 I literally had no real intention of making this video, at least not at this moment. At least not right now, not today. But I got a little tab on my hand. We're still gonna go live a little later on this evening, but I was looking at something and I decided, you know what, I wanna go ahead and address this because it comes up all the time. Have you ever heard someone say the reason why Christians or the reason why people don't go to church, the reason why people aren't Christians are because of this, because Christians are fighting because of this, because of that, right? Well, is that really why people aren't becoming Christians, speaking specifically of Christians debating or Christians having a disagreement or I think that your doctrine is wrong or I think that is that really why people don't go to church? Is that the real reason why people don't become Christians? Is that why people hate Jesus because Christians argue because Christians fight? Well, I know a lot of other groups that fight, that argue. A lot of people in marriage argue and fight. People still get married. A lot of people argue and fight in corporate America. People are still trying to get into corporate America. A lot of doctors argue and fight. A lot of people wanna become doctors and lawyers and so forth and so. Is that really the reason? And I heard the reason why I'm even doing this right now again. I got a little bit of time on my hands and that's the thing about me. I've got different things going on and so if something comes across my desk and I have the desire to address it, I'll address it if I got time. I got time, so I'm gonna address this. The issue is this. Someone tagged me or mentioned me, now I've re-tagged and mentioned him back, angels something or another. I don't know his name. So I went and saw his video and in the video it spoke about, well you know what, rather than me saying what it's about, let me just play it, let you listen to it. We'll kind of comment on it as it goes. It's one of these YouTube shorts, so it won't be very long. Even within the Christian church is very confusing. And the truth of the matter is it's pushing unbelievers even further away. This comment section right here is from a video of another Christian man critiquing another Christian named Marcus Rogers. Now he says that it is this issue of debating is pushing unbelievers further away. Y'all agree with that? I would love to know what you all think. Do you all think that this issue of us debating or calling off bad doctrine or just disagreeing with someone's take, is that pushing people away? I disagree, but we'll speak more about it in just a little bit and we're gonna actually do what we ought to do and that is look at scripture. So before we get to our scriptures, let's hear his point. And he's asking some very simple and logical questions, which he should. He says, why is his doctrine wrong and yours right? You can't even see what that book does to people. Look at the doubt that that cast and down below. Now I want you all to notice the person that's making this comment. I don't know which video this is. I don't know if he's referencing a video that I did or someone else, but the person who's talking isn't a Christian. The person that's making the comment isn't a Christian. And so I don't know that we ought to be putting a whole lot of validity into the complaints of a non-Christian, but I could be wrong. Could be wrong. He says, you Christians just can't see how silly you all look. You're always pointing fingers and judging one another. One group says your Jesus is God. The other says he's not. One group says he gets baptized and speaking tongues. The other one. Now, does he have any validity at any point? Well, you Christians don't know how silly you look. You're always judging each other and so forth. Well, the guy who said that Christians look silly is literally judging us for judging. That's the point. You can't condemn somebody for making a judgment call when you yourself do the exact same thing. I think we call that being a hypocrite. That's just what I think. I could be wrong. I may have my Bible words wrong, but I think that's what the definition or an example of a hypocrite is. Says no, the list is so long, it's boring and mundane. I'm all for asking questions and challenging beliefs, even my own, but if you're a true believer, we're gonna have to figure something out because this ain't working. I don't know when it's gonna happen or how it's gonna happen, but it needs to happen. Jesus said, this is how the world would know that you are his or the way you love one another. Okay, and I agree with that. The Bible, Jesus does say that the world will know that we're his by the love that we show one to another. Can I ask you a question though? Does that also mean that the world will know that Muslims are who they are by the love they show one towards another or Hindus or Buddhists or atheists or the LGBTQ, is that the way that works? No, it's a marker. It's a hallmark of Christians by showing true love and we should show love. That does not negate us also pointing out known errors. So I've got a question for Mr. Angel. Who by the way, when I went, so who's this guy? So I went and checked out the thumbnails of his channel. Well, you do a little bit of critiquing yourself as a matter of fact. I mean, he didn't have a lot of videos, but I don't know half, 30, 40% of his videos are critiquing other people. Don't have a problem with that. If you have an issue and you wanna voice that concern, then by all means do so and back it up by scriptures, which is what we're getting ready to do right now. So I got a couple of questions. I asked the first one and that is, do you all think that Christians or people, I'm sorry, people don't come to Christ or aren't Christians or avoid the church because of fighting, because of debates? Do you think that's what's kicking people back? Because I don't see that scripture anywhere. I don't see a scripture where it says that we should not correct anyone. Matter of fact, I don't see a scripture that says that debating, fighting, arguing is going to keep people from the body. I don't see that. Now, I could be wrong. Again, I was sitting here just looking at this. I said, you know what? I got some time. So you all tell me, hello, buckle up buttercup. How are you? Question, do you all know of such passage? I don't want you all to think that I'm just saying this as a person's name. So that's everyone, buckle up buttercup, everyone else. Now, my question is, do you all know of any passage? Any passage that states that a person should not ever critique and in doing so, that that would be the cause of someone not coming to Christ. I don't see that. Now, if, and I want you all to think about this, angel or whoever else, because people, he's not the only one that has made this statement. If he were the only one that made this statement I would not bring this up if he were the only one. But people are constantly, people are constantly says, send me an email, Joseph Jackson, if you want to get in contact with me, smart Christian channel at Gmail. People are constantly saying that we should not judge, we should not debate, we should not argue and so forth. And they would say things like the devil loves when we argue and fight. I'm going to make a statement that might sound weird, but we're going to investigate and see that that is so. The devil hates, hates when we fight each other. The devil hates when we, and what I mean fight, I don't mean going to blows. I mean the devil hates when we argue back and forth with each other. The devil hates when we try to correct someone's doctrine. The devil hates that. I'm going to tell you why he hates that in a little bit. But going back to his point, anyone else's point that would say that there's so much fighting in the body, in the church, there's so much arguing that that's why people won't come. My question then is, why did you come to the church? How did you become a Christian? What caused you to be a Christian? Because the fighting that we see now, the debate, the argument, so forth, this didn't just happen. This is always going on. And so I want to go to a couple of passages and I want to pull this on the screen, if you will, to Proverbs 27.5. 27.5, I'm sorry, let's make sure I got in the wrong spot. It says, better is open rebuke than love that is concealed. A secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but deceitful are the kisses of an enemy. In other words, hey, brother, you're so nice, you're so warm, but I think you're awesome. I think you're swell. Meanwhile, I think this guy's a heretic. This guy's a jerk. This guy don't even talk about behind his back. Well, that's not love at all. That's not, I don't want you to say nice things in front of my face and then speak the truth or speak ill of me behind my back. If you think I'm wrong, tell me. We're big boys here, big girls, what have you. You should tell me where I'm right or where I'm wrong. You should tell me where you disagree or where you agree. Now, there have been people in the past who have disagreed with me. And I've talked to them off camera, you know, on the phone, issues with another YouTuber or this or that, a way that we deal with doctrine. One particular person he has, and I'll just say this, I won't say the person's name, but he's made some statements about certain things that I believe, and I've invited him to come on and so forth. And when we've talked over the phone, the way I talk here is exactly the way I spoke to him. I think this, I think that, I think that, and I think what you're doing is all off here is the reason why. Crickets from the person on the phone. Because I believe, and I love the person, I disagree with some of the, for the most part I agree with him, but there's some things I disagree with. And so I wanna say, this is why, this is why I think it's wrong, this is why I think it's right. That's the way it should be. He says, better is open rebuke, open rebuke, that's public, isn't it? I think open rebuke seems to, I can note a open public in view of people are rebuke that way. That's better than love that is concealed or a secret love, which is in love, which really isn't love. So my question is, why did you, how did you come to the faith in spite of all of this fighting and arguing, bickering? How did, what was it about you that's so much better than others who came to the faith? Well, I submit to you that the people that are complaining about Christians debating, first of all, it's not that many of them who complain about Christians debating, they're not, and by the way, they're not coming to Christ because of us. They're not coming for another reason, love of the world, be enemies with God. There's a lot of reasons, scriptural reasons, doctrine, theological reasons that we can point out as to why they do not come to Christ. Jesus says they're not in mind, so they don't wanna listen to me. The Bible never says that these believers will not come to Christ because of other believers, I'm sorry, these unbelievers will not come to Christ because believers are hashing it out in the biblical streets, so to speak. We don't have that passage, and if that's the case, then how did you come to Christ? What was it about you that saw past all the argument and fighting? It wasn't a hindrance to you, and so you came, but for them it's a big deal. And then the other question is, why are you listening to them? Why are you listening to the scoffers? Why are you listening to the mockers? Why are you listening to people who have no interest in God tell us how we ought to conduct our affairs? No, we are going to, as Jude says, we're gonna defend the faith. And we'll talk about the good things as well. Listen, we can say, hey, I think this person is wrong, but he's my brother, or how do we say, you can't talk about him, but I can. That's my family member, you can, and we can do that, we can do that. Do I have some disagreements with some people, some Christian people in the body, some folks in the body who have a different take on certain things? Sure, do I love them? Absolutely. Had a conversation, listen to this guys, had a conversation with a person who didn't like another YouTuber, who kind of, some sort of way, we still don't even know how, hijacked a video that we put out. Some of y'all know about it, most of you don't. Had a conversation with that person and said what you did was wrong. He said, but this guy, that guy, and so on and so on. So I said, listen, I'm pro this guy and I'm pro you. Why? Because you're in the body. We're brothers and so I'm for you. And I'll tell you, I'm so much for you, I've got so much love for you, not cause I know you, I've got so much love for you cause I have so much love for him that I'll tell you what I think. And if I'm wrong, then you'll, but you don't know if I'm wrong. You won't know if I'm wrong, if I don't tell you, if I don't speak up. And so I'm always ready to give a defense of the hope that I have in me. I'm all what you should be able to as well and also be up to the challenge in a mature fashion. And so the question is, how did you come to it? How did you overcome what everyone else could not? So the other question is, if there was no debating, if there were no fighting, no arguments, does that mean by your logic, does that mean that everybody would come to Christ, that non-believers would flock to the church in droves? Hey, these Christians are not arguing. These Christians are not fighting. These Christians are not debating. Let me go give my, let me go place my faith in Christ. Let me, let me go to the next altar call I can get to. Where's the nearest Bible? That's not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. And so the question is what he says about their, something's not right about this. Does the Bible say that? Does the Bible say there's nothing right about us arguing or having debates? No, the Bible doesn't call it wrong. As a matter of fact, we're gonna find out that the Bible actually, the Bible actually encourages it. And I'll get to my point as to why I say the devil hates when we have debate. Let's pull up something else to think, so we don't think that I'm wrong. The Bible tells us that Peter gives an open rebuke to Paul. I'm sorry, that Paul gives an open rebuke to Peter, I have that backwards, in Galatians chapter 211. He says that, but when Cephas, that's Peter came in, and I oppose him to his face because he's still condemned. And then Paul goes on to say why he opposed him. And the reason why it was so important, matter of fact, let's put it back on the screen. Let's go down to verse 13, and the rest of the Jews acted hypocritically along with him so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. And so Paul confronts them because it's causing other people to sin. I'm gonna read a passage that we don't, I've heard some people take this all out of context, and I wanna talk about, since we've stated that they've taken it out of context, we wanna look at what the actual context and the meaning behind this particular passage is, and it has nothing to do with one saying to always say or anything like that or whatever, but I wanna pull this passage up because it's a warning for people who see error in the church, or who are moving away from sound doctrine. Now, so it's clear, at least the example that we have, because we're constantly seeing, think about this, we are constantly seeing godly men, men that we look to and that we listen to. We're constantly seeing these men in the Bible confront people, we're constantly seeing people in the Bible address sin. Now, this person happened to call me that all I'm doing is going after heretics. So I'm not naming anybody today anyway, and I don't do that for the most part. For the most part, I cover a lot of teachings, and then about, lately it's been about 20% of the videos have been over these people, but overall for the channel, about 15, 16, 17, 18%. I don't think that's most what I do, but if even if it were, the point that he's making is still not biblically founded. So my question is, would that cost people to start coming to the church in drove? Remember, Paul even addresses a church who is sitting there silent on sin. And 1 Corinthians 5, he's talking, now this is about a sin, not so much about a doctrine, but he says that you all are airing, you all are puffed up because you think that you're okay for not for being quiet. This man is sleeping with his father's wife and you all are just silent about it. Put that person up. Purge it evil. He says a little leavens belong, the whole thing. So you gotta go. You gotta go because you're doing harm to the body. Paul even says that we should mark those who are causing dissension because of their, in Romans 16, because of their doctrine, because of their teaching. So we have to cover these things. And we do so because, hey, I could be wrong. I could be wrong. So my goal, my goal as Paul says to let folks know some of these people that we call out, if that's what you believe, we're not on the same team. Just like Paul says, Paul says, and what am I doing? I will continue to do. What the stuff that I'm doing right now, if I'm teaching and then calling folks out, I'm gonna keep doing it as I'm trying to look as much as I can like these mighty men in the Bible, as much as I can like Christ, as much as I can like Paul. And so what I'm doing, I'll continue to do. Why? In order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that they, that in their both missionary work or mission work, that they work on the same terms as we do, they do not. We ain't on the same team. You're in that game, we're in this game. In this game, we're gonna fight for the purity of the name of this game. We are down for this game that we're in. We are down for this Lord that we serve. We are going to protect his name as best we can, even to the detriment of ourselves. Now, the Bible says that when we come across somebody who was saying something wrong or unerrant, the Bible says that we are to give an open rebuke. Look what Paul says to Timothy in chapter five, verse 20, he says for the four, I'm sorry, verse 19, do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. And so if we see something on YouTube or video, whatever, well then we've got the green light. As for those who persist in sin, look what he says, rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in fear. Problem is we try to rebuke them in the presence of all and then somebody else comes and say, hey, don't do that, don't do that. Leave him alone, do not rebuke that person. Yeah, I know he's got four wives and six baby mamas. Yeah, and he's a pat, leave him alone. Yeah, I know he just, I know he just said that we don't have to preach Jesus as the gospel, but leave him alone. I know he just said that when I mess up, God blesses my mistakes more than he will your correct assumption. No, I know he said that and it was wrong, but leave him alone, leave him alone. The person that's leading people astray, definitely leave him alone. So here we are, you're the guy. You're the guy when the police show up to nab a killer, a murderer, you wanna go and, hey, stop roughing him up. Stop this, stop that. No, listen, we got our cameras out. I wanna make sure that you treat this killer right. You realize he just killed a five-year-old, right? You realize he just burned down a house with 10 people inside, right? You realize he just shot his ex-wife, but leave him alone. You realize this guy just said Jesus is not God, but leave him alone. We're not gonna do that. Matter of fact, matter of fact, now listen, this is me. I might be wrong, I might be wrong. And this came from, maybe y'all had this happen. We used to get whoop-ins back in the day. Some of you all didn't get whoop-ins. Some of you all too young to get whoop-ins. Some of you all don't whoop your kids. That's fine, hold another story. But we used to get whoop-ins, beatings, spankings, whatever you wanna call it. I'll never forget one of my older brothers jumped in. I forgot what we did. We had it coming. We had it coming. It wasn't like the model gave us whoop-ins just because she was tired. No, she gave us whoop-ins, right? And so she gave us a whoop-in and one of my older brothers jumps in. You know what happened to him? He got it too. Oh, you want it, you want some. So my thing is fine. You wanna start defending the heretics, now we'll come to you. You, because all you're doing is the same thing, just a different way. You are enabling sin. You are enabling heresy to creep in. And I don't care if the heresy's coming directly from him or indirectly from you, it still has to be stamped out. And so if you're not on this team, then you gotta go until you learn. Just like Paul says, put him out and turn him over to Satan. So if that's the case and you don't wanna listen, and the only reason why, guys, let's just be clear and honest, let's just tell the truth, shame and devil where they say, keep it a buck, keep it 100, or not 100, keep it 100, let's be actual, let's back, just the facts, ma'am, whatever your vernacular is, let's just tell it like it is. The reason why people will say, let's not, let's stop with all this arguing and debating is because they don't have a firm hold on their own doctrine. They can't defend their argument and or they can't overcome another person's argument. So let's stop all of this. This isn't helping. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Now, I said I was gonna tell you why Satan absolutely hates us debating doctrine, absolutely hates us having these arguments. Let me tell you why. Let's go to John, James, chapter five, verse 19, 19 and 20. He says, my brothers, if any among you wonders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. Now, I'm not talking about demons, I'm not talking about anybody. I'm not talking about anybody. I'm doing what I normally do, which is not talk about other folks, although for an occasion I do because you also have to know, I've said before, if there is a sexual predator out there and in your city, in every state, maybe not in every city, because some cities are smaller, but in every large city, there is a sex offender registry and the registry tells you what? Not that the state's not so much concerned with saying, hey guys, I want you all to know that there are dangers out there. Well, what dangers? Just as long as you know there's some dangers out there. No, they go a little step further. Well, there are people who have this proclivity to attacking or praying on children. I just want you to know that there are child molesters out there. They go a little further than that. They don't want you to just know that there are dangerous people out there like that. No, they will also tell you what, who they are. We want you to know that Joe Blow here, John Doe here is a sex offender. He has been charged and been found guilty of doing such and such with a child, with a minor. But they go a step further than that too, don't they? They don't just name the person. They tell you where he is. He lives on this street at this house. You know what? I'm sorry. I said John Doe, not this John Doe, but some unnamed person, Bob Doe, Frank Doe, Mary Doe. Whoever, they will go so far as not just to tell you that there is a danger, but who the dangerous person is and where they are. Why? So that you can be warned so that you do not have to venture your children not put in danger. You're not put in danger. That's the reason why. It wouldn't be funny, huh? That there is an actual John Doe or someone with a name John Doe on here. But that's why they do it. That's why the people, that's why they let us know that who this person is. And we've always done that from back in the day in the Western days, wanted, dead or alive. This guy, they got a drawn picture of him, you know? Same thing. A three-hand hank wanted, dead or alive for a horse dilly. Ladies and gentlemen, guard your horses. Same thing. Paul does the same thing. Paul on his deathbed, what does he say? Beware of Alexander. Why? And he even tells why because Alexander opposed our message. And so here James is writing, he says, my brother, if any, not any of you Christian, but any, look what he says, if any among you, the word, and there's a Greek word for among this here. So if any among you, so if any among you wanders from the truth. In other words, here we are, these Christians, we've got these, this doctor, we've got this teaching. And if there are some that are there listening who are hearing, if any of them wander away from that truth, you go back, you. Now, you go and you, what does he say? Let's put it back on the screen. Let him know that whoever brings back a sinner, so we're talking about a sinner. We're talking about someone who did not ever receive the truth, because he calls him a sinner. He says whoever brings that person back from wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a mouth to the sin. So, what has happened? Because of that, you necessarily have to call balls and strikes, you have to say, this is right, this is wrong. Satan does not like that. The reason why Satan doesn't like a person to have a debate argument is what does it do? It makes you go out and actually look at the scriptures. It makes you test the scriptures. It makes you go back in search and see, huh, this person has a point. Or you know what, I've read this and read this and read this. This person doesn't have a point. But it further entrenched you in the word. It gets you reading what he didn't want you in the word. He certainly didn't want that. And so, yeah, we're gonna do that. So, here's the truth. If a person says to me, you shouldn't call them out. Say it one time. Once is enough. As if police stop arresting people once. Hey, this guy committed a crime. We already arrested him once, so that's it. Let's let him back on the street. Let him do what he's gonna do. We've already arrested him. We've already arrested that guy, which by the way is happening now. We've got folks to get arrested then. Now we arrest him. Let's let him back on the street. And what does he do? Go out and hurt somebody. Go out and kill somebody. Yeah, we have that. No, every time that you commit a crime, every time that you do wrong, we're gonna call it out. Who doesn't do that? Did Jesus say, hey, y'all, avoid the Pharisees one time? Did he call the Pharisees once or multiple times? And so we'll keep doing that. We will keep doing that. And if you want to defend them, well, guess what? Get in line with them. We'll call you out too, as someone who's giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Now, it'd be one thing if you did it because that's your nature, you're just a nice person, whatever. But it's not a thing that you're doing because you don't want this bad doctor to be called out. Now, interestingly enough, what he's talking about, I think this is probably one of the videos. The comment section is about something where someone's arguing against what he believes, also, all this debating back and forth, all this arguing, we gotta do something about it. Yeah, keep doing it, keep it up. Satan has never, matter of fact, again, the Bible has never, has never called or deemed it a bad thing when Christians are discussing the scriptures, long as they're not killing each other. And so there's a way to do it. We do it in love, but at the same time, we are going to do it. We're going to call out sin when we see it. We're going to call out bad doctrine. If you think the doctrine isn't bad, but it's good doctrine, well, then fine. Speak your point, show us in the scriptures where you're right and other person's wrong. That's how you do that. That's how you do that. So I had some time, I wanted to put that out there. And interestingly enough, by the way guys, when we called out these false prophets, and I'm not just throwing the term false prophet out there, just be throwing it out there. The people who were giving these prophecies about this wealth transfer that's going to happen either on August the 30th or the last two days of August, the first day of September, they had these prophecies and they didn't come true. Then someone said that the wealth transfer is going to happen before the summer's over with. And the wealth transfer is going to happen with this cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency had been, and a particular cryptocurrency, Shiba Inu, didn't happen. Then a prophecy on October 22nd, where the banks are going to crash, there's going to be all these rides in the street and so forth, didn't happen. And so what did people do? Defended the person, kept. Matter of fact, one of the ladies who was giving these false prophecies has decided to turn off her comments. Because I don't want to hear all this bad stuff about me being wrong. And I don't want other folks to hear it. But the problem was you had people defending them. That person, that's still a man or a woman of God. How? They just gave a clearly erroneous prophecy and blamed it on God. So you got folks defending them. Okay. So now we look at you. And the warning is still for you. So we are trying to, you who are wondering from the truth, we are trying to bring you back. Bring you back to the truth so that you can place your faith in the actual truth and that the Bible, as James says, that your soul will not be destroyed. That you won't die a sinner. That's the point. And if you don't want to eat it, that's fine. There's plenty of other people that need to eat and heed this so that they don't die a sinner. Stop trying to bring people down with you. Stop trying to take folks to hell with you. Stop trying to, if you want to remain ignorant, that's on you. If you want to be blissfully ignorant, they say, what do they say? What do they say that ignorance is bliss? I get it. If you act like you're in this natural glorified stupor, fine, fine. But don't make sport of other people trying to take them with you. Just because you can't get it or don't want to get it, don't do the same thing as someone else. How horrible is that? Your fate where you are doomed and you want other people to be doomed with you, you want other folks to be miserable or ignorant like you. No, we're not gonna stand for that. Again, David went and defended the name of the Lord. It wasn't that, man, he's talking crazy all my Jewish buddies. No, he wasn't going to defend the honor of his brother and he didn't go out there in the middle. Like, what's the guy driving the Hyundai that got beat in Rodney King? He didn't go out there, hey, Philistines, hey Jews, can't we all just get along? No, we can't get along. How shall two walk unless they agree? What fellowship has light with darkness? So we call it out. We call it out. David went out to fight because who was this uncircumcised Philistine who is blaspheming the name of the Lord? No, I'm not gonna have it. Where's my, where's me some rocks? Oh, I got my rocks whipping right here. Pulled out a slingshot. I don't need a knife. I don't need a sword. I don't need your armor. I don't need your shield. My righteous indignation for you blaspheming and coming at the name of the Lord. That's all I need. Matter of fact, whole still life. I got you in my sights and that's how it's gonna be. And so if you wanted to defend them, fine. Do it at your own discretion and we'll let you and God deal with that. But as for us and for all of us others who are, we call ourselves smart Christians and for everyone else who wants to know the name of the Lord we are going to serve the Lord and do so with pride. Amen.