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That's two programs for two amazing people. We love you I just got two hugs mind pump media comm You want to pump your body and expand your mind. There's only one place to go Might pop might pop with your hosts Salda Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews Whose idea was it to be inebriated with this episode? I don't I think our forum You know we a lot of people have been talking about no jet. No Adam. It was your idea. Oh was okay. Yeah Yeah, you know, I like exactly I like how you like to you like to give away the credit You're not sure about you're like, you know what this could be a really bad idea Let's go and tell the audience this this was anything we do that was brilliant and smart. It was like, you know Yeah, there he is. Oh turn him up. Yeah, fuck you by the way Fuck you guys. Listen Justin. Yeah, just be clear here. I like the way you look He's making fun. He's doing the fat stuff. Yeah, I like it listen because you like them thick That's why I have no complex at all. He doesn't so I say bring it Yeah, you know why you know I just is the worst person like if I were to like Let's say I were to talk shit about someone because you know, I'm like, hey I'm more I'm more ripped than you are Yeah, because he can go in the gym and be me at everything. Yeah, you know, I mean and that that's more manly Yeah, this is I would rather I would rather lose a ripped contest than a fucking Exercise well when you guys all left I gotta be honest it when you left the other day I was only one in here and I had to try those big Indian clubs Yeah, I almost ripped my shoulder Literally, you don't just jump right? Well, I I started with the small one I knew better than do that right didn't like go Hey, you know, let me pick these big fuckers up and swing dynamically with my shoulders I at least did the I at least did the threes or fives whatever you call those and then the next level up So I did the the two before and I thought okay, I got this I wonder how long it's gonna be before Before we need to change the name of them because people are gonna get offended that they're Indian clubs Indian clubs Oh, God, yeah, we'll need to call them fuck it fuck everybody gets so offended all you know I feel like we're played you play more Indian music We're more PC than every other podcast that I listen to yeah every other podcast I listen to racial slurs fucking sex as shit like everything I mean, maybe we dropped the F bomb more than than a lot of podcasts But I think we're pretty PC for the most part. Yeah, and let me tell you our audience does not hesitate to let us know Fucking email right away This is this is a space though, that's like it's in like the health like service kind of industry Like you don't get people that are assholes, you know, everybody's trying so hard to be like, you know Oh, like I'm so gentle with you and let's take you through this. It's not really like nobody wants to talk shit It's me like hey man, you know, you're not doing it because you're not fucking doing it Well forget talking shit. It's just not real that this whole this is what I know is that from all the years that we've been in fitness You see like there's this trend right now of and it falls right in line aligned with like just normal America too Not even just fitness just this, you know overly sensitive And we're so care and I get it because 30 years 20 30 years ago. We were fucked up, right? People were unbelievably over-the-top discriminated and we're racist sexes meet up a word Fucking love you for that. Let me tell you something even though you call me fat. I still love you 30 30 30 years ago Go fast. I remember why I stopped drinking I Gotta tell you guys I have another street steam room story Is it continued from no no this morning? Is it a new character that's involved? It is it is a new character that I have not seen before okay who Came in this morning. God the steam room is such an interesting place Well before you go to this story, I'm curious have you ran into the the old man lately? Yes, okay So you've seen him since the last I see him and there's him now Actually work out or does he just steam? I've only seen him in the locker room in the steam room and I I Can tell now like it's he's dominated me like you know I mean like we walk by and you know when two dogs You lower your head a little bit. Yeah, you know two dogs me and they like fucking they posture up You make eye contact, but then you know and then one of them dominates them And then from that point on when the two dogs meet the pussy dog rolls over, right? You know I mean whatever you showed him your belly. That's me I walk by and I'm like yeah Feet are up in the air in his hands. It'd be funny. So I actually got down on the floor roll on his back Fuck man, like you just dominated. You know, you mean you're you're the you're the alpha Let's come on thinking about fighting him in the parking lot. I need to find a way nipples on my stomach I need to find a way to just submit bro. He's got years on you man That's I mean just think where you'll be at when you imagine if I did fight him and you ask There's some like kung fu master. Yeah, that would probably that's some old man shit though You're only good at that once you like get some age under your belt. God damn it. Anyway, so I'm in the law I'm in the steam room today and an old You know white dude comes in old old regular dude comes in The immediately the first thing I notice is not everybody walks in the steam room naked Most people were a towel. Well, this guy going in he gave no fucks buck ass naked With the grayest most biggest bush I've ever seen in my life. Whoa. Yeah, I was a huge It was a huge plume. So it's not like you're undeniable. No, no, it's stuck out It was it was it was literally a plume like Okay, you ever watch videos of like those old black like a frosty like a treasure trove or so. Yeah So like you're going through Siberia a plume now. It's a plume of pubic air You know, it's a fresh storm of snow Oh, it's a plume because you ever make up words and then you throw weird ones in weird A plume describe it let me For a second, let me take let me teach you a plume means Okay, you ever watch those old black and white videos of an atomic bomb going off and there's that big fucking smoke That's a plume. Okay, so much a mushroom. I think you know like a bunch of powder and just you know throwing a that could be a plume Right, so if from far away so could obviously 70 year old pubic air to yeah So this could also be a plume of pubic air I don't want to be apart so from far away if you squint a little bit It can look like a bunch of steam or something like it's that white. Mm-hmm You know I mean like whoa, what is is that fog a right around your dick, but no, it's great. It's not fog. It's Pups. Yeah, so that's the first thing I noticed right because that's where your eyes go immediately when a dude's walking around naked Doesn't matter if you're straight or gay for whatever reason it just happens like oh your naked. There's your dick There it is. It was great pubes. Yeah, so he comes in and he's weird. He's a little bit weird I can sense he's not a hundred percent normal white guy white guy old guy Probably 70 like he's that old right? Okay, cuz he's a little saggy in the in the liver spots on the head He was actually kind of fit which I was for a second. I was like I want to tell this guy's kind of fit You know I mean while he's naked mm-hmm, but that's why I didn't yeah That's why I didn't do it. Yeah, and because it was weird. Yeah, cuz you walk. Oh, yeah, you look great You look great looking tight So he walks in definitely a come on another man tells you you look great while you're naked That's this is a fucking come on for sure. Listen. Whatever you do in the gym is working Hundred percent come on really there's very flattering and there's nothing wrong with another man compliment. I do this all the time I just I wait till their clothes. Yeah, well cuz you don't want to be just I got caught in a moment This is a real story, right? So I was like I'll put my story on hold Don't worry. I'm gonna chop it all Hijack your story with the story and it's gonna be like two minutes Yeah, so I Was a new trainer going into Gold's gym and I basically was like showing somebody this this Trigger point technique with with the cane, you know, and so I cocaine. Yeah So this guy was asking me and I didn't know he was gay or anything. You know, no big deal whatever One of one of my other friends clients and like so he saw me doing like these techniques with one of my clients And so we go into locker room. So you're using his walking cane No, no, no, no the cane like, you know the one that curls back on the back the question mark Yeah, yeah, and then you do the cane. Okay trigger point kind of therapy without you picture him with an old man's cane Fucking sticking it in someone's no, you're still thinking old man. Yeah, no old man No, I knew exactly what so when I come into the locker room, right? So he's butt naked and I just you know didn't think anything of him like whatever it's a locker room, you know Dudes are naked and he's like, oh, yeah. Hey, what are you doing with that? You know out there with your client. You're doing something with the king I had it with me and he's like, oh, and so I started kind of showing him stuff with the cane He's but I forgot he was butt naked Wait a second here Hold on let's let's get something clear on this story Yeah, you might have you might have been you're in the restroom I done this sometimes you're not the best at telling stories I just want to make sure this is clear forever. I'm including myself. Okay, so you walk into a rest room Yeah, you walk into a restroom locker room locker room, right? Yes locker into the locker room Yeah, totally normal with the with the cane carrying your trainer tool. Totally normal By the way by the way could 100% be interpret looked at if you looked at and didn't know what it was Yeah, it looks like a sex life So you walk in with you would think that with this trainer tool that kind of looks like a sex toy over your shoulder, right? Right, you come on in it and Naked dude walks up to you and starts a conversation. Yeah, and you Normal you decide that this is a good time to apply your trainer knowledge on this guy with potentially selling him I'm curious and he was asking me about it. What am I supposed to do? Did you do anything like any quadruped moves or anything? I'm like showing him. I'm like, oh you put it here on on you on your back And you know right here around the rhomboids and like you're gonna find a trigger spot right here It's gonna be real tense. He looks back at this. He's like, oh, that's interesting Kind of moving his way through it, you know, he's like, oh, that's good. That's great Oh, that feels great. And then I all of a sudden I got like it dawned on me right then then it was like, oh No, and he was just like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, and I was like, oh What am I doing? I took it off and like, okay, so anyway, that's how it works and then I put it in the locker room I like bailed, you know That was the time I almost had gay sex I need you Justin you're a little overconfident It was already almost there so this is typical guy right typical guy. I totally could have had That was my Think just the conversation starter was already thrown it at you naked Naked I walk around naked in the locker room. I think that's fine and normal. It's fucking totally normal But I don't go around starting conversations naked Right at least I can let me put my towel around or let me put my bottoms on first before I have a conversation I most certainly don't approach another man who's naked, too Okay, so literally Here's the rest of my story. So yeah old guy walks in plume of pubes plume of gray pubes Just staring at you. Yeah in my face walks in and he's kind of weird I can tell you ever look at a somebody like you're not all there. You're not a hundred percent Yeah, that's him. So he's kind of making these weird mouth noises like Like that's literally what he's doing in there. So he sits down by the way no towel So it's bare-ass cheeks to fucking tile which everybody knows you don't do that in a steam room because you can catch Right weird things. Yeah on your butt things in a crawl. You don't want a butt You don't want your balls on your balls. You don't want yeast infection on your body or organisms Or whatever. Yeah, but he's just naked. You don't give a fuck. No shoes. No I mean no flip-flops nothing just sitting down bodge exposed just goes over to the little spray water thing and sprays Only the plume Just the blue he's spraying his plume just the plume area. No, just the pubes like he's misting it himself Misting it like a bush like he's trying to like he's soaking water it He's just soaking it like it's a chiapet like it's like he's watering himself. He does that. It's like maybe it's like a cooling strategy I guess it is because when my balls are cold the rest of my body is pretty cool Well, the everybody knows the rest of me's pretty everybody knows that the balls dictate the temperature of the body Okay, no, it's a cheat. Anyway, he does that. He's doing that puts up the hose hangs it up And then he starts to kind of like ring out his pubes with his hand like he's like getting the water off Yes, he's getting the water that big He's getting the water off with his hands and then he sprays it He does this process about two or three times and then goes sit down again I'm so glad that you're still going to a public gym. So you have these stories I know right I feel like this you're inspiring me to go back to there because I've been training at our own facility I forget how many fucking weirdos there are inside the gym real winners, but he did it like three times So the second time he started doing it. I'm like, I'm literally this is exactly what I'm thinking my head is like I can't wait to talk about this of my pump So I don't want to stop him, but I had to say something so I he's spraying his seeds So I look at him and he kind of looked at me while he's doing this and I go wow No, he looked at you are he's doing that he looked up and we caught we caught each other's face I contact and I went that's awkward. I went wow. Yeah, and then he just kept doing what he was doing I don't know what else to say. I like I don't know what I'm gonna say. Wow So so that was that was this morning in the steam room at a club sport it continues It continues. I hope to see more more crazy shit in there. Yeah, so far. We've got naked a naked yoga guy We've got my my dude that does the the steam room competition the hairy Persian, which I still haven't had Any real Altercations with and now we have plume at pubes plume pews Those are the four characters. Was this the first time you met him first time I've ever seen He could be just a traveler. Yeah, you know I'm saying coming through that in their gym They do weird stuff like that all the time So you just you know I'm saying you see those guys all the time coming by he's got a day pass Does his weird shit in your gym and then he moves mark in his territory never see him again Bring it bird be yet. There she is. She's got them Today's quads being brought to you by Chimera coffee It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural Neutrophics for a cleaner calmer and more focused buzz without the crash put the Chimera link at mindpumpmedia.com And input the discount code mindpump a check out for 10% off Let's go girls gone wild first question. Yeah, it's gone wild first It's a plan words. All right. Hey, what could I use instead of discriminative? Oh my god, any word that's real You know what I was after after you call me I don't I felt like how does that happen in my brain? Like how does that work? What's going on like for that to happen? We're I think sometimes you I'm just I'm hustle through it Well, I have a lazy mouth. That's what I think that's that's a very good explanation to that That's a lazy man. Like like you start talking I Think it's the evolution of how we speak so most people make fun of me But I think I think yeah, you all need to get there I that's what and I think that's why it's weird for you guys when you hear it because you're just like I didn't understand that language. I think what happens is we speak words whereas you let the words tumble out You already assume we know it's in your head because I'm already on to the next six You know I'm saying I think that's what's going on. All right girls gone wild 9-Berry Can I talk? All right first up girls gone wide podcast has a question. It's not girls gone wild. No girls gone What maybe it's a play on words. Yes, it's a play on words How much does age factor into fitness goals? This girls gone wide podcast lady is 39 years old and her body doesn't seem to be responding as it used to and The question is also does this vary between men and women? I can't be serious right now. Well, yes Okay, I got it. You made us drink. I got it though. I'll start us off serious Yeah, yeah, I know this is uh, let's battle axe all these questions Girls gone wad podcast our friends. They have a podcast. Yeah Awesome. We've been meaning to find ladies. I believe we've been meaning to do something We had Brianna reach I thought reach out to them or they reached out to us I can't remember. We'll see what happens if we drop the ball. I apologize, you know, let's get on this girls gone Modcast, maybe we'll have them out. Maybe we'll invite them out here because I know they've been huge supporters for a long time So we got lots of love for them. So here's the deal I think we've kind of indirectly talked about this many a times on the show Indirectly meaning like there's so many things like when you talk about Adaptation right that what happens to us over years and years of lifting weights and trying all these different programs You've done high-intensity low-intensity new steady comes out for this now You try well when you're 39 and if you've been lifting for more than five ten I don't know how many years, but I'm assuming if you started a podcast It's kind of geared around fitness and you follow us that you've probably been lifting more than a few years She has she said in this in the whole question. I remember she said her body doesn't respond like when she was in her 20s Okay, exactly. So she's been doing it for at least 10 years Yeah closer to 20 right because if she's 20 to 40, so there's you know So she's probably been lifting for quite some time So there's there's I think there's a plus side to this and there's a minus side to this right the plus side is that the When you've fallen off for a while or you haven't been dialed in I would Totally say that this is where I'm at right now I think that when I know I want to ramp it up like I can get back to where I was before now to progress beyond that becomes really challenging because We've done so much to our bodies right as far as different types of modalities and intensity level you've manipulated like the fit principle a million times and so You now are not getting the same response as what you were when you it was an early It was a new adaptation like when it's a new adaptation You get lots of return from it for quite some time and then after you've done it and revisited it so many times The body is so adapted to it that it just the return on investment is just not quite the same Well, I think too as you've aged like your body has identified the Main movers right the main the loud signals that you're trying to Enhance even further and so this has become sort of like your go-to protocol and This is years in the making and so like if you you know The more years under your belt of doing things the same way This really like reinforces the signal in this process that you've you've taken to get there and so You have to recognize the fact that the way that you've done things is is you know It leads up to to where you are today and then to to kind of enhance that are to progress further You know, it takes like kind of stepping outside of that and reevaluating a lot of these signals and like maybe like where You know, you can you can see things where they are weak and then focus a little bit more on that Well, here's here's something you want to consider to Take get a group of 39 year old men and women just people right? Yeah, 39 year old people and That's the average person and then compare them to 39 year olds that are fit and healthy Yeah, the difference. Are you I feel like the spectrum. I feel like the spectrum becomes more extreme So you get you get like either the people that really cared about themselves or you get the people like it really starts to fall off You know once you get towards 40 know what I notice it makes a huge Difference the drinkers the smokers You see all those patterns have runners like rolled out like somebody who is like somebody who has really gotten good Got good balance in their life as far as like everything because I can always I've seen really fit people too that are like 40-50 but they also were in a tanning bed fucking 15-20 years of their life ever No serious or I see someone who's not really aesthetically fit But then they were major smokers though, or they were major drinkers though, but then they still did all my healthy Yeah, well, yeah, all all those but that's what I'm saying is it like you really start to see all those different things I've seen a great body in the later 40 50s Let's talk about how much they stand out if they are healthy and fit Now that's what it is. Yeah, when you see so you see a woman who is 45 plus years old neck turner and she's got a fit body her skin looks really good her hair looks really good like Man, you can just you can just tell you can tell that they have taken care of themselves And that's at 45. Well, that's just gets multiplied as they get older That's it the difference between you and your peers gets so fucking massive And we notice that in our mid to late 30s now like you know In the 20s, it wasn't a big deal when I was 25 and lifting and training and doing all that stuff Comparing me to my friends who really didn't that much wasn't like that big of a difference now. It's huge. Oh, yeah Now your friends are fat and yeah, normally you I do I have two group two sets of friends Literally, you're either you health and wellness minded or you just don't give a fuck at all and there's a huge fucking They look way different huge not even just look just like your activity level what you choose to do your attitude It's amazing to see the difference So those groups and so what I want to say is that when you're you know 20 and you're working out You don't have years of wear and tear on your body if you have bad exercise Technique and form just and bad habits I'm talking right now, but listen don't give him too much because you know Adam he goes too far He doesn't know what's going on. There's no such thing is too far trust me. You got too far There's not as much wear and tear on the body, but when you're 39 You know if you've had bad habits in the past now they start to become cumulative They start to add up and so you can get you know problems with your joints You can get problems with your exercise form and that will hinder how your body responds to exercise I know myself I did some stupid shit when I was in my Late teens and early 20s when I worked out that just over time turned into problems And I can't get away with it anymore like I can't grab dude I used to do I See the craziest shit I would do overhead tricep extensions with a hundred and twenty pound dumbbell and that was just it was gnarly on my elbows Then could I do it now if I force myself, but it would fucking hurt because I've had those years of wear and tear on my elbows Like I used to do a bunch of stupid shit That now I can't get away with anymore And I think it more of it has to do with the fact that it's just added up as far as comparing a 39 to a 29 Yeah, you know body Definitely here's the thing when you talk to athletes you will find that the first thing to go is agility the second thing to go is Maybe speed and strength and power strength and strength and stability You can keep those for a long fucking. Oh, I would debate that. No, I tell you I would debate the stability thing strength Yes stability. I don't know man. No, you're hyper connective you CNS. Yes, look at here The world if you look at all the world records for CNS for power and strength though Not so much for stabilization because you don't do as much you know Unilateral stuff you might be thinking balance. That's well stability, bro. There. That's what stability is I'm talking just general stability Generate max force, but they can't control it. Yes. Okay. Yes. Well, I just had to come in So here's the thing though if you look at all the strength sports You'll see athletes competing at very high levels in their 30s and 40s If you look at extreme endurance sports, you'll see some of the top athletes in their 30s and 40s like you can go really really far For a long fucking time and if you lift weights and train properly, my goodness, you can continue to set PRs Yeah, we're a very very long and your hormone levels your hormone levels will mimic or look like they did when they Were younger especially with proper resistance right now But the main reason why she's asking this is is like the fact that she's probably putting in this hard work and not seeing The same return that she used to which I think we can all agree has to do with just the amount of I mean at this Point she has done so many things that her body has become and and really where I see this the most Most discrepancy here is when somebody has done this a lot of high intense things over all their years I'm saying that can you live effective shitty work? Yes a human effect of all these really intense driven type workouts So now when you throw something even close to that intensity level You don't get the same return as you used to which is also why and this is where I think people don't completely understand us when we stress the Importance of the lower intensity and manipulating frequency is because we know this that five ten fifteen twenty years You want to have you want if you're 39 you want to be rewarded for that day you get out there and decided to fucking bust your ass You want you want you want to see return in that that's not fair You're fucking 39 and you're kicking ass out on the road that nobody else Nobody else is doing that come on like you you deserve that but the problem is you've all through your 20s You've done that a billion times and so your body's not responding the same way you take somebody who has slowly progressed like their intensity over years and they had never and they're still reaching like new levels of intensity in their training They are seeing that return. You know, there's there's there's a lot of truth in what you're saying Adam Despite the octave changes There's a lot of truth skin passion about that I feel you there's a lot of truth because people need to realize is exercise causes oxidative oxidative stress on the body Oxidative stress is literally The one of the root causes of aging. Yes, this is how we can always tell when somebody was a runner their whole life People don't think about this either like man You want to I can tell you a marathon runner who I meet when she's 45 years old You would think because she's skinny and lean she looks good But she looks old and weathered because she's because of this exact reason I can tell people who work out too much who are a little bit older because they look Older than their age and it's from that oxidative stress. Yeah, you were not doing yourself any any favors by going ridiculous all the time There's a delicate balance with exercise between it improving your health longevity And it actually taken away from health longevity and it's that extreme factor, but here's the thing that you want to consider, too As you get older, I would argue there's some there's some benefits to here's here's what I'll tell you what and I'm speaking from a Male perspective. I don't know about you guys, right? I'm 38. You guys are not too far behind me Do you guys do you guys put on muscle easier now than you did when you were 18 19? Do you put on muscle easy because I do hmm? I can build muscle now. Well, okay, so that's much easier. Okay Hold on hold on. I can manipulate. Yes and no. Yes. Yes. I would agree with that Yeah, okay. Yes and no because you're very versed in there you go, you know, I understand I wish I knew what I know now when I was 25 because I would see way more results at 25 With the amount of experience that I had and the knowledge that I have now Then what I am at 35 putting that all together. So we the reason why we see better gains now with them Yeah, it's wisdom. It's not because our bodies are set up But now as you age you're fighting diminishing hormones. I mean like let's be honest that signal Like it dampens over time I and so this is something that like I know even for women, especially like if they had you know a child and you know It changes you physiologically changes you like and so, you know to bounce back from that. God damn That's a hard process to go through and like I feel for it So those are definite things like I mean, there's more There's more obstacles. There's more barriers and Adam's totally lighting up Marijuana going too much. He's going deep. You're going deep. You have to announce it on the fuck Just keep talking there I'm just saying we're getting deep in this conversation. I watched Friday the other day remember that movie Friday Yeah, the part the part were what's his name was smoking weed with the with the essays and they sprinkled angel dust on it So here there's a second part to this question she says is this different for men and women Here's something interesting and study and studies actually support this in Experienced men and women in other words men and women who are trained who are relatively advanced who've been working out for a while Women actually display faster recovery than men do. I don't know if you guys knew this or not I didn't know that they show less muscle damage and Faster recovery when men and women are untrained Men tend to recover faster now the reason for that discrepancy is they see they think it's because men tend to be more Active anyway with physical things so even in untrained states the man's probably a little more active than the female But once they're trained women recover faster and this is funny now. This is interesting now because So far of all I've had we've had men and women Pretty evenly split for who's done maps maps programming and when I first introduced maps Anabolic which was the first program women definitely see the biggest women women both men and women respond very well Women get the women into women become our diehard fans because they're like holy shit women. It's almost like sure It's okay. So here's what you need to use what you expect with excellent excellent programming like maps We expect about 80 to 85 percent of the people to do it will say that it blew away their other programs There's a there's a 15% that we accept that will have genes that may respond better to other kinds of course because of their Exceptions the rule there's always that right and but we know that the majority of people are just gonna respond better to our programming We also know that there's a small percentage Anywhere between 10 to 20 percent that are gonna be super responders to our programming people who just Respond so fucking well the frequency. It just blows them away Hmm and a lot of women fall in that category like I'll get messages and pictures From women who are like showing me before and afters and it's like Crazy, you know like 30 to 60 minute excuse me 68 time period I have to feel I think it's cuz they recover faster so frequency for them Yes, yes, that's part of it But I feel like You know as far as our culture is concerned the way that women are prescribed to train is so Silly and patronizing well, that's what that's a good point I you know that's why you could argue so you come in and you give them like valid weight training protocols that like You know, you're not skirting around the idea of like Yeah, let's like train hard Let's like do this like legit and like women have been taken advantage of in the fitness industry more than for sure It is me off because it's like, you know like women can be badass and do just like we can all train the same There's no reason why we shouldn't train. Well, I want to counter that because a lot of the messages in your 100% Right a hundred percent. Why right if we take a bunch of counter if we take a bunch of people who work out you're gonna find Some of them some of the the horrible training myths are gonna be women will tend to adopt them more because they're marketed to that way However, a lot of the messages I'm getting are from experienced Hardcore training women who do body part splits eat six meals a day Some of them are competitors who are are showing me pictures of the perform afters and they're blown away Like I've had this is the crazy thing How often how often have you had and I'm talking about serious not the bullshit like myth How often have you had women who've trained consistently who've been trying to build muscle for years come at you and say? Okay, what do I do now? I think I'm building too much muscle. Yeah, I've actually had several like once in my life I've actually had several women now saying start off and saying well I started doing your butt builder because I wanted to build my glutes and then they'll come back to three months later and be like Okay, my butt is about as big as I want to get it. What do I do? Which is crazy. It is an easy problem once you have that. It's a great problem Fend that's what you want. You want to get in shape as fast as possible and then have to scale back But it's just amazing how they respond and I so I think I think women recover. I think the girls gone wild actually have our He really just sees that yeah, you know, that's why they did it. I think it's very clever. No, it is I think that they I think they run our program. I hope they do they should if you guys aren't get the fuck on there That's the first thing to help but that's probably wise because you are a badass You've been a badass for 20 years and now your your body has become so adapted to it that you're not you're not seeing Yeah, right interrupt it would be ideal. So this is where Changing the mode out. Maybe you've never been a kettlebell girl before how about that? Like we have a great kettlebells for aesthetics Like if you've never messed with kettlebells, you want a whole new adaptation. I'm surprised at how popular that program is Yeah, I know it's it's blow people love that program. So I would find that I would find something You know and I don't know which which maps you are on if you are running in of them But that this is the idea of changing these out of teach the difference between red and green is like significant That's great. So if I had somebody who's like a major powerlifter strength training and they're like man, I'm they're going through the same thing I say well one of the best things you can do is go through our like green program Or if you're somebody who's like super mobility yoga Pilates person, that's what you're I would say Okay, you want something totally different go to red or black and that'll totally do that Or if you're somebody who's done kind of all of that and you've cycled through but you haven't fucked with kettlebells I'd say go through like kettlebells aesthetic now before we go to the next question Doug I want to make that announcement L doa certification Happening here at mine pump media studios March 11th and 12th. You go to beach fitness calm Go on the there's a drop-down menu at the top. You can sign up and get a discount L doa is Something that will tremendously increase well just to give people heads up to we're gonna be here So we're totally ecstatic about hanging out with us. Yeah, so if you are somebody who's out of the state It's and I know that the L doa program. This is a very legit certification It works as CE use to a lot of your major national certifications We're the three of us couldn't be more excited about going through it I mean, it's gonna be it's I haven't been this excited to go through a certification in a long time So it's gonna be awesome plus we're gonna be hanging out you get a chance to be in the mine pump studio This is the first official Certification that we'll be holding through mine pump we plan to do tons of them down the road and We're really pumped to have them March 11th and 12th. We're at beach. What beach fitness beach fitness Yeah, go online or a mine pump media.com. Thank you, Doug My go to the event tab it just go on our site under the do we have all of them are just L doa right now Just L doa, okay, so yeah, eventually you guys so that's good for people to know now anyways that so going forward At our website. We're gonna be the headquarters Yeah barrier mine pump media calm you'll be able to go to an events calendar where we'll have whatever we got coming up Certification wise. I know I just had somebody inbox me recently and said do you guys have anything in March Adam going on? Well, here you go. We've got L doa. Whoever that was that inbox me on Instagram going on So you guys can always find that on the mine pump media page under events. Check it out Hopefully we see some of you guys next question bring it bring it up universal What is going on with all the IFBB pros and cool? You know what dude? I'm so intrigued by this right now Can I say something we all body building so I've you know, I was a huge fan I act milk. I was a huge body building Fnatic in terms of the sport and the history of it up until I'd say the the end of the 90s, right? I was very very big into it and One thing that I noticed in pro body building is that it would go through these Wrap it would go it would be consistent for a while in terms of how everybody looked and then it would go through like this boom Explosion of like change. Yeah, and then everybody looked like that for a while like Arnold We have only two or three times, right? So what you have is you have the body building of the 60s and then in the 70s It was just all of a sudden this fucking huge Transition and guys got bigger they got more ripped and really what it was is they just increased their doses of steroids And they have started incorporating dieting a little more seriously wasn't that when the surge of growth hormone started to come on? No, that net not yet Then the 80s came about the 80s and in the 80s bodybuilder started utilizing steroids putting more science into it adding higher doses Incorporating insulin growth not yet. Not yet. No, not people were playing with them all by then We got no they were playing with them a little bit, but they didn't get crazy with them until The 90s when Dorian Yates won his first Olympia because he went from like second or third I don't remember. I think it was second place to Lee Haney if I'm not mistaken and He came back the following Olympia Looking like a different person just you know those very famous black-and-white pictures of Dorian Yeah, you know what I'm talking about where he just nobody had seen bodybuilders looked like that before like it was a Completely new look it was the day of that ripped gut Yeah, it was just this era of mass monsters and people say it's because The doses went up even higher and then they started really understanding how to use insulin and growth hormone So all of a sudden you had the era of the mass monsters the Dorian Yates the Nassar El-Sambadi the Kevin Livrone the you know all these guys just got fucking massive and super super shredded because they started using Doretics and all kinds of stuff and then it stayed like that for a while Ronnie Coleman Of course hit the scenes and he was just another Ridiculous-looking guy, but nothing really changed super dramatic until recently Which is so exciting for me that like in this if you've been somebody who's been hanging out with mine pumps since day one like one of my favorite things for us to do is like To talk about what we see in the industry and where we think it's going in the future of it like those that have been with Us new way back when when we talked about shreds before anybody knew all about that bullshit Now you see every Instagram person jumping on board and now they look they're all poison each other's business Which is hilarious So you know this is another thing with a ketogenic diet when that all came out and that was going to be a huge thing And now everybody's talking about that. Well, this is supplements around that. This is a big thing This is gonna this is going to be another huge topic over the next like five years What's happening right now? It's kind of because it's it's we're going on a bro This is like I've never seen anything like this. No, I remember the first five fucking time I told you guys like dude, there's something and we didn't want to talk about it yet because we're like it's pure speculation But like you see these people and and their their physiques are completely different. So there's something okay Let me explain something to you the bodybuilding Mecca is southern, California If you're anybody who's anybody you probably go to southern, California And now there's become there's other mechas now that I've kind of popped up like lots of Las Vegas now with you know Because I think Metro is over on the East Coast But but the Middle East is not a Mecca never has been for bodybuilding. Yeah, cool. No, wait No, but except for the actual Mecca. Nobody was going to the fucking nobody was going to the Middle East Middle East Nobody was going to the Middle East for fucking bodybuilding all of a sudden you have American bodybuilders going to Kuwait of all places oxygen gym I think is the place that yes, and they're just fucking going over there like all the top guys are flocking there Why the equipment ain't any different there ain't nothing because the coach over there isn't magical Which I'm sure you know kudos to oxygen gym because they're gonna market the fuck out of that Oh, they have been that's gonna become the the the place so I'm on Instagram And I'm looking at these bodybuilders that are going over there and this is crazy now keep in mind You have guys who've been competing for years at the top pro level which already means they're doing everything They possibly can they're taking every drug. They're maximizing the drug and take they're eating like freakin maniacs. They're sleeping They're training. They're doing everything that they know they can do to look the best and they've been doing it for years So they're not changing that much like year over year You're not looking at a pro bodybuilder who's been competing for 10 years and you're not seeing the next year going Holy shit. He's gained. Yeah, it doesn't happen. They look the same the difference is sometimes they're late They look sharper than others, but that's all about water manipulation and diuretic and other programming You know those little things are minor micro adjustments minor. Yes, totally minor these guys these experienced guys are 15 30 pounds on them They're just they're going to go away and they're posting like a 90-day transformation and it's Fucking weird and they've got a different look to their muscles like they look they remind me of that Milo Stanton Inhibited bowl pictures that you can go online. They look silly. That's what we were speculating a long time Well, just maybe they figured out like a Milo Stanton just so everybody knows they'll be fucking supplements Supplements that will be attached to this like these guys are they're making such huge Transformations that the next thing so once everybody starts talking about everybody figures it out and then blah blah blah Then it becomes a big deal and then now everyone's viewing it looking at the before and afters of these guys going over there The next thing to follow after that is someone to be smart whether it be a supplement company that already exists that Sponsors these guys and has them tell them that that's why they got that way or an up-and-coming new Supplement that nobody's heard about or seen and then all these guys claim that they they're taking it No, there's a new drug. It's 100% I'll bet I'll bet all my money on it it's a new drug that they're using or they're using the same drugs in some different way, but it's probably a new drug and We know a lot of people In the industry, so we hear the rumors right we hear the rumors and here's one of the rumors We do not know if this is true I'm we're not obviously not promoting this and I'm gonna go into why you don't want to fuck with this particular drug But we know people in the industry who've said this is what's happening. Apparently. There's a drug called Let's see here relics a croix, right? Increlax is yeah, Increlax is the is I think the brand name for mccast sermon and it's a hormone that either stimulates insulin like growth factor production or Improves or increases its effect in the body now insulin like growth factor is a Hormone in the body that promotes growth bodybuilders have been fucking with insulin like growth factor for a long time now That's one of the reasons why bodybuilders are so big IGF. Yeah IGF one They've been fucking with that for a little while now Apparently, this is the new drug that they're using Along with it that and this is my this is again all rumor, so we don't know if this is true But this is what's making them so much more muscular. Here's why that's fucking scary what insulin like growth factor is connected to longevity and to Reduce massively reduced risks of cancer and I don't mean increased amounts of IGF one I'm talking about reduce amounts of IGF one in fact Human populations that are that have a polymorphism where they don't have or they have low doses or low normal amounts of IGF one you can tell because they tend to be smaller because it's a growth hormone But they live much much longer and we know if we in fact there's lots and lots of science that goes into You know IGF one because we know inhibiting it reduces your risk of cancer and stops cancer growth in many cases Increases it increasing it. Excuse me does the opposite these guys are fucking with fire, man They're and of course bodybuilders don't give a shit They'll take anything that makes them bigger and they don't really care Do you think it's that or do you think it's just that they found anabolic sand? Anabolic sand Eating it. Yeah, there's camel meat. There's definitely in how I know something specifically going on over in Kuwait It's like so I still talk to a lot of buddies that are you know top competitors in in men's physique in bodybuilding and They're they're all going over there like I've there's been a handful of them already that I've spoken to I don't know And now all of a sudden five of my buddies or five of my you know IFBB, you know peers that are heading over there I'm gonna say okay, so obviously there's something something more than the gym and the coach over there that everybody's Decided lifting gold bars. Yeah, so it's gonna be this will be something that will be talked about over the next like three To five years. You'll hear a lot of it going on for sure because You're now that it's we know it's happening and these guys are starting to mess with it You'll start to see like all the Olympia guys So you're gonna like you were describing the eras like there's going to be a 2015 to 2025 type of era of bodybuilding where we made this next big Bro, did you see that? Did you see that it was a Brandon Curry? I think it was pro bodybuilder Did you see his picture? Yeah, you sent it over to me Posted a picture of himself when he got there and then one that was like I think it was 30 or 90 days either way It was a short period of time. It looks Dramatically different and this guy's been competing for a while. It looks silly how much more muscular? I'm sure they shaved like 10 15 years off their life. I I don't know man It's just you're fucking with fire like literally IGF one is a huge Era of study. I hate to talk shit about though because I love that bodybuilders. They don't care Exactly with whatever exactly they've been like this human experience We have moved so far in this because this has been something forever That's been demonized and black market and not talked about so somebody had to be fucking being the test Like somebody has to eventually do this because it's that much closer to superhero serum It is bro. We're getting close. We are it's and this this part this process had to happen I mean, I don't want to be the guy And I but I definitely don't want to be the guy to tell the guy who wants to be the guy Don't be the guy. I'll be the guy You didn't get that you're that guy I'm gonna be the other guy that's all that matters as long as the producer understood I was trying to get a guy there. Yeah, here's the thing Don't be that guy. You guys okay You guys remember the 90s when like I said the Dorian Yates era came in and they went just they went Kamikaze with the steroids They started really going crazy with insulin growth hormone protein intake and a lot of people were like Oh, man, these guys are gonna fucking die Well, guess what a lot of the 90s bodybuilders are fucked There's a lot of them with horrible health problems and quite a few of them have died a few of them have died because of Doretic and crazy, you know, you you know drug use on stage. Yeah, who knows exactly what it is It's like this plethora of things and people don't realize like let me tell you something about your bodybuilding magazine They will tell you who won Olympia who looked phenomenal in 1989 who looked awesome in 2005 they will very rarely if ever publish a story about this ex Olympian Now has new kidneys or this one is now on liver drugs because his liver said they don't talk about it But a lot there's a big chunk of them that are and This is why I know I'm not that surprised I'm very passionate about this and it's a lot of why I speak out on it on the show and on my Instagram and things is that You know, I remember being in my 20s and because we grew up in watching all this and even being somebody in the fitness industry I connected the level of Someone's fitness basically or the way they looked to health to know not to that. That's not how I was younger I connected it to how much juice they probably do. You know, if I saw somebody on the Olympia stage Oh, he must be taking tons of juice, you know And so that's just how I looked at and so and I remember the first time that I took anabolic I had that that thought process go through my head that I Well, you know, I felt like and I think that this is true with a lot a lot of the the average gym goers and guys Especially that are looking to dabble in steroids is and this is why I stress to all of them like man You just you need to prove to yourself first that you can align your eating align your training a lot of that to get Yourself in the most amazing shape naturally before you fuck with that because then you will under you'll understand Which is really doing which and then it gives you a whole different perspective Yes, exactly then you can discern because I'm definitely not somebody to tell someone don't take this or don't do that Like it's your body do what the fuck you want with it You're like even then like it's the minimum amount that you know will give you the greatest result in any fashion of this Right. So same rules apply rules apply and that was when I was competing I was running across guys that were just like upping their dosage Adding more steroids is their ignorance of the rest of the training and the nutrition and I'm looking at their bodies And I'm going like no, bro. What's keeping you from winning right now. It's not the level of steroids Like you're in balance. Like you've got fucking no chest. You've got fucking terrible legs You know I'm saying like build your physique Before and focus on that no amount of steroid is going to fix your imbalance like in fact There's a lot of amateur bodybuilders and non bodybuilders that use more drugs and are more kamikaze It's more than even pros it is because they read about they go on these forums and they read about what the pros are using They've got bad genes. They work out shitty, but they think it's all about the drugs I've known more than a few people who this is what I've known regular dudes Those are those are more of them if that the reason why I say that I actually saw it within competitors That's what blew my mind because if anybody should understand the importance of diet and training It's somebody who's competing at the highest level. So when I saw it happening with them, too, was what made me go, holy fuck Everybody who's a natural or a natural lip just a person It goes to the gym working out who's taking taking steroids Thinks this way because these are who they look up to of these morons still think of it like this You know that they're definitely getting that information. So that's what made me so passionate about was like just letting people understand The problem is it being taboo. You don't really have a good understanding of how to use it You know if you're using it or like, you know, you just have this like oh, bro. Come on You want more Justin? I want you to pull you're on that one. So so you can well tell him to stop being a bitch, too Why don't you fucking pour your own one? You've been you like the one I made you Yeah, it was good. Well, you want a nipple for yours or what look at this? I got mine I'm ready. It's not every day that we drink on the job. Dude. Come on next question. Oh my god For yourself one to you pussy. I got it Sweezy for real Adam gets a lot nicer when he's drinking. Yeah, so much nice Very gentle. Yeah, how do you train with resistance training to compliment Brazilian jiu-jitsu? Oh Wow, I wouldn't be and then the second part to this question is Sal Do you plan to compete again and also do either? Justin wants to go as well or compete as well, you know what so I have an interesting relationship with Brazilian jiu-jitsu when I First got into into Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I I've told the story several times on the on the podcast But I walked into a jiu-jitsu school and I had no humble I had a big time I had known jiu-jitsu or about jiu-jitsu for a long time. I had done judo as a kid. I'd watched UFC the Gracie family I was always fascinated with it I walked in as a big strong muscular guy with some grappling experience and I got my kick my ass kicked by a guy Who was half my size not a strong guy Who was just very technical very good knew how to use his body positioning how to use leverage? Hmm, and it humbled me and so I got into Brazilian jiu-jitsu right around this time I Had at this point. I had been using The over-the-counter designer steroid or pro hormones they used to call them, but they were in reality. They were active, right? So it's basically like a steroid you could just they were legal and I had been using them on and off and had a poor relationship with Exercise of my body and this is what I was just trying to do kind of big when you were going into yeah, I was I was big and I give you a false sense of ego and confidence It wasn't just that it was that I you know, I was I just had a poor relationship with with with my body I was always at that point. I was really just trying to get big. Yeah, and I went to jiu-jitsu got my ass kicked Started training. I didn't stop with the constant focus on getting big Until about a year into doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu After about a year of doing jiu-jitsu I competed in a tournament and I got I lost and I lost not because The guy was better than me but because I gassed out and I wasn't as mobile as I could have been and I had at this point only been doing jiu-jitsu about twice a week And so at that point I lost and I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna go to jiu-jitsu I'm gonna take jiu-jitsu four days a week like I'm not gonna fuck around anymore and I'm gonna lift weights and The way I'm gonna lift weights is not gonna be to just build muscle anymore It's gonna be to compliment my jiu-jitsu and so my focus changed on having to be big all the time Yeah, to getting better at jiu-jitsu, which was oh my god It was beautiful for my health because I was able to take my laser-like focus my obsessive compulsion, you know tendencies and Take them from trying to be big all the time and just direct them to jiu-jitsu, which was great Yeah, you're trying to prove your movement right because what happened was is I stopped, you know eating so much craziness I stopped lifting weights like an idiot I stopped looking at supplements and pro hormones so much Because now I just I didn't mind if I lost some size if I can get better with jiu-jitsu So it was really the beginning of my You know really having a better relationship with my body jiu-jitsu did that for me And then I really focused and got obsessed with jiu-jitsu. I was all about the movement And I got a lot better the difference between going twice a week in four days a week Was dramatic, but there was a big difference in my training as well when I lifted weights before it was like My resistance training didn't change From what how it was before and it was always focused on building a hypertrophy Yeah, it was all you have to feel like now you would be different, right? Totally different. Yeah, but I at that point I was I was lifting weights like I'd had done before and I just threw jiu-jitsu into it Which was bad because I it took away from my resistance training because I'm burning all these calories And by the way jiu-jitsu is very exhausting burns a shit ton of calories and it beats up your body especially the beginning when you don't have to move When you spar you like max effort about you come home And you're just got fucking you've got Matt burn and gi burn on you and you're tired And you're just it's like you can't sleep because you're so it takes a year to really learn how to move your body So you don't fuck yourself up, right? But at that point I cut my resistance training down from five days a week to two days a week So now I'm doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu four days a week, and I'm lifting twice a week instead of you know Two days a week of jiu-jitsu and five days a week of resistance training Yeah now because I'm only doing resistance training twice a week and because jiu-jitsu is my focus My focus on my resistance training changes So I realized something early on because at first I thought to myself like okay now I'm gonna lift weights for jiu-jitsu. I want lots of endurance and stamina So I'm gonna lift weights like with a bunch of endurance and stamina. That's a mistake. I started doing circuits I started doing you know crossfit style workouts before I knew what crossfit was so it's just that style Well, you notice a lot of the guys in your jiu-jitsu class did do crossfit and you were you like Cautionary with that. Yes. They did later on. Yeah, so I was doing circuits And I was I was chaining exercises together and I'm doing all these fucking box squats and crazy shit Do you know I had the pot? Can I pause you for a second? Sure? This is a part where I think people don't understand to like I remember when we first started like People always would have this like oh, I understand you guys have this stance against crossfit like that We had this like thing against them, but here's here's why and what listening to you tell this story reminds me that I think at one Point all of us have created programs not only for our clients We understand we understand the program exactly that's what I mean Yeah, it's faulty exactly and so it's it's not that I'm we have like this like nose up in the air and it's like Oh, we're better than them and that no, it's like I programmed this before Yeah, and I saw what it did to hundreds of clients So when you've trained thousands of people and you have and you're and you've done all the and you've done all kinds of programs and Created different types of workouts You understand that and then when you apply it to hundreds of people and you see what it does and then you apply It to yourself. Yeah, it reminds me of when we got competitive against other trainers for yes come up with the most Crazy intense workout like that very much so reminds me that literally takes like two seconds of thought Yeah, and and so it's just like it's nonsensical. It's it's not taken into account You know how the body responds and how you're you're improving yourself You're trying to create the most intensified experience in that moment that you can you're training You are you are creating a program for the sake of a workout not the sake of the person Yeah, that's the difference is that you know There is nothing to say these fucking workouts aren't fucking hard as shit and this of course But once you've done that and you realize like this is the ultimate goal is to take somebody Who is getting involved in any sort of fitness modality whether it be crossfit or orange theory or just a local training Training box whatever the point is why they're signing up. They want to they want to better themselves They want to become healthier. They want to become stronger. They want to become faster They want to come fitter whatever their personal goal. Well, I feel like that approach that approach Very quickly leads you to high risk of injury burnout body stops responding and you have a high dropout, right? In fact, they don't they don't publish their numbers, but I'd love to see yeah with the dropout So in talking about jiu-jitsu, it's already an intensified You know cardiovascular type experience where you get a high level of skill high level of body movement Mobility all these kinds of things. So now how do you compliment that in terms of strength exactly because at first my approach was I'm gonna train to build those attributes. So I'm gonna train with stamina. I'm gonna train with explosiveness I'm gonna do all these and what ended up happening was my performance decreased in jiu-jitsu Because I was burning myself out and I'd go, you know grapple with someone and I'd be exhausted after five minutes and I'm like What is going on and then I had kind of a realization and I thought to myself and I said, you know all these different training modalities all these different things that we do I need to start thinking of them as tools One's a hammer one's a screwdriver, you know one's a pair of pliers and if you have a toolbox And if you want to hammer it if you want to put a nail into the wall You use a hammer for it. You don't use could I hammer a nail into the wall with a pair of pliers? I could I could definitely figure out a way to use pliers a hammer and nail into wall But it's gonna be far less effective than using a hammer and that those pliers are really good at doing things that that pliers were designed to do Weights are really fucking good at getting you strong. Nothing will get you strong like weights There is no form of exercise that will build pure raw strength like weights That's there. That's what the tool is designed for if you want to build endurance Do things that are tools that are for endurance now in this particular case I'm doing jiu-jitsu if I want endurance and jiu-jitsu guess what I'm gonna do more of jiu-jitsu I'm gonna grapple more so what I did with my resistance training is I used it for what it was designed for for what? Resistance training works best for which is to get stronger So I backed off on the intensity and my resistance training sessions were designed around getting me Improving and increasing my absolute strength And so my lifts looked a lot like phase one of maps read and of course I would phase in anatomy because summon that kind of response So you need it in that moment because when I was getting my deadlift stronger in my you know One to three rep range rep range when I'd go to jiu-jitsu I would see the carryover and I'd get the endurance from grappling if I wanted more endurance I would just stay longer and matches and I'd go from one person to the next and so the best way to train with resistance to complement your sport is a You want to train imbalances, which I was always aware of so make sure it helps you prevent injury and be use resistance training For what it's good for and that's to build strength, but the last point I want to make is this When you get stronger with resistance training It is very important that you do a high degree of skills training in your current sport Because if I take an athlete if I take a baseball player a football player a basketball player Jiu-jitsu, you know player if I take that person and I snap my fingers and I give them 15% more strength And then I have go them go do their sport for a set for a little while there They're gonna be a take a step back because now they're coordination. Yes, they're off because their timing is off Yes, their strength is off the body. It's a very important to note So if you take if you're gonna lift weights to get stronger Continue your skills strengths that you can incorporate or translate skill You know what I love about your analogy with the tools like I literally look So and and to I know we have to kind of bring CrossFit of every now and then but like with CrossFit how I look at them They are a Swiss Army knife. So if I'm gonna go for like a hammer to a nail I'm gonna pull out this little shitty, you know hammer out of my Swiss Army knife And I'm gonna tinker at that thing for about an hour to get that job done Yeah, because I've spread it out to all these other little fucking tiny Performance gains that I got from my Swiss Army knife very very true Very very true. And the last question is well before I mean to compliment the jiu-jitsu I think and this is why we created these these different programs and like and we also created them with flexibility of Modification the thing so I would take someone like this and I would have them go through maps green and while they're going through maps green How I would organize the foundational mobility would be perfect Yeah maps green with and the way I would organize it would be based around their level of jiu-jitsu that they want to do like so Meaning that if jiu-jitsu is your number one priority Well, then a majority of our time that's gonna be foundational So a lot of your you know on where you would be doing foundational work in green a lot of that's gonna be replaced by Actual jiu-jitsu right because that's your main focus here and then a lot of the mobility type exercises that we include in there Is what you would do on the off days to not only help build strength, but also keep you mobile and multi-plane here I'll tell you what if you're an athlete whether it be jiu-jitsu basketball baseball, whatever maps performance is 100% the program you want to use and the way you would utilize it is if you're doing a lot of training in your sport So like four days or more a week Maybe even three days or more a week of whatever sport you're into then instead of doing three foundational workouts a day do two And then do mobility on as much as you want because mobility is not intense It's good for you know for reducing risk of injury the second note if you're on maps performance Phase four you utilize in the off season Do not utilize that during the season because phase four itself is very very intense And if you throw phase four in with your hardcore training you run the risk of over over training So and I believe we've made notes in that like this is the you know building the bigger gas tank This is something you want to do in the off season leading up to a season the last part of the question He wanted to know if I would ever compete or train again in jiu-jitsu. Here's what I have to say about this I have a pat. I have a love for jiu-jitsu. It's person didn't care about me No, huh this person didn't care about me or Justin. Well, they asked me first and they said if you guys would ever do This okay, we're gonna see it. I have a tremendous love for jiu-jitsu. It taught me Some incredible lessons the biggest lesson to taught me and this is why I would fucking love For both you guys to do Brazilian jiu-jitsu the thing jiu-jitsu did for me the most was it checked my ego? So hard because it's so hard because we both have egos Yes, yes assholes now because now because you have had you guys have bad egos because in this particular realm of Fight training or whatever When you go in and you wrestle someone and you're going a hundred percent because you're not punching right? You're not punching and kicking so you can go as hard as you want to have someone Fuck with you like you're a child Literally like you are a fucking child You've never experienced this before I guarantee because you're both big fucking dudes Yeah, you've never wrestled against someone smaller than you that that made you feel foolish when you do that It it is a such a growth tool like you grow as a man as a person you you really it really develops a healthy ego because you realize just how Vulnerable you are and you develop an incredible skill for For the art of fighting and you see some of these guys fight and you really truly realize like I could take if I took a world-class hundred and forty pound Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy and brought him in here and we put mats on the floor and We set up five minutes and your goal was just try and just pin him or do something to him Within a five minute period he he would put you to sleep You know if you wanted to three four times in a row it would be in it's such an incredible feeling like so demoralizing But so character building totally sign up. Yeah Actually truth be told and you brought this up before I actually really would love to do this I would love you guys will be excellent at it I would love I would love love love to do if there was anything like that I would get into as far as like Competitive with and I don't know if you classify that as fighting because I'm we're not punching each other But that's the type of fighting I would do now at this age because I'm not gonna get an MMA ring and get punched in The face right now like this not now maybe you could convince me 10 15 years ago But at this but I would love to do something like jujitsu or judo I would definitely love to learn judo like that judo we'd all get hurt judo is way too explosive Jiu-jitsu is beautiful. You can you can start on the ground go. Can you still get hurt in jiu-jitsu? Yes, but if you go against like a like a like a high-level jiu-jitsu judo guy and you try and stand with him He's gonna throw your fucking head if you don't know how to fall and you're big dudes You're gonna hurt yourself on the ground trust me that shit hurts if you don't know how to fall right But Brazilian jiu-jitsu I would love for us to all do some of it. It is so fucking awesome I'm down. We will bring a coach in here to do it for us. They'll be awesome roll some mats out right here We actually once a week once a week. We have a guy actually come out. Don't start dude. I'm down Put it in the budget. Let's do that sign us up tie. All right if we don't it's Doug's fault I'm gonna put it out there right now. All right. Take the blame playing Doug. All right next up is be bullet zero nine diagnosed with Crohn's a few years ago how to eat for it and for gut health So It's funny because I'm glad we went this I just had somebody message me about you know It's horrible. There's an epidemic that's happening right now that is not being addressed Fully acknowledged and addressed by the mainstream media and I have my own You know, I have my own reservations with with with the mainstream media the mainstream media all your major media news outlets are controlled by a few Corporations who are very very intricately intricately connected to our government and they've been caught many many times Promoting bullshit either to promote some kind of propaganda whether it be pro-war or anti a particular, you know You know drug that they want to make illegal or whatever There's a lot of stuff that they talk about to promote That's that can be very bullshit and there's a lot of stuff that they don't talk about because they don't want it to come out And one of them is the epidemic of autoimmune diseases. Yep We are in the midst look it up look up the numbers look up the statistics every day I get somebody who Inboxes me on one of my social media platforms that is talking about this whether it's something They're directly affected by or someone who's close to them directly Affected by it and it's it's unbelievable who it's happening to because a lot of them are people that have been involved in fitness For the last 10-15 years there is just blame genetics because you also have to take into account that like these genes get Expressed by you exposing it to certain factors. Yeah, no no no genetics. I'm sorry is not The reason this is happening. Okay. It's no no, I don't know. It's part of the reason Oh, here's what I be genetics is true We understand this way more than what we understood this here's what I mean by that We did not all of a sudden evolve to have all these problems. Yeah But I just want to say that there's there there is that somebody's gonna say oh my god Then yes, it does yes, there is a role it plays, but it's not the only no You're right. No, you're right And it's not even the major role in this situation It's not genetics genes have not changed dramatically over three generations. They just haven't we haven't evolved that fast But we have this Epidemic and it is indeed a massive epidemic of autoimmune diseases Which include things like food allergies and for any of the parents that are listening right now You know exactly what I'm talking about because I was in school not that long ago I'm 38 years old. Okay when I was in school I don't remember a single fucking person ever not a say maybe one person that I can think of that had a Like peanut allergy or some kind of an out-and-out food allergy where they're happy with you know, we're today There's entire schools that are peanut free Most schools have a peanut or allergy regular balloons because of the latex and if you go to if you go to a lot Of schools nowadays if not most everybody's living in a fucking bubble when they have their lunch tables set up One or two of the lunch tables are partitioned off to be allergen free tables There should be enough evidence for most people just to get that right there. That didn't exist 10 15 years Not like this not at this level no I mean it existed but it wasn't like that when we were kids There was there there was nobody had allergies in class if there was it wasn't something and there wasn't enough people that we Actually designated areas or made rules in the class there is now there are now bills right now going out in state Legislatures if not already have been passed. I think in some of them where they're gonna require epi pens to be put in classrooms now Wow, yeah, and that's one aspect of it You have autoimmune diseases all all of them on the rise every single autoimmune disease You can think of is on the rise Crohn's is one of them Crohn's has grown Exponentially over the last 20 years Diseases like skin diseases psoriasis on the rise gut issues in general on the rise Certain types of arthritis here about your room your room toward arthritis on the rise like all these These these autoimmune issues have exploded and there's a lot of theories as to what the culprit is My personally I believe it's a combination of a lot of these things and here's the things that I think that are causing them number one it is the overuse of Antibiotics I think are contributing to this and what I mean by that is the overuse of antibiotics in humans and in animals and it's causing this reduction in Variety of You know gut flora and healthy bacteria just overall bacteria that we're exposed to and that live in and on us and they've already They've already there's already studies that have shown that the last three generations have less and less diverse gut flora's and Microbiomes than the previous generation. So that's one of them. I think We're being exposed to it. There's lots of tests that have been done on public water that find micro micro amounts of antibiotics in the water and The argument is oh at that levels It's perfectly safe But again, how how often and how long do you drink water for your entire fucking life? So over the course of 30 years or so Something it's gonna have an effect on you or your unborn children. I believe then there's also the introduction of You know GMO type foods, which really didn't start hitting the market until the 90s and in the 90s The the market penetration rate was very very low But within 10 years their market penetration rate was very high to now If you pick up a processed or packaged food The odds that it's a GMO or anywhere between 70 to 90 percent. So the majority of packaged Processed non-organic food is GMO. Now. Why is that important? We have conclusively now found that the Glyphosates that are used on GMO's so GMO's are or they're they're they're or they are genetically modified they're modified to withstand very high doses of synthetic Weed killers and insecticides. Okay, so glyphosates being one of them And so they're modified to be able to take high doses So you have these crops and you could just blast them with you know, just herbicides So that way the bugs don't eat all of our shit Not only that but you kill all these weeds, but the plants themselves don't die. So it's super easy, right? But what we know now is that glyphosate Glyphosates number one the World Health Organization Has loosely connected glyphosates to cancer risk Number two, we know that glyphosates have been shown to fundamentally alter Gut flora and I want to be careful with my words because there is no Conclusive evidence that it's bad, but all the other science is showing altering a gut flora in a non-natural way. It's probably bad So that's another thing and if you look at the charts, well that whole so just so people know I mean that whole last 30 seconds of what you said is where all the The other science right so and it's gonna be great. We're about to have Lane Norton on the show So you're gonna see an example of a PhD that will take him about that part exactly that will take that information because There's there's not enough conclusive Evidence so there's there's a problem right now is because you'll have one it's one side Yeah, that's just what do you want to lean on? Well, no, it's fucking treat science like the law The law where it's like you're innocent till proven guilty. It's the it's a fucking to me I feel like that doesn't apply when we're talking about our health and well-being because I Would like a little heads up or even if the majority doesn't agree with me yet If a lot of people are starting to see this or notice something I would I think that information should be shared But you've got the other side that likes to battle with that because they they have other You have to place your own bets. Yeah, and at that point like because it's not as Conclusive but you still have to place your bets in one side or the other and so if you're placing your bets on a side That's like Well, what's not proven versus like, you know, like what intuitively you feel like may have maybe problematic You know, there's two sides to that. Look here. Look here bottom line. Here's the bottom fucking line every single month There are several Approved drugs that are removed from the market because new information comes out and these are by the way our FDA approval Approval process for drugs is the most expensive and extensive in the world by far By fucking far it takes 10 years and over a billion dollars to take a drug from conception to approval if it gets approved And yet every month there's several drugs removed off the market because they discover some fucked up They look at Prilosec Prilosec over-the-counter. That's how safe. They said it was so great Now we're connecting it to dementia and Alzheimer's for example Yeah, they so it's all first of all this shit goes wrong all the time number two Where's the money going the money is going and supporting GMOs not going against it for fuck's sake Yeah, most studies most of the studies done on GMO because of efficiency of and and because that's where the fucking money Yes, where people are buying their products. That's where the money is and number three Where are the 50 and 100 year studies on these substances? They don't exist. No, they don't exist Well, let me tell you something if you eat food like we all do and you eat food every day like you like we all do And you eat the typical American diet you're gonna be eating for your entire life And if you're alive for the at what's the lifespan now average 74 years It might not show up for 50 years. It might not show up for 30 40. That's a long fucking time There's no study that goes that long That's the thing you want to consider So when you have animal studies and you have other studies that are showing some problems You're better in my view my opinion you're better it's better off to err on the side of of safety and Here's the deal like we've evolved with natural foods with non synthetic chemicals chemicals Excuse me for hundreds of years for hundreds of thousands of years for millions of years. Like I I'm gonna trust that now over GMOs have been on the market since the mid 90s the longest studies done or six months or a year not even a thousand year roll Yeah, like I'm not like let's use milk water and like wine and coffee Coffee it's bullshit and the other one by the way is artificial sweeteners which have not been in massive widespread use for that long and by the way Over 75% of the adverse Adverse chemical reactions that people will get with food so synthetic components and food over 75% of the Reports that go to the FDA for adverse reactions are due to aspartame aspartame That's over 75 any if you take all the fucking complaints that go to the FDA when it comes to additives and food Over 75% to aspartame, which is an artificial sweetener that's deemed totally safe by the FDA So for me personally when you're dealing with autoimmune diseases What's more important than what you do. It's what you shouldn't do well It's crazy what you should avoid you check this out. This is what this is what's tough though So I just got an inbox. I want to read it and I felt I hope my boy I'm not gonna use names so I don't get them in trouble But I have to share the story with what we're talking about right now because this happened fucking yesterday He he inboxes me and he's a competitor Buddy of mine who I know and he's and he's telling me that he went to the doctor Okay, so he competes right in men's physique and his girl compete. So she's been on a competitive diet before And he says what's up? I want to talk to you about my girlfriend She got autoimmune issues and her doctor keeps trying her to throw her on a zero carb High protein diet for a year every time she has a carb. She reacts reacts sets her. I don't know what he said there It's insane. I went to the doctor with her and we argued she sent me out She did a traditional bikini prep and her stomach was fine when she eats bad She has sharp pains bloating headache, etc Now me and her are arguing because every time she leaves the doctor She's crying and I get pissed any chance you could talk to her on the phone or tell her give her ten minutes I know it's better if a third party gives her some info not her boyfriend and see if you can understand why her Doc is doing this and maybe explain to me dude these problems are It's like I said, it's exponential growth and I'm hearing it more and more and more from people all the time with Minor issues all the way to bain issues younger people being diagnosed with some of these autoimmune disorders than whereas before it was older people Cancer rates have increased now cancer. I believe is on route to being the number one killer in in America and a lot of people will say oh that's due because people are getting older No, when you count when you start to you new control for that factor, we still have a rising cancer We have a higher survival rate because our treatments are getting better, but diagnosing rate is higher Even if you consider that we're finding a more because better you know technology whatever cancer rates among pets has gone up Okay, this is also a statistic Dude don't give away my fucking business idea. There's a lot of there's a lot of shit that's that's going on So here's step number one you got Crohn's pay attention to what you shouldn't do first before what you should do Here's what you shouldn't do stop eating all artificial sweeteners colors dyes Stay away from most or all this is what you should do Should yeah process like that's what I mean don't eat those things like stay away from processed food Stay away from all supplements stay away from all those those things that's number one This is like right right away like there's a supplement that'll help me. No, it's processed. No, I said number number two avoid sugar and And gluten and dairy those seem to be and this is anecdotal But there's a little bit evidence to support it that people with autoimmune disorders Respond very poorly to those three things sugar gluten and dairy So avoid those three things for now and take out any other foods You may think that you have an intolerance to now the next step is what you explain cake You know, let's stop because I know I have someone specifically that's listening to you for this You know, what do you mean by that? Like you if you eat something here's an intolerance to people don't understand if they have an intolerance to something or not All right Here's some easy signs if you eat something and you notice that you have any any Signs of gastro issues whether it be bloating. Yeah bubble in your stomach farting burping your stool changes like running Really, yeah heartburn Anything like that headache then then look for other signals headache brain fog Then look for signals that take longer to show up acne or see changes or sleep like Like, you know, we identified some with my girlfriend. We eliminated them actually peanut peanut butter for her We eliminated peanut butter and her skin just cleared up right away Like she was having some issues here and there with her skin She couldn't figure it out because she's really healthy eliminated peanut butter skin was better She reintroduced peanut butter just to test it. Sure enough. She started breaking out a little bit hundred percent Peanut butter was her was her trigger. So start identifying those things then look into the specific carbohydrate diet Which is being used quite a bit with people who have autoimmune diseases and it what it does is it eliminates? very common triggers and what happens over time is if you you have to be very vigilant, especially if you're in the midst of an Autoimmune flare-up you got to be perfect vigilant because your body is hyper Well, this is what this is with a doctor and this is where she got really He said part of why she was crying and she was scared and she was frustrated is that you know The the doctor is telling her that she needs to be you know strict about this like no more carbs eat like this And so people freak out because he's like man She feels stressed that she's going to fail like I'm not gonna be able to do this like what if I fail I'm gonna die or what's gonna happen for this? So a lot of people just have a hard time with that But really the reason why this is why they tell you you need to be because you're trying to alter something And that's not gonna happen over, you know, five good meals. Not only that Not only that but your body's hyper reactive. So what you'll find is you'll do good for a month And then have a cheat day. We're oh, I'm gonna have some gluten or I'm gonna eat some whatever and then symptoms Just fucking come back all of a sudden And what Adam's saying it takes a while it takes a while before you start to feel like you're getting better So you might need to do this for a couple months before you notice that it's I explain with people like when you get these autoimmune issues It's because you did something that wasn't good for your body for a long time Consistently so think you know before you're really really good You're probably going to have to do something really good the opposite of that for a very long time to really reap all the benefits Like you're not gonna like for someone like me I'm still dealing with this like with my psoriasis like I just I just made another step in this journey for me Literally like two days ago where now all my detergent all my soap that I'm using is I don't have anything that has that antibacterial stuff I have nothing with this sense everything's all organic and natural So I'm like if I'm rubbing this soap over my body I'm wearing these clothes every day and I have something that's a skin irritation Let me try and add something that could be you know So and I'll now assess that like what a difference that makes and I'll do these little things with my diet Same way just takes fucking time it takes time and you also want to I mean from a scientific standpoint There's something called leaky gut syndrome, which is very common. By the way, that's not a medically accepted term yet or Problem but more and more in the medical community are looking at it and taking it seriously And the theory behind leaky gut syndrome is that your gut gets inflamed Which it does and because it becomes inflamed it becomes more permeable So things can perm because your gut Your gut lining in particular is designed to absorb some things and not absorb other things. It's a barrier well, if it becomes inflamed it Loses its ability to block out certain toxins and so now things are leaking into your gut into your bloodstream and your body recognizes them as Foreign invaders and so it creates an immune response and that immune response Presents itself in many different ways. Sometimes it's in a very big way like Crohn's disease other times It's smaller ways like acne or Or something like psoriasis. So when you when you fix your diet when you're eating this way First you fix it And then you got to give your gut time to heal and for the inflammation to go down and for the mucosa lining to rebuild and it takes a fucking while so That's the that's the number one rule. That's the number one piece of advice. I'm I give you is do these things be vigilant It's gonna take time. I hate to tell you this I've worked with people where it took a six months to a year man before they really saw a big improvements I personally when I dealt with my own gut issues and autoimmune issues I had to be perfect for like a year like well in that year if I had a little bit of gluten Fucking huge flare-up, but here's the good news after being consistent for a while Now I can throw them in every once in a while and I don't have a reaction like I used to So it's like I've gotten to that point now. So it's gonna take some time But again, I want to be I want to stress this like if you have autoimmune issues Even minor ones. Okay. Consider this the thing that keeps you alive more than anything in your fucking body's your immune system if you were if you were to Become aware of the amount of foreign invaders and bacteria and viruses that you're exposed to on a daily basis Including amount of cells that try to become cancerous in your body on a daily basis You would be you would be paranoid you'd be frozen with anxiety. It's a lot Your immune system is what keeps you alive If you have an autoimmune disorder your immune system is literally it's a little defunct and that I'll tell you right now. That is the scariest thing for me Like what mode that I'm so glad you said that because if there's something that Secretly motivates me more than anything else to better My condition was because psorias. Okay, so check this out when I get the nuisance, right? But if you just look at it like that, well, check this out when I went and saw my dermatologist And they and I was asking all the different things that I could do for my psoriasis They said to me Well, honestly, sir All the things that we have out there as far as the medication the steroid type creams the light therapy that we do Is has more adverse effects to your body than what you currently have So you're really a level one of what we would say in in the psoriasis 1 to 10 scale on how bad it is So You're best off you're best off just utilizing this creams and basically getting used to having this and managing Yeah, just deal with it. Yeah, just deal with it And I was just like I was floored by this like I was not okay with it And that's what made me start diving into it more and learning that it was connected to an auto Autoimmune disease and what types of ways I should be eating to help this and benefit this And then I realized I started connecting it to oh my god Well, if I'm weak here, then that means a bad some other diseases and bacterias are going to have an easier time attacking My body than a normal healthy body because I'm already at a disadvantage because I have an autoimmune disease And I was like fuck that like that to me is the scariest thing ever is like I'm more susceptible to something like cancer than somebody who's got a super healthy strong immune system Because I'm being bombarded already by something like that scares me And so that also motivates me to to be on this search of all these little things I can do To help that and that's why I said, you know first and I and of course I went through the nutrition first I mean that was the obvious was to start diving into what foods I should eliminate And I think when I coach somebody that has an autoimmune like this The first advice I give because if you're you were eating all these things before just mindlessly And not paying attention to all of a sudden now you have Got an autoimmune issue and you're like, holy shit and you actually want to fix it But some people just say fuck it and they don't change anything like a lot of people A majority people don't realize the consequences behind it or don't give a fuck about it because it's not something technically That's going to kill you overnight So you just say whatever about it and you go about your life like and then you have your other group of people Like like myself who know they have this issue and they want to fix it and they're on this pursuit of okay What what can I do to better that well when I coach somebody because I've been through this myself and I realize What a daunting task this can be because there's so many things and and you got to be doing it for a lot It's not like I'm going to just change one thing and I'm going to be better overnight It's like I got to continue better practices On all these things that have now been connected or linked to making these this issue worse And you start with food And I mean you absolutely start with food and you start with you know these things like south Which was the exact same thing I responded to my buddy was get rid of the supplements get rid of the processed foods Cut down on the sugar, you know back off the car Increase the fats like yeah, this was the the exact advice I said to start with that and then you start manipulating and playing with things and Allowing things in and out of the diet and really learning to and this is what we teach all people Even if you don't have an autoimmune issue We're always trying to teach people to start connecting these dots because before you got an autoimmune disease Your body was probably telling you things just like it was telling me But I I just fucking ignored them because I didn't know better and also understand this like yeah If your gut is really healthy Your ability and I want to say this because this will motivate a lot of people and i'm not bullshitting This is 100 true If your gut is healthy your ability to burn body fat your ability to build muscle Your likelihood of being in a good mood the way your brain operates You know the way you recover your hormone profile All improve or are at their best or at their at the highest odds of being at their best If you have good gut health So even if you're just motivated by aesthetics and I don't give a shit I just want to look good and i'm only 18 and I feel perfectly healthy and fine I promise you if you make gut health one of your priorities Your aesthetics will benefit as well And with that if you like mind pump leave us a five star rating review on itunes If we like your review and we pick it you'll get a free mind pump t-shirt also Turn this off go to youtube right now Did you know we post a brand new video every single day on youtube? 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