 And a lot of me is feedback and not recorded unfortunately. So, your comments. Me about, what about Triple South? Yes. No, it's just good, you know. Some really good talks, but I've watched about a dozen or so, a dozen or so talks. I have my camera set up to do a video, so I'm doing this. Yes, I'm going to talk to the camera. Yeah, I don't have much to say. Like, bloody good job, Vladimir, with the videos. I would agree with that. Vladimir and John. Yes. Thirded, whatever. Yeah, absolutely. Top notch. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. And the quality of the YouTube videos is amazing. So, yeah. Awesome work, Vladimir. Any comments about the quality of the content side? No, I don't know. I think it's just the usual mix. I would, I think it's really hard. I mean, it's really hard. It's very subjective. You have your own view about what sort of content you want to see and you can't predict what other people really want to see. So, I don't really kind of go too deeply into that thinking. It was good to see Brynz. If you haven't seen Brynz's front-end talk, he's really topped his last one. That's the pure CSS presentation. So, definitely that was a highlight for me, I think. A couple others were really good. I think the developers talk about getting into the new gritty of test coverage and stuff like that. Static analysis and stuff like that in PHP tests. Highlights. Just a bunch of stuff you don't come across normally. So, you get this kind of insight. That stuff's really good. You get this insight into what people are looking at. You don't even think to ask them. It's like, tell me a random way to do mocking of a random thing in Drupal. And he's like, well. Absolutely. He was in Brynz talk as well. And it was great. It was great. All righty, Simon, let's see. Do you want to say something? Comments? No, just overall it was great. I attended a bunch of talks and thought they were all pretty good. Yeah, looking forward to volunteering and doing a bit more with meetups and that sort of stuff. So, that's sort of what I took out of it, is trying to be a bit more involved. So, if you want to get more involved, can I assume that in the next meetup you're presenting something? Yeah, look, we'll see what I can do. All right. So, just think of a topic and we can talk because I always trouble trying to find people to present. Can do. Okay, Karl. I loved it. It was great friends. Good people. Quality of talks was really good. Very diverse in content nature, which was refreshing. Not a lot in the hosting front, but it's not always the case. Yeah, it was really good. I can't fall. Would go again. All right. How about sort of a different perspective? So, Gaurav flew all the way from India to Sydney to attend Drupal South, and this was his first Drupal South. Gaurav, comments, how did you feel? How was it? It was, I mean, really amazing because like this was my first Drupal South, but it was my first session as well, like I gave anywhere in Drupal Con, Drupal South or anywhere. So, it was an experience for sure. And I mean, the crowd was also amazing. Like the people came and, you know, asked a lot of questions, which actually made me learn also a few things. So, I think it is a really nice, you know, way of engaging with everyone, and especially Drupal South, it was really nice. Like there were good number of sessions and the sessions were also very informative. And, you know, icing on the cake was like the keynote from Dries himself. So, I think it was a full package, and I really loved it. And along with that, like I, it was my first trip to Australia as well. So, I really loved Australia as well. So, everything was great for me. Like two weeks were really amazing. So, I think, thank you so much for the opportunity as well. We have a few more people who actually flew in from India at that time. Parth. Hello, hello. I see you there. Just unmute yourself and talk. All right, all right, okay. So, yeah. Hey, hi everyone. My first Drupal South as well. Amazing sessions, amazing people. I don't know if that is already mentioned. I've met so many new people that I've never met. I've made, yeah, lengthy conversations with Simon on the last day. That was amazing. I'm glad I got to meet so many folks from the DevOps community as well. Yeah. In short, it was nice experience. I loved a few talks as well. I think some of them already got mentioned. Kim's talked, even Carl's talked for them. I don't know if that has been mentioned yet. So, one thing that I loved about the sessions, the ones that I did like was there were some new insights that got brought out from the mundane stuff that I have been used to. So, yeah, that's my quick takeaway. And without taking further time, I'll hand it over back to Sushki. And you met some people whom you hadn't met for? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. That too. I met for the longest one of time as well, got to meet them. So, yes, that was great as well. Well, I think Carl, we told you that me and Pat worked in our previous lives. So, work together in our previous lives. I suspected that was happening, but that's okay. I know Pat has had quite a busy day before, but I'm glad he's had the opportunity to come to Australia and see what we're doing. That was amazing. That was amazing. Jana, do you want to say something? Are you around? No, mine then. Go Vint. So, it's not the first time, but yeah, it was my third Drupal South, always as enjoyed. It's really good time to meet everyone once in a while, because working in a remote is really, sometimes it feels like we should meet in person. So yeah, Drupal South always gave me a chance to meet everyone. And yeah, the new faces always welcome. It's really good to be there. So yeah, and also a part, it's really nice to meet you again after 10 of years. 10 years. More than 10 years. Alrighty. So other than this discussion, I did not have a session lined up. I know it's just 20 minutes in, but does anybody have anything that you want to talk about? Anything that you want to show? Yeah, I mean, I could give my comments about Drupal South. Oh, sorry, I forgot you mean. Sorry. Yeah, no, I mean, it was great. It's my first Drupal South in, I think, four years last, last one I went to was in, hasn't been here. And this is my first time presenting at Drupal South. I did the defense and depth talk if any of you have had the chance to come down to it. Yeah, I really liked it. I really liked the venue, like, you know, lots of, like right in city center. It's easy to go out in the evening and, you know, see restaurants and other things. So yeah, very well organized as well. Really enjoyed it. Yeah. Yeah, sorry to have missed you. No, no worries. I have the camera off. Yeah. Anybody else? Yeah, I'll go quick. I thought. Big props to the, you know, to the track, track chair track leads, especially on the first day, you know, when the, when the, when the key notes. Talk went a little bit over time. I think you guys recovered really well. So good, good job. You know, we were panicking at that time, but yes, we tried to. Yeah, no, no, well done, well done to you guys. And then yeah, just kind of like reiterate the, I think it might be worth exploring if we can curate the buffs or somehow like have, you know, maybe a track lead or something dedicated to, to promoting the buffs. And cause I also thought they might have been a little bit slightly underutilized. So not no criticism. It's just possibly an improvement. And then. And then one thing I'm maybe open for discussion. One thing I'm always interested in is how can we attract like new people to Drupal, you know, to Drupal South. And you know, like a lot of us have been around for Drupal for a long time, right? But how come, but has anyone been in cheer and Drupal less than, you know, three years, two years? Last chance. Sorry, Drupal less than other. No, sorry. It's like, you know, like, has anyone joined? Is anyone new to Drupal, like less than two or three years? I don't think. I would like to say. Cause to me, to me, this is a challenge that I'm interested in helping solve, right? Like how do we, how can we get new faces? How can we get new faces, new perspectives into Drupal? So Damien has actually, Damien has been me and said that he joined just 12 months ago. He joined the Drupal. So he's one of the newbies we would speak and say. Cool, cool. So, yeah, thanks, Damien. Yeah. So, but overall, it was a fantastic, fantastic conference. But food is great. You know, it's good to connect. I liked, I liked the themes of, you know, let's move forward. Let's, let's focus on a Drupal 11. It's, you know, like come together. So well done. Thanks. So Damien, where are you located? I'm located a couple of hours outside of Melbourne. So in Bendigo. Okay. 20, 25 is in Melbourne. A great chance for you to come in again. It should be, it should be fun. Oh, and. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. And Damien, Damien did his first commit on Drupal.org at the Code Spring. So he got Damien, I think that was a big shout out. They always do live codes, the live commit. So we had Lee Rollins up, up the front. And, uh, yeah, Damien, Damien is a core, core committer now. I mean, a core contributor. Oh, well done. Exactly. That's great. Yeah. That's cool. No, it's really cool. Yes. Also, I hired Damien. So just say it's, it's actually my win. So just therefore I am just. Okay. All right. Um, if next Drupal Southern Melbourne, how can we engage Melbourne Uniswands? Very good question. Um, I don't know the answer to it yet. Yeah. Great question. Um, one thing is the cost, right? Like a lot of times uni students can't afford the cost of a ticket. So who, who pays for them, right? So it's, it's, it's a, it's a broad discussion. Um, one way we could attract, you know, uni students is possibly show them how they can get careers in Drupal. You know, so possibly looking at like a career fair type thing, you know, um, so also you guys could be, you know, you could talk about what it's like to be a Drupal developer of same with previous next, you know, what, what kick ass projects are you guys working on, you know, like attract, um, you know, like get uni students that way. Maybe just an idea. We don't have any connections to Unis as such. We actually are doing a couple of projects with Unis. So maybe we can have a conversation. But unfortunately the, the thing with Unis is that they are so bureaucratic that one department doesn't really talk with the other department. And we will be dealing with just a way, you know, website facing department and they'll not be talking to the uni students. Up here in Queensland that you do, there's a computer society called Humbug and is surely a computer society at the uni. And those people would do other things as well as Drupal. You know, um, when I was down there, there was a Christian union. There's probably other groups, you know, wish walking clubs. God knows what is it called? Clubs and societies. It's not the uni itself. The union does all those social activities. I'm sure, I'm sure there'd be, I've been away for a long time from Melbourne uni, but if you, you know, if anyone who visits there or goes to the union, we call it the union. Like where all the students had activities, not the studies, just activities. You know, about that. Unfortunately, I'm still relatively new in Australia. So I don't. Okay. When I was doing medicine there, believe it or not, I was going to be a doctor and I didn't finish. But, um, there was the Bailu library. There was the Brownless library. And there was a medical school. There'd probably be an engineering school down there. You know, computer science school. And in there, they would, they would probably know about it. But, um, yeah, I, I, but it's not the university. It's not the government. It's not the, um, the lecturer. It's the, um, you have fun, you know, do things. That makes it. Unis aren't all studied. You do also a lot of social things. The only library that matters at Melbourne University is the Road and White Library, I contend. Which one is that? That's the one where you can, I can, they put on records for you. They've got a vinyl collection. Oh, really? Ah, it's absolutely awesome. It's in the Student Union building. That's the only library. That's the one. Yeah. It was a bridgeway where it was very windy. You walk under the thing like a bridgeway. There was union there, I think. Yeah. But yeah, there must be people that could put you on to the right group. There'd be a few groups that would be relevant, you know. I think that's one key. Shivan is suggesting if we have some word press to Drupal sessions, we might lure in some WordPress devs. WordPress has a much larger community. No. That's true. We already to, we already tried that in Brisbane. Your voice is breaking a lot in your country. Right, we failed and we just got, so don't. That's one kind of tangentially related to that. Sorry, I didn't catch much of that. Yeah. I thought tangentially related to that, you know how there was that, there was, you know, our Drupal South conference, but there was also that AI conference going on at the same time. Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure we were having way more fun than those people. I just could tell on their face like this and want to be there. It's been, but we know we were enjoying ourselves. So that's, that's. They were all in their formals and everything. Yeah, boring. Yeah. I get that. I get that. Okay. So, but you spoke to a lot of new folks. Let me recall you. I have also heard that there is some Drupal course now in, in some uni, but I don't have the details unfortunately. But yeah, maybe this is something we can try and look for. Yeah, I mean, yeah, because this is a conversation that came up from how I was sharing how India is kind of bringing Drupal into course curriculums and universities. And then someone said, oh wait, but that's already happened here. We already have it in the curriculum. So we don't need to do that. But maybe we can leverage that to conduct our triple camps at those universities where they value Drupal or they already see Drupal as your career option. So that could be the route. And that's, that's, that's something for me to just look into my, into my memory and then recall who it was. But oh, okay. No, that's not okay. Hamilton shared something and I was like, Oh, is this the university? Maybe not. Okay. That's cool. I'd like to do that. I'd like to do that too with universities here in New Zealand, like start introducing that curriculum. So I'm definitely keen to learn. From universities in India or even in Australia too. So I'll just go sniff around. Should Drupal South committee try to systematically engage with those. We don't have a, so from the Drupal South committee, I think I am not a member of that committee. Unfortunately. Do we have any representation of that committee here? It's, it's tough. No, okay. No, but I have a good relationship with Dave Sparks. And he, the short answer is no. And the challenge again with universities is who pays, who pays for the time to, to go in and, and, you know, to, to evangelize. Especially since, you know, Drupal South is often funded in the large part by the companies themselves, right? You know, previous social digital previous next in all of our, you know, all of our time. So the short, the short answer is, yes, I personally think it would be beneficial to somehow systematically engage with universities. But again, it's who, who, who pays for that time. It's a much bigger conversation. It's not something that we can probably talk here. We can. Sure. Yeah, volunteers. Yeah. I mean, that would work too. Yeah. Volunteers do a Hamilton volunteers do spend a lot of time. Just today morning, I was talking to Dallas and I was asking him. So for Wellington, Drupal South, Wellington Dallas was the track chair. And I was just asking him to give me an estimate of how much time did he actually spend. And his estimate was around more than 100 hours. So volunteers do spend quite a lot of time and Drupal South is run by volunteers pretty much. So we do spend a lot of time already. And this is something. This is something that is more systemic systematic. It needs. I don't think what it is would be able to do that. Yeah, I mean, Tim, Tim Doyle from the Drupal Association was, was present too. So that, that is a conversation. You know, maybe we are, you know, someone can have maybe, you know, maybe I'm calling myself out here, but, you know, like, I think maybe the Drupal Station, it would be the best interest of Drupal. Maybe there's some funds available to, to try that out. Yeah. In Canberra, there's a lot of federal government departments in Drupal. I know none of us are in Canberra. I've been there. They are the biggest user. I went along talking on Drupal. And I couldn't believe at least half the departments secretly using Drupal. They don't tell people. But it's Drupal. And we've sent a link. The fence is a few of the big ones. And it is just, they use, they change the code a bit. Yeah. It is surprising how many government departments use it in the federal government. But yeah, they, they, they are definitely no people in their industry, surely. Yeah. Some of us know that all too well. I used to be, I used to be in Linux Australia. And a lot of these guys is going to the top dollar right now. But when I began with Linux, it was all community thing, right? Like we're trying to do, right? And a lot of, it's gone so big in, you know, the National Library and this and that, that you can't do any normal stuff anymore. Like it all has to be super careful, super quality. But there's also lots of community things that are used these source software. Yeah. And that's where it began. It's a sad thing. A lot of things has gone left the route. You know what I mean? And I haven't had a lot of business for a long time here in Queensland. It's very hard to make business up here. I have the customers in Sydney. So there's still, there's people like I have time that, you know, you guys probably all nine to five I might have one day a week of work on it on IT, right? So there's other things like that where not everyone is nine to five. So, yeah. So I think hopefully don't go like in Australia where it's totally commercial now really. You know what I mean? The way they do things. So there is still a bit of room for like an early day for people to open source. And so those guys at the uni, some of those guys might write some source code, right? They might write some source code. And yeah. So there's things like that. But anyway, but I hope that you guys aren't going like Linnish Australia where they weren't totally commercial and they don't do anything for free or volunteer anymore. And they were all too busy. All too busy. But when I began way back in Sydney and they, we bring the disc along and install it on your computer. That's what Linnish guys used to do. But they don't do that anymore. It's all big commercial things. And it's changed. Hopefully people haven't gone that route. But yeah, because it'll kill it off. It'll kill all the small price off. So if you, I think some of the people at the uni, they might be one of two eager students. You might want to contribute a code. Something like that. They might be away. But yeah. If you have a guy who's done a talk at those student groups at the uni, if you've ever done a talk invited you to talk to them, you know, like a little meeting. And their meeting, go along to their meeting. Have you ever done that? Have you ever been to the, in Melbourne uni is very, a very serious place. And they have halls. They have a hall for that group. And they go in and they put, you know, you overhead projector and talk to the people like you do. Ah, what's this group of them? They talk to you, you know what I mean? Then you might get members to come over and join this group like this. Yeah, that's when I was young. That's what we used to do. You'd go to some halls. I'm going to have a meeting on it. It'd be a group. I want to join you join the group. Well, they then they tell you what they do. And they educate you about all these things, like what group would do. Right. And they don't have embedded things like WordPress is so difficult to switch. So they never done Drupal. So they knew, you know, the young guys. So you've got a fresh person. I wouldn't, I would suggest doing the talk one day. It'd be a tricky to find the time and the time to money and all like to get the time off or see when they have their meeting might be after the union at night time when they have their meeting and go along and do a little talk on Drupal. I know that's how we used to do it back in the day. They have some regular talk and you all go to the meeting and find out stuff. And then you might join that group. So the students are like that. They're fairly fluid and they, they have a fairly active and young energy. And they like new things. So, and they're not stuck in a groove yet. They're not stuck in one or the other, you know what I mean? They can never done anything. It's quite Drupal. You get a fresh person. Are you guys all working nine to five? So maybe they might have a meeting on a weekend where you could fit in, you know, but I would recommend trying to, trying to have a one set, might be once in a year you do it. Just go along with your talk at the club, at this club I found. Yeah. But this is, do your group have funds to fund people that they need time off to pay for that? Or is that the struggle with it? You have to find funds to pay for someone's time off to do that when they were talking at the uni. That's what it is. We're all too busy, like Linux guys are all too busy now to do anything. So, but yeah, I would recommend get somebody if you're someone to give a talk at one, one time seminar or something, you know, might get a few people interested in writing code. That's for my two cents. Yep. Thanks Hamilton. Thanks for this. I do agree that we can try and look at the ID clubs and even just an introductory talk kind of thing, something that might. Yeah. Yeah. When I was in India, and I'm talking about like ages back, I did do, so I had a Drupal in a day kind of a thing and that they had started something called Drupal in a day. So I used to do those kinds of talks in uni, uni's half a day talk. And how do that, even if two people came to me and said, they want to pursue that further, that was always good. But yeah, as I said, I don't really know the uni land here. That's something we'll have to look at. Yeah. Cause I used to, I used to work for awkward too at the learning, the services department. And so I was, I was kind of an instructional designer for that Drupal in a day. And the backstory is that as again, as it was funding related, like it just wasn't, it wasn't financially sustainable to keep that, that project going. It's such an unfortunate thing. So, but anyway, I guess like one takeaway is, but we need to come up with ideas. How can we, how can we, you know, coming into COVID's changed so much, you know, like a lot of people don't even want to go out anymore to meet up because it just takes so much energy. And anyway, this is, you're talking about actually going out, even getting people to come to an online meetup is not that easy. Yeah. And getting people to talk is super difficult. Yeah. It's things are changing. People used to be very keen to go to meetups, et cetera. I know when I was in India, Drupal camps were such huge things there. And we would have like 500, 600 people. I have organized Drupal camps, which actually had 600 people, but getting that kind of attraction here. I don't think it's very easy. All right. Anything else? Anyone? Yeah. I mean, again, all of that was possible because we had students and unis involved. Yes. That is a key point. So it and plus one thing, one key differentiator is Drupal camps in India free. So there's, so there's no entry barrier for anyone for that matter. Yes. The location does become, become a barrier for people because given that they are not co-located in that city, then they may not be able to attend, but a lot of people still did travel. Now, having said that, I think maybe subsidized tickets. So what WordPress or WordCamps? I attended a lot of WordCamps organized a few camps with those folks as well. And I realized that they have like a subsidized ticketing format for students, which is only to encourage their attendance. And yeah, they, they maybe get less swag or they may get, you know, they may have some restrictions on what they get out of, but they get to attend the event essentially. That's, that's the point. So yeah, maybe have those in as well. And honestly, I think Drupal camps abroad are not even promoted to college goers or college folks, for my understanding. So I think start, starting there will be, will be the first, the first step. So yeah, I don't know if, yeah, someone can relay that to the next Drupal camp, Drupal South team. But that I, I reckon that's, that's where it starts. That's, that's good. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. I have been making points and I'll make sure that we extract this information out and I can convey, make sure that it's communicated to the Drupal South team as well. I was hoping that Julia will be attending today. And she is in the Drupal South committee. So that would have had, but I'll talk to her separately and let's see what can be done about it. Yeah, Vladimir says that. What camps are all $50, $50 as a requirement, even for the students, Vladimir, even for the students. Yeah, but you know, I guess the point is university students, right? Like, it wasn't, it wasn't everyone. Yeah. Also, also one more thing about word camps. They, they got a lot of support from the word camp organization. Like even automatic, they, they got a lot of framework set up for them to be able to even host events. So I understand that a lot of Drupal communities outside of India are like more matured and they have these, you know, account setup, checking accounts, which are specifically for the event or for the association. But for the longest amount of time, that was the biggest barrier in India. But, but having said that, sorry, my point was there's a lot of backing from the association for WordPress community, whereas we don't have that. In fact, a lot of event organizing guides. Yeah, as you said, like, I mean, there are, the pricing is set. Like those kind of guidelines also come from the, from the association. On that note part, number one, yes, there is actually EOW event organizers, event organizers working group in Drupal. Yeah, I'm part of it. But honestly, back when it was set up, it was already several years into Drupal community. And the guide event organizing guide that was created out of it was also something that was still like a working document or it's more of a suggestion. You know, like a helping document as opposed to more of an enforcement that comes. So if there is more, yeah, I mean, some, some sort of enforcing that goes on or there's more structure from top down, it kind of makes decision making easier. That's how I'll put it. Because all of these aspects are like subjective, you know, and the end of the day, everyone wants more attendance, more engagement. So if that's the goal and someone sets it. Already as those things figured out, figured out like check in, et cetera. Yeah. As Vladimir has mentioned, Linux Australia supports and sponsors and Drupal South and work camps as well. Jenna is mentioning that Drupal South has a person employed for organizing and promoting event. I guess promotion needs to be scaled up absolutely. I'm so sorry. So as part of the structure, I'm so sorry, so sorry. As part of work camp structure, the sponsorships. So there are default sponsorships that are international. So international organizations get to sponsor events in India or in whatever geography that they want. So that structure is also provided by the association. So that's, you know, that's one more thing that kind of, you know, helps the event. To build on what Jana is saying, I think Drupal South promotion is very, very limited. People know people, only the people in the world of Drupal and who have been part of Drupal South, they tend to know about, okay, the next Drupal South is this, you know, we are not really promoting it outside of the limited bubble, limited square that we have. So I totally agree with Jana that, yes, the promotion needs to be scaled up. The promotion needs to be outside of the Drupal square that we have. It should be to the, as we said to the Unis, just sending that out and things like that. And I also think getting a, not a Drupal in a day, but a Drupal basic beginner training, a part of Drupal South that might also be useful because then we can target the Unis and say, this is a training that you can come and see and that will help you get started with Drupal or, you know, things like that. I think that's also a very good idea. We used to do that in Drupal Camp Delhi. We used to have one day of Drupal beginners training, just, you know, so people can start off with it. And that is a very good way for people to just get into and know about Drupal. But yeah, those are all ideas. Let's see. Alrighty, everybody. Anything else that anybody would like to talk about? Thanks everyone for joining. It was a great discussion. Dave QLE was keen to provide when you leave, the students will get free access. Okay. Okay. Maybe we can have something like this in Melbourne. Let's see. Yeah, I'll be putting this discussion on YouTube and I'll try to, yeah, I'll be saving this chat as well. Hamilton, what's your question? Is there any more sprints? What's sprints? When I was in Woolloongabba, I think it was an evening or an afternoon and we feel like it was a special day, not just like a talk like me. And everyone was just hacking total day. So you were talking about code sprint? Yes. Is there any more of those? Because I've had a touch with that. They still do that like every year or every six months. What happened? What's the cycle? Vladimir does that. Vladimir does still do a double contribution. They're kind of a thing. And I'm out of touch. Okay. So what are we doing that? Yeah. Alrighty. Thanks everyone for attending. Sorry, so she can't hear me? Yeah, sure, I can. Okay, good. So what I'm trying to do is trying to get more speakers to speak of Drupal Melbourne. Awesome. So I'll talk to you about it there. But what I was planning to do is move Drupal South to, no, sorry, Drupal South. Drupal Brisbane to a bit of a different time from this month and make it more like a contribution thing as well. So whoever is interested in contribution or training and development, we are planning to do two hours every month, maybe starting at 3 p.m. different days, see what people are interested in, maybe put some voting on. But we'll be diverting everyone who wants to present, including myself, to present at Melbourne Meetup. To keep it more as a normal meetup. Whereas Brisbane will turn into more hands-on contribution backfix or let's look at this module kind of thing. So keep an eye, I'm about to announce the April one. And I think that will kind of create a good balance between people who actually want to do hands-on, including myself, and people who wants to do a bit more talk-like, which would be pretty much Melbourne thing. Okay, awesome. I did read your comment on the Meetup as well as I think you posted on Drupal Slack as well. So yeah, that's amazing. And yeah, ping me if you know of anybody who wants to give a session in Drupal. As I said, it says Melbourne Drupal Meetup, but it's not specifically Melbourne. Everybody is welcome. We have people from not only Australia, but New Zealand and India. So everybody is for sure welcome. Alrighty. Thanks everyone for joining. Bye-bye. Good to see you guys. Bye-bye. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.