 All right, welcome everybody Before we start does anyone have any additions to the agenda that they would like to make at this time Mason Yes Okay, hey mark you have anything you want to add to the agenda. We don't really open. Yep. Yep. You just made it on time He didn't miss you didn't miss anything Yeah, yes, I'd like to make a statement tonight about the roads. All right Okay And I'm gonna add on the agenda an update on the ongoing Legal dispute over Pine Gap Road And so we have Posted this agenda in these three places, right and on the website emailed interested parties so we can move forward on this and I'm gonna start with the minutes from The last meeting on July 8th, and I didn't see any corrections on that So I'd move to approve these as typed up all in favor I great And we have We Had a request for To move something ahead on the schedule because people got to be at work and so we're gonna just Jump right into that and that was about the liquor license inquiry about I guess it's not the license inquiry so much as Question about timing is the person that? Brought that complaint here. No No, all right, then You want to hang around a little bit longer and case he does show up. I guess he did know that this is a meeting Yeah, yeah, I mean we can talk about it without him here. I guess yeah, yeah You know we're trying our best, you know a lot of times Actually somebody called and complained about the noise after midnight and one of the neighbors had come in and said hey There's people screaming You know the park people don't realize a lot of the times It's not people coming from our establishment. They call on Tuesday And they said there's somebody drunk laying in the park yelling and I'm like we haven't been opened all day You know and then we had a couple fighting, but they weren't in our establishment. They were in the park on the corner So a neighbor came in and said hey, you know, there's a lot of going just screaming and yelling after midnight And you know ever since the neighbor said something about it at 12 o'clock Which that's when we're not allowed to have liquor in in our lawn area We closed the doors and we have people come inside the pub because we're allowed to serve liquor till 2 o'clock in the morning Yeah, we do our best the music goes off the lights go off, but we cannot control People that have left our establishment. I a lot of the in people do hang out on the lawn and we you know Jim is our neighbor. He's right there. We never have had a problem. It's quite all Winter long. It's just July is our busiest month and people are crazy That's all I'm gonna say we do our best to do control of the noise and Respectful of our neighbors and you know the alternative is what for one month that these people are kind of crazy And we try and keep them quiet is to what close our doors and have it shut down and have the whole place Just sit there and rot you know We're doing our best to keep it quiet there And they should have seen some sort of improvement in the last three weeks because we're running out there going Inside get inside, you know, we're already Well, just yeah, I guess thank you for your attention and in being aware of it and that's um, I think it's some Summertime, you're right. So it's Just to just clarified down we didn't say that this is about Docs Tavern in the Huntington house Just so not every people don't know yeah, which is on the park and and and people hang out on the park too So yeah, this is the first year. We've had expanded dining area out out on the lawn Yeah, there was always a few tables on the porch. Yeah, but now it's expanded out onto the lawn So there's quite a few tables out there. Yeah, it's been busy there. It's nice You know, it's like a family atmosphere. We have tons of family coming But then, you know, a lot of this stuff that we've had to call the police at least five times All right, you know to come to the late night people that come in and of course, we don't serve them They're already drunk, honestly And we veer them away and they stomp their feet and get mad and and that's what happens. Yeah, all right. Well Thank you for taking the time out of your your work. This is your work day right now, isn't it? Yes Yeah Well, if If the person that was really brought this to the meeting shows up then I guess we can summarize What you said, yeah, thank you It's good to know you're aware of what's going on Yeah, that's really that's all I wanted to bring it to a public forum just to Encourage you to keep doing a good job Yeah It's not like when the Eagles nest was was there that was really going to get pretty wild Yeah, so we're two no, yeah, we've all experienced it and it'll get cold and people will stop hanging out outside soon enough, so Yeah, right We have Joan could not make it here tonight, but we do have some updates on what is going on with what most people are interested in and is Betham out on the road and we do not have it ready to sign today But we're looking to award the con contract to GW Tatro as the company and We're gonna have that award ready for me to sign tomorrow and then Thursday morning is when we're going to have the Contractor sign and they're assuming that they're going to want to start work immediately because the of the Time crunch that was going on and that also people should be aware is they have permission to work 24 hours a day I doubt they're gonna Work three shifts, but more and likely two shifts and probably on some Saturdays, too And I don't think anyone's gonna be We don't know we don't they have the right to yeah Yeah, so you're gonna be set for the next next couple months you shouldn't have any problems because it's gonna be nice It's you know, we'll we'll see it's it's expensive they have you know You know, I don't think they're gonna want to be paying overtime to have people work if they have two crews It's already a big big expenditure. So but but We gave them permission to do what they need to do to get it done quick. So no, it might be realized As soon as possible we're signing with them Thursday morning. I wouldn't be surprised to see them mobilizing Thursday afternoon This is all about time 2.2 yeah 270 something To order the bid to GWT for the plan to sign the agreement the next day tomorrow. Yeah And then the contractor will come in on Thursday and inside. Yeah Hey, do you know where they're from north somewhere I think they have also done work in this town in the past As soon as possible, yeah, like immediately probably No, no, he's saying is there any urgency on their side to complete it Is Always late and over budget there there are It's unclear exactly what there were some What were the there are contingencies are Not over budget but over time The P is really trying to get it paved before winter August 11th is there But we've we've been to work beyond But there it's also in their Interest to wrap it up before winter and not have to then Remobilize in the spring, you know, it's it just makes it more expensive for them also to do that Engineering Poor samples To find out where the real ledges under the roads the surveying had to take place and then the rest of it was all in engineering So no not physically Not really not really, but hey paid the paperwork's all in order now. It's the muscle comes in And in terms of the upper part of Betham Mountain Road, which is site to Dubois and King is working on the right-of-way plans for 13 plus or minus properties that are involved with that work and They're working on preparing the specs and bid documents. So we don't have a projected date for that bidding yet But it's in the process for that Nope, that's a separate separate project separate, you know bid project could be but you know, we'll see we don't know Yeah, there are two separate, you know No, it shouldn't take so long it's not such a big deal. Yeah Yeah, but it is part of the the work that's covered under the emergency Highway aid in terms of the FEMA projects around I guess you you're having a call on Thursday To get more updated with that And then they're going to do another site visit in a couple weeks Yeah, any input on that cooter with what the FEMA projects or And So that's moving along in terms of the bingo road repairs now we've submitted a public use permit application with the Forest Service and They're going to be meeting with Cooter and Joan to be meeting with Chris Mattrick and other Forest Service staff on Wednesday Looking at both temporary and permanent repair options And there is a possibility of applying for a v-trans emergency grant for the temporary repair And we're of course open to the Forest Service Contributing funding to what extent that they can That's really what Joan has been up to which is a lot so that's Her report we got Those there You got any other highway news or is that pretty much the highlights? All right, all right and And Terry did you have any I see you finally got the the hydrant in down by the p-line This Sunday I got I got one question for you Terry. Well, I noticed that an invoice that you have rented up test pump Yeah, what was that for? for the deep wells We have to pump them all the way down Okay, take samples right so I hope them down the day before and come to dry it It dries again Right and then the next day you got to do the same thing and then you got to draw samples We tried doing with Baylor, but They're 70 feet down. So the Baylor only holds half a point So draw out five gallons and then Take you half a day Okay, and I price one now and they want $4,500 so it's a lot cheaper So that's it. Yeah Summertime nobody's here. Well, you have anything to contribute from the library Like what Okay, check out the bulletin boards, all right All right About the Muller report coming up So we're kind of talking a lot about roads Marv you had a statement you wanted to make about roads Yes, I would like to make a statement about History and future and that is to this select board and future select boards since In the last 20 years there have been two attempts to close a section of Mars Brook Road From Robert Finkel if I don't know the number Down to the bridge of the Mars Brook and so whether put a cold sack in and both places however, I As an advocate suggested that was a baby on the Porton Road not to discontinue and so forth and The select board did see my views since I did bring Mike Boyne a farmer that has a firm on the top of Mars Brook Road and one on 100 and that was a connecting point for him then secondly Another board wanted to discontinue that same section because of the washout, of course And he was going to cost too much to rebuild That I was on the board at that time not an advocate But of course I had a real conflict of interest now I think this emergency has really shown that we need to look at what could happen with any Connecting roads and that is for the future and I'm only talking I don't know what's gonna happen the past I can relate to but the future We got a look at and discontinues of road is very important I was 14 years old when some of these roads are in context right now was discontinued and So now there's a content Anyway, I'm just suggesting there's gonna be a lot of mind thought put into The discontinues of a road even though it goes to a trail or class for a road It doesn't mean that it can't be retained and that's the important thing So your point is just just like we experienced after Irene is that when a road goes down It's nice to have some options. Yeah. Yeah And I want to say thank you to those elect boards. Yeah, okay All right Mason you had something you want to say about the conflict of interest and civil authority I didn't get a chance to look at the minutes. Did you record? Actually the date of signing The conflict of interest policy, it's not in the minute in the minutes I don't have that memorized, but I would look it up. I don't know if the minutes say the actual date Suggesting that it isn't maybe tonight you might want to put in tonight's minutes that you signed it on the 24th as a policy We have to see what we did. We had discussion at our last meeting about that But there was no definitive answer about when yeah, because we thought we signed it in April June it was signed on the 24th of June All right So just we're looking for clarity that might be good to be put in the minutes if it was done in power It is if it was done in public and not an executive session There wasn't executives. That's what I understood That's what Tom shared with me so I'm just saying that for everybody's benefit might be good to make sure it's in the minutes I'll put them in there Yes, but I patty spoke with me earlier And it was great because like having an understanding that back in 2000 when Marvel was on the board that a the first policy of conflict of interest was put together and It was revised once after that and then this new one Which is actually a model from the Vermont leagues of cities in town. Mm-hmm. It's basically what we were functioning under I mean pretty close pretty close. Yeah, right Okay, you know, I just want to share that I thought it was a good Civil authority. I was hoping you might be able to give an update. I understand that the civil authority Hasn't had proper minutes that's been recorded or I maybe give us an update on where that is And a lot of this is you know building up to the next election to make sure we're actually functioning as well as we Should be for elections So Not sure what you're referring to in terms of what I was taking. Yeah civil authority to me. Yeah The minutes are in the book. Yeah, there is a book and there are minutes. Yeah Yeah, there's there's some that you're you were looking for that you couldn't find or something Okay Authority and how you know, are we set up to really function for the next election in a good manner since we did have some Disturbances in the last election process Thank you. All right So We've got On a lighter note approval. We'll have an application for use park. Thanks for coming in you guys For use of the park for a memorial for Vernon Rockwin of Rochester, Vermont and Amy Braun is the one that applied for this it would be on July Oh, she's applied on July 9th. Okay, then the event will be August 25th and Night move to the proof Yeah, not a second on favor And see we've got Well my my Little bit of news is we in terms of the ongoing litigation between Mason and the town over the existence of Pine Gap Road. He had appealed the select board's decision not to discontinue that road and the Court has finally issued a decision on the town's motion for summary judgment and the intervener's motions for some summary judgment and Basically, the court has ruled in favor of the town on Mr. Wade's appeal of the select board's decision Denying the petition for discontinuance. That means that the select board decision stands No part of Pine Gap Road is discontinued and the court also ruled that Mr. Wade has admitted that the town Highway 29 is a public road classified as a class 4 under 19 VSA section 302 A4 and the court also ruled that that Mr. Wade raised a genuine issue of material fact with respect to whether the section of Pine Gap Road identified by Mr. Wade is part of town Highway 29 and the court has said that the evidence raises a question about whether town Highway 29 Does in fact traverse Mr. Wade's land on that section identified and the court has granted him The 30 days to amend his complaint to address these issues So anybody have any questions about that? No, I'm just wondering if I could see a copy of this or Sure You could have this one at the end of the meeting I know that's a mouthful a couple mouthful Harlan I was wondering why you haven't asked that for a few months Yeah So at this point it has cost the town $45,983 and 29 cents and it's Mason Decides to take advantage of the 30 days. He's been offered to Raise more questions. I'm sure that amount will go up Yeah That would be a down payment on being able to take care of a road. It sure would wouldn't it? Yeah Sure would You know anybody else have any questions about that. Nope. All right We have Some of the Budget printed out some Where we're standing and where we're going with it I haven't had a chance to study on that you guys have any input on that Oh, yeah, no, it just just came out We're just we postponed the budget and finance committee meeting this last week because we were Nothing really to work on Yeah, nothing to chew on yet, but now we do so I know people know that but Every winter there's the budget and finance committee, which the select board is part of gets together and starts hashing out What we're spending and what we need to spend and in trying to you know, keep the Keep the taxes as reasonable as possible and our projects as reasonable as possible and this year The committee decided to try and keep meeting monthly Throughout the year. So when we come to that crunch time, it's not quite such a big hurdle To overcome so that's why That's why we have this stuff presented now and We're talking about it in July and not January. No, I'm sure we'll talk about it in January, too Yeah, and Got any other questions Harlan Nope, nope I Haven't taken a peek at it. No I've been maxed out like the Last person that has seems to have seen it is Mason's lawyer Back and when Tony was But anyway, that's I Think that's what we've got tonight and thank you all for coming and Come again in a couple weeks and we'll have more Hopefully we'll be here complaining about how loud it is and working on Bethamon Road That's