 Butta tonight. Hey welcome back to our stupid reactions unit. I'm Rick and he follows on Instagram and Twitter for some cute content. He's trying to follow us to the corner of the world. He's trying to squat. Shane. You know that story? You know that story? You need to look up a story about what happened with uh uh uh Lena Heddy's nipple. Don't look up on the internet Lena Heddy's nipple. Do not do that. It was on The Tonight Show to be clear so it's Lena Heddy's shame on Jimmy Fallon. Don't look up Lena Heddy's nipples. Yeah don't look up Lena's nipples. Uh anyway why are you so cautionary about that? Have you actually done that? No I'm just gonna pull up bad things on your internet. Really probably would. But uh today we were doing a movie review of uh a Tamil film uh 101st not Tamil film. Yeah I don't know if it's uh I don't know when this is coming out but it's over 100. It's over 100. We're in the hundreds now. We're big time. Um but uh first the Nush film uh wanted to get to him obviously because you know he's one of the biggest stars in the Tamil industry. Yep. And uh so I did a poll uh I think I did it on all the platforms uh and uh but it's been requested uh tone. You did I heard you say you did a poll in platforms. Really? Yeah poll dancing in platforms. That's usually how you do it. That's usually how you do it. You do that. Pewdiepie I'll think you're gay again. Pewdiepie already thinks I'm gay. Uh but uh this is our I want to say third fourth Tamil film. I think it's our third. Third or fourth Tamil film. Uh directed by say his name for me right? I forgive me if I butcher your name sir uh He wrote it, directed, produced it along with the Nush uh produced this as well and then it's starring just a thousand other people. Right. Including our mustache guy from uh Family Man um who we also saw in that other film um this whatever I can't ever pronounce that name ever again. Oh yeah but no. That one. Uh Uludavaro Kanananthi. Which was a Kanada film. Yes. This is a Tamil film. Yes. Family Man was Andy. Yes. Multi-talented man. Uh but yes it is a 2008 film um a gangster thriller um style film I guess would be the correct way. Gangster. Gangster film. I think it's a correct genre place for this. Spoiler review. That's just how we do things guys. Uh if you if you like to be spoiled continue watching. If you don't like to be spoiled go launch it come back and you can not be spoiled because that's just how we like to talk about and we do we feel very strongly about that if you've been around at all for a while you'll recognize that we want the movie to tell the story we don't want spoilers but if you've seen it watch on and if you don't care about having the story ruined for you well well whatever power do it. Weirdo. Yeah. Uh but and Rick initial thoughts. Uh I didn't write I actually I didn't write a paragraph. And the reason I didn't write a paragraph is because there I I didn't like it very much and because I didn't like it very much it doesn't benefit anybody if I just nitpick and say what I don't like. I am going to say some of the things that I felt could have been improved but on the whole I just I just really didn't like it that much. Interesting. Yeah. No I did I I enjoyed it but I can see because it it is very confusing uh yeah especially it it's also much more difficult for us to watch this film than it is for you especially if you're a Tamil speaker. Huge way. Because one I think Tamil people I think we've experienced this with every single Tamil film we've ever watched. They speak really fast. Really fast. They they're very fast speaking people. Yeah. Uh not their fault at all. But since we are English speakers and we have to read the subs the subs go like really really fast and so you're trying to soak in all this information and it's hard for you to see everything you can't. Yeah at that at that speed especially and I had texted you early on um for there was a part for me where the editing clips the director for the majority of the film but I was 45 50 minutes into it and sent a text to Corbin and said he was halfway through and I said are are am I going to have to watch edits happen every three seconds for all three hours of this film and he said yeah I really haven't noticed that it doesn't bother me that much but he does like quick. So of course it doesn't bother you that much. Yeah it bothered me a lot for a lot of reasons but to get back to what you were saying in regard to the language and the speed um there was a line that he says um Danish. Yeah at toward the end was it Danish you said it a new a new book. I think it was somebody said so the line was this you don't understand our dialect yeah how you understand it was the new captain you don't understand our dialect how you understand our lives and I do think it's why I this is I don't believe this was intended to be or can have a universal international audience because it is so rooted and grounded in things that are culturally Tamil in nature everything from what it would mean to obviously have the horror of a guy giving a girl a kiss in the back of the house during a movie in the house and now she's the slut of the village yeah that wouldn't happen in most places that I frequently know and I'm not I'm just saying that lack of being able to relate to that aspect of the story I really felt distanced I really felt like the editing had nothing to do congruently with what was going on with the storytelling or even the settings like in prison time stands still but the editing clip was as if we were watching Fast and Furious so I I just but that again that's my own aesthetic there's probably millions of people most especially Tamil speaking Indians who love the film and there weren't blurring horrors with any of the acting so it wasn't like I was watching acting and going oh my goodness this is brutal but for me there also wasn't anything that was like stand out I'm really enjoying this I had to force myself to get to the end gotcha no I actually enjoyed this film there were some I do understand the the confusion part of it and the quick cuts you know I enjoyed that it gave me low level anxiety I didn't made ED and ADH so that kind of just worked that's exactly what in in Johnny said that you probably didn't phase you at all no it didn't I mean cool yeah I actually thought it helped move the story along and helped you keep you interested because it kept going different places and that once again might be my ADD I don't know but I was pretty invested it was difficult at times especially towards the beginning to figure out who all these people are but also that's that's a common theme with gangster films that's usually how they do you there's a bunch of players you don't connect with them until much much later and usually they kill them off pretty quickly correct they did that in this as well yeah and so I actually I thoroughly enjoyed it I was interested it is long for sure but the original cut was five and a half hours long but this is also intended to be a trilogy oh so I did hear a rumor yeah okay but I did hear a rumor that they are thinking about making the second part into a web series okay which might make it a little more digestible for us in terms of if you're gonna do that length make it like 45 minute segments well I hope they do that for other reasons too because most gangster films like we can get into this we do it all the time until India changes and we don't have a censorship board you actually have a rating system but the blurring of men's genitals just don't don't film it that way then yeah it's just flat out I don't want to get off on a soapbox about it but you're on the same soapbox yeah and I I did want there to be more gore in a gangster film but that's just yeah just just believable that's just my preference but I also enjoyed a lot of the moments as well like the tent scene when the when the new stab that guy in the back I really enjoyed that entire the way they choreographed it all I thought it was really interesting and really well done a lot of slow-mo fight but that's what most of the fight tour was slow-mo fights and so I really enjoyed that that aspect of it there wasn't really any glaring problems in it for me outside of it was a little long and then I just I wish there was more like um gory just because it's whenever I see it's like when I see um uh something about like if something here's incompetent and you're not showing you're not like people aren't like cussing every single other word right that's not realistic right I if you're stabbing somebody I want to see the blood guy I just like realism like that but I can't talk about I thought Dhanush did a phenomenal job uh I liked him a lot uh for my first time seeing him I thought he was very subtle he was a very subtle actor did you not agree there wasn't just any there wasn't anything that impressed me deeply everything for me as far as the acting from everybody was was fine there wasn't anything where I was riveted or felt or engrossed it I I had to force myself even the women like they were fine the Dhanush's girlfriend and then obviously they I forget his the character's name the one that they all killed that his friend's right his girlfriend who ended up being the orchestrator of everything right right which that is one thing that I thought when it happened I thought ah that's a nice twist yeah I thought she did very well as well um and then I the only reason I kept well if we weren't going to do a review I did this because we were going to review this and stupid babies deserve me to go to the end of the film if I'd been watching this on my own at the 45 minute mark maybe earlier I would have been out really yeah I just I didn't connect with anybody I felt the editing was not just uh like I said what it was but it also didn't fit contextually I thought I thought some scoring choices were strange and I'm willing to I'm not I'm again I'm not just gonna carte blanche say universally this is an awful movie and nobody would like it there may be millions of people who like it it's just in no way shape perform anything that I would I was like okay you didn't like the score I thought I thought the score was weird in places I didn't love it oh no I know I loved it I love the weird choices and I didn't feel like it was intentional weirdness I felt like it was just incongruent no I did I thought it was intentional um and also I loved it was kind of the way they did the musical numbers in this one it was very um um why am I forgetting his name everybody uh we interviewed him he's our favorite no was it no no the director um on your acacia I don't know I forgot his name for a second anyway you know because he said the way he does musical numbers is it's either somebody's singing right or it's background right um and that that's what I felt because like with the whole wedding that they had and the dance I thought that was really quirky and unique the way that the dancers were dancing all crazy um I thought that was really cool and enjoyable so I maybe it's just because my ADD brain works with this style of film and the fact that there's something different happening and they're doing something weird every single other frame uh I enjoyed that I enjoyed that part of it a lot um I understand I when I was watching it I was like I'm pretty sure rick's not going to like this yeah it's just you know we have different styles and that's fine it really it really for me and again like in adrani said she said Corbin's probably gonna like it based on what I was describing to her and it I really do believe this is one of those films I don't believe this with all films there are some films that are just flat out bad and if you say they're good yeah you're wrong uh we we agree about that but we also agree to fight over things where we're both like right this one I it's for me it's a palatableness on a myriad of levels levels where like if you were eating food that you were tasting in india I would taste something and think doesn't float my boat and you'd be like oh I could eat that all day yeah you could eat it all day and float my boat yeah I do agree because like in terms of gangster films I I didn't think there was anything new that came out of it like there wasn't like um like it's not it's not up there with gangs of wasiper for me uh for sure um I think that's a that's a much higher um gangster film and like I said I would put that up against godfather in terms of probably the greatness of that fellow scarface but I this is definitely uh a different take on it it was obviously it's a different director obviously that underikashio he likes to sit in which is obviously something that we both love but this is obviously as well I think the biggest hurdle for any non Tamil speaker is the subtitles um that you're going to struggle with because one you don't know if they're translated correctly right which is why I can't it's so difficult to critique a script um and also they speak very very fast and so you can't appreciate everything else going on the screen that the director wants you to see right when you're just oh crap I missed that one which is another disconnect for me like the editing speed they were speaking so fast I remember putting in my notes that would someone please breathe and think before they speak which that's my preference mm-hmm it's also to me lens toward a greater dramatic element not all the time there are parts which should be woody repertoire and it's going fast but to have every dialogue just be bam bam bam bam and that may be exactly the way I think that's what they speak yeah that may be it that may be exactly the way things happen I think they speak a little bit about right exactly over each other and again for me I really think this boils down to that level of because again there were no blaring artistic things where I felt mm-hmm I had differences of opinion but I didn't see anything where I went okay that's artistically off continuity or whatever this was one of those things where you try something from India and some people go oh I love that I could eat it all day and another person goes ew I can't believe you like to eat that yeah if you love eating that more power to you enjoy it for me it just yeah it didn't float my boat that's very interesting um because yeah like I obviously and I watched it with my wife and I think she was really enjoying it as well that's obviously 245 is hard to watch with a eight-month-old so it was and we definitely watched it in parts like yeah 10 minutes here five minutes there depending on the room he wanted to be in at that moment um but whenever I was watching it because it also was different as well because three fourths the way in they switched because Dhanush was telling his girlfriend basically where it all came from and that's when the the story about the the girlfriend of that guy that the friends killed I don't know their names because yeah so many characters it's hard to remember but the guy that all the friends killed um when they switched to him they stayed on him for a good it felt like 30 minutes yeah I was like oh where's the noosh yeah and they also to his credit I did recognize if any of you've been writing out of the comments the editing um clips did spread out in the second half he did have some long he did have some longer dragger shots in the second second half which did help me I lost that low level anxiety I was feeling got it cool uh but yeah no but I was I was wondering I was like what what just happened but right that happened in godfather as well you know they yeah they go on tangent so and that was the other thing I liked we've talked about this before in films where they don't feel like they have to give you something linear I will give that as that is something I could say I like they had I think 1987 something in the 90s 2000 and from 2004 yeah there was a lot of jumps which also deals with the confusion sometimes but I thought he did a good job the director to kind of let you know because obviously denouche had a mullet for a whole yeah this is funny and all I got is this script has got to be what 480 pages like it's heavy dialogue oh yeah it's a heavy dialogue it's a heavy dialogue but I thought I enjoyed all the cuts because that helped a long film which was apparently five and a half hours right right whoa that's long I mean gangs waspers technically that they just cut it in two parts right um maybe maybe indians just don't have tell gang stories in in short amount of time and well it's a complicated story it is a complicated story and I think most people expect thank you Martin Scorsese a gangster film to be long to be a two and a half hour three hours there's a lot of moving parts and yeah there really are and and the I forgot I went on the Martin Scorsese thing I was just going to say something else about oh that's what it was the uh it may have felt a little bit longer I mean for you versus me for me it felt long because I wasn't enjoying it yeah for you I think it may have felt longer because this is the first three hour one we've seen in a long time that's true it's been a while it had been a while since we've seen a really long one yep but overall I really really enjoyed it I thought it's a really good film especially I mean I know all people from Tamil have seen it of course yeah your Dhanusha is probably the biggest star exactly I would love to see another one of his films I absolutely want to especially because obviously we've seen a bunch of his trailers give us a recommendation for his next film that we should watch to get more into him shot I know I don't know if it's a good film you guys can tell us Shamatabh I remember that one with him and him and him and I'm talking about him I know he produces a ton we've seen a bunch of independent stuff that he produced so and he produced this as well no and it looks like he's an actor that cares about the quality especially I mean he's Tamil so we're not saying this is obviously I think it's a really good film Rick didn't enjoy it but like we said it's just because it's a different style that he didn't enjoy yep but I feel like he's an artist that cares about the quality of his film like I don't think he'll tell me if I'm wrong I'm gonna come out with like a war right I'd be no I'd be surprised if if from what I've seen and I would give that as a credit as well because there's sometimes I watch a film and it's funny because we like war because we knew going in yeah we're gonna get you we had great action yeah we knew the action and the acting and story is going to be awful that's fine show us blow them up yeah uh this to its credit didn't take the route of just trying to be a bang bang shoot him up no it was actually it wasn't very much violence I could tell that what they were attempting to do and for for me that didn't hit it but again this is for me that what they were doing was a very serious undertaking and I agree with you I would say based on what we've heard from stupid babies that denouche cares very much about the quality of what he's what he's you have a recommendation of something that you think rick would enjoy uh hopefully I would enjoy it as well hopefully it's not like a a dev desk uh because that would bother me if denouche was in yeah for me the got to you know beat a dead horse sorry to coin that phrase if that's offensive to you uh for me my biggest disconnects were the incongruity of the editing choices and that happening so frequently every three seconds for the totality of the first half the secondary aspect of and this wasn't as troublesome having to follow the dialogue because it was so rapid throughout I don't mind moments of rapidity yeah but throughout and then third I didn't um it was a hard time empathizing with characters facing life situations and cultural situations so distant from my own and there's nothing you can really do about that you can't fake that you can relate to that yeah and I don't want to judge that because it's so it's just so far removed for me so and I disagree with him yeah and that's okay yeah uh but uh let us know the next denouche film let us know the next Tamil film we should watch uh down below please uh and upvote it so I can see it and so we can get this all sorted out and um