bride, which is something completely different. It's like the book within the book. Yeah. Yeah. From what the actual Princess Bride book is that you will read because he's, you know, Yeah. Oh, it's the good parts version. And then that's what the movie is, is also. And so, yeah, the movie is very faithful in that respect to the book and trying to capture the good parts. Right. And they don't really address them as blatantly as it is in the book, except for where, you know, the grandfather is saying, I'll, you know, I'll leave out the kissing parts. But then, you know, it's okay. You can go ahead. I guess it's all right. It's really cool. Yeah. I don't know if that kid, which is purely through the whole reading of the book. So yeah, it is interesting that the, you know, I'm not reading anything that just didn't want to. Sideways for me. Yeah, that's what that's. Yeah, we do have that. Yeah. I love the movie. I love there are some books. I didn't know those books at all. Did you ever even go back and read it or? No. I haven't checked out. You don't have to. It's all right. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if this is one. This is another one. And now we know this from looking and trying to find these book covers and whatnot. It's been pretty difficult. I was trying to find original like the first editions of one of these books. Of course, after the movie became big, there's new versions of the book that were published and wondering based on the movie or whatever. And this one, it was really difficult because the book and the movie came out in the same exact way. And I don't know if this is one. Yeah. And then there is actually a, there's a two sequels to the book. Self published by the author. Which is very weird and interesting. I don't under, you know, why. Yeah. And it's interesting. Okay. It's sideways. The sequel is called vertical. And then there's a third of women. So they do wine. They do. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. That reminds me another one. Actually, the TV show, the leftovers. I really like that. A lot. And then I went to your. I heard it was based on the time, right? Have you read it? I really liked the series. I wanna back to reading books and I think I heard in the first one it's like. I think I picked up the knife. images I have in my head, and I like to show so much that I put the book back on the shelf. Yes, same thing. It's okay not to keep going with the book if you don't like it. Don't be scared. There's so many books out there, like, a limited-life thing. Now, here's a couple that Sam mentioned there. Yeah, I mentioned two words. More, yeah. The first one that I thought was really good at it, adaptation list of a fan or brother. That's yeah, that's what we have here. Really liked the book. Really liked the series. The second one was Unbroken, which I love the book. And I don't know if it's just because the book delves so much into this aloneness of him and what he went through personally over a long period of time. You really can't cram that into a short movie. So when I saw the movie, I didn't really have those same feelings that I did when I read the book. Or maybe it was just adaptation. Maybe it was just I wasn't buying what Angelina Angelina was selling. I didn't feel that empathy that I felt for him when I read the book when I saw the movie. I think that if I just saw the movie without reading the book, it would have had a really hard time to have an empathy for him. So it's interesting that the empathy you felt for you in the book didn't come along with you already when you watched the movie. A movie can be so badly is the right word, but done that even though you already had that feeling. So you went into the movie thinking, oh, I'm going to be really, this is going to be a heart wrenching and that didn't carry through that the movie can completely break you from that preconceived and say, oh, no. That was my experience. I don't know whether you will have that same experience or not. I actually watched the movie first and then I read the book and I kind of liked it more than I should have because I think you're right, I actually read the book first and then the movie went on in the morning, but it's one of those two years ago. And that one for me was saying that the book was like an extended version of the movie, that it got me more of the background, more of the what the movie was just starting to get it into me. Like the movie felt unfinished to me, which is why I went to the book because I was like, I feel like there's a good story here, but it's missing some stuff. And there were some really powerful scenes in the movie itself. And then the book just kind of cleared up some of the answers for me. What about Ben Brothers then? He said that, and then he'll let it go. Well, I'm a huge David Moose fan of the work that he's done. And I think that just for me, it's just, well, I think that Stephen Ambrose was involved with the Ben Brothers, each big project too, probably helped. That helps a lot, yeah. They really liked the book. And I think that they did a good job of, I mean, there's an example of trying to cram everything on one, two-hour movie, whereas with Ben Brothers they had where they can tell that story and introduce, you know, a wide variety of characters too. And I think with Ben Brothers, they grew from other accounts. It wasn't just Ambrose's book. It was, you know, they grew from other. I think a lot of the soldiers had written their own accounts and they were able to do a lot of research and bring that in. And I saw the miniseries first and then I read the book. And I like the miniseries much better. And part of it is, I have a background in history and Ambrose kind of has a bad name among historians because he doesn't, he didn't cite his sources very well and or quotes or ideas. And so that really kind of colors my, whenever you're reading any, whenever I read Ambrose, I'm always like, wow, dude. You talked about source material. Like if I remember, it's been a while since I've seen the series, the HBO series. So if I remember right, the actual characters, they interviewed them at the weekend. They did. Most of them are all the episodes and they kind of described what they experienced. So I think that when they created the series that helped them as source material too, which probably made it more accurate on. But yeah, the miniseries is phenomenal. That's, I love it. That's great. Interview of the Vampire. This is one of mine. Interview of the Vampire. This is the original, the first edition of the book, which I read when I was in middle school or in school. I don't know. Another one is from my mom. She had, I read it. And then it's one of those, and I have this happen a lot in the movie. They now sort of did it in the movie and I just went, you know, they were crazy. Oh, this is a movie of a book that I love to death. And then they mentioned Tom Cruise and my heart sunk. How, what, no, I'm crazy people. And then I, but I'm open-minded enough to say, I'll try it. I mean, I don't think I've ever not completely watched something just because I thought, are we crazy? Because you know what? Somebody must, it's where we swore with other things, other TV shows or movies or things. You don't think this effort can do it and they just are completely transformed by their own acting or the direction or director, whatever makes it work. And so I said, let's go and want to see it. And it was awesome to me. They, every, my, it was like they went in my head and took what I pictured and put it on the screen. And I mean, it was just one of my favorites. So this was one of our, like, and I wouldn't say the movie is better than the book. I said they're both great. And they, to me, it totally, there it is. Holy crap, it's on the screen for me. Yay. So, yeah, I had fear, fear, fear. And it was just like, right up there. The curly hair of, oh my God, yeah. It took me a second to wrap my head around Kristen Dunst as a tiny vampire. I remember it, I'm sorry. I remember an interview she complained that Brad Pitt had chat blips. Like they were really dry. She was like 12 or 14 at the time. So Brad is not a big gizzer. I didn't even thought about that. You were going to even say that? Um, I, that was an interview with Vampire. I was one of the first books on CD I ever listened to on a long car ride. And it was great for a car ride. It was, it was a great thing to listen to going down the highway. And I, I could not picture Trumpers in that car either. And I had a hard time listening to the movie. Yeah, I just had a hard time with him on screen. But I think a lot of times Vampire movies, I was thinking about Dracula. And I mean, the, the film versions of Dracula have absolutely zero to do with, usually with what's in the book. But even ones that try to be faithful like, uh, Francis Ford couple and directed Graham Stoker's Dracula and you can tell by the title that he was trying to make it more faithful to the book. But that one is honestly, laugh out loud bad. So bad. It's so bad. That is what I recommend. But how are we going to watch that one? It's funny. And it might not want to be funny. And intentionally he made a good movie. Not the one he was planning on making. Oh, right. Right. Um, priceless. Yeah. And this one too. I was looking so forward and they started making more movies. And then we mentioned, um, Clearly Damned. And it was just like, oh, no. God. All right. They are coming out with a, there is a TV series now being based off of this, that and Rice and her son, Christopher are involved in their developing right now. I am very interested to see that because I don't think she was involved in this movie, but she was, she, she proved it at all. She was, she did say, she did, she made, she did the same thing. Oh, wait and see. And then after she said, he did it. Yes. He is my. That's bad. He's my, it's, it's all, it's what I was. Yeah. So she approved of it. And now they're working on, um, Are they going to take the start to Atlanta's? Well, they're starting with this. So. Okay. Too calm to desire it. Oh, yeah. Uh, Trance, why here? So we got some more, um, Well, in fact, I'm going to say, look at the movie. So I don't know which way, just just another example of one that I thought, um, would be was better. I haven't read the book. I've seen the movie. That is the book. Did they use dialect? I don't know. I can't send it on these dialectic, uh, in the book. Do they have the accent? It's like a new. Well, I don't know. Well, they spell it. I don't really know. It's been so long since I've read the book. I just want to get an accent. I don't remember. It's been a long time since I've read the book. Maybe you did. I haven't read the book in a long time, too. So I like the movie. I've seen it. So thank you. Yeah. And why is this another one of those? Like, I saw the movie. Crushes. And I didn't want to touch the book. And that's mostly because of that. I couldn't map. I had it around the, the rodents line. Yeah. They do. And I don't know that. And you have to, how do you do that? You have to concentrate. Yeah. I want to record horns for the another example of that. Just next. Yeah. The one that would, for me, at least can be hard to read, although I think Michael Sauer's, yeah, I'm not going to just read it. But for me, yeah, it would be a hard book. Or a fight club. If anyone read my book, I'm going to press that. I've read others. I've read the fight club. Because I was living in Portland at the time. And so I like the Portland books. They're, they're different. I mean, he has such a, he has a unique style of writing that is enjoyable and easy to get into. But then, I, you know, right, it really makes that movie happen. Yeah. It really makes that story sing. So just wanting to have an optimist in that. And there's like, you know, a point. Yeah, yeah. Some movies are not rewatchable, you know, because of, well, as rewatchable, I guess. For me, that was, that was not a book that I ever read, but I heard great things about the movie. So I, once the movie, I did not watch it. Fight club? I used to, I didn't get the point of it. It's like, I, in fact, I don't even think I finished it. That was, I, yeah. I was like, I don't understand this. Yeah, I have a hard time with the movie too. I have, I've never read the book, but maybe those want to go back and if you have time read the book to, as, as, as they get more of a story, something, I missed something, obviously. So let's figure it out. Yeah. Maybe I think get into character sense more, so what's going on? Because I didn't get the visual. So it's a very, it's a crazy, yeah. Crazy, tons of everything about it. I was, I remember at the time being mad that it wasn't, it wasn't Portland enough. Maybe it wasn't Portland, then at the point I was living there in the 90s. We have your, oh, now we've got, I just want to let you know, it's about a little after lunch, we started with a month or 10. We're going to finish up with this last few things we have here to talk about. So if you do need to leave, that's fine. We're recording the show, and the whole archive will, we're currently waiting for you to watch later. So here's one, Anne Green-Gables. They've had a lot of adaptations of this. The one I remember most is the one there in the middle. And right now on Netflix is they come up with Anne with an E. Is Anne seeing the Netflix one? I've watched a few episodes of Anne Green-Gables together, but it's very dark. It really goes into the next row. I was reading that it's not this, yeah. She's a lot of flashbacks to very abuse and other problems and where she was. So she's often like, go against these horrible past episodes of what has happened to her. So I've been explained a lot about her personality and how fantastical she is about her imagination. Now, the book is dark, that way. No, no, no. That's something they created for. And this is a Netflix thing. They take a lot of your fun, these things like Archie and whatnot and just go crazy off of you Ben. I don't know if this is going to go that far off of you Ben, but. Yeah, they really went a long way with Archie. Like the first Anne Green-Gables had more of that whimsy tune. And that's kind of what I liked about it. It was like pure imagination. And it just kind of progressed through the, they were actually like green movies. There were, they were sequels. Yeah. And they kind of combined a lot of the books, Anne of Abby, Anne of Green-Gables, Anne of the Islands. Yeah, and then let's go with, this is the bottom of that one. I see it does say five disc collector's editions. Yeah. I'm just going to show you something like that. And Anne with me is probably more of an inspired one in my mind. And not really capturing like recovery's, you know, flimsy. Yeah, it's probably realistic about it. What it's working with gone through at that time. I think that if the book had been like that, no one would have read it. Because no one wants to hear about it. Not that, but it was written in that. Young adults were one with some fun. And yeah. And then we also had Little Women, which has been, and we were talking about this earlier, remade a ton of times. And it's going to be remade again, past the ones that I have here. I read Little Women almost again when I was a teenager. It was awesome. That went on a ride or that Little Women there. That was, I think, pretty faithful. And I don't know. Yeah. Question of it. It didn't bother me at all. I enjoyed it. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, it was fun. Nothing too earth-shatteringly different. I think pretty much just told the story again. Yeah. There have been some other adaptations that I remember too that we were looking at. The Captain Hepburn as Joe. I remember that one seeing this Natalie Lennon one. Is that the same? She's like, was she in one? I don't know. We were looking at something to try to find. Because then there's also one that has maybe a lead to an Alice Allison. I mean, there's just so many of them. Yeah. And those older ones too, I think were pretty faithful. Yeah. And then we have this one coming out this month. Where they have brought it to modern. I'm interested in just kind of what the film is directing. So what do we think about that when they do? This is something that's been about the many books they've brought. They've like updated it to be modern. I mean then we talk about things like Coolis, which are taking something that you don't realize was something other, you know, a book. And making it something so new and different than what you knew. And you can match it up with that. This one, they're blatant to say, this is a little women, but it's like, I think it's, you know, some of these stories are so timeless, you know, their experiences regardless of when the story is set. That we all have. So there's also one called Sense and Sensibility, but it's like S-C-E-M-T-S. And she's like going into perfume tails. And I was like, that was actually pretty good. That's a deal. I'm just interested in it. Yeah. The general themes of the story were still there. They just kind of updated it quite a bit. Yeah. This is going to need to have a lot of things. I mean, a lot of the things that women had to do with, because of when it takes place, the original, certain things women cannot do are not allowed to be involved in and how they had to fight for it or do it certitiously or whatever. They're going to, I mean, I'm kind of interested to see how are they going to have those same kind of struggles, but now it's not an issue. Certain things are not an issue. So, and I like, you know, something I have to say to you, and yeah, this is one of those. I have movies that I'll go to the theater to see because I have so much to do. And so I'm going to go to some of those on TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On somewhere, yeah. Right. Anybody out there have any, nobody's commented anything about what we've been talking about here. Anybody have anything they want to say about any of the titles we talked about or anything you want to mention? We do have some, just type in your question section, let us know. So any other books you want to talk about that we would kind of go the hour here for you all? Here at the Library of Christians, this is something that Amy mentioned, I don't know. We have book club kits here that we check out to libraries across the state. And well, they're kind of self-explanatory. You get a set of books, multiple titles that you can have read together. You can also, we get some of these kits that do include the movie. So I saw, if you just check that little box. Yeah, there's a little box over here that says Movie DVD. Yeah. And if you check that, I'll show you. And then hit that, and then hit search. And then it'll show you all the ones that we have DVDs of. But we also have a lot of books in that collection that have movie versions that we don't happen to have the DVDs of. With October coming up. I don't know if you can guess, but I like Halloween a lot. But we have Frankenstein, which is a fantastic novel. And you could have a lot of fun reading that as a group. And then watching any number of versions of Frankenstein and see how they're nothing like the book. Frankenstein inspired Netflix show that came out. I forget what it's called. I forget I mentioned it. Sure. It's a show time. And then you go, I mean Frankenstein is a good book. Frankenstein is a good book. Anything of this kind. Yeah, first science fiction novel written by a teenage woman. It's pretty fantastic. The Frankenstein Crankies? Yeah, it even had Frankenstein in the name. Oh, yes, Sean Bean. Yes. Yeah, I remember that. Yes. Oh, someone did mention the Aragon books. The Aragon Dream. Dean Mixtra says, the movie destroyed everything. Stroud within the air. Don't ever do that to a movie again. There's other issues with that. We don't need Dean and Mixtra. I took the time to see every one time when it came out. And then my kids wrote it too. And because my kids and in front of it, I could never read the book. They really enjoyed the movie. And it's visually stunning. But in the end, it leaves a lot out. People are saying that they were so excited about it because reading it as a child. Yeah, that's what I have for real emotional actions. And then it apparently didn't do so well. Well, it did. But as it's own, yeah, it's, yeah. Yeah, if you haven't programmed the book, or if you can disconnect yourself enough and say, you know what, I'll need to just enjoy it for what it is, which is difficult in that kind of connection. But even the time that I spent when she was 11, we had to explain a lot of things after that. She said, why did that happen? Because I don't think it just wasn't long enough to be able to get the whole product across. Wonder why things happened. So, yeah. How do they talk about the handmade stuff? Yeah. Oh, VNL? VNL. That's a bullshit line. So, yeah. Yeah, I know. We haven't, we haven't. Sorry, I'll hear what you're doing. No, sorry. Yes, we'll probably be doing this again in a year. Some else says Lonesome Dove movies benefited the books, Dave as well, that, yeah. So here for our book club, kids, this is the library questions website, and also at Nebraska.gov. And if you click down there, you get our, this one, yeah. So, now, can we just search this to just give everything that comes to DVD? Yeah, just, yeah, yeah. Okay, so we just raise your button for that. Yeah. Search. And then, and then everything that comes up says, would DVD available? And you'll see it, tell it to you here for people who hasn't been, they see the shifting copies of the book, also one video that you can be copy. So, yeah. Yeah. I think it's gonna be. So, yeah, you scroll down, you'll see. Do you want to go next time? I was just thinking about October. And we can search for it. But this is, so that, so if this is something you wanted to do in your own book club, as Amy described, she said, you could get the book club, read the book, watch the film, and are you excited amongst yourselves about it? If you're in a book club, have it, one of your book club meetings be, is the book that you're gonna, we're gonna all watch the movie and find out. Say what we think. So, one other thing I have on the slides to is, a website that I was led to, and we've also said that you're trying to do this as well. Yeah, where you can sign up for like, and you can go in and search the website, but part of it is like, they encourage you to sign up for like weekly or bi-weekly updates of like, different movies that are available for screening on various services. And a lot of it is stuff that you might not have ever heard of. And it tells you like what service it's available from. And that's what this one is here, it's a justwatch.com. It's, it's not a place to get like pirated movies of these, or where can I watch this for free without having to pay. The idea is you look up the title you want to watch, and then it will tell you where it is available, where it's going to be available, is it available, you know, if you have a Netflix subscription, if it's to rent from Amazon Prime, or whatever, you can do this. Also, though, we should borrow from your library too. Well, you're just, this is our book club kits that we were showing you, go check your local libraries if they have them moving on. They can then compare to one another. There's lots of things around the streaming and lots aren't. And your local library might have coupons and coupons of streaming service. Right. And they may have some of the older versions of these, like the little women ones. There's one in the 1930s that kept happening around in 1940s. That's a benefit you're not probably going to find on the streaming. You're going to need to, you want to go and work with those. All right. So any other last minute words of wisdom or questions from the audience? As you see, we've been talking about a lot more titles here. I hope we shouldn't mention this. This will probably come up again. Maybe we have a large group of people here that do do our Friday readings, as I mentioned. So maybe we'll have some other people around that want to talk about what they think about those. All right. So I'm going to pop you back to the website. And we're going to get our Encampus Live web page up. Now the Encampus Live, so far, is the only thing on the internet called this. So I guess Google us or search us with your search engine of choice. You will find us in our archives. Our recordings still here. These are upcoming shows, but our recordings go right here underneath. And the most recent ones are the top of the list. So today's will be there, probably the end of the day today. Everything processed. 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