 George Bruno with the 21 report the European edition were in Warsaw, Poland having a conversation with Alexander Cortez. Welcome. How you doing George? Good. Good. Wow What a speech It seemed to go over well It was you just get better and better and better and just when I think that you've Knocked it out of the park you just keep hitting that ball further and further and further What did you call your speech was there a title to it the title was the the ascendant man So the the idea behind the title was you know the the spear of man the male spear we won't call It's gone through these iterations for the last sort of decade and a half I think we're finally at a stage now sort of this liminal stage where Men it's not just no longer. It's no longer just about sex. It's no longer just about you know It's trying to try to navigate the sexual marketplace. It's okay We've laid out these certain skills these certain principles certain truths Let's incorporate into being a whole being and man is supposed to be man is supposed to be ascendant We're supposed to give our give ourselves a stare to follow and we are inspired and led by ideals Yeah, and that is what that's what really what makes men men That's why we look up to other men So we women look up to men and that is what really decided constructs itself around that we will evolve that way And so I was hoping with a you know, obviously the talk I gave speech from a cult that I could sort of incorporate all those elements into something that was cohesive. Yeah You did it quite well, and I wrote down some notes and I will just quote some of those and those will be a good springboard to talk Be her man not her child Wow How is that relevant to men today? Well, it's relevant that you know, I try to find like some of the best axioms I could but we live in a very infantilized society Life is comfortable. We have a very low-level challenge on day-to-day basis for most men And that carries over into our relationships and I said this in a few different ways But you men whether consciously or unconsciously they look for women who don't provide them any kind of challenge They look for women who essentially will just take care of them the way a woman would to a child Yeah, and that's their idea sort of a good stressor relationship and they're not ascended that way women like to be with men They can look up to that you know that inspire them that they can test him and he sort of you know passes the test You know men that want to be relationships. They're just pure ease and nothing else where she's sort of like a domestic accessory That's a domestic accessory It's like that's like the 1950s delusion about the like the good little housewife that that's never really existed Yeah, that never really existed even during that time period, you know So the aspiration to that since it's a very false thing to desire And once you you know once I could see like in the crowd once the ones I said that like you know Be her man on her child, you know, it's like one of those light bulb moments and you see people's eyes Oh, they see the men's eyes like oh, yeah Yeah, you're right. Yeah, at least we all know men like that. Maybe maybe someone has been that man I mean he rise to sort of the faulty of his ways That's when I pulled the pan out and I knew I had to start writing things down because that really sparked Something in me Don't put her on a pedestal But put her above other women. Mm-hmm So that was one where yeah, this is you know I call serve like the guillotization stuff like the bottom of like the male spear where there's always that often quote Like, you know don't put women in the past don't put the puts in the pestle like yeah, okay Yeah, like we can mutually agree to that you don't want to put yourself in the inferior position Yeah, but relative to having let's say like romantic. Let's say, you know dare I say monogamous relationship like you actually want to be with somebody which You know being a male female pair bond relationship that's sort of you know the stare that most societies build themselves on certainly Western society Okay, well, yeah, how do you make a woman feel like you know, you are irreplaceable to her and she's irreplaceable to you She has to feel special And that's you know, that's a classical model of even you know for men like my mom made me feel like you know The most handsome man in the world like our little girl You know what she was daddy's princess and she was beautiful and he was there for her and she looked up to him And what a man he was people want to feel special. We want to feel valued that way If someone is made to feel replaceable. They have no incentive to value you You they have to have Some sensibly some hopefully can create sensibility. They you really value them that you mean something to them Or they mean something to you that is exceptional You know, so I phrase it that way where yeah, like you can You know have a situation where maybe you date a lot of women. You meet one woman Women know when a man is in a position of sexual abundance or you want to call it where he has options But women they have their own romantics or a fantasy where they want to stand out above other women And if it's an ascendant man where he's picking me he's choosing me. I'm the one that stands up all the others Yeah, they're going to feel special and that's okay to make a woman feel that way There's a little of a romanticism with that But it's romanticism. It's intimacy. We're doing things. We're you know being vulnerable We're having moments with people that we would never ordinarily have otherwise Yeah, then god knows how many songs books songs art has been created out of that You know romanticism is sort of what drives, you know, really human aspiration on a certain level If you have no sense of romanticism, you have no sense of really wanting to live in the future at all It's it's a very bleak world otherwise The ascended man, it sounds like it's going to be an e-book or something That's kind of the idea You know and then Eventually, you know put out a bunch of entries over a year and then compile them At the end of the year And you have a bestseller the idea is like hopefully like one two years now It's something like an actual complete book and it gives a continuum Which I try to give in the whole speech like going from like very primordial to like, you know, civilized If I can, you know, if you can provide minutes or a continuum, here's how to think about it Here are the values of virtues, principles you need to practice and then here is how it develops in these different areas Respective to you're ability to earn, provide, protect Your status to woman You'd have something that gives you some sort of paternal guidance Which I think that's the thing that's most lacking in modern society We have no good men that are paternal, their fathers that we can really look to as functional role models You know, either because we weren't raised with that, you know, or we have no sense of ideal where we are No sense of ideals. We're going to be led by something. It's perfect. It's very easy to be mislead by men where they have their Own private agendas. They have their pains. They have their things that they've had to deal with And men are role models for certain qualities Yes But if you want to push yourself to a higher level, you don't model yourself on other men You model yourself whether you want to call it god or whether you want to call it ideals You model yourself on a standard that you will never ever ever reach Yes And that but that gives you infinite capacity to improve and evolve You don't want to be hitting a threshold and then well, I guess I hit the bar and like the bar is always above you Well You just triggered something you said the word infinite men be replaceable incomparable and infinite Irreplaceable and comparable. Yes How can a man make himself irreplaceable You have to make yourself exceptional but so then you have to objectively look at yourself and No man is going to be exceptional areas, but what are the areas that you can be exceptional in I know it's really that question like was the best version of myself that I can continuously evolve into You know women don't like men that are specialized that way They like men who are interesting like men who he stands apart because you know, he's not like other guys That's like a very that's a very basic thing that goes back to adolescent high school That's the male athlete. That's the guy's the artist. That's the guy that's really successful And that's not to say that you only develop yourself. Well, he's about making money No, it's about all the elements if you can do all the things and you can be so interesting and so compelling You know and be a man of imagination that way where you know, she's going to think and feel things She's not going to feel with anybody else at all. Yeah, you're not going to be replaced by anybody And you know and women like to attach themselves to men like that. That's where you get a really strong bond If you're disposable replaceable average boring predictable easy to figure out Yeah, you'll still get relationships, but you're never going to be that guy that you could be The ultimate insult I can see coming from this and that would be is uh, I could just see Someone's saying you are so replaceable I mean, that's the ultimate insult the ultimate is You're easily replaced And it's like insulting somebody without cursing. Oh, yeah Yeah, it's it's denying a prayer. It's like the denial of a person's denying someone attention Yeah, like you're not going to pay attention to me. You're not worth paying attention to yeah There's nothing about you that is worth even directing my sight at And on the flip side the ultimate compliment is you're irreplaceable. Mm-hmm I'm never going to find another one like you Yeah, and again, that's an ideal but the closer you get to that the more you become that Yeah, but that's keeping the bar always above you. Like you said always so you're always trying She looks up to you or down to you It's one of the other That's something I realized I mean like years ago. I probably was like in high school. I realized that right? It was just it's differentiation where there were those guys that this girls like they looked up to them Either because either because they're athletic or maybe you're like the the geeky guy in the cloud Like geeky geeky geeky girls like geeky guys women like smart men So women always look to men that have certain qualities that you know It's usually the quality of the woman has as well, but they look at a man with a quality like oh, wow Like he's at such a level. He's a man of wax that way. Yes. You have to be she experienced with it Um And they always look up to that like they want that because it gives them both something to assess themselves against And it pushes them a bit and they can challenge and test it and maybe and it's proven Um, that's inspiring that way like again. It goes back to being ascendant We like men that inspire us women love men that are inspirational Um that see things do things that no one know their man can do Uh, you know, so a woman looks up to you or or vice versa. She looks down at you Yeah, and women use men as you know, much more than men use a woman Uh Women know how to manipulate and women know when they're smarter than the man They know when they can take advantage of them. They know when he is made to be used and abused They know that and they can see that Yeah, and maybe the the better angels of their nature They you know, they're like, I'm not going to mess with that guy or maybe they do may they do take advantage of men You know women do that all the time, of course You know the same way men do Uh, you know, how do you sort of separate yourself, you know from that unfortunate game? You got to be exceptional You have to be somebody that both men and women can look up to and I said that sort of in the speech as well that The ultimate game hack for men for female traction. It's not trying to attract women. It's men following you Yeah Is then you automatically select yourself that you're already at the top of the pyramid Oh, wow, that guy has thousands of men that look up to him and follow him and listen to what he has to say He's a man amongst men You're the alpha now. Yeah, you're that a and you're at the top of the pyramid And it had nothing to do with trying to get girls. Yeah, you were being a man amongst men And now you were the man like no other man the ultimate hack I thought it was interesting. Why did the beauty go with the beast? He had a library I've never heard anyone say that that's brilliant because everyone's thinking ferrari lamborghini. He had a library What does the library represent? It's he's a man of mind. He had he had imagination I mean, you know, it's a love story. It's idolized. You know, you kind of say, oh, it's fancy You know, whatever derogers you want to use But it is an ultimate female fantasy because you know with the beast She got a man where he both developed the capacity to love He was a very intelligent man. He was a man of means. He was a primal man He was dominating but he knew how to be soft with her So she got all the things that sort of women fantasize about like within one man And then he transforms himself into even more of a man for her at the very end You know, what was her rejection of a, you know, gaston? Gaston was an idiot Yeah, he's buff and chisel just hair and he's and every woman wants him But because he makes himself inferior to bell and because bell is smarter than him and she knows it She doesn't want him Yeah, and that's something that you know, oftentimes you get to get yourself a look in the male spear Men don't care about intelligence. No intelligent men care about intelligence Dumb men don't care because you're dumb, right? And you have no idea how many women have deselected you because you've been stupid Deselected, which is harsh, but it's true. It's true. Dumb men Smart women cannot stand dumb men. They'll use them Because they're made to be used But they're never going to respect them And the beast, I always, I remember seeing that as a kid, I always made such an impression of me And he takes her and I want to show you something. He shows her a library with books So he then, you know, now she has infinite imagination at her disposal And she's in a magical world and that's his world And you can read all of them. Yeah Now it's like, you know, he struck at the very thing that she idolized like he had it Brilliant And then finally dominant versus domineering that jumped out at me A lot of people don't know the difference. Explain that to our audience So with healthy dominance, you are the person that's leading or the man that's leading And you have the frame that way where She's with you. She trusts you. Other men trust you. People trust your decisions and your actions And you dominate not because you want to control people because people trust your Site, they trust your guidance. They trust how you move. They trust what you do. They trust your actions That's a healthy way to dominate. That's the man that leads. That's being courageous. That's being intelligent Why is it that requires a lot of qualities that you want to be dominant being domineering is seeking to control other people You know to their detriment because you're too deficient in the other areas to dominate and lead properly Yeah, and you see that in dysfunctional relationships with men when The woman is not acting how they want I'm gonna I'm gonna make her you can't make anyone do anything the same way you can't you can't make your employees like you Everybody's had listen, you know bad manager. I can't stand this person. They're so controlling That never works and we always recognize that as a weakness because if we really respected them They wouldn't need to tell us what to do You know and the domineering you know serve element like I see it sometimes like in the Male spear where these you have guys where they they just have low, you know social accused I realized and they've never been that position where anybody really looks up to them or they let anything And they want to be in control of these people You know like we all crave control we all crave stability. They don't know how to practice it So it's steers for us with this domineering kind of conversation where like that's that's gonna very much mislead you And I've I've said the young speech as well. I've been training women for 10 years I've had many many many, you know female person trained clients women don't like domineering men Because they can tell you don't pay attention. They don't respect them. Yeah, if they end up in that kind of relationship They want to leave They don't mind to leave Yeah, you know we can talk about abert relationships where all women will be with psychos like yeah Men will be psychos too, but we never can say that healthy, right? Yeah, so, you know like you know, so how do you supersede all that you want to dominate But you that starts with yourself that starts with leading yourself which that starts with sort of the textual virtues You embody those things and then you know, I said that as well I keep quoting myself it yeah kind of by default when you act like a man capital M The world responds accordingly and you don't have to force things. Yeah I know I like to say rather than rather than saying Listen to me or do what I tell you A beautiful way of Saying something like that would be follow my lead There you go Versus and that's follow my lead is dominant Listen to me do what I say is domineering Your example of choosing where to go on a date What to do What you're going to be the planner. Yeah That's incredible and as opposed to arguing for an hour That's always like that. I use that as a stereotype of example But I always found that fascinating with a lot of men were like men don't like to plan things And that sometimes there is a balance there like within let's say relationship Like okay, my wife was playing her my girlfriend. She loves to plan and I let her do that Yeah, but you know in the just fine But you know in the process of you know, let's say getting to know someone or just sort of establishing relationship polarity Be the man with a plan. I mean that shows you have some imagination. Where are you going to take me to? I'm not going to tell you but you're going to love it. Yeah, I want you to dress really nice Yeah, I want you know wear this you know We're going to be going this direction and you make sure you bring a jacket and it's actually for two nights So you know you should pack this and that oh wow You know or or you could be the guy where you want to go or you don't want to go Where do you want to go that conversation goes into a death spiral for two hours and then you're and then you're just mad at each other Yeah, um, you know, but that yeah, it's stereotypical But that's how a lot of men behave in their relationships because they want maybe they want to mean it's both easy But they also want to be in charge. They also don't want to do anything but they also want to be adored I mean it's all incoherent when I look at some of the accusations against Men who think the way that we do and I think you and I have similar thoughts uh Someone was breaking my chops once about uh, they quoted me saying You need to Buy her flowers and take her out dancing And they were like kind of like mocking that and I remember You said something like I Buy my girl flowers every week. Yeah Because I like to be romantic. Yeah Yeah, but I mean this this goes into like the point of being irreplaceable and comparable and like I don't worry about a woman being unfaithful. I've never struggled with it. I've never questioned anyone's fidelity Women love me and they've always loved me and I love them And I enjoy being romantic for my own sake. I like being romantic just because I enjoy it. Yes Um, you know the thing that's interesting is that the more you put into a woman that way the more she journeys gives back to you If you want something to be really attached to you get them a reason to be Um, you got that sort of idea of sort of I don't know Like I don't the relationship where you don't actually do anything, but she's really attached uh, but somehow it's functional like that's Yeah, it's a socially Disimpaired like way of conceptualizing it Now when we look at if you look at any kind of healthy romantic relationship We're like, well these people really love each other. They're really into each other and that's pretty obvious You know, I I think for a lot of men, you know, unfortunately who just have either attachment disorders of this I've never had a functional relationship or maybe their their romanticism got betrayed Because the woman they were what took advantage of them. Yeah, I can understand the fear I can get that but that's also also due to your own respective blindness Yeah I've the number of things I've had women do for me that are romantic or endless I can just rattle things out, you know from trips and planning and dinners and You know moments and I got this for you like it's just it's tons of stuff Like how women are romantic women are highly romantic but for a man they want to be romantic with Yes, you're just not that kind of man, right Right, that's brilliant Well, I can't wait for this to become a book and as soon as it goes into Pre-sale mode I hope to be the first one to sign up for it And I had a front row seat While you were developing this this is it's magnificent the ascended man Is that we is that we were calling it you think maybe isn't it man? I think so. Yeah, it's a good working title for right now Anyways, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And what's interesting is so many people that are thought leaders Aren't men of action They're just thinking about it. So when I hear hear the phrase thought leader I'm like, yeah, we'll take it from your brain to You know, you're practicing this with the woman in your life. I am this that's a big difference Yeah, as opposed to this theory Absolutely Like we all we all have thoughts that's like I've had that running joke for people for even the fitness industry and people talking to me Yeah, we all think things don't we? Like you know in relative to like the the world of the body and like you're either stronger or you're not You're either a man or you're not And you can see people very readily you put them in the proper environment like okay Are they really upholding what they espouse or are they just you know Someone who thinks things but is actually defective in their being that becomes very obvious really fast You know like my my message has always been you know pretty straightforward. And you know the fundamental level that yeah I always encourage men like you you want to be the best version of yourself Align yourself with truth and be able to see see things clearly and then act accordingly And yeah, and you do the probabilities of your life will play out respective to your principles Uh If you mislead yourself, you know, so you do you know you can course correct But you don't want to get caught in the spiral of this sort of speaking and speaking and speaking speaking speaking speaking speaking and there's nothing to show for it. Yeah. Yeah, you are, you know, the phrase, think outside the box. You are thinking outside the echo chamber, and I like that. Well, yeah, the walls are confining that way. Even when I was in the quote unquote fitness, I never liked the idea of orthodoxy or like the beliefs or like anything that's sort of like accepted, like everybody knows. This is the way I'm like, no, it's not. There's always more. Yeah. There's always different ways to see things. You have to take sort of that meta view of everything and hopefully it develops something that's holistic and, you know, in principle-based, that's very much from ground up. So yeah, I said that as well, like, you know, the map is not the territory. It's very easy to read things and it's like, oh, this is all that exists. I'm like, no, that gives you directive how things can operate, but life is not mechanistic at all. And, you know, people are very infinite in how they can behave. Well, I am looking forward to watching this develop. And like I said, I feel like I had a front row seat watching this right from chapter one. True. And that's pretty exciting. Being irreplaceable, incomparable, and infinite, a conversation with Alexander Cortes. Thank you, sir. Thank you, George. Absolutely.