 para saber si los muestros están vivos, siendo hechos en Gaza ahora mismo. Esta es la edición de la 24 de julio de breaking news. Soy Denise Levine. Gracias por ver. En Día Recargas Internacionales, Altis a tu gente, en R&D. Acede a nuestra página web. Recargas.altis.com.do. Selecciona Recargas y digita el número al que deseas colocarle la recarga. Además, ellos reciben el doble de balance en recargas de 8 dólares o más. Altis. La red global de los dominicanos. Mi edición de la noticia es Denise Levine. Vení a vivir de Tel Aviv. El día 38 de la guerra, un esquadero de jamaquilla eliminado en la ciudad de Gaza. La IDF confirmó que la esquadra fue enviada en el área. Fue tirada de la gama de Hamas que fue atrapada por soldados desde la entrada del hospital. La operación IDF para eliminar la intensidad de Hamas con tropas, también encontrando una caza de gama, armas y explosiones. Las batallas de gama se rompieron entre las fuerzas israelías y la gama de Hamas en el hospital de Shifa, que está ubicada en el centro de el Centro de Comandos Terraria. Israel dice que se ofrece un pasaje seguro para los que quieren ir. También dice que Hamas ha atrapado el hospital de recibir una desplazamiento de fuel. Y en el norte, la IDF confirmó que una esquadra enviada fue enviada en el área de la comunidad norte de Natua con tropas que respondieron con la desplazamiento de la artillería. Antes, algunos 18 motos fueron atrapados de Lebanon en la zona norte de Sirens de la rama de Arapala. La IDF dice que todos los proyectiles fueron atrapados en las áreas openas. Sin embargo, 239 hostes aún están atrapados por el grupo terraria dentro de Gaza. Y el Centro de Comandos Terraria ha atrapado el hospital de recibir un pasaje seguro para las que quieren ir. Y en el norte, la IDF confirmó que se atrapó el hospital de recibir un pasaje seguro para los que quieren ir. Entonces, ¿Qué es el caso de las personas que están atrapadas en el norte de Israel? ¿Qué es el caso de la gente que está atrapada en el norte de Israel? ¿Qué es el caso de la gente que está atrapada en el norte de Israel? April 60 Despite Tudo la información, por brobo, columna local. Hablecan la información para la atención. Pero, yo sea al inversor el Literal Mutual, installing un slide este mañana con el Elico y Israel, el ministro de la Comunidad de Israel, será capaz de llegar más a la distancia con eso, más tarde en el broadcast y en las próximas horas, pero en tu pregunta, porque se relaciona directamente con algo que el ministro de la Comunidad de Israel dijo, él cree que Israel solo tiene dos a tres semanas de legitimidad diplomática para el tipo de intensidad de la pelea que estamos viendo ahora en Gaza. Esto es una pieza con lo que hemos escuchado, en Israel y en el exterior durante las últimas semanas, así que no viene como una sorpresa real, pero esto es la pensión en las circunstancias israelías que el tiempo en termos diplomáticos, el tiempo diplomático de la glacia, usar esa metáfora de la sand, ir a la glacia a la parte superior de la glacia que es usada en estas situaciones aquí en Israel, que ese tiempo es mucho más corto que el tiempo en el militar, lo ideal es querer llevar sus operaciones en Gaza a máximo efecto y a mínimo impacto a los civiles y a los soldados israelíos. Así que eso es lo que el ministro de la Comunidad de Israel no necesita ver que hay mucha presión en Israel ahora mismo y todavía se siente que hay una gran cantidad de legitimidad para Israel, tanto en la opinión pública internacional y en los halls de poder, pero se ve una elevación de presión en Israel y la expectación de que eso continue a crecer durante los próximos meses y llegue al punto en el que Israel no podrá resistir más, por ejemplo, uno podría imaginar desde la administración de la Biden llamando por un incendio, por ejemplo, es un tipo de fin de juego para esa glacia diplomática, es el final de la glacia de la sand, ir a la glacia. Yo personalmente no sé la opinión. Tengo un poco de una opinión diferente en esto, pero esta es la opinión que viene de la Comunidad de Israel y el ministro de la Comunidad de Israel, por supuesto, es una pieza con lo que hemos visto en términos de los líderes, los reportes y los comentarios aquí en Israel y en el mundo. Hablámos sobre las preocupaciones alrededor de países que pueden elegir las relaciones con Israel en la línea, dependiendo de cómo la guerra se despliega. Bueno, eso también fue en el briefing también, 8 países que han tomado los pasos either to break ties with Israel or to bring ambassadors home for consultations or otherwise, of those, the foreign minister expects that two to three will actually return their ambassadors in the days or weeks to come. So in optimistic view, coming out of the Israeli foreign minister. Also, there is a watch list of 13 to 14 other countries that are on the fence, if you will, to potentially break ties or withdraw ambassadors and the foreign ministry is doing what it can, working with the prime minister, con el presidente de Israel para intentar evitar eso suceder. Así que, de nuevo, un trabajo intensivo para intentar mantener el daño, si queréis, en el daño de las relaciones de Israel. Creo que había una expectación en el principio de que una operación militar, como esta, al menos entre ciertos circunstancias de países en el mundo aéreo y entre los gobiernos de left-wing en Latinoamérica, por ejemplo, que se hubiera llevado a los reacciones que hemos visto, pero, de nuevo, el ministro de la Comunidad ha hecho lo que puede, para intentar minimizar el daño y ver que es uno de sus principales goals en los últimos meses y en los meses para venir. Honing, específicamente, en los acords de Abraham y los aliados del golf, así que, ¿qué ha sido hecho por tan lejos? Es solo de 5 semanas en la reacción. Vamos a comenzar con los Emiratos Unidos de la Unidad y el Reino de Bach, los signos iniciales de los acords de Abraham a lo que se está enfocando ahora mismo. Bueno, y esto, por supuesto, va beyond el briefing, ¿verdad? Creo que hemos visto los acords de Abraham, por lo largo, Benita, estando en la prueba de tiempo. Los acords de Abraham están still intactos. Las relaciones están still intactas. Obviamente, Israel no le gusta todos los comentarios que vienen de los capitales de Arabia, pero no todo de eso ha sido negativo, no todo de eso ha sido negativo para el Hamas. Hemos visto la UAE salir, ¿verdad? Y condemnar las cosas que el Hamas ha hecho y condemnar los masacores de octubre. Entonces, hay muchas cosas que están bienvenidas a los israelíos. Hay signos de promesión, por ejemplo, en el álbum, el álbum reportado de la suma en Riyadh por la semana, que algunos de los más extremos que muchos de esos gobiernos querían llevar contra Israel reportadamente fueron detrás de Saudi Arabia y de otros. Entonces, hay razón para el optimismo. Y, por supuesto, cuando viene a Saudi Arabia, no estando en la mano, con el iraní y el presidente Abraham Risi, que no es un bienvenido a nadie aquí en Israel, creo que todavía hay un sentido de optimismo sobre el término medio sobre el potencial de la normalización para regresar en tránsito. He dicho esto a mí mismo, he dicho esto desde los días de la guerra, cuando otras personas no lo dicen, que el lógico detrás de la normalización y las razones por las que Mohamed bin Salman lo vería como en su interés para ir adelante y enviar la costa, pero de su perspectiva esencial que la normalización de Israel lo enviaría, eso es muy mucho still intacto. Es obviamente más difícil que antes de la guerra, más costa que antes de la guerra, pero en un sentido, los costos son la razón de tomar el paso en el primer lugar. Así que creo que hay un sentido de que hay una razón para hacer eso. Y lo que hemos escuchado que viene de Saudi Arabia, incluido desde el ministro durante las últimas semanas, creo que lo confirmará. Senador, correspondiente diplomático, Owen Ultiman, gracias como siempre para tu insight. Ahora, vamos a encontrar lo que está pasando en el grado, vamos a nuestro correspondiente, Zac Anders. Él nos acompaña desde el sur de Israel. Y sabemos que el IDF confirmó, Zac, que el escuelo terrorista enviado en el área del hospital del Al Quds en la ciudad de Gaza, ha sido eliminado. Dime más, ¿qué es conocido sobre lo que está pasando ahora, en términos de la pelea dentro de la zona de Gaza? Así es, y eso ha sido la línea de la última 24 horas. Estos celos terroristas dentro y alrededor del hospital, los compoundos de la zona de Gaza. Ahora, debería decir que la mayoría de la fokus en las últimas 24 horas ha sido alrededor del hospital, el hospital de Shifa, cerca del costo, dentro de la ciudad de Gaza. Han estado comunicando, el IDF ha estado comunicando con los doctores directamente, llamando a ellos por sus celos personales y explicando la situación a ellos, explicando cuáles son las horas para el cordón humanitario. El cordón humanitario va hacia el costo de la costa, así que podríamos conseguir eso del hospital. El IDF ha tenido que asegurar varias estrellas que están llevando al cordón humanitario. Ellos están diciendo a los doctores para evacuar a los pacientes de esta manera. Los doctores, aparentemente, están diciendo al IDF, bueno, no podemos. Vamos a quedar con nuestros pacientes. Ellos están tan cansados. Ellos están tan inundados. Y eso ha sido el tono de estas conversaciones. Por lo tanto, ha sido un desfuelo. El IDF dice que se ha podido dar un desfuelo a ese hospital, pero luego se ha clarificado. Ellos creen que ese desfuelo que están intentando poder llevar a los pacientes para esos pacientes que están en los neonatalores que esperaban que eso iría a ese esfuerzo para mantener a esos pacientes vivos. El IDF se refiere que ese desfuelo fue tomado por Hamas y usado por otras propuestas. Y aún así, reportes de los policías que se han enviado a Israel en la terrestre antes en el día. Siren suelto en El Storot y Ibn, ¿qué noticias puedes compartir en esa frontera? Bueno, he escuchado de varias sources que la tolerancia para algunos de estos desfuelos ha alcanzado su punto de desfuelo que el IDF se ha tomado en el desfuelo todo a través del Gaza Strip y en particular ahora, en el sur de Gaza Strip o algunos de los desfuelos en los primeros stages de la guerra fueron menos enfocados porque decían, de nuevo, que la gente de Gaza se desfueló desde el norte de la Strip hasta el sur de la Strip así que el primer enfoque en el principio de esta campaña con los estrellas y la artillería fueron enfocados en el norte de la Strip y eliminando algunos de esos desfuelos. Ahora, parece que se va a desfuelar hacia el sur. Pero eso que he dicho sobre mi desfuelo puedes ver un gran cantidad de desfuelo en el desfuelo y esto es desfuelo que se ha tomado desde los estrellas que continuan y lo que estaba haciendo es moltamente croquisitaros en los setteados y lejan a la gente que cada vez se empieza una una receta que es muy difícil encontrar en los estrellas que se van a desfuelar y se han tomado un gran countererco que tiene una gran cantidad de desfuelos que en el sleeve se van a desfuelar y un gran número de desfuelos que tienen una gran cantidad que se van a desfuelar y fue til lento. porque eso ha sido el primer foco de evacuación y las ciudad y la ciudad que están varios kilopetales por bisschen ha sido ver como ustedes esperan o no respetan los eller los piちゃ na n para que la gente quiera acceder a lo que estaba en sus hogares y en sus vidas, intentando regresar. La IDF está tomando claro que eso no es una cosa segura para hacer en este momento, y se preguntan, de nuevo, las personas para encontrar una acombidación más allá. Correspondente, Zach Anders, vivo desde el sur de Israel. Gracias por las noticias. No hay nada más para venir de Zach en las próximas horas. Y aún conmigo en el estudio, nuestro señor correspondiente diplomático, Owen Ultiman. Y vamos a estar empacando más de la reacción diplomática de ese briefing que lo anunciaste antes, un poco más tarde, en el show. Espere con nosotros, Owen. Tenemos mucho más que discutir. Pero ahora mismo, nos invitamos, Gidon Saar, miembro de la Cámara de Seguridad en el gobierno de la emergencia y ministro de la justicia, nos acompañan de Jerusalem. Muchas gracias por tu tiempo. Ahora, ha sido más de cinco semanas. Gracias por invitarme, Gidon Saar. Gracias. Ha sido más de cinco semanas, como usted well-know, desde que el Hamas está ensalado en el sur de Israel, se preocupa ahora mismo al norte, como para que el Hassan Nasrallah sea completamente involucrado. ¿Puede que Israel conduzca una pre-empatia contra Hezbollah? ¿Puede que Israel pre-empatia en el primero y pre-carta? No, decidimos, en el Cabinet de Seguridad, para concentrarse en la frontera del sur, en la defensa de Hamas, regresar a nuestros hostes, volver a casa, y la defensa de Hamas, eliminando sus capacidades de gobierno y militar. Y eso es lo que estamos haciendo durante los últimos cinco semanas. Estamos listos en el norte y estamos reaccionando a cada provocación de Hezbollah. Hacemos decisivamente y hacemos lo que tenemos que hacer, pero no tenemos intención de iniciar una guerra completa en el norte. Por supuesto, puede suceder y nos prepararemos para hacer lo que tenemos que hacer si eso sucederá, pero no es nuestro objetivo. Hacemos un comentario de los hostes, por supuesto, en la mente de todos en el país, pero Israel ha hecho claro que no habrá cifras hasta que los hostes se relevan. Ahora, hay reportes de un posible caso sobre la relevancia de mujeres, no todos los hostes. ¿Para que los prisioneros palestinianos se relevan si viene a eso? ¿Qué es tu forma de hacer lo mejor para asegurar la frecuencia de todos los hostes? No voy a entrar en los detalles de lo que es posible. No creo que haya ayuda para llevar a uno de los hostes o soldados de la casa, pero vamos a hacer nuestros esfuerzos en todos los truques posibles para obtener nuestras personas de la casa. Lo que Hamas ha hecho, por supuesto, son crimes de la guerra. Son niños de 9 meses, son niños pequeños, son personas de 85, 86 años, son horribles, son increíbles, pero no es sorprendente a alguien que sabe esta organización de asociación y sus objetivos. Estamos convirtidos a llevar a la casa nuestros hostes y estamos concentrados en hacer eso. Por supuesto, es algo que la whole nation está esperando ahora mismo. Vamos a ver el día después en Gaza cuando la guerra es terminada. ¿Qué tipo de involucración de seguridad debería Israel tener? Y ¿qué decirles a los que creen que la autoridad palestiniana podría ser involucrada realísticamente? ¿Qué piensas? Creo que estamos, por supuesto, pensando y conozcando con este problema, pero creo que es realmente demasiado tarde para hablar el día después que estamos ahora mismo en el medio de la guerra. Se continuará por un tiempo. Estamos decisivos de conocer nuestros objetivos, nuestros objetivos y esto es lo más importante ahora mismo. Sobre la autoridad palestiniana tenemos aquí algunas preguntas realísticas. Primero, si la P.A., que no es muy capaz de controlar su territorio en Judea y Samaria como en la Genia, por ejemplo, ¿cómo pueden controlar la Gaza? Parece que, primero, no es tan realística. Y la segunda cosa es el problema moral que tenemos con una autoridad que paga dinero a los murderers o a las familias de los terroristas según los crimes que hicieron, una autoridad que está conduciendo incitamento en una gran escala, en sus escuelas, en sus textos. Y esto es algo que es muy severo, porque ya es poesina la nueva generación. Creo que, hablando del día después, debemos pensar de una manera cómo construir una nueva generación sin esta poesina, sin este hatred, sin estas creencias para matar los juzes y la destrucción del juicio. Y no estoy seguro que la autoridad palestiniana es el right partner para hacer eso, según nuestra experiencia con la autoridad palestiniana durante los últimos 30 años. ¿Quién es el right person o entidad o nación para ser involucrado en algún tipo de transición en ese momento? Es una cosa que tenemos todo para pensar sobre. Por supuesto, tenemos a nuestros negros que nos gustaría ser también partners para soluciones como los egipcios o tal vez los saoristas y otros naciones que nos gustaría ser partners al día después de los esfuerzos reconstruyendo Gaza Strip o intentando ayudar a construir un futuro diferente para Gaza Strip. Nosotros seguramente tendremos que esperar. ¿Continúa? ¿Continúa? No, por supuesto tenemos que pensar sobre nuestros partners regionales y, últimamente, tenemos que pensar sobre los partners locales dentro de Gaza Strip. Pero yo diría que deben ser partners que no fueron involucrados en el pasado en terror y incitement. Nosotros seguramente tendremos que esperar para ver los partners relícados en ese proceso. Como dices, es un rato en el río. Una cuestión emocional. ¿Qué piensas podría suceder después de la guerra en Guzcatif? La armadura israelí ha removido 8600 residentes de sus hogares en Augusto de 2005. Los comunes fueron demolidos como parte de la desengagement unilateral de Gaza. ¿Qué es tu respuesta a la causa ahora mismo? Muchos propiedades los juicios van a resettlar después de la guerra. ¿Puedes apoyar a estas causas? Primero, esto es lo más increíble. Para pensar que nuestros enemigos en Gaza Strip hicieron todo, todo lo hicieron después de lo que hicimos totalmente 18 años atrás desde Gaza Strip took out all our communities, our settlements, our military bases, even the graves were taken out at that time. And it just demonstrates how much we had an enemy that is concentrated more on the hatred towards Israel and its dreams to eliminate Israel then in the future of its own people. With regard to your question, I must tell you that as a young MK at the time, I opposed the disengagement from Gaza Strip when it came in the year of 2004 to the Plenium to vote. I thought it's not wise to do such a dramatic step in a unilateral way. And I think time had taught us that it was really a mistake as I thought at then. But I'm not sure it is realistic today to say the least to think about rebuilding our settlements in Guzhkotiv. I think we have other objectives there and it is not part of the objectives that the security cabinet had drawn. I want to move on to the many questions that still exist into the massive intelligence failure from the 7th of October. The Washington Post reporting today that Hamas terrorists had planned to reach the West Bank. In doing so, they would have united the two Palestinian friends as the former Justice Minister. When should there be an investigation that should look into this and what should it look like? A state inquiry, a government inquiry? ¿Cuáles son tus ideas? We will have to investigate deeply what happened that brought us to this catastrophe of October 7 with all the relevant dimensions, policy, operational, intelligence. And we will have to do it after the war. Y no creo que es constructivo ahora cuando todos nuestros esfuerzos son para meter nuestros objetivos en el campo de la batalla para llevarnos a nuestros hostes para hacer el día de hoy con estas investigaciones. Puedo asegurarles que vamos a hacer lo que necesita después de la guerra para aprender cada loco que la nación necesita para aprender después de este horrible octubre 7. Es cierto que es y es un tiempo emocional para todos a través del espectáculo también. Pero si va a ser encontrado fue la luna de la inteligencia la estabilización de la defensa, la demanda de la cadena, lo que es y si es correcto va a tomar tiempo, la investigación va a desplazarse. Hay uno de los captores de la batalla. ¿Pero Benjamin Netanyahu necesita tener responsabilidad? ¿Puede vivir políticamente después de esta guerra? No, no lo haré. En cualquier forma, con las políticas de hoy. En octubre 7, yo era en la oposición. Y durante este Shabbat, decidí inmediatamente que no tendríamos como patriotes israelíos ninguna otra alternativa en vez de joining el gobierno y en este tiempo difícil para nuestra nación y para nuestro país. Así que ahora no es el tiempo para hablar con las políticas. Ahora mismo, estamos trabajando juntos, como los soldados están lutando juntos en el Gaza Strip. Estamos trabajando juntos para hacer lo mejor para nuestro país en sus momentos difíciles. Muy brevemente, solo tenemos unos momentos más. Esta es una nación en trauma, claramente una situación emocional para todos. ¿Qué es el mensaje que tienes para el futuro en términos de hablar con la nación? ¿Qué mensaje compartirás ahora mismo? El mensaje que voy a dar es la importancia de la unidad. Es algo que podemos encontrar en estos días en una forma increíble entre nuestros soldados. La determinación para encontrar y hacer lo que necesita para arreglar la vida. En order to meet the objectives that we put this war in Gaza. It is something which should cause us a lot of pride. And the lesson everywhere is the unity of our people. As much as our fighters, our soldiers, our sons are fighting together. Let's do it in the national level. Let's do it as brothers and sisters. Let's do it in the political level. This is the most important thing that gives us strength during these tough days. Israeli minister and member of the security cabinet in the emergency government. Get on sir, live from Jerusalem. Thank you very much for speaking to us on I24 News. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. And still with me in studio, al senior diplomatica correspondent, Owen Ultiman, he covered a lot of ground. Your main takeaway is briefly. Right. Well, a couple of things. First of all, to me, the headline, Benito, was at the top. You asked him about the northern front. Maybe the clearest statement yet about the security cabinet's decision, right, saying we have decided to focus on the south. Of course, it's of a piece what we've heard across the board from Israeli leaders. It's not really surprising, but Benjamin Netanyahu, including in comments he made over the last two hours, tends to dance around this issue more. Guido Ansar went right at it, right? There is no focus on the north right now because we decided on the south. That is the clearest statement I've heard. As for the Palestinian Authority, listen carefully to what all of them are saying. I know my analysis goes against the grain, but there is an opening for the Palestinian Authority into Gaza in the long term. Even if you look carefully at what Israeli policymakers are saying, they're driving a very, very hard bargain. Not clear the Palestinian Authority has the ability or the willingness, really, to meet those terms. But the terms are there. And if the Biden administration wants to push the PA hard enough, I think it might happen over the long term. And again, if you have very, very close reading and close listening of what's being said. Senior Diplomatic Correspondent, Owen Ultiman, thank you so much, always appreciate your insights. And that is a wrap for this edition of our breaking news coverage. I'm Benita Levine Intelavev. Thank you for watching. Stay tuned. This is I-24 News. Is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where she is. Our soldiers are fighting on the front lines. But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well. Not just the Jewish community. News edition. I'm Benita Levine coming to you live from Tel Aviv. Day 38 of the war, a Hamas terrorist squad eliminated near the Elkouds Hospital in Gaza City. The IDF confirming the terrorist squad was embedded in the area. It was taken out after Hamas gunmen fired at IDF soldiers from the hospital entrance. The IDF operation to eliminate Hamas intensifies with troops also finding an underwater cache of Hamas weapons and explosives. Heavy gun battles erupting between Israeli forces and Hamas gunmen outside Shifa Hospital, which is located above the terror group's command center. Israel saying it's offered safe passage to those wanting to leave. It also says Hamas had stopped the hospital from receiving a delivery of fuel. And in the north, the IDF confirming an anti-tank guided missile was fired from Lebanon at an area near the northern community of Natua troops responding with artillery shelling. Now, earlier, some 18 mortars were fired from Lebanon, setting off sirens in the northern village of Arab al-Ramshem, the IDF saying all the projectiles landed in open areas. Meanwhile, 239 hostages are still being held by the terror group inside Gaza. A senior Hamas official seems to be ruling out the possibility of a partial exchange of hostages saying it wants a complete exchange of all Hamas prisoners in Israeli jails. And another development confirmation being released for publication that a terror attack was thwarted in Tel Aviv early this month. Two suspects were arrested near the central train station 11 days ago. Details are only being revealed now for security reasons. And now for more, we welcome to Studio, our senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Ultiman. So Owen, many developments on the ground in the north in the south inside the Gaza Strip right now, but also on the diplomatic front as well. What updates can you share in terms of diplomatic reaction to what is unfolding right now as the war is in its day 38? Right, well, Benita, we had a briefing earlier this morning with Eli Cohen, Israel's foreign minister. We'll be able to get more into depth with that later on in the broadcast and over the next few hours. But going to your question, because it relates directly to something the foreign minister said, he believes Israel only has two to three weeks of diplomatic legitimacy for the kind of intensity of the fighting that we're seeing right now in Gaza. This is of a piece with what we've been hearing both in Israel and outside over the course of the last two weeks. So it doesn't come as any real surprise, but this is the thinking in senior Israeli circles that the time in diplomatic terms, the diplomatic hourglass, to use that metaphor of the sand going through the glass into the lower side that's often used in these situations here in Israel, that that timing is much shorter than the timing that the military would ideally want to carry out its operations in Gaza to maximum effect and to minimum impact on civilians and on Israeli soldiers themselves. So that's how the foreign minister sees it. He doesn't necessarily see there being a lot of pressure in Israel right now and still feels like there's a strong amount of legitimacy for Israel, both in international public opinion and in the halls of power, but does see a rising power, a rising level of pressure on Israel and the expectation that that will continue to grow over the next few weeks and get to the point where Israel won't be able to resist it anymore. It'll come, for example, one would imagine from the Biden administration itself calling for a ceasefire, for example, as a kind of end game for that diplomatic hourglass as the final grains of sand go through. Now I should say I personally don't share this opinion. I have a bit of a different opinion on this, but this is the opinion coming from the foreign minister. Beneath, of course, it's of a piece with what we've seen both in terms of the leaders themselves and reports and commentary here en Israel and abroad. Talk to us about the concerns around countries that may choose to break relations with Israel down the line, depending on how this war unfolds. Well, that was actually also in the briefing as well, right? Eight countries that have taken steps either to break ties with Israel or to bring ambassadors home for consultations or otherwise. Of those, the foreign minister expects that two to three will actually return their ambassadors in the days or weeks to come. So an optimistic view coming out of the Israeli foreign minister. Also, there is a watch list of 13 to 14 other countries that are on the fence, if you will, to potentially break ties or withdraw ambassadors. And the foreign ministry is doing what it can, working with the prime minister, working with Israel's president to try to prevent that from happening. So again, intensive work to try to keep the dam, if you will, on the damage to Israel's foreign relations. I think there was an expectation at the beginning that a military operation like this, at least among certain circles of countries in the Arab world and among left-wing governments in Latin America, for example, that it would lead to the kinds of reactions that we've seen. But again, the foreign ministry doing what it can to try to minimize the damage and seeing that it's one of its main goals over the past month and in the month to come. Honing in specifically on the Abraham Accords and Gulf Allies, so to speak, what has been made so far? It's just over five weeks in of the reaction. Let's start with United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, the initial signatories to the Abraham Accords to what is unfolding right now. Well, and this, of course, is going beyond the briefing, right? I think we've seen the Abraham Accords, by and large, Benita, stand the test of time. The Abraham Accords are still intact. The relationships are still intact. Obviously, Israel doesn't love all of the comments coming out of Arab capitals. But not all of it has been entirely negative. Not all of it has been entirely to Hamas's side. We've seen the UAE come out and condemn things that Hamas has done and condemn the October 7th massacres. So there are lots of things that are welcome to Israeli ears. There are promising signs, right? If you look, for example, at the outcome, the reported outcome of the summit in Riyadh over the weekend, that some of the more extreme steps that many of those governments had wanted to take against Israel reportedly were stopped by Saudi Arabia and by others. So there is reason for optimism. And of course, when it comes to Saudi Arabia itself, notwithstanding the handshake with Iranian President Abraham Ricci, which certainly isn't a welcome site to anyone here in Israel. I think still a sense of optimism over the medium term about the potential for normalization to get back on track. I've said it myself, I've said it since the opening days of the war, when other people weren't saying it, that the logic behind normalization and the reasons why Mohammed bin Salman would see it as being in his interest to go forward and send the costly, but from his perspective, essential signal that normalization of Israel would send. That's very much still intact. It's obviously harder than it was before the war, more costly than it was before the war. But in a sense, the costs are the reason for taking the step in the first place. So I think that I sense that there's still strong reason for him to do so. And what we've heard coming out of Saudi Arabia, including from a minister over the last few weeks, I think largely confirms that take. Senor, diplomat, correspondent Owen Altman, thank you as always for your insight. Right now, let's find out what is happening on the ground. We go to our correspondent Zach Anders. He joins us from southern Israel. And we know the IDF confirming Zach, that terrorist squad embedded in the area of the Elkwoods Hospital in Gaza City has been eliminated. Tell us more, what is known about what is happening right now in terms of fighting inside the Gaza Strip? Right. And that's been the headline of the last 24 hours. These terrorist cells inside and around the hospital compounds throughout the Gaza Strip. Now I should say that the majority of the focus in the last 24 hours has been around the hospital, Shifa Hospital near the coast inside Gaza City. They've been communicating. The IDF has been communicating with doctors directly, calling them on their personal cell phones and explaining the situation to them, explaining when the hours are for the humanitarian corridor. The humanitarian corridor runs south along a coastal road. So be able to get that from the hospital. The IDF has had to secure several streets leading to the humanitarian corridor. So they're telling the doctors to evacuate your patients this way. The doctors apparently are telling the IDF, well, we can't. We're going to stay with our patients. They're too sick. They're too injured. And that has been the tone of these conversations so far. There's been fuel delivered. The IDF says they were able to deliver some fuel to that hospital. But then they later clarified they think that that fuel that they were trying to get to be able to run the incubators for those infants that are on in the neonatal wards that they were hoping that that would go to that effort to keep those infants alive. The IDF fears that that fuel was taken by Hamas and used for other purposes. And still reports of rockets being sent into Israeli territory earlier on in the day. Siren sounding in Storot and Ibn, what update can you share on that front? Well, I'm hearing from several sources that the tolerance for some of these launch strikes has reached its breaking point that the IDF has heavily invested in targeting the launch sites all throughout the Gaza Strip. And in particular now in the southern Gaza Strip where some of the strikes in the early stages of the war were less focused because they were telling again the people of Gaza to flee from the north of the strip to the south of the strip. So the primary focus in the beginning of this campaign with the air strikes and the artillery were focused on the northern strip and eliminating some of those launch sites. Now it appears to be shifting to the south, but that that that said over my shoulder, you see quite a heavy amount of dust in the air. And this is dust that's being picked up from the strikes that continue to hit heavily. Locations in the northern Gaza Strip bet hanoon again is over my shoulder and it is seeing more relentless strikes throughout this afternoon. And so give us an idea of the communities that might still be close to the border right now. Many have evacuated in recent weeks. What update is there on the number of families that might still be close to where that rocket fire was happening earlier on in the day? Well, it really depends on how close the location is to the fence with the strip because that has been the primary focus of evacuation and these cities and towns that are several miles further away have been seen. Some people either stay or return. There are shops that we've noticed have been closed for weeks that are now starting to open up back up again. So it does appear that a lot of folks are trying to access what was once their homes and their lives trying to get back. The IDF is making clear that that is not a safe thing to do at this point. And they're asking again the people to find accommodation elsewhere. Correspondent, Zach Anders live from Southern Israel. Thank you so much for that update. Stay safe. More to come from Zach in the coming hours and still with me in studio our senior diplomatic correspondent, Owen Ultiman. And we're going to be unpacking more of the diplomatic reaction from that briefing that you alluded to earlier on a little bit later on in the show. Stay with us, Owen. We've got much more to discuss. But right now we welcome Gidon Saar, member of the security cabinet in the emergency government and former minister of justice joining us from Jerusalem. Thank you so much for your time. Now it's been more than five weeks. Thank you for inviting. Good evening. Thank you. It's been more than five weeks, as you well know, since the Hamas terror onslaught in southern Israel. Worries right now up north as to whether Hassan Nasralla will get fully involved. Should Israel conduct a preemptive strike against Hezbollah? Should Israel strike their first and strike hard? No, we decided in the security cabinet to concentrate on the southern front, on defeating Hamas, returning our hostages back home and the defeating Hamas eliminating its governmental and military capabilities. And that's what we're doing over the last five weeks. We are ready in the north and we are reacting to every provocation of Hezbollah. We act decisively and we do what we have to do. But we don't have an intention to initiate a full scale war in the north. Of course, it can happen and we will be ready and prepared to do what we need to do if that will happen. But it is not our objective. You made mention of the hostages of course, top of mind for everyone in the country. But Israel has made it clear there will be no ceasefire until the hostages are released. Now there are these reports of a possible deal involving the release of women, not all the hostages. Should Palestinian prisoners be released if it comes to that? What is your take on the best way to secure the freedom of all the hostages? I will not get into details of what kind of possible deal you can have. I don't think it helps to bring even one kidnapped citizen or a soldier back home. But we will do our efforts in all possible tracks in order to get our people back home. What Hamas did, of course, is war crimes. They kidnapped babies of nine months. They kidnapped little children. They kidnapped old people, 85, 86 years old. It's horrible. It's unbelievable. But it's not a surprise to anyone who know this murderous organization and its objectives. We are committed to bring to bring back home our hostages and we are concentrated on doing so. Certainly something the whole nation is hoping for right now. Let's take a look at the day after in Gaza when this war is over. What kind of security involvement should Israel have? And what do you say to those suggesting the Palestinian authority could be involved realistically? Your thoughts. I think we are, of course, thinking and dealing with this issue, but I think it's really too early to speak on the day after we are right now in the middle of a war. It will continue for a while. We are decisive to meet our objectives, our goals. And this is the most important thing right now about the Palestinian Authority. We have here some realistic questions. First of all, whether the PA, which is not very capable to control over its territory in Judea and Samaria, like in Gini, for example, how they can control Gaza Strip? It seems, first of all, just not so realistic. Second thing is the moral problem we have with an authority that pay money to murderers or to families of terrorists according to the crimes they did, an authority that is conducting incitement in large scale in its schools, in its textbooks. And this is something that is very severe because it's already poisoning the new generation. I think speaking about the day after, we must think of a way how to build a new generation without this poison, without this hatred, without these beliefs to kill Jews and destruction of the Jewish state. And I'm not sure the Palestinian Authority es el right partner para hacer eso según nuestra experiencia con la autoridad palestiniana durante los últimos 30 años. So, who is the right person or entity or nation to be involved in some kind of transition period then? It's a heavy thing that we are a heavy thing to think about. Of course, we have our Arab neighbors which we would like to be also partners to solutions like the Egyptians or maybe the Saudis and other nations that would like to be partners to the day after efforts reconstructing a Gaza Strip or trying to help build a different future for Gaza Strip. We certainly will have to wait. Continue? Now, of course, we will have to think about our regional partners and ultimately we will have to think about local partners inside Gaza Strip but I would say they must be partners which were not involved in the past in terror and incitement. We certainly are going to have to wait to see reliable partners in that process. As you say, it's a while down the line. An emotional issue now. What do you think could happen after the war in Gush Katif? The Israeli army removed 8600 Jewish residents from their homes back in August of 2005. Those communities were demolished as part of the unilateral disengagement from Gaza. What is your response to the cause right now? Many suggesting Jews go back to resettle there after the war. Do you support these calls? First of all, this is the most amazing thing to think that our enemies in Gaza Strip did all they did after we withdrew totally 18 years ago from Gaza Strip took out all our communities, our settlements, our military bases even the graves were taken out at that time and it just demonstrates how much we had an enemy that is concentrated more on the hatred towards Israel and its dreams to eliminate Israel then in the future of its own people. Con respecto a tu pregunta must I tell you that as a young M.K. at the time I opposed disengagement from Gaza Strip when it came in the year of 2004 to the Plenium to vote I thought it's not wise to do such a dramatic step in a unilateral way and I think time had taught us that it was really a mistake as I thought then but I'm not sure it is realistic today to say the least to think about rebuilding our settlements in Gush Kutif I think we have other objectives there and it is not part of the objectives that the security cabinet had drawn. I want to move on to the many questions that still exist into the massive intelligence failure from the 7th of October the Washington Post reporting today that Hamas terrorists had planned to reach the West Bank in doing so they would have united the two Palestinian friends as the former Justice Minister when should there be an investigation to look into this and what should it look like a state inquiry a government inquiry your thoughts We will have to investigate deeply what happened that brought us to this catastrophe of October 7 with all the relevant dimensions policy operational intelligence and we will have to do it after the war and I don't think it is constructive right now when all efforts are to meet our objectives in the battlefield to bring back our hostages to deal today with these investigations I can assure you that we will do whatever is needed after the war to learn every lesson that the nation needs to learn after this horrible October 7 It certainly is and it's an emotional time for everyone across the spectrum as well but whether it is going to be found it was the intelligence echelon the defense establishment the chain of command whatever it is and you're right it will take time the investigation will unfold there is one captain of the ship Does Benjamin Netanyahu need to take responsibility regardless can he survive politically after this war I will not deal in any way with politics today on October 7 I was in the opposition and during this Shabbat I decided immediately that we don't have as an Israeli Patriots any other alternative rather than join the government and in this hard time for our nation and for our country so right now it's not the time to deal with politics right now we are working together like the soldiers are fighting together inside Gaza Strip we are working together in order to do the best for our country in its hard moments Very briefly we only have a few moments left this is a nation in trauma clearly emotional situation for everybody what is the message you have for the future in terms of speaking to the nation what message would you share right now The message I will send is the importance of unity it is something that we can find these days in an amazing way among our soldiers the determination to find and to do whatever is needed to risk their life in order to meet the objectives that we put this war in Gaza it is something which should cause us a lot of pride and the lesson everywhere is the unity of our people as much as our fighters our soldiers our sons are fighting together let's do it in the national level let's do it as brothers and sisters let's do it in the political level this is the most important thing that gives us strength during these tough days Israeli minister and member of the security cabinet in the emergency government Thank you very much for speaking to us on i24 news thank you thank you so much thank you and still with me in studio our senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Ultiman he covered a lot of ground your main take away briefly Right, well a couple things First of all to me the headline Bernita was at the top you asked him about the northern front Por supuesto, es una pieza de lo que hemos escuchado a través de los líderes israelíos. No es muy sorprendente, pero el Benjamin Netanyahu, incluido en la conversa que hicimos durante las últimas dos horas, tendrán que bailar sobre esta asociación. Giton Tsar murió en la parte correcta. No hay fócus en el norte ahora, porque decidimos. Eso es lo más claro que he escuchado. Como para la autoridad palestiniana, escucha lo que todos ellos dicen. Sé que mi analisis va contra el grano, pero no hay una opción para la autoridad palestiniana en el largo termo. Incluso si se vea muy bien lo que los palestinistas israelíos dicen, están escribiendo un barro muy muy difícil, no es tan claro que la autoridad palestiniana tiene la habilidad o la habilidad de conocer esos términos, pero los términos están ahí. Y si la administración de la Biedad quiere pushing el P.A. difícil, creo que puede suceder en el largo termo. Y si, si hay una muy, muy próxima receta y una próxima escuchación de lo que se ha dicho. Y si hay una muy próxima receta y una próxima receta y una próxima escuchación de lo que se ha dicho. La correspondencia de todo el mundo trae la verdad de Israel a cientos de millones de personas en escuelas de países. De la frontera que se separa Israel, el estado de emergencia y la guerra en Israel. Abre la historia de Israel a el mundo. I-24 News Channels, ahora en hot. Israel está en un estado de guerra. Las familias son completamente descuidadas en sus bares. No tengo idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well. Can be watching I-24 News, we're coming to you live from Tel Aviv on this day, 38 of Israel's war with Hamas and Hamas terrorists fired heavy weapons at Israeli troops from inside the Al Quds Hospital in Gaza City earlier, the IDF says the cell has now been eliminated as Israeli troops surround the city's largest hospital, that's Shifa, according to Hamas and the UN, around half of the patients and healthcare workers have left, hundreds remain inside. The EU has condemned Hamas for using hospitals and civilians as human shields and in the north a 56 year old electricity engineer has died after yesterday's attack by Hezbollah on northern Israel. El Ambuli es el tercer israeli civilián que ha sido matado por el grupo desde octubre 7. Por más de la situación en el norte, podemos cruzar ahora al norte de Israel, nuestro correspondiente Nikol Zedek está estando por y Nikol, como he mencionado, es el tercer civilián que fue matado por Hezbollah que ha sido llamada hoy. Exactamente, Laura, y ahora estamos escuchando desde el primer ministro Benjamin Netanyahu cuando continuamos a ver estos ataques aumentados de Hezbollah, está enviando un mensaje que dice que Hezbollah y todos estos otros teléfonos que aumentan su actividad, están jugando con fuego, y dice que ese fuego estará metido con un fuerte fuego de Israel. Así que dice todo lo que estamos viendo en el norte de la frontera, esto es solo parte de la capacidad militar de Israel, y están preparados y preparados, en sus palabras, para que estén más difíciles si continuamos a ver este aumento de la frecuencia militar en el norte de la frontera. Ahora, el ministro Benjamin Netanyahu, cuáles son los anuncios de la IDF, también confirmaron que se construyeron varios sites militares de Hezbollah a través de hoy, diferentes depós de armas, y también centros de comandos en el norte de Lebanon. Ahora, la IDF dice exactamente dónde son esos sites de Hezbollah diferentes. Estamos escuchando desde Lebanese media reportes que dos personas fueron matados en el norte de Inata. Y, de nuevo, esos son los reportes de Lebanese media, y hemos visto algunas imágenes que vienen de ahí también, ya que estos teléfonos son realmente aéreos. Así que estamos viendo un aumento de la frecuencia titulada, que continuamos a ver durante casi cinco semanas ahora, Laura. Pero es absolutamente lo que está pasando, específicamente, en estos últimos varios días. Ahora, y eso es por eso que estamos viendo y escuchando una frecuencia clara de Netanyahu, especialmente, como dices, después de que el tercer civilizador fue matado aquí en el norte de la frontera, donde estoy, estamos sobreviviendo. Aquí, en Shimona, una de las ciudades evacuadas, de más de 20,000 personas que han sido invitadas a evacuar. Eso es right behind me here. I want to note that when I opened my home front command app, it doesn't even tell me how many seconds I have to get to a safe place. It says immediately if there are red alerts. So that is why everyone has been asked to evacuate. You have maybe 10 to 15 seconds to get to your safe place. If we do get those red alerts, mortar fire, rockets, drone attacks, all of the different things that we have been seeing coming from Southern Lebanon over the past several days now. So definitely a tense situation that we're seeing here on the north. All right, Nicole, thank you very much for that update. Nicole Dedeck there. She's in the north of Israel, where there has been an escalation in the fighting between the IDF and the terrorist group. Hezbollah, let me introduce you to my guest this hour in the studio with me. Shiri Fang Grossman is the former head of regional affairs at the Israel National Security Council. Good evening to you, Shiri. We're also joined on the line by David Dowl, teaser Hezbollah and Lebanon senior fellow at the foundation for the defense of democracies. Welcome to you as well, David. And Shiri, I'll start with you. If I can, I mean, we've had numerous warnings from the Defense Minister Joav Gallant, who was in the north over the weekend. Prime Minister Netanyahu. We also spoke to Gideon Sa today. They all seem to be talking a lot about Hezbollah and the threat from Hezbollah and warning the group. But where is that red line? When will we know when that has been crossed? Well, I don't think it's only talking, let's just be clear. There's been an escalation on both sides. We're seeing more attacks by the Israeli IDF, defense forces, and both by Hezbollah. And, you know, we spoke about this every week that we'll see a gradual escalation going on in the field. This is exactly what we're seeing, especially after Nasrallah's last speech on Friday, that we said is going to be an escalation. When will that red line be crossed? It's a big question mark. It has to do with a lot of tactical and strategic questions, both how much can the US and France and other forces within Lebanon can contain Hezbollah and trying to deter him from escalating what he's doing. And, of course, what the IDF is doing. But it's a tactical question because Israel wants to keep most of its effort in Gaza. And it's coming into a crucial phase in that front. So it's not an easy question. But obviously there will be a red line somewhere when there's always a chance for miscalculation. And that's why we're seeing this. This is an attempt by our leaders to try to prevent that miscalculation. Porque, en el pasado, hemos visto Nasrallah miscalcularse. En 2006, él abducó y mató a tres soldados. Y él dijo que eso fue su miscalculación y no lo entendió. Así que estos son los precios para Nasrallah, básicamente. David Dowd, ¿te acuerdas con eso? ¿Y piensas que Hezbollah está confiando en el hecho que Israel está ahora ocupado en Gaza y está intentando probar el agua para ver ¿cuál es el precio de Israel? Gracias por haberme hecho. Me acuerdo absolutamente. Si vamos a volver a Nasrallah la semana pasada, no solo la semana pasada, él dijo que ahora Israel está aceptando ataques que no habrá aceptado nada. Y la única explicación de estas diferencias es que Israel está hablando de Gaza y Hezbollah, por lo que se siente más emboldado para conducir estas ataques, y que la atención de Israel y su primer foco es en Gaza. Hay también un elemento que no está discutido y que es el restratero americano en la acción israelí. En vez de otra vez, incluyendo el día de ayer, vimos una declaración de la secretaria de Defensa, Lloyd Austin, diciendo que no quieren los israelíos para extender la acción preemptiva en Lebanon. Creo que estos dos factores, han dado a Hezbollah la impresión de que tiene más room para manejar que lo que si hubiera hecho, que lo que si hubiera hecho en octubre 6. Ahora, ¿esa significa preguntar por una línea roja? No sé si hay una línea roja. Creo que Hezbollah entiende que con cada ataque que está conduciendo, y esto es algo que han dicho en el pasado, están engañando a un riesgo. Ahora, de nuevo, el margen de error es un poco más grande, y hay un límite a los israelíos. Los más civilizantes que están asesinados o asesinados en el lado israelíos, ese paciente va a ser testado, y podría extender a Hezbollah. En términos de lo que podría extender a Hezbollah, la única cosa que está extender es los factores domésticos, pero si se siente engañada en estas actividades y engañar a la prevención, ese factor puede ser un factor de restitución. Yo quiero decir que hay unos 75 terroristas que están asesinados, en Lebanon y en Siria. Israel no ha acabado el ataque en el norte de Siria y en el norte de Nevada. Así que hay que recordar eso. Ahora mismo, los tolos todavía están asesinados, no podemos overlookar eso. ¿Qué pasa sobre el pressure doméstico en Hezbollah? ¿Es que es Hezbollah detrás de eso? ¿Crees que es el turno de trabajos en Lebanon? A un cierto nivel, finalmente, Hezbollah tiene la alegría y la alegría para Irán. Si Irán instruye en ciertos términos para llevar una acción, pero, finalmente, Hezbollah queremos con un lugar tan esistimo que siga un aspecto que es una práctica eléctrica del Hezbollah, y, exactamente, los deterioran luego. Con Leonid 52, es un aspecto peas rights y commendable. Osp surrendered exiten cu Suzuki ytır. Entre las cosas, es el primer spawn que están experienciando ahora mismo. Si Hezbollah es luego percibido por las personas de los lebaníes para haberle apagado a ellos una guerra innecesaria, tanto que los lebaníes pueden simpatizar con los palestinianos y palestinianos, no significa que quieren una guerra entre ellos. Si Hezbollah es percibido para haberle apagado a esa guerra innecesaria por ellos, para haberle apagado el primer disparo, podemos esperar algunas desgracias de la calle de los lebaníes. Creo que eso es algo que Hezbollah, incluido en su base de apoyo, y eso es algo que creo que Hezbollah ha intentado evitar por los últimos 4 años, y me gustaría continuar a evitarlo. Así que, en ese sentido, los factores domésticos de los lebaníes se constrae a Hezbollah por las actividades, porque Hezbollah tiene que tomar en consideración cómo la calle responde, cómo su apoyo responde a la iniciativa de una guerra con Israel, cuando el lebanán está en sus estrellas, y cuando no habrá ninguna recuperación, eso es virtualmente cierto. Sí, gracias David, sabemos que el lebanán, ha salido a asegurar la fundación de INF, porque tiene preocupaciones sobre cómo el dinero irá en terrorismo, por lo tanto, a Hezbollah. Pero, ¿dónde está esta edición? O sea, tienes mil de israelíes que no pueden volver a sus hogares, es difícil imaginar que van a regresar o que van a regresar cuando tienen el riesgo de Hezbollah justo por la dirección. ¿Israel es solo desgraciando el inévitivo? Sí, es desgraciando el inévitivo, y tenemos que ser los líderes de Israel, que el gobierno de Israel dice a sus personas, tienes que ser fuerte, tienes que ser paciente, esto va a ser una guerra longa, no es un tema de semanas o días, esto es más de meses, si no más, y tenemos que ser focus, tenemos que priorizar, tenemos 240 hostedores, de los civiles, más de ellos, por Hezbollah. Así que tenemos que priorizar. Y creo que un factor muy importante es que Hezbollah sigue diciendo y las personas no tendrán a creer lo que dice, pero sigue diciendo, Hamas está still holding on, yo sigue diciendo, hay más de 30,000, 40,000 Hamas terroristas en Gaza, still alive, still in the tunnels, eso permite Hezbollah decir, las cosas están still okay, si vemos que Hamas va a existir, so close, vamos a ampliar la presión, vamos a llegar a una escalación más larga, así que vamos a, no estamos even close para terminar esto, no estamos even in the middle, I think. David Dow, do you think that Hezbollah is kind of coordinating its activities with what is going on in Gaza? Of course it is, I mean, not only that, I mean this plan was hatched in Lebanon, Nasrallah has been talking about the so-called invasion of the Galilee for the better part of a decade, how it would have looked like is what we'd have seen in October 7th, we've seen since, the October 7th attack from Gaza, we've seen since then meetings between Hezbollah and senior Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas officials, meetings between Hamas officials and Iranian leadership in Iran, Ismail Ghani visiting Lebanon, this is definitely a coordinated effort, I think the Iranians are sitting there and taking into consideration what each one of their proxies can handle at the current moment and what they can offer. And to some degree, this gives Israel the initiative, if Israel so chooses to seize it, Hezbollah is a much bigger threat to Israel's security than Hamas ever could be, despite, and that's not to minimize what happened on October 7th, that Hezbollah can do a lot more damage and better to catch them at a time when they're not at full strength than when Hezbollah initiates and we know this war between Hezbollah and Israel is inevitable, they keep saying it is. So Israel has the initiative now if it so chooses to seize upon it. Do you think, Shiri, that Israel is allowing Hezbollah to dictate the timing, that Israel is being more reactive than proactive? No, I don't think so. I think they're being very careful and they should be. This is a serious decision that has, people need to understand, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of precision guided missiles very heavily explosive by Hezbollah. This is a different story. We need time to train the troops, the IDF troops, we need time to have better defense on our houses. I mean, I know the outside world doesn't see a lot of casualties on the civilian side, but that's a lot to do with the Iron Dome and people being very careful and us having shelters for our people and not taking cement to build underground tunnels to attack our enemies but to defend our people. So, but it's a very different case when Hezbollah will join the war and we need to be organized and I think we are. We are organizing, we are training the troops and we're building our resilience and that's what's going on right now. And David, a final word to you on Hezbollah then and on the threat. I mean, I've asked this before but do you think that Iran seeing what is happening to its proxy in Gaza via Hamas wants to see its proxy in Lebanon destroyed as well? Ideally not. Ideally, they will take what they can get without incurring commensurate harm. That has been the approach that Hezbollah has taken so far on the northern border. They can divide Israeli troops along two fronts, maybe three. If Syria gets involved, if they're able to ignite the West Bank, that slows the IDF's advance in Gaza that buys more time for premature ceasefire to be imposed allowing Hamas, Palestinian, Islamic jihad and the rest of the alphabet soup of Iran's terror proxies in Gaza to survive, to rebuild and fight another day. I will say though that Israel has been reactive in its war with Hezbollah. Hezbollah has dictated the terms of the conflict for the better part of a decade, if not more. The fact that Israel accepts red lines in Lebanon where it does not accept the fact that Mabam has not been expanded into Lebanon, that Israel plays this effectively a game of tag with Hezbollah whereby weapons that once they reach Lebanon or once they are in Lebanon seem to be off limits. That is reactivity. That is allowing Hezbollah to set the rules of the game and that has been a mistake on Israel's part given that it has the upper hand in every avenue. Shari, would you like to respond to that quickly? Well, I think he's right up until October 7th with circumstances of change and you have to see all the board, all the players on the board and if you take into account all of that I think we're doing what we can. Yes, it looks like reactive but again I think again 75 terrorists of Hezbollah have been you know killed by the IDF and of course it can do more. It just has a price and that price needs to be weighed against other priorities and things so I'm not going to presume myself to be running this war and it's a complicated scenario with multiple fronts we're at war in the southern border in Gaza we're at war in the west bank and we're at war in the Lebanon border so there's so much you know Not even bringing in Yemen the whole thing. Yeah, I don't think right now it's not it's not that big of a threat but it does what they're doing they're really stretching a thing and you have to weigh that into account. Okay, alright, thank you Shiri and thank you David Dowd at the FDD I appreciate it, thank you. Alright, well the Israeli foreign minister spoke earlier and he said that diplomatic pressure on Israel has begun to increase with regard to its war on Hamas and on that note the US President Joe Biden is set to meet with the Chinese President Xi Jinping in the US in a couple of days time they'll be meeting at the Asia Pacific Economic Corporation Summit in San Francisco bilateral relations obviously on the agenda but there is likely to be talk about Israel's war as well we can take a listen now to both the Chinese and the Iranian foreign ministries talking about that earlier. The conflict in the Gaza Strip has been going on for more than a month the humanitarian situation there is now extremely grave the difficulty facing Shefa Hospital epitomizes the humanitarian crisis in the whole Gaza region China calls for an immediate ceasefire among the conflicting parties everything possible to protect civilians and a greater humanitarian aid effort to ease the humanitarian crisis relevant parties need to take substantive measures and make a greater effort to this end The Chinese government is expected to advise the American authorities especially their American peer based on correcting the wrong behavior it has towards the Palestine and Gaza issue and hopefully the American government will listen wisely to it's Chinese counterpart in this regard Alright, so diplomatic pressure has begun to increase on Israel according to the foreign minister we'll talk about that in more detail a bit later but let's talk about another tit-for-tat conflict that is going on in the region right now the United States says it has carried out another set of strikes against targets affiliated with Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in eastern Syria Iranian proxies have attacked US troops in the region some 40 times since October 7 joining us now doctor Naseer Alamari is an independent writer and political commentator great to have you with us Naseer thank you for joining us and the US has been striking back somewhat proportionately one would say but what is the risk of an escalation here do you think and what is Iran's strategy I think the risk is considerable taken into account that the United States has come under attack about 48 times since October 7 attack by Hamas on Israel of course the risk the US came very close to a full fledged escalation back in October 7 when a missile seems to have missed its target and it could have killed many many US troops now that is a situation where the US can't just take it and set around so the risk is there and I think Iran keeps saying they have nothing to do with this conflict they even said they have nothing to do with some of these supposed proxies of Iran so Iran is comfortable they think they reached they achieved one of the goals and that is to have these groups shoot missiles at the US and Israel from all directions with no clear Iranian involvement but where is the red line I think that is something that the Biden administration is considering very carefully and we know that the US has significantly boosted its military presence in the region is that going to have to be a long term situation do you think well I think they have 12,000 troops they have warships they have about 3,400 soldiers between Iraq and Syria so far I think the US the Biden administration seems to think that Iran is not going for full fledged war however these strikes precision strikes which killed 8 yesterday these are going to be responded to so once again that red line for Iran is not clear these groups will probably keep shooting missiles and the United States will keep responding however the likelihood of something horrible happening if you keep if the US keeps getting hit by these missiles is very high and then the United States will probably respond and that can escalate so I believe what they're doing right now is not enough it's never enough to counter Iran because their strategy unfortunately is what we are seeing right now and that is to have all these Iranian proxies shoot missiles at Israel would know without taking any political responsibility and they keep saying we have nothing to do with Hamas we have nothing to do with October 7th we have nothing to do with these proxies so this is a messy situation and there is no end in sight and a decisive victory against Iran so far a strategy of plausible deniability if you will well President Reisi of Iran doesn't seem to be suffering any consequences as you say he's just been in Saudi Arabia taking part in the Arab League and Islamic summit Saudi Arabia of course is an ally of the United States do you think Washington should be putting more pressure on Riyadh? I think they are putting as much pressure as they can because Saudi Arabia and the regime of Saudi Arabia has to look pro-Palestinian they have to continue to issue these statements against Israel but you are right Reisi is enjoying himself he's sitting back and he even urged the Arabs to condemn Israel and to expel the ambassadors and to stop any normalization which is the Iranian agenda so I think the Iranian right now are sitting back and happy to see the Arab regimes embarrassed for looking like they are helpless against Israel unfortunately the battle for hearts and minds is being won by Iran and right now they just implement this long-term plan to turn everybody against Israel and the US and the ultimate goal is for Iran to take over the Arab world with its riches and oil and eventually corner Israel that is the ultimate goal and they are patient and they think they can wait 30, 40 years or even more to achieve these goals All right Dr. Nessia Alamari thank you very much Thank you and I sure you find Gwassman is with me in the studio a very bleak outlook that Dr. Alamari paints There's a lot to be said about the Arab summit that happened on the weekend I'm not sure where even where to start I don't think Iran is completely enjoying the handshakes some for the first time with president Aziz from Egypt and also the meeting with crown prince of Saudi Arabia has been tough to swallow by the Arab leaders obviously but it's something that had to be given in order not to give Iran, Turkey and Qatar to be in the front what happened is that Saudi gave them this bear hug upgrade on screen and of course nothing tangible came out of it nothing that Iran would have liked to see that Hamas would like to see Hamas really wanted to see Hezbollah join the war and the Arab nations to cut off ties like it said there was a proposition proposal by 11 countries from the Arab League including Qatar and others of course Palestine Palestinian and that's not to allow U.S. bases from the Arab countries there's a lot of military bases to Israel a lot of proposals that were all rejected actually four countries opposed they didn't disclose which countries but we know who wasn't in favor and that's the UAE, Bahrain Sudan Egypt, Jordan a lot of the peace countries and why it's not because they love Israel they love what's going on it's not because they hate Hamas just because they don't want Iran's agenda we have to take a short break stay with us we will be back in just a few minutes stay tuned heavy weapons at Israeli troops The offensives camp the IDF has now been eliminated and Israeli troops surrounded the city's largest hospital According to Hamas and the UN around half the patients and healthcare workers from that hospital that means hundreds remain inside Israel has obtained intelligence which shows Hamas was planning an attack which reached far deeper into Israel Comenzando, pero decisivamente, la IDF está tomando más y más de la estación de Gaza del Norte. Cada movimiento es peligroso, como los tonelados explosivos pueden aparecer en cada paso, y los terroristas pueden stillar desde el rostro. Como las fuerzas empiezan, once y otra vez se encuentran evidencias de áreas civiles que están utilizadas por terroristas por sus propias, a veces usando sus propias familias y hogares. En la casa de la chief de la Amunición Brigada de la Norte de la Islámica Jihad, hemos encontrado mucho de amunición, vestidos militar, uniformes militar, junto con imágenes de los líderes de la acción iraniana. Asociado a los terroristas, Israel desea minimizar las casultades civiles, que es por eso que la fulga es presentada por las soldadas IDF a los hospitales de la chief, a pesar de la preocupación que eventualmente será utilizada por los terroristas en los tonelados debajo del hospital. Eso es también la razón por la corrupción de los pasajeros de la diaria, permitiendo a las casultades ir hacia el sur y el flujo, desde el área de la fulga. Como la fulga ahora salga en la fulga, los planos Hamas Head para la fulga dentro del territorio israelí fueron ahora revelados. Según la posta de Washington, algunos de los militares traen suficiente comida, amunición y equipamiento para darlos más a Israel, mucho más lejos que lo eventualmente hicieron. Según el reporte, no solo fueron las ciudades israelías que fueron después, pero posiblemente querían llegar a la Bank West, así que unir las dos fronteras palestinianas en lo que habría sido una victoria propaganda. Era un plan muy ambicioso, pero el entorno de la instrucción de la estabilización israelía simplemente se ha perdido. Una vez más Israel ha aprendido la forma difícil que los planos y las habilidades de la otra parte deberían ser tomados muy bien. La movilización israelía ha podido dejar el plan de combinar las fronteras, pero el precio pagó. Más de 1,000 civilizantes en las comunidades bordas que fueron matados, deberían siempre servir como un recuerdo. Bueno, vamos a tener un informe sobre lo que está pasando en Gaza. Ahora nuestro correspondiente, Zac Anders, está en el sur de Israel y nos acompaña. Zac, dame un poco sobre lo que sucedió antes de la pelea sobre el hospital Al Quds en Gaza. Right, Laura, the IDF says that one of the terrorists stepped out into the street with RPG Rocket Propel Grenade and attempted to fire on the IDF before retreating back towards the direction of the hospital as civilians, patients were streaming out. Obviously this was in the middle of an engagement, so there was quite a large amount of panic and fear in this area as those people were trying to avoid the shots that were being fired in both directions. The IDF is saying that obviously the hospitals are becoming somewhat of a stronghold, a heavy point for Hamas as they attempt to use those locations and the people surrounding those locations as some of their points of operation. It has of course spread to not just that hospital, several other hospitals are seeing incidents just like this. And the Shefa Hospital in Gaza has been identified by the IDF as a Hamas Command Center. What is Israel doing to try and get the remaining patients, healthcare workers, those kind of people out of the way? A monumental task lies ahead to be able to free the folks that are still remaining inside Shefa Hospital and in particular from what we've learned from the information gathered throughout the last 24 hours. There's still that ward of infants that are, most of them born premature, they're on intubators. The oxygen they need to survive is vital. If they don't have that, they will die. And the IDF has communicated, they've told us that they've communicated with the staff in the hospital that they will be willing to go in and attempt to pull, rescue these infants out, but the complexity of this is immense, especially given that they have not secured at this hour the hospital, the Shefa Hospital complex itself. So on one hand, Zach, trying to spare as many civilian lives as possible, what about the military goal of destroying Hamas? We're hearing several more commanders were killed in airstrikes today. Exactly, and this is again the challenge of having an operation that's almost all underground, entirely underground. It's very difficult for them to be able to locate these strong points that, again, they're saying are under command centers underneath the hospitals, but we've seen the fighting in Bethanoon which has continued to be quite intense. The IDF has not said or clarified that they've been able to eliminate all of the tunnels that stretch between Gaza City and Bethanoon. They're not sure if they're still operable. So with the fighting that we see in Bethanoon which again is in the northeast corner of the northern Gaza Strip, that does speak to the challenge of how are you able to eliminate leaders and leadership that can navigate and maneuver underground to these other strong points, these other heavy areas of fighting. The IDF says they're still having some success in doing so. Zach, thank you very much. Zach, Andrew's there. He's down in southern Israel and he's the latest on the fighting inside Gaza. Well, with me in the studio this hour, I'll show you fine. Grossman is the former head of regional affairs at the Israel National Security Council and Owen Artiman is with us as well, our senior diplomatic correspondent. And Owen, the foreign minister, Ellie Cohen has been speaking today about Israel's window of legitimacy. It's the ability to continue fighting Hamas without the pressure to impose a ceasefire. That's right. Gave a briefing to some of us reporters in Jerusalem this morning. That's the headline, that Israeli media. And for that matter, that's the headline that we also took out of the briefing after the embargo expired about an hour and a half ago at five o'clock local time. It obviously is the headline, Laura. Obviously the calendar and the timetable for the Israeli military to be able to act in Gaza is a crucial element as the war moves forward and we have the foreign minister himself going on the record and estimating there are only two to three weeks left. By the way, we've had Dani Danone, frequent guest here on I-24 News, Likud Lawmaker, firing back at Ellie Cohen on Twitter saying that's not relevant. The only thing that's relevant is the timetable to get the hostages returned home and to topple Hamas. The reality, Laura, I think it takes, with all due respect, takes Ellie Cohen's comments a bit out of context. It's not that Ellie Cohen doesn't want to see either of those things happen, but simply speaking about the window of legitimacy, the metaphor always used in Israel in rounds of fighting in Gaza, let alone in this one, the diplomatic hourglass chair. I'm sure is familiar with it, right? The image of the sand moving through the hourglass to the other side and those final kernels going through. Ellie Cohen estimates that for two to three weeks. But if we have a moment, there are a few other important points in the briefing that I think we would be remiss in not talking about. First of all, the situation in the hospitals. You were just talking to Zach about it in the Gaza Strip. And not only the problem, but the solution that Israel, along with regional and European partners is trying to work on. Setting up field hospitals by land and by sea to try to presumably bring those patients in the hospitals to places where they can safely get quality medical care. The UAE having set up its own field hospital on the Gazan side of the Rafah border crossing. The Egyptians setting up their hospital on the Egyptian side of the Rafah border crossing. A French hospital ship reportedly on its way according to Ellie Cohen to the Gaza coastline. And Israel working with other third party states that are willing to accept patients. So solutions presumably on their way for those patients in the hospitals. Also the issue of a sea corridor. Humanitarian aid so far as we know coming in by trucks over the border from Egypt into the Gaza Strip. Israel looking into the possibility of a sea corridor. How would that work? Security checks conducted by Israel in Cyprus. Then ships setting off from Cyprus, docking in Gaza, bringing humanitarian aid. And Laura, no less important, this sea corridor also being active on the day after. So commercial goods on the day after coming in not only by land over the Rafah border crossing, but also by sea with the Israeli border crossing set to be completely shut. Okay, thanks. So well, Shiri, with regard to that international pressure in Israel's favor a statement from the European Union it has condemned Hamas for using hospitals as human shields. That was quite unusual and that is very different to what the UN is saying, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Hamas has already condemned that statement saying that it allows Israel to strike against civilians which is irony and hypocrisy at its best. Yes, the sand, the sand, glass sand is ticking. And look, I've been saying since day one. One of the ways to prolong that clock is just to say what's the plan? What are your plans in the day after? There's been a lot of discourse about it and the Prime Minister is being saying that he's not going to accept the Palestinian Authority in the day after Gaza. But I think if he would say what he's willing to do, not just what he's willing not to do or he doesn't want to do, that can give by a substantial time saying that, look, we're not going to have Jewish settlements in the coastline of Gaza. You have to understand that this course in Israel has been also on the French, I think and even fringe of some of the soldiers is being saying the solution to preventing another massacre is to have Jewish settlements. And that is perceived in the international arena as a real red line. And Israel will be doing a better job if it would say, all right, this is our plan. We don't want to occupy the Gaza Strip. We have no intention of being responsible for 2 million Palestinians the day after. And I think if we have a plan and set, we can use that tactily for the operation. And of course a lot of things can happen in those two weeks and we're speaking about Lebanon and so I understand his assessment, but there's still a lot we can do. Okay, well let's get the very latest on the war against Hamas because we're joined now by Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conroy. I can see the international spokesman for the IDF. Thank you very much for being with us. We appreciate it. Can you give us an update then on what is happening at the Al Quds Hospital after that battle earlier today? Well, fighting is ongoing in the area, not necessarily specifically at the hospital. But in the area, there's still fighting, sporadic fighting, once in a while, engagements between Israeli ground forces and Hamas operatives. But all in all, I think what we're seeing is a significant decline in Hamas military capabilities, their command and control and their ability to conduct meaningful military activity in Northern Gaza. And it's been two days now. I think since we had any rockets fired at Central Israel or at Northern Israel, there has been some rockets fired at the communities around Gaza. Do you think that their rocket capabilities have been diminished as well? So, I think we should be cautious about underestimating enemy capabilities. What I just said is based on a lot of intelligence and the fact that we have taken out significant parts of the mid- and lower level officers of the different combat or combatant battalions of Hamas in Northern Gaza. With regards to rockets, we've seen a steady decline for more than three weeks of the amount and the range of rocket fire. But I think we need to still be very vigilant and careful because it could just be that Hamas are focusing in trying to preserve ammunition and not necessarily yet at a situation where they cannot fire rockets towards Northern or Central Israel. Now, of course, the IDF has identified the Shifa Hospital as a Hamas command center. Are you encouraged by that statement from the EU condemning Hamas for using hospitals as human shields? Do you think the message is finally getting through that this is the Hamas strategy that they embed themselves in these civilian targets? Yeah, the half-full part of the glass was the first part of the tweet which was, I think, a bit off when it comes to understanding the complexity of the situation and Hamas' responsibility. But definitely welcoming to see that statement from the EU which really tells the situation as it is. Hamas uses civilians as their human shields and it's not only Shifa. Shifa is a big example but we're talking about an organization that systematically uses everything that is supposed to be protected and really off the battlefield. They are doing the exact opposite in using hospitals, schools, mosques, UN facilities, ambulances. Anything that is supposed to be protected under Geneva Conventions and norms of battle, Hamas uses that in order to maximize their own protection and expose civilians. And another example of their cynicism is the horrible dreadful situation now unfolding in Shifa. The babies that are now at risk really and we've heard reports of some of them dying, they are dying because Hamas is letting them die because they are using them and trying to manipulate global public opinion and media in order to pressure Israel and it appears as if Hamas is totally okay with killing newborn babies just for the sake of trying to influence global public opinion against Israel. And I think that is cynicism at a new low, even for Hamas. Can you tell us how efforts to get the patients, the healthcare workers, the civilians out of the hospitals is going and can you tell us as well about the attempt to deliver fuel to the hospitals? Right, so I mean, we don't only talk the talk when it comes to actually delivering we, our troops delivered at risk and exposure our forces carried 300 liters of diesel fuel in order to provide an emergency solution in order to keep the electricity running for that specific ward where these newborn babies are treated. Unfortunately, sadly, we understand that the manager of the hospital was told by Hamas leaders not to accept the fuel. And since then today we've also heard them make a very odd statement about well it wouldn't be enough anyhow and it's dangerous to go outside so we're not going to take it, which I translate to these hospital officials are being bullied and intimidated by Hamas and that is why they are not taking the fuel and Hamas is strong arming the hospital. They've also related to the evacuation efforts. We know and we've seen videos and other testimonies of the fact that people have been trying to evacuate and have come under sniper and small arms fire. I can say with 100% confidence that it hasn't been Israeli fire. It is our interest to allow these people to evacuate because we want the area exposed. We want Hamas exposed so we have definitely not been shooting at convoys of civilians who has not been able to move that for the viewers to decide. But bottom line we're looking at a tense humanitarian situation where we the IDF are trying to do the best that we can in order to distinguish between civilians and combatants and to get the civilians out of the battlefield. We're fighting against Hamas. They are the enemy and they're hiding underneath the hospital. We're going to get to them and receive the military aim without jeopardizing civilians. Alright, Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conradkis, thank you. Thank you. And Shiri, we hear just how complex this battle is inside Gaza and how it is going to get a lot more sensitive and a lot more difficult. Yeah, the Palestinians are already even before we got in closer to the hospital, we've seen a large campaign in social media about how the IDF attack in Sheifa Hospital and the credibility right now is so low for the Palestinian outlets and that's why Israel is always we people hear about what we're explaining Israel and they say why it takes you so long to respond and we always say I mean the government always says we want what we say to be factual, to be truthful because in the end of the day it will hurt us in the long run to just say anything that is not based on facts and that is hurting right now the Palestinian case because people all over the world are starting not to believe what they're saying and that's very important. That statement by the EU is important. Oh, in Ultimand, Shiri Fang, thank you very much. Thank you to you both. Well, Kibbutz Berry was one of the communities worst hit by Hamas terrorists over 10% of the population was slaughtered, many others taken hostage. Well, the children of the Kibbutz have begun to share their stories of both survival and trauma. Before we start talking it's important for me that you feel comfortable and free to talk about whatever you want. If there's something that you don't want to talk about then really don't talk about it. Tell me a little bit about how you are feeling today. I'm very happy and also my daughter and she's also my daughter and my two cousins and Azar because I feel comfortable with them. So what do you say? How are you? Why? Do you miss them? Do you miss them? Do you miss them? Do you miss them? Do you miss them? Wow, really beautiful. Who bought that for you? Grandma? Yes, it's Grandma. Grandma? It's the things that happened in the Kibbutz and my grandmother no had me. So it's... It's 6 o'clock in the morning because a few days ago they told me they found a friend who was very good to me from Azar who was really good to me. If I were a child I would go everywhere and now I would something like 40 years old. What was the hardest part? I was already a child not a child. My father he was a child and then he had two children and then he had a baby and then we went to school and they took us under the bed with my mother with my mother with a little girl who was holding her hand holding her hand and they opened the door I chose to go to school How did you know what to do? I didn't I did everything I wanted to go to school. And what, you pushed it hard? We ate We tried to do everything What were they shouting? They were shouting in Arabic Do you know how many hours you were in the safe room for? Every day and I was in a hurry I didn't know what to do I didn't know what to do We were in a hurry I remember the last time he left and then we left Was that the last message from her? Do you think about her a lot? Very much What do you think? What do you miss the most? I miss her a lot We did it once She was always in tears or in dreams Did you like it? Yes, she was crying I just realized that it was I started to write to my friends I started to say goodbye to your friends already I found myself three years ago after a long time I left and I'm alive And then we all went outside the neighborhood There were a lot of groups around us And were you able to? Or did you leave alone? I told myself it's the same thing I don't like it I'm afraid of it but I think it's not I also left my father in the middle of the night My sister who came to take care of her she was a lot of people she came to open and then they opened their hearts What was grandma's name? They were beautiful She was my best sister She was my best sister I left my aunt and we went to a new house ¿Qué es difícil de ser en el hotel? ¿Es que no eres en casa? No en casa It's hard that you don't go home you eat the same thing ¿La comida te gustó a Berry? Yes, every day I went home there was an off there was a Sado there were hamburgers there were burgers