 Hello and welcome back to SPM Buzz. My name is Shiko Gitao. We are right here with the one and only Julie, the traveller, Mambo Vepi. Pwa. Selama. Kabisa. You're looking amazing. Thank you. But I'm sad. I understand. Ya. No, of course he is sadness. It's from the talks that are there online. First of all, what you state right now. Nende, like has it affected you? First time it did affect me. I feel stronger and I have an amazing support system. So it makes it easier. But I keep praying for people, especially when you want to say to have a Jew. I'm like, God just forgive them. Even before the interview. Like I release it from my heart. How do you read na na msa meha tu? Because she doesn't know what she's saying. May God just forgive her. May God have mercy on her. That's all I can say. Ya, and of course probably if you're new. Like how well everything is happening. So we all know some toilet and red na broke up. And unfortunately red na. Pa li woku anyi mitenda kwainda kusimakomba. Julie could be in the mix or rather in the course of their break up with some toilet. First of all, before having interacted with the red na. Yes. I have before. Yes, I have interacted. Not so much in time. Mostly maybe I didn't see much. Yes. Labda bada ya kwaongi na kusimamambu kama haio. Have you tried reaching out to her? No. And I feel I get reached out to me first. Siji kama akon na watua na pushse maivi fanyaivi. It's so bad. It's sad. It's just it's bad. Whoever is pushing you and advising you is advising you very wrong. So you have judged me wrongly. And you've made the rest to come and judged me also. But it's not right. Just now I forgive you and anyone who has associated with that. And anybody who is judging me wrongly me, I have no issue with you. Like I remember set free. Maybe just to make it clear. Inesimekana when everything was happening, when a red na and a sambwa, or rather when the breakup came up, you were not around. You were not around. I was not even in the country when they broke up. You think the breakup happened jana or juzy because they came and announced, Hey guys, have you broken up or whatever? No. People don't work like that. Especially people with family, people with kids. They don't work up but to make a breakup, layo, keshot na announce. No. So even when they broke up, I was not even in the country. When they broke up, we were not even talking with him because we make us like six months without talking to some. So the breakup, their own issues and breaking up happened when I was not even in the picture, when me even and them were not seeing eye to eye. I wasn't in the picture. Red na, why don't you just tell people the truth and stop looking for sympathizers to just be on you? Because at the end of the day, reality hits, wuki yanda ku lala, kiyo mejifunika, kwa nyumba, pekiako. You truly, truly believe what you did was right and yet you know it's very wrong. You know, this is life. And are you probably ready to meet her and talk about his event? I've always been ready. I miss the issue now. And funny enough, we had that big fallout when we talked for the first time. We were to meet because I remember some saying I was planning a proposal to propose. And this was in the middest of people saying we're in a relationship. And then funny enough, I think the proposal never happened and we had that fallout with them. But red na hizama na hizama li kuwara mpigia and we were loudspeaker. Heavy. Like, kuna time, I think I don't know what to think. Kuna time, because first round people, we told people we were working on work, we were on work business. Some will tell me, you see, to me do. To me directly, red na. You know na? Because it was genuinely business. I can show you a statement here, money coming directly from my number to hers. Mmm. And that's why maybe at first I knew I was in a relationship with red na hizama na hizama. We were shooting, we were talking about a job. She knew what she was saying. No na? So I don't know whether Kenyans want me to come and confirm or later I will receive. So the second round, do we many shock? Kusimam the reason they broke up or insinuating the same. We say we can break up, we can see in your lives. It's like it's crazy. Before, does this mean maybe before, after you guys were doing business and things like that? Ya, so tumetoka mombasa. One of the, nili itishwa e interviewe and I did go and do the interview. See kusimam anything bad but the title of the, that whatever, I think ili kwa clickbait, ali kwa makea taitombaya. So some call miahanyam. Actually I think ili kwa nga text, bona matua neka izoma taito. Miimi, in my own anger, mikam sho, nimefanya interviewe. Venyutanda kuni ni, mii intafanya intapata tulipos na a certain title. So that's the beginning of our fallout. Ni kwa mbiata fadali. Vitu zingine, hasini usu. I've done the interview, I was irrespectful. Monyameka damne na izoma taito niye. So na tukako sananga bibayasana from that time and I have never spoken to them again. So this means even after this whole drama that is happening on a new haven talked to some? No, we now late and kwa like Dubai. Like after six months even when I was in Dubai that's when we started talking. And by that time matter things I think they were trying to survey their own relationship. I don't want to talk so much about them. They can't speak on themself but information niko kwa inje. They were trying to solve. No, and up to now they're still solving. They can still solve. It's only that this time media like oh we broken up. But yeah, so I wasn't even in the country even in the picture we were not even talking when when they're having their own issues back and forth. And now the issue that has come up is why was valentine's day ali kwa na mimi. We did not wake up kwa say my valentine's day we are going no no it just happened mi na travel kama saizuna tokapa I'm going to Naivasha. And yeah we could be like let's go we go. And we were so many people there we don't sleep in the same room. Anyone who has traveled with me because it's not the first time mi me travel na kuru they know everyone sleeps in their own room who have their own privacy like so I know if it's about boundaries I know boundaries if it's about limits I know my limits I'm not going there we are sleeping in the same room enjoy no and people don't know kus me de na kufid kenyo una ta ha kuskia reality of things on the ground we have serious boundaries and we respect each other na maliri de respect ta hija pe anwa we just detengas no? yeah What world would you have to some toilet right now as we wind up? mi na zama mambia kus right now una una sasa he is not okay kus first of everything that is going on accusations the wife looking for sympathizers and all that wana kujawa na mamb to see first is not okay but mi na zama mambia evi if you can kus maile mefikani kama wame fikisha nasidiyu api but if possible sit down muongi nam solve vitu zenyo and you are still my friend even atadukai orana once in two years or three times in ten years am atuskai orana tena you are my friend and that's how it is and as of now mi si na shidanae those people would think nam taka mi sim tak he is my friend he is like a brother to me honestly he is like my brother to me you understand like nivana tu haizi open up sana nambia yo this and this but nimutu ana open up to a certain level kus ananyaona in that perspective I can talk to or whatever I don't wanna say much but mi mi ne mou asame awa tu whatever na iso manenu mi by the I am single and I am not searching some is my friend he is more like I should I just say he is like my brother so that people understand unana and even kwa yo na atituli and as jutu katambia we don't stay in the same place we yes and nutuluku awa ingi hapukwa yo kuru they can testify everyone had their own room their own privacy and it's not the first time to me end up placed na watu yeah right guys you have heard it yourself from Julie the traveller you have heard her side of the story kweiwo wale ambom na ongea watu ungea watu ukweli kwanza si watu ukweli and mi mi tawachana I don't know it's Matthew it's Judy Matthew 7 I can remember the verse and I said my judge not for you will be judged too and the measure you give when you are judging is the same measure we will receive and do not be quick to remove innate or sodas in my eye while you are forgetting the log in your own eye kwa maha ujwii acha acha too right there Julie the traveller thank you so much guys for watching until next time have yourself a good time my name is Ishiko Gitao