 This is for you Albert Hello We have two pod chaos going on in this house at once in that nuts Yeah, oh what is I oh we're after show after things this gotcha is wrapping up I don't know if he's actually still going or not. We are about to rock How's everybody doing? Good. Oh, they're doing great Roger hit himself. He's not gonna say anything else Till afterwards Anything else going on before we get rolling? Well Are you are you reading a long way to a small angry planet? I am What are you thinking of it? It's fun. I got a read faster and more Me too. I should have done the audiobook. That was this was a mistake But I had the book already. I was thinking of reading. I Was thinking I shouldn't have done the audiobook the other day because I was in a position Where I couldn't make noise and I didn't have my headphones near and I'm like if I had the e-book or if I had done whisper sync But when you buy the audiobook first, it's you can't go do whisper sync anymore, can you yes, you can you can't get the discount That's what yeah, you just credit, but I don't have I'm not on Kindle. I'm at a paper book So I can't whisper sync with that Unfortunately, yeah, what's up with that Amazon? Come on get that whisper sync working for printed books You open the book and it just flips to the page where you were listening. Yeah, that would be amazing. That'd be amazing Get a robot for that Bought that stuff up Yeah, I mean you could do That's kind of wonky. You could do a thing where it tells you what printed page to turn to I guess like on your phone Right. Yeah Depends on which edition you have though Well, usually when they're new there's only one or two editions, but you're right You have to you'd have to go through a lot of trouble. I have this edition this printing Whistle says both my wife and I tied our audible accounts to the Amazon Echo So now I find myself tied to the Echo to listen to her books Because he doesn't want to buy them again Interesting Alright, well, let's get rolling shall we Let's do it Here we go Daily tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out how you can help power the show visit Daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Monday May 8th 2017 I'm Tom Merritt joining me Veronica Belmont is here Amidst the land of bots Yes, that's where I live it's living tall amongst them I imagine you surrounded by very small robot minion-sized tiny little nanobots everywhere. How's it going there? Over in botland. It's good. Good. Weather's nice spots are friendly. It's a good place to be Mm-hmm. Well, we're not gonna talk about bots in our main topic today. Instead. We're gonna talk about a new technique that can turn Pretty much anything into a touchscreen Not even a touch screen screens the wrong word touch sensor. You can add touch controls to anything touch interface Yeah, yeah, including Play-Doh The future is amazing. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna talk about that in a little bit. Let's start with a few tech things You should know Comcast and Charter have agreed on a wireless partnership to share technology and work together in vendor negotiations Agreeing not to make any wireless mergers or acquisitions for one year without the others consent Partnership, yeah or collusion On your perspective on John Oliver's last week tonight program on Sunday He urged viewers to express opposition to the US FCC chairman as he pies net neutrality plan the FCC website crashed afterwards And the FCC says it was subject to multiple distributed DOS attacks denial of service attacks So I don't know if Oliver's fans did the DDoS or if that just happened accidentally But it wasn't the number of complaints that brought it down at least according to the FCC. Yeah Yes, later. We'll talk about that later Facebook took out full-page ads in several UK newspapers Monday giving readers advice on how to spot false news stories in the Facebook news feed UK will hold its general election June 8th, so they're trying to get ahead of that That's good. Yeah Now here are some more top stories Comcast launched an update for customers with the X-Fi wireless gateway That's about 10 million customers out there or the X-Fi advanced wireless gateway that that is newer So they don't have as many customers But in both they will bring modern networking features and cloud administration So users will be able to administer their router from a web dashboard or they can get an iOS or Android app In fact, if they have the X1 box, they can use the voice remote to do some administration of their router customers can pause connectivity by device Parents can can set dark times for kids devices for instance You can get notifications when new devices access the network that way you're sure that only the devices you want accessing it or accessing it You can create profiles and of course do all the things like change the network name the SSID Change the password, etc. Comcast has also invested in a company called plume which makes mesh network extenders similar to Yeah, and Comcast is going to release its own version of those called the X-Fi pods Later this year. I don't know if pods is actually the final name of it, but they're calling it that in the press release So this is like Comcast is like kind of Getting up to speed with technology. Yeah close to it I mean, you know the mesh networks are coming later this year, but giving users a Customer-friendly way to manage their routers. I think is incredibly important It's one of the biggest advantages of these new routers like Euro and it's especially great because it kind of demystifies a lot of this technology and a lot of these settings like this kind of stuff was you know Pretty user unfriendly for for many many many years and being able to go in at the router level and decide Which devices can connect hasn't been super easy But this sounds like a really user-friendly way of of enabling that and it's important because one of the reasons that routers get Compromised and then turn into botnets is because people don't know how to go in and keep them updated right now granted if you're renting a Router from Comcast Comcast should keep it updated for you But this is just you know a good way for people to keep on top of that sort of thing absolutely Harmon Kardon has published some details about a forthcoming Cortana powered smart speaker called invoke It's a cylinder similar to the Amazon Echo with a Cortana like light ring at the top and 360 degree sound They can make Skype calls and use all of Cortana's normal features The device will ship this autumn with support on Windows 10 iOS and Android. So by the end of this year We're gonna have a very competitive smart speaker lineup There's numbers Apple's gonna have one obviously we have lots of Amazon Echoes Flooding the market. We've got the Google home. I don't know they haven't given us a price on the Cortana one But you know being able to make Skype calls is a nice little feature that they can tick off the box Even if you add phone calls through some kind of service to echo or even Google voice If you're a Skype user, this is you know, this is gonna be the one that you want I mean and and just the ability to do Bing searches from anywhere in your home is just Incredibly powerful Why do I hear some kind of much searching tone It is good, it's very good in the big search. I just thought that is not bad And you know what more competition in this market is only gonna be better for consumers Drive the technology forward. I think that's really great. Harman Kardon makes really good speakers. So arguably File you this might be you know this there might be an advantage for that as well And I'm curious to see what the price point is gonna be too because the the Apple device is already being Kind of you know the rumors are that it's gonna be really expensive. Yeah, and well That's Apple always makes everything. I know I know I just can't get excited about a Siri based Assistant device hardware device. I just can't I can't get excited. I Just I mean Siri is in the Apple TV, but I feel like that's that's your entry point for me I don't want to have to buy something else. Just just make my Apple TV do all of those things already Chinese ride hailing company Dili Xu Xing began rolling out an English language interface in Beijing Shanghai and Guangzhou hoping to pull in more tourists and international business travelers now Dili has global ambitions, but this is Trying to get English speakers familiar with their service when they are traveling to China The app also now supports real-time text translations between drivers and passengers. That's handy And English language support by phone and email So if you have a problem, you'll be able to talk to someone in English if that is your language of choice Awesome very cool. Oh man I feel like they're just gonna show up in the States and just destroy everything really you think you think that Diti is gonna Drive Uber drive I saw something funny today speaking of Uber I was walking to work and an Uber autonomous vehicle stopped at my intersection And it stopped like perfectly at the stop sign and we were we were about to cross and then an actual Uber driver Pulled out from behind it into oncoming traffic to go around it and cross through the intersection before it Oh, it almost hit us And I was like, ooh, I wish I had this on video because right there autonomous vehicle right there That's what we're looking for autonomous vehicles for An Uber driver just tried to cut off an Uber autonomous vehicle and almost hit pedestrians He's just angry. He's like, he knows that things after his job. Maybe maybe a good point Yeah, I did Uber by the way opening Doing some autonomous vehicle testing up in Toronto now So a lot of people making a big deal out of that because it's the first non-US based test for them So they're moving globally as well. I I think we are gonna get global competitors in this space Microsoft's Panos Panay told CNET. There's no such thing as a pro five right now. He said the no such thing part We said right now Microsoft will only come out with a new service pro model when there is quote meaningful change unquote that quote makes a huge difference in product line unquote Panay says that isn't necessarily a hardware change a rumored surface pro update Might just be a surface pro for with a processor and spec refresh for example Yeah, so Paul Therat and and his team at the rot comm have been following this Rumors about the pro five and it turns out that maybe what they've been following is an upgraded pro four and I I get what Panay is saying because a lot of people are confused that Microsoft makes hardware at all and Microsoft has continually said we just want to make flagship hardware to show people what can be done with the newer versions of our software And then we let all the other manufacturers Innovate and iterate on that and so it makes sense that if you come out with a pro five You would want it to do something entirely different and show like hey, this is this is a new thing that you can do in this space Although when he says it doesn't have to be hardware I get confused I'm like well, but then it's just Windows 10 and that could be anything right Yeah, I mean, I've always been really impressed with the surface pro I think it's a great piece of hardware So, you know always updating the specs of it can never hurt. Yeah But if you were looking for a pro five, you may not get a profile. You may just get a cabby lake based pro four Maybe not wait for that. Yeah another. It's just a name. It's just a name Let's look at the specs and you decide if that's for you Finally Google has an open-source operating system out there called fuchsia Based on its own magenta microkernel. So it's not Linux now Chrome OS based on Linux Android based on Linux this one not this is from the ground up built by Google It is open source The OS arrived in August last year, but up until now has been command line only so the news today is that there's a graphical UI called armadillo. There's a good write-up about it at Ars Technica if you're interested, but essentially it's card based Kind of like the old web OS from palm in a way And and you do a lot of swiping of cards and grouping cards together by type And have the most recent apps on a card. It's very much for phone and tablets though They say it could work on a PC the Magenta microkernel documentation Says that Google is targeting modern phones and modern personal computers with fast processors non-trivial amounts of RAM with arbitrary peripherals doing open-ended computation Non-trivial can't be trivial Yeah, I think a lot of people are gonna look at this and say that's what Google needed another operating system They continually work to put Android apps on Chrome OS. Certainly their segmentation is not an issue. Yeah, but I you know I don't know that this is meant to replace either one of those it could be just a way to trial new Metaphors new graphics new ways of doing things or maybe they're thinking of switching Android over at some time to an entirely different kernel I mean they they they switch their engines on the Chrome browser a while back It would be slightly disruptive, but you you start these projects with the idea of seeing what comes out of them, right? So yeah, I did it for those of you who are interested in weird OSes and I know there are plenty of you out there You might want to check it out. Look it up fuchsia f u c h s i a Hey folks If you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to our other show daily tech headlines calm You can get it as a potty pod podio cast you can get it as a potty. Oh cast You can also get it on the Amazon echo as your flash briefing and get it in the anchor app at anchor FM You can get it as a flash briefing. Yeah, you can get it as you should set it as your flash briefing Is it you yeah You should do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it right now That's my friends is a look at the top stories. All right. Let's talk about electric spelled el e c t r i c k like trick the elect trick From researchers at Carnegie Mellon It is a system. Yes, but spelled some way that's different, right? but Small electrodes are attached to the edges of a conductive surface now The most common surface you'll see them demonstrate as a surface painted with conductive spray paint carbon conductive paint It's kind of thing. Yeah, sometimes you do to shield things from from outside Electronic interference this uses the carbon conductive paint to carry electricity You could also use Velostat, which is a thin material You could use carbon-loaded ABS, which may not mean anything to most of you But those of you who have 3d printers it means you could 3d print an object that could then become touch sensitive Conductive silicone works. They they did it with Jell-O apparently you can conduct enough electricity. They did it with Play-Doh Yeah, but the way it works is a touchscreen any touchscreen like on your tablet Shunts a bit of electric current to ground and then it detects that interruption and figures out where your finger is Carnegie Mellon PhD student yang shang and a few colleagues figured out how to localize that using a set of electrodes So you have pairs of electrodes around the perimeter of the object and they send a small current into the surface Voltage is measured at the other electrodes and when a finger touches the voltage goes down Then this is the trick in electric the current is rotated to give a mesh of different measurements So it comes from the let's say cut the electricity comes from the bottom Electrodes and it's measured then it comes from the side electrodes and it's measured then it comes from the top electrodes And it's measured this is over simplification and it happens so fast that it can do it while you're touching and it's able to use Tomographic reconstruction to plot where your touch is happening on whatever service that you've got So they've shown this thing off. They painted a guitar with conductive paint and made the guitar touch sensitive So you could just slide like a whammy bar on the surface of the guitar They did it with a steering wheel. They did it with a desk where they could just put down Icons for things on an actual wooden desk that was covered with the with the spray paint And you could just touch the picture on the actual desk and launch thing things on your computer You can do it with walls They have one demonstration where you like touch a wall and it turns on your light Just because you're touching a particular point on your wall So they'll be showing this off at the conference on human factors and computing systems in Denver Which is going on now through May 11th and this fascinated both of us. I think right Yeah, it really reminded me of duo skin, which was the the project that came out of MIT's media lab a while back I think they actually maybe talked about this on the show That was a fabrication process that allowed you to use Do touch controls on skin With touch input, you know displaying output wireless communication and it's an all in like in this metallic type tattoo material That is you know, it's not actually tattoo It just looks like like a topical like topical. Thank you like temporary tattoos, but they did I have seen Things that were actual tattoo ink that people are thinking of which I think is amazing Amazing like carbon-conducting paint in your skin. Yes That would be right. Are you kidding me? But but think about this So we can turn our skin into a touchscreen. We can turn our clothes. We've talked about clothing that can be touch sensitive And and now with these guys, you know granted, this is not out of the lab yet They're just presenting it But the go watch the video at their at yang jang's blog. It's impressive and If this becomes a standard thing, I mean right off the bat We had a music teacher in our analysts slack who said I you know the play-doh thing already has my mind running about things I could do in an educational setting I just want to I just want to use Play-doh as like a digital interface for like making music and stuff And so if you just want to like like you push it it would like do like certain notes Yeah, that'd be fun that'd be very relaxing the one they showed in the video is a snowman And then what they showed was you can map it showed them mapping so you press the nose and you long press While you've highlighted what you want it to activate and then you know pressing the nose says ouch That's my nose or something like that, but you could do that with anything you could make any kind of model So yeah, you could make like a play-doh keyboard You could you could make a play-doh tree that played music whatever you want. Oh my god My mind just went to a bad place Dirty went to a rule 34 place, but anyway, well, that's why rule 34 exists because any advanced technology Someone will figure out how to turn it into something dirty. Yes But you know the this whole this whole thing I mean the other thing that caught my eye was the 3d printed objects where you can Print out an object that would be touch sensitive and again They they printed out a Yoda model that when they you know touched its head. It said Yoda quotes But I'm curious what people out there who play with this kind of stuff would turn into a touch sensitive Object which you know what the you could control quad copters with you know You could just print out your own controller and to have touch sensitivity on it Yeah steering wheels where where you could you know honk by just tapping instead of actually building in a Imagine so I was um, oh gosh I can't remember the name, but they're they're doing like headshot photography at our at our work today and The photographer has these little like elements like modular like control elements that he can plug into each other And so he can he can program them to be like this is a button that means like this photo is not going to make it the final cut This button means like this is a yes photo so he can just program them to be whatever he wants But imagine not even needing to have those Little devices and just being able to print it out on paper and have that be your interface or you know having Having a piece of wood that's painted with this touch sensitive ink and be able to program it for whatever you need it for that day Yeah, like that's that's really like that really breaks down a lot of cost barriers for like creating like hardware software integrations You can customize any surface suddenly you just need stickers to change the surface You know or you just print them out on a piece of paper and then put them on The whatever surface that you're holding. Yeah, no granted Everything that you use has to have the electrode interface on it So that's that that's part of this system that isn't easy to replicate And it has to have a connection. So whether it's connected to a transmitter that's bluetooth, or whether it's just plugged in directly That's part of the whoever brings this to market is going to have to figure out that part of it But but that said I mean the play-doh Demonstration that they showed just was a circle that you put the play-doh snowman on So so apparently they've figured out some interfaces where you just add touch sensitive things to A base and then the electrodes on the base are able to to read where the touch happens Yeah, yeah, I'm excited about this I think there's a lot of really cool stuff that that can be done using this technology Well, if you want to read up more about it tech crunch has a good write-up at it or you can go to yang dot dash Zhang dot me. That's y a n g dash z h a n g dot me And find his research on electric or if you happen to be going To the conference on human factors and computing systems in denver. You could actually see it in action Thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit and helps us find these cool stories Keep in coming folks vote on them submit them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com Got some messages before we're out of here today norm said. Hey tom You mentioned your patreon only post last week as you do from time to time and I wondered why I didn't see it I assumed it was going to my spam filter, but when I searched there, I didn't find anything I looked on the patreon settings and lo and behold all of my email notifications were unchecked I'm not sure if this is by default Or I did this myself, but I thought I'd send this out so folks can check to see if they're getting them Yeah, if you're not getting your email alerts about daily tech news show posts You might want to take a look he says in addition you mentioned a shout out to the three-year contributors And I'm pretty sure I've been contributing since close to the beginning and I didn't see my name there It was three-year anniversary and I will word it better next time But it was only people who had hit three years in may that are listed in that post. Thank you norm And then we had an email also From Ian that said tom in here from you know what the weather is like in canada In the last show 30 24 You quickly mentioned that you would like an app that put all of your messaging apps into one blackberry hub does that you can Get it from the play store I use it for sms all my email accounts telegram facebook messenger bbm whatsapp direct messaging on instagram And it also does call history It's been really nice having everything chronologically listed in one app instead of jumping around icons I find it really handy when I forget what a message came from or where a message came from You just go into the hub and they're all listed in order freaking love the show Ian This is fascinating. Thank you Ian for sending that I it didn't say sms or anything In the description, but he says that it seems to just integrate with whatever sms client you're using On the device. Uh, so that may be why they don't put sms. It's just drawing it in out of the operating system But it is pretty darn close To that unified device that I was talking about where you just don't have to know where someone's sending You something that's that's great. That is great Uh, and then finally we got an email here from satcha s in roseville, california Parentheses bright and sunny. Good to hear. I was listening to friday's show about passwords And I have a tip for people who speak more than one language My mother tongue is tamel and I use both tamel and english words in my passphrase Or sometimes only tamel words in english It looks like some jumbled up characters, but it makes sense to me and it's easier to remember And you know, like I said, it's all about speed bumps. Obviously if somebody comes at you with a tamel dictionary attack, you're screwed Uh, but the chances of that are fairly low like tamel is probably one of the last dictionaries Some hackers are going to try when they're attacking you. Well, they it wasn't until now until now Uh, no, exactly. That's that's how that starts. But yeah, I don't know that I would do this with spanish If I'm a spanish speaker because spanish is a fairly common language But if you speak a a very uncommon language mixing the words together might be a good way to do it Yeah, that's a really great idea. Or, you know, just password manager it up and go for completely random Yeah, that's that's actually what bart was recommending on friday's show exactly. So Um, but yeah, you can you can do both too. Well, past phrases are I think they're proven to be as secure as randomized Yeah, we we talked about it friday and there's there's some stipulations to that but in general, yeah Uh, with with a couple of tweaks you can make them super super secure, right? Well, thank you Veronica Belmont as always what you got going on these days tell folks about Oh, you know, the usual bot stuff you can subscribe to my newsletter over at bot zine.org to check out bot zine The latest and greatest from bots in ai in the week that was I just made up that tagline. That was pretty good Yeah, we're not yet an alexa skill, but maybe I should work on that Um, and then uh, if you want to see what else i'm working on sword and laser dot com robot.io Those are all my big projects and me and tom are going to be at bacon Over memorial day weekend. So if you're going to be at bacon if you like fantasy stuff, come check it out It's not bacon I imagine the hotel would serve you bacon. Uh, it's bacon. It's in the san francisco Oh, no, I'm blanked on the which area airport marriott. Yeah, airport marriott It's in the san francisco marriott. So if you're in the san francisco area go to bacon.org B a y c o n dot o r g uh, check it out and come join us We'll be there. 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I like touchy subject here like here's my neck because i'm sitting up straight now Oh my gosh, we can't see your face It's a very low chair Not bacon daily touch news show. Nice. Uh, oh, oh, oh, can I touch can touch can't Can touch this can can touch this instead of can't touch this got it No more touchables Jellos gelatricity Electric paint what could possibly go wrong a lot of things a lot of things This uh touch anything uh, microsoft's glacial pro fiving pros Pro fiving spatial profiling pro glacial profiling Pro fiving. Where is this one? I don't know if i might see you microsoft's glacial fiving It's working hard. I see you. Yes, appreciate the effort touched by an os I don't want to be touched by an os ouch. That's my nose the world that your fingertips That's you know my fingers touch the world. I sing the play-doh electric So throw back to the play-doh electric the fame Uh, not bacon Go fcc yourself.com Yeah Some binging speakers electric paint is the new black I like touching subject. Yeah, touchy subject is good. It's the runaway winner It's running away. It's running away Do do do I just think like I could have a touch screen on this desk and get rid of everything You could get rid of the keyboard get rid of the sound board I don't know if I get rid of the mixer because the mixer is analog But I could I could go to a digital mixer And then you I mean you just talking about getting a new interface Even you'd still need one of those to well, I could play I could make the mixer be in the computer I could make the sound board be in the computer There are benefits to not doing that though. You're right I see a surface and I want to paint it touch sensitive Do It would also be black because that's the color of the touch sensitive material Oh, you see that carbon conductive paint is always black So I'm wondering how durable it is ways because the paint is also black Because it needs to uh, you need to make it durable enough so you can use it every day and not have it rub off after a week It's really durable It won't rub off in a week. And what if there are environmental concerns if it's uh carbon? I mean and it rubs off into it does you can are environmental concerns because it is carbon Have you ever thought of just uh, singing in order like you go up to like uh, like a faster Order at a fast food restaurant Do you sing in the bathroom while you're sitting on the can Do you sing in the bathroom when you're sitting on the can I do not Because it'd be really easy to identify you if you just open the door you hear singing Okay, I'm done now Okay, at least you're not doing the uh, what's the fival thing you used to do on the set on tech Oh my god, you remember that They remember everything I have a long Oh my god If I'm entertained or frightened or both No, you should be frightened because it would encourage Patrick to do that that cartoon voice. He does. Oh, yeah His little squeaky voice I'm gonna do that on Friday. He's gonna be on the show on Friday. Oh, yeah I gotta mash it all up What you're done singing you have to go I gotta go it's picture day. I gotta go get my face on picture when it sounds like school Yeah, is this for the yearbook? Yes, and I have to pee really bad. I had to work on a long spear. All right fine. That's the second one I can't work you with at all. Okay. All right. Bye guys. Bye. Bye Hortained Oh, Hore tamed. Yes Hore tainia That's Hore tainment Yeah, I'm I'm sad that she had to go Can relieve to Well, no, no, not at all. I'm sort of fascinated in what what singing might have happened next Oh, I've seen it all already Oh, I know I have to but you get you get Veronica tired enough and eventually all sorts of funny things start happening Yeah That's why you need to come to bacon folks. You just don't know you don't know I can't because I have a child and wife You also don't live in San Francisco. Well, then I have to uh visit my folks Like you with your grandkids. That's Memorial Day weekend. Yeah But if you're not leaving town and you live in San Francisco Or in the Bay Area, they don't have to live in San Francisco. True. You don't have to live in the city of San Francisco just near the bay Within driving distance. Yeah, even if it's on the dock, although you could fly in you could fly in because it's right there at the airport I fly I'm not saying you Roger. I'm saying no. No. No. I'm just thinking in general It's like is it some people flying for it's one of those if you get one of those saver fairs or something Hawaii bacon, Hawaii We'll check calendar. It's at the end of the month folks. Check it out. It's Memorial Day weekend No, you don't have to live on the dock to the bay Although if you have a vessel docked at the bay, it could also be quite convenient. You could take the boat to bacon Yes, because it's by the water. Yeah next on the water. I don't know where the nearest marina would be Well, you really just need a place to moor and then take like a little skiff or kayak I don't know if the airport Marriott allows skiffs it might I know maybe The bay gets kind of touching around that area. That's why pilots hate it You don't want pilots landing on boats No Can you look up bacon.org though and and Make sure we got Marriott, right because we keep saying Marriott. I want to double check that Bacon San Mateo, right? Bay 26 to the 29th Hold on. Hold on. You know, they should put the address here Gosh darn it little momento aha Rider no, no welcome hotel. Here it is Yeah, the hotel part San Mateo Marriott San Francisco airport Boom got it, right? Okay, and the uh bacon rates are 139 One 139 bucks tonight. Well, yeah, it's by the san francisco airport bio cows like wait is in san mateo or san francisco It is in san mateo at the san francisco airport. Yes San Mateo is a county. Oh In a town Yes, it's both Uh, no When your whole world is black now I have painted black for real That song only reminds me of that CBS show called tour of duty Because that was the theme song to the opening. Oh, was it? Touchy subject a little chum What are you batman or adam west batman? That's a looney tunes reference. I think You outsmarted me a little chum Wait, who said that? I think of the looney tunes character It's a villain Oh, I think he's after bugs bunny and might could be totally remembering this wrong Or could be for some reason when you said that little chum. I was thinking of um So remember when the pink pan pink pan there used to be a cartoon back in the day Oh, yeah, that's how I think of pink panther. But then they had they inserted like a uh in between cartoon. Oh, yeah, it's bugs bunny with um Hair with the shark with the shark and a little goldfish And the the shark went or swimming around with like a tuxedo vest and a top hat I remember that Because he used to see didn't he used to say chum but he talked with like a eastern european or german accent And chum used to be a more common word back gotcha He would say gotcha He's always chasing after the flounder Are you excited about the tick coming to amazon? I saw the Uh the one that they were showing the pilot episode. Mm-hmm It's i'm kind of on the fence. I mean the writing wasn't great. So You know if if the writing gets better I could totally be into it, but as it was it was just okay on the pilot Yeah Man and I breezed through Um not kung fu fighter uh iron fist But uh what an excessive number episodes for that show Yeah, I slept through large portions of that and I still don't feel like I missed anything You could cut the number of episodes in half and tell the exact same story And actually make it a little more Interesting because then the pacing would be faster totally Wow, that's like man. It's like really That's it and it's only his one fist It's not both Something I mean they had that but I never read the comics. Did you know he had I read one or two That I mean it is the one fist, but really I mean come on you rebooted everything else Why don't you just make it all his you know, but then people would complain like oh you changed the character Well, they changed jessica jones I mean not a lot, but they did so they changed luke cage and Daredevil Did they change their powers though? No, probably not But they meant they they I mean luke cage is not supposed to be bald Just tell her shape. Yeah, but that's that's different than changing as actual how the powers work Changes having him have two fists would be a fundamental. I thought I thought jessica jones could fly too. Maybe I'm maybe I'll get that power later Aw chris ferrell called us a podcast inspiration. Oh, nice. Thank you chris ferrell Everyone down. Oh, that's the other place I need to visit heralds Because they have one down here. Where is it? so in in last uh last friday's pre-show We were talking with len perola to about banks that had uh third like third bank and Okay, we just got an email from sonia Who sent us a picture of fifth third bank? Which makes it look like because they used the fraction five three in the logo That they're they're not the third bank, but they're the fifth thirds is the awkward name of the bank Fifth third bank. Yeah But so it's it's the fifth number of the third bank It's like five thirds bank it'd be like naming the bank half bank But then that wouldn't sound very good because half sounds like you're not getting all the bank So now you're getting more than a more than a full bank. You're getting five thirds of a bank So does that mean my interest rates are better my savings account? Yeah, maybe maybe that's what that's trying to imply also shannon wrote in With it said that our pre-show discussion on friday's show reminded her of a song When we were talking about don't put your trash in my trash can She sings the song whenever her trash can is full I like that people are writing in about the pre and post show. That's awesome. It means people are listening And we're saying things that you're listening to Alrighty, uh, well, we are out of here. Thanks everybody for listening and for supporting us on patreon And we love you the most we'll be back with the frenchman tomorrow And see how he feels about his french election Goodbye everybody