 of our friends with the definition of mind, the Christ mind, which we are all a part of. Are you using mind in any other term, or we're just, this is just so I make sure our friends know where we are, the mind. We have the gift, the invitation from the Holy Spirit from the Creator, we've been given everything. And it's the mind, the Christ mind. The Christ mind, the divine mind, the one mind, the mind of God. That helps. All of that is... The mind of God. And all of that is purely abstract, and that's why anything we could talk about that involves perception, and the arrangement, or the attempt to order and arrange perception, is, we could call, we'll use the Christian science term, mortal mind, mortal, this has the sound to it, you know, and the teaching is that the mind of God and the mind of Christ are real, and mind cannot create beyond itself. So this whole idea of manifesting a world coming, the Christ mind coming into the world and so forth, that's all erroneous. That's where all the error, the error, the one error comes in. So the ego is just fear, it's just, and there are all the forms of the same thing. I just, I feel like I need to try and be as clear as we can, as we want our friends to understand. We only have four minutes to start on it, you know. Yes, that's it. Divine mind is a gift, it's the invitation. Yes, the invitation is a call to remember divine mind, and of course that's the eternal invitation, you know, it's like, it's there for the acceptance, you know, that's really all it takes. You can't get away from it. No, there's nowhere else to go but home, and that's just a remembrance or a recognition. So we could say fear or ego is just the belief that divine mind can come into matter, into time-space. At all. Right. Yeah. So watch it now, we're just going to eliminate the beliefs in reincarnation and incarnations, you know. When you talk about incarnation, you know, the idea that spirit comes into matter. Oh yeah, it goes out and comes back. Or round and around and around, that involves taking spirit and bringing it into something that's time-space bound, that's finite, and the soul or the spirit is infinite. And so how in the world could the soul come into matter? So it doesn't. So again, that's why all the spiritualities of the world, a lot of them have tried to explain how the impossible occurred, but we're just saying is the experience of this present joy is that it has not occurred, that the impossible has not occurred. And that's where the peace and the ease and the gentleness of Jesus, the gentleness of the Holy Spirit, are very apparent. What does Mary Baker, I already said that, something about there's no spirit in matter, is that how she says it? There's no mind in matter, there's no life, truth, substance, or intelligence in matter. No intelligence in matter. Right. Yeah. No intelligence in matter. So no concepts don't have to get into degrees and how to be accredited to be who you are. Growing. Or growing, right, you just, there's no. I'm better now. I'm closer to God now. Right, closer. I overcame another fear thought, so I'm a little closer. Right, and there it is, you know, it's, because if you're closer, but... We're eliminating various fields of thought here. Yes. Well, by the time we conclude this interview, we should have eliminated the world, you know, which is lesson 132, there is no world. That's a good lesson. Exclamation point. There is no world. Yes. Right. And this is not kind of a denial way. This is the joyful way of letting the world dissolve into the nothingness that it is. As we dissolve into the Christ mind. Yes. We live severe and we experience them and that speaks for itself. Yes. That's it. That is it. Doesn't get any better. No. And everything else vanishes. Yeah. The world vanishes. Right. When Jesus healed the so-called sick, I mean, he wasn't seeing disease. Right. But didn't see it. Right. Not only didn't he see the disease, he didn't see separate persons, places and things. I mean, the Christ mind is just everything. And it just doesn't look on error. Yeah. And so it takes it away from this idea of, you know, trying to bring about a healing or heaven on earth is a sneaky idea or the stuff from the Bible, be in the world but not of it. It would be like saying, be in the illusion but not of it. Not of it. No. This is not even necessary. Talk to you next week, David Hofweister. Okay. Thank you, my friends, for joining us on Awaken the Dream. We will continue with David next week.