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Here we go Do you hate nickels then you're a money bigot But if you just want to get rid of them go to daily tech news show comm slash support and give them to Tom and company one podcast at a time This is the daily tech news for Friday November 19th, I know it's not Friday November 20th 2015 Who did that? Who thought they could Ron Burgundy me Friday November 20 15 on time or does someone changes it right there in the dock join me today Derrick kitchen is with us. How is it going at hack 5.org Derrick kitchen so much so many fun things going on over here We're we're making the podcast or releasing the teaser videos. It's it's a good. It's a good week It is it is same here. Good week Having fun Len Peralta is here to illustrate the episode. How's it going Len? It's going really really well I am excited and hopefully today's image Will be something that people will enjoy Oh, yeah, yeah, because what because I because I'm not one to make things that people don't enjoy but we'll see you You always top yourself somehow. I don't know Lots of Cleveland illusions today for you rich. I'm sorry rich I called you rich because rich from lovely Cleveland Didn't pre-roll and I assume all people in Cleveland have the same name. Yeah, you can call me rich I'm okay with that He's rich on the 19th. We have another Cleveland delusion coming later in the episode state It's a teaser to keep people interested. Stay tuned for the other Cleveland delusion One podcaster might not make it Here are the headlines some users of ad block plus are reporting that Yahoo mail gives them the following message when they try to access it Uh-oh, we are unable to display Yahoo mail. Please disable ad blocker to continue using Yahoo mail PC world asked Yahoo about this and Yahoo said this is a test We're running for a small number of Yahoo mail users in the US to see if they hate not being able to get their mail I guess I had the last part I took this so much further Tom and I actually not only signed into Yahoo mail But he actually signed up for Yahoo mail With in Chrome with images cookies and JavaScript disabled across the board And I was able to no problem it kind of nags you and if you don't read it It seems like oh, I have to have but there's a little ink where you're like, okay You can still get your 1990s era web mail on so I wonder if you just used the Yahoo mail in that sense is it still going to become an issue and well and you may not have run into The a B testing that they're doing because it's not every person running ad blocker who gets the message It's only a percentage right but I mean if you disable images and JavaScript, you're not getting any ads anyway So turn off the browser. No, but that's actually a seriously Serious tip for all the people especially if you're like, I don't know if you're from the US and you travel internationally And you you're on like a data plan where you get like 3g with like a hundred megs Disabled JavaScript images and cookies Maybe not cookies, but it'll make the web 10,000 times you do privacy badger for cookies I highly recommend it recommend it because it only blocks cookies that it detects Tracking you across multiple websites So you're login cookies the cookies that are set by the domain you're visiting are okay And aren't blocked whereas if you just turn off cookies You can run into problems like that if you want to use those kind of cookies But the cookies who are like trying to see if you're visiting other sites after Facebook and then give you ads Those are the ones that end up getting blocked. Yeah, I use that plug in as well. It's good stuff cartoon Badger, oh, yeah, plus you get to look a little cartoon badger. He's got a nice little smile on his face and you can go wow 30 cookies recode really Listen Google Docs Only 11 in my Google Doc right now LG told Android police it is canceling the release of its watch urbane second edition LTE LG said the cancellation stems from a hardware issue which affects the day-to-day functionality of the device and quote The decision was made to cancel the rollout of the urbane second edition LTE due to the complicated nature of the issue LG said it will decide at a later date whether the device will be available in the future So we don't even know if they'll come out with it They don't know whether they can fix this issue and Darren I know you were digging in a little to see if you could figure out what could be the problem here Yeah, there's definitely something fishy going on here if you read through the comments on the Android police story One of the entered police Reviewers actually has this on his wrist. So clearly the device has been made So at this point though the question is like what would be preventing it from entering the market? My first thought is maybe they just weren't granted one of the numerous Certifications that you need to bring an LTE product to market that that stuff is crazy pants when you actually talk about Getting a device certified not just by all the regulatory bodies, but the carriers to use their networks They have to like take your device around the United States connecting it to various cell towers making sure it doesn't blow up the world And the other question is like well did Google slap them with a large trout? Bearing it being like something that just explodes on your wrist I feel like I'm not buying it that it's just a technical issue that they found in QA at the end of the product pipeline Although one of those compliance issues where they thought oh, yeah We just need to do a couple more tests and we'll be fine And then they find an unexpected result Does sort of fit the behavior here The reason being in the product development you go like full bore building it with the assumption that everything's going to pass with Flying colors and that yeah, you're gonna be out of the gate as soon as you check the box Why you can send out your vendor review it checked. You're not getting out the gate. I'm just saying I don't know It just sounds really fishy. I'm not buying it. I'm literally not buying it because it's not coming out Well, yeah, you can't you cannot buy it. Well, what what would be the reason then for doing this? Um what that you would buy? Oh Wait, what's the reason that I would buy a smart one? What would be the excuse that you would buy? Oh? Well because I wouldn't want to because Bluetooth because we can all agree that collectively the Bluetooth sucks and LTE is better Okay The Samsung Gear VR started shipping today for $99, but that doesn't include the compatible Samsung phone Unless you already have one or the noise cancelling headphones Which recode says is something you're probably gonna want because you want to really immerse yourself in there Samsung Galaxy s6 s6 edge s6 edge plus and the galaxy note 5 all work with the gear So if you already have one of those you're part the way there and it has Oculus software loaded with 360 videos games and Netflix this is the first officially not beta shipping hardware for virtual reality ish. No controls It's just tilt controls. I guess But you you pre-ordered one right Darren. Oh, yeah Mine's I'm pre-order would be an H photo and I got an update this morning like just couple hours ago letting me know It's still out of stock. Oh, I can't wait for there They're saying December 10th, but the fact that they're shipping a few early Hey, you know get the headlines while you can get people in on that pre-order I'm excited for I never pre-order tech This is one of these where I just want it as soon as humanly possible because I've I've been there Tom I've played with the Innovator units and we'll talk more about that, but I believe in the dream of VR. It's not just for the 90s It's here and the dream of a are as Volvo showed off its partnership with Microsoft to use Holo lens For something the demo allowed journalists at the LA auto show to visit a virtual showroom Do things like customize a car with color and trim to be able to see what it would look like if they ordered it that way Volvo says it will experiment with Microsoft and using Holo lens with customers next year So you might find it in a Volvo showroom near you two companies are also working on autonomous cars together says Volvo It's really cool tech will save it for later. Yeah, it's this is more of a like Hey Volvo Microsoft working on stuff might see a Holo lens if you visit their showroom and do some nifty things with it But that that's the tip of the iceberg and you know, Microsoft is out there already working with NASA with Holo lens And they're gonna let students at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland Play around with these soon as well. My son goes there See told you there we go. Well, now you can stop listening. That was the other Cleveland illusion But we'll bring it up again in the VR story Vorhal Vorhal to our lots ours wanted us to note the tech radar report that researchers at the University of Glasgow and the University of Turkey Have teamed up and discovered yet another way to produce large sheets of graphene in a more cost-effective manner Which will someday lead to really long-lasting batteries graphene researchers are always hoping The team created graphene on top of affordable commercially available copper foils and this saves them a lot of money The foils sells for about a dollar a square foot compared to the $115 a square foot for the copper that was currently being used for graphing production before this study Research paper was published in scientific reports. If you want to go read it Yeah, Tom, don't don't get too excited about this because you know as we know Whenever newer and faster chips come out OS vendors find a way to make the new version sluggish despite the higher clock speed So you're saying even after the years we all have to wait for this to become common and then the week-long battery life Yeah, no end up being two days because when we finally get that week-long battery life time We're going to have operating system updates and app updates that make sure that they'll drain before five o'clock. Yeah Probably just as you get on Bart. Hey, you know people familiar with the matter. Do you do you know any? I am familiar with the people familiar That's one of my favorite blogs in fact people familiar with the matter calm go check it out folks People familiar with the matter are telling Reuters now that Google wants to launch a Google Play Store in China sometime between February and early summer The company hopes to use Alipay and WeChat payment systems Integrated into the store Google would not need approval from the Chinese government But they would have to comply with Chinese laws on content filtering and store app data within the country The store would be set up specifically for China as well and not be connected to other Overseas versions of the Google Play Store, but this is a significant step Darren Google was very adamant that they did not want to go along with these things that were happening in China and they were upset about what they Assumed were Chinese backed hackers Trying to hack into Gmail and they moved their operations to Hong Kong now They still have a sales office in China. They didn't totally move out of the country But this would be a move back towards saying we're sorry China We do want the billions of dollars your consumers spend. Yeah, see they took the high road and it cost them They did they partially pulled out of the China market in 2010 and At the time they had like a 12% share of the search market not great But considering now it's like 1.7% and like you said, yeah It was claims of Chinese hackers and it was the censorship So it's interesting that they're going back now and it's like, okay. Well, we're cool with the censorship I guess let's just like try to sell you some stuff because I mean I hear that that western export of movies and games does really well Um, maybe more so than they will make in search But uh, then the question will become like what happens when the play store gets hacked Yeah, and I guess you can rationalize that if you're if you're trying to be google Which by the way my wife works for youtube which is owned by google which is owned by alphabet uh, you could rationalize it as I am giving a store To people in China to make apps and put their apps in the store And so those people have to follow the rules of their country. So we're not really censoring we're just follow, you know what I mean like it's it's It's an argument that you could poke some holes in but it's different than search where you're saying wait This is an this is a site that exists You're telling me not to tell people that exists to set up a a store that is operating only within china Is to say well, we'll only let people in china sell things that are legal in china. That makes sense No, no china is very uh familiar with the concept of the store They in fact opened up their very own apple store in recent years It's a fake apple store, but it's a store nonetheless. There are real apple stores in china. Okay, don't confuse the people Don't confuse the poor people there and I know Writers reports the federal aviation administration in the united states will submit recommendations for registering recreational drone operators on saturday the recommendations are expected to require Drone operators to register through a website or a smartphone app if they own a craft that weighs 8.8 ounces or more A registration number would need to be attached to the vehicle the fAA will then consider the recommendations after they're published on saturday Allow for public comments And then move towards an interim final rule to be developed for release next month I love that we can have an interim final But that's the way and you know what's going to happen after that is we're going to have the final final rule It'll be the final underscore to be The revised final final rule, right No, this is great. I'm I'm so excited about this news And here's why 8.8 ounces is 250 grams and uh, I'm assuming they mean all up weight here Or if it is the battery actually even better and here's why Given that we don't have a whole lot of choice in the matter Because they're going to take the public comments and they're going to take these recommendations from the industry And they're going to just kind of like let it make hot love that brings us regulation So that's kind of just already going to happen. But see here's where it gets cool in the last couple of years There has been an amazing sport FPV racing has has come up and these racing classes Have so far been measured The 250 class is the biggest but it's not 250 grams. It's actually 250 millimeters rotor to rotor So it's just like a quadcopter about this big usually Well, when that scene boomed we saw huge innovation Lighter parts cheaper parts smaller parts That have now enabled an entire new class a subclass of this multi rotor racing industry That is the sub 180 millimeter FPV class and it's becoming more and more common. It's they're they're uh, so much lighter So, uh, like like for example, this is a 180 class Which probably isn't going to do anything to a commercial aircraft if it hits it But it wouldn't because i'm not stupid and won't fly it in aerospace But um, this is only 100 or 240 grams and it gets even better when you look at the even smaller ones I think this is 110 millimeter and it's only 93 grams So we already have the technology now and it's only going to get better because of this so if anything it just feel like like If this exemption is true We're going to see a hell of a lot more demand in innovation in that department And that's going to benefit the whole model community as a whole Uh, despite my typical and the happiness with regulation But that's just what I I like the fact that it's going to legitimize the sport And I like the fact that it's going to create innovation And I still should say for the record screw those noobs flying DJI phantoms over airports that are ruining it for all of us That notwithstanding. I'm okay with this. Yeah, I So what you're saying is a this encourages a lighter faster Quadcopters and such to be made and b it seems like a reasonable red requirement Um, I still hate the concept of registering in a federal database to have any sort of fun But if they always make an exemption where you can have this much fun without registering then I'll go play over there And in all honesty, I prefer the smaller quads anyway. So for me personally, I just think this is good for innovation Um, and I mean like you look at the actual the commercial Uh drone regulations that are proposed. They're all talking about there's a classification that the uh, fea uses that is under 55 pounds 55 pounds in metric is like a ton Yeah, that's a lot of weight 1500 grams Fast company reports new balance the shoemaker announced a running shoe model that incorporates a 3d printed Elastomer made midsole. They'll sell a few In 2016 and hope to allow customers to customize printed midsoles in 2017 3d printing allows more flexibility and design And less waste of materials because you don't pour a mold or then cut off a bunch of it You you can precisely print what you want. Uh, there's also the promise of customization to say like, hey, I wanted to do this I wanted to do that as the customer However, 3d printing still costlier for shoemakers and slower than traditional methods The new balance shoe will be available as a limited edition collection in april in boston But I think it's fascinating to watch this aspect of 3d printing They've been making spike holders for athletes Where they go and they customize these particularly for the weight and the size and the and the foot shape Of particular athletes and they can't do that for everybody. They can't scale that To everybody But that's led to competition where now new balance is going to be the first one to sell these at retail and say, hey You know what these these are going to be customized to you Maybe these don't make sense in price or customization advantage to the general consumer But style is going to make people want to buy these so they can say they bought one And that's going to help new balance refine it and maybe get us to the point Where they're cheap enough to make and fast enough to print that that we can revolutionize shoes So you could walk in and someday say like here. Here's my foot print me a shoe Yeah, no, it is very exciting. Uh first real quick, uh correction. It's It's 25,000 grams not 2,500 grams for 55 pounds Because I know we're going to get a lot of email but no, I'm very excited about this It is freaking sweet to think that in the future you'll be able to walk Into a shoe store have your foot like laser scanned and then have a specific insole for you 3d printed on the spot And that's going to happen. There's like there's nothing stopping that If you look at the evolution of 3d printers, they're getting so much easier to use so much less expensive I'm saying this is great for everybody. Bring back the spoke Yeah, I I'm fascinated by this I I I want to watch this and and if you read this fast company article Nike New balance bunch of companies are in a race to be the first to make this happen And new balance is going to be the first to go retail Those are lifestyle brands and they have to sell you on that. This is Your shoe, you know, and so the first to market with this is going to do really well And anybody that doesn't have this going forward. Oh, you're you're wearing a pair of rebox Yeah, that's that guy's rebox and that guy's everybody but you're wearing the same shoe everyone else is Yeah, you know, I and and the high school track now will be Competitive, I don't know Sony confirmed a wired thursday that it is working on using ps2 emulation To bring ps2 games to the ps4 euro gamers digital foundry reports that the classic star wars ps2 titles included as a bonus In one of the star wars battlefront bundles uses emulation. They're not ports of the games and that's how Wired decided to go and ask sony about it and sony's like, yeah, we don't know a lot to say about it But that's that's what we're working on. Yeah Yes, this is this is pretty cool. I must say It's been working for the ps1 at least i've been playing the original tomb raider on the playstation tv And that's an emulation and that thing's only using an arm processor So this is totally possible. In fact, there's a Kind of like early beta version of a ps2 emulator for android That was kind of launched back in july that looks pretty good So there's no reason why they couldn't and they definitely should because of the we Market has showed you anything people will rebuy stuff they bought years and years ago just for the nostalgia factor Yeah, and the xbox one just got limited Backwards compatibility to xbox 360 games. So it's it's kind of One of those is the way to do it right? Yeah, don't don't let them play the disc Charge them for it. Even though they own the disc And that oh by the way, though, and I think in the xbox one if you bought it You can still get it without having to pay for it again. That's cool. And that's a look at the headlines Hey folks submit your stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com That's what lets us try to pronounce names like vor harl Or obituele kundul say And you could you could just have a more easily pronounceable name and still submit stories And vote on them and helps us create the lineup dailytechnewshow.reddit.com get in there and join the 5 000 people already helping make the lineup every day All right, we heard about samsung gear vr shipping Uh, we heard about volvo using hololens Uh the vr this is the beginning of vr vr vr is shipping to people today for real not a developer edition Uh, not not a piece of cardboard No, no infants attended like a real made thing from oculus in partnership with samsung is pitching is shipping today Which made darin and I wonder Well shoot man in a year from now There's going to be all kinds of vr We're all for all intents and purposes going to have a chance to have vr in our homes if we want What are we going to use it for darin? Oh man, we are going to well the first thing we're going to use it for actually is to talk about vr Um, just like telephone comes out People use the telephone to call other people on the telephone and talk about how great the telephone is I believe we're talking on this telephone No, no, I joke, but that's you know, you look at the early adoption of podcasting It's mostly tech podcast talking about how cool podcasting is this happens with all of the new technologies I'm also really excited because this is not something like came out of left field We've been promised this since the 90s, but in the same Sense that oh, yeah, we totally had computers in the 50s and we totally had the internet in the 70s except Yeah, no not really So this is like the you're right in that it's the first like consumer like I go and buy it off the shelf And I'm like in it like that in this modern day and age Where I can just take my note 5 which I specifically bought just for this reason Um, but yeah, I do believe that the first thing that we're going to do is ool and awe at the few demos that there are available and Yeah, that'll be phase one Yeah, well, we'll be the hilarious and amazing startups though that try to take advantage of it because we're the other thing It's like the web right when the web first came out everybody is like, oh, we're going to sell pet food But on the web, you know, we're going to advertise to dogs, but on the web We're going to deliver your groceries through the web in our fans So That's one of the things that already I can see being a differentiator Which is when I put on that virtual reality helmet, uh, and I can't remember. I think it was ari kessel All who wrote the recode review of the gear vr But when I put that thing on no, it's kurt wegener. Sorry I am alone So I think there's going to be Obviously, there's going to be a lot of demos allowing you to explore worlds right to to wander around in worlds and play games and do things like that I think one of the first ways we might see are ways to communicate with other vr helmet folks We're going to see attempts to make the metaverse Oh, yeah Go out there and play and and and stanford's uh folks in second life are already on this They're already positioning themselves to provide one of those worlds Yeah, world of warcraft would be a totally different experience if you could do it in vr And mind you though, we had this ability with vr ml to interact with other vr agents in uh over the web before but it Was kind of crappy and it's so immersive. I've tried this. I um, I must say like I'm a firm believer in this I ran into the Oculus guys at showstoppers no less at ces before anybody knew who they were I tried out the demo with tf2. They were just some gamers way before facebook now that this is coming to the consumer market It's very exciting because it's it has the potential to be like a new web all over again Where if you don't if you have an existing Established property where you're really good at selling movie tickets or whatever it is that you currently do on the web And you don't have the ability kind of like with mobile you didn't get an app You didn't get on the on board that you'll have that you'll face the same thing with vr Once somebody cracks that uh and makes it ubiquitous where if I can't shop for movie tickets in vr Oh, I wait. I have to take my goggles off to get the movie tickets. No way It sounds ridiculous like why do I need vr to shop for movie tickets? You don't need vr to shop for movie tickets Listen to what darin just said you want to be able to buy the tickets without having to take the helmet off Yes Yes, that's that's exactly it So I I'm just imagining that if anything this will open up a huge opportunity for a lot of startups to Upsurp a bunch of existing established brands like imagine a fandengo Didn't get on you know the app bandwagon get an app out when it was hot if they don't get a vr app out When it's hot then somebody else could go like hey you're in your little you know metaverse And you want to go see a movie with your honey later But you know you don't want to take the goggles off obviously right so it's it's right there It's like it's why do you buy domino's pizza and wow because you type slash pizza Yeah, I I think that's why social networking and communication and instant messaging one of those is going to be a hotbed because Twitter is not going to be On top of this. I don't think maybe i'm wrong. Maybe there's some guy at twitter laughing his ass off at me right now Saying I've got the perfect twitter port for vr But I I think a lot of people are going to rush in and say hey We're the social network native to vr that allows you to use the the the capabilities of vr to their best advantage We haven't really seen A hot good social network recently well that they're very mature That that'll actually interestingly be the nut to crack to get vr into the mainstream In the same way that like the internet wasn't mainstream until you could what the two pillars of The internet aside from the epicness that goes on on reddit all day long But for the mainstream i'm talking about shopping and social networking and so you know until those two pillars exist for vr It may not go mainstream. So let's hope and let's be thankful in fact You know that a social networking company like facebook bought oculus because otherwise We may not have the ubiquity that is required the uh the chicken before the egg So that we could even have those cool esoteric projects those open source vr worlds that you know You and I will be building like minecraft Pinterest Oh, yeah See see this is the thing you're doing it right now. This is so some guy did this in the 90s. They were like Pinterest like magazine clippings. Yeah, but on web Oh, let me throw money at you. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Um, and I know before we get off this topic that you Uh are a fan of the quad copters of the the unmanned aerial vehicles. Yes, uh, and uh, you can do some pretty cool video Recording with those. Uh, can these two worlds intersect at all? Uh, yeah, I've seen this firsthand. It's pretty amazing. Um, I will say that um, essentially What's what's really beautiful about specifically the um the gear vr Uh addition of this is that you can sit in a chair and spin around 360 and not have to worry about a wire granted The oculus rift is going to come out in q1. It may have a wire I'll probably still get that too anyway just for video gaming But uh as far as quad that's really important though being able to sit and spin in the chair 360 without getting tangled up In wires is really important because um, I'm talking about this sport of Of fpv quad copter racing and what it essentially looks like is you put on a pair of goggles and they're not as cool As oculus, but they're okay and you can see through the camera That's in the quad copter and when you take off and you start, you know Banking around the turns and and competing in a Slalom course with other quad copter racers. You feel like you are that craft Your brain is actually telling you when you pitch to the left that you're pitching to the left Which is why you sit down because otherwise your body will actually react and start pitching to the left I'd probably throw up this thing, but it happens vr is fun. Um, and so It's a really immersive experience and you feel like you're pod racing or something Um, but there's a huge barrier to entry to this amazing sport. First of all, it's all hobbyist grade stuff right now So everybody's building their own it takes hours of fine-tuning and testing and soldering and mathematics and software to make these things fly and work but And then once you do all of that you have to actually have to be a damn good pilot as well So you have to have hours and hours of experience flying them even without the goggles before you can start doing that But if there is a commercial version of this that allows you to just imagine instead of the complicated controller a mode 2 Spectrum imagine let the left stick is throttle and you've got your l rons and rudder and all that stuff to worry about If all you have to do is imagine a quad copter with a 360 degree camera And it can see in all of those fields of view simultaneously And you getting that video stream beamed down to your oculus goggles can just look around And I want to go that way. I just look that way and the and the quad copter turns and there's no There's it's it would be an x configuration of the quad copter because there's no front to it It's not you know, you're going forward or backward relative to the craft you just look where you want to go So the control scheme in that sense Becomes just a button for go And maybe a button for stop or let go for stop or whatever it is that would totally take this to the mainstream Yeah, some kind of pressure sensitive button so that you can adjust the speed maybe but that's yeah It totally simplifies things And I've seen um tech demo. I've seen experimentation in this direction And I've had the unique opportunity to be a part of that in some ways and there's no like Anyway, it's just it's going to change the world. Yeah, it's I've put on the rift and I've looked around from a quad copter's perspective um and Because I want to be a bird to hum Because I want to leave because while while virtual reality is really cool in that you build a Completely different world that you leave this world and go into and that's really what it is when you put those goggles on And while augmented reality is cool and that we add stuff to the existing reality There's this weird hybrid that is flying these quad copters where it's like vr Except you're in reality. Yeah fly through the real world. That's that's crazy. There's that one's amazing Our pick of the day comes from jeremy who after listening to us talk about black friday and deals on yesterday's show Thought he'd share a shite a site. Uh, it's a good site. It's not shite Uh, that I've been using for about a year to help me with amazon purchases says jeremy It's at camel camel camel dot com and you can use it to search amazon or put an amazon url directly in it And it'll set up a watch on that item You can specify a desired price for the item and it will notify you when that price is reached When I have things that I'm interested in but I don't need it immediately. I throw it up on camel camel camel I believe that it gets some of its money via amazon affiliate links on the items But I think that's a good trade-off for the service saved me some money and I thought I'd pass it along camel camel camel dot com Thank you jeremy send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com You can find my picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks a couple more black friday emails In regards to yesterday's show mink said i'm with you on black friday deals And I liked your discussion on them, but i'm surprised you didn't mention snubs Since she's all about getting deals when shopping Maybe it just slipped your mind or maybe there was some reason for it. No, it's totally forgot. Uh, I asked because What's that did you snub the snubs? I did not mean to snub the snubs and her amazing couponing Uh, I asked because she immediately came to mind when that question came up So yeah, uh, I know she used to put up a lot of coupon stuff on instagram And then she separated that out, but uh, just go follow her on twitter shannon morse and You talk about a girl who likes a deal Uh, that woman likes a deal and she's good at finding them too Did not mean to snub the snubs Uh, then finally on dts 2628 listener han stoppable asked where the best deals for black friday are located tom and justin pointed out that most deals are shams But the staff at wire cutter slash sweet home Do the work of finding actually good deals on actually good products. They're picky Since november 1st, they've looked at 18,000 plus deals and have only deemed 127 of those to be good enough to feature But I look at wire cutter weekly and check them out on black friday So go to the sweet home dot com slash deals or the wire cutter dot com slash deals if you too Would like to take a look at this and I I must have cut off the person's name Who sent this in but uh, yeah, oh is a d d8 uv thank you for uh for sending that in Uh, that's that's a good point if you want to save the time just go to the wire cutter dot com or the sweet home dot com slash deals And uh, and let them do the hard work of sifting through the bs for you Thank you for sending that Uh, and thank you darin for joining us. Uh hack five stuff. What's going on? Oh man, we've got a great episode on hack five dot org right now all about brute forcing Radio doing a bunch of hacking stuff with it. It's it's really fun. We're kind of on a radio kick right now because the Mike osman's yardstick one gadget came out and it allows you to do a sub one gig or hacking so we're kind of like all over that because it's like We're now moving into this world of internet of things where everything is zigby and bluetooth le and stuff like that And z-wave, but there's still all of these devices that were wireless before And if we're right now in the uh internet of things you can think of the previous generation of like the dial-up of things And they're all super hackable So learn all about hacking your garage door remote and your key fob and your light switches Over at h a k five dot org And follow on twitter twitter.com slash h a k five darin hack five darin Thank you. Len peralta has been drawing the future Yes, yes, I have been and uh, you you asked them pretty interesting questions And it was very fascinating to hear what you think VR was going to be used for Here's what I think what VR is going to be used for I think it's going to be used for producing This very show we're listening to this very podcast we're listening to daily tech news show and that is what the image I've done um That you know, it's it's uh, everybody including myself wearing these vr helmets Darren asking Roger has the glasses on on on top of his uh of his vr helmet Um, I think you know, it's uh data tech news show november 20th 2016 You're all you think you're all shiny for some reason. Yeah, because in in my my avatar. I probably am native stars Uh, darin doesn't want to take off his helmet and jenny and roger are um asking. What is produce? We'll see what happens But they have tablets in their heads too for some reason That's just crazy. It's doing. They did some tech there. They needed some deck. This is what the video show will look like Uh, you know folks versions right there'll be if you're in azeroth with us you But as a video viewer on on the youtube, you'll just see us with helmets live This is what you're gonna see if uh, if you turn into the video show in any year from now That's what I think that is excellent. I like that you also drew by brand new shirt from the mr Yes, actually I uh, I did that on purpose I wanted to make sure that I got that in there because that's very important and I uh, I think that's a great tip This is excellent. Len Peralta store.com folks. Go take a look. Uh, not just at this But all the stuff that Len draws is amazing. And if you don't you can check it out Also, as you mentioned black friday black friday is coming up. There's all kinds of great stuff Uh gift ideas prints including The daily tech news show instant art collection version one and two is both is in there as well as some really cool Dts stuff. So yeah, if you get a force awakens poster, yeah, you got that's that's in there, too It makes a great gift. So check it out All right, folks. Len Peralta store.com and of course, thank you for being a patron of the show in some way Patreon.com searching for daily tech news show and finding us that way Going to daily tech news show dot com slash support giving us a dollar on paypal Or buying one of those beautiful new dts mugs. I know a lot of you. I've been picking those up. Thank you I hope you enjoy them. I think they're pretty amazing. So, uh, You make the show possible. You're the reason it exists If you get value out of it, we just ask that you give a little value back daily tech news show dot com slash support Our email address is feedback at daily tech news show dot com and give us a call 51259 daily That's 5125932459 catch the show live Monday through Friday 4 30 p.m. Eastern on alpha geek radio dot com and diamond club dot tv Visit our website daily tech news show dot com back on monday with veronica belmont talk to you then The show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants dot com Why does that keep turning itself down? I don't know. That's weird. It's a weird soundboard glitch Um So good Thank you. It was it actually it worked out pretty well because I was thinking this is what we're going to be using it for right? Yeah, yeah Well, what our show look like inside of virtual you're also you're always so good with the little details like havin roger's glass Well, we would obviously all be avatars, right? Yeah, and on griffins. That's part 25 I'm on a wyvern personally The future are watching dts there is that not only will we be avatars? But the viewers will be able to select from a number of themes and our skeletal interactions Will just if they want us to be lizard people will be lizard people At a certain patreon level you actually get to choose the you unlock the lizard level They turn us into razor tusks and during the middle of the show somebody on a quest kills 10 of us to you know Oh my god Oh, man, you know, I'm with you time. I think if I ever put this thing on I would throw up all over the place Getting a little bit. We're getting past the age of You'd be surprised I get sick on a teacup ride at cedar point. So That's a vicious ride though. Let's be honest. It is. No Yeah What are we gonna call this show while Google plays by china's rules or what's in store for google in china? Here's my foot print me a shoe I like that I like the shoe around your foot. I like ps. Sony is bringing two to the four. I like that one too Here's my foot print me a shoe is great virtual reality is now reality Oh, I like tindex vr What is it good for? Yeah, but we do you know how often we use that Come on construction. It's not it. It's a chestnut for a reason Just say why we used chestnuts. I thought there were snow clones That icu has a great michael jackson one and would just The are not alone Um, let's see definitely helps with the singing. Yeah. Yeah virtually ubiquitous Facebook attaches to your face That was pretty good I'm gonna have to take off saying i'm going downtown By the way, if anybody is listening is in the cleveland area and if you're a fan of mystery science theater 3000 you may want to head out to negative space tonight. I will be there with frank conif and traceable you Oh, nice as they riff Glen or glenda tonight, I believe tomorrow night. They'll be there as well if you can't make it tonight They're gonna be riffing plan nine from outer space. Oh, wow And you you can also you can also get the original poster I created just for the show Which is uh, is really cool. So uh, i'm heading out there right now to go eat dinner with them. Tell them I say Fun Yeah, please do if you're a mystery science theater fan you deserve to come out and if you're in cleveland This is a rare moment when they're here. So hello, cleveland Keep circulating yourself to yeah, excellent excellent. Yeah, uh, all right cool. Then I will see you. Oh, wait There's no show next week. Uh, correct because of the black friday holiday where americans mourn their shopping Uh, it's time it's time to go after the waffle irons. We will be doing our headlines only show All of us will be tearing after waffle irons and tearing each other's sweatpants off It's gonna be a great day. No, I will be starting at 3am tearing your sweatpants off. All right All right, thanks for the tip, uh, tom. That was really excellent. This I'm gonna check out a little more in depth I think I think I got a winner of uh Of a of a gift here this subscription service the clothing subscription. Oh sure. Yeah, no, I hope I hope that Serves you well. Oh, I think I think that's gonna be a great gift. So awesome. All right. Take care guys. Bye. Cheers. Bye A subscription service for ugly christmas vests and sweaters Just around the holiday times. You can buy those everywhere now But if you could subscribe to one and they just sent you one once a year And then you send it back and then they send you another one for next year Oh, you know what? You're right It should be a rental service because you shouldn't have to own it anyway. You send it back in january And they just wash it and then they send you a new one next november Yeah, I'm done. I mean, there's not a lot of room for growth You're only gonna make revenue once a year. Here's the thing. You're right. You're right. I guess you Never like much of the subscription once a year Uh, by the way, I'm going with walking by the way. Did you see that while this was all going on? No, because I'm editing I'm not seeing I'm missing her first steps, Jenny I know can you imagine if ellie walks for the first time on this show live would be like the truman show No Here's my foot print me a shoe is the title by the way, okay good You know that could actually if this really catches on it could you know Kids in the future won't understand the certain Cinderella story at all Like wait, why didn't she just go down to footlock her and get a new one printed? Right Well, you know, I mean it's like me saying like oh when I heard that story Why don't they just phone a policeman to help them out? You know, it was just sarcasm, but yeah, you're right. So many things could be ruined by cell phones I don't think a pump could could really become a carriage. It's like, why do they use about why don't they just call a cab? Because uh, I didn't see Cinderella in the modern age And the uber came and it was orange Wait, um, wouldn't that be lift? Yeah, I guess so Yes programming notes spread the word uh headline shows wednesday thursday friday next week Ooh wednesday too. That's great news. Well, I'll tell scott that soon. Okay You want me to tell scott? Uh, sure. Okay. That would be great. I will see him in a couple hours, but What go ahead and tell him what a curt geek Oh, right. I thought you meant in person. Oh, I wish like that would be cool I can't tell the difference anymore jenny Because between hangouts and in person, yeah, you see, you know, you can totally do it Yeah, scott uh scott tom. I can't tell the difference between you guys now either Uh, tom eras, are you gonna plug the craziness out of the thing? Wait tom just went away. I have no idea what you're saying. You know, what's the thing you have to plug on current geek Oh the box. Yeah You're so funny. Uh, I tweeted that yesterday, you know, right? Okay. There's a current geek subscription box And tom's gonna plug it on jenny likes to make me figure out little puzzles. I think that's what's going on here Uh frogpads.greatjoy.com. Yeah. No, it's in the lineup. Okay good All right We're doing uh merchandising darin. Ooh, I'll let you know how it goes and and if you want to pick up some tips from us Thanks No, no, I'm actually Len was uh, I was talking about his black friday promotions and I was thinking to myself I hope stuff shows up before black friday. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, you and brian both Uh are in black friday land right now, aren't you? Yeah Yeah, you know what I say we just create our own holiday We call it Black two days before you can actually get something on your doorstep before christmas eve if you choose one night overnight shipping That's a good day. I like that's catchy Yeah It's gonna be december 20th And it will be a big holiday And I'm gonna leave it there. That's usually the only day I pay attention to in holiday shopping Oh, will it ship in time? Good Yeah, also zero xc and e f 5 2 0 4 d 6 a with that. I should also run Okay, we're receiving freight here soon. So mr. Hex All right See you in a couple weeks Look at ellie man. She's so close So close to get so far You think she's doing it if you didn't see roger's hands. Yeah, she's wobbling She's still trying to figure out that those legs can stay put He is If she can lean against something she'll move or probably she can walk across it like cold But um Crawl she will not crawl I like the idea that 10 years ago we'll be like, hey, remember that type of baby grew up on our show Oh, yeah, that happens all the time. Yeah, but back then it was pretty unusual Hi guys, we had a baby girl before it was common. So I had a creepy idea that for the first Nine years of her life, I would take a photo of her face every day and do one of those My oh video montage. Yeah Too much. Are you doing it? No, you decided it was creepy Well, we're we're getting a picture of her every day if you want to catch up You know missing weekends Keep it keep going until she's 30 and so you can see this 30 years how creepy would that be? That'd be amazing. That'd be like that could help science That would be amazing Oh, that was a time she had an accident on her bicycle No bicycles for you until you can walk Trying to upload as fast as I can Hey, what do you call that toy? That's a bouncy toy that you sit on that has like a little bag that you Bouncy ball. I just always call it a bouncy ball an exercise ball No, they have a little handle. They have a little You're supposed to ride it like a bike but you you bounce and sit on top you'd hold the handle and then you just bounce her And then your dad would throw you in there Oh, I have a trampoline Those things are fun, but they look dangerous Here trampoline. Look Ian says keeping it creepy for The things we do for science It's true. Science says some pretty creepy stuff Last two Oh, look here's a time lapse. Oh gosh There's audio It reminds me of that uh that guy who taped an interview with himself Separated by 20 years or whatever Yeah, that's pretty mean. Do you see have you seen that? Is that where he asks his questions to his older self? Yeah, and then he taped his answers I screwed up man. I really screwed up He kind of hates himself For being like this kid guy really did it in for 10 years Oh pictures of himself. No the bait in his kid the beat master sent the link That can be if you can think of it it exists on the internet. It's yeah, it's almost 100 true I want someone to make a mouth chairman mouth themed casino restaurant Has that oh wait that probably has been done in china. Damn. Oh, it's a hopper ball Chairman james happy lucky fun time casino Happy lucky big fun time casino. That was my idea tech tv to make it rich Oh open a casino a chairman mouth themed casino Oh And like the buffet line would be the the great The great buffet forward or something the great wall or something And then like every every afternoon at 3 p.m I would be carried aloft on one of those sedans carried by like four people each corner As I would carry money bags into the jade vault and that would be like the accumulated Like prize money each day, you know, no one wins super jackpot. Just bill Ding ding ding Well, that's one way to do it That would be something As they can all maybe I could do an expansion water park The great slide downward All right We are done We will make way on diamond club for amazing stuff more happen But do Check out current geek and the frog pants dot crate joy dot com Do check out pretend I've done about star wars which went up yesterday for revenge at the sith I'm so excited to do episode four next. It's so fun and uh Talk to you tomorrow