 I think so much of the spiritual journey goes for, you know, Buddha said, Jesus, empty the mind, empty the mind, expose. But, yeah, there comes a point too where, you know, that old song, girls just want to have fun. Spirit, it wants to have fun now. Spirit, you know, there's a part of us that just wants this to be fun. It doesn't want to be like pulling a teeth out and struggling, and, you know, it does take trust. We're not trying to say that it doesn't take trust, it doesn't take faith, but a lot of the spiritual journey, you know, I think through the mystics and saints and all the stuff that's been written all the centuries, I mean, if you read Saint John of the Cross, if you read a lot of the mystics and saints, it just sounds daunting. It sounds like, oh, hell, I took the lid off of this thing called the shadow or the unconscious, and, oh my God, OMG, it's daunting. And admittedly, if you've had a lid on the darkness, we'll say for millennium, and now seemingly in the context of this life, you're going to go not hiding anymore, not going to push it down, not going to fight against it. You know, it can seem to be interpreted by the ego as being very dark. I mean, the ego has a dark interpretation. It's a death wish, so it will interpret everything. Even your spiritual advancements, your great soaring experiences, it will interpret in very negative ways. It will say, oh, you shouldn't do this. Well, watch out for this and be careful. So, you know, we've taken a path. Our path is really not necessarily one of renunciation. I did have somebody, I did an interview with Japan the other night, and they prepared a few questions, and one of them was like, now that you've departed from your life in the world, you know, it may sound so sad, you know, but it hasn't really been sad at all. It was, now that I've, you know, let go of convention and repetition and kind of like the ways that are prescribed to follow a very joyful, spontaneous moment-by-moment life, they were saying, how's it going? I said, it's going great, and I did share that in the interview. But a lot of people see, because of the ego's belief, they see the journey to spirit as a very sacrificial journey. I mean, when they hear Buddha say, empty your mind of everything you think you think and think you know, it's a part of the mind that goes, kind of like what's in my mind, you know, and parts of it I like, maybe. Parts of it I can like, well, parts of it I like, I don't want to let go. And so then the whole journey of emptiness, you know, which really isn't emptiness, you know, it's actually Christ is telling us, no, it's actually fullness. There's a vibrant full light and love and joy that's in your mind is natural. But when you loosen from these other goals and pursuits, which are always in the future, and start to adopt a present goal, which is peace of mind, which none of us were trained for a present goal, we think that's crazy, present goal, that's crazy. But gibberish is that. Goals are of course, goals are always in the future. But no, there actually is a present goal that's actually possible when we do give up our ambitions, when we give up our desire to change the world and strive and achieve. It's actually quite joyful not having any ambition, to have zero ambition. It's not actually lazy. It's the ego will interpret it as lazy, but it's actually very relaxing to be content, you know, to be very, very content. So this movie is something Jason put together and it's quite a kind of like a focal point of a lot of the themes we've been talking about today around roles, family roles and that idea of leader follower and all those kind of things that seem to be sticking points. Yeah, we both have a lot of ambition that has to be undone. Yeah, you're talking about ambition, it feels like for me, I've taken all the ambition I had in the world and applied it to this spiritual journey now. So I'm coming to this place and it's like, that just does not work. I get sucked into these vortexes for like a couple hours and I'm still hear a voice every once in a while like, I should be doing something or whatever, but it's just everything is so backwards to what I'm used to, what we're used to now. This has made these many movies amazing, helpful, many movies for years. And Jeffrey and Jason went to this, the largest spiritual film festival, conscious film festival in the world and they were there for a while and they were like, hey, we're here, we're attending, we're participating and finally Lisa Bear was like, come on, you guys, own it. You're filmmakers, you tell people when they say, what are you doing here? You say, we're filmmakers, you know, you're filmmakers and so they by the end of the weekend, we had this lady came up and she said, I've been praying for months, you know, and I finally feel like you guys are my producers. You should, you want to produce my movies. Jeffrey's like, we'll pray on that. We got a job offer, own it, own it. But you just, they just haven't been doing it in conventional ways. Jason's made too many to mention all these amazing tools and he's just using the work of many other people, the Wachowski brothers and many others and so forth, but it's like really to make these really strong tools and now it's, we are getting offers. I got back and a woman from, a friend of mine from Hollywood and a producer friend of hers who made major Hollywood movies, they're like, we want to make a movie of Helen Shuckman's life. And put Meryl Streep in it and all, you know, and I'm like, okay, I don't know if Meryl's short enough to play, Helen's like five foot two, but, you know, there's all kinds of movie things seem to be coming in with that vibe now. Yeah, yeah. I'm a writer now. Sheer writer. I told them the story. You told both stories. Yeah, this cost them probably a hundred million dollars and it cost us 50 to edit it a little together. So we have to use Hollywood because our budget's a lot shorter. Okay, so tonight's movie is really about, we love the father and son kind of analogy and they really believe that they're a worldly father and son. And so this movie is about taking them into the experience of being their true self, their true son of the greater father. And they have to let go of their roles of being a dad and a son in order to do that. And so just like in that song with Judas and Jesus, Jesus was saying to him, this is all for you. This movie is all for the two of them to undo everything. So they, all the drama and all the tigers and the wild animals and the rough situations, if you can just see that as a symbolic representation of the darkness in the mind that is arising as they let go of the hierarchy that they have together. Yeah, we're going to pause it a lot too. And what were you telling me Nikita? There was this, a couple themes too. It doesn't have a lot, is the mother in it or in this version or a little bit? She is, yeah. She is okay. She's like the soft voice of joining and coming back. She tells the son early on, okay, like, you know, support your father. He's doing his best. And then she tells the father, stopping a father, stopping a general and be a dad basically, symbolically start to let your heart open up. So she sends them off with the guidance, the little do they know what's coming their way. And this also has guidance too, because what happens you're going to see is the ship crashes and the father can't walk anymore. And so he can only, he wears a headset like this. To communicate with his son, a little more sophisticated and basically gives him all of this guidance because he can see the bigger picture of everything. So that's just like the Holy Spirit in our lives where he absolutely sees everything. And if the son wasted his time saying, why, you know, he'd get eaten by a lion. I cut out all the eating part, eating scenes. So you have to just imagine that this is very focused and intense. And if he follows the guidance exactly, he kind of gets out very precise without precision. Yeah. And the only times that he wants to not tell his father what he's doing or hide or protect something, you know, it still comes back to that autonomy and feeling, I know better. And that does tend to waste time when the mind's kind of in a very much of a trying to be the authority. And so on and so forth. So it's really they're both joining in learning to join in a purpose that frees them both instead of sticking with the roles. And that does fit in with a lot of what was being shared today. If you feel you're stuck in caretaking relationships, you're stuck in partnerships, you're stuck to kind of bide your time on earth and play out, you know, fulfill your role. And so on and so forth. It helps to have a context that all of the roles were made up by the ego and the Holy Spirit has to unwind the mind from those and take it into the atonement or the corrections, which is bringing you back to yourself as a spiritual being. And the ego is going to scream sacrifice and all at every turn. So it's not so much that you let people go. It's more like you you outgrow certain self concepts because all the self concepts were made by the ego. And if you get to the end of the text and of course the miracles, Jesus will say salvation is nothing more than the escape from concepts and says that the Holy Spirit is the one that will exchange self concepts. So the Holy Spirit knows that you have to go higher and higher in awareness. And so if you find yourself, well, I thought I was this, this, this, but I feel less like this than this. You start to find yourself in more flexible, expansive roles. And you go, I like this and more breathing room here. And this feels much more natural than what I was just doing. That's the Holy Spirit in your mind, exchanging self concepts. The whole tablecloth isn't ripped out. You're not hurled into reality. You're not hurled into obstruction. You're given try this one. Now try this. Now try this. And the Holy Spirit's job is to exchange the self concepts to take you higher and higher towards your last self concept, which is forgiveness. Why is forgiveness the last self concept? Because it's the one self concept that you can wholly share with everything and everyone. It's forgiveness. It's like a blanket of light that goes over the whole planet, the whole cosmos. That you can share. That's a very expansive self concept, and Jesus was a representation of that self concept. He, it was a gapé love. He loved everyone and everything because he wasn't holding on to a personal individual self concept for Abraham was I am. You know, it was everything he spoke was for the whole universe. Imagine that every word you speak is for the entire universe. It's spoken with such love and graciousness and beneficence because he's not speaking for a man or a woman. He's not speaking for this culture, that culture, this race, this ethnicity. He's speaking every word is for the entire cosmos. Because you're ready to let go of the entire cosmos and go back to your divine life, your being. So that's amazing. There's also another line in the Course of Miracles in the workbook where he says, everything you think, say and do teaches all the universe. Everything you think and say and do. Because you're the Christ and that's why everything you think, say and do teaches all the universe. You see how different that is than thinking I'm just a human being, one among billions. I have my own little private mind with my own little whirling thoughts and those little thoughts don't matter because I'm just one tiny piece of the puzzle and it's not a really always a good piece, you know, it's a struggling piece and the little cosmos is going on without me. One day I'll die and it'll just keep rolling on through time like it's been, no. Jesus says in the Course, in the workbook, he says, when you came to this world you brought the world with you. This is quantum. You didn't come as a soul into a pre-existing world that had been existing for thousands and hundreds of thousands and millions of years. You brought it with you. When you came, you unpacked the whole thing. You know, it's, that's quantum. It's the ego that would exist so we're just one tiny little soul that incarnated for its earnest little lessons, maybe move on to another lifetime and yet another, yet another. But he says in the Course when you came, you brought the world with you. I always use the example of like you're a soul flying around with a soul with a backpack. Then when you land, you open your backpack up and you unload the whole cosmos exactly as you wish it to be. You want to be a victim? You can pull out the big victim story. If you want to, want to be a king, a queen, whatever. You, you, the world is exactly as you set it up according to the ego and we're here to transcend that limited view of our very being. We're more. So yeah, any other questions before we start? Anything burning? A lot of pressure when I say burning. Okay. He's believed to be so completely free of fear that to an Ursa, he is invisible. This phenomenon is known as ghosting. That's what we're training to be. Ghosters, miracle workers, so completely free of fear that nothing of the ego can reflect itself back to us. And the Ursa's, Ursa's, it's like the sentinels, you know, in the matrix and they're basically blind but they can sense fear. They can like sense it. So, you know, we know that experience with a lot of times with animals. If you are fearless and open-hearted, the animals will reflect that fearlessness and open-hearted but it's a great connection. But if you show fear around a horse, you show fear around a dog or lots of animals, go out, show fear around a bear, show fear around a snake, you know, then that reflection of that fear comes back as a symbol of an attack acted out on the screen of the world. So in this sense, you know, the Rangers, the leader of the Rangers, we saw a clip of Will Smith just kind of walking him out right next to this big Ursa, this thing that's just devouring and killing humans and just slitting its throat because you have to have a sense of fearlessness and that relates to our waking up to our true reality. We're not going back into the experience of heaven and nirvana with fear. We've got to empty our minds of fear and we have to have a guide inside that knows the way to navigate through that and take us to a fearless state of mind. And then of course in Miracles, one of the lines that's so powerful as Jesus says, make your invulnerability manifest. You know how a lot of teachers talk about in this journey, be vulnerable, be vulnerable. They're really just saying, be okay with showing your emotions, don't try to hide things, don't try to protect things, but ultimately where's all that going? It's going to make your invulnerability manifest, make your fearlessness manifest, demonstrate to yourself and to the whole universe that you're afraid of nothing. And that has to come from mind training, from releasing grievances and attack clouds. You're not going to be fearless if you have attacks and judgments going on in your mind. You'll just have plenty of fear and it'll just be drawn to you in a cycle, like a closed system, where you feel powerless and helpless, like I'm never going to get out of this, you know, I'm never going to conquer or overcome these fears, but this is a great movie for that. See he's got all this ambition, you can see it's just driving everything because he wants this approval from his father. And we're going to get in touch with a story that I'll tell you right now, where his sister died because an Ursa came in and he was hiding under a glass jar. Because of that, like if you've heard of post-traumatic survivors guilt, like veterans that come back from war, they lived and the brothers didn't. They can call it survivors guilt. But basically he feels responsible that he's alive and she's not. And so he's constantly trying to make up for this guilt that's in his mind by doing the right thing. So that kind of sound like what we're doing feel guilty that we separated from our source. And it's so very deep in there, we're constantly trying to do things to make up for it. And that doing is based on the ego. And so we're just giving our lives over to the spirits, doing to undo that. So they're about to take a Holy Spirit journey. So it's like, you know, as you go through experiences on planet Earth, you may have experiences that seem to bring up that intense fear. If anybody's ever had a life-threatening illness or a heart attack, or a near brush with an automobile crash, or maybe you find yourself in one of the tallest buildings of the world and you're at the overlook on the top. And you get up there and you put your arms and it's, you know, it's just big things around you and you kind of lean over. You feel this swishy feeling in your stomach. Like just the anticipation of falling off in your mind. Your mind just plays out a few thoughts of, that's a long drop there. And you start to feel a little queasy. Those are all, that's all, there's fear in there. And it's fear that's associated with the bodily identity. The spirit's never afraid, but it's a fear of loss. Loss of life, loss of the friend's life. You know, you may even have a breakup with a relationship, a husband, a wife, a boyfriend, a girlfriend where you see this pit in your stomach, like a devastation. Like the one thing in your life that's had meaning has now been taken away. And it's just this deep pit of sadness or loneliness or fear or shame or guilt or whatever. So what happens is that fear has projected out a world in which you seem to be a person. In this case, we have a father-son relationship. But the one thing that is obscure in all these earth relationships is perfect equality. Even with father-son relationships, you know, we're told, you know, children are to be respectful of your elders. Doesn't it say that in the Bible, honor thy father and thy mother? Well, what about the father and mother? Honor thy, where's that honor thy child part in there as well? What we're missing is perfect equality. What we're missing is a sense of such a deep love that there's honor, there's respect, there's listening, there's intuitive guidance. And you can see already in their relationship the mother has kind of pointed out what each one needs. You know, he needs a father with a heart. And the father needs to begin to lighten up and tune into what's most truly helpful to let go of whatever the roles are. The father seems to be this experienced, revered warrior. And the son's trying to chase that to be a cadet and to kind of take on that position. But you see what it is? There's so much inequality. There's so much role. It's all tied into past learning. It's all tied into what they believe is important, the values and their egoic values that are obscuring perfect equality. And so what happens, what they're about to go through and what goes around in this world is we seem to have a lot of extreme conditions that just keep coming at us over and over and over for a whole lifetime, trying to knock the superior or the inferior out of us, wash it out of us, cleanse it out of us, you know, rinse it out of us. In fact, one time I had a group of women in South America, in Argentina, that were mothers that had very young children and they were having, they were so poor that they could just Xerox pages from Cursa de Milagros. They couldn't afford to buy the book. They could Xerox pages of Cursa Milagros to get the wisdom from Jesus in practice. And they did tell me, they said, we're learning so much from our young children. We're learning so much every day from our young children. These little ones are teaching us so much. And I said, can you summarize the teaching of the little children? And they said, oh yeah, the way the mothers summarize the teaching of the little children was, you're done. That's what the little children were teaching them. You're done. This game of superior and inferior is done. Just because you have a bigger body, doesn't mean you're the boss of me. You're not. We have the source in which we have our being and we're perfectly equals. It doesn't matter how tiny my body is. It doesn't matter what my brain's developed. It doesn't matter about education. It doesn't matter about skills. It doesn't matter about anything at all in this world. None of it means a damn thing because we're equals. We come from the same source. So basically, the mothers were thrilled to tell me the wisdom of the little children. You're done. And that does remind me of Jesus at one point in the course. He says, resign now as your own teacher. You've been poorly taught. You're teaching yourself that you're a human being based on your past learning. You've been poorly taught. Resign now as your own teacher and let the wisdom of the universe show you how loving you truly are and equal. You're not better than or are you worse than. And your skills and abilities and everything you've learned from the ego doesn't make you better or worse, even with all of that. It's much to do about nothing. So this is a great movie for that because based on past learning, the father seems to have a role. The son has a role. The son's trying to emulate the father. But in ways that actually are not going to be helpful at all, and they both have so much pride and so much ambition that have to be washed out of them. And it's going to take seemingly a set of circumstances that they're going to have to face together to do that washing. And when you think of it, that's what we're all going through. It's a very humbling journey. Very, very humbling. So he's very intuitive. Remember he put his ring up there? He can feel things. And so that's going to be used by the spirit to undo the pride. He's in touch with the presence. And these guys are like, how? How do you know that? He doesn't even answer them. He's like, move on here because of the Graviton story coming. And they're basically saying like, the chances of that are once in a million. Like it's dismissed right away. And he's got a look of, no, we need to pay attention to this because this mass expansion could happen. And that could mean in a matter of minutes, we could be in the middle of an asteroid storm. So it's an intuition coming in. Past learning says, sir, it's one in a million. They think he's wrong. So this is what a hyper jump looks like. He, I cut out a lot of scenes here, but basically they're not going to make it. They're only chances to do this jump through time and space. And but not knowing where their coordinates are going to end up because they don't have time. So it's like a leap of faith again. And remember, because they prayed to heal this ambition, they're going back to earth. A couple of us. Well remember, any of you have seen the movie Revolver? It's basically, I call it a gangster movie to wake up. It's an enlightenment gangster movie. So if this gangster can wake up, then you can too. And it's Guy Ritchie. It was Madonna's ex-husband who made it. And but there's a line in that movie, which is where you don't want to go. That's where you'll find your fears, you know, the things that you're afraid of in this world. Certain people you just want to avoid. Like, I hope I never see them again in my entire lifetime. You say that and the Holy Spirit is like, okay, the things that you're most afraid of where you don't want to go, that's where you'll find him. Him, the ego. The ego hides under familiarity and comforts and conveniences. He wants it to be nice and cozy in this world. Wants to be nice and sound asleep and covered over so the light will never find its way through. And that's what this kind of is, is where you don't want to go. So they basically have escaped Earth and they've got their own training center and their own place where they live far, far away from Earth. And now this leap is going to take them back where they can't even imagine going back to an uninhabited planet that basically the most dangerous planet in the cosmos. Because all there are, Ursa and all types of creatures that have developed since human beings left that kill humans. So it's the worst place for humans to go is back to Earth. That's like way in the past, you know, like we don't have to go back and speak. I feel like going back to the days of the dinosaurs. How am I going to navigate a dinosaur? I got high blood pressure, a little too much cholesterol on those. Oh, by the way, there are dinosaurs right in these trees. And you know, it could, you hear the earth starts to shake. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Gradsley Park, no, Calvary. You know, it would be like having dinosaurs still around. That's what it's like going back to Earth in this movie. Have fun. It's funny too because at the beginning of the movie they said that it was their fault that they had to leave Earth. They did something to the planet, so they had to leave. And it's like a lot of things. Like we're actually working with this director who won an Oscar nominate. There's won an Oscar for the documentary that she made. She's a little bit afraid to come back and be a director because she left it because there were some unhealed things. And so now the spirit's like with us bringing in this documentary again, she has to use what she left behind, like what wasn't finished. So these guys have some, I don't know what you want to call it, racial, not racial. Species guilt around what they did to the planet. Karmic, karmic. So they got to go right back into the core of that as well. Their ship is falling apart with damage. So they have to land somewhere, finally something to land on. So this is where it's landing. Warning, warning. Be recognized as impossible. It's like oh no. That relationship you wanted to get away from. So you see that's so beautiful scene right before you get thrown away. Well that's too bad. Because look that's what we call linking up. Like this is the value of community of coming together because we all don't have the same fears at the same time. So when it's coming up for somebody else, you can be that one that walks them through it and links it up as long as you're not in the hierarchy thing in the superiority stuff. And then next day or the next week it just flips. You know your stuff's coming up and the other one's holding it. So I just find that's what we mean by linking up that scene right there. You know it's beautiful when you say like do exactly what I say and we will survive. Basically like there's a precision. Leave your husband at this time or take this new job at this time. Right when you've got enough momentum and courage to do it. And if you try to do it on your own. Look at that. He doesn't like that you're talking. The bear. Okay I'll keep playing. So he's still got this ambition. He's trying to show his father how good he is. But he broke four of them running away from some monkeys. So he's only got two left. So he's gotta keep going. That's an example of people pleasing. Where you're trying to please someone. You want to tell them what they want to hear. Rather than what is the truth. And amazingly in human relationships there's a lot of it. Telling people what they want to hear. Telling bosses what they want to hear. Telling parents what they want to hear. Telling children. Telling teachers what they want to hear. Not helping anyone. Because there's a fear around speaking it. What was the John Mayer song? Say what you need to say. You know we have to be the point where we can disclose things. And if we have fear around saying certain things. We have to face those fears. That's what it's meant to do. We're meant to speak up. We're not meant to keep stuffing it. Swallowing our words. Pushing things down. Repressing. You've got issues with a partner. You've got to say it. Got issues with a parent? Say it. Issues with a child. Say it. You have to disclose things. Because this trying to walk around on eggshells. And dance around things like that. That isn't going to work. It actually slows down the healing. There's a dishonesty. There's a deception. And you can see when he first asked him. And he gave the false number. You can see his heart rate. His father is watching everything. You can see the heart rate. Imagine if in all your relationships you had biofeedback hooked up to your partner. I think I'm going on a trip. You know. Why are you so why is your heart rate going up? I just said I'm going on a trip. What does that mean for you? What are you interpreting? I'm saying imagine if you had biofeedback hooked up to stress. Every time your stress level starts to go up. Not even around words. But just around situations. No. But there's meaning. I have given everything I see. All the meaning it has for me. There's interpretations that are disturbing. There's not actual events. Actual people. Actual things in the world that are disturbing us. I'm never upset for the reason I think. Jesus teaches us in number five. It's interpretations in our mind. We're upsetting ourselves. The world's not upsetting us. Partners never upset us. Nothing does. But when we started interpreting things in a guilty, fearful way, we need to get in touch with the thoughts and the feelings and the beliefs that are underneath those interpretations so that we can choose a new interpretation with the Holy Spirit and see that it's fearless. That there's nothing really to be afraid of. So this is really a great teaching, learning relationship that's going on here. Can you see all that? He has to jump. He has to jump to use two. Two roots. Only one of them is a viable one if he jumps. But his father's got some protectionism in here so you're going to see his response. This is very much like your spiritual journey. You will get to a point where you have the voices of the past. Orders, protectionism, everything. And there will come a leaping up point where you will have to just say, I'm not a coward. And you can see he's willing to just risk it all and face what it is. And it seems to be going against his father, but now he's intuitive. I can make it with two of those breathing vials. But it's really, this is quite similar to the spiritual journey where the voices of the past are trying to hold you back. And you have to go with your intuitive trust. You can't let anything hold you back. And you can see that if you really study the lives of the mystics and the saints, you know, everything from Mother Teresa, St. Francis, all the way down the line, you see they all come to these leaping off points where the devotion to find and experience, the divine, is more important to them than their fears, their past fears. And the ego is generating all the past fears, saying you can't make it. You say, look, what are your chances? You look at the few that have tried and how it went for them. You think you're going to succeed where they failed, you know, that's the kind of mentality that you face. What you felt was an enemy. You end up in a nest. Just the bird thought he was one of its babies. So he's trying to bring him back to the nest and some lion cub came and killed all the other babies. So that's all of that. He's lost his communication link because he's trying to go past the hierarchies so he can't talk to his dad anymore. That's very symbolic too. He takes the leap and he loses the communication link to Dad. And now he's really got to be intuitive because he's trusted and it's worked out. But now he's got to go even further. That's why with the course, I mean people talk about studying the course for 30 years, 40, 50, 60 years. The course actually is you have to get weaned off the course and weaned off of every spiritual path into your authentic listening. Of course, of course it has to go that way because I had a woman one time who came to me and she had studied what was the guy named Dave Hawkins, the kinesiology and all this and this and she was using pendulums. She would ask and trust the pendulum to get all her answers from the Holy Spirit. That's great. And then she became horrified one day when she asked her pendulum for the answers and the thing just laid there after moving for years telling her her answers, what to do and what not to do. She calls me up and she goes, oh my God, I think I've lost it. I said, what have you lost? And she said, my pendulum is just staying straight down. It's been moving for years telling, guiding me and everything. She said, this is horrible. I said, no, no, it's not horrible. She said, what does it mean? What does it mean? I said, now you have the ability to hear and feel internally. You don't need a swinging pendulum and he doesn't have the arm piece and the ways of communicating but he doesn't need it anymore. It's never a sense of loss. Winter comes really quick. It drops like five degrees an hour or something keeps going. So a sister came as a symbol in his mind because he needed to wake up where he would just frozen to death. So that's now the symbol said his father speaking to him. It's just a symbol in his mind. The bird's motherly instinct is to care for one. Pull it out of the cold. It's like we get these things on our journey too. People that show up just at the right time. Things that happen to us as we really are going for God. We don't even know how we're going to make it in the world. The circumstances turn in our favor because that's God's will that we wake up in. Like you said angels. That bird is like twice now. Take it to the nest and take it out of the cold. It's like Jesus watching us sometimes. You've got the beacon which you're just not quite in the right position. You need to be a little higher before the beacon can be used. So instead of going into a tirade and the whole thing, my life is a wasteless piece of shit. Nothing works right for me. I'm getting nowhere. Da, da, da. Pieces like we need to go to higher ground here to activate this. Please, Wispy. We have more instructions to go. Some fear to face. Some more fears. An Ursa on those two. The ego on the loose. The closer you get to the escape the ego is loose. Senses fear. Yeah. He hasn't faced the core yet. He's still trying to prove to his dad he can do the right thing and he's got to let go. And in this movie they use like almost dying. You know if you had like in your death experience where you let go of everything in your life somehow. That's close. So he hasn't had his yet. Taken either. Ah! Spooky action at a distance. That the electronics aren't working but he's had taken me and the power of prayer is coming in. This is quite symbolic of the spiritual journey because the ego will try to to scare you along the journey with thoughts of fearful outcomes and fearful things in the world. You know when you look at when they've done psychological studies at the high stressors death of a loved one, loss of the job, you know all the things that are the highest stressing things for human beings. They're all external events and what we're learning from A Course in Miracles is there are no external events. There is nothing outside of your mind like it's it's a labyrinth it's a maze of false thoughts and beliefs. The ego is going to try to scare you into giving up and just go back into the past go back follow the masses follow the herds of symbols that are just trying to survive. What are the billions of people in this world seeming to do but survive? They're trying to live another day they're trying to keep their heart speeding they're trying to survive but there's more to life than survival. There's actually forgiveness and spiritual awakening that's what this is all about. The ego is just projecting it out as if there's all these things that can end your life but you have to go much much deeper to start to realize that what seems to be physical death isn't an end at all. It's just more of a continuation because the mind that can make a body can make another body and another body and another body some people call it reincarnation you know you can keep playing it out this bodily survival thing over and over and over all these are generated memories in the mind and all these seeming lifetimes are just generated memories and they're all false memories as long as you keep thinking that's the game to survive in bodily form and not have your heart open and not have your mind cleansed and not reach forgiveness then it's just putting your attention and your care in all these memories and the whole point of this mind is doing this with these memories it's that things that there's good memories and there's bad memories but the thing is that's the projection of the split into the mind even the good memories and the bad memories are part of the game because there's the good dreams and the bad dreams what's the problem of good dreams and bad dreams is that Jesus says the dreams that you think you like can hold you back as much as those in which the fear is present so if you're just trying to do the law of attraction creating your reality and create some good memories then those good memories you could become attached to those but you'll just keep regenerating those and try to avoid the negative ones and generate the positive ones and it doesn't get you out of the loop of karma it doesn't get you out of time it just keeps you stuck in the loop trying to maximize the good ones and minimize the bad ones accentuate the positive eliminate the negative and you go nowhere he's still stuck in time like a fly is stuck in glue like a fly is stuck on flypaper and so we've got a lot of different tools I was thinking of Times N one of Jason's movies of showing that and in this sense there has to be something more than falling for these fear things I mean it looks like he's telling them to run right now but ultimately this is all just a metaphor don't run away from looking within and facing your thoughts and beliefs that's what the goal of meditation is that's what the goal of introspection is that's what the goal of contemplation is all the pathways that the mystics and saints have used for centuries are there still for us but the ego will try to make up all kinds of distractions to have you abort the mission the ego wants you to abort the awakening mission all costs and what this is doing is it's saying no don't abort keep coming inside so it's quite a metaphor here he's he's going down into a cave now it was a good metaphor to face the deep deeper stuff so it's like as I was saying fear attracts fear as long as you have fear thoughts in the mind you cannot help but experience interpreting the dream as if there's something fearful in the dream that can get you just like a child who's having a nightmare of like a dragon will say or a monster is chasing it and no matter what the child does as long as he's still afraid of that monster he will keep having recurring dreams of that monster chasing him until perhaps he turns around and he faces the monster head on so the monster isn't this thing that's coming chasing him he has to face it and you might say that was some of you did any of you see the matrix movie where basically uh neo is running from the agents dodging bullets and the agents are always after him you know in fact cipher says whatever you see an agent you do what we do run because as long as the fear is in the mind you will still keep reacting and responding to the images as if they're fearful tornadoes, tsunamis, starvation all the things of this world germs you know weapons on and on and on burglars on and on terrorist it just goes on but if you get to the point like he remember he said in this movie when he was laying there it was raining he said dad what did you do when you first ghosted when you first went into presence when you first weren't afraid because he the son knows that that's got to be the answer is is being free of fear and his dad said while he was down he described the whole thing and he was watching the blood go up in the sunlight and he said is that pretty blood when blood became pretty that was the moment that he was not identified with the with the body the blood was pretty it's a pretty color with the sunlight it was just a gazing upon something so you can see that that's this movie is running parallel to what we're talking about we have to get to the point where we face the fear within the mind and then the world will just reflect back our state of mind but as long as we have fear within that we haven't looked at then the world will just keep acting it out because that's what it was made to do it's just to act it out so at this point he's still like running from the agents he's the ursa is the agent he's still going for the goal of enlightenment and light in the beacon but he has to actually go towards the monster like the opposite direction look at the blocks so it's like when you're fearless when you're guiltless when you know your strength when you know your invulnerability then the ego can't see you but the ego can't even smell you but you want to transcend the ego go into your strength where it can't even smell you how could it attack you when it can't even smell you it doesn't even it can't the ego can't recognize the Christ and who you are is the Christ so if you go into the strength true empathy your invulnerability your divine being your spirit there is no ego there is nothing to conquer there is nothing to transcend there's nothing to battle it's simply that the ego can't smell you of course the ego is blind but it but it's still in this movie it still was sniffing you know and there's a lot of fear with that sniffing it could it could sniff fear but without that fear your invulnerability is there and then isn't it great what's that beautiful symbol with the Father in the end the saluting there wasn't any more that arrogant I'm the Father you're the Son I'm better than you you're not a ranger all that was gone it was just equality that's what what comes from the fearlessness you you know your own strength and therefore you can recognize it and everybody else and you don't you don't have to be better than anybody you don't have to be lording over anybody you know in this world we have jobs and we have hierarchies in terms of who's the bosses who are the superiors and everything how how absurd to think that our reality involves superiors and inferiors that that our reality involves answering to people does anybody in this world had a job where you were in a management position that's supposed to be an advance over being the factory worker but anybody tried it out managing is hell managing is stressful trying to get people to control people and have people do what they're supposed to do to come to work and do these things for the pay that they receive and the benefits and trying to keep people you know management is hell management is supposed to be the thing you advance to and then when you get there you go something is tricky something's fishy about this whole setup because if management is so stressful then it must not be that's not must not be my divine reality so so we're just here to see the perfect equality and what a beautiful scene with them to just acknowledging each other I want to go work with mom me too we share the same purpose I love it it seems exhausting but really the lesson is simple don't lead I may not follow don't follow I may not lead walk beside me on the self-same road and hold my hand or we go together to our source you know that's I mean it's really really really just one simple lesson it's perfect perfect equality we're not going back to oneness until we can at least get the perfect equality then we can let go of the parts we can let go of the holding hands and everything and just open to ascend so you know we're meant to have a joyful experience while we perceive ourselves within perception but you know there was an old bumper sticker life's a bitch and then you die actually it's the way the awakening goes life's a joy and then you ascend that's what this is all about you have to first go into the joy you're not going into ascending or some of you might have seen that movie transcendence with johnny depp you're not going into the unified field it was the internet kind of represented and not going into this higher intelligence until you experience a joy you don't go to eternal life through death you go to eternal life through waking through forgiveness so it's just like it's so great because there's so many movies there's so many tools there's so many experiences that are available to find that joy even the bible said make a joyful noise unto the lord well i think that has a lot to do with with finding your heart song like in the penguin movie it does when you find your center you find your core you hit your stride you hit your rhythm you know you find something that just is wanting to come through you that feels so good and so right and you are willing to let go of all the naysayers all the all the those that say you can't do that to tell you no and so on and so forth and and really going for it and just looking and honestly facing everything in your mind it would that would be an obstacle that would say you can't i mean really honestly the only obstacle is fear and i think for myself there was a point in my life i think i was in my 20s where i honestly decided to take a look at the motivations in my mind and i said how much of my life as david in in my 20s how much of my life is motivated by fear how much of my life is motivated by survival am i taking jobs because i find them inspiring or am i doing it because of fear what my parents might think whether i'll survive in society and so on and so forth we have to let that inspiration in us that love in us be our motivating factor so that everything you do in your life from the relationships you're drawn to from the tasks you're drawn to from the things in this world that that seem to be have a draw for you to put your your mind's attention into you know it's a journey of of being on the cutting edge of inspiration you know in our community it's you could Jason and Jeffrey have been sharing they've had this inspiration for film and filmmaking and you said you went to an akashic reading yeah and you were told to write you just told to write last thing that he would ever have thought to hear and then the akashic reading was that he was to write he was always waiting for the writer to show up who's going to be the right who's going to write a script i'll make a movie who's going to be the writer and then you were told that and then Jeffrey's answering his call getting into just the nuances of what is it how am i to be used there you are sitting close to the cameras now that's just like a symbol it's like it's it's coming in like the spirit knows the way and the spirit knows what Joseph Campbell was saying follow your bliss you know it was amazing thing that Joseph Campbell said follow your bliss isn't that the opposite of everything we've ever heard and learned in the world i mean most of this didn't really we weren't raised with parents as we're sitting at the dinner table said whatever you're going to do it doesn't matter just follow your bliss you imagine that but that that's what the spirit is actually telling us on the inside you know we really are to do that we have our skills and abilities will be channelized in a in a wonderful direction that it's not about even the skills and abilities they'll be channelized into a state of mind it will take us into an awareness and that's what's been the whole point not to achieve something not to conquer anything not to like leave a legacy for future generations there are no future generations that's part of the trick too that there's future generations didn't a lot of us grow up in households and everything that says sacrifice for future generations sacrifice for future generations what kind of message is that oh it'll be hard on you but the future generations will benefit no that's still part of a trick that there's some kind of thing out there in the future that we should keep focused on and just grin and bear it and struggle and strive and do all this so that the future you know will bring something brighter for most of us that was something at least there was something optimistic and hopeful about it will get better in the future but if you get to of course the miracles you get all the way through deeper into the text Jesus has a section called the immediacy of salvation in which Jesus Christ says be not content for future happiness for it is not your just reward for you have cause for freedom now he's still zoom in ascended the present moment he's still telling us don't even go for future happiness as much as that was sentimentally kind of there it's not good enough so the whole book is really saying you know you have a calling you have a part to play in the plan and if you answer the call and really go for it you will start to feel the joy that's how you'll know when you're zooming into God's will it's through the joy and the more consistent that joy becomes the more you know you are on the homing beacon you are in the rescue you personally haven't done anything but your mind is being rescued by the Holy Spirit lifted out of this dark shrouded sleep guilt pain suffering it does actually come back to starting to realize that you have to change the purpose and there's no amount of efforting in the form that is actually going to get you there it's that's even that kind of effort will fall away in the end with this state of acceptance it's just on our movie watch this guide to enlightenment you know it's like it's been such a devotion to go into this waking up now that that what has come as a reflection of this devotion is now mwge.org is a pathway to God people talk about meditation as a pathway to God prayer you know all these different kind of techniques now there's a way to actually use movies to wake up we just went through an experience together but with the commentaries with the setups and with some of those teachings like Time's End Time's End is just one of those unspeakably amazing parables of moving into the light moving into extraction of stopping this hope of trying to break memories apart into two categories good memories and the bad memories because there has to be something beyond that as they say at the end of Solaris we don't have to think like that anymore am I dead am I alive we don't have to think like that anymore that's that's really transcending the outcomes of the world yeah we are in the homing beacon anybody had any huge insights with this movie I don't but I'm glad that you were able to interpret it for me well there's Touched by an Angel series I bought all nine seasons and you can whatever motion you've got in a day you can like let the spirit pick one for you sometimes a good teaching metaphor I cry nine out of ten of them when I cry I'm like pick the right one the way the world is set up is you know Jesus even used the word in the course called the riddle everyone on earth every human being is trying to solve the riddle of their life and riddle is a very interesting word for Jesus Christ fusing to describe a human life a human life if we took one symbol from the keyboard of a keyboard of a computer a human life would be a question mark not an eye it'd be a question mark the ego asked the first question in heaven there's no questions just pure bliss pure love pure joy the ego asked the very first question what am I it's a question of identity if you are a holy child of God and you're questioning that that is what Jesus calls a question on a scale that you can't even imagine if the one thing that you could ever know is yourself as a child of God and you're questioning the only thing that you could ever know you've just set up a riddle and your entire life on earth is nothing more than an unsolvable riddle there will never be an answer on earth to the question of what is my life for I use that example many times where Ken Wabnik says I was doing the dishes I think listening to a cassette tape by Ken Wabnik one time and somebody asked Ken what does the Course say about life on other planets and Ken said the Course says there's no life on this planet now why is there no life on this planet because everything is a question mark every person is a question mark every leaf is a question mark every bladed grass is a question mark everything in this world of fragmentation and separation is a question mark everything that you perceive is a riddle that has no answer there's one point in the Course that you go far enough deep into it and you go deep enough with it it will say that all of the road ways of the world lead to death why? because they're question marks come on tell me a blade of grass will lead to death absolutely because fragmented perception is the denial of wholeness and if you believe anything even a blade of grass exists in and of itself apart from everything else imagine you just take that little shred of something and you give it a name grass blade of grass and you carve it out of the entire cosmos that's what the separation is that's what the fear of awakening is is fear of losing everything that you believe is real and true of losing all the question marks so awakening is really about surrendering and coming up every single day where you wake up and you go you need to show me I am not seeing clearly I've been hallucinating I've been I've got an imagination run wild here that's gone way far from divine love into fragmented perception recently I was down in Australia this year and I was in a car and I was going to go out to lunch with some friends and I'm in the car and in Australia you know the steering wheel is on the right hand side so I'm sitting in the passenger's and we're driving down the road and it's some man out there with one of these weed professional weed whackers that's cutting the grass and he's cutting the grass on the side as the car is going by and I'm just in there windows up and everything and all of a sudden a rock comes out from the weed tracker at a high speed right at the glass window where I am in the passenger's side and boom I'm doing one of my talks I'm doing a discussion and boom the the rock hits and the glass just starts you know it doesn't go through the window it just starts breaking up into thousands and tens and thousands and literally probably millions I mean a way and it just went like this and I continued my talk the people in the car were just like and I was I was making a point it was a very important point I was not to be distracted by rocks and shattered glass I don't I don't fall for these kind of so they were like at the end they were like and you continued right on the one in the back Tia was in the back I think in salmon they were like you didn't break a stride you didn't even pause you just continued on and as the driver's like pulling the car over and anyway as we pull the car over you can literally hear the glass it's still splintering you can hear it and we get out of the car it's just splintering splintering into tinier pieces and tinier and tinier fragmenting fragmenting fragmenting that's what this cosmos is it's just look at the advertising look at the explosion of images you know think back to the day of many centuries ago when out on a farm and there might have been animals and this and this but look at the way cities and advertising and internet and cable all it is is an explosion of images it's just it's just shattering it's just going more and more into tiny tiny pieces there's not going to be a you're not going to find a solution in that shattering glass in fact they finally you know came along and a guy came along and he said he'll let me help you out and he literally had to say stand aside and they just took a like a hammer and they kept but they had to bust it it was one of these kind of things that's not meant to fall in on you so it just kept it just kept splintering until the guy finally came with a hammer and to try to knock it out of there and knock every piece of glass out so we could continue on with an empty with a hole in the side of our where the window was but to me that was like that was an amazing metaphor because you could even hear it continue to splinter so some people say is the world getting worse no is the world getting any better no it's just completely neutral but when we give it meaning when we still believe there's good memories and bad memories and good outcomes and bad outcomes we're simply making real and awareness something that has no meaning whatsoever it's like a cracked glass I like any kind of answer that doesn't judge something good or bad but simply sees the value of the mirror we've been hearing all this stuff about Donald Trump the best answer I've ever heard when somebody asked Deepak Chopra about Donald Trump he said what do you think about Donald Trump and the president and all this and this and this he said oh well very very good he is reflecting all of our unconscious thoughts was it so wonderful he is showing us everything we do not want to look at and the guy said well maybe he is but I'm certainly not going to vote for him as my president well that is part of the collective decision we shall see what that is you see there was nothing there nothing there positive or negative you know we should see what the collective decision is you know and it's a perfect reflection so you it's totally neutral there's no person, place, thing event anything that means anything but if you if you give it meaning then then you're you're in help you give meaning to the meaninglessness and then goes in help so the course starts off with lesson number one nothing I see means anything he's going to take us back into reclaiming the power of our whole mind our holistic mind by coming back to a clearing of perception to see the world in a holistic way and and that should be the thing why would you not see the simplicity of a course where lesson 79 is let me recognize the problem so it can be solved and lesson 80 is let let me recognize my problems have been solved that's pretty good well have already been solved but as long as I'm still picking apart things and I'm saying this is good this is bad this is right this is wrong this is ethical this is not ethical who am I to judge who set up all this judgment certainly not God and it's our that's the whole point of everything is to see that not that you should stop judging but that you've never been capable of judging anything ever because God didn't set it up I don't have to play by those rules that will make you indescribably happy to have no opinions what is your opinion about this prime minister what's your opinion about the pollution what's your opinion about this workshop what's your opinion about this person I don't know be honest just say I don't know that's not wrong that's not bad it's good to not know to me this is really good stuff it's a good experience I had a girlfriend years ago and we used to love to go to Indian restaurants and just talk so it comes in all that comes in handy now for deep box non-judgment lesson there's a lot of really wonderful non-dualistic teaching but what one of the most helpful aspects about of course the miracles is that it gives you the construct of the concept of guidance so if you believe in judgment which is what the human condition is then why not let the Holy Spirit judge for you why not say to the Holy Spirit decide for God for me here's my day it's an open blank slate what would you have me do where would you have me go who would you have me talk to who would you have me call on the phone or on Skype or who would you have me hug what would you have me do today in other words if I'm going to unwind from a system of judgment then maybe there is one who has a higher perspective that can give it to me that can literally inform you moment by moment day by day and how wonderful it is to be in alignment to be in that alignment with source with presence when you have learned how to decide with God all decisions become as easy and as right as breathing and it will be as if you are carried down a quiet path in summer that's what Jesus tells us carried down a quiet path in summer we can relate to that here we have some quiet paths in summer that's the incentive for tuning in that's the incentive for clearing away the the obstacles so that you can tune in and hear the voice and that guidance has only one purpose is to unwind your mind out of guilt it has no other purpose in fact there comes a point of stillness where you don't need guidance anymore you know it's just total acceptance of what is total stillness there's no need to even ask for help because there's a recognition who you are David do you see everything as a dream and if so what does that look like it's very surreal it's like that's the experience of of dreaming there's there's a sense of just observing and watching but there's there's not a sense that anything is ever out of place so so there's not even in a lot of buddhist terms sometimes they'll talk about right action I heard a Course in Miracles friend recently gave a talk on Course in Miracles and right action the Course is talking about right-mindedness and alignment and right thinking and Jesus does say what you do comes from what you think but the focus is totally on that alignment and thoughts to be in that stream of thoughts with the whole spirit and so in that sense it's like everything is unified so it's it's not you're not breaking the world into the past present future saying anymore Jason was talking about having no ambition yes in in the happy dream there's no ambition so if there are plans that you're given or things that you're guided to say or do or even set up there's no investment in is in terms of outcomes you don't really have a sense of anticipation you have more I would say just contentment so it's not like you're anticipating what's to come and you see how different that is from the human condition humans working job that they don't like and tgif thank god it's Friday anticipating vacations you know oh here's my calendar get my iPhone out many more I've only got seven more months to go till my vacation you know that there's such a future focus to overcome a sense of despair or a sense of depression a sense of kind of a a mundane low grade sadness I love that McCartney song do do do do do it's just another day it's kind of there's a melancholy in that song it's just another day like going through the motions another day of surviving on planet earth you know where's the joy in that but when there's a sense of purpose when you really give yourself over to that purpose when you're aware that what you're doing you're doing for the whole universe then then that moment of fullness where you feel like the whole universe is with you is is your mind and so there's nothing out of place in that there's nothing nothing that needs to be fixed or changed there's no problems in that that's the value of that experience the human conditions just seems like every day there's a whole set of problems and you do the best that you can do with that set every day comes with its own set of problems and then you go to sleep at night and already when you're trying to fall off the sleep sometimes you you're still rehashing the unsolved problems or you're thinking about problems of the next day how am I going to deal with that tossing and turning last night I didn't get to sleep at all no no the sleeping pill I took was just a waste of time I couldn't close my eyes because you were on my mind and that last night I didn't get to sleep no I didn't get to sleep at all you know it's hard to even sleep when you've got problems worrying through your mind and again it may seem like you've got a lot of problems on a lot of different levels like the dam breaking and you're just plugging a little clay here and there every day to try to keep as much water out as possible but we're coming back to that riddle thing what if the only problem is that riddle of identity is still trying to play small trying to play human when you have a spiritual reality that's being denied and those little question marks just keep popping up every day back to guidance six weeks ago I retired because I was guided to I started at work I was sitting in a meeting and thinking what am I doing these people making up all these rules and making others suffer and you know I started seeing myself sitting at my desk and thinking this is such a waste of time and I loved my job I loved the people I loved and yeah then I got sick for four days at work and I thought this is spirit telling me this is it you've got to make the decision you've got to go of course other people said to me did you go to the doctor and I said no I wasn't sick in that way it was internal it wasn't something I could explain to them and I thought you know I could be studying the course you know I'm just wasting no time here I'm going through all these emotions and suffering maybe and now I'm retired and finding other distractions you know even though I'm studying it every day and every night I'll sort of think such a nice day I want to go out and I want to distract myself not enough for this now and in the last week ego really heavily fighting with me and it's pretty of a struggle you know to stay it's vertical yes instead of retiring maybe you could think of it as you are repurposing your life like you are clarifying and allowing the Holy Spirit to purify the purpose for everything and so there are no accidents that when things seem to come to an end even employment you still will face the same mind training issues that you would whether you were working you're still going to be there but now this repurposing you know it's really like the prayer of your heart saying come into my life come into my mind come into my heart inspire me lift me up and I think one of the nice things about these kind of retreats is you meet mighty companions you get exposed to tools you get exposed to possibilities and those are like seeds the Holy Spirit is planting a lot of seeds and a number of them will germinate because you have a spaciousness you know because you care that they germinate because you'll water the seeds you want them to have sunlight you want you want them to germinate I think the most difficult thing in the spiritual journey is this feeling of aloneness like somehow we have to we're all alone in the universe and even though the Spirit is saying it's your lesson and everything that's happening is all for your mind it's not in a personal way but when we believe we personally have to solve the riddle which the riddle is set up on the personal it's unsolvable but you know I think that's the power of joining that's the thing that I've always enjoyed that's doing these kind of retreats and gatherings is I know there's a much greater plan of work where people who are meant to meet are meeting where things are meant to ignite or meant to be inspired you know with a lot of our ministry as we've gone along we basically we got into doing like movie watchers guide to enlightenment not only the book but then putting it online we did things mystical mind training program because we met people I met people around the world that said I don't know anybody else who studies the course or I live in a remote area and there's no one around me they would say things like I live in the Bible Belt of the United States I live in Mississippi where there's no course activity anywhere near and everything but but it was like well you can link up even to the internet and you can have a mind training partner they may not live in Mississippi but they're there the thing will be given when that's the prayer of the heart so to me that's part of this celestial speed-up is overcoming transcending the sense of of aloneness because that's that's one thing see most overwhelming you feel like you're you're in it entirely on your own and ultimately like even in the the mini movie there it had to transfer he he basically the father and son were not really communicating it was the mother that was the bridge you know that's that kind of talked about them and then the father taking the son on the trip was the crack of opening saw the big smile on the sun's face like oh I get to go with dad on a trip and then it was pretty extreme I was a very extreme trip but it it came around to a sense of equality and yeah healing and respect and everything so it's a nice little minister's story of how how it can go I always say too my feeling is when we when I meet people I feel like everyone that I meet on planet earth that we are brought together for a very holy purpose and that we are lifelong companions along the way and that's what what it is you know we we have not come together by accident but this there's a very important reason also I I'm always one in favor of retirement I took early retirement in my 20s because I had a very important purpose that was so important that I thought okay Jesus didn't really have to twist my arm to take retirement you know in my late 20s it was more of like it was it was a leap of faith because I threw my lingering thoughts and careers and gaining something and achieving something and making something happen and money doesn't grow on trees and we hit all those back and forth discussions but actually I'm always happy to hear that people are retiring from the world because everything is an opportunity to learn divine trust I call it divine providence that everything that is needed is provided but it just comes in what the world would call unconventional ways whereas the world's all about you have to handle your survival on your own that you know nobody else is going to do it for you so you have to do it and that can be very stressful too so I think our collaborative efforts have have been amazing in seeing things start to show up and things working out in amazing ways miraculous ways but not ways that any of us could have predicted we are constantly finding ourselves looking at each other going can you believe this you know it's almost like it pinched me you believe what we're experiencing and we could have never seen anything going this way I had no implications I didn't even know what a course of miracle was I didn't know what spiritual awakening was I think back in when the parable of David in the late 20s I'm just coming out of graduate school all I don't know what the world holds for me I'm not very ambitious but yet I don't want to waste my life I'm just full of questions and a crack of openness and then the course of miracles drops into my lap and I go just opening and hmm something's going on here something important it's a change in life direction it's it's going to be completely different than anything that I ever you know I could feel all those kind of things like seas germinating inside of me and I didn't even know where it was going but like the sun there I just jumped right off the cliff just here we go it's been Robert Brownies from The Road Less Travel two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one less traveled by I took the not the well-worn beaten down path but the seemingly rare path the one less traveled by Christ inspired the way that's straight and narrow he said in the Bible I took that road and that has made all the difference that's what lights us up so you're not alone on this journey Robert? I have a mighty companion but so my lifesaver and we met by accident so you know I know they're no accident and I'm so grateful you're up more now and today I've had so many miracles because I've had lots of questions with the people and you've answered everyone it's like yeah isn't that amazing you just you showed up I'm not trying to yeah people like that they sometimes they don't even have a chance to write it down or speak it out it's like tick tick tick tick oh wow that's interesting I had this and then tick tick tick tick you get answered it's a time saver to come together in this purpose so you go like years ahead what learning that could have taken thousands of years and you go to bed and I my direction is shifting in a good way here and then you just feel it yeah I guess I just have this fear that ego is you know they coming over here you know into my heart and I'm trying to push back and he keeps coming and I go back again with a vengeance my friend Sam when I first met her I was over in Manchester and I I went to do a gathering in Manchester, England and she told me much much later that she said when she sat down with the whole group of people in the circle she heard this clear and distinct voice in her mind that said to her you are going to die that's what she came to one of my gatherings and so I said what did you do when the voice said you are going to die she said I took everything from me I stayed through the whole thing I'm gonna I'm gonna be here I'm gonna be here I'm gonna listen I'm gonna hear you know but it was almost like the ego which is like all it kind of is like a spider that hides hides in the dark crevices in your mind but when you come close something that is like a direct pointer to the light if the little spider comes out and just like who's in but who's boss here you are going to die but but she didn't really follow that voice she's just taking steps and more steps and more steps to come in deeper closer to go for it you know even though it was almost like the ego was saying fair warning I'm gonna tell you something now when you study the course you know the ego doesn't know what it wants and the ego doesn't like the thought of its own death because the ego wants to exist so Jesus has a line in the course where it says the ego will pursue you beyond the grave that doesn't sound very good that sounds like a freddy kruger movie only worse than a freddy kruger movie that's puff of something that's going to pursue you beyond the grave in other words you can't die to escape it it's just going to be waiting for you even beyond the grave to get you because I told you yeah I told you so and this and this and the ego's goal is health and so it does have a clear cut goal and it's health and it's always health in the future you know it wants that's why you know it doesn't mind suicide because it's going to keep pushing for its goal and eternal life is showing that there is no health that it cannot be a goal and yet when the mind keeps playing this identity game it still pursues this crazy goal so I think for us to say resign now you know as your own teacher that to me that just reminds me how we have to we just have to follow we have to be willing to trust and follow I was like and risen last night when clavius kept asking all the disciple pool what's happening why did he show up now he's like we're followers man we don't know we just follow him they just keep doing whatever jesus tells me yeah I like when it was in it was really pushing hard with that one apostle like you know where is he where is he if you tell me where he is I will let you go and he's like so you'll let me go free if I if I tell you where he is and he's like yes he is everywhere and shoots out the door is that is that an answer absolutely shoots out the door after delivering he is everywhere almost like you're asking me the greatest question and you're gonna set me free if I if you allow me the great honor to tell you the answer and then the everyone was like damn that was a the turning point though those things add up in the end that's that was there you know yeah I like that yeah his innocence was beautiful everyone can relate to a story of convincing like of total disbelief and totally just trying to see things in the way the world sees him and then and then being proven wrong and yet giving way to that going like oh my god thank god I was wrong yeah god I was wrong about this identity chase there's one book that we had I got years ago called The Peace of God is my own goal and I put these two two course of miracles students and teachers going around and you know they would just accept what was given and they were given two beautiful harps but they didn't know how to play the harps so they ended up carrying the harps with them and they went into this church I think it was a unity church that's the way the parable goes and they just would get in there and they would strum a little but they didn't know how to play the harps and then they're giving this talk on A Course in Miracles and then the wife Barbara Varley at one point turns to the audience to the whole congregation and says tonight my husband Robert and I are going to play the harps and the look on Robert's face it's like how dare you promise I mean what has gotten into you woman you know it was just and then they both came and they just got their hands to the side and the spirit came through and played the most glorious song it just the spirit just channeled through them they just had the willingness they didn't have they didn't have the experience skill anything but they they were just used and I I did have a friend Donna Marie Carey too who took down many many great songs from the spirit in the beautiful albums but she did tell me that there was one time where she was on the stage and she went up and she got the microphone she hit her guitar and then she channeled an original song an entire original song just purely channeled it out of pure willingness and at the end of the song she came off and her her husband Brian was just like going when did you write that one oh my god that was that's one of the best songs you have ever written and she kind of got into the side and said did you record that and he said no she said I didn't write that song it just came that was that was a one time nobody recorded it and everything and it just came through and you know musicians do that sometimes the jam sessions where they're just feeling the vibe and the rhythm and they're feeling all the love and then amazing things can come through but it's purely in the moment it's not something that's prearranged or thought about we can see it's just there and to me that's another symbol of how we're meant to live our life we don't always have to keep rehearsing planning I do talks I've been doing talks for 30 years and and I just I don't ever write them down I don't plan them I don't prepare them doesn't matter whether it's a small group or a whole auditorium full it's the same thing Tony asks them to write out what his talks are gonna be and they have to be identical two talks in a session he's like like a channel this paragraph to tell you but both talks are totally different but Tony's happy he just is good yeah you can't more and more that's just the way you life is it's totally spontaneous totally given