 Hey everyone, welcome back to the Zelda Informer podcast. I believe episode 19 There is only two of us this week because we had some awesome cool plans We sort of teased last week that seems to have apparently fell through for now. Yeah for now for now Who knows so I didn't really plan to bring out any special guests It's also a little different this week because Because of everything that was going on I didn't really gather fan topics plus for those who know like I don't have that Document anymore that kept track of the fan topics that I just started because of my computer being pride. So That's okay. Well once I get my new set up going which by the way happening this week. I Have like everything coming. So that's cool Thank you to everyone who donated to help out a Week or so ago or two weeks ago over long ago. It was now feels like it happened like eight months ago It was it's been a long process since then I miss having a proper workstation Anyways, I will be doing a live stream of Putting that computer together because the desktop computer and I'm building it. It's my first build since 2007 So come watch me screw everything up and blow up my computer Explosions at least this is under warranty. So that's true. I do if I do break something I can't get a replacement Some of the parts arrived today, I think everything else is arriving tomorrow except the case so When you're listening to those podcasts on Wednesday, it will actually be the day of the live stream I will be streaming it that evening The stream will probably only be on Facebook I want to get it on Facebook twitch and YouTube, but I only can because I don't have that computer put together I have to stream from this really crappy laptop And I am appealing there's no way in heck I can stream to all three services at once There is a chance that I could like have a webcam stream to twitch and YouTube for it with a separate stream From my phone going to Facebook because apparently they'll I heard the live on Facebook stuff works really well It does so I might do the it might be it might be possible. I'm running two separate streams entirely And I when I do that, I'll also be I'll be doing like a Q&A answering questions about Zelda Well, I explained what I'm doing for that book I know we had some people on Facebook that expressed that they're kind of tech enthusiasts to more on the software side And they want to see more in-depth on the hardware side And I used to be like a part of geek squad and went to college in the past like do hardware repairs and stuff I'm way out of touch though The GPU arrived today, and I just took it out of the box to make sure that you know, I wasn't broken Make sure was because the actual box that came in had a big dent in it. So I was like, oh I took it out and I'm like this thing looks like three times the size of the last time I installed the GPU in a computer I'm a little I'm a little out of out of touch because apparently even like the 980s 970 960s were way bigger than back when I installed some AMD Something I don't remember. It was a really crappy card. I got it best buy Anyways, so I'll say the second person today. You've seen him on screen or you've heard him laugh and comment a few times here Is mr. Alfred. Hello The co-host who's a little sad that things seem to not be working out tonight Hopefully hopefully it was a signal in the end for those who who didn't get the tease We were gonna well we talked about on the site face, but we're gonna interview drama or the Current producer of this Pokemon Symphony and the former producer of the Zelda Symphony I think for the 25th anniversary, which was the very first one and then the season one and season two Which obviously right now I think that's ran by what what's that guy's name again Jason Michael Paul Yeah, so And who knows I care to you we're probably never gonna be able to interview that guy I've actually requested an interview with him before he didn't really seem too keen to the idea Hey, I'd rather have drawn anyway, but draw drawing's a great guy and I Have never actually been to this all really any of them. I've been to every time they've come to Dallas. I've See them and the Pokemon Symphony like I'd like to say Oh, they just don't come to my area cuz hey I live in like northern, Wisconsin like that's not an area to come to well They actually do come to Minneapolis, which is only an hour and a half away So it's a well worth the trip to go to a Zelda Symphony. I just every time it's scheduled I forget about it and then it's coming up. Oh man. It's happening this weekend I should get some tickets quick and then I realize I don't have any babysitters I want to take my girlfriend I'll let her experience, you know this really unique Thing cuz she's not really big into Zelda But I think she would learn to appreciate a lot more of what I do here at Zeldin for her But if she got to go see that it could be more than just playing these games on the screen Like, you know, yeah sounds and I took my fiancee to it and she really enjoyed it So yeah, I think it's something that she would really appreciate And actually learn to appreciate more of what I do because sometimes she has a hard time viewing What I do is work Mix things all complicated when you work from home But here's the thing too is that there's there's two ways you can go about going to one of those symphonies You're the Pokemon one of the Zelda one is you can either cosplay or since it's a symphony. You can dress up really really nice So we can be like, oh, hey, what are we doing tonight? Oh, well, they were I'm taking you to the symphony So it's gonna be really fancy and then we're gonna go like McDonald's. Yeah What do you mean McDonald's? Yeah, no, that's actually so maybe next time it comes around I'll go to it if in Minneapolis, especially if I find out it has breath of the wild music That would instantly make me want to go especially since that game doesn't come out for a while So speaking of breath of the wild, let's just get right into The usual starting thing I like to do and let's talk about Zelda and believe it or not We actually have breath of the wild news No, it's not showing off anything new in the game. So sorry But it's more more like insight into some of the development behind the scenes Which is always wonderful to get and it's usually not insight we typically get before the game even comes out So there was an interview done in Japan. I forget which publication it was But the interview sat down with a bunch of artists that have worked on Breath of the wild and some one of them is in specific work also on Skyward Sword I'm not exactly sure how long these artists have been working at Nintendo or working on Zelda games because I just haven't had the time to research them and Unfortunately artists usually don't get this kind of spotlight usually don't get an interview that involves like artists behind a game Especially from Nintendo. It's usually it's a GNM or Shigeru Miyamoto. You said it right this time Yeah, I know. Yeah, as soon as I switch back to the other computer. I'm gonna say it wrong Computer. It must be a computer related thing. Um, actually, I've been I practiced trying to say that before they can pack Anyway, they're just over and over again so That started the timer. Okay, I'm not that I'm worried about going over time with just two of us here So the very first part of this interview that I want to talk about is the one that's generated the most I guess controversial controversy at Zeldin former among our fans And this comes this is a statement made by Takumi Wada I'm sure I butchered that. I don't know how it's pronounced. You're one for two now I guess one for two because I I mean this is how it looks like it's pronounced to be in English So and that means it's totally wrong So he was talking about why he was the person who created One of the official pieces of art like the very first Official art that got released for the game that depicted link shooting a bow It's one of the most common art pieces out there We use that on a lot of our breath of water related post a lot of other internet artists I don't want to call internet artists But that's where they share their art is on the internet have like basically copied that Exact art in their own style. So it's very common. I'm sure you guys have seen it in the video I'll probably pop up a little picture of it quick And he in designing that art Well, the biggest controversy in that art that exists at the time is that it did not have links green tunic on or his hat Which is something we have not actually seen in Breath of the Wild at all yet and Here's what he had to say about the choice of Creating the art in that direction and not having the iconic clothes and he said not having links iconic green clothes and Triangle their hat in the main illustration was a brave decision But the concept that link changes various clothes in the title was decided from the start So this design first and foremost set about to show symbolic Symbolically that this is a different every time That it is different every time that you know your experience of the game the clothes you wear You're never gonna really be doing wearing the exact same stuff every time you play the game So this kind of blew up Because people are kind of mad that there's no green tunic so far that we know yeah, yeah like this People are almost taking these quotes a little out of context because the official art was done in a way to Highlight obviously the blue tunic but also highlight that this is not your typical Zelda game and Yeah, you're gonna have different clothes and that's a concept that was apparently there very very early in development It wasn't something you just decided later on it was something they wanted to do So just to kind of throw a little bit of my side of this out here about people taking it out of context Nintendo has never said the green tunic is not gonna be in the game and This would not be the first nor the last of the game where you do not start out having the green tunic It might be the game the only game out there where there's no point in the game that requires you to wear the green tunic So it could for the first time ever be completely optional In fact it is because it was confirmed that you can leave the Great Plateau without wearing it and Since you can go directly to the final boss once you do that You obviously don't need to wear it to beat the game. So it is optional if it even is in the game So somebody who took this kind of quote from Takumi here combined it with me with Shigemiyamoto saying that oh he doesn't know He said he wasn't even sure if it was in the game once I can air a cough You're watching the video version you saw me a cat come along I muted it because I didn't want to come through my third all the time Well, I I've been fighting a cold here for the last two weeks. Anyways, so Because Shigemiyamoto said that and a thing to point out what Shigemiyamoto is that this is the first of the game He's not really involved with so he's not gonna know what the green tunic is in the game because he's not making the game So he's not supposed to know if it's in the game the only way he would know is if he directly cared enough to ask about it and He doesn't really care that much if you guys remember back at the game awards footage, which was the first gameplay of This game shown off He also shigemiyamoto also said oh hey Ipona and idioma did not like correct him, but That horse didn't look like Ipona that we've known in love. It didn't I just it was a brown horse And we find out Any three that you contain wild horses? So it's kind of like yeah, shigemiyamoto doesn't really know what's going on with this game So you whatever he has to say unless it's very very specific like yeah, this is legit like saying that this is in the game Yeah, those are one-off comments. He makes don't put too much stock in them So he's you know a g a no move has not come out and then like yeah There's no green tunic in the game. In fact, he hasn't really talked about it at all Which is very interesting I'm very surprised that there was a lot of interviews that asked him about that But you know what the demo was so amazing They probably had a zillion other questions that were more important than oh my gosh He's he's gonna wear a green in this game So is this a big deal it is The one thing in the Zelda series that has never changed Link has always had his iconic green clothes at some point But we don't know for sure that he's not gonna have it at any point in the game Well, this will be what we do know for sure though And I mentioned it before is that even if it is in the game, this will be the first time It's not required required, but that doesn't mean it's not gonna be in the game And even well that that big that brings the question though over the years I mean early on in the games the clothing The green tunic didn't really matter it didn't mean anything. It was just to symbolize that he was the hero Yeah Later on it's starting to take on you know, it's the hero's clothes. It's it's got a bunch of symbolism behind it It's important. They mean something And if it's optional and not required it kind of for some people might take away the The importance behind it, I guess even if it's iconic That would be the only reason that you might even wear it. It's just because it's iconic that because it actually makes a difference in the game um I mean, it's very I mean no matter what even in the game or not. It's going it's a very different representation Well, the game is entirely a different representation of the Zelda series as a whole anyways So, I mean you kind of have to look at it like that like the whole game is gonna be different from traditional Zelda formulas, so You know, they're they're doing almost everything different with this one So it's not that it's natural that there's a different aesthetic to link and I wouldn't be surprised if we did I I'd be surprised if we didn't see the tunic in the game in some shape or form I wouldn't be surprised I mean like I'd be surprised if it wasn't at least like an optional thing that you get like maybe even if you get it on a Like a new game plus type mode kind of like if you play through win-waker a second time and you get the oh, yeah The invisible to Nick. Oh, okay. Yep that you get it kind of like that But I feel like it's gonna be in the game somewhere somehow even if It's not necessarily it addressed like it could be in it Easter egg in a shop or something I don't know but yeah, I Was gonna say I don't know if it's gonna be in the game itself because I kept thinking Clueless in this game has like a purpose. Yes, you know, there's temperature. It's not just aesthetic Yeah, it's not just an aesthetic thing although obviously, you know, you can craft certain types of food items So like if you want to do a naked run it is possible But reality is that yeah naked well box or get something on for yeah boxer link for For the whole adventure it is possible like Nintendo did think I had be like oh some people are gonna want to try to do that Well, that's you know, let's give them that option if they want to go that road I mean more difficult. Yeah, they get hunting gather more and play around with cooking, but It's interesting to me that it is possible that it's not in the game And if it is in the game, it could be like a cameo. It might not even be something you can wear It could just be a picture of your former life where you were wearing it Because after all this is a resurrected link who has been asleep for at least a hundred years and It's very possible. He was a hero before and Had the tunic then and then maybe there's a story element about how he had to give up the tunic for some for some reason And so you could end up seeing a picture like a painting that has or a statue that kind of shows link wearing it Although, you know if it's a statue it might not be colored So it might not be green but but you could very much tell that oh, yeah, that's the classic tunic right there Like that looks like it You know and that might be the only way we might see it in the game Obviously, we don't know it could very well be in the game as an optional thing you get from a side quest Or something you could just find out in the world as you're digging into your past Which is what what it seems like a lot of the story in the game Seems to be pushing towards is all this optional story stuff is all about digging into what happened. Why were you asleep? What happened to Hyrule while you were asleep? I do have There's something that I haven't seen talked about but that I just kind of realized That since and this is kind of way off topic from the tunic thing But it's another thing that I think is going to be missing from the game that nobody's really talked about Excuse me Is that in the very beginning of the game or at least the E3 trailer E3 gameplay is we see the voice actress or voice characters say wake up link and so does that mean that we're not going to get to name the character anymore Because it Entirely possible the fact that there is voice acting at least for one character so far It won't character that deliberately says a name. There's no I doubt they have a voice engine in there to try Yeah, I don't think any name you put in it's very clearly going to be link I Kind of see it as No matter what we've named our character and no matter how much Nintendo has said we are link so Link is link and always will be link As the Nintendo has said he will always be the person starting the main games So I don't think it matters like I think they still might let you name the character Whatever you want, but you're not going to be confused when it says, you know wake up link. Yeah Because I just don't see them taking away that the ability to do that, especially in the game that let's let's you customize things so much Already to take away like the only customization that has been there from the very beginning seems really weird and pointless The voice acting I guess you could say gives a point to it, but if it's only very few characters that audibly say You know your name and throughout the game that then it's I don't think it's too big of a deal But you know that again, I'm also a veteran so you gotta kind of consider. Okay, what if someone's a first-time player? Are they gonna be confused who the heck is link I named him Bob Although the game clearly references to you I think it'll become obvious, but I could see how that might feel that are weird But we'll see, you know We don't know I mean Nintendo could try you know, maybe maybe if it's if you enter link It'll say wake up link But if you know something else it'd be like wake up hero or something like it'll say wake up hero or it could Just say wake up and then the text box will have your name, but it just won't say your name. Yeah So I mean there's multiple ways I guess they could work around that and still keep it in the game pretty easily And just obviously if you want that full name voice acting make sure you enter link and that I'll probably that if that's true Then I will probably always use link just cuz I want to do a girl woman Zelda whoever you are say my name Navi Say my name not hey listen Tell me to wake up. Tell me I got something important to do. I want to do it So Yeah, it's just really interesting We have no idea what's gonna happen to green clothes I think a lot of people are making much to do about zero new information Just people that are already afraid it's not going to be in there and see another mention by by someone who is working on the game That they deliberately created art to not show off a green tunic Again, this is all decisions that was made a long time ago So it's not really anything new It's new for us to know about it, but it's not really given you any Insight into whether or not there will be a green tunic So yeah, I mean that's that's one interesting part from this interview the other one the one that I actually find to be More interesting, but it seems to be less talked about because it's not as controversial Because you know controversy makes people even though the controversy is totally made up in their head right now This one also comes from an artist working on the game named Satoru Takazawa, I'm sure that's not how it's pronounced in Japan But I don't have a pronunciation guide guide for right in front of me. You know what I should start doing that more often I should start looking up. I should like start putting the pronunciations next to it in my document here So it says the bow is a very important item this time around Obviously talking about Breath of the Wild and you can use it from the start It is also very convenient to use and it was even used symbolically in the 2014 promotional video producer A.G. Ayanomo, I'm sure I just pronounced it wrong again has been screaming I know the first time I nailed it. I keep getting worse like every time Has been screaming. I want to endorse the bow from the initial stages of development Then he laughs they they laugh a lot in general So we decided easily under the direction of making the bow appealing So obviously it's been no secret since 2014 the bozo pig deal It showed off a slow motion flipping off the horse mechanic back in 2014 that wasn't even in the game yet And then they decided after that. Yeah, that was really cool. Let's put that in the game Now that's something you could just do whenever you feel like it Obviously, you know, you have to jump and actually be falling so you can't There are some tricks to it based on my experience with the game anyways to get the best use out of it, but it's It's awesome Well, what do you think about? Nintendo and well specifically, you know, the guy leading Zelda right from the get go being. Hey look The bow is a big deal. So let's let's make that the focus like not about the master sword or not about You know some random new item in the game or a random specific character like oh about Twilight princess or about an ocarina of time This is about the wild and We want the bow to be what people Remember the most I guess in terms of item like in terms of combat in this game Well, it looks like There's a few things to be said about this and I don't know a hundred percent if First thing if you can upgrade the bow at all like if there's different ways you can change it I don't think there wasn't that you three demo. I think I Think Nintendo said that there isn't a way I'm trying to remember. I don't I don't remember the exact quotes I remember I'm saying something on the lines that there is no way to repair or Upgrade a specific item like say taking that little woodland bow You have it turning into this awesome epic amazing one, but there are there were like different versions of the bow that were stronger That you could find and use I Know that and it's possible that like you might need a specific bow That has a certain strength to be able to get a better bow That's hidden somewhere else that that could be an upgrade that they could use instead of being like Oh, you take this over to the blacksmith and he adds some iron plates on it and now it shoots better I mean like I could in Terms of that bow the specific one that they've been showing off Since they announced the game with that trailer. Yeah, the the main one Yeah, and I think that that fits in the demo had I'm sure remember from what I remember using I use three different bows in the demo We'll have to go back and look at that and the one you the one that you get to use right away And the one demo is just a basic wood bow. There's nothing special about it But the one I think you're thinking of has like those special design like design Yeah, yeah And that might be that might end up being like, you know, the most powerful bow or something And I think that that you know them emphasizing emphasizing the bow and that specific bow and all the promotional art the one with the Sheikah designs on it kind of fits in with the theme of the game where it's not really about the highlands anymore like if this isn't really about High rule like it is kind of about how the whole land got to the state of disrepair that it's in but like we're seeing the Sheikah slate the Shrines like everything seems to have to do with them even the technology used in the game And so the bow kind of speaks to that as opposed to like something like the master sword which has always been a highly in weapon first and Where we're seeing kind of a shift away from that So I think that that would be and what they're doing is smart if they're continuing to go with that kind of trend in the game where it's a Sheikah centric story or theme in the game to whereas, you know Skyward sword where it was focused on the master sword and how sure it became the master sword in a highly in type of legacy And I think that they're going along with that in the entire game as well It's correct me if I'm wrong. I know there was some speculation on some of the early imagery and stuff about like links cuffs and everything like having like a grudo sign on them And obviously, you know, there's a potential long-standing history between the grudo tribe and the Sheikah If I remember right Back when I was a kid playing ocarina of time Which to me probably had some of the biggest emphasis on bow use. Yeah to that point And again, it was mostly for puzzles. You can use it in combat, but it was a mostly a puzzle item at the time I Remember that one of the the like when I think bow and arrow from ocarina of time I keep thinking of that that minigame they had with the grudo. Yeah, it was the grudo at the grudo fortress and it's like, huh? There was some the last time the bow had like an emphasis in an area. That was it I wouldn't be surprised if link wasn't a hyena in this game. I Could see him being a Sheikah. I doubt he'd be a grudo just because he doesn't have the dark skin It could be I mean he could be a hyena, but then Was raised by the Sheikah something like that like like princess Zelda like when became Sheik she hit out with them for seven years or whatever You know it I always say I mean obviously we haven't seen enough of the actual Sheikah tribe To really know you just see like remnants. Yeah, like a Distinct look. I don't know. I mean, I guess those you know, you could say Maybe there's a distinct look because now we have shrines that have all these old Like priestess like, you know beans that were apparently Sheikah or related to the Sheikah in some way But I'm not you know, I'm not sitting here thinking man I see that and that's what that whole tribe is like because that's not the case Impa is one of the most well-known Sheikah out there And she has looked completely different in so many different games She doesn't even have a standardized look So it's like hyenas have kind of always had like a standardized visual Presentation to their look and this link still seems to have that visual presentation From the facial features to the pointy ears But then again, we don't really know if the Sheikah is like a race or just a tribe of Hyrule or something Yeah, they could just be a tribe of of Hylians that you know have magic abilities or you know, whatever the case may be We don't there's so much unknown about the Sheikah like when you say who are the Sheikahs like well they protect the Triforce and the royal family sometimes like but like only when they feel like it and So there might have been like this bad thing that maybe sort of happened It's been hinted at that had to do with like the tribe splitting But we don't really know if that's canon and we don't really know anything because they've just been this super mysterious tribe for 20 Plus years that we know nothing about We'll find out in this game and that that could be this is definitely the first game In the series that is clearly very clearly not hiding the Sheikahs Like it's everywhere. The symbol is everywhere like this You're the one of the main items to use in the game is the Sheikah slate It's like man Sheikah have to the if we don't learn anything significant about the Sheikah in this game I'm gonna be very disappointed. I don't think we ever will at that point if we don't learn about him from this game Yeah, because you have Sheikah symbols everywhere. They're clearly something happened that involves the Sheikah and it's just If we don't hear about in this game that I I mean, I guess if you go straight to the end of the game You maybe you don't hear anything but I think this The game speaks to like just not a certain nostalgia, but the entire idea of all of these pre-existing cultures and tribes and characters that they've already made And just using them again and bringing them back in a significant way Like the corokes are back like that's a something that came out of a left field So like I wouldn't be surprised if we saw like maybe not the Zoras from Maybe I don't know not skyward sword, but if we saw them for if we saw like the ooh the Is it the Ruto tribe? What about him in Rito tribe? Sorry. That's what I'm trying to do. Yeah, Ruto was a character Yeah, I always get that confused I wouldn't be surprised if we saw them again But the fact that we're already seeing past characters and past cultures and tribes in this game I think that the Sheikah are gonna have a big emphasis So I think we'll get some story about them and I think I swear if it's like this is the game where they're all wiped out Again, and we don't even see like outside of the ones in the shrines Don't ever see one. It's gonna be like or the only one we see is Impa Like are you kidding me? Are you like give me at least a flashback to their heyday or what if they're all named Impa and that's just what we're Missing like I want to know what with this big war I don't care if I can't travel back in time like the game You know like so many others all the games that let you do and see what happened, but it's like Man, I at least want like a cutscene that that explains it or something. I don't know I've she has always been like the one thing I really really want to know a lot about and I know I rag I'm occupying a time a lot, but the mystery that The further mystery that is built around the Sheikah in the game is actually something I really like I Hate that. It's just never been explored Wasn't it heavily not heavily, but wasn't it built up upon in Twilight Princess kind of a Little bit in Twilight Princess. It wasn't super huge in there What's that word sword had had some big setup for it, but you know that was all before You know before everything else and we don't really know how big a role they had before skyward sword And in skyward sword again, it's just Impa So we still don't really know You know, we just know it's this in tribe and it's been hinted at at one point being like this big Like a big deal tribe like it wasn't just Impa. It was like this whole community Kakariko village in our time was literally the home of the Sheikah But yet we never can see more than one in the game a granite as I said because of the shrines is potential We're gonna see at least a hundred Sheikah But again, it seems more like remnants because they like poof in the air and they're gone So it might not be like, you know, a living it might just be like a spirit of them I think it's weird too that they've all like it's been quote unquote established That the Sheikah tribe have always served Hylia and Zelda Or the the royal family, but every time we see a Sheikah, there's just one of them throughout like every single game So it's like Is there history just one person is the tribe just one woman That just keeps going from game to game or what? Yeah, that never dies. Yeah, it's just never died Even though she got ancient in Skyward Sword which happened a hell of a long time ago But yeah, I don't know it I just I hope it explains a lot So one time I just want to get too quick. It's not so much a topic It's just kind of something happened at Zelda Informer in this past week the Zelda Informer forums have quote-unquote relaunched We say that because really It's the Zelda dungeon forums the ZDI forums that are now called the quote-unquote the ZDI forums That have been totally re-skinned to match Zelda Informer in fact if you go to the forums It's a Zelda Informer at the top So it's very hard to really unless you're in the know as in like staff members You probably won't be calling them ZDI forums You probably just call them the Zelda Informer forums If you come from Zelda Informer if you come to Zelda just call them the Zelda dungeon forums But either way it's a combined forum community between Two of the three largest Zelda sites in the world. No surprise. Both of those sites are owned by the same person now so Um The forums is one thing he wanted to combine and the Zelda Informer forums have been down for a year or so ever since we switched servers it kind of broke things and Uh Yeah, and I and to anyone who used to be part of the old forums, you know check your emails in your spam folders. I did send out a email about the new forums because We didn't just you know announce. Hey the forums are back. Go check them out We're doing a giveaway to kind of promote New member activity and get you guys back involved and these forums Um are actually active. You know like the old Zelda Informer forums or it was like three or four people It already had 95 active members before we ever promoted anything and I know in the last Four days there have been over 175 new registered members that have made at least one post Um, so the forums are like booming right now. Now is the time to get in when everyone else is getting in get Appcommated. Have a good time. There's a lots of breath of the wild talk going on there Even more so than we talk about in the podcast if you can believe it or not Um, and I was in they don't just have that forum games. Um an rpg thing. I believe they have set up. They have mafia Mafia. Yes, I've never really got into the mafia thing, but some people have said it's a lot of fun Um because of what I do at Zelda Informer I probably don't have the time to really get deep into that but it looks a lot of fun I've always wanted to do something like that. Maybe if I ever retire I'll be I'll be really active on the forums and most people like play checkers or chess Nate just lurks forums and plays mafia But no, you will see me on the forums I'm usually in the suggestions forum trying to listen to what feedback people are giving And then I I pop in at some of the breath of the wild threads I care about Um and in the general form. So it is a great way Um to you know get to see what I do outside of like because what I do on there I don't really call it work. That's not what I'm paid to do. I'm not paid to like be active on those forums That's just something I like to do be involved in the community and talk directly with you guys And so are a lot of the zeldaformer staff because all the zeldaformer staff are required to be registered on the forums because we Use them for staff related reasons after last because he might not be registered. I am registered I have posted on there don't okay Okay, okay, I don't rock me Well, like everyone changed like their usernames when they registered on there. So I don't recognize it I think mine is just Alfred. I think I was like probably Well, yeah, just like mine's just in the standard run for a chance. Yeah won't be hard spot in me. Um So So as I said, we're doing like this big giveaway There's three kind of sections to this giveaway first is guaranteed prizes And these are for brand new members only so literally if you have not been part of these forums ever Make a new account and do the these following things and you will get a guaranteed. I believe it is a link plushie Guaranteed no matter how many people join so seven thousand of you join and do this which will probably make massies cry Because he's won't pay in for all this stuff. I think they'd be fine though You were gonna guarantee try not that I think massies crying is funny, but I think it'd be funny It would be amazing I would like to see us get to the point where massies has to cry Over these link plushies that he's specifically selected because it's something he can offer that's cheap But if seven thousand people meet the requirements, it does Something doesn't seem so cheap anymore as he takes it alone to pay off the But hey, you know what that also means our forums are super super active And that's always good. Uh, so number one you got to register at the forums There'll be a link down in the description to go do that Or just a link to the forums and you can figure out how to register from there You must make a post in the contest thread So there's a thread about the contest itself and you have to put your favorite zelda quote in there So we're all zelda fans. I'm sure we all have our favorite quotes Um, so we'll put I definitely will put a link down to that thread down in the description And then on top of that you have to make a total of 50 posts during the month of october Uh, as of as of the time this podcast will be like it'll be october 5th So you have 26 days to get that done. Um, really not that hard. That's a couple posts a day Um, there are some areas where the posts don't count for your post count But those areas are you'll figure it out in a hurry. I can't I think the forum games area Is one of them where it won't that doesn't necessarily mean that when we're doing these prizes We're not gonna like if you make five posts and then in your 45 posts I'm sure we can figure it out or you did make 50 posts because the contest rules don't specify That those forums don't count but on your actual post count It won't show but what the system still hasn't logged. So we'll be able to we'll be able to look it up Just keep that in mind. Um, just post a lot. That's that's all you do Yeah, just post on and there's a lot of people that are talking right now a lot of zelda fans A lot of zelda former staff a lot of zelda dungeon staff. It's a great place to just talk about zelda The second tier we got going on is a larger prize And it says in addition to the guaranteed prizes. We're also offering a larger prize for new members only All new users who win a plush doll automatically get entered in the raffle. So you don't have to do anything extra Besides what you did to get your plushie to Get into this raffle and then whoever wins the raffle will have a choice of a number of items because we don't just want to like You know say oh, it's only this item and if you win it you already have that item well then tough luck Um, so some of the options are a video game of your choice up to 60 dollars. So obviously no collections You can do with it. Yeah, no no collectors editions unless Technically, uh, the bundle for fire emblem fates is 59.99. Yep So you could get that it just can't be over 60 dollars So it's like a 3ds collectors edition that happens to be under 60 that would count unless it's something that Um is never in stock or if you really want massies to buy like a textbook or something. That's like 60 dollars Yeah, yeah, you know whatever. I mean, I'm sure he's he's really flexible. Um, it could also but but here Here's the kind of the kicker with this though. Um, it could also be the legend of zelda manga box set Which is a hundred dollars minimum Um, so that's always something to consider if you want to get the best bang for your buck And then the replica hiding in shield Oh Hey, watch the swearing this is the zelda proper podcast Gotta gotta watch it bleep bleep anyways Um, we're late on that one. So then uh, yeah, I know why I didn't know she was going to be swearing Uh, and then the replica hiding in shield is also an option I don't know which replica is obviously there's a lot of different ones out there Um, I doubt it's like a 300 dollar one You're probably looking at like a 50 dollar one off amazon or something. I'm at 100 sure It'll either be wooden or metal. So you're not gonna get like a foam one It's one of those ones that you just got to ask ask him. It's only gonna be one winner Um The grand prize Uh, which is the last tier is going to be for all members of the forums whether you're already part of the forums Congrats or if you're new Qualified for this prize. You do need to do a bit more than what the new members have to do Um, you have to make at least 100 posts or over 100 as it says during the month of october And all new and current users that qualify for this post requirement will be entered into a raffle And in that raffle you get to win a ganondorf first four figure statue. That's like a 400 dollar value Yeah, we said it's over 250 dollars. I don't remember what it cost her now I think I think it was like 280 the one that he was looking at Yeah, they're pretty expensive. They're they're they're really expensive and they're really awesome I don't know any of them because when it costs more than the consoles to play the game Yeah, I'm with you on that one if it's not a pop figure. I probably don't have it Like I have some of those ones from gamestop But those were a lot cheaper than 250 bucks. Well, yeah Sometimes they'll give like first four figures or figma figures for like clearance at gamestop, but you're not gonna find like a high-end Ganondorf one so so some people might have questions about you know, are there any restrictions to this like oh, I'm from Bulgaria, does that matter? No, it does not the price is going to be won by anybody worldwide So if you're from a smaller country, no worries, we will find a way to get it to you whether it's from a local retailer If we if they don't allow international shipping into that country. I know some countries are really restrictive on that stuff Um Additionally while we want to encourage activity we want the activity to be quality So the moderation team will be reviewing your post to assure that there is a degree of effort put into them So don't come to the forum spam it all up or post like, you know Just emoji posts or like three three word posts that's it. We want quality discussion um And there's because there's so so much activity right now It's really not that hard to find discussions. You're probably interested in because hey, you're you're listening to a zelda podcast Come on. You clearly want to talk about zelda or at least Read or listen to other people talk about zelda um So oh and also some someone asked a question about shipping uh on the facebook page for it It doesn't matter where you're from and how expensive shipping is it will be covered by us So you don't have to worry about not by having to cover any well, but by zelda informer the entity or I believe it's uh I'm trying to remember it. I mean massies owns his shell company massies incorporated. No, it's uh Dungeon network or something. I can't that sounds really bad I can't remember what what I'm asking. This is my dungeon network. I don't remember all these things the company listed on my contract I don't even remember um Anyways, uh, but yeah, it'll be paid by by the man. Um, so you don't gotta worry about that. So that's that's really cool Um, go check out the forums. I'm kind of I know it was a really long ad but um I mean it's something cool. We've done that. We have not had in a long time um Let me bust out some topics here. Um, so I was thinking about talking about one of the one of the daily debates We have we just did a lot of talk with breath of the wild um So I'm just gonna bring up because we only have a couple minutes here before I want to move on to um our favorite things that happened in this past week and Uh I just want to bring up a brief thing about nx and I know I'm tired to talk about Because we don't have any new information, but we did get uh ubisoft ceo coming out and talking again Again Again, uh, just saying that nintendo is going to be back in the race with nx um That's it. Didn't really say anything else Uh, this was at an investors meeting when they were announcing their I think their q2 earnings or something um, and There was like a q or he opened up one of his things by saying that So just briefly mentioned nx, which is interesting that he brought it up. Um, but again ubisoft has been pretty pro nx this whole time. They were pretty pro uu as well Yeah, that's one of the things to consider is that Ubisoft is really liberal with their words So they'll just say stuff like this And then not necessarily follow through with it like they were like, yeah, we're big we use supporters and feel like we're gonna We have that proof of concept game which zombie u which was great and then they just kind of stopped So I well This is where um Well, I mean like you've got you've got a lot of dance and stuff But got your raymond legends, but you didn't get like their assassin's creed three got assassin's creed four But those really weren't like the definitive like better versions of the games They were never going to be the definitive versions because the wii wasn't as good as exactly for ps4 But they were still really good and they were better than the 360 and ps3 versions in many cases although The 360 and ps3 I believe got dlc and the wii you did not that was the kind of thing that upset me was the lack of dlc Then again, the sales weren't very high. So they might not like okay if say Well, I think it was 400,000 bought assassin's creed three Well, if you figure 400,000 bought it and only 10 of those people ever really buy dlc Is it worth porting it over for you know a few thousand people? Um, probably not probably not financially anyways Um And in black flag, they just wrote it off right away that it wasn't going to add but black flag Still one of the one of the better looking wii you games out there. Yeah They did they did a really good job. I was like they didn't get lazy with the ports. It just It didn't matter It was never like hey, we got you know this coming out for ps3 or ps4 or Whatever it is. Oh, also it's coming out for wii you Kind of a thing like you didn't really wasn't like You know like nice to bring in like really even legends fantastic and actually sold best on wii you But there was controversy around that because it was supposed to be exclusive And then because zombie u did sell as well as they had hoped And assassin's creed three did sell as well as they had hoped They kind of backed off on that and then they were kind of jerks to the developers of the game not really communicating with them Um So i'm not trying to paint ubisoft the saints here But ubisoft compared to pretty much every other triple a developer out there at least tried Yeah, they created a then exclusive game, which some people say oh zombie is not exclusive anymore Yeah, but if you want the best version of that game, you should probably play it The best version is on wii you uh, even despite the the bumped up fps and graphics on the other side It doesn't matter. It's missing like a core mechanic to the game and what they replaced it with Works, it's just not as good zombie u is one of the few games on wii you that actually Prove the concept of the game path um So if you haven't played zombie, you go. I think it's a great horror game. I know it's got like a 76 score a metacritic Which isn't terrible. It's just uh, you know, some people are kind of iffy on it, but a lot of people like it um It's just one of those things where you have to You I don't know. It's a very niche game. I think you have to be soft Ubisoft, um, I give them props for supporting as long as they did Um, I don't excuse the rayman legends snuff who mostly for the developers I don't blame them for like bringing it to other systems. They have to make money Uh, and if you're not making money on the wii you it's really hard to keep justifying wii exclusive games Yeah, that's the problem too Is it wasn't like one of those games that you're like all people are gonna go about and buy a wii you for rayman's legends? Oh, yeah, so, you know, I kind of understand that but still yeah, so um No in the past, uh Uh, I can't even pronounce it. Yeah. Yeez. Goumont or whatever. I can't I know. I can't pronounce his name. It's okay. I'm really just keep going Uh, he he's the CEO of ubisoft and he actually confirmed earlier about there is going to be more than like just dance Like they have more than just dancing the works right now. Um, and he mentioned something about How they like new hardware that experiments because they like to experiment And for the most part, he's kind of true Ubisoft has been there for all those experimental harbor launches with something new Just dance as much fun as we want to make a make of it. It was an experiment on the wii And it's interesting to note though that they're not coming out with an assassin's creed or far cry in the next few years So or so they've said So I wonder what they have up their sleeves. There was just an x there was just an assassin's creed leak I believe no it was I thought it was leaked that they weren't making ones or that they were making one But it wasn't coming out soon So it's not going to be like next year the next year for that Well, because they didn't release one last year, right? No, we added it. Yeah, they did it. It was uh syndicate Yes syndicate and then they said they were they said they weren't they were they're going to take at least a year off So that means none this year We have there was a recent leak about it being the game that people have kind of been asking them to do Like for the study in egypt or whatever. Yeah, um, but again, you know But all on confirmed at this point. It's just a like an image that that leaked out But last time this happened ended up being 100 true Um, it just makes me wonder what they're gonna do for the nx If it's gonna be more exclusive content I'm guessing there'll be something experimental Um, based on whatever the nx is Uh, obviously it'll be just dance. They've already confirmed that. Um, and who knows, uh They did it confirm that dishonor 2 would not be among the games because it's too far along in development to even attempt What's coming up november 2? Yeah, and that makes sense like it As as an nx user, I don't really want games that already came out I want games that are coming out in the future and I want them at the same time other people get them um, I don't pc users get used to getting delayed a little bit, but um That that's kind of the same territory of what happened like with watchdogs on wii u When even batman arkham city Didn't do too well on wii u because it came out so much longer after arkham city Yeah, it just the wii u wasn't a priority I mean you could argue that we was lucky to even get it which it kind of was because there really wasn't a market for it, but um You know, there really wasn't a market for watchdogs either But it's just It is what it is the only way you're gonna build a market for those games is to release them when everyone else gets them Yeah, um, and you have to do it consistently and you're not no one singular game is going to build you that audience Um, and that's what I kind of think if assassin's creed wasn't already on the way down It it actually might have shown some growth on the wii u And black flight was actually one of the better entries But again at that point they had already like, you know made decisions ahead of time that was going to Limit the sales like the no dlc So people are going to go I'll go get it on pc then instead Or you know or on your position fours or xbox 360s and all the stuff Um, and that is one of the weird things is when you when a game does come out like that Concurrently with the other consoles and so doesn't get the dlc like one of the weirder things and this is kind of like a really like obscure Thing that coincided with this but the lego batman 3 game didn't get any of the dlc that the other games got Which was really weird because it came out around the same it came out at the same time Just didn't get any of the dlc for the game Sure So we don't know all I want from movie soft is you know, whether they give us an exclusive game or not Um based on their history, there probably is maybe I don't know if it'll be at launch But there might be something in the works for the holiday the first holiday season All I care about is that their future triple a games that they release on other platforms Are also brought to nx at least for the first two years And then you know, obviously if they're not selling well, they're not making any money by then I totally understand they are a company. They are a business I don't blame them for abandoning the Wii U and they did Outside of just dance because you got to make money And if you give it to if you give it, you know a full two holiday period like like they did They went two full holidays with the Wii U didn't really make much money You're gonna get out um the nx obviously might have greater sales potential if it is a handheld and hybrid because Uh the 3ds, even though it was the worst selling console sold 60 million Which is a heck of a lot more than 12 million we use So there's obviously a bigger market that share that they're probably going to get anyways just by it being handheld So um ubi soft probably is going to see higher sales You would figure because there should be a higher and so I wonder what just dance on a handheld would be like Um Well, you can already kind of do it. I mean you can only do it in your house But you can play just dance on your Wii U game pad. That's true. You don't have to play with your phone Or you could You said something like that So it it works it works. Obviously it's a personally it's a lot better on the tv, but again, it's a it's a hybrid So you can hook it up to a tv. Well, supposedly it's a hybrid Um, which is actually really weird. There was that weird. I don't know if you know that obi one guy from youtube Yeah He was freaking out over like this company that made something that looks exactly like what all the nx rumors are Um Last year that they wanted they were looking for a company to go into mass production And they were on like indiegogo and then they closed their indiegogo a month later Um And we haven't heard of anything about this thing since So so he was like, oh man the nintendo just buy it out from them and yada yada I mean it all seems very helpful because Um, nintendo would have been working on the nx for years now Yeah But it was really interesting because it had like it had like, uh You know a tablet type screen with you know, you had the slide on Attachable controllers that you could slide off and continue to use you could dock it with your tv Um, it didn't look like the controllers were necessarily motion controllers Um, but you could still use them when it was set up to the tv Uh, it had one of the rumors for nx I had something about a reversible camera so you could face it towards you or you could face it away from you Um And all the stuff and this system had like all of that Um So it it was kind of crazy Probably not true. I don't I don't know if we need to go much more or do I just I know a lot of people on the internet have been talking about it. Um, I I just wanted to bring up that it is interesting. Um, but I'm just going to kind of leave it at that Uh, so let's let's get into the final part of the podcast as I said earlier No fan topics this week because we kind of had different plans that fell through Uh Let's talk about Our favorite things from the past week Um, Alfred, why don't you go you go first? I'm not a hundred percent sure Well, I have anything Alfred needs some time. I have I have something so Um, this isn't necessarily gaming is related, but it is related to podcasts. I started a brand new podcast for nintendo prime Um, we I just call it the mp podcast Uh, because it does it is going to cover more than just nintendo Uh, but it's up right now You can find it on youtube if you type in np podcast or uh, I'll put a link down to that the channel and the video In the description so you can go check it out. Uh, this podcast is a lot different than the zelda former podcast Uh, because zelda former podcast is just a bunch of us individually in our homes Uh, talking into a webcam Yada yada it gets all spliced together at the end. Um, when we had the ability to do that Obviously with my computer issues. We haven't done that for a couple weeks, but um besides that This one is more of an in-person podcast. It is with me and a guy named eric mor who it This is birthday the day that i'm recording this. So when you watch this eric happy late birthday. Um So me it's me and him together in a room If you're interested on who eric is i'll set a watch the podcast if you've been paying attention to our zelda former podcast He was on our e3 special He was the person if you're watching the video on your screen He's on the far right which would have been my far left. So this the opposite side of the four people in the podcast So he's on it every single week with me Um, so it's in person. It's in my house. I'm actually going to reorganize my office face to see if we can set up the recording And there because there's a potential we might livestream the podcast in the future Um, which might which i'll help set it apart also from the zelda former one And then it also features a guy you guys know very very well darin The managing editor is all informer. Uh, he is not on video at all. He will be at some point next year on that podcast He claims a lot better at internet. I just don't believe him. Um, and he's like a voice speaking from above Um, it's all good times This week we this this first podcast we went through our top five favorite games on every nintendo system ever released Um besides virtual boy because none of us have played enough virtual boy to to say much about it Um, so yeah Uh, you can go check that out. It's it's really cool. It's it's got a lot different vibe here than we do at the zelda former podcast And obviously we talk about way more than zelda Although darin, I think at a zelda game on like every one of the top fives I'm trying to think of he even had a top five that did not Oh, and you can you can go on there and rage at me because I at one point I said octane of time sucks So you say that all the time though. Yeah, I do say it all the time But like I it sounds really bad in that part. There's almost like a full on argument about it. Um So go you can go check out that podcast enjoy That was my favorite thing from the past week. Uh, there was a obviously there was some cool stuff in news happening, but um There's I want a little plug from my personal project. Hey, you like this all for my podcast You're probably gonna like the nintendo brand, but guess Uh Did you figure out anything that you like from this week? Uh, okay So I don't know if this is good or my favorite, but it's a thing that happened this week That has gotten me thinking and jj abram's Announced that we should be seeing an announcement or he hoped for an announcement for a portal movie soon and We actually talked about that in the nintendo prime podcast I was When I heard about that I was like, oh, that's first. I'm like, oh, that's great. We're gonna get a portal movie And then I was like, oh, how would that work? Because that'd be like making a zelda film Because we joke Well, if you even notice see a zelda film you could kind of sort of see there's like a deep store There's like story with zelda that you could somehow make enough of it to do something Even if it doesn't include link like say it's actually just about like sheep during the seven years That could make sense. That could work portal I mean, what's it gonna be about you shoot up you shoot one portal Yeah, I know and you just fall through a constant loop for an hour and a half Well, I just like because it's You'd have to somehow adapt the game and I could see them doing like a first half hour of like cave johnson's descent to madness spoiler alert portal to Um, and then if he was played by jk simmons even better But here's the thing And I did mention this. I think it was me that mentioned on the nintendo prime podcast. I said something about You know, it sounds like I really weird that they could even somehow try to make this work Like the in this report was also that there was a half-life movie in the works, which I can actually see like the half-life film There's story there. Um, apparently we're not gonna have three we're getting half-life movie Or it'll be half-life three the movie. Um Until that would that would have like two episodes three the movie It would automatically attain because everyone wants the game not the movie It'd be a telltale interactive game Telltale interactive game. Yeah, you get on your smartphones and anyways Um So they're making a movie out of tetris a three like a trilogy for tetris and if they could do that for tetris Portal doesn't seem that crazy Yeah, but like you have more not that you have more artistic freedom with tetris But there's like no plot. It's kind of like when they did the battleship movie That was there's no expectations for the plot because one doesn't exist exactly But portal kind of has a plot to it sort of kind of yeah I mean, it's very thin. Well, it's not really you don't play the games because of the plot In the first game, I wouldn't say there's that much of a plot in the second game there was more But you're more of a facilitator for the plot like the main plot was like wheatley cave johnson and uh gladus And you just kind of helped things along I don't know What they would do like again, I'm not sure what they're doing and plus I just hope it's not like like um Because you know there's a lot of line or a handful of lines that are remembered from portal that kind of became amaze you know The cake is a lie. Yeah, um, I just hope it doesn't become one of those where they just try a bunch of one-liners like that I what i'm hoping and I think I hate films that do that and if they do that with portal the film i'm gonna be like Okay, is this is adam sandler movie now one of the things that I could see them doing is they wouldn't announce it until after Assassin's creed was released Because they'd want to see the reception for that before they moved into production or pre-production for this movie Because not that that's kind of like the saving grace for for video game films right now But it kind of is because warcraft tanked Yeah, warcraft tanked, uh I haven't seen it yet from what I heard from what I heard fans of warcraft like the movie People who don't know anything about warcraft are lost and confused Which makes a lot of sense based on what I heard how the story goes. I don't know the whole thing because I need to watch it No, it's kind of like I was told I'm gonna love it, but It's not good for people who don't like well That's kind of the thing with like and people are probably gonna get mad at me for saying this because I actually like this Maybe but batman v superman was mostly aimed towards comic book fans like I went to go see with my fiance and there was one scene with Robin suit in it and she was like I have no idea what's going on there I'm like, oh, that's when the joker killed Jason Todd in death of the family and she's like I have no idea what that means I'm like, I know um And so the problem is is that you let me try to explain this to you But I can't because there's not enough time or watching the movie You have to aim the movie at like a general audience while still appeasing fans And that's yeah Warcraft didn't do that. Warcraft just aimed like this is for warcraft fans Assassin's creed can do that and I'm I'm really hoping that it's good because I feel like that's kind of like the last hope We have for video game films Not that I think it like aren't we getting another Tomb Raider movie at some point? They've already cast the lead actress probably probably. Yeah, I think the cast of an actress Um, yeah, I don't you know, I don't know if it'll I don't really consider like the last hope because As long as video games keep becoming a bigger that's true I mean the angry birds movie ended up doing pretty good. I still want to see it I've heard it's really funny. Yeah, it is really good. My kids like it. I thought it was was pretty funny You know, and I'm not necessarily like a big angry birds player like it's a game that doesn't really have a story So it's okay And somehow they made it work I mean even with like, you know, how the birds do different things in the game that's in the movie It's just cleverly put into the movie in a pretty comedic way So it's you know, even the whole fact that that angry birds like it's it's just got this really Clever thing with anger management and like all the birds supposed to be happy go lucky and it's just it's funny It's just it's a cute movie. Um, but that's the thing like obviously that's an animated movie Animated movies have tend to have done better for video games than live action Um, but then again like those Tomb Raider movies. I had uh, Angelina Jolie Angelina Jolie did good at the box office They made it like a trilogy out of that like they did well the resident evil movies. They're still going Then it's like the trailer for the new one. It's like you might not think those movies are good But enough people do that they're making money off of them Um, and that's kind of the big thing with with video game movies is One as long as they're making money, they're going to keep doing it now Uh, I believe it was Ubisoft came out and said they don't care if they're making any money in the Sassons Creed Well, that's them just preparing for the worst because There's always a high chance video game movies are going to bomb Sassons Creed itself didn't leave in a good place Last time we saw a game from it. Well syndicate did unity didn't Yes syndicate syndicate wasn't bad. It kind of like it had bugs when it launched that but not nearly as bad Not as bad as unity unity was terrible unity took it on a huge like steep down climb and then syndicate like brought it back up a little bit But that's kind of where it's at right now unity and syndicate Um outside of the bugs the only issues I have with those games is You know, I know a lot of people don't play assassin's creed for any of the futuristic stuff But those two games are why people don't do it. They kind of ruined The futuristic stuff So the whole reason you're doing any of this is kind of like gone now Um, and that's one thing I liked about like from you know assassin's creed all the way actually through black flag um It felt like there was an overarching reason for what you're doing outside of just being a badass um, and they kind of got rid of that with unity And uh syndicate so syndicate by the way is not a bad game I don't think it's one of the best assassin's creed games. It's better than unity It's better than assassin's creed three So might I might be better than cut out on me All right, can you hear me? Hello, hello All right, obviously we had some technical difficulties Um, we can't get the call going again. It could be my router. It could be internet on his side We don't really know what's going on. So that's going to do it for the zeldin former podcast Again, I thank you guys for watching. Obviously you can check out the nintendo prime podcast Uh, I'll have all the links and various stuff to that maybe in the this video here or down in the description on the audio version Uh, you can follow alfred at full mental elfie on twitter You'll follow me atnachance. Obviously follow zeldin former all the places that we are you just type zeldin former You will find us. Uh, have a great day. Thanks for listening and we'll see you next week