 Ben, we're on. The day's guest. We've got a lovely Kyle Faulkner. How are we brother? Good man. First of all mate, thanks for coming on the show. I appreciate it mate, I know you're a busy man. And second of all, congratulations on the album, get me at least. There's no questions mate, we just kind of fucking roll with it. Talk about, go back for the past, where you were grew up born, how it all started. I was born in Dundee, nine miles hospital, 1987. Like, six in a six, 87, cracking day. Day of life. I went to scale, played football, snooker, that was my thing. Got a guitar, got it done in. Joke about age? About 13, I've used to get it done in, but I've got it really done in one time with golf clubs a lot. After that, my brother-in-law bought us a guitar and says like, you need to kind of stop going out for a bit. And that's kind of, that became when I became obsessed with it, and the Beatles. The Beatles and getting done in changed my life. Exactly, the Beatles. That was my thing, it's funny because you hear it a bit a lot of people. He's like, oh I got it done in here, that's what changed my life. And it's like, it really did though. And then we're kind of the band. I think everyone in St John's high school was obsessed with it. They were on the stone, those were the Beatles or the Washes. But it was kind of all three. And then we just started covering them songs in a band and then we started beating Irish dancers, because Irish dancers used to win the talent show every year and we kind of won. With that, 30 quid you used to win, beat by a carrot. And you go, you've got to give it to charity. It's the point you get in a competition if you cannot spend it on a carrot. When you're floating it out. What was that like? So that's where it started, 13 then. Was it gang fighting? Yeah, there was always gangs in Dundee, but it was just like chasing each other a bit. You just chasing, you never hit a cock. But the one time I did get caught it was like, aw shit. It was like, oh no, just chasing then eventually it was turned around. That's what it was like, shit. Shit, your bag's right around there, they come back and help you. So there's loads of debates of who ran back that day. It's still this day when you're going to swallowing the party. It's like, it came back for you now, you know what? You left me for dead. So that's where it started, 13, but that's classic Dundee mate, because that was a bit wary coming here the day and you say, it's amazing the day is that. Did we start bringing the Nicene Guns visit? And then we caught this beautiful place of places. It's spot one man, lovely. This is your local in now? This used to be called the dog house. So when we first became, we used to play in a place called the Bay View, because my cousin had a pub so he just gave it for nothing. So that's where we got our name, the Bay View. But then it wasn't very good. We had to sort of get out of there. I think we were drinking too much and we were like, I might not be drinking the bar drill in town. It was like we had debt and stuff. We came here and we painted the whole top floor for Sarah. I used to run it and she was like, right, you could just rehearse for free. But then once we got it looking nice, we had that to be Super Nintendo and we were living off of Super Noodles for a little across the road. We used to just like share them and just like, hey, I could have kept them. We never left the place. Again, we would stay overnight and just pretend we were living because we were the key and it would just stay overnight. Hey, mental parties and then once other bands knew that it was a cool bit, they were like when we first got signed, we start touring and the other bands were coming in and they kind of ruined it. It took over and it was like people were getting charged to go up there and I was like, what's happening to our room? Where's our gear? Where's my Super Mario? I mean it was that gone. So that's what we started then on D, the band, with age? Yeah. Did you get signed? Well, we started the band when we were 14 and then we were done covers and then we kind of split up because I can't remember, people were getting apprentices and stuff and apprenticeships and Abdu was getting into different stuff and then we went away and then I was my dad's funeral and we were kind of the first time I'd seen the boys in ages and we were like kind of pissed up. We were a bit 16, like wanting to get a band together again. It was like, okay, we'll definitely do it because my cousin's got a pub. So we'd done it and then after that, like Keane was writing songs and I was writing, we'd both been writing for a while but we were like, oh, these are actually pretty good once we got together and done them. But that's how I kind of started. So the boys who were in the band the few way, you started a brotherhood, you grew up with these boys, they were in school. Yeah, prime, like, nursery, primary, high school. They were all a year above me in school and then that just kind of, we just always been there. So it's... When did you realize, fuck me, we've got something here, we're brilliant, we're decent here? I'm not sure, like, maybe if I... I think it was when my brother-in-law came down to the stage when we were rehearsing, we had like four songs, it was like Claudia coming down a superstar, Tray's man and someone else and he came down and my brother-in-law was like, wow, that's really good and he was somebody I was respected because he played guitar and stuff and he kind of taught me a couple of things and I was like, oh, wow, it must be good and then we went up to the stage because we were still doing covers but we had like four of our own songs and people were going mental because I used to play on my own up above in the Bayview and I used to play the Garry Barlow covers and on and just like any of the females shouting out like, gari! and I'd be like, nebar! now it's time and I broke out of our talks and I'd be like, oh, this is no bother the title is, OK? so I had my NPA system and I was like, wow, and I was becoming a wee bit of a thing so I was like, come on, the next time I'm playing, I'm going to actually bring a band and they were like, boo! and I was like, nah, they're good honestly and they Garry Barlow, they weren't good, I mean, but it was good but after that, then it was like, a member Kearn was like, we were like, actual band, because this was a pub, this is a venue, it was a venue, well it still is, but it's not, I used to be a major venue and they were like, oh, the colour angels are playing, and I was like, we're getting to play with them, and I went, what a real gig, what a shiting myself! I'd be running about like getting shots of jackets and what we're going to wear and I'm like, oh, you've got a carrot and I'm like, oh my God, freaking out, and I only played four songs but I remember my sister video that I was sitting with and I remember that was the first of her gig in here, so it must have been, a year after that, so I'd just been there, used to be done this thing called the world tour of Dundee, and we played the worst pubs in Dundee. Right? The worst pubs? Well, no worse, but the roughest, but to us, that was like where we're drunk, but now we're like, we're all shot at dinner and stuff, but that was like mental, we played the rock, the rock, and it's how much it was mental, it was like, oh, people were sniffing gear on the stage, and I was just like, go away, and people were just going up and it was mental. Do you remember any of it? I can't really remember back in the day because that was, that was like, this was like dead early on, but there was a lot going on then. I mean, even when we got signed and stuff, we didn't realise how big a deal it was, because we were kind of always treated like kids up until a bit. Now. Right? So, right? So, honestly, I was always like, oh, how much are we getting paid for that gig? Ah, what do you want to know that for? So what we're always about, wee bit stupid fed with that thing, we just thought it was getting done for a while. I mean, we've heard about 12 different managers, so it's like, it's caused a flood, decent management. So, but finally, I think I've, I think I've, like, got good guidance now. I'm in a good, I'm in a good position, but I think, like, just for the ages, we're not interested, you know what I mean? We were, we were into getting smashed and playing the gigs. Even the gigs got in the way, do you know what I mean? It was like, it was just a big, a big pirate bus, just going everywhere. A big fucking old Jesus. Yeah, it was mental, yeah. I wish you'd have teamed up here in me. Well, a crazy day there. But teeny partner at is well. That must have been a buzz for you. That must have been. When did you realize, right? I'm, I'm making it here. I'm really doing something in my life. Did it scare the shit out of you? No, I didn't think I ever done that. We were, we were a bit, we were dead cocky. You know what I mean? It was like, I think, like, when, I mean, it was small things, kind of for us, because you're heroes and stuff. I remember, like, we played with an old galker in the Royal Albert Hall and it was just even going about. It was like, it was like, it was like that was your hero, kind of. So that was a big deal, kind of. It was just like, whatever, kind of, we were playing that gig, played three gigs that day and it was like, it was kind of, we were just coming back from New Zealand and it was like, there's loads of stuff, kind of, we played Glaston Bay like six times now or something, it's like, but it back in the day, kind of, now it's like, oh shit, I want a headline. But it's like, when we were headlining, we were just like, right, man, let's go, let's go and get it, let's go and get it, let's go and get it. Do you have a math rate button then you take it out? But I was like, oh, pellets, get it man, somebody in Sledge or something. Yeah, it's like nine o'clock at night at Glaston Bay and I went, why would I do that? I wouldn't dream of doing that now. Can I win? 100,000 people? Oh, it was meant to be. I can't even remember like actually playing the gig, but I remember just the one that was really fast and I was like, yes, yes, it was fast, good. Right, no, on a bad one. We just got the job done a bit with George. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Get it. Do you have three times? Yeah. How's that? How have you found all that? Um, it's good, it's good for anybody. Can anybody, if he doesn't know that problem, it's still good. It's like you'll find a problem. I mean, I'm saying that that's how you should go, but I mean, the first couple of times I went, it was kind of, it was kind of, you go in, you go in. I was like, I stopped nudging, I was kind of, I didn't want to go in, I think you should go, you should go. So the first time I was just like, I'll be good, it's Thailand, but I've been to Thailand that many times now. I've gone to jail the first couple of times. But the third time I went, I was like, I wasn't talking about serious, I was just looking to get a pile on the just class region boy James. He was like, your name's same as well. But he was like, he was really, you meet all these people that have got serious issues. Serious, serious issues and I was like, wait I'm just talking about this here, I'm not belong here. And by the third time it has happened, I was like, maybe I do belong here. I remember, I was like, the people in that area were saying, see after a month, if you do a month and you're getting on good you can go to the studio and I was like, I'll pretend I'm really good, I'll run every day, and I'll speak polite, and I'll listen to people's stories, and I'll share and all this. And then the month came and I was like, got like customers there, like yes, I'm at a big social meeting, like no, everyone doesn't, you're not ready to go. I went what in the captain for the two months, and I was like, on so that was me, like cut me up, take me away. Three months there, fucking, no it wasn't at Christmas, it was, but it felt like Christmas day for me when it happened, like because it was, it was Christmas day was taking away from me. I was like, what kind of like so? But the first thing, like I say, admitting you've got problems is it fucking, it's so scary whether it's drinkers, shagging, gambling, anger. It's scary because you go, you don't want it, but you think they're all right? I used to go to my gambling meetings, I used to look about and go, I'm always bad as fucking him, I'm always bad as him, but sure as fuck a week later I'm back gambling, putting the way in stuff, fucking lying, all the bullshit in the day and then you go wait a minute, have I got a problem? Because all the shit people might think, I'm always bad as fucking him, everybody else, but it's all for us. But now you're only straightening that, oh man, you've released your new album, everything's going good on it, you've got a new baby daughter, one and a half? Yeah, she's one and a half, yeah, wild, she's good. Seeing them things, I always think, oh I hear a burn, must be mental because I feel my pulse. But it's quite, I've talked at a mystery, do you know what I mean? It's not like anything like shit, I really enjoy it, it's like somebody, where was I? I went to pick up something from my sister at the end, she's a nurse, and I can't remember what it was, but I went into the heart, I can't remember what it was in for her, but she would just pick up this bag and I went in and the wife was like, oh, and she went, oh, so how are you getting on with the daughter now? And I went, oh, it's okay, it's okay, another fucking says okay. I say, that's amazing. And I was like, didn't it go sprensed of that? And they say it's okay, it's okay. I haven't worked with that up, you know what I mean? That's interesting. Yeah, that's interesting, stars, get away. It's fucking hard. You'd either play glass to him or anything. We'll ball up naked for the edges and sit and watch the way, and that's how hard it is. It's difficult, especially, but I think that's one of the reasons you changed as well and say, right, fuck it, I'm going to rehab and I'm going to a real bash. Well, I don't know, I think like, because when we were in rehab, you know what I mean? It's nice shagging a wooden rehab score. That was where she was staring at that. That was where Ben was conceived in the rehab. Well, we're actually friends. I thought, like, why just do it? And then it was like, I mind it, honestly, when I say, look, I've got this dart and I was going to be pacing the room. This was like when I was just kind of coming to myself, being in for like a sort of three weeks, maybe a month, and I'm just like, couldn't really sit doing it and bomb it every day and it's really no good. I mean a bad place and I'm still like, I'm just like fidgety and I'm no real listening and I'm no happy. I'm there and I'm like, okay, I'm out of there. And I say, look, sorry. And I'm just trying to, I say, look, if this dart goes in this board first time. I say to them stories here, but it's true. I'm like, if this goes in here, I'm mad. If this hits the bills, I, war is pregnant. Nah, I'm setting that life changing, honestly. And I swear to God that I'm just pure, I'm no bad at that, to be honest. But I was like pure, none of the shaggy, I'm just shaggy. King's a beer off the belly before you're getting pure. But right now I'm like, yes. So the next day I didn't even ask God if she's pregnant. I knew she's pregnant. I was like, she went, guess what? I went, I can't. I was like, she's pregnant. So that was when I kind of changed after that. I don't know. But there has been a couple of, like, kind of a couple of slip-ups, because that's what he does, but it's like no, like, feel on. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I get that, I told myself back in line, you know what I mean? It's like, it's no. It's been running two, three years and four years. It's a couple of weeks since then. Yeah, because I used to go on benders for like weeks on end. And I was like, and then it was like, I always thought that I never had any pals, but then my pals were weird. I was kind of a lot of mad. I mean, I was at a pub because I was there with my good pals. And he was like, he was like, here, just know me funny, but there was three, four years you were a dick. You were a fucking asshole. I still get it, I'm clean. And I was like, I was like, what? When was I a dick to you, man? Mate, all the people say that. It was not just me. He said, but I'm your good pal. And that's how I tell you, he says, but I just know I'm saying you're some this work now, though. I was like, but I was just, ah, then years I was thinking I was some. And he was going, nah, you're a dick. And I was like, shit. I was like, you're kind of the mentality. Your head, you think, oh, I'll have to go home and say I'm some. I'm the funny guy out. But you're no, you're the guy that flies asleep because he's as well. Do you know what I mean? It's a shield in it. I was always allowed to have guy. I was always for there because it's a mask. Everybody think he's fucking. He's a great guy. He loves himself and he knows how to have a good time. But I never seen me in the house fucking depressed through a signal. Do you know what I mean? Hate life. I don't really see that side of you, but at a party you get the dick out and you're tapping the tables, man. You're lying after lying and you're loving life and you think you're big. But all the gear that I was taking, I was fucking boss. I had all sorts of debt. And I was gambling. Just all end up one vicious circle. But you end up surrounding yourself with people who have parties as well because it doesn't feel as bad then. But deep inside you kind of know what's fucking right. Do you know what I mean? What kind of stuff were you taking? Just with Charlie? Ahun. Ahun. Men? Ahun. Ahun. Ahun. It was mainly Charlie, yeah. But like, ahun. I mean, back in the day, everyone was everything. I mean, like, you took anything, but... You get it back then? Ahun. Like, back in the day. Ahun. But like, there used to this be like, you just didn't have things. It was a collective buy, you know what I mean? Like, let's go, we're going on tour. Let's bank. I mean, but... I mean... You know, there's stuff that I didn't like to admit to some of the stuff I'd done. But like, I mean, I didn't... It wasn't... It wasn't good, you know what I mean? There's a lot of people that even were... Back in the day, were kind of dabbling on how gone, you know what I mean? Fucking loads of people. So it's like, it's kind of got a wee flag fear. But kind of wouldn't really touch. Even after... When I was still on the channel, I wouldn't just touch any other stuff. It's like, it's the well dodgy. But there's... There's only a handful of people that took a while. And it's like... Fuck that. It's a slippery slope, but... It is. It starts happening with people smoking joints and all, or whatever. And then it goes to... You know yourself, it goes to smack, or crack, whatever. It's a slippery slope, man, because we're constantly searching, the human beings. We search for stuff. We search. How do I feel good for me? I was searching for all the rank stuff. Because every time I was doing it, it would just make me feel a hundred times worse. Do you know what I mean? Do you feel as if... Your career, because you're... Did it hit a speed bump? Did it hit a speed bump? After a review? When? How long did you stall as well? Two for a year? Nah, well... We were always playing it. It was just like... I think the longest we've ever taken was like a year, maybe two years. But I mean... We'd done like a... a seven-year setlist thing, where it was... It was like we were maybe doing a new album, and then we finally got a visa for America. So we were like, oh, it was for two of America. So it's just going to a compilation album and do a couple of songs. And then we went to America and I was like... We went for three months on the bus, and then we'd got our money cut. Something happened, but we got like... The tour manager was like, there's no money left, so you've got $10 each a day, which is like, fuck Swiss. Getting on, right? And it was like... I mean, there was a couple... The sold out shows were like in New York, like LA to San Francisco, which was good, but then... Cos why did they such an extensive tour? It was like... We were going in and out of these wee Newton crannies that we'd never even heard them before. In these places, and just to try and cover the cost, and it was like... I wasn't running out of money, and then it was like, fuck, and then... But at that time, I was just banging a baby who was speaking to us for three months on the tour bus. I just got walked away in this wee bit. I was just sitting with a big massive telly on the tour bus. I used to go... I would move out, get into the street. I used to sit there, fucking drinking my Bud Light, as much as I can get out. And then a couple of gigs, I would just go on, sing one song, and go, fuck, there's maybe here, I'm off, and then... I was like, but look, we're not sitting here. You can't just leave the show, and I was like... One time I was in Detroit, and I was like, I was like, fuck, I love him, and it was one of my big influences that I loved him. I loved his first couple of albums, and then I was in Detroit, and I was like, I had a cup of the kills in the morning, and I was like, what the fuck are you doing next? Do you mind you're playing the night? I went, no, I'm a planist, I get really drunk, go to sleep, and I wake up and play a show. And then I never obviously went to sleep, went and scored, and then fucking, and next went out and pure, like they're pure, so I wanted to talk in the heel tour, and it was like, even then, I was like, man, just trying to get a wee pile, they're like, nah, because your pile wants to go and wrecked, and I was like, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't do something, but they were a while like, and they'd be a while like, going to see the Washington D.C. building tonight, and then I was just crumbled up in bed, I mean, then I'd go up at night and go out and just fucking go and strip the bars and all, and I was just bent off. Were you the hardcore man in the band? Well, I've been hardcore like, like that, I've been pretty hardcore, do you know what I mean? It's like everyone goes through phases, even if you want to stay off it for a bit, and you're like, even a tour, and if you're like, nah, I've heard it too hard, I can't get out of that, and then somebody's like, ah, Pete's just being in the match, he's like, fuck himself, I've just won. Fuck, and wha, it's a bit different when you're annoying me though, isn't it? You're like, no, no, was that what I was doing last night? And then it's just a big rotation, so there's never... If Nadie's ever sober to say, right, last man, we've got something here to take over the fucking world, do you know what I mean? If one's getting mad about it, then if you're trying to stay clean for a week, but then somebody else is getting mad about it, then the five people you surround yourself is the five people you've become. So the people you surround yourself when you become them as well. So it's hard for you to get away at change unless everybody came in agreement, because you wouldn't have changed, unless everybody has changed, because if you were sober in that bus, everybody would have done your fucking nothing. Do you know what I mean? It would have drove you the drink. It's hard this, didn't I think, like, fuck no, it's almost something, isn't it? Maybe he's ever, maybe he's ever going to be fully happy, but I think, like, we do good, Ken, like, we've non-stop turned, we've done it more than anybody, I know, like, kind of like, I'll probably get a few things, and fuck you have to turn there, no, but I doubt it. Like, turn there, no. Yeah, we have non-stop there. But, and even when there's time off around the studio, we're doing something, do you know what I mean? And it's like, because, like, there's has been a few, there's ups and downs with being, like, bang, and then next minute you're big in Spain, and then next minute you're like, yes, that's good, but you come back to the UK, and you're, like, playing fucking Bristol, but then it's about the Bristol's cost, but one minute you're in academy, and next minute you're playing tackle, and next minute you're up to the academy again. So it's always something doing for us, it depends, you know what I mean? It's not like, yes, we've got that hit song, it just depends on getting what we've had. So how does that end? How do you see it's in life, man? It's easy to make it, but it's hard to maintain. So what happens is some people get a certain season go, I'm not saying news, but we've made it. If you think you've made it and you've already took two steps back, it's all about the progression. Getting to a level saying, fuck it, man, how do I go bigger again? Or keep raising the bar, keep going, do you know what I mean? So what do you think? Do you think you've never had any proper guidance on or? Somebody takes under a wing and goes... There's definitely never been any guidance, and I think we were, because of the whole thing, like thinking we're pirates and trying to... We thought we were invincible, and I still do it. I think we've got a fan base, which is good for anybody. Even if we go anywhere, there's always going to be people there. Sometimes it might be up there, Shetland or something. It's half full, but you're still at Shetland. Does anybody come here? It's like... When I ask the thing, you're like, can we at Shetland just class? Can you think? We've been there a few times now, and it's brilliant. Can we went to Orkney recently, and it was like, we thought I never was going to be here, but it was brilliant. Can we stay there for a couple of days, and it was like, even the iron just tastes different, and you're like, oh, this is cool. But like, I mean, it's kind of good to keep showing your toes that you've got to keep working. And I think as well as a band, like the view, we've come, we've been through fucking shit. I mean, like, the Gither is a band, and we've all had really serious fights, like rapping the past, like bang, bang, like, just you're being a dick, and you can't stop it. It's like fucking hand up. I'm going to get nice and fucking dry. Like fucking shut the door, walk him in. I'm like, yeah. Kayla, it's like smashing your tires each other's head in a mental. Can, but like so, and we're still pals, you can't, I mean, it's not like, can, it's like, there's been a few times like, I've just been, I just didn't think I could face the boys and I'm like, oh my God, what have I done? What have I done? It's good, it takes Renett to come in and go right. Here's the wall down, right? It's what you were doing, you were like, he was playing FIFA, you came in and tried to stick a hit on somebody. It was pretty bad. It was like, oh shit. I was going to accept my apology and I was like, shit. Either I can, Abdi's kind of left, like you're on your in here, like I was like, what could you maybe tell me? I was like, no, you need to go and sort it out. But Abdi's done it, like, no, just me, everyone's done it. Do you know what I mean? Hard to apologize. I think Pete's the only one that's no done it, like, so he's all right, but Abdi's kind of done it. So, but I just edit it more than often. Do you know what I mean? I think if somebody was to do that, now it would just be, you're playing it, you know what I mean? That's how it was. But back in the day, it was just a regular thing. Everyone would do it and it would just fall out. But there was more good times and always good times. You know what I mean? It's just because there's aftershows as well. It's known just like, it's the after show, the after show on and on. You just kind of, you're like, let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Oh you're telling me about it? Yeah, you did, yeah, we were just... me and my Master were in Thailand for a few months and William and Debbie were over there been pals for years so they were all just coming to the hotel. So we're just playing it one of the, bit the Shrine Peddw for a few days I was like oh fffokin, Is it pleasant? It's almost pleasant. Bim, how well have you been proud with Liam? I haven't done it again. We all met him at the Liverpool Echo Arena. 2008, so 10 years ago. First time we got access already to his passes. I can't imagine how we had met him, but we just got invited to come back. It's like, whoa, can't wait. It's like, fucking hell. It was amazing. That's some achievement. Do you ever look back and go, fuck me man, I've done alright for myself? Or do you look back with a bit of regret as well? Sometimes I look back with regret, but going to rehab and that, they teach you no regret. It's going to regret nothing. I know you've got your regret. In the past couple of years, I used to just piss my money up at work. I'm always going to be like that, that's the way I am. Unless you find a woman that doesn't know that, but me and my last together, piss money up at work. Just put it in, piss it up. No, put it in, but just like that. So now, I just think like, even getting a mortgage, like driving lessons, just a hand, just pay a hand. Stuff that all the band done years ago. And I'm just clicking on now. It's just a bit of a grown-up. It's just a bit of a responsibility. But later I say the past, as the past is fucking done, you can look back. I could have done this and done that, but later I say it's all about preparing for the present moment. And trying to enjoy the rest of the future. So, what's the next steps for you then? Since the album's released, how does the band feel about that and all? They're supportive. I mean, it's a strange one because it's not just like I'm saying, I use wet, I might do so all. Everyone's doing stuff. I mean, Ciaran's producing stuff. Pete's work at Pete's touring with... Well, I'm not sure if it's something yet, but he's meant to be touring with a big Liverpool band. But I don't know how to mention it in case I forget my job work. I just say it right now. I'm on the streets. So, I have these dance steps, you know what I mean? So, it's good to have a time off because even when we do have a time off, it's not really a time off. But this is actually just time apart, you know what I mean? It's like, oh, I think we should spend some time apart, you know what I mean? Like a mari's breakup on it? Did you get nervous at telling them about the album or did you? Because that can't be as well? When I was in rehab last time, you had to do this thing when you got to make your... You got to apologize to them. It's hard work out to date to people that are friends. But I was like, shit, do I even do that? And it's like, I'm a manager, old manager and how to go and speak to the man like... I was like, but there are souls and it doesn't matter. You've got to apologize to them and I'm like, oh, I'm right, okay. So, I've done that and then it was quite hard to hear that thing, like one of my ex-managers. And then he was explaining to her what he was being. I was like, shit, so I was like, really hard, can't I mean? But then you're in this sort of group thing and how to date to the band. And I was like, well, kind of pawant and aminesis. And you know that I've offended everyone personally, but you just do it. You just make amends. My whole family, so I thought, I'm not just going to get a collective thing and have a group chat, I'll do them one by one. That's a lot of bulls, but... And even some of my family were like, what are you doing this for? I'm like, just accept it. Just let me go. Just accept it. It's cool, can you? I'm not going to be getting these letters every day. Just accept that one in a million. I'm not going to date again. That's kind of closure for you to move on to the next level. I've done it to the band and they were like, it's cool. I've done it all the time and you're one of yourself. And I was like, what, for that long? He's put up with us. It was quite bad, so... Were you that bad? So I've been told that. So you remember? What was the trigger point for you about to aspire a little bit and just go fuck it? Was there a point? There was none. I just thought there was no limits. I just didn't know. I was in jail and I thought, how did I get here? I mean, I could blame it on anything, but... It was always like when I'm just sort of... Somebody always says something. I mean, somebody come up to me in Glasgow and went... I was told that you fucking... You were hitting your brother or something. I was like, what the fuck are you on about? Dig this. It was in the box or something in Glasgow. I'm like, what the fuck did I just get digged there for? I'm like, next kind of... I've normally got a wee bit of a fucking heavier into this. Just in case that... I used to have loads of heavies because it was constantly bothered. I used to have a personal one. I had two on the bus. I was pure. It was really nuts. But now it's just like... I've got the power of the looks afters and that. It's just not that I need looking after, but there is. People read in the paper sometimes, some of the shit they're reading. They think, these of you are, so I'm going to dig them up on the bus. It's like, what have I done to you? Mudge sticks, but... You know the price for your personal way to sell is for a negative or whatever. So people read with the belief that people's automatically go, I'm going to call him when I see him. But then you start to get a chip in your shoulder. And you think everybody's looking at you and they use the paranoia kicks in or not. So that's why if you have a baby in the pub or whatever, then you've got that, I don't give a fuck mentality. Because I don't care if anybody's going to say it, so you're prepared. There's a lot of that. Do you know what I mean? Now a days, even in Dundee, I used to go with my head up and I was scared to go with it. Just waiting on the next thing happening. But now it's like... I've no been out of course. Even in Glasgow, there's certain pubs that I wouldn't go into. But now I'm like, somebody wants to speak to this, to speak to this, but I used to get scared. But I was like, what? Of course I've done a dyn on that. Now I'm just like, can I embrace it? Can I embrace it? Can I then be once a fully? So... So you're gagging now. You're sailing now. You're getting an album on tour. Where's the next gig this weekend? Falkirk is this weekend. Then we'll go to London. Then it's like a wee sort of UK thing. Just as this is sort of tested with the band and stuff. Then there'll be bigger dates at the start of next year. This is just sort of like just breaking in. And then we'll be going to Asia and Russia and Europe and shit. Just the same old what you do, that's what you do. So have you got a new band? Got a new band, yeah. It's sad, it's just like sessions. Are they sober? They're not sober now. They're not sober now. And I've got another couple of guys in us together. We were like, wow, that was a party. Even on rehearsals it was like, let's get the beers first. So you can't really... No sure I've been through so many band members trying to get the right ones. But I think... It's just you. It's just like... I'm not going to put the nail on the head. So it was some good to get her. This new band is about... So see with the view, every record we progress a wee bit and harmonise playing and just getting better with instruments. Because we have sort of grew up together playing together. So everyone would progress together. So with... Every album you could hear the difference. It's like more harmonise or there's more... Whatever, you know what I mean? So with this new album it was kind of just me doing it and I do all the vocals on it. So normally the boys would do that. But now I sort of know what I want it to sound like. So now it's like going with the new band. It's like you've got to do this. And that's how I had to get the right band members to pick the right... The play and it's about all these mental vocals and it's like trying to recreate the song and trying to... Is that the newest vintage album? Is it something different for you with the view? So normally with the view you've got a formula. I'm not sure what the formula is, but I would stick with a guitar solo. I would say I find a drum beat kind of nervous. And it wasn't about that. It was about writing the song and then adding what was needed to it. It was like strings and I wrote all the string parts from this melaton thing, which was like an old... Paul Weller studio in Blackburn in Surrey. And it was like this old melaton, which was Paul McCartney's. And it's like a tape thing. So I recorded all the strings on that. And then once I wrote all the harmony parts and stuff, I gave them the Cairn strings. And they recorded it in Glasgow in Chem 19 and they'd done all the string parts. And I like pied it out and made it sound like that. Because originally I wanted it to sound like the Beatles sort of went charging peppered, but that's the hardest thing in the world today because it's the greatest album ever. I mean that's what I had in mind, but then it ended up becoming my poppy, which is a big fan of crowded house, beautiful south, squeeze and stuff, kind of that kind of thing. So that's kind of what I was going for, sort of serious but kind of cheeky. I mean a personal album as well, was it a bit more joy, a bit more... All the songs that are about me, that's like weird. Somebody wrote them, because I had done this interview in Glasgow recently where I was going eh. I mean Narcissist, just joking, I mean Narcissist, now he's laughing, so I went, oh keep saying that, keep this working, getting me. Narcissist I go no! Go for it! This is working! And then somebody went eh, that fault was no bad, but he said fuck it, he's a Narcissist gun. I was fucking joking there. But it's quite narcissistic, the record, it's me singing about myself. So normally Kearn writes some songs and now Peach's writing as well. And then you've got, all the problems I've had in the past be well, do you know what I mean? And it's kind of like, no thank you. But you've overcome them as well. Yeah, I mean, again, it's still one of these things, they didn't ever know if you've really overcome anything. It's hard to understand what the problem is in your mind. Everything is the mindset, everything you battle up here, I just read that six guys committed suicide in the last week through the army. He means that we're battling, that's where I think body drugs, body drink, we're searching for it because we want to take these voices, we want to get them away man, we want to feel at peace in it, calm, but we can't really do that because we don't really know what our path is in life. But from talk of experience, when I spoke to the bar stuff, you start getting aware, you start getting clarity, and you start going like that, I'm starting to feel good, I've done this, I've tried to change, I've done new things, you have to unravel that madness then you start figuring out who you are again, which is a difficult thing to do, it's difficult, except a year or so in the past, is what I mean, you put your hands up, it's difficult, but then you start getting used to it, you go, you know what, I was a dick in the past, I know what you are, where's your biggest following? Because you've talked about Russia, where's your fans or what? Glasgow, Glasgow's our biggest following. We've done this a couple of times, just that place, we did well, we did well every place, but I mean America back in the day was the big end, we got Ask Apple Award and stuff, which is like this, writing a song writing award, George Martin's Beatles producer presented it to Pete and me and Cain were writing the songs at the time, and we were in Morocco, I can't remember, we were somewhere on a writing trip, a writing trip, and Pete was like, oh by the way, I usually won an Ask Apple Award, I was like, no way, we were in Mexico actually, we were in Mexico on a holiday, and I can't remember, we were someplace and Pete was there, I can't remember, but so we were taking off in America and they got cancelled, we couldn't play there anymore, so we got banned for like six years, and then I toured with Mark Ronson for like three years, and then he just me on in and then he got a letter from Quincy Jones personally to speak to the visa people and he spoke to some people Quincy, so Mark Ronson phoned him, and they got their visa sources. Something like that, I was like, I'm not sure, but it was something like that. Were you banned for America for six years then? It was just visa issues there for like, it was just me. Is that where you're mad this in the past in jail now? Were you ever there since? No, it was all weekenders and fucking dap shit. That one happened again though, you've never seen me in the fucking cells. I wish I could say the same for myself, I'm a good guy now. We've got, there's two singles out of the year and then the next one we're going to do a video for it, so it'll be a date soon for that. We're releasing out every single on like, on seven inch, we've already done two. So we're going to do like five singles and have a wee box, so it's cool as any and there's going to be a separate B-side for everything. But you can only get them on vinyl, kind of B-sides and there's only going to be a few hundred on mid. And where do you people buy all these? You can get them in the Cy Records in Dundee, the only shop that does it. That's the only shop that does it. Get involved people. I just saw what's in looks now. There's going to be somewhere nice to look, but things kind of saying on last agent tells it to the guy. Agent's man. Listen mate, it's been an absolute pleasure for coming on mate. I think you're a great guy man, I don't care what you read a bit of paper. I think it's unbelievable that you've put your new solo album out man and got the best for the way and passing your test man and like I say man, for taking the time out, I really appreciate that mate. I wish you the best for the future. So I'd like to go and get a shout out for coming out on second of September on my YouTube channel. So subscribe also. I've got to check out Indio Paws. It's a friend James's business for a dog groom and dog walk on. Also fan-thirt creative for a pint of fliers and posters for the homeless documentary. 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