 So there's just the perceiving identity and then at one point it is one again with the body and at one point it is separate from the body but the body is the basis of that ability to perceive and if the body is the basis for that ability to perceive because there is no perception in the way you understand it and express it without the body it is an it is an impossibility it's a contradiction so that experience is an experience where the thinking retracts into itself and exists as a thought because a perception is is only grasped when it is expressed in the thinking