 I wanted to introduce myself as the Executive Director of the Brackermage Park Conservancy and to say just a few brief words about the Conservancy. We were formed as a nonprofit organization in 2008 and were organized to be a steward for a steward of an advocate for the park to work with you the community to represent you and work with the city as a partner in what might be improved at the park what needs to be sustained and what could be and enhanced to improve all of our visitor experiences as we walk through the park. The Conservancy operates under a memorandum of understanding with the City of San Antonio however we do not manage or operate the park. We are in advisory capacity in working with the city and the community. It's important I think that we are all talking about Brackermage Park now. It's time. Our Much Love Park is visited throughout the year by people from throughout the city not just one district or no our district too but it it is unable to keep up with the heavy usage. So part of the reason we are all here is to see how can we adapt to what is needed for the park for instance maintaining river walls or restoring the pump house which Homer will go into. But the purpose is not for us to end the discussion. This is the beginning of the discussion about what is going to happen long term to the park and it's up to us as citizens and so I put myself out there and members of the Conservancy are here tonight to talk with you, answer additional questions and hear your comments and I look forward to working with you over time. Thank you. Thank you Lynn. So I'm going to provide a summary and overview of just the process and some of these strategies to date and then once we're done we'll go into citizens and signed up to speak and then after that it'll be in open house form where you can circulate and rotate through the different strategy areas to ask additional questions of the project team. But kind of want to highlight sort of how we got here. So obviously we have strategies to share with the public and through the process the community and former councilman Betty Osable reached out to councilman Trevino district one highlighting the need for additional public input and so the parks department was challenged to do just that and we want to be responsive to the community and so tonight is one of six public meetings after this evening where there's two public meetings left for citizens to come out and continue to provide input through this process and so at this point nothing's been decided no plan has been adopted these strategies you see are just that they're concept ideas no design elements have been considered this is not an implementation plan there is no funding for this project there's funding to develop the master plan but no funding for implementation we're not working with a blank slate so that's challenging for the project team to go through and figure out how we can improve this park at the end of the day public use of this park will not change there's been some misinformation about fees being charged and Easter camping going away that's not accurate this master plan does not address programming in the park what it does is it addresses how we can protect preserve and restore the cultural and historical resources of the park and that was the overarching goal and so what these everybody's holding and what these vision boards have in the back has that in mind and so through this process at the end of the sixth meeting the design team will be charged with putting all that information together and figuring out which of these strategies ultimately move move forward and maybe become part of a final recommendation first off strategy number one increase visibility and pedestrian access to and within the park and so you see three kind of sub components that make that up and depending on where you're coming from or if you're a tourist or not you may get to the park a different way or if you're a tourist you may not know that you just passed Breckenridge Park and so one theme was or one element was to create a common park entrance and theme so that depending how you're accessing the park you'll know you've arrived at Breckenridge Park there's a lot of neighborhoods that surround the park and so research showed that there was poor pedestrian connectivity to the park and so there's opportunity to strengthen that you see in one of the vision elements for number one the third one talks about adding multi-use pathways to increase pedestrian flow one of the comments that we've heard is how can we increase safety of pedestrian traffic north and south of the park east and west and so this in part addresses that second recapture green space and Lou of impervious cover and parking through asset mapping of the park by the project team one of the things that they shared with us which is that 20 percent of the park is impervious cover whether that's rooftops or surface lots one-fifth of the park impervious cover so how can we recapture green space in lieu of that and there's four elements on how that can be accomplished first is to reduce interior parking and access impervious cover to recapture some green space that doesn't mean all parking in the park will go away just it strategic maybe stress points within the park that's where we look at and focus implementing this part or this vision to be establish parking garages on the premier of the park that you'll see relates directly to to see the large surface lot in the park as it exists today is right by the Bracken Ridge Eagle the train depot and so by recapturing that impervious cover as green space a grand lawn the parking has to go somewhere and so the project team identified opportunities along the perimeter of the park not on parkland that garages could potentially be developed and so obviously if we have parking along the perimeter with limited parking on the interior then there's a need to get people to and from points of interests and so one possibility is through providing what is referred to as a people mover or a tram of sorts number three restore natural park features and improve water quality so there's four components there that work towards this end first being restore and stabilize the San Antonio River banks one of the things that the the project team identified apart from the impervious cover ratio is it's a large park with a vast portfolio of features amenities and assets with that comes high maintenance costs so the stabilization of San Antonio River banks is something that the department's doing now but maybe there's more we can do in that regard so this looks at that along the east side of the park is the Katapa Pershing channel which basically is a man-made concrete channel and so one way is to soften that look restore it so still functions as a channel but do it in a way with the natural design and pedestrian walkways there's a lot of invasive species this is not unique to Bracken Ridge Park we encounter this in many of our parks and natural areas so this is also a strategy to restore natural park features how do we better manage our invasive species and eradication and while we do any development whether it's new development retrofit look it including low-impact development features number four restore preserve and articulate park cultural and historical features this directly ties back to what the purpose of this master plan is to protect preserve and restore the cultural and historical landscape of this park so in in 4a it talks about basically raising the profile of the park achieving a certain designation that doesn't exist today with this park that will lend itself to possibly outside funding non-city funding to accomplish just this preserve protect and restore these critical features of the park we know that there is a lot of history of the park was Spanish colloquial dams the sacias and and waterworks and so one strategy one element of the strategy is to look at how we can restore those to provide an understanding for future generations of how this park was once used versus to how it is today there's a number multitude of historic buildings and structures on on the property that also through restoration can again tell the story of how the park use has changed over time creating outdoor classroom there's a lot of education activities that occur in the park today throughout the park but there's an opportunity as well to have a formal area where this occurs there's a sunken garden theater serves as a venue for many events throughout the year and how do we better integrate this into the park so one element looks at renovating the sunken garden theater the fifth and final strategy reduce vehicular traffic to improve pedestrian mobility this ties back to the first one talking about pedestrian connectivity and in safe passage to you know north and south east and west within the park and so you know and also back to having a common park entrance so there's many ways you can get to Breckenridge Park this first one talks about improving the intersection at Stadium Drive in Hildebrand Avenue and having that be as a formal park entrance and a formal zoo entrance typically people will come up St. Mary's to get to the zoo but this would bring them down a different route and so again people know we've arrived at Breckenridge Park 5 B this ties back to the first one about so with that entrance being solidified and directing traffic as a formal entrance to the park there's the opportunity to look at closing the Hildebrand Avenue entrance on the northern end of the park where there's an abundance of historical assets and five C and D highlight possibly mid-block turnarounds along Red Oak and Toledo and St. Mary's these roundabouts would allow people to still drive up to the designated point of interest within the park offload load up at the end of the day whatever the case may be and not have that traffic coming through the park 5 e close Avenue a to public vehicular traffic and allow this similar to you know we talk about Catapa Port Pershing and kind of restoring that as a natural feature allow this area to become a natural area with pedestrian walkway and so those are the five primary strategies of where we're at thus far in the master plan development process good evening everyone my questions were related or my cons related mostly to mobility I work with a senior population some of our events occur at Bracken Ridge Park and there have been opportunities for vehicles to go into the park drop off our seniors Park elsewhere my question is will this limit those types of events for organizations that want to do that and just to bring in a day trip or field trip whatever to to the seniors to the senior population and also to impaired visitors who are in either scooters wheelchairs or other types of devices that assist them in walking as well as renovations will renovations limit the entrances of those special transit vehicles and I know that I spoke with Bill about some of those and he assured that you know because of federal compliance ADA accommodations have need to be made for those types of vehicles and also something last comment will the existing and renovate usually renovated pavilions still remain on site Jossky's cater all of those will those still remain on site for groups or individuals to use thank you regarding the process and letting people know what you're doing I've handed out probably 150 200 flyers to people who really use the park I walk around the park I go every day for two miles and I've handed out flyers 200 at least 200 and I have yet to hand a flyer to anybody that knew what you guys are doing so the real users of the park do not know what you are doing and the Bracken Ridge Park Conservancy that supposed to be a voice and I'm quoting a voice for those who use this treasured park and quote is dedicated to representing the interest of the park users that is an incorrect statement because the real park users do not know what you guys are doing and with the 4th of July coming up that would be a really good time for you all to go out there with your staff and your people and hand out flyers to all the real users of the park and ask them what they think of what you're talking about doing as far as pervious cover I'd like to know where you get the 20 percent from because I've looked at your map and I don't see how it's possible that 20 percent is the case but if it is you can use pavers you can dig up the the pavement and the concrete in the asphalt you can put down pavers you can put down pervious concrete that water goes through you could even put grass and mow the roads through the park but allow cars to drive over them you could put real grass roofs on top of all the roofs that you're saying are a problem uh all I would say about driving through the park is like on avenue A and and all the whole park you're you're going to stop grandpa from going down there and fishing with his kids on the banks you're going to stop people like me who like to just slowly drive through my park you're going to stop all the picnickers and campers that like to go in the park and don't have all day long don't have time to park in a parking garage and ride a tram to go picnic so you are going to restrict the people's use of their park if there were not people like myself and my cousin and others who decided to block walk and hand out flyers at Brackenridge park for all the people that utilize the park most people would not know that this even existed so for individuals to stand up here and say well nothing is permanent this is a draft plan well I have to differ because this plan was already in the works it was already being spoken of they were already moving forward until a grassroots individual decided to bring it to light and say why we as a community as a staple of this city were not aware of this master plan so please take that into light as they want to say draft plan there are a lot of positives but one thing that I do not want to see are parking garages I think that you know you're going to place everybody in a parking garage that has to potentially pay because they did it downtown San Antonio so who is that really going to keep out of the park we all know that Pearl is being it is a new concept and you have the Alamo Heights area but is that really going to prevent all the people that have used this park for generations this is a staple of our city from actually accessing and making this an accessible park there are a lot of cultural elements to this park that we do need to cherish and we need to continue because that is what makes our city so unique is the culture as well as this park so I want to clarify that this yes is that though it's being presented that now our community input is wanted this was after the fact thank you all very much and have a good evening hope that the density because I know this park like the back of my hand so anybody who actually drops off children at an incarnate word on Hildebrand all know that you have a backup from UIW high school so if they plan on I believe that's your strategy five if they plan on making that a singular entrance could you all see Hildebrand being backed up on that high hill and coming down back up and say oh this is your main entrance for people who are not from San Antonio because that's really who we're catering to it seems like are the are the tourists is what's been happening for decades is that people coming down Hildebrand and going on to 281 if you miss that exit that's it you have to go back around there is no accessible way of walking into that entrance so that was just my additional comment thank you I actually love some of the new creative improvements that will enhance the beauty of the park like the modern drainage designs the stabilization of riverbanks and you know just just a vision for for improving of course the the water quality of our rivers and streams throughout the entire San Antonio is important you mentioned like the cost of maintaining the parks is expensive and definitely cleaning up the rivers and everything the streams is definitely a hard work but it's definitely an investment that I think is well worth and that said though I did not like the elimination of the roads that go into the park because I represent the working families of San Antonio and and sometimes it's just really hard to find you know an hour of block of your time to to go to the park I understand like there's a concern of the that maybe lack of parking and concerns about congestion in the within the park and maybe wanting to use more multi like wanting to use more pedestrian friendly spaces so so I think I know recently the city spent money to improve the roads so it would be a waste of money just to completely dig out like all of the the asphalt to turn into to green space I know that it's um we want more green spaces but I think that by keeping people out of the park is not the the answer to that I'm just here because I got an email and it was very scary because I thought there would be no way you could enter unless you paid and there would be a lot of things in there I guess like the tram or whatever you have to pay and now you don't have to you can walk in or take a bike or take a car and I really would not like to see that changed thank you I have a child with special needs and disabilities I represent Hispanic Chamber of Commerce I'm a part of NYTA Columbus I'm also a part of the Bejar 269 Alhambra's we give back to the disabled folks kiddos that are fortunate that it's hard for them to walk we work a lot closely with the with the zoo itself and we have certain recreations that they have or certain centers that I put together for in Brackenbridge which is a little bit difficult for these kiddos and not only for kids but also for elders that are in wheelchair mobility it's very hard and very inconvenient for them to get off from the vehicle finding parking for the disabled sometimes we have to drive around four to five times around the park to actually find a parking for the disabled so it's really hard to actually be on time in a certain location there with our agency or organization or even with the families of these kiddos and such as in my case my wife's a teacher I know she loves going out there and bringing other families on board to try to you know just have a fun time at Brackenbridge and try to figure out ideas of how we can come together and basically just enjoy a nice little picnic you know and putting things together for the family but you know some of those are main concerns such as I know you have the the parking and the shades and all that other stuff that you want to go ahead and bring in sight but I think you know utilizing that it's really hard to come by with being really cultured here in San Antonio with the whole breaking down the streets and doing this and that you know there's a certain way to do it but that kind of takes away from the value of what San Antonio and the culture is all about that's what keeps me here in San Antonio, Texas not going back to Los Angeles but at the same time just meeting some of these historical landmarks that a lot of people are unaware just like La Vita I know I was also you know against all that proposition but anyhow that's a different scenario but some of the other things that I wanted to bring up was also such as I believe you have a trolley or something there and one of your forums there then you know if that's going to be in sight for the for the whole Bracken Bridge such a little trolley park or something like that I think it would be great to have a little something with the disabled for the disabled to also enjoy that because I know I personally had to make a request with the zoo for our kiddo to actually bring out a certain train at Brack to actually just write that train for what is it 15 or actually less than a few minutes or so and it was really hard for us to actually make that come to life and while we were there actually making that request I believe they mentioned well this is the only little train that we have it's been here for years but this is something new that we brought up and it's only unfortunate that it's only one ramp that we have for those that are disabled and I just think we'll just need more of that especially for you know kids elders in any way of having disabilities so that way they could get around the park and all that so I just want to thank you guys once again for having us here but that's something I wanted to bring up thank you thank you thank you my main concern is about Suffering Gardens Theater I'm a user of that theater pretty much once a year and my concern is about the renovation of the park itself and also the parking around the park and the street closure which can also put a damper on what we do out there at the park and we put a lot of money into the park and there's hardly anything that's been done to the structure outside the park I saw this past year they did a lot of improvement as far as the the outside structure and putting plants in not a pretty looking flowers and so forth and so on inside of the park but also the seating in the Suffering Garden Theater is still not has been not been replenished they've been taking seats out of course for various reasons when you break you know put them back in but there are a lot of things that that I've seen that since we've been using apart for some 31 years that has not been improved and I'm just concerned about the the closure of the streets and and the parking around Suffering Gardens Theater but that's those are my concerns and hope that we can get some of those resolved thank you very much for those of you who are not familiar with what parkour is it's a movement-based discipline a holistic approach to self-improvement through physical and mental challenges our community has grown over the past 10 plus years and we use any number of San Antonio parks for our training and with our unique background skills trained at these local parks it allows us to grow and invest in the betterment of our community its members and its environment our practitioners develop a symbiotic relationship with the natural and man-made obstacles the environment directly affects the progress that we make as humans we are I'm here to express the importance of preservation alongside with innovation and some of the restoration projects that you have in place would take away from the obstacles that we use every day we want to get back and we want to help because this is really important to us but we also ask that you take into consideration the way that other people use the park as well for enjoyment and training and thank you so much for having this we really appreciate everything and if there's anything we can do to get back just let us know this will spend a lot of our taxpayer money it will be totally renovated up to date top of the line and then it will be privatized and you will never get back in the door without paying some private group to use our public facility so i'd like this entire thing to start from scratch and start with the public in a public park a park does not include fees or anything thank you and we have seen as an organization about policy making and policy change we're also seeing a lot of this development coming across with plans like the essay tomorrow the comprehensive plan even essay 2020 where we're seeing that a lot of these things are changes are for looking out for the future residents in the next 10 years however it also disregards the current residents and the past residents of san antonio um one of the biggest change when it comes about policy making is that these plans are the initiatives kind of initiative conversations about erasing current residents we're thinking about new garages that talk about parking where we don't even know if they're going to be charging up to five dollars to ten dollars per hour we're talking about garages our occupation of public or even housing we're talking about how people that have been displaced as it is off a Broadway street where they can't even afford the rent or even the mortgages because people are buying up houses and charging a lot and i do travel across mulberry street into the park onto Broadway and i already know how heavily trafficked it is and it does not talk about that this plan i mean i know it's it's like the conversation about but i do want to see the improvements of of that i do see a lot of the focus actually how the pro burry and this park are getting reconnected with the new residents because it is going to be an accommodation for them but not for us and as far as projection walk it is very dangerous to walk around Broadway to even get alone cross it during the day and even at night because people are usually you know will go across the street to buy something to eat or come back um there's a lot of traffic up on hilderbrand definitely i do see a lot a lot because of the schools and we do get worried when it comes to policy and we do get worried about plans because again as an organization we do respecting honor past generations and the new generations do not remove access to the park do not touch one of those drives do not remove one of those individual two three four parking places that are close to the picnic tables i've used the park regularly for over 50 years that's my park it's our park it's their park and what the things that you need to keep in mind is there are a number of us here but for every one person who is speaking you know statistically how many other people there are out there that are not coming forth and saying what they think and feel but share our sentiment you guys know statistics what i would suggest that you do is go back to the drawing table one do not use pearl as an example that development has hidden the jewel of the pearl brewery so that those of us who live here can't see it you talk about access it's not there you need to look at this park in the terms of improving what nature has had i agree you know put more countries back there take out some of the growth that has strangled the native growth improve the little roadways some of that has been done put more access to restroom facilities so as you're walking or running or biking and nature calls you can get to a facility quickly put in more water fountains with pet fountains attached so that when you have your pets and i've got two dogs and i take them out there that when they need something to drink you can get something to drink and soak in your pets i have seen that done in different areas along the san antonio river development we need to have more that it's not a big scientific issue and you need to also look at accessibility for those that have mobility issues i remember reading my mother around in her wheelchair and somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody somebody so use what you have do not destroy what we have now there is a multi-level parking i think it's on avenue a it's the street that runs parallel to broadway one block over avidabee and it's tucked away it's close to the witty that is done very well you have natural vines rolling along the outside of it it is free you don't even know it's there because it's so well camouflaged with the trees and i think it's like four levels and that's a very good example of using the natural area to improve parking in the area that large expanse over there where the the little train has the stop for the zoo that very large area of asphalt and i was looking at it the other day and i thought you know with some really good ecological designs you could have several of those parking areas in that you could diminish some of the asphalt area put more trees back and you would have some vertical parking but right there was accessible again so you don't have to schlep stuff back and forth this idea of having perimeter parking and having to come into our park forget that folks it sucks remember we are the people this is our park it is a people's park please respect the people who live in this community thank you okay wreck arrange park is personal to me when my grandmother came here um the early 1900s escaping the revolution in mexico um she raised her family to enjoy the park i had my second birthday there in 1952 the family all the cousins just got in a station wagon and took a blanket and got under a tree and sang happy birthday to me so um there are long long deep deep roots for the community that have free access to the parks i understand that y'all are not addressing fees that you want to charge people to go to our free park that needs to be struck down from the very beginning not for parking not for access to water to drink not for access to a tram if y'all are indeed going to put this tram into place okay i don't see picnic tables in your pretty pictures um and my family that's the main reason we went to the park for picnics um we bring something from home maybe get some chicken maybe get something to drink and uh just spend the afternoon there are some other concerns there seems to be an understanding that the european influence is the most important aspect of the park as it has been said earlier thank you um the people who are here well before the the barbarians from spain arrived oh used these spaces first so it's interesting that you want to restore and interpret spanish colonial dams asikias and waterworks but it would also be good for y'all to bear very much in mind the importance of the people who are here first and acknowledge the culture and the heritage of the young oana so if this is not going to be a place where every day san antonios can go and have a picnic where we can just to take a picnic a bundle in and sit under a tree or preferably at a picnic table if y'all are going to charge us for any of that that won't fly so this cannot be another gentrification project that keeps the real people who grew up here whose parents grew up here whose grandparents grew up here and whose great grandparents came in from Mexico and were recent arrivals so i know that people who have been here many more generations than my family and y'all need to take care of it for my family and for my family's families and my family's neighbors and the cousin across the fence that's married to the man down the street so keep it keep it's an antonio keep it young oana thank you thank you so my name is Amelia Valdez and i am a staff at the esperanza peace and justice center who was uh last night a part of the session at the father loopy theater in our our concern it was similar to what everybody's talking about and then what came out of that meeting was why fix something that doesn't need to be fixed to a little modest little part they need a lot of work and my family took care of it and my family before my family took care of it and that's casino park 1718 south salsamora fat kids get stickers or thorns in their feet the swimming pool ball wall has been tagged one toilet to about maybe a hundred people fat they get about a hundred and something degrees that's really hot fat people come there every day families to be with their this we got a 345 acre park that does not need to be put through whatever changes you need to be put on but this fix our other parks the city belongs to the city right but also the community parks in the community they really need work so i want to invite everybody come to me forward come to the west side san antonio come see casino park other parks smith park other little parks they just need something just need something minor right that's a peace and justice center we want to make sure things are going to be done right we want the community to have access to any of the planning and also we want to make sure that we as a community are being notified and we visit other parks too it's just not break and reach park it's it's it's a part of our culture yes but we also need other areas that need to be also below that because we don't want kids to be hurt at a place that you know you know that right it's this as i speak and it's i would be embarrassed for people to come through casino park and see all the tagging that's up there at the park but it's a beautiful little park i can only say that at night it glows of how much richness of people that come to that park so yes the rich park might need its minor but it doesn't need what other parts really need thank you so much appreciate it i have to see the community support there's one thing i want to say did everybody get the stickers okay so we're looking only disagree to any of the proposals that you heard tonight so we need everyone to place one sticker on each item have different choices that you have from strongly agree to strongly disagree and we that feedback is going to be tallied up for all the different sides of town that we're going to and we're going to share this information with the rest of our council colleagues again councilman Trevino and myself share record rich park it is in district two the most of the areas where the changes are being proposed and again we're here to listen please don't think that we're doing this as a waste of time we're not going to take this information that is broadcast for the entire world to see and ignore it that is not how we operate with the city of san Antonio that's not how operate as a council person and i do appreciate everything that we've heard not just at this conversation but in previous emails and previous conversations and whenever you see me on the street when people bring this instance up so again i'll be here as well afterwards i don't want to take up too much of your time i know that you have families to get back to but i do thank you again for coming out and sharing how you feel about the park your passion for the park is it shines through with many of your comments and a lot of those memories that you had i have as well because i i remember the park the same way we very much like to hear when you're going to begin the community input planning meetings well again this potential work was scheduled to be done in phases potentially not all of it potential some of it depending on what went through the bond committees so the bond process starts in november most likely this would happen before November so we do not want to pay for something that we have not yet designed there's no way to pay for it without if you if the project even moves forward to a bond process in its current state which is probably highly unlikely based on the feedback that we've gotten then you vote no and you won't be paying for it and if the entire city will probably vote no there's no reason for us to put out a package that would damage all of the other potential bond packages you understand so we want the bond to pass we want to make investments in our city we need streets sidewalks drainage facilities like libraries and senior centers in all parts of town and to let one project move forward that could potentially damage or stop those other projects from happening is not going to happen does that make sense to you it does in a sense of austin constantly works with their communities asks them what do you want us to do we do not yet have that process here and we better hurry and get that process that's why i think this is a part of that process and again we're we're coming into our own and how we're doing it but i think this is us asking you what what you want and again we're asking for your feedback back on those walls we ask for your feedback on this microphone and we're saving and sharing your feedback so if you go to now cast that say you'll be able to see this for all of eternity at least as long as the internet exists so i don't think that there's any problem with the timing's a little off i do agree we we should have asked earlier and make mistakes as long as we admit to them and make a change as quickly as possible so again this is still plenty of time before november before we even start looking because the final bond packages start in november they don't end in november so then the final packages are approved by council in january more or less january and then we start selling them to the public for the main election of 2017 so we're almost a year out from the actual process so this is still fairly early and again no ground has been broken nothing has occurred that can that can't be turned back um we're these are just drawings on this paper i was asked a year ago to attend a meeting so i mean it's been there there have been meetings last july there have been meetings but i think that i i because i went to two meetings as well i was at tri-point i was at another meeting but again i don't think the way that it was publicized is and it's not just this program it's a lot of city programs if you look at stand-up essay or not stand-up essay speak up essay 10,000 or 15,000 out of two million people i don't think that's acceptable to move forward with any kind of planning but what does it take to get our people out too it takes almost a fear this is like a spurious scenario we're going to take the park away so you come out but you guys should already be out of the meetings because the meetings did happen we didn't hide the meetings they're at public places places being larger than this one but because that fear factor came in we got more people out it's like the Donald Trump thing you know people are now registering to vote that have never registered because they're scared that this person's going to potentially be the president of our country it shouldn't have to come to that i mean we want more engaged citizens and hopefully we can get more engaged citizens out of out of this progress well i think it's different because you can do that with the atmosphere park you guys i was not a council person during that process i cannot the city council kept that on the rat so we wouldn't have a election uh so i'm feeling that's what y'all trying to do here with practically the state legislation we're all asking for input but it seems like your mind's already made up yep so we can give you all the i attended that meeting a year ago in july and i was really blown away by the 30 to 40 different ideas that people came up and said i want to see this in my park i don't want you to take away cars in the park i want you to make sure the feral cat coalition is taking care of in the park so many people came and spoke up for positive things that they wanted to see and what they didn't want taken away and their their family like and how important it was and that was a year ago they went through they made themselves available you could email you could call you could talk to them i called jim gray he was wonderful at you know answering my questions if i had any and they presented it i believe around april kind of you know a culmination and i really thought then well they really heard a lot of those different opinions and people tried to address those i don't think you're getting some of the nitty-gritty in in this presentation because i know there was a plan for a pecan grove um in in the bigger thing that i saw but i was so inspired by that that i joined the conservancy because i i work by the park every day and so after the easter camping which i love that that's a tradition you know sometimes i feel i'm not a real person because i didn't grow up here but i love the park and i love those traditions and and seeing that the conservancy takes the time to like go out monday and pick up trash and doing things you know they still respect it but they want to to still take care of the park so i feel a little bit like there was a little bit of a bad rap tonight with some of the things that went on i do appreciate again everyone's passion about the subject obviously this is not going to be the last conversation that we have on the topic and i look forward to meeting with my constituents and constituents from all over the city because again the majority of the area of the park that uh the master plan deals with his industry too so i look forward to talking to all of you about it