 I love the premise of the show Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit Oh, we go where we not supposed to go baby Yep, Charlamagne the guy shots. We are the brilliant idiots podcast back for another week of brilliant idiotness We have our guy here. You hear his voice at the beginning of every brilliant intro Let's learn that you know when he says, um, I like the premise of this show. I Can't remember now and I hear it all the time. What is it? I like the premise of this show Smart people talking about dumb shit. Yes. That's like a dumb people talking about smart shit. I'm gonna pull with his head Humble's got a new book out called how to be loved. We're gonna talk about today But first of all, how's everybody feeling man? You what's your what's your disease of the week? Charlotte, what do you got? We should go through Charlotte's disease of the week I'm still wearing the heart monitor. Okay, so so right now you said before the pod You have a heart monitor on with a heart monitor and I gotta carry this around It's like a little phone and you tap it and it says monitoring and then you tap the details Uh-huh, and it tells you successfully monitoring your cardiac information. I've got a way for another and why why why? Why do you think it's something's wrong with you? I don't know. I just been hearing about everybody having heart attacks and so you think he's a professional athlete that was Going as hard as you possibly could for 30 minutes in a game and pushing his body to the ultimate maximum point That it could handle is going through the same as you that sits down for a little to that point It wasn't just him. I had a I had a I had a homegirl who died of some heart attack a homeboy recently and the thing with the football player When I heard about the hit like I got to hear these things. I have to hear. Oh, it was a hit Yeah, you know our oh this person was over with because it wasn't just a Brother from the bills who has another gentleman the guy from the Jaguar. He died. Yeah, you know He was 38 years old, you know So it's just like yeah, you know, but I was wearing a monitor before like I've been wearing a monitor for like Two weeks. I would have been done if I didn't go to Ghana And working on it because it didn't have no signal on the um on the phone. That's fucked up Yeah, so same old thing. But what do you think it is? You think it's Trump's vaccine? Your diamond died yesterday from diamond and silk no Come on Schultz I didn't know she died what she died from I don't know but she was 51 years old and was wild about it is I saw people in The comments saying a lot of suddenly dies all of us But they're doing that all the people that are against the vaccine. Yep, they always say oh another suddenly dies But I'm like another sudden death another sudden death You you were speaking in the most incoherent way We let you go the first time and then you repeat the exact same thing To be a hard monitor when you're trying to put together a sentence, you know Rock But no because people were saying in the headlines like diamonds suddenly dies. Yeah, how they were saying that they'd be Yeah, you know suddenly died, but the crazy part is people were saying that but they don't realize that they weren't they weren't for the They weren't for the back But that's Trump's vaccine though. It's definitely Trump's is by this booster, but it's Trump's vaccine Definitely Trump's vaccine. So it is a what is it called a unilateral approach a bipartisan approach by part of those non-binary It isn't it's non-binary. They literally reached across the aisle. Okay, yeah, both. Yeah, um, but you didn't tell us how you I want to get there by how are you? How are you? I'm concerned about you, bro No, cuz for real you're walking a little different. I think I feel I think honestly my knee is hurting a little bit I was out yesterday. You did when you walked in. I was like, yo, it's his knee hurting a little bit also Seriously, I'm gonna put all the ailments on you right now because once you say Charlotte Once you say Charlotte could have something he starts manifesting it remember when he turned himself into a wolf now He turned into a fucking victim of every disease that exists That's real. Why don't you turn yourself into healthy? I'm trying. That's why I need to know nothing I need to know everything's good. Mm-hmm. And then once I know everything's good. That's why the doctor keep telling you like He's like you just got to say everything exactly You made yourself a wolf bro, you made yourself fly you can't make it So better on me. I'm just 44. I'm just making sure everything's ticking away. Just go my heart's good Repeat after me. My heart's good. I have pride. Well actually a stable. I have power I'm about as mother that don't take shit from nobody You need to making confidence to get over these issues that you got that but they mean lying I don't eat pussy. Yeah, you lying ass Jamaican. Yeah, you eat some dumpling How are you humble to pull it I'm good man humble Can you help Charlotte with his made-up diseases and shit that he got? Yo, it's true though The the stories you tell yourself impact how you feel hundred percent. That's my my my therapist I got a new therapist. My therapist tells me all the time anxiety and faith can't coexist and he was like Whenever you start to feel anxious tell yourself your own hero store Like literally tell yourself your own hero story. He was like, yo, you know what you've been through You know what you've overcome You know how you've gotten to where you are tell yourself that story constantly and not just about yourself talk about, you know How you help others and this is like, you know, and I Attendant to work Did I would tell you I told y'all that story when I was in the doctor's office and the doctor was checking my blood pressure And it was high one second and he's like It's gotta be like it's it's no way and then he was like sit down and he was like do the meditation He was like do the meditation, you know, think about the upcoming vacation all of that stuff like that And so I did it in literally within seconds. He was like, it's you're fine. Your blood pressure is fine Have you done ice bath yet? No. Oh god. Don't get me started with this ice bath. You did it shows I'm not doing this ice bath. Oh, you have it I'm scared I've done it But like it's like the new trend like everybody's like getting cold in the morning and all this kind of shit And I love Dr. Huberman. We had him on the podcast. It's a fucking great guy I'm not like Wim Hof. Well, Wim Hof also, but Huberman has been like Wim Hof is like the vagabond in the mountains And then Dr. Huberman is like the guy who's like, oh science does believe this works Yeah, do you know what I'm saying? Wim doesn't talk about the science. Yeah, Wim is just like you got a broken leg going ice Exactly. Don't fix it. Yeah, and then his son's gonna be like, no dad it won't fix your leg But if you have anxiety, it will fix that. Yeah, why don't they just take your mind off the Yeah, put yourself in a really difficult situation and become comfortable in difficult situations And then when you have those difficult situations in life, you'll be comfortable. That's not how my mind works My mind works like my god My dick is gonna get so shrinkage in this shit that it'll never grow back the way it was Really? You go through that you go through all of that and then nothing else in your day will be a stressful Because you did that that's the idea You know, but you're at peace with that You're 53 you got four kids like you don't need no It figured it out I saw you doing something like that one time, but what's the ice bath? I train with him. I went to Poland. I did it with Lewis house That's what I saw. Yeah, I was him and then I thought it was dope like it was super dope from that but it's also just like in terms of like That's the hardest thing you'll ever do you do that, you know You freak the fuck out and everything and then after that like whatever else dresses you won't won't stress you out as much So why is Kevin Hart doing this shit all the time with everybody? Yeah, everybody's doing that the cold ice cool I don't know. I don't know if there's actual healing. I feel like it's the same thing as like skydive It's like you survive and you're like, oh, okay. I'm alive. I'm saying I when I hear you talk about it I'm like, well, that's bungee jumping. It's yeah, and it forces you to breathe That's what it does what I will say about the ice bath shit Is it like it's no coincidence to me that like nobody in New York does it because it's freezing it No, not because it's cold. It's like I'm gonna experience some terrifying shit the second I walk on my fucker I got a homeless person eating a cat When I walk outside like and I'm immediately shocked and then I gotta calm myself down Like I get on the subway the door is closed and a guy takes his fucking dick out starts peeing What really excited what race is the homeless person now Puerto Rico, okay? Okay, yeah, Puerto Rican a hundred percent. Yeah, there's no other one that would eat the cat at all It would be Puerto Rican a hundred percent. Okay, so wasn't you making eating the cat? So afraid of pussy man, that's a lie. They say that should be get more pussy, but apparently they don't do ice bath They start even pussy. That's what they do in Jamaica if you start your morning by eating some What's dangerous? That's the most scary thing. By the way, that's why I don't believe ice bath shit You're not gonna make me believe that the ice bath is the most difficult thing you're gonna do ever in your life Yeah, cuz you know you could get right out. It's up to you if they was holding you in it Yeah, but you still feel like you're gonna die while you're in it. Have you it's like working out? You voluntarily Work out. Yeah, rip muscles make yourself uncomfortable And then when you gotta like help somebody move a couch you can't but the idea is like you're putting yourself in this situation That's uncomfortable and what I would say is like New Yorkers. We exist in discomfort. I agree like yeah Yeah, we this is the part of life like when I walk down the street to this day every person I see walking down the street. I'm doing a calculation if they're gonna punch me in my face That's a real thing and I'm just comfortable with it. Yeah, and what that's doing is just keeping you present You're not zoned out. You're not listening to your headphones. You're not focusing other stuff You're in the present. Yeah keeps you more at peace. Yeah, so it's the resilience that you get. Yeah Voluntarily being uncomfortable Which is what somebody does by voluntarily living in New York. You're right. That's what it is But I will say this when I was in Miami, and I didn't think of nobody punching my mind fit My life is so much better, bro. Yeah, this ice bath No, but they turn soft say good, but then I got soft this get me hard. So what about a woman the woman that gives birth? I'm sure giving birth is way more difficult than ice bath. How do we know that bro? They've been doing that shit for millions of years the female lobby is trying to convince us that it's hard to give birth You know me like how hard can it be bro? Come on? Yo, if you give birth in the ice bath that could work little ice-cold baby. That could work Hey, that could work for real You know what I'm saying? For real. That's a good idea. They never tried that. Oh, man Um a lot of stuff going on this week that we're gonna get into we're gonna talk about humble's book It's called how to be love Uh, what is what's first about telling what the title of the book means humble? Because it says it's the last book on love you'll ever need. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. I put in the work Yeah, so it's just everybody wants love and the secret to having love is to be love Just view love as a verb Oh, I agree with that. Yeah, like like because that's why I always say explain that to me because I'm I'm dumb to explain that Well, I always say your first last and self love your first last and best love will be self love And that's just how I carry myself and that's what I I feel like that about myself. I project that on others Always approach situations with love. Hmm. And I think it's also like Everybody wants love and they don't recognize what love actually is anymore. Okay ironically I use the analogy of canal street love where it's like attention affection Cloud success power control. These all feel like love, but they're not, you know, like canal street version bootleg love And actual love comes internally and it's like anybody you love in your life Whether it's a spouse a partner a parent they're showing you what love is and you're getting a pathway of love with them Versus they're giving you love So I think when people most everything everybody does is to get these feelings of love But most of those things aren't love Just being like, yo, you're a source of it create it and share it and then you'll experience more of it versus Trying to make a lot of money trying to look fly trying to be perfect trying to love isn't something you earn I think people think they got to earn love or be worthy because the feelings is similar Yeah, yeah, those feelings are temporary all those other things you get them temporary Where actual love is just peace actual love is clearing out the garbage and what's left is love You don't got to do nothing to get love. Yeah I love what you said about love not being something that you earn and it makes me wonder um You know I mean it makes me think that you can't find love and no nothing else like nobody can Give you love Yeah, I mean I'm asking I don't I don't think anybody can give you love I think people can show you where love is. Yeah So the way I look at it is like if it's a breeze your work is to open the sale It's not like I need to find love. I need someone to give me love. Yeah, so it's like, you know Some relationships are easier with that with you know with a parent or something like that It's easier to establish that relationship and see where the love's at And then also with like a baby or something you don't even have interactions with the baby But you love the baby But then with people you guys do a little bit more work to establish it with time and then being vulnerable Building connection being vulnerable that like creates a path And I think I look at it that way now creating pathways to love with people All right. Yeah That makes sense and with things too like when we're having that earlier conversation about craft All of that like that's it's the same idea like the only way You know, you get great at your craft. It's through the boring unsexy work shooting in the gym No one's watching. Yeah, that's the same thing in a healthy romantic relationship There's the unsexy stuff that's happening behind the scenes paying the bills Negotiating dates vacations all this nipping another why they taking the shit doing all of that. Yeah They just farted. Yeah All of that stuff. Yeah, all that like stuff that's not hashtag couples goals and all that So I think from that standpoint It's just looking at that and then realizing that a lot of our ideas around love come from like what we see on tv or like Bobby Whitney Ross Rachel all these like highs and lows You know, and I think we're a healthy relationship Any capacity is would it make for good tv? And I think we don't realize how much it like disney And porn and like rom-coms tell us what we think it is and like there's studies that say there's no spark Like the spark you shouldn't depend on the spark when it comes to like romantic relationships So like a study of like I think it's 1,100 couples that have been together for more than 10 years Less than 8% of them talk about ever feeling a spark And I feel that spark bro. Yeah, I think that spark there No, that spark when you first meet somebody I still got that spark after two years I think I actually got it more now really working on that spark or that spark that spark there I mean to me. It's like, you know the spark grows The more you and a person grow together because I mean I've been I've been blessed to be with the same person for 24 years to be 25 years this year. So we've seen each other through so many different stages We saw each other when we was Teenages we saw each other when she was in college and I was first starting in radio Like, you know, we've literally grown together. We've been evicted together We got kids now that we start with one now We got four like so it's just like yo the more I see her in different capacities The more she sees me in different capacities the more we evolve as people is just like man more and more I feel like the fire Grow but as a fire and that's also a bond that you guys are like working on You know through your highs loads when I'm having a spark It's like that butterflies in your stomach when you first meet somebody still get it, bro You get that you got that from day one up to now. Hell. Yeah, I mean that's beautiful to hear I think butterflies change I think that the butterflies in the beginning are ones of uh Not um not knowing the outcome The excitement of what if where this could go what will happen with the night Do you really like something and I think that those transition to for me at least gratitude You know what I mean like my wife put a new toothbrush in The place where our toothbrushes go And this morning I was like god damn what a fucking great woman now She put her new toothbrush as well, but she's thinking when she gets toothbrushes She's like I need to get two because this motherfucker ain't gonna ever change out of his toothbrush And she might be doing it completely selfishly I'm tired and then brushing his teeth with the most dirty ass fucking toothbrush And I got to kiss this guy But going in the morning and seeing a brand new toothbrush and knowing that she thought about me She cared about me and that that was there I was like man, I feel like the luckiest motherfucker That's what shows just said is the key to it all it's and you guys are describing peace And that's what love is it's that I feel guilty. I was like I need to buy or something like I I literally I was walking around today. I was like she need a gift or some shit because I'm so horrible at love So thankful for her that you just want to continue to do stuff for her and pour into her That's exactly what it is gratitude. I have more and more gratitude for my wife That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about that exciting spark, which is probably trauma Because this person reminds you of like your parents And people lean towards what's familiar over what's healthy So, you know, just something exciting about this person and you're drawn to them. You don't know what that is That's what a lot. So a lot of people pass up. She says that book attached That says we believe in soulmates, but we believe you probably passed on your soulmate because you thought they were boring Oh, uh, it's hard to have a spark when you just the woman reminds you of your mom Not your mom. No, I mean, I think a lot of people are because your parents are your parents are the first example Whoever raised you as your first example of love True, right? Yeah, and then you pick what's familiar. So when you're when you're a kid and you have a developing brain What ends up happening is you internalize everything. So let's say Your parents have a bad day at work or whatever and then they come home and take it out on you You're a kid. You don't have the context. You think it's your fault So you make adjustments accordingly and then that's where people learn this idea that I have to earn love I have to earn my parents love after be something and then you don't update that when you become an adult So then you were like, okay, cool. I have to earn my mom's love I'm going to I'm more attracted to the girl that makes me work for it versus the girl that's replying to my text Making it easy not canceling plans. Okay. She that's boring. I don't want that I want that girl that's making me chase her and then that's how it manifests Like the movie it showed that really well the new it they showed when the kids grew up All of them married their parents Like the little boy had a helicopter mom that just always hovered over him You married a woman that always hovered over him The girl had an abusive father She married an abusive dude because it's like you stick to what's familiar Yeah, that's so ill you say that because for me and I love my pops, but I wanted to be the exact opposite I wanted to be just like him when I was young Even with all the toxicness and all the dysfunction because that's how he Made me feel he would literally all you only got one girl for shit like that, you know what I mean And then as I got older, I'm like that is not what's up You know, so as I started to get older and realize I was becoming just like him That's what made me go out and do a lot of work on myself to be there And that's self-awareness you pick up on it a lot of people float through life without that self-awareness Yeah, they're just on autopilot. Yeah, so they're gonna lean in towards all of that So it's like, okay Well, they're just going off these gut feelings and they don't even realize the source of the gut feelings Yeah, so it's like oh that guy he's exciting and I've seen that too like the friend that was helping an la and an abusive relationship It's because she grew up in one of those. Yeah. Yeah, that's the love you think you deserve weirdly Yeah, and it's just familiar We have that with food Some of us just like eating the same food that we had as a kid whether it's healthy or unhealthy for us because it has a nostalgic value Yeah, that's why I love wendy's. Yeah, what happened with wendy's is the ultimate comfort food Really? Yes, because my grandmother used to I used to take my grandmother into town take her in the most corner And that's what she wanted to do stop by wendy's all the time and she wanted her fries hot So that's what that's my comfort food. Wendy's is my comfort food You probably felt a lot of love around your grandmother That's it. So now you're attaching that love to that food. That's it Chasing the feeling not the food chasing the feeling not the same thing with people like when you miss somebody You don't miss them. You miss the feeling they give you Yeah Interesting, you know what I love I love being right Wait, what? Excuse me. Taylor. I feel hate coming from over there. I don't know why I don't know why this hate just came from I just like being right. Why don't I mean talk to us more because you know For years, I've been telling y'all over and over over and over. I get mistaken for maris chestnut. I see it I see people say it to me all the time. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you was maris chestnut I'm walking down the street. Hey lamps. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm your investment, you know, I mean I get it all the time Nobody believes me think I'm being delusional, you know, think I'm being insane thinking I'm being a fucking Nutt head. Yeah, and then here goes maris chestnut on jennifer life. Yeah People make sure up with other celebrities sometimes Who do you get mixed up with? Oh man. See I get mixed up with people say, uh, yeah, I love Jim Fast and the Furious Tyrese Let's see y'all can y'all see You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, that was that that was that said uh at the event in Atlanta um, I get recognized uh somewhat very recently, uh For the first couple of times, I thought I was charlamagne charlamagne guy. Wow Oh First of all, they used their own picture Yeah, that's not the best. They were swinging it. Yeah, you know, I mean they were trying to get the jury to not agree Yeah, with everybody else who just recognizes handsome when they see him Okay, they should have used the picture of me with a nice button up on our suit Right squinting my eyes the gq one. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's all about the squint Yeah, the eyes and the smiles. No, not that one. There's another one where you have a whole suit on I figured I thought that's another one when I got the vest on you know what I mean Yeah, the vest one that's the one they shouldn't use but I love the validation bro You're handsome, bro. Thank you You're handsome. Thank you and so is Morris Chestnut. That's right And even though you guys look nothing alike, you need to know that you're a handsome man. Thank you And sometimes handsome people Get confused for one another. That's very true. That's it. You guys just might be top 1% of handsome And it just so happens people are so not used to seeing men look that good that they start going. Oh, are you guys the same? That's what I'm saying. You're you're the same convey about that's it. There's nothing I can do about that God created it in that way. God did. We're the design God did that was up to you to decide who's the phantom who's the christlet 300 You know what I mean, but it's literally the same design. It's the same design, bro Fucking design. It's the same design. You gotta feel good about yourself I do that should be valid in because I think what happened a lot of times is like people saw you as like Radio comedian they saw this guy's sex symbol and they really couldn't put together Radio comedian and sex symbol Name one. I can't think of any other sex symbol in radio except for me Think about it. We broke the mold before us. It was fat radio personalities There's that term face for radio. You got a There's a literal term face for radio. There you go. My email. It's just still his radio face. I mean I mean my email is radio face. I was back when you had the radio face, but Things might have changed. I still might have a radio face. I don't know. Well, I have a multimedia face Okay, fair enough. Have you had work done? Is that what it is? No, no, no, no No, you know, I was thinking about this yesterday as I was working out The only thing I think I would actually do cognitively Is the steroid The what steroid? What else was the shit pep time? Was it called the peptide pep to pop tarts pep time. What are you talking about? Yeah The steroid the shit you was talking about that you say the actors and shit are taking. Oh peptides. Yeah I mean, yeah, but that's not surgery. Oh, like no, it's just a shot. You put it. Yeah It's not gh, but essentially what it does is it's changing you Yeah, all these dudes are doing that shit to look extra fucking sexy. Yes. Yes. Let's be clear Can I be honest with you if you did that? you're gonna you're gonna You're gonna ruin morris chestnut's career If you look the way that you look right now And you started to get shredded bro. Okay. There's no reason for morris chestnut. Whoa And with all due respect because I love morris chestnut. Whoa. I love them Whoa, but the way that you look this is fringe. This is the way that you look What do you mean? I don't hear gas. I hear pep talk. This is a pep talk with the pep All I'm trying to say is if I'm more chestnut, I'm pleading with your agent right now I'm pleading with your manager right now. I'm pleading with you I'm like do not let charlotte get ripped because it's going to be a problem. He will be rendered redundant Oh, yeah, 100%, huh? Where do we get them from? I heard about all kind of shit yesterday because I was kind of hating on somebody. I'm not who I'm not who I was just looking I'm like who you know, you see somebody like that's steroids y'all It's like when you watching a porn, you see that big? That shit ain't real. Yo They got steroids for that No, by the way, hey now now if that shit was Cosmetically, I get I had a couple more inches. Yeah, wait a couple more just a couple is it okay because you want a boy No, I just want a couple more just I'm done. I'm you're done with the kids. Oh, I'm getting a vasectomy and everything. Oh really 100% Can I go there for that? Why? Because the second they do it, I'm like, you don't want to get girls praying no more Oh After you get the vasectomy you got a nut 20 times Really you got a nut 20 times to get it all out. Oh, that's fire. Yeah, that's the loot. Oh, because you the rest Otherwise you have some still in there The survivors bro, that's facts There's survivors in there. You taught you bomb this town. No, it's 20 motherfuckers left You got to get rid of You right though, you ask this is that's how uh, I think Antonio Cromarty got his wife pregnant again Yeah Anyway, so I think I think you got it, man Tell me who you were hating on whose body you were hating on. I'm not come on, bro. Can you give us uh initials? No, no, no, come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Do I know who they are? We'll bleep it It wasn't hate like all fucking it was just like Ain't no way You know what I mean? Ain't no way. And you know when your wife around Yeah, yeah, yeah Why'd it go in a little too long with the magazine? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know how that shit feels Come on, uh, tell me who it is Tell me who it is You never did that? No Your life I find ways to hate on everybody my wife liked though, even if I like that motherfucker If she agreed too much with me on someone I like, I know it ain't all that Fuck out of here, look at this goofy ass motherfucker What you laughing at? What you laughing at? I got jealous of a clown the other day I went to the I went to the professional bull riding. I went to the professional bull riding and it was amazing But the clown was cracking my wife up. I'm like you laughing at a clown right now Like is that what I need to do to make you laugh? I just come home with a nose Is that what you need me to do all these well thought out lines ideas and jokes and shit You need to be a pace pay my face. Is that what you need to get some laughs at dinner? I was furious She kept like she kept laughing like hitting her knee. I'm like you never hit your knee before laughing. Oh, man There's some little wing footage about little wing talking about some dude came up to him being like Oh, my girlfriend loves you. He's like, don't tell me you could he goes hate on me Yeah, don't tell me your girlfriend loves me. Yeah. You should be hating on me. Uh-uh, what is that? What is that? I don't know fragile masculinity Is it? Yeah, but I don't want to be too comfortable in my masculinity because these motherfuckers too comfortable got people having sex with their wives and shit No, that's why that that's too much comfort. Yeah, that cook cook with that shit called Is it cucking cucking that cucking shit is nuts and they think we're insecure. I that's one ice bath. I'm not getting That's the ultimate ice bath. You want to tell me it word up that Word up up the ice bath your wife bath Can you watch another man inside your goddamn wife, bro? That is that's the most difficult. Shit. That's funny. And then I saw some video where the guy was like, oh, she was making noise I got right there. That's funny That's funny. There's something to that crazy Oh land humble What I'm I don't I didn't know that was real. I didn't I've never met someone who's like cool with that Oh, no, I'm not talking Come on. I'm just talking about us. We're secure, right? But it's just like, yo, you know, you feel a little envious when your wife is like Looking at somebody a little too long or laughing at somebody. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I guess this is, you know jealousy. I don't know what you know from that point Jealousy is not unhealthy Envy's not unhealthy. Envy's not unhealthy. Jealousy and envy are different. No, no, jealousy is the one Envy is unhealthy. That's the one that God says Because envy is you don't want them to have it. Jealousy is No, no. Envy is you like so there's multiple types of envy, but generally envy is you like what they have So envy reveals what you value in life. Yeah, yeah, but jealousy is you're afraid they're going to take what you have Oh, okay. I thought it was the opposite. I thought envy was like you don't even want them to have it And jealousy is you wish you had it. No, yeah Yeah, no, it's the other way which one God doesn't like I thought now I thought being afraid of what because even when whenever whenever God said it It was said in a different language and people translated it right depending on where you're hearing it from. You saw you described robbery humble What when you say jealousy is when you're afraid somebody's going to take what like the jealousy is you're afraid like whoever Just this dude hating on you trying to say I was afraid a clown was going to steal my wife. Yeah Yeah, that's jealous. Yo, that's my biggest nightmare. You know Wake it up in the middle of the night And you know his crate and a clown is having sex with my wife and he tries to pull out and his dick just keeps coming out longer and longer Why does your dick keep on going forever? This is a nightmare stop See you're jealous of the clown, but you you envious of the dick God leave bro. Let me write that down too. Did you hear what he did? Yes, yes, yeah, I said a clown, but you're really envious of it, but I gave him a big dick for no reason You're just not assuming clowns got big dicks. Yeah, I don't I don't feel a lot of big dick energy with clowns, but maybe they do Not any true, bro. Yeah, clowns got big ass feet, bro Talking about Oh No, I knew my fear was rooted in truth walking around that big ass clown shoes for a reason baggy pants baggy pants Bro, why you think their face is white? They nutted on themselves by accident, bro. That's what it was That's it big ass fucking mouth You know, I'm saying bro. What are you talking about? Oh, no clown sucking another clown's dick Big mouth This is irrational fear. Why y'all made me feel like I was irrational. I don't think there's any such thing as an irrational fear We got to stop saying it We got to stop saying that fear is irrational what I'm afraid of is what I'm afraid of Just because you're not afraid of it doesn't mean that I'm being irrational I mean, sometimes you're rational, bro. Like what I don't know Do you know what I mean? Like like sometimes it's irrational like you just walking down the street, you know And you see somebody and you're soon they're gonna do something horrible. That's irrational You just said that about new york, you said you were rational, bro Listen, hey, that's not irrational, especially when you're here and shit about six-year-old shooting teachers But where was that? I don't know Florida, what was it? Virginia wow my point in saying that is now you got to look out for everybody Anybody's a potential shooter. Hmm. Like there's nobody that you can look at and be like, okay I'm comfortable around that person Which is all the more reason you should start you should strike up conversations with people You should say hello when you're in spaces with people. We're all sharing energy I say it all the time. The only thing that's you know, keeping us Safe is just us not being crazy towards one another So why wouldn't you speak to people when you walk in the room? Just say hello. Let me see what's on your mind what What if it's a clown, bro Yeah Come on, man. Hey, come on, bro. By the way, he's coming from mines No, what room would you walk in where a clown would just be there? If you walk in the room and the clown is just there something is fucking wrong, bro My wife said that My wife said that he was just cleaning up the apartment What are you trying to say, bro, man? What are you trying to say? You just got this mexican clown cleaning up your god It wasn't just him. There was seven of them. There was there was seven of them and they just came out of one little car Hot dog. It was peculiar charlamagne I called the elevator and there was at least 14 of them came out of the elevator at the same time I was like, oh my god, green earth The 14 clown spin elevator charlamagne this is This is my worst victim. I need your heart monitor. Give me a heart monitor right now We're going to title this podcast mexican clowns Oh, oh man. Oh my god. Humble. What else are you covering? Oh, come on. Come on now. We didn't mean to bring you into this No, I'm just trying to I'm trying to figure out how to frame it with his That's a very rational fear of clowns now. I feel like I know bad people that got that fear though I had a fear of clowns since I was young. That's why I think they made the movie it. I feel like it. Yeah Yeah I don't like clowns at all. Matter of fact, why do clowns scare people? I mean, but that's like the it movie and the joker. I think it's brooded and can I tell you Can I tell you a serious thing that happened to me as a child? Man, so what like? What? Let me get to Let me get this laugh out now. This might be wild bro It ain't even like that when people start off. You want to know what happened to me as a child? Bro, this guy is crazy This guy is crazy. No, it was not what you're thinking. Okay. Um, I can buy pack clowns It's not what you think it's something I didn't think it had a bad experience I like a circus or something is actually not that there was a whole pack of it was a positive clowns I'm sorry to have they was going at it, bro. Yeah clown sounds and everything Giggle in like You know the joke is pregnant Now come on in all seriousness come on there's a lot of clowns out there, bro You be sensitive, bro When I was young and my boy Derek's birthday was like the third or fourth grade We saw it the movie now. I'm so old the show was in cassettes. And if you remember It's a two-parter vcr vcr. Yeah, sorry tape tape. So it's a two-parter. Yeah, vhs. Yeah vhs and It's I only saw the first part So I never saw It die So I'm in fourth grade, bro. I'm in fourth grade. I had I we were all sleeping I need to go to the bathroom. Remember it comes out the drains, right? Yeah I'm in fourth grade. I had to ask another kid to come to the bathroom with me while I peed Because I was so scared it was going to crawl out the drain and drain and drag me my my dick back into the toilet You're a fucking clown, bro. Yo I'll try to be vulnerable with you right now. That's not a scary thing as a child, bro No, I the child That's why I don't wash my hands to this day A lot of people ask me why I don't wash my hands. I don't need to be in the bathroom any longer than I need to be I peed I ain't getting nothing on my hands. I got the fuck out, bro So I never saw it die So I wonder if you're still afraid of that or it's just that it's a habit You made it a habit. Sometimes your fears become habits. I feel like you guys need to have a clown on the show Come on now, bro. Y'all should just have a clown here And y'all need to like just work it out like habits. Let him do the therapy session between you and the clown I mean Sometimes your fear become habits But I just I mean you we laugh and but I just thought about that shit like sometimes your fear Just becomes a habit. You're not really afraid Of course, do Yeah, that's ocd when you think about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, ocd is your fears becoming habits Sometimes your fear become your habits and I guess you got to break your habit You got to break your fear to break those habits because that's essentially what it is Like even with the humbles talking about by bringing the if you if if you bring a clown We're like all just like you bring the clown on to face your fear You're really just trying to break your habit, right? Yeah Essentially, you're breaking a pattern of behavior. Yeah, but isn't a pattern behavior habit? Yeah But I'll be honest with you guys right now. I'm down to do this session with the clown But you I might swing on that motherfucker. You're really afraid if he says the wrong thing If he if he squirts that little if I look at his little If you look at his little flower shit, yeah And then he and I'm genuinely trying to compliment him because I think his flowers nice And then he goes, oh smell it and I'm excited to smell a fresh flower And then he squirts that shit right in my face embarrasses me in front of me in my homies Clown's got to step it up Would you would you swing on a clown if you notice he had cauliflower ears? Oh shit Holy shit crown a clown is in MMA. Holy shit. There's nothing I could do to that Holy shit. There's nothing I could do to that. That's a wild ass scenario Yo, you swing on a clown and didn't notice he had cauliflower ears Now you getting your ass beat the death by a fucking clown Bruh, then it becomes a very rational fear. That's a real fear. Honestly, I think most clowns who am in may But are you afraid? But what should you fear in that situation clowns are people with cauliflower is I mean if you swing on them first, I'm afraid of clowns already And I'm also afraid of people with cauliflower ears Putting them together Oh my lord, that's like the last boss Yeah, that's the last boss an antagonizing clown with cauliflower. Oh my because I feel like you don't really meet I think most people who fight don't go out looking for fights But clowns are different, bro. Clowns are different. You should mind your fucking business But they don't do that. The clowns don't do that. Clowns don't do that, bro Clowns can't because clowns get paid off the attention. They instigate. Yeah, they're bad, bro You know what that should could be elite Well being a clown that you know that there's countries where it's illegal to be a clown 100% no katar Um, sweden, seriously, you can't be a clown in those countries I don't fucking know, bro. Yeah Exactly they was locking clowns up out there. They don't play that clown shit. They don't play clown shit Hold on explain this to me. You just it's illegal to be a clown now. You can't be a clown is sweden You can't be a clown in like because his white face Not only that But also because they're fucking crazy those clowns, bro Yo, that ass you can't be a clown They pro phone it but it's like They look at them like turds Really, they look at them like I don't know Look it up right now. See if you could be a I can't see that. No joke french town cracked down. It's it's a plague, bro They are it's a plague. That's in the u.s. Though. No french town Oh, i'm looking at the front. Okay. No french down cracked down on clown. They done with that shit Really? They done with that shit And then the french clowns tried to rebrand into mimes. They're like we're not clowns. We're mimes I'm stuck in a box, but that's the illusion of control they give them. They want you to think that they stuck in a box Right and you know a box. They really stuck in your wife's these piece of fucking shit clowns, you know That's some shit. They being your wife's like, oh, I can't get out. Sorry Sorry, I'm stuck in this box That is somebody with a fear of clowns whoever created that legislation has a fear of clown rational That's what you do rational when you're afraid of something and you want to control something You put some laws on it Damn I never knew that chilled A wall bro For the mexico You need to bring her back around, baby We need a bill to wall for these mexico clowns bro for real. 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I like because we all know Slapping her back is not the right thing to do never put your hands on a woman Surprisingly, I know I agree with you 100% Surprisingly, we did the topic on breakfast club this morning and I was uh approaching it from the angle of what dl Hugely was saying how you know, he feels like nobody's paying this any attention if this was a black guy They'd have been digging up old tweets and they've been bringing up fights. He had in third grade. I Agree with dl to a certain extent, but I think that all of that stuff that he's looking for it comes from social media Like mainstream media isn't really doing that like that literally comes from People online Digging up that kind of stuff and then mainstream media might latch on to it But it's not like mainstream media wasn't you know reporting on the case. Yeah So what are the other reasons that people may not be taken to the series? One of the big things that people were saying was because She slapped him. Yeah, also not okay. It could be self-defense also not okay Yeah, so a lot of people saw it from that perspective. I got that from the callers that were calling in They they thought that well She hit him people need to keep their hands to themselves You can't expect somebody not to hit you back when you hit them. I think two things are true I think that one There's a double standard that we all believe in which is you just don't put your hand on women A hundred percent like and that's even if they do it first, which is wrong and fucked up You should never put your hand on your partner. That'd be sick Yo, if there's no women around the hand of the situation for you run run serious We got to start going back to blaming shit on alcohol too. No, no nobody wants to do that But it's true substances alter your think your thought process. Yeah, but you're always responsible for your actions You can never do it, but you can't ask them if they're on their period. There's other things Humble what else can you do in that situation your humble opinion? Yeah, what is your humble opinion? You gotta you gotta walk the fuck away. That's what I think walk the fuck away You're in public and you famous as fuck people are gonna be filming you Yeah, he he doesn't see people holding cameras staring at him Like yeah There's that and I think I think the big issue with his is because he's been talking about that Especially with john jones and all that All he's been talking about like for a year and they're pulling up posts where he's telling Fighters like you can come back from a lot You can never come back and putting your hands on a woman But I don't know if that's I don't know if that's true because he let john jones back And he let greg hardy back and both of them have accusations of that Yeah So that that that actually those are the two situations that I think kind of helped him right here Hey, why didn't know that I didn't know that this morning when I was talking about it No, but but the thing is he did let them like john jones is going to fight for the title right now Yeah, and and greg hardy was in the organization for a while that happens out here anyways If you're profitable enough everything is forgiven. Yeah, but greg hardy wasn't unprofitable Yeah, that's the other that so it's like yeah, this situation when he was playing in the nfl And then he still got signed to the u.s.c. Oh So I think it's one of those things where like in a weird situation. He's actually been Giving people second chances from these things So it's one of those things where it's like if he was super strict on that and then there'd be no way We could continue being the the ceo Yeah, because if you're super strict on them, it's like why do you deserve a second chance? It tells me that you shouldn't be so judgmental either You know what I mean? Yeah, like sometimes when you and you know, it's so interesting I remember uh minister fracan has a quote minister fracan says when you see somebody You know going through some shit or you see somebody getting some trouble don't laugh learn Yep, you know what I mean? Yeah, and I mean that's to me. That's what that is like You know, that's why cancel coach is such a tricky thing man Because you you never know when you could be in a situation like that You don't know what you're going to do until you're in that situation. Yeah, his mind Maybe he never thought he would yeah put hands on a woman until he realizes. Oh, shit like You know it happened. Yeah, you know, but he's right. I mean and that's the other thing He apologized for it immediately. Yeah, he called him. Yeah, yeah, you know, so I don't know why The media is not reacting to this You know, um, but I think the other thing that people are saying whether they realize they're saying it If they want him to have some consequences So when when dl. Hughley is saying like how come people aren't talking about this He's basically saying where are the consequences and that that becomes like and completely reasonable And but that also becomes um It becomes I don't want to use the word there's like personal investment in that right so for example like I think anybody who maybe doesn't like Dana white or anybody who sees A racial inequality is going to use this as an example of either. Hey, dana white sucks or hey, this is racial injustice and The problem with both of those Are a lack of concern about the person that could be really affected, which is his wife Yeah, so it's like if I saw people really upset and they're only talking about wife and kids Then i'm like really understanding of that like thoughtful But it seems most of the reaction to this is either I hate dana white you guys should too Opportunism it's it it feels a little opportunistic. Mm-hmm. I think the nature of that business. It's not like there's a lot of Family oriented sponsors in the ufc like it really gears towards a demographic they're like violence Yeah, that's the other thing they were saying too is like because he's the president of Ufc and mma is so violent you kind of expect that behavior But the only reason I got a pushback on that is because boxing is violent. Yep Football is violent, but I don't see boxes and football players getting that same. I mean grace I think you gotta look at the corporate side of I just like, you know, what what yeah with the jail though Not for that. Yes, he did. I think he went to jail for No, he was in jail for db. He did. Yeah Yeah, he was in jail for db Fair enough. Yeah, I thought it was I'm looking at it from like if this was a ceo of like disney It'd be a whole different situation versus like What a court like who the who are the big court responses for like a ufc event? Oh, yeah We're there like oh, this is gonna hurt our bottom lines. We're gonna have to pull out of this And it's like, you know, it's probably like they have like manscape or something like that and then that might not You know what's so interesting about that one and you're absolutely right humble But it's like, yo, who do these people think are watching disney? Like there's nobody that's perfect. It's the same thing with politicians. Like we know people are not perfect I think nowadays you trust people less when they appear too perfect That's why the 48 law the power always said never appear too perfect You know what I'm saying? Like you got to have some dirt on you because that's what we're human But I think corporate identity because even when you start thinking about like Like the culture wars that that are happening right now I started to realize that like a lot of it is the people that I know who are complaining about it Are people who work corporate jobs who are being told like for example, put your pronouns in your email Yeah, you know and it's because these corporations are trying to appear perfect They want to make everybody happy and they want to make as much money as possible And then they're pushing that onto their employees Which is creating kind of friction because people are like what like I don't know what this stuff is or what And I think you know, I don't I don't have a Not a five job. So there's nobody telling me how to conduct myself So none of this is something that I have a stake in and I don't concern myself with it So if you tell me what to do then and then not up hit uphold those same values when something happens to you Then I'm gonna feel like you're being a hypocrite. Yeah as an employee. That's what you're saying. Yeah Yeah, and it's also and just like the company, you know So I think, you know, it gets interesting when you think of like a netflix and like how, you know, they're they back Chappelle and and you know, you know when it comes to certain great worse stuff like that But like he's probably making them a boatload of money too. That's the other thing. It's like you We can't expect corporations To be loyal to anything other than making their shareholders the most money. Yeah, but It's also up to corporations To live up to that responsibility Sometimes they blur the line. Sometimes they go, it's important to us that we have A black movie selection for black history month. It's like Yeah, but you don't care about black movies. You don't care about black people You care about making money off people who might be interested in black movies during this month You're trying to profit off of the holiday and if they were like christmas Exactly. Now, literally if they were open about it, it maybe it wouldn't work as well Maybe people wouldn't buy as much stuff but There'd be much less scrutiny When some sort of a hypocritical behavior came around because they could always go now we always about making money So we're going to do whatever makes us money. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely But we have to know that we live in a society where everything is monetized, right? Yeah Like even if whether or not you admit it or not when black history month comes around and you know You do all of these black history month discounts a black history month program You know why they're doing that same thing with women's history above, you know, I had a I had a joke I had a joke about Juneteenth I had a The joke was like, uh, you know, I was like next year. They're gonna be juneteenth sales, right three fifths off everything and uh Literally the next year. I couldn't believe it. I felt like I was living in parody. They were Juneteenth sales Mm-hmm Yeah, not only are they juneteenth sales There are people that put together like juneteenth ice cream ice cream Like they'll do juneteenth meals and even that causes outrage because it'll be the stereotypical stuff, you know I mean, yeah, chicken walk whatever it is, right? So it's like I don't know if everybody's trying To be inclusive or if everybody's just profiting the best way or it works that way because it's like by companies Performatively being inclusive that sets culture. So like Toronto They have they have a really big pride parade, but it's like hyper corporate Go watch this performance on the viagra stage. Yeah, that's literally what it's literally called the viagra stage And then the other stage is like the ontario lot of the corporation stage all the stages are given corporate names Yeah, and then they change the the crosswalk to rainbow colors and all the banks put flags up and everything For just that month for five months and it's like it's super performative But I can see the value of it for like a little kid seeing the normalization of just various cultures What is it normalization of monetization? But monetization creates normalization because once it becomes profitable It becomes normal. It becomes normal. That's the only so all representation is it's congratulations Your community is giving us enough money for us to acknowledge you What you mean normal normalization is when you see it all the time for no reason and you only do that when it's profitable Yeah We're talking about we don't see all the time for no reason. No, like so for example like tacos, bro I mean tacos are normal, right? We see them everywhere Because they're delicious so you can make some money off them, but absolutely But on single to mile there are things but I that's a great example Yeah, because you see them on single to mile because I guess that's a you know I guess traditional disc but we grew up taco bell We grew up eating tacos taco Tuesday like it is normal not because it's being monetized But just because it's normal Well, I guess I guess first we need to like it. Then it becomes monetized once they realize we like it They monetize it and then it becomes so normal once they realize there's a market So like for example, like there ain't no South like so for example Like black folks are probably 20 25 years Ahead in terms of progress and entertainment in south asians, right? So there's no south asian disney movies yet with south asian characters There's gonna be no south asian little mermaid. That's not true though Aladdin Aladdin that's that's see that's that's middle eastern man. It was so mine. It was one. It was one Come on. Call me stupid. But what about the Yeah, I was the one that I always say about and you're like, yo, I just got all these funny racist jokes that he knows everything No, where what part I guess I was a Aladdin man. That's that's that's middle east, but that's asia No, what about the middle east? What continent is the left hander joint? Hold on. What what continent is uh the middle east then Asia, I think it's just the middle east. I don't even think that's a That's asia, bro. Oh, I think what's the south asian? So I'm talking about It's the south part asia all them countries is on the water So what is considered south asian? I'm right, bro. Like what people call like like india park is done Yeah, that's okay. Got you. Got you. Like where there's a billion and a half people got you like that, right? So like it's china south asia. That's east asia Where's the kosh kosh south asia? It comes to me. Okay. The term south asian is dumb because India is dumb because india is not like india is not a thing india is a collect india Now you're getting super existential Not even south asia is the continent the south of that shit It's just like when we call, uh, you know southern americans were like the south and it's like, well, yeah, I live in, uh, San Diego, california. It's like, well, yeah, that's south of But if you're not from the south, you mean cultural. Yeah, I get what you're saying. It doesn't make sense geographically south west But exactly, but it's still whatever doesn't matter. Okay. So what people when i'm saying south asia What people refer to as like india. Sri lanka Pakistan, yes, all of that And then the yeah, so in terms of that like There's no representation Well, because there's no um You know what i'm about to say say a lot of this marvel this marvel's the first one. Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah That that's the first one. Yeah, and that's this year That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's them recognizing That what i'm saying is at the end of the day, it's not like oh, we need to make people feel included. It's more like hey congratulations You You guys have qualified as a market that we're going to appeal to You know and it's like and you see it where it's like, you know, and I think it's fine And then you know, and there's a journey for everybody's so in the beginning it would have been like Especially for brown people it was white guys wearing brown makeup And then they started having brown guys who definitely didn't have access to an accent. Can I can I ask you a question? No, about Aladdin specifically Why are you going back to Aladdin? Also assuming I know anything about Aladdin. Well, no, no, no, no It's like I think that disney purposely made it um What is it, uh, I don't want to say like anonymous. What is the word i'm looking for? Oh, they didn't stamp it Uh, androgynous and yeah, basically culturally androgynous if you will androgynous would be like gender I think right but because If you look at like Taj Mahal, right? That could be the palace that you see in Aladdin Not to mention like the names like jasmine. How many Indian jasmine's are there? Okay Ali how many indian ali's what I think is I think on purpose they tried to make it the whole region Relatable for the entire region because it's just more people that could tap into it Yeah, and that goes back to my point because it's more monetizable But I don't think even though it's absolutely the middle east 100 and that's what I didn't grow up thinking Those are my people when I watched that like I knew like flying carpets Like that's not something that my people or anybody in india talks about or has in Their lore or their culture or their biology or yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes like that's a whole different thing So when you think about that you think persian rugs you think persian Yeah, we're moroccan Moroccan that's that's north africa like with the yeah, what do they call the kufis or whatever like that? Yeah, and so I know they're like most looms in north africa or you're thinking persia or syria All of that. It's persia, isn't it? Yeah, that's what I'll add in this. Yeah. I'm assuming. Yeah Okay, it was everything with al everything with al and that's all original people too. So like that's cool Yeah, but like that's not that's not any of my people They were in syria. That's the syria is still all of that area is like Like babelone in the syria. Yeah, I got carved up Yeah agrabah is based on many places Aladdin's agrabah is based on many places. That's kind of the issue like genie's in a bottle. There's no stories like that Nothing But there's that new movie that came out with an Idris elbow where he plays a genie And again, they're in a yeah Three ten thousand nights and like that Yeah, it came out it came out the same it literally came out the same week. He had that other movie where he's like fighting lions Yeah, the same week that other movie came out as a dude that made uh um mad max He made this really cool rc movie where uh Idris elbow was a genie Do you want to know something crazy when I was a kid? I didn't know Aladdin wasn't white Interesting interesting. I know I was talking to akash about this recently We were talking to be as akash was like I know that wasn't kind of what you said He goes I know that wasn't Us but it was the closest thing to us so it kind of felt cool to see and then I was like I thought Aladdin was a white guy Because I think that they purpose purposely make it whatever that word that we're looking for androgynous But what is cultural androgyny like non-specific chris? What's the word? I'm looking for But like I think they purposely do it like And generic yeah, there's like a certain and obviously the voice You know, it was like fucking jonathan taylor thomas or some shit that was voicing it, right? Yeah, and that's the other thing too. Yeah, let me just give everybody a north american accent So I was like, oh, yeah, I think these are just fucking white people culturally ambiguous ambiguous. Yes, that's good Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So isn't that weird though? I don't know. I just it wasn't even like even like you went by features and stuff like that Like I mean and disney has done such a better job now But back then all the shit was racist. That was racist Lang king was racist as fuck all the Super racists once it's not people then it's like, okay, I could suspend disbelief, right? But like when it's people like I saw in like a little bit of incanto, right? And I was like, oh no this shit latino than a motherfucker. Yeah, and that's more modern So the modern shit they let you know exactly what we're doing it right. Yeah. Yeah, but back in the day You know what I mean like Little mermaid was white, right? Yeah I don't even know And it's interesting because little mermaid is actually based off the norwegian shit. I think it's a dutch story or a norwegian story Yeah Christian Anderson it could so it could stay white because it's supposed to be. Yeah, it's like they're not going to change one line What bro it hands Christian Anderson as white, bro. Hey, don't need to mermaids is white Mermaids are white, bro Mermaids are white, bro. You don't think mermaids are white. I'm not saying that the new version Is it like what I'm not saying mermaids away. I'm saying if the story has origins there like Mulan Is it don't think mermaids closer to the equator or the little docker all I'm trying to say My man's wrote the book he wrote him white That's that's and he invented the idea or mermaids always existed. I'm not arguing that idea. He wrote it. He wrote it And he's from where he's from that's the story. I'm looking at the same way like I think I'll let people change up Mulan They need to do that Hey fair is fair, bro As I said for me when I look at this up, I look at it as performative I don't look at it as them trying to do it to to make Young kids see themselves. I look at it. They're just trying to do it for a cash graph And it's not done genuinely. Take great stories No, I'm not hating on Mulan. I'm saying for example what they're doing with like little mermaid Are they gonna flip Mulan like Mulan is like, yeah, they flip a little mermaid. Well, they flip Mulan. It's a chinese story They need to do Mulan, but taiwan They need to do Mulan, but taiwan. What about that that would be fire They do taiwanese Mulan. There goes your tiktok algorithm I don't notice I do not condone his hate speech My my tiktok and my instagram discover this morning was absolutely amazing 90 more though, you just no now i'm fucked but like I I mean it was I was dying laughing this morning though and and my humor is getting more and more juvenile on that Like it was just guys farting in public and like as a prank And I was howling this morning. It was a guy. He is like a fart machine or something He just walks by people and he just asks some directions and then farts and it walks away And i'm howling and i'm sending it to my wife and she's like why I guess it's kind of funny. It's just i'm a farting. Nothing has been funnier to me than that than that humor right there A guy farting in front of people that weren't expecting it Also, this one was great. This is a good one. The guy goes. Oh, you gotta learn how to hide your farts and he goes You never farted before Yep, ew nasty. Yo humans fart 14 times a day 14 times a day taylor farts You fart 14 times a day. Yeah humans fart enough to fill a balloon every day you could fill a balloon of farts Out your ass taylor What does that mean No, no, no, no, no, so taylor believes that she's actually a thicker presence than charlamagne And how does that relate to farts though? Well, she's I think you haven't asked me, okay But you keeping more in also the bigger your ass the the the more the fart sounds like a high-pitched scream Did you know that Like a big fat ass they ain't enough room for it to just Right No, yours is like this You sound like a mariah carry like you sound like mariah breaking glass. That's what It's okay taylor. Come on. What is love about uh Hummel what is love? What is love? What does that mean for love that I was watching fart pranks this morning dying as a 39 year old in my bed Your love for comedy, I mean god damn that shit cracked me up Yo, I want to ask you are you getting are you getting hate from like the old school comedians now Hate because you like I feel like you're about to steal some spots Yeah, I mean there's a little there's a little there's one there's one There's ones there's doing a little hating, but it's the right one. So you know what I mean I think I know but I was thinking about that Yeah, but I will say a lot of the og's have been like very supportive Most of og's have been very supportive because like I think a lot of them is seeing a lot of success doing some of the things that we were able to do Like the social media stuff and like, you know putting comedy up on youtube and they're seeing like that really worked for them in their career So I think a lot of them are stoked about that And I try to help is you know help out as much as I possibly can to anybody who asks so so Yeah, you also represent a new dynamic to the hustle. Yes This thing especially after when the pandemic hit you're just like, all right. We in yeah, we're in yeah They don't matter what happened and everybody else is trying to figure out. I can't go live. How do I pay my bills? Yeah, like yo, there are 20 new ways. I'm about to make some money. Exactly. You did that. Yeah on top of craft Yes, yes, we worked the years on the craft. I think it is like what are they? What is that saying like it takes a You know 10 years to be an overnight sensation or something like that but But yeah, I think it was just like working all that time on the craft making sure that the quality of the product is good Because you can't market dog shit. Yeah, and then taking some time to be like, okay how do we get it out to as many people as possible and In my estimation most most comics they love The freedom to create the way that they want to create, you know A lot of times comics are kind of like misfit individuals that don't really fit into traditional jobs, right? So they really value their freedom. That's something that I value probably more than anything in the world So finding new ways where they could put their stuff out in the exact way that they know Works because they're out there on the road testing it. I think was like really liberating for a lot of people Uh, the young the young comics coming up right now. That's all they know Which is really cool But the older ones the og's they're like, oh man I know what it's like to have comedy central tell me half the jokes I can't do and they have a sponsorship with With fucking Pepsi. So I have to change my coca-cola joke into a Pepsi joke to fit their thing And now they don't got to deal with none of that shit anymore. So I think that They're like, oh, this is this is a cool time for comedy Yeah, there's a cool time for comedy. I wonder if the young one's coming up or even You know what it is. It's cool. What is it? You want the next generation to not know your problems You just got to make sure you're not you don't turn into the og's. They're like, you know The basketball players are like shit if they play defense on me. I want to drop 60 points You know like as long as you don't turn into one of them I live in north right now. I live in north hollywood and they have like the small club called a ha ha Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I go there like once a week. Oh, yeah And all I want to do is just and I'm seeing the exact same people every week And I'm just like I really hope like that one of these people just blows Was this is it some of you saw that you really like, um, I don't know any of the names But there's one dude. He's like a he's like a pretty boy Um and his jokes are around knowing he's good looking that's good talking about that. Yeah And it's really funny because he still talks about all his defeats Hopefully how women have still defeated him. Yeah quite him being good looking. Yeah It was that and then at one point he called me out where he's just like Told the whole audience to fuck. He goes this guy laughs. It's all that matters Yeah, that laugh out loud with like his she goes this guy gets me fuck all of y'all I'm not worried about you guys. I'm just testing on him. Yeah, and I felt seen at that moment But what happened you hated will Smith and Aladdin? Yeah, what happened? I didn't even see that one. Oh Was that good? I didn't see that one, bro I didn't see that poor will and it's really biased You want to pay some bills? Yeah. Yes. Let's pay some bills. Let's pay some bills Hey today's episode of brilliant idiots man is brought to you by policy genius If you have a family like I do you already have plenty of things to worry about okay A good life insurance plan can give you Extra peace of mind that your family will always be taken care of man I got four daughters. All I think about is their future. That's it Nothing more or nothing less policy genius helps you when it comes to your child's futures Okay, policy genius was built to modernize the life insurance industry. 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That's nordvpn.com Slash brilliant idiots for a discount of your Nord VPN plus four months for free. Now. Let's get back to this show All right, we got charge announcements shots Nah I don't believe that you gotta stop saying you don't have no church announcements You know, somebody reminded me of last week. They was like, yo, man Y'all got so many businesses so many entities so many things y'all doing stop saying that y'all don't do nothing You know what it is? We move on from things that we Create and assist with that. We're not even thinking about it But think about all the product you have in the ecosystem right now. Oh, I got a church announcement Okay, I want to shout out my brother kid super man kid super is a brilliant designer and now he is uh Designing this year is a men's collection for Louis Vuitton and he's gonna have the uh show in paris So this is like a true new york creative absolutely brilliant dude. Wow And uh, so now he's doing that so he'll do that paris fashion week So I want to go out there and check that but i'm super excited for him. That's a big achievement, man So loot the kid super man. Yeah Humble you got how to be loved. Yes, sir. It's out Yes, it's been a week. Yeah Epic. Yeah Well, that's gonna that's gonna make him run out there and get it Yeah, now is when you stop being humble You know what's funny stop being humble humble. It's not it's not it's like I don't know who it was And I promise I don't know who it was and I don't remember the context of it But somebody within the past two weeks said They discovered me on the brilliant idiots But the way that we're seeing it was like they were ashamed Wait, why? Wait, why why a lot of people's guilty pleasure? I don't yeah, I guess I'm like Yeah, like, you know, yeah, I just you know just have to admit it I think discovered you want like the brilliant idiots and I was like, what's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? I guess yeah, I guess they want to find me an NPR or something. This is the perfect place Listen, do you know where the only people that accept that we are brilliant idiots? That's all this world is the full of yeah brilliant idiots You know, that's it. Yeah idiots who occasionally flash their brilliance one of the two Well, it's the gunshot thing. Yeah one of the two, baby So go get how to be loved. It's out right now. Um, you know me man same thing. I want to thank you to everybody who uh Yeah, what's your uh your announcement? I mean, I thank you for everybody who you know continues to support the black effect podcast network You know telly you was just on a uh y'all weekly conference call and you know, I think last year we had like a quarter Million downloads or something crazy like that. You know what I mean? So salute to everybody who's been listening to the brain idiots. I said the brain is thank you for everybody Who's listening to brain it is but thank you to everybody who's just been checking out the podcast on the black effect podcast network We got some I think probably you meant quarter billion What I say quarter million. Oh, yeah, damn. You're right A quarter billion. Yeah. Duh It was a quarter billion, you know, it was a quarter billion. So thank you and you know, we got some uh podcast that we're going to be announcing real soon Um, same thing with black privilege publishing. Thank you to everybody who supported. Oh to mika mallory And I need a co-pack shallow waters. This is a church announcement. Uh, because this just went out We're doing a black privilege book publishing conversation in Brooklyn It's me to mika mallory In Anita Anita co-packs In Brooklyn, let me find the damn date. Uh, february 8th At 7 p.m. We'll be at the brooklyn library. Uh myself to mika mallory and Anita co-packs co-packs To talk about uh black privilege publishing and you know how their books have influenced You know a lot of people's lives. So if you've got a need to co-pack shallow waters If you have uh to mika mallory's um state of emergency We will be out there and I cannot wait to announce the other books that we have coming out. Um Can you give us like a little teaser? No, I can't the only reason I don't want to do that Is because it would be too obvious and I don't want to step on nobody's rollout You know, I mean books are very special to people and I want people to be able to announce You know their work the way they want to and then when they announce I will be there supporting them Uh 100% okay. Yes, and and make sure you check out the projects We got on sbh production gone audible finding to mika, which was the number one true crime Audio series last year for 2022 and check out summer of 85 By our guy chris morrow. Okay. Okay. Now. Let's get back to the show. I did one of your I did one of your shows You did one of the shows. Yeah, I played like a contestant on a love show Oh of the sbh production. Oh, yeah, that's coming out unleash with love. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's that that that that was In that when we announced the sbh productions, we announced the slate of shows. I could talk about that Yeah, my good sister Alicia Renee, you know, she's got a project coming out coming at least with love It's actually our first uh audio scripted sitcom like the the first two projects we put out were documentaries, you know I mean finding to mika and summer of 85, but this is actually a audio scripted, you know series So it's a lot of really interesting people on that. Um, but yeah unleash Alicia Renee unleash with love It'll be out this year. We don't have the exact date yet, but it'll definitely be out this this year Damn dope. Um, so humble you said something interest You said you feel like you have to you had to get out of toronto Yeah, no la Oh, no You said you were thinking about moving to new york and I was like why you in toronto, but I forgot you was in la And I'm like but toronto is dope I feel like toronto is dope for inspiration And I mean like it's such a dope ass city But like the scale is not there like, you know In terms of the population in terms of the opportunity So it's like you have to leave and come to the states Because it's just more opportunity and more challenges here. You think you're good at whatever you do. You come out here. You're gonna find A thousand people better than you so it's just a bigger A bigger pool of competition to make you step up your game And then just access to to money and funds is way bigger out here So that's why I moved to la to explore it over there So all of you feel that have been successful in toronto that we've seen recently You know, I'm going with it the drakes the weekends the Justin Bieber. They haven't created an infrastructure in toronto Um, I mean a lot of them are in musics. I don't even know what the infrastructure would look like But I mean, I feel like the one thing drake definitely has done is just like made room like you don't have to You don't have to like be in his good graces to have a career in toronto and music You know people can do a bunch of stuff and never cross paths with him and he's not going to get in the way I haven't I've seen a lot of independent artists do well that way But it's like yeah, he had to still his success still came from the states and international And now he's building something over there now So I think and that's a cool thing about it because I think Probably, you know in 20 years toronto will probably be a world-class Cultural city like 20. I feel like yeah, like but I mean I mean comparable to like a paris in london in new york at that point That's great because I look at I look at toronto with reverence. It is but it's just young It's just a younger city in a smaller You're talking about like opportunities financial opportunities. Yeah, like I'm a best-selling author and and I'm a best-selling author in toronto and um It would be like a lower middle class life Right, you're a best-selling author here in america and then like you're living good. Yeah, so it's like that Talk to him, you know, so it's like and again, even the country Humble about that, bro. You knew your time's best-selling author. Yeah, man And then like so from that standpoint it's like understanding that and it's like there's only a handful of major cities In canada so you can only tour so much you can only do so much um Yeah, and then like, you know, there's as I said, I love the city though And I and my goal is to move back My goal is to create like I moved to LA because I got involved in like tv writing The script that I'm writing is about Toronto. So I want to take that american budget and show Should yeah, and then I'm I want to be yeah being your family be being myself even for the winter Yeah, I don't mind really I'm doing ice bass, man. I don't know You know what I realized especially living in LA where every day is the exact same. I feel like It's good for the joints. It'll be good for your knees. It's definitely it's good for the joints But I think just having diversity and weather and as I said having resilience I feel like I'm good. I went I went to a birthday party And they had a heated pool and the heated pool was 88 Fahrenheit. I'm Celsius. I don't even know how much that is great People were complaining that it was too cold too cold. Yeah, they were saying it was too cold And I was like I was like this water don't feel cold like my nipples ain't hard like what are you talking about? Yeah, but I realized that's what happens. You just get soft in LA. You just get soft You're just not used to weather. You're not used to anything uncomfortable. And it's like really the same weather I think it depends in LA because you know, you're not talking about the hood of LA, of course Yeah, you know, because I can hear glasses and loans hearing this right now and I'm he's highly upset. Yeah Yeah, well, I'm not Yeah, I'm not and they even have colder weather more south in LA. I guess they would say you're talking about hollywood Yeah, and that's and that's what it is. I shouldn't be saying Los Angeles I should be saying hollywood and I shouldn't be talking about LA people. I should be talking about the industry Because that industry is like social media in real life. Yeah, it's all of that But I think that's what I realized and it's like also like I had a moment where like I was trying to go with some friends and they canceled because it's too cold And that whatever the temperature was like my mom was bragging about how nice it is in Toronto. Yeah, it was colder So I was like there's something about this force of force uses in the resilience and even here I've been like walking everywhere. Yeah and enjoying it and missing that and missing energy You can't walk around anywhere in LA. Yeah, so and again, so the goal is I have to be in America because the scale's here So it's either LA or New York. I don't know anywhere else bigger than Toronto that's what I could see myself missing in in LA would definitely be The interaction with the people and even if I'm not talking to them just seeing them exist And that's the beauty of New York is like you just walk and you see people work And you see people going to work coming from work. There's like a movement to the city, right? And it's a really healthy thing it pushes you and I think when you live in a more suburban place You just check out from work so much easier, right? It's like I go to work and then when I'm home I don't even gotta think about home and that's great for life I imagine like it really allows you to create that separation between like work and play and But it's not great for the grind Because the grind is there is no separation But what are we trying to do? You know, we're trying to settle down. We're trying to have a family We're trying to focus on that and play is really important Yeah, but then also it's like as a creator you need to like like have these conversations be outside to have material Like I said, it's finding that balance Do you think your industry is respected and and what I mean by that is when we talk about Books, right? I think it's because we're I'm 44 but I'm gonna still say younger like it seems like the book industry is still like a Older medium like people respect it from they respect the Judy blooms of the world and you know The people who have been doing it for a long time But when you say you're a new york times best-selling author or I say I'm a new york times best-selling author Or I say I got a book in print. Do you think people give a fuck? I mean I started with music and what I realized was They're they're comparable like you have a hit song going to her you have a hit book going to her I feel like at least with books People who who mess with books They're the quality of them and their relationship with you is better. Yeah Someone can like you for it. I mean people don't even like you for a hit song. No, they like you for eight seconds of your hit song You know, whereas that's not happening with a book somebody read your book You guys have a meaningful connection. I've told people they don't like me but they like my book I've literally had people say I never liked you On the radio on podcast or nothing, but I love black privilege. I love shook one It's a lot of time. They're investing in you. We're talking about hours days weeks And it's not it's not fickle It's not going to be as fickle where it's like, oh, I like their first book and then I'm not going to give the second book a chance Yeah, and it's slow. I think what I liked a lot about Getting into this versus music and everything and even social media It's like this is slow art like this is three years in the making and that's not considered long That's not considered a long like kenshik lemar five years between albums type situation So I like that and that's why I'm trying to get into tv because that's even slower I'm just trying to I just want to do slow art versus this fast stuff It's like I gotta make a song You're gonna make seven million clips to advertise the song Everyone loves the song That's the only song they know and then you go you go out and perform it and then everyone only knows that song Or eight seconds of that because they and they call it a sound Yeah, and I feel like that's heartbreaking if you bust your ass trying to make something and they Think they refer to it as a sound and they're using it and doing a stupid dance Like all of that. I think it's different versus like there are people on tiktok That just read quotes from my book. Yeah and build a following off of my quotes. I don't care. Like yeah the energy Yeah, and it's also just like they're still spreading goodness and you know, yeah by all means So I think for me, I'm chasing that slower art Because I'm trying to make a living off of this versus just choking my ego Yo, hold up that yeah, I'm gonna tell you why I love that because I never thought about that music really is for the moment Yeah, like you can go in the studio and literally write about you know What you went through that day But if you really trying to create like a body of work like that's going to stand the test of time You gotta go live some life. Yeah in a real way I will say though nothing impacts humans like music It doesn't it is the most powerful and I say this is someone who makes comedy for living Someone who enjoys like toiling away like you're saying for like even putting together this next hour It's just going to take time to put it in crying crying And even when it's ready to make it more ready more and I like that process, but I see the way Like I went to the michael jackson Broadway play and I saw just the way that not even michael jackson singing michael jackson Affects you in the audience and your eyes that up and you're watching fake michael jackson as if he's real michael jackson and it's just And then the the first beat of the song comes on and then your brain is blasted with all these memories that you've had The song and like how it affected you and the times and places where you've been like I think that's slow art I think off the world is slow art. I think thriller was slow art. I mean, I don't know how long I'm sure that you could look it up But I'm sure quincy jones and michael Didn't go make that shit in a week and people were also consuming it that way like if I start today From scratch making music The hustle is drop singles singles singles singles singles singles and now make 40 music videos for one single Right, it's not make it's not make something sense cinematic and beautiful And the challenge with that is anybody who's making music today grew up off of the slower art He grew up, you know where you listen to somebody's album and you heard album cuts And you heard, you know skits and you heard a body of work Which now is going to be extremely difficult for you to earn people so for example like Someone discovers you they discover a clip of a joke and then that's enough for them to check a special Yeah, right ours enough for them to hate him forever and never even want to hear Yeah, also also true but in music it does like in music I think that's where it's that where it's like the gap that it moved so quickly To that where it's like you're selling these moments and they're monetizing these moments and they're monetizing these sounds And I think that's where it's it's not there. Whereas again with the book like What I realized my first book I self published I was I was I wrote a book because I was trying to sell it as merch at my music shows And I was like what's better than a t-shirt for 20 bucks So I wrote a book 10 bucks But I wrote a book and I self published it and sold it for 20 bucks at the shows until I did a show in vancouver and and I'm not lying a hundred percent of the audience was female and they were holding the book And none of them even knew I made music and the only guys that were there were the dudes I came with and and I was like Oh because it's easier to to read a black and white text than it is to understand lyrics Yeah, I was rapping about the same stuff all right. Yeah, and then it was like, okay Now instead of playing this hustle and then I had Two or three songs that like got a million streams And then again, you start to realize like you're dependent on this hit. When's your next hit? Yeah, whereas with the book is you build a trust with them. All I have to do is be more honest I don't have to make it a hit or maybe you found your medium I think I think my medium is putting words together I think I do have a dream for music still in the context. I think what I would want to do In the long run, uh, and I'll put this out there now and try to live up to it is like make 10 minutes a year and like go on a DJ clue or the LA leakers and just do 10 minutes. Yeah I did not know you wrapped humble. Yeah, I can rap I can wrap The floor is yours. You need to stand up You need you need a beam again humble the poet the poet came from the idea. I used to battle rap I thought it came from me Good. Well, my rap sounds like spoken words, but not like but I I can rap I have humble. I never knew you rap. Yeah, I follow you. I've never known that. Yeah, you can look you've interviewed him multiple times I never knew he raps. Yeah, I like humble's brain. Humble's never I've never even heard humble say this I Use it, but I didn't think I don't know why I didn't think No, yeah, and then I got into producing during the pandemic. I started making beats But I have I and I work with really talented producers like musicals of vaunt level dudes And so I've been yeah, so I still like I write verses almost every day. Okay. Can we get some bars, bro? Time out. Can we get some bars, bro? It's gonna be a safari moment. That's what I'm saying. I It's not gonna be I don't want just to have All right, let me get no no Here let me look look. I'm gonna gas myself up even more and then I'll and I'll live up to it Okay, I when I first first ever came to New York I went to said we can see the app. I love hip-hop. I went to the place the hip-hop was was born Okay, didn't know how to create a hip-hop. Yes in the Bronx. I had no idea how to get there I remember it was like a mission. Yeah, I get there and there's some dudes sitting on the stoop and like a nerd I walk up to these guys and I'll say hey, this is this is the building where hip-hop started immediately like Fuck you get the fuck out of here And I said That just means uh, hi, you're welcome. Yeah, they did that to me when I went to the Joker stairs in the Bronx They did So I'm like, yo, let me ride for you and if it's shit like I'll fuck off. Yeah, and they caught me off after two bars and then it was all love after that two bars I didn't even finish them first If you don't want to beat let him go a cappella you want to do a cappella I can just do like a pillow. Yeah I don't even know what that was. You bought it. I was put off his little shitty beat that he made He dressed like a hip-hop producer All right, okay, here's the thing if I here's the thing If I suck just tell me I suck okay And if if you like it Yeah, and please help me live out this dream of finding one place once a year that I could drop a freestyle All right, you drop it right here right here. It's gonna be your spot And I'll do it with a beat then and I can just spend my year working on that 10 minutes or five minutes 10 Is a lot. I'm not black though Um, all right. Is there a theme to this? I'm gonna just do one about love. I'm about love. Okay Someone look at him You guys I mean I have music videos. I write and direct you guys who watch my shit. Trust me. I know I don't Since I began people listen, this is this ain't nothing. I'm not even fazed by this people are surprised I can speak English you think I worry about people. That's right. I can't spit like I would not Let's go humble Even though you thought you were my sunny day You left me burnt in the tan line exist around the space where my heart is it was You thought that because there was a dependency we can call that shit love But it wasn't love is something you don't know and we too passionate to pass it up so fast forward Skip the awkwardness the mushy parts to 143 at that moment when we realized the ship is going sink Uh-oh funny now that I admit it but another six or seven months had passed before we split So that's two seasons of bullshit followed by the coldest winter then healing bullets where butterfly wings came Saying stupid things man all up in my brain now my fame against the blame then Yeah, I got a couple fans, but it's only me and you and this room arguing we loathe loneliness so much Love becomes something we lust we was settling like the dust when one of us would grab the others heart and beat it Like they stole something to give it back and act like we ain't even hold nothing The truth is we just fucking scared to die alone, but love don't help us die in pairs So why the fair every new girl I meet makes me see a side of me that previously I never met amazing What was hiding here and yeah, I cried some tears come on in wood and getting jerked up Out my comfort zone wasn't pleasant. I couldn't bear a life lacking security or certainty now I'm addicted to adventure 180 certainly and change is constant I'm sure you're changing too for the better But what I'm saying is I can't change with you is getting old for sure always standing toe to toe Competing with our speeches, but for me to grow I gotta go Okay There's only me you're the one but that ain't right Wait, that would that sound like poetry. What's right? What's rap? What's rap rap is rhyming words mc is communicating with rhymes and then I call myself humble the poet saying I'm elevating it today I grew up on hundred three thousand yet. Well I can I can see that you put up. I have songs I have like song songs with hooks and singing the lyrical content was dead just sounded like a poem Like I don't know why when I when somebody says they bought the rap. I'm expecting like a you want me to No, no, no, no, it's just like a It's like a cadence man. What do you mean? You know in a rap when you hear a rap you the distance here in a rapper rap in here in a poet spit poetry That's not it. That was definitely poet. That was beautiful That goes on a beat you put on a beat. All right. It sounds the same It might just have a little bit more melody to it Even though you thought you were my sunny day you let me burn in the tan line exist around the space You see the difference Yeah, we needed that we needed that bro. We needed that We needed that because I was listening to it and it was like I was like wow, this is beautiful And I'm like, wow, do I relate to these experiences? Oh my finding new things about myself with each person that I did Oh, I do I do like it was it was really great I could do that but I understand what charles is an example. Everybody talks about the safari freestyle His this is not that no his delivery was there. It wasn't no content Content was there But I didn't hear to rap delivery. But when you did what you did just now I'm like, oh, okay. You need it. You need beats or you don't like the beats I mean, I I can do beats. I just didn't know what like what beat they pull up it I want to try to get with the rap cadence Yeah You want to try to get with the rap so hard, but I like hard But I'm not being in your position to be like the arbiter of rap. I could never do the rap I'm just saying like yeah, listen. I read humbles books Yeah, if humble wants to rap, I'm gonna support him in that This is look, this is what happened. I started doing spoken word poetry and coffee shops to meet girls That's how it all started. Yeah Then one day I was in a room full of people and they said some shit about how kids are stupid and they don't listen And I was used to be a school teacher and I was like the kids aren't stupid. You don't know how to speak to them So what I did was I took minority report from jay-z and I put it on the background And I tried to write a poem and then I obviously snapped on to the beat So then it sounded like a rap song and I made the song and I didn't put my name on it I didn't put my face on it had a lyrics video and I dropped that shit It's like 2008 and then that shit in Toronto went viral No one knew my face or anything And then I don't even think I had mine I had I didn't even have humble the poet back then then out and I recorded in some dude's basement against a mattress And then they're like, yo, do you have a rap name? And I was like, I was thinking humble the poet They're like, that's a stupid rap name and I was like, well, fuck you. I'm using it. So that's what it is That's stupid rapping Nice back then it was funny because some guys like, you know social media. That's a long handle And he was right. Yeah, but from back Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was me and I was just like out of spite. I was like fuck y'all I'm gonna use this and then then somebody heard my voice got a wedding and they recognized it off the song Because I was scared back to put anything out Since then like I released like I have Singles I have music out. I have albums Um, I I'm I'm called righteous and ratchet. All right. Yeah. Can we hit one more? Everything's gonna sound poetic right now Should we do a beat should we bring that minority report beat up? How should we just pull up something that's on youtube you can pull up something on youtube pull up something Why are you looking at me? Don't look at me Yeah, I'm not as I said like I was I was heavy on the music hustle Then you start to realize like when I got I didn't the book happened by accident And then nothing happened by accident. Well, I wrote the book. I self published it It got picked up four years later. The book I picked up by a publishing company four years after you self published Yeah, that was that wasn't unlearned. What that was. Oh wow. Wow. I love one because what I did was I got I did an apple commercial in Toronto where I did spoken words and then that put me on the map And then they looked me up realized I had a book and they're like, oh, let's get this the bookstore The actual bookstore indigo, which is like the Barnes and Noble over here They reached out and they licensed the book and then I plugged it in the system It became a bestseller and then that's when I connected with mark out here and then he got me deals out here Wow I mean I got that's how I got introduced the humble dude. Yeah, so they still even in the back It's a right rapper. But as I said, like You know, I grew up as I said, I grew up on like, okay, so I grew up on hundreds of thousands. That's why everything sounds poetic Yeah, that's how he's out. Yeah, Andre got there. But no, you're right. Andre did get there a little later though Like like that cadence that kind of like lower flow is almost like he's just talking to you That was more later Andre than an early on. Oh, no Yeah, elevators was like that What is this New humble humble Oh, you're putting a beat on put on put on one of the songs. Let's put on something Yeah, I want to hear when I put on humble y'all are so great They just went to chill hop hop music and just pulled up a random ass beat Yeah, I'm not a yeah, I'm not I'm not that is why would y'all I'm not core day, man I can't let go just go endless on a beat. What song you want? Tell them to give them the song Uh, you have to spell it out for Taylor. I have a song called hair humble to poet hair humble to poet hair You know how to spell hair Taylor? Oh, I I just fell there probably h.a.r.d. Just probably put humble in the hair She's like I learned that in elementary school This is a video for it too. This is the song By the way, can never skin go and hit the mark like laser beam and we won't stop his major things just throw them up I said throw them up. We grateful that you showing up. So pop that shit and pull it up And that's a lot my leg. I'm supposed to be calling what it do a couple breakups couple makeups now I wake up next to you Right up to the summer 31st of february. You were never coming by your hair feels Yeah, I love the way your hair feels I liked you in july Love you in september like the traffic in the lay. I thought this was forever, but I love the way you're here I feel a little where you're here Sunset on the beach Sun right bare feet on the grass And that time we smashed Outcast on deck And I think you got a lead with this humble like Wow No, I'm serious. I'm like you got a lead with this. No, but even this thing. This is not even lyrical Is the harsh give us the lyrical Where's the harsh? It's all called by any means necessary by any means necessary taylor. There's a beautiful By spell b y Is that strong hair based off of true story? It was just based off a girl that annoyed the hell out of me. I love that press replay shit Because you're reliving those moments. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like it was learning song structure. Yeah that middle one lead with that humble We next so this beat can you just pause for one second to tell you like this beat this beat is uh, uh, vogue So this beat is vogue. So this was like Madonna. Yeah, so this beat was like When we originally made this song just like a fuck you to homophobia Like we we rap made a hard song on vogue because vogue music is associated You know with like vogue dancing and all of that So I was gonna shoot a dope video for this within the pandemic head. So there's some gay shit Just the beat The producer that made this beat is gay He's dope. That's not what he said. He said it's a fuck you to homophobia. It's a fuck you to homophobia beat But like a phobia part. It's rapping over you the homo fuck. It's rapping over vogue but making it sound hard Fuck you the homo fuck you the homophobia homophobia Exactly the people who are homophobic. So fuck you to them Yeah Okay, but he said the producer's gay. Yeah, exactly Yeah, no, like he's My producer's gay Man But the whole thing was like he's he maybe watches this dope ass uh about new york. It's called uh Burning in Paris midnight in Paris. What's that when they fall down the dance? It's about like it's about like the 80s. Yeah, but it's about like the 80s in the 80s And how many of them get murdered and killed and all of that But it was like just yeah about like that whole scene in the 80s And then I watched that and he was he educated me on what vogue music actually was And then we he made a vogue beat and we rocked on it. Madonna vogue was fire. Let's do this. This is a real vogue That Madonna shit was real Oh Georgia fucking Big dick So we hurry to xerry there's an app for that an app the fact of ditching out is you can't advocate for lucifer You spit in our list, but try living like a superstar that's spot like only for that on your head Like hindu rocks we rock mics feed the spot. It's on the regs. See the car Bugger sing Malcolm X. Dudley, Georgia. Fucking rep bugger sing Malcolm X. Dudley, Georgia Got to claim the names I'm so mad you spit that freestyle first, bro I am so upset It's fire, bro. That's what I'm saying. This ain't even that gay No, it's gay I didn't see that much gay things in it. He started off saying 12 inch dick But that could be straight too, but why why widows widows? I'm assuming I think I know but widows three names. Okay, so bugger sing was uh, like the the dude He was he was a revolutionary india Fighting the british to get the mod of india. He don't get the credit the credit goes to gondy Okay, so gondy was like the non-violent sitting or whatever bugger sing was doing the dirt Fighting, you know doing all that and he was executed. Okay Y'all know Malcolm X's story and then Dudley George people don't notice Dudley George is a canadian He's a he's a native from canada. He did a blockade over some The corporation was taken over land and he built a blockade and what happened was he had like a pickup truck he had a stick in his hand and the the police in ontario like the like the ontario Provincial police they sniper them They killed him. Wow. Yeah, and he was completely on on him. So it's one of those So I'm talking about like these three revolutionary individuals, but at the end of the day they all ended up losing their life Got you. So speaking like like I could I grew up in activism? I grew up I grew up with these types of heroes like the autobiography of Malcolm X was like The first thing that like changed my life getting into that mumia bujammal all it is. So I started the music Spitting through the lens of activism and everything was for that and And I was doing that for forever. So it's just finding different ways to do it. So I rep these guys, but at the same time They're all gone What made you want it? What made you pick up that cause? it's it's kind of From so this is this is much later in the journey So this is much more like trying to abandon idea idealism Of course like pick your battle. So like if we think like right now for example, like you have Activism the way someone like Jay-Z does it which is like behind the scenes paying people's legal fees to fight cops or whatever Or then you'll have like, you know, someone who's out loud insane stuff in public Like Kanye or something like that. No, like a Tameka Mallory. Tameka Mallory And anybody anybody said well even old Kanye even old Kanye, you know like George Bush don't care about black You know, and there's always you're putting you're putting kind of a target on your head So I'm like that spot like don't leave a dot on your head like Hindu brats So I'm trying to be as ignorant and smart. I'm trying to be a brilliant idiot in that song Yeah, so that's why the first line is big dick 12 inch. Need a ruler slick Rick. It's it's ignorant But it's clever somebody in the eye because slick Rick has an ipad. No, I caught it. I'm trying to So I'm trying to out that big dick. Yeah, poke him in the optical ipad But I go third eye blurry. I'm like, that's what pokes you in third eye Yeah, so I'm trying to like do this like I didn't ratchet and righteous type situation But the goal is again, how do you speak to young people? Without sounding preachy. All right. Where were right now? I'm with you. Yeah, that was fire Yeah, you notice I didn't ask none of these questions about that freestyle. I asked about these And again, like as I said when I started with spoken word poetry So everything for me comes from the poetic lens and then when I do what music is different, but like as I said, so now Do we believe I can rap? Yes. Yes, absolutely. The freestyle This one this one this one has a whole bunch of other people on it, but like I saw rap on this The freestyle was rap. It just didn't have to beat to make it. You wanted the energy. Yeah, you wanted the energy the cadence I think he wanted to feel like I just wanted to prove that the lyrics didn't suck But I get what you're saying. Yeah, this was what those two songs. I'm like, all right Is I I fuck would I can hear it? Okay, I mean and again, and then I started learning about like making like I learned song structure or whatever I'm letting you know right now So so there's a song called love love don't pay to rent And also that that song here that had no samples this song has no samples either That's what I mean. I'm working with guys that like figured this when was this video made This is maybe like five years ago. This is somebody else's track. I don't know any jumble. Jesus Hey, yeah, I don't trust myself This is rap rap That's not you though, who's it? No, this is this is young kid out Toronto. Uh, I think I don't even know if he raps anymore This was the producer asked me to jump on this joint the producer his name is He's super talented He asked me to jump on the joint. Are you rapping? You just drive a little bit Oh You know, it's so funny I'm working on a strip right now and the strip has a lot of like Races banter in it That was racist You know how you know what I found the defensive okay, because I'm the son of a cab driver. Oh, and that's what killed that kill Yeah, so that offended me from that Oh We got my dad out though. We got my dad out Damn What you said the whole because it was he he said he didn't take it offensive because he found it racist Yeah, it's because Your dad my dad still won't take uber Bro, there was there was cab drivers. It's committing suicide, bro But I met I met the dude because I watched that he did a talk and he started talking about He was talking about new york and he started talking about it being a redundant business and all that And I went the old CEO and I went up to him and I was like, yo, that's my dad's pension man Yeah, that that plate was my dad's pension. You have a medallion the medallion And my dad just got the medallion and you guys you guys cut you guys cut it in thirds Yeah, more than that. It's useless now. So there was no cab driver that evolved with the times A lot of them did but the ones that bought the medallion because the medallions were limited and they were going for half a million dollars The medallion is the right to become a cab driver. What? Yeah, in new york, there's only 1300 medallion Oh, so only 1300 legal taxes and then they would split them up to do a night shift and day shift And then uber came out and made those medallions that were so lucrative that these Dude to put all their fucking life savings You got to find a medallion owner and pay him rent to rent the medallion to drive the cab And I'm not thinking it was a perfect situation So what was happening was people owned the medallions for generations and they wasn't even driving cabs anymore They were just renting them out to be they were just renting them out. It's like a property. It was an asset. Yeah Yo, that's a story. So they killed the asset. Yeah massive. No, that's not good thing I'm thinking about when people killed themselves charlotte. This is for real like they committed suicide So my dad in Toronto, they gave him a government medallion So it was like you don't pay rent, but this has no value Then they sued and they got it to be where you can own it and sell it and then uber came in And the medallion was probably worth At its peak maybe like 400 grand and by the time my dad got out it had to get sold for like 100 Yeah, because we talk about the advancements in technology and how that makes the world better But what about stories like this? I wonder what other things that we think make the world better and more convenient that have actually hurt people amazon Everything They just killing them all in pop store. Yeah I think they also have a department that you can pitch your ideas for them and they just steal them Bro, they wait they look and see I mean like I'm not and we don't complain because it Helps the consumer. So the idea with like breaking up monopolies was always it hurts the consumer But amazon is the type of monopoly where it helps the consumer, right? Because the project is keeping it cheaper and more convenient to get to us to us But like they got all the data for what sells So let's say you sell in backpacks at your store and the backpacks are going like crazy What amazon does is oh wow people like those backpacks. All right, so we'll make the exact same backpack from the amazon logo Amazon basic. Yeah, it's called amazon basics and then we'll Pitch it to the people that are looking for backpacks on our website. Wow But none of us complain because imagine life without amazon right now. Yeah, so the same thing with uber I'm thinking about that artificial intelligence shit that they're talking about not artificial intelligence That's doing the work for people and I use it I've been doing it like where I take a picture of a quote in the book And I'll highlight the whole chapter of the book and I'll put in chat gpt and be like, yo summarize this in 2000 characters Because that's the instagram caption and then it'll just write me my caption based off my work You can write one quote I know I do the opposite I'll I'll highlight the whole chapter which is like four pages And I'll be like summarize this in 2000 characters because that's the the instagram caption limit And then it'll summarize it and then I'll be like now resummarize it for a five-year-old And then it'll take it'll take the big words out. Yeah. Yeah That's crazy. What the fuck am I paying chris for? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Chris is done chris chris done. Yo, it's just all about yeah figuring out how to use it But like yo, it's yeah You got it and I get that like I understand this idea like, you know Like what do you say to the dvd maker when when streaming comes out? Or what do you say to the vcr maker when the dvd comes up? I get it it happens, right? And I think when my even when my dad situation like I saw it happening I'm like you need to retire now like get out now Now, yeah, he got on 2015 like get out now So he was someone to get worse that's because that didn't didn't netflix try to sell the blockbuster I'll try. Yeah, all right something shit like that. Yeah. Yeah, but this is this is the tricky thing when like government Government restricts certain industries to protect The people that are in them It's like those are very vulnerable if there's a business like uber that's coming on It doesn't give a fuck about what the government says So uber basically came around and the government was like we're gonna find you if you do it and they were like, okay Yes, they built it in They didn't give a fuck they got fine and they just bullied themselves into every city no matter how much they would get fine I think like vancouver, for example That if he runs Well now now they they're not in vancouver because vancouver pushed them out It was actually really funny because my boy mark, you know mark who opens for me on on the road Uh, one of the jokes he has about uber and like the first thing he did he went on stage and he was like He's like man I took an uber here and blah blah blah he's getting in this joke and he doesn't realize that the crowd is like He didn't take no goddamn uber to the fucking show uber's not in vancouver. Oh Martin needed artificial intelligence to help break that But I remember it was in Edmonton when the government was pushing back to like all right cool all rides are free Yeah, and then everyone's downloading the app getting free rides everywhere in Edmonton And they're absorbing the cost, but they're getting people used to it exactly and the challenge with this They're the good john oliver thing about uh at and t in the 70s how they had a monopoly and the government Actually got them to break it up and that's the reason we have answering machines and the internet commercial internet So it's like we don't know what innovations are being suppressed right now with the what pretty much the fangs I guess what is it? It's facebook apple uh amazon Google yeah with those big companies We don't know when it's restricted and there's no competition, but it ranges. Well, they can't it's too late now because it was um It was supposed to be the last congress Apparently would have had the balls to do it. You got to look at them like Utilities like that's an electric you got electric you get water then you get facebook It's actually un-american to break them up because you're a society that's uh free enterprise, right? You're a society that we we we want you to be innovative and we tell you if you can create great Enterprise can restrict Free because that's the idea of the monopolies is like if you own everything then nobody else can compete with you And if there's no competition then you're not liberating them You can actually restrict them like that's what Rockefeller did I think when it came to the to the oil He's like i'm gonna buy all the refineries i'm gonna buy the mid-level right So there's like three tiers to what creates a I think monopoly It's like who's creating the goods who's refining the goods who's selling it and he got the middle shit So he's like you want to sell some you got to come to me you want to refine your shit You got to come to me now. He had both of them by the ass I don't see how you can be mad at that So here's here's why you got to be mad at it because citizens united because Corporations have rights and corporations can lobby politicians without limit So amazon gives more money to the government than any other corporation So now all these politicians work for them. Yeah, right So now if something new we trying to start a company and they already have all these politicians in their pocket They're going to block you from doing up. Yeah, right and they block you using different rules and laws and all of that stuff Right. So now you have it. I think the good example is like Public transit public transit gets stopped in a lot of major cities because oil money pays the politicians to ban it And they're like no these projects are going nowhere This bus lane ain't going nowhere Adding more tracks to the subway goes nowhere. They want more highways. They don't want to do like They want more highways. They want more cars, right? So that reduces so and that's the thing. I think if there wasn't money Because in Canada, we don't have that. We don't have corporate corporations can't give money If they weren't in the pockets If the politicians weren't in their pocket, it might be a little bit more fairers Which is because you you could argue that people can't compete with the corporation Yeah, yeah, and then when you have them big big big corporations They have everybody in their pocket like they donate equally both sides both sides So they just hedging their bets, right? Sometimes they got some heat You know what I mean? I'm getting that's why you gotta get that money up. Um fellas. Yo, I got I got to run Yeah, let's do you want to do one afghanidian? We'll do one asking it. Then I got one asking it Yeah, man, we had great conversation today, man. But dude, I like I like the I like the music man That's the first time I ever heard the music. Thank you. Yeah, the music. So what do we feel about me trying to do free? No, you know you're hitting on the freestyle, so I I feel like I didn't I didn't come with the energy. That's all it was. That's all it was the music is great I think you wanted it to sit on the bar sometimes barheads do that You know what I mean? Like and it's like you just want people to listen to them and not Pay any attention to the music but the music the musicality is what drives us You know what I'm saying? It's like there's something outside of it And all right, I'm working on five minutes five minutes. I want to hear the five minutes I want to hear more music if you rap like that in these places. You want to freestyle you'll be fine due to Written shit. You didn't written just now. You just no. Yeah, I'm only gonna do right. Yeah off the pop stuffing I gotta run fellas. All right. We gotta be out Listen humble to poet how to be loved is out right now. Um, make sure you grab that always a pleasure talking to my guy humble, man Um, won't give me your instagrams and twitters humble. I humble the poet and also it's an it's an audio Yes, do a really good job of having our audio Because I am a I'm a recording artist. Exactly. I love all your books. Yeah, the audio did really well Is doing really well and I think you know, that's the future Well, get that and he's talking on the audio not freestyling Peter as always Think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple idiots. You don't know shit. You're right too It's the brilliant in this podcast. Thank you for listening