 I'm very pleased to be joined by Doreen Bogdan-Martin. She is the chief of strategic planning and membership at the ITU, Ms Bogdan-Martin. Hello and welcome. Hello. Thank you. Now, you were at a conference this morning. Well, you were moderating a conference this morning on using technology to empower women. Having heard all the arguments or conversations across the panel, what stood out for you? What struck you? That everyone agreed it was time for action, enough talk, time to take action. We know what the problem is and now we need to work together to fix the problem. And how do we go about that? You've plenty of ideas floating around, but how do we turn that into a concrete reality or at least a plan of action that we can implement? So, we need multiple stakeholders and that's the beauty of the WISIS Forum. We need governments this morning. We had the minister of Pakistan who talked about the great work that she's doing in Pakistan. We had a representative from Microsoft who talked about their great projects. We had GSMA who talked about recent studies they have and the data that they've been collecting. We had civil society. You need all the different stakeholders together and together we can take concrete actions and steps to try to get more women and girls interested in the ICT field, to have them take up studies in this field, to have them then go on to get jobs in this field and then hopefully to end up in leadership positions in this sector. And it's an incredibly dynamic era for technology, information and communication technologies. I guess it's at this time in the kind of genesis of that whole environment that we can bake in the cake the kind of settings that are going to make the big difference. So, it's important as you say to act and act soon. Absolutely. We need to act soon and we need to get out there and work harder on changing perceptions because that's still a big issue that the sector is perceived as geeky and there's not enough role models out there. And we need to inspire girls to be creators. We need to encourage girls to start to create their own content. In Europe only 9% of app developers are women and we need to change that. Dorian Bogdan-Martin, we will leave it there. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you very much.