 Thank you, everybody, for being here. Crazy and exciting week coming up. Our first draft here together as a staff. I want to start off by thanking our leadership, thanking Coach Vrable, Chad Brinker, Ryan Cowden, John Salgie, and all of our area scouts. The process has been great. We've been very collaborative. We spent a lot, a lot of time together, probably too much time together at this point. But it was truly a process in where myself coming from San Fran, Chad coming from Green Bay, just implementing all the different things that we've learned that we find productive in with what we already do here allows us to come together and make this a good process. So just wanted to say that to start. And then my only other request for today is for us all to have fun. Everybody looks so tight. Let's lighten up, man, and have some fun today. Ran, when it came to just the last few months and looking at that first round pick that you guys have, what is the collaboration process in that when you know there's so many different ways you could go? It's putting all of our minds together and figuring out what all those scenarios are. Again, this is Chad and I, our first time of really being here together. And it's our first time being together, period. So again, it's figuring out what all the scenarios are, where we're going to come in in those scenarios, how we factor in, and just looking at our board and how we can come away ultimately with a really good football player. How would you say it may be hard to compare, I guess, the past years, but as far as calls you're getting from people interested in your pick, calls you're making as far as interested in moving up or back, or what's that been like? I think it's just everybody being nosy, posturing from our side and other sides about, hey, I'm thinking about moving. And just everybody's trying to figure out what everyone's doing and where you can possibly go and where you can possibly add. But again, whether those scenarios truly come into shape, who knows, we're probably air on the side of saying no. But I think, again, it's everybody calling everybody with all these potential possibilities. But I think Ballard said it earlier, something to the effect of nobody knows what anybody's doing. And I think that's really a lot of what it is. And you made the big trade for Trey Lance. And knowing that life does go on and can't be successful without all those picks to get your guy. Yeah, and again, I would always go back to the coaching staff we had in San Francisco and the area scouts we had and the collaborative process that they had together, working to help us hit on those later rounds in college free agency. We've implemented the same thing here. Our coaches and our area scouts have been locked in their respective offices these last two weeks, fine-tuning that, and I guess what we call the bottom of the board and the backboard. So those guys have been working really diligently to find those players that allow us to supplement the back end of the roster. At pick level, I would imagine, you don't expect to be there another time. So having a pick like this, how much does that weigh into the whole process of possibly getting a franchise quarterback? Right, so to your point, you'd rather be picking at 32 every year. You'd rather be at least 31, 32 every year. And for this organization to be picking at 11 with the success that they've had here, it's kind of unprecedented. So ultimately picking at how you wanna be able to come away with what we would call a blue player, a player that's gonna come in and contribute to you immediately. So with the hopes of never having to pick up this high again. How do you predict this at the quarterback position now with a veteran in Ryan, knowing he's got just one year left on his contract versus trying to find the next guy, whether it be Malik or Draftik? I think with Ryan and his respective position, I think it's the same thing can be said for every position. It's our job to do diligence at every position every year to look to improve it. So it's not an indictment on Ryan or anybody else on this roster. We have to evaluate everyone and know where we can make ourselves better and give ourselves the best option to put the best 53 on the field. If that's the new arrival, I mean, three days for the draft, what do you think this team's biggest needs are right now? Good football players. We're always just looking to add good football players, guys that bring versatility, explosiveness to our team, guys that can score with the football and guys that could take the football away. However that comes, that's what we've been tasked to do. So I don't think it's going into it with one specific area of need per se. We just need to continue to add quality players and people to our ball club. Ryan, if your coach was running back in San Francisco, you were part of Drafted Sermon in the third round and then Mitchell turned out to be the guy you leaned on harder, a sixth round pick. Last year, Davis Price in the third round and Mason got more work as an undrafted. What does that tell you maybe about the value of running backs in the draft and how the production of what you get out there might not match up with the way you stack them? So Paul is a former running backer. I'm not gonna allow you to bludgeon our position and devalue us. So we're not gonna let that happen. But it just says it is, you can find value all throughout the draft and there's many ways to find them. And to your point, we had success hitting on guys early. We had success hitting on guys late. A lot of that was the type of people those players were. They came in, they worked hard and they were ready when the opportunity came. So I know everyone likes to kill and crush the running back position, but as a former running back, I can't allow people to do that. So this is my first experience with the S2. So I'm still learning it myself. So there's still a space for me to grow. I know we use it and we're working through it. We met with them last week. So I can get a better understanding of how to use it as a part of our analytical component to evaluate a player, but myself I'm still learning. It's my first experience with it. So I've only really been diving into it over the last month or so. Do you expect me to? Well, it's not. I mean, S2 doesn't just evaluate quarterbacks. It's every player. So again, it's a part of the analytic piece. It's not the end-all, be-all, but it's just another way for us to use and evaluate players and whatever the test scores are, they are what they are and it makes us go back and do homework whether one way or the other. You have all the quarterbacks last year and then you saw in San Francisco how he processed the game as a rookie. Again, I'm hearing that Brock is, it doesn't surprise me, but I think more than anything, you have to know the human that Brock is, right? Like Brock knew that he wasn't the tallest, the fastest or had the strongest arm, but I legitimately saw this kid prepare every game. You hear it all the time. You hear a guy say, I'm preparing as if I'm gonna be the starter, right? I saw him do that. His seat was right across the row from mine. So whether he was inactive or active on our flights to away games, he put in the work. So I don't know if the S2 picks that up, but I saw the work and the type of human he was that I think supersedes any type of cognitive testing. If you're gonna trade for a veteran, how big an element of it is, as you consider that, the fact that you might have to fit in a $10.5 million base salary, a $27 million base salary, a $13.6 million base salary. I'm laughing because Paul and I, we went through this at the combine. Was it no, it was a combine of owner's meetings. I think it was owner meetings. So we have financial flexibility to make moves if we need to. How about if you're trying to deal with a guy that has base salaries like that? Of specifically $10.5 million. 10 for five, 27, 13.6. Can you give me the stats for that hypothetical player from last year? Well, those are the three guys that have big numbers that are. I'll say it this way, right? So if you're trading a player, no matter what their salary is, it's really up to the team that's trading for them and their comfort level, right? Because if you're trading them, you're trading them as is. So I don't think that would fall on us as to the comfort level of the contract. It would fall on the team that's trading for them. Not traditionally go down in a way where you get permission for somebody to negotiate where they could get a number into a manageable situation before you pull a trigger? Again, for us traditionally, if you're trading a player and the player is aware that the trade is going down and you give them the permission to talk, and from there, you let them work on their piece of the deal as long as we have our agreement in place. From a cap standpoint, the ramifications of that, how much notice would need to be go into making something like that happen? Because if you're on the clock and somebody calls and says, we'll take player X off your hands and all, I would think that the contract would have to be worked out in advance. Yeah, well, for us, the job that Vin and Chad do, again, we've been working through every scenario possible. Adam and Matt and our analytics team have done a really good job. They just built out a basically like a salary cap depth chart. So we're able to just, it's a simple click and add and then we have contract addition and deductions. So it wouldn't be that hard of something to work through with any player contract because we have the component built so that we'll know what those salary cap ramifications are. I have a question before that, multiple guys from different organizations all come together to do this first draft. What sort of ideas have you heard from other people that either you haven't thought about before or just a better way of improving how you wanna do things? I think the biggest thing, because in San Francisco, we have such great leadership with the guys at the top. But one of the things that we're doing here is we're making it a really more inclusive situation where we get to hear our coach's voice, where we have a separate meeting just for the coaches to kind of speak their piece on the players. And then we also have a separate meeting for the Scouts and everybody's in the room with each other. So we get to hear how coaches see players. You get to hear how Scouts see players. And I think making it more collaborative gives people more ownership into the players that we're bringing in. As you go through the process, like meeting with these quarterbacks and things like that, like how do you go about evaluating and picking up things that you may not have seen when you watch their film? I think with the quarterback position, it's one of those that you really need to get in front of them and get a fill for them. Hence why I was at the pro-days. I went to, as a part of my job, I went to Kentucky this year. I went to Ohio State this year, but I didn't get to get in the Bama. I didn't get to get in the Florida. So being there, being able to see those guys up close and personal. Again, I think I said it somewhere before. At the combine for juniors, that's your first exposure to them. That's an uncomfortable environment. For the seniors, your first exposure is at an all-star game, uncomfortable environment. I think it's key to see them in their environment that they've spent the last three, four, and five years in. Get to see them in their conference zone. Get to see them with their teammates and to see how people interact. So I think that's where you really get to see from quarterbacks like their leadership style and what they could bring to your organization. And then when you're watching the film, you take a guy like Levis who has 23 interceptions over the last two years. Like how do you go about, okay, what's the reason for this? How did that happen? Like how do you weigh in factors with those stuff? Those things, you have to have an understanding of what they're trying to do offensively. That could have been a million things that could have happened. It could have led to those turnovers. You don't want to always charge that step to one person with said turnover. However, you just, you got to work through it. And then when you get your hands on the player, like, hey, let's talk through these situations and what happened here and here, they're explanation for it. Just bring out the tight end group, particularly the inline gang of this group. Of this draft class. I think there's some value there. You know, tight end position is one of those ever-evolving positions, right? So more guys that are more athletic, these converted wide receivers that are playing it more. So the guys that, most guys, because of the spread, offenses haven't been charged with blocking. So for us, we just want to see want-to. You know, as long as you show the want-to and the willingness with our coaching staff, we feel like we can make you into a better blocker as long as you have that willingness and the want-to. How do people have talked about over the years of the draft? You don't draft somebody that doesn't fit what you do. You don't draft a zone corner if you're a man team, things like that. But with the quarterback position, everything has changed so much in the college game. Do you have to evaluate these guys differently, maybe coming out now than you did 10 years ago when most guys were pocket passers? Yeah, I don't know if it's evaluated them differently. You just have to see what concepts carry over, you know, to what you do. And then, again, once you get them in front of you, now you can talk concept-wise and see what they know from a processing standpoint. You have to understand that, you know, most of these offenses nowadays, it just allows, in college, it allows for guys to play quicker and sooner, right? So you condense some of the verbiage and wording. And some of these guys are operating off of, you know, the signs and the boards and have never really operated in a huddle, so you know they're gonna be growth, you know, in those places. But more so, you just look for the carryover in terms of schematics and concepts and see how they process that. If they can handle that and, you know, they have their attributes that makes them good quarterbacks and it should be fine. Could you use all 30 of your pre-drive visits and what do you hope to accomplish in those? I mean, I guess everyone's different. Some of them, maybe you get more informational guys or some of them are rolling guys out or some of them are having to do with medical or what kind of is the big picture of bringing a guy in? I think the big picture of bringing a guy in is just, again, getting your hands on them. The more exposures you can get to the player, you know, figure out. Again, these guys are not playing football anymore. Again, until they get to this level, so the tape is the tape, you know, and you'll hear me say it all the time, I'd rather get to know the person. I can go sit and watch the tape the next six hours and figure that part out. But we need to make sure that we're getting the right people in here and in this building and in this community. So part of it is learning the people. And then for those non-combine guys who you haven't seen, it's getting the medical, you know, figuring that part out and making sure that we have hands on them so we can, you know, better surround them. What's been the toughest part to gauge with the quarterback position and your experience over the years? That's a really good question. The toughest part to gauge is really more so the carryover from, you know, schematics, what they know. And, you know, again, this is all predictive. You know, we're all, you know, taking a shot is playing the lottery and hoping that you win and that you hit on someone. You know, quarterbacks should generally come in a little wired different, you know, and I think on some level, whatever, you know, as long as they're willing to put in the work, you know, and they work extremely hard and they have some leadership qualities, yet everybody may not end up being a Hall of Fame quarterback, but I think there's some level of success that could be had at the position. No, I think as long as you know, you know, what those concepts are and what their reads are, I think it gives you a little more clarity as to where you may say, oh, he didn't run the route, you know, but if you have a better idea of why that was done, then I think it gives you a different view to see it. How do you balance the value of a player against a guy at a position of need, especially early in the draft when, as you said, you need a blue guy who's gonna have to come in and have a high impact on it? I think that's, again, that's a good question. I think in most cases, obviously you wanna take care of a need, you know, and you hope that the best player available is at a position of need, but you also don't wanna reach, you know, for a guy. You have to trust your board. You have to not only have them stack right vertically, but you have to have them stack right horizontally, and you just have to trust the process and just know that, understand that, hey, this player here is available, but then you know a little bit further down, you can get a, you know, an equal player that you don't have to necessarily reach for. Then we have to necessarily simulate that frenzy, but is there anything you're doing heading into your first draft to get accustomed to what that might be like, having to field all the calls and deal with everything draft night? I got away this weekend. Went and visited my dad down in Arkansas and, you know, saw some family and didn't have to think about football, so I can have a clear mind, you know, heading into this week. And, you know, more than anything, it's trusting the process. Like I just said, we have really good people here who've done a ton of work. You know, I don't have all the answers. I don't expect to have all the answers, so just being able to trust our staff and trust the way that we've done things and I think once we do that, we'll be fine. You know, I've never done this before. Like I said, I've leaned on, you know, resources, Koisia Dolfo-Menson, Martin Mayhew and John Lynch and, you know, John Schneider and guys that I've, you know, built relationships with throughout the years and, you know, lean on those guys for helping, for advice on how to navigate this first one, but, you know, more than anything, just trusting, you know, my training and trusting the guys that we have around us. I don't want to say that there's been a difficult, you know, part of the process. It's just, it's all been new and just trying to embrace it all and, you know, taking in, you know, you only get to have a first draft one time, you know. So just trying to take it in and, you know, not be too hard on myself and some of the best advice I got when I got the job was Get Sleep. You know, and that was from Andrew Berry. He was like, you have time to do it all. So that was the biggest thing I always kept in mind and like, hey, I'm going to get some sleep. And there were a couple of sleepless nights. There was a night last week I woke up at 3.43 in the morning, like who the hell's going to be there at 11, you know. And then, you know, just working through that in my head and, you know, I know Chad Brinker probably puts his silent notifications on because if I get up in the middle of the night, you know, I might, you know, fire off a couple of texts, you know, to him, just stuff that's on my mind. And it's, we actually just moved into the same apartment building. So I told him the rest of this week, he's in trouble. So we're going to have, you know, two or three o'clock in the morning meetings if I wake up in time. How come Mike didn't join you or did you tell him he couldn't? No, I told Mike he couldn't because I didn't want you and him arguing. Now, you know, we got players in, coaching staffs in and, you know, Mike and I, again, we talk every day, talk a lot. And so it wasn't a real need for him, you know, to be here. You mentioned staff. You talk about the, you know, quality of a person off the field and getting to know a person like that. So what's your evaluation process of a guy that maybe coming into the draft has some issues off the field but could be a very high caliber guy? Like would you risk that type of a situation or is it just getting to know them in your own opinion? I'll say something that Mike says all the time, you know, that good people make mistakes. And I think, you know, if it's, you know, and good people might make two mistakes. You know, I think, again, it's feeling like is this a good person and can the person own up to that mistake and work to fix it, you know, and how things have been since said mistake happened. You know, at the end of the day, you want to have good people. You know, when you think about it, I lean on some advice I got from a friend, James Jones and the, for the Phoenix Suns and he has a rule that's called a 21-3 rule, right? So in the NBA, you only get them in their building for three hours a day and the other 21, they're, you know, they're people. So you're an actual person longer than you are a player because we all see them as players 24 hours a day. You know, so they spend more time in the community and away from this building as people, you know, than they do in this building. I think you tend to get them on their best behavior here. You know, and so we want to make sure that we're putting productive citizens out in the community that can, you know, not only add something to our building but to the community as well. Oh, all the time. You know, I get everything from who to pick, who to trade back to, who to trade, you know, who not to trade, you know, so. Oh, without question, it's a question about Derek. You know, I've had, you know, I've had a, I was at an event and I was taking a picture and, you know, I have my arm around the lady and take a picture and she leans in, you better not trade, Derek. And she scared the hell out of me because it came from like a motherly authoritative place. And I was just like, yes ma'am, you know, I don't say anything. I just smile and kind of nod and hope that somebody else comes in and saves me. You know. You said you received calls about Derek? No, no, I mean, there's things I want to say that I want because I got Robbie standing to my left. You know, I mean, it is what it is. I, you know, it's a part of the job. You know, I know people have their job to do to speculate and, you know, put things out and hope that it stick and hope that they're right. But I'll just lean on it this way because I've said it before, we won't do business in public. We haven't, you know, you lean to, we were trading Jeffrey Simmons, you know, we were doing all these things in the entire time of us trading Jeffrey Simmons, we were working on a deal, you know, and then we got the deal done and every, all of that talk went away, you know. So I always lean on taking care of the player, taking care of their families. I don't think it's fair to discuss, you know, publicly because not only do the players have to deal with it, but they got to receive these calls from their family members about what's going on in their personal life and in their career. And, you know, if I asked any of you in the crowd right now, like, what's your contract status? So are you gonna be back with your publication next year? You're not gonna wanna have that conversation with me, you know, so I try to protect the guys as much as I can. And, you know, I think we've been transparent, you know, about, you know, things that have come up and, you know, you know, even down to KB, you know, when that report came out that he asked to be released or traded, whatever it was, and that simply wasn't true. And yes, we did ask him, you know, for a pay cut. That was, that was correct, you know. But at the same time, you know, all our dealings are with the players, and our players know where we stand with them. And so it's not a need to kind of touch on it. And if there's something that comes up, you know, we'll address it as it comes, but I don't feel the need to kind of discuss, you know, their personal business publicly. With the receiver position, like, do you look at it as being top heavy or do you feel like you could get a quality player all the way through day three and even, you know, undrafted free agent? You know, that's value everywhere, you know, in this draft, you know, one thing, you know, you look at it now in college football, it's a lot of talented receivers, right? Because it's a passing game, you know, everyone's spread. And so most teams play with four or five receivers, you know, at a time. So there's value, you know, from the top all the way down. How is this draft weighted at receiver? Are there more big physical guys or more Jack Rabbits? I think there's a variety, you know, you have what you're looking for, you know. You know, I don't want to name players specifically, but you can imagine there are the big taller guys that can go up and get the ball there, the bigger physical guys, you have your slot guys that can win, that can create separation laterally and then you have your Jack Rabbits that can, you know, align anywhere, do a bunch of different things and get the ball in their hands and make plays. So it's a variety all the way throughout. Will you play with four or five at a time? You gotta ask Tim that question. Does that make it any easier for you when the bullets start to fire on Thursday night as to which way you want to go or are you still in sort of watching what happens in front of you play out each time? No, you just gotta watch it and, you know, like I said, we're gonna surround it. We've been doing the work, been doing the research on where teams ahead of us could go potentially and where teams below us within range, you know, can go as well as teams who may look to trade above us, you know, expecting us to do something. So you have to do that part of the research and so when it's, when you're on the clock, you know, you're comfortable and again, the way the board stack, vertical then horizontal, you just gotta trust it, you know, and trust how you have your board stacked and, you know, not try to overthink it, you know, and reach, you know. So, you know, we're gonna lean towards that and just trust our board and trust our process. Do you have a feeling at this point or does things set? I mean, there might be a couple of minor, you know, tweaks here and there as we finish gathering, you know, the rest of the information. But, you know, at this point, you know, you pick a day, even when I was, you know, just a director of pro or director player personnel where you have to just tune out the noise for the rest of the week to stay out of the rumors and just trust your information and trust what you know. So there will be minor tweaks but there won't be any big swings. You're on the personal side of these guys and the rumors that come out about their contracts and it seems like it's been very persistent with rumors about Ryan, including yesterday on Sports Center. Can you make it easier on the player in this case on Ryan to shut it down and say, you know, like, Ryan will be the quarterback this year? So just to let you guys in, Ryan and I had a conversation back in February that was between Ryan and I and Ryan in our organization. So Ryan knows where he stands with us and that's really all that matters to me. You had Devo Samuel in South Carolina or San Francisco, excuse me. Are there any guys without name names in this draft that you feel like might be a guy that you could get that kind of have the same skill set or similar that could come here and potentially do what he does in various positions? Yeah, there are a couple of guys, you know, in this draft, whether it's at the receiver position or the running back position. You know, I'm sure if Devo heard this, he would be mad about me referring to him as a running back, but I like he coined a phrase called wideback, you know, is what he likes to call himself. So there are players in this draft that can do, you know, similar things to him that are at the running back position as well as the receiver position. Ryan, the strength of this draft at each position? You know, the wide receiver class is, you know, deep. The quarterback class, you know, is deep as well. You know, if we're leaning on, I think you said, you know, sports center, if we're leaning on them, you know, four guys should go, you know, in the top, in top 10 and another guy later. And then also offensive line, you know, is a pretty deep draft in terms of just value. You have the first round grades on your board that you can comfortably trade back half a dozen spots or so? So you're trying to get me set up, you know. We're comfortable with where our board is, you know, don't wanna tip too much, you know, to the people above and below, but we're comfortable that wherever we're picking, we're gonna get a player that we like. Awesome question. You talked about doing research on the 10 teams ahead. How much of that is what you were calling being nosy? How much of that is guessing? Just how do you go about doing that? Well, it's all guessing because we don't work for them, you know. We're not, you know, we don't have an intimate knowledge of what they truly wanna do. You know, it's really a speculation of it all, but that's why we start being nosy, you know, and making a cause and everybody expected. I won't say who the GM is, but every time my phone rings from him, I'm like, oh, this is all intel, you know, and he butters you up with the how you're doing and how's everything going? It's your first one. And then it's like a little slip of a question in there, and then I just avoid it, you know. But it's a part of doing the job, you know, and not only is it myself, but it's our pro staff, you know, Brian Gardner and Kevin Turks and Brandon Taylor and Rob, all those guys, you know, they put together a really good team needs book that, you know, myself being a former pro guy, like I used to have to put the book together, you know, so it was good to have that with me this weekend before I left and have that as some reading material. So I feel prepared, you know, and knowing what those other teams may need, but knowing what other teams may need versus what's available to them when they pick are two different things. For a visit, but you did bring in Anthony Richardson, Hinden Hooker and Will Levis. Do you feel like you got to know, you talked about how important the personality was in the quarterback, that you've got to know CJ Stroud well enough to have that evaluation on you? Yeah, Mike and Tim spent time with him, you know, in Columbus, you know, at the pro day and they feel, you know, good about, excuse me, they feel good about, you know, him as a person. And then the other guys, you know, I think we have a really cool process when we come in and offer our 30 visits, which I won't say publicly because I don't want anybody else to steal our process, but I feel like we truly get to know, you know, some of these kids, you have some of the kids that come in with, you know, what you have gotten just through your intel. And I feel like some guys, you see a totally different person. Now again, it's a job interview, everybody's best faces on, but I feel like when we've sat down with these kids, you get the genuine person of who they really are. And so, you know, that I feel is what makes our process really cool when we bring guys in for the top 30. I think Dell's a guy who obviously has some side motivations when you're analyzing that, how do you make that leap of faith or decide that that's going to cut a guy off? Well, I mean, Tank's a really good football player and I get to, you know, the question about the size, but I like to say Tank's been that size for a long time and he's been productive, you know, at that size. So the size is only a problem for us because clearly it's not a problem for him, you know, because he's still made, you know, plays throughout his time, you know, at the University of Houston against guys that are playing in this league. What was your, I know you didn't get drafted, but I was hoping you could kind of talk about your draft. You teased him. Draft weekend experience, and then maybe, you know, guys, you don't get drafted, maybe what do you tell them about the process? You hurt my heart, you know. I have my six-year-old, he all the time says, oh, daddy, you got drafted to the Colts. And I'm like, yeah, I did, you know. No, I just tell guys, you know, having gone through that position and, you know, knowing how I felt after the draft at that time that I should have been drafted. Now, doing the job I do now, I shouldn't have been drafted. So they were right. However, you know, you just let guys know that it's been my experience in San Francisco and my experience here that we don't care how you get here. You're here and you earned it out on the grass so you have an opportunity to make the team. And so as long as guys take that approach and use that to fire them, how to fire them up inside, then I think there's still a way for you to make a name for yourself in this league. But that did hurt a little bit, Jim. It sounds like that. I'll read the big picture, like, basically, if the opportunity presents itself, maybe you guys get a quarterback that even this next season looks a little different than if you don't and you're just trying to build around Ryan and Derek and just be as good as possible next year, if that question makes sense. You kind of spork in the road here in terms of a little bit of a reset. Do you take a quarterback or just going for it next year, I guess, if you don't? You got to say that one more time. You took me in three different ways, so I had to one more time. Do you look at this like there's kind of two ways here. You take your quarterback and possibly you're resetting a little bit, you're probably going to sacrifice some picks. You may have the quarterback sit. You may have to step back a little bit with the new quarterback versus if you don't and you stick with the veterans that you're going to draft and just be as good as possible next season, is that better? Yeah. I mean, again, all things are on the table. You don't know how this draft is going to go. Again, it's our job every year to look to improve this roster. And it's not a year-to-year thing. We have to see this thing from a macro level and prepare for the future. That's all a part of it. That's what you do when you're constructing contracts. You're not just looking to get a guy signed for this year. You're thinking about future ramifications of the contract and the percentage of the cap that it's going to charge and all those things. So we're going to be smart about whatever move we make that's going to set us up not only now, but for the future as well. How does that weigh in for a guy like Jackson Smith and Jigba? He was really productive, but then he had that injury. Knowing the history over the last two years his team has had with injuries, how do you weigh that up? No, I mean, it's not only him, but it's every player that you get your hands on in terms of their injury history. You have to trust Todd and those guys and our doctors. We had our medical meeting last week. It's one thing if it's been a consistent injury that's kind of hampered the player's performance over the last three, four, five, six years now. But if it's a one-off and we've seen the player move around since then and our medical team gives us a thumbs up, then we'll be more apt to make the move as opposed to a person that has a consistent medical history probably be a little bit more apprehensive unless we get some good information. Since the last time we talked to you, Wesco, Neiman, and Moore have all been signed. Can you give us a Cliff's Notes version on those three guys? I mean, all three guys bring veteran presence. Chris is an explosive receiver that has good speed and had a really good year last year. Trayvon is a blocker that plays a physical brand of football. And then Neiman is a guy that has played a lot of football on defense and has played a lot of football on special teams. So just another good, depth piece to add to come in and create some competition, not only in the inside linebacker room, but in the special team room as well. Five conversations have to be with other teams regarding moving up from 11, moving back from 11, because like you said, so much of it is reactionary to what happens in front of you behind you and what other teams are doing. So that draft night, as fast as things are moving, you're prepared to react. Yeah, I think, again, if a team has serious interests, one way or the other, they'll let it be known. And you can have more pointed conversations versus just the standard, hey, you're looking to move up. You're looking to move down. And now you know that's the intel question. But I think coming into Thursday, you will know the teams that are serious, that may want to come up to 11, or come down to 11. You'll have more of a serious inclination of who they are. And you'll be more prepared to have pointed conversations heading into the draft night. And as you got to meet Will Levis, did you see the mayonnaise going to the coffee? And was that enough to get him off the draft board? I did not. And I'm thankful that I didn't, you know. Well, I did see the video. I guess it was a TikTok, where it showed him doing it. That was strange to say the least. I don't drink coffee. So I don't like to taste the coffee. So I can't imagine how it tastes with mayonnaise in it. That conversation you said you had with Ryan, the way you're comfortable with, he knows what you know and what, have you had that conversation with KB too? Yes, I've talked to KB maybe two and a half weeks ago, whenever it was, been in constant contact with his rep. So again, our conversations will be with those guys. We've had talks. And so it'll never be a situation where, you know, I just charged them to just look at whatever comes out publicly, you know. If it doesn't, if it's not a direct quote from me, Mike, Amy, or anybody, then nine times out of 10, it's not real. So how about Derek, who we know isn't necessarily in town as much because he works out elsewhere? Yeah, I mean, we've talked. I think I talked to Derek maybe a month and a half ago. I've talked to Todd, you know, his agent, but you know, Derek not being here, and I don't think it bothers anybody. I mean, you see the way that guy looks. You know, you know, he puts in the work and he's going to take care of his body and be ready to go, so have no reservations about him being here. 343, what'd you tell yourself when you asked who the hell's going to be there at 11? Told myself to take my ass back to sleep. I don't know what you're going to talk about. Kind of watch the draft and kind of, you know, do the picture yourself. What are the next couple of weeks, a couple of days going to be like and what do you anticipate it's going to feel like maybe when you're on the clock going Thursday night? I've got a bunch of texts today in terms of, you know, am I excited yet? And usually I'm the one, if I know something big is coming up, I'm asking my wife, hey, are you excited? And she's like, don't talk to me about it until it's actually happening. And I think through osmosis, it's kind of rubbed off on me right now. So I'm just trying to really collect a final bit of information and then just shut my brain off, you know, for the next couple of days until we get on the clock, you know, and so I'm not clouded and trying to hear these final rumors and being nosy. But I think once we get on the clock, I think there'll be some nerves, you know, watching how this whole thing shakes out. And, but, you know, at that point, it's just like a game once the ball is kicked off and you've got your first hit, then now it's time to go. Thank you.