 Good and one story to get better. Yeah, I mean, there's certain shows like the show Vita. I don't know if anyone's watching that Stars At first I was like, yeah, this isn't the show for me and now I'm kind of hooked But it took like five episodes or like life the Spanish word for Vita her life I mean, I was hoping you were gonna say it's the story that chronicles the downfall of Sony's handheld game system Not I thought it was gonna be the untold story of the company that merged with Vell To create a new cheese project It's what we will all be using in place of via from now on right I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna say I heard about this Vita NPR the other morning. Yeah, that'll that'll make me feel even better Well and Vita got together and made cheese One was a milk processor the other was a spread maker you put those two words together and made cheese as my contention That's what happened. Tom made the cheese today. I sure did well done Well, okay We're not gonna have any news break right right right right looking It's kind of calmed down a bit. Yeah Everybody was at the Instagram announcements and there's nobody left to write any news one billion users It's a lot Why don't they just take a collage of everyone's Instagram and make one planet Earth. Oh I'm pretty sure that's been done. I'm not even joking like I'm pretty sure someone did did something like that I was like that stuff. So I like to zoom around. I want Sounds like a Google that you didn't want to see and you can't unsee. Oh, yeah No, Google does that with they if you allow your photo to be used on on maps It will attach it to the map so that you can see Oh, right Has an overlay that use Microsoft had a thing that they were touting a long time ago at one of their events And they never I don't know if it ever got followed through on but they had a big plan for no I mean like a photo mosaic. Yeah, no, I think Google Earth had something like that Yeah, listen man It's the internet if you think of something the first thing you should ever do is search to find out if somebody did it Because they probably did yes Three-legged gerbil porn done found it It's Coming soon to IGTV it's a category Coming through died extreme sports chimps. Oh my gosh, that's awesome Don't say ideas like that one. That's a good one. It's like that's the one you say for when all your when all your chips are down and you need to All your chimps are down chimps are down The most extreme primate video 2004 Wait, it's probably just another word for a human. No, it's it's chimps. Oh, I mean like extreme sports not extreme video It's been extreme sport. Oh, I mean, it's still not I'm not betting against it existing Mxing what you want rose lose You want an ape on a on a motorcycle or some kind of like Skateboard going off sick jumps is what you I'm just saying like yeah What we're doing now is what you have to do if you want to have a new idea like don't just say apes sports You got to start refining it. Yeah, okay Do a few searches find out what's been done with apes sports then pivot. I want to chimp surfing on a dolphin It's probably been done Tom searches or a chimp surfing dolphin can also be a porpoise. It could be. Oh My god, there's multiple images now. They're all fake and But someone's dolphin pulls water skiing chimpanzee video right from the Associated Press No, the chimp is on the dolphin see now. This is where we get the better idea We refine it and say no no no when I say on he has to be on not around not within close proximity All right, we should probably do the show. You're totally right. This is a lesson We'll get back to this million dollar idea after the show And it is million all right here we go three two Daily tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday, June 20th 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane from studio my daughter's dog tore up the thing upstairs. Now. There's foam everywhere. I'm Scott Johnson And of course our producer Roger Chang Hello everyone Hmm. Hmm. That was a enticing introduction today, right? Like it too. We're gonna talk about being brave with your browser and maybe get paid for it But let's start with few tech things you should know IDC report shipments of AR and VR headsets dropped 30.5 percent year over year in Q1 Most of the decline was attributed to the end of bundling deals that included headsets with the purchase of a smartphone So there are fewer of those IDC believes that the market will return Maybe growth of about six percent by the end of this year. It also ends right Microsoft launched Microsoft news I got this this morning before the show So I've had a chance to mess with it a news engine that comes with rebranded apps for iOS and Android and powers MSN comm Microsoft edge and news app in the windows 10 System, of course, you have stuff coming through skype xbox and outlook comm MSN comm will keep its name Microsoft news curates news from 800 editors worldwide. Just a quick note. It's like what you expect It's kind of like flip board or a million of those other competitors But I welcome them to the fray can't wait for the eventual rebranding of Microsoft news apps to msn There you go Disney raised its offer For the large majority of 20s first century fox that it wants to buy the offer is now valued at about 71.3 billion dollars That's up from the previous offer of 52.4 billion and now worth more than comcast competing offer of 65 billion Comcast bid is all cash. So what disney did in this new offer is said shareholders of the option of either receiving cash Or disney stock executive chairman at 21st century fox rupert murdoch issued a statement praising the disney deal It's like an auction Who will be the highest bidder 100 microsoft employees signed an open letter urging ceo sautiane adela to cancel contracts with us immigration and customs enforcement and clients who directly enable the agency And an internal memo sautiane adela said that microsoft is only supporting legacy mail calendar messaging and document management workloads for the agency Whole thing to be honest made me think oh, I bet i still use as windows xp Oh, but they do Let's talk a little bit more about clothing Scott let's do it time to move to vista everybody on the border Um amazon amazon's in the news as they often are and they're making its wardrobe service available to all us prime members So here's what you do shoppers go to a special wardrobe section of amazon where they can pick between three and eight items of clothing to try This is starting to sound like a familiar service. You're probably not wrong There's a lot of these sorts of things But this is amazon customers then have a week to try them on before sending them back or paying for them Wardrobe has clothing from amazon in house brands as well as bigger names like adidas. Levi's and tommy hill figure Uh, i'm trying this by the way because i have gone through a number of these, uh Man clothes fitting uh services and none of them really worked for me very well So I think this is actually for me to be honest Well amazon doing this because of course you can buy a lot of clothes through amazon makes a lot of sense But if the other services haven't worked for you scott, why didn't they and Can amazon solve whatever issue that was yeah, that's a really good question I mean part of it feels like well, maybe i'm um, this is just another step into the ecosystem getting a little bit more out of my prime membership Cost maybe a little lower. I'm fine with going with amazon branded picks and amazon choice types of stuff Which is what a lot of this clothes will be Uh, i'm not picky that way So so for me it sounds like I may I may save money versus some of these other services And then some i'm just don't like tall people straight up They don't give me the the tall versions of stuff I need So I got shirts that look like i'm trying to show off my butt crack every time I bend over so, uh Outside of that small personal note I'm gonna definitely try this and see see what's up a couple of important notes for those of you out there who do use Things like stitchfix or latode or mr. Collection. There's no subscription for this Unlike those other you don't have to pay you just order if you don't buy anything you don't pay anything That's a that's a big differential there But if you wear something for a week and you decide I don't like this Who gets it next you're only supposed to try it on you're not supposed to wear it around Well the store and there are rules about what condition it's supposed to be and when it got it got it Yeah, I mean it's it's okay anyway The eu's legal affairs committee approved the copyright directive including articles 11 and 13 that we talked about last thursday and yesterday with patrick Beja Article 11 requires sites to pay a license to publishers to include snippets of content in addition to links like on google news for example Article 13 makes sites liable for copyright infringement by users unless upload filters are put in place Next steps for the directive include passing through the eu council So it would have to get approval there and then it would face a final european parliament vote A plenary session as it is called that's expected to happen sometime between december at the earliest or the first half of 2019 Now a few folks out there are still confused about the two directives I highly recommend you go back and listen to thursday's show for a more comprehensive discussion But one common request is to explain what the two articles are intended to do Article 11 is intended to stop google and facebook from linking to publishers content without paying a fee They believe a snippet of a sentence or two should be considered copyright infringement. It's not currently It's considered fair use or the equivalent thereof So they want this new directive to say no you have to pay for that Article 13 is intended to stop copyright infringement by users who upload content to site So it takes away the safe harbor protection from a site unless they show they are attempting to stop users From uploading infringing items by putting in some sort of filter and then then they get some of those safe harbor protections back So if I raised my hand and said but tom How about just a link do links count as a snippet or just Content from where the link goes just a link won't count as a snippet There is some some debate over whether the headline if you scrape the headline from the site and use the exact same headline Whether that would count Okay, I don't know how to feel about this shit I I mean what I'm gonna do is actually go back and listen to this thursday show and get the comprehensive But I still I don't know part of me Need jerks on this and then part of me is like, well, all right. We'll see how it goes. I don't know don't know how to feel Well, let's see how you feel about IGTV Instagram announced IGTV instagram television for longer form videos from content creators All content creators by the way anybody can do this IGTV will be both a standalone app and then you can also watch from within the instagram app itself And from the explore tab, that's how you get to it through instagram IGTV lets users not just celebrities upload videos. They're vertical. They're not square cropped like instagram has been Historically up to one hour long That's a huge jump from the one minute maximum that instagram currently allows through the app or instagram's web interface So you can upload through the web interface as well Viewers can use the browse tab to see recommended and popular videos Creators they're following the company also announced. It has one billion users I think the most interesting thing about this is this isn't going to raise the cap on instagram posts Those will still be capped at 60 seconds. That's what they're saying is we want to have a new section that competes with youtube essentially Called IGTV. In fact, we're going to have a new app for that But we're going to make it available on instagram because we know that's where all of your followers are And so anybody that follows you on regular instagram will also like with stories follow you on IGTV It's now the third service that instagram has provided Yeah, I mean like youtube anybody can have an account and upload videos whether anybody watches them or not you're allowed to participate but And instagram says for now no commercials But if you read the tea leaves, obviously their their big creators can make the company and the creators money No, they actually went ahead and said like we want creators who have brand Relationships to make money so we will allow them to link out from these videos to those brands So that that's that's acknowledged. That's built right in I just don't like this talk of vertical instead of square not that I need square But how about a little horizontal people? I don't want to watch my content in vertical view only Okay, old man get with the times everything's vertical now with the kids Yeah Completing about verticals so four years ago If eventually your roku or your apple tv gets an app for this Which would be great and get the content there like you can for youtube tv and other stuff Hey, why not Have that so I can look at it on a tv without wanting to shoot something. I mean seriously horizontal, baby Forget this vertical business Old man yells at horizontal video of cloud Yeah, I'll be interested to see what because there's always celebrities on all these platforms Who kind of rises to the top? Is it the same folks who? currently Enjoy a lot of success and viewership on the shorter videos that that they upload to instagram Is it a whole new crop of folks? How does it compete with something like youtube which seems like the most obvious competitor? I don't know. I don't watch any videos on instagram. I hate instagram videos, but I'm also an old person This will change it for you Perhaps is what instagram hopes Uh a team at mit has developed a system that monitors human brainwaves to help robots correct errors. This is Really cool Human brains naturally send a signal called error related potentials or errp's when you notice a mistake This is not something you have to think about It's just a natural thing that they found like if you're watching someone else do something And you you see them make a mistake your brain sends out this errp signal So They monitor that while you're watching the robot do its work and when the monitor notices an errp signal It tells the robot to pause so as you see the robot about to make a mistake your brain signals Involuntarily and the robot pauses and goes. Whoa. What am I doing? Then you can make a hand gesture There's also monitors to uh look at your hand gestures So you don't even have to speak You just point and be or you know or make a make a hand gesture And tell the robot what it should be doing instead the robot corrects itself and goes on now Obviously, this won't work for every situation. This is the beginning of this system But for testing it they had a robot moving a power drill to a target they had like several targets and the robot would have to hit the right target as it was drilling and They improved from 70 percent correct selection of the robot to 97 percent once they use this new mind reading system Wow The headset part is rad. I'll give points for that Uh, and also I think the potential of this is really cool and also the shortening of the name is great It literally says irp and I think you mean the error related potential. Yeah, there you go That's sort of like when you say that to another human about to make a mistake irp Yeah, right. No, it's exactly it And and what's amazing is this gives the humans a role with the robots where all the robots are going to take our jobs We're going to be the supervisors and it'll be super easy because we don't even have to think about it We just have to watch and go oh You know and that's it and then maybe wave our hands Well, I look forward to digital error related potentials or derps. Those will be great Uh, let's talk about AMC not the channel, but the theater chain. Uh, they have extended its stubs loyalty program Which is something they already had But it's more now. It includes a subscription service called stubs a list. It's for 1995 a month And on starts on june 26. So not very much longer from now members of the service can Have up to three movies a week. Excuse me and uh multiple movies in one day if they wish So let's say you wanted to see I don't know the Incredibles 2 and you wanted to watch it three times on this saturday. You could do that But that would be your week Uh, this includes and this is the important part and one of the big distinguishing factors between this and movie pass That includes iMacs and 3d Atmos system all that kind of stuff up to three reservations can be made in advance The plan also waves online ticketing fees and offers discounts on food and drinks My understanding is some of that food and drink stuff is upgrade. So like if you got a medium thing You get a large for no extra cost that sort of stuff Uh, so we'll see how it goes 20 bucks a month For amc's attempt to I don't I didn't see that it included at most, but I guess that makes sense Uh, did you see that? I mean, so we did an article this morning on team is in there It listed at most nice they they could have listed it Thinking that well, of course, it's there because this is the one thing everybody wants So I don't have a good source on that but I think the advanced reservations is one of the more important advantages here too because you can't with movie pass you have to be in The theater present you have to be in the location they geolocate you before they can approve Uh, the the purchase and obviously this is amc's way to compete with movie pass And if you go to amc theaters regularly for your movies This is a better deal even though it's more expensive if you see but one or two movies a month It's probably worth it because you get the advanced ticket sales You can see the imx and 3d movies if you want You get the stubs loyalty integration, which you don't necessarily with movie pass even though people tried to work around that It's it's a really good offering by amc. Although it locks you into amc Yeah, that's the only thing. Yeah, I don't know. I see a lot of indie movies And so I'm not necessarily at amc theaters and I also don't go to as many movies as some of you So this is the sort of thing where I'm like I would pay $20 a month and like maybe see one movie Or end up seeing a movie. I didn't really want to see because I'm trying to like deal with the you know, this this uh, You know the software that I have but For anybody who loves the theater and you're right tom amc is you know First-run movies lots lots of theaters lots of locations lots of movies. So I don't know I'll tell you what if I didn't have a wife who worked for fandago and the benefits they're off that accrue Uh, I would absolutely do this because most of the time I end up going to amc theaters To see movies with the exception of a cinemark and this could drive me away from choosing the cinemark because Honestly, it's more about time convenience when I choose between the two versus Brand loyalty or even location Well, and for those of us who have I'm sorry scott for you know, that's because of us who are so used to uh Reserve seating which I am like I won't even go to a theater anymore unless it has reserve seating because it's Just such a nice way to go to the theater. That's a huge plus Oh, yeah the advance because you can still get the reserve seating with movie pass But you have to wait until you show up at the theater, which means all the good seats are gone Go ahead scott. No, no that was exactly what I was going to ask is about the reserve reserve seating situation And if if amc is offering that as part of this or I don't because you can do advanced purchases Reserve seating is just part of buying the ticket. It doesn't really matter what service you use But when you buy a ticket in advance, you get a better chance of picking a good seat Whereas if with movie pass one of the reasons that I wouldn't want to use it here Is I have to wait until right before the show to buy my ticket, which means I'm probably going to be sitting way up front Or something. I don't like that. Yeah, that's the whole way of doing it. Yep Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines You can get it at daily tech headlines.com All right, the brave browser we've talked about on the show before it's an independent browser That blocks ads and trackers by default one of the things we've talked about previously on the show Is that it uses its own cryptocurrency called the brave attention token or bat? To let you pay websites either a regular amount you can say oh give this much to them every month or Automatically based on how much time you spend and that was one of the coolest parts of it Is you could tell brave just track my you know, how much time I spend at these participating sites And then split the money up amongst them based on that at the end of the month The sites have to register with brave in order to receive the payment So it doesn't work for sites that haven't registered and at this point most sites haven't registered but Brave is doing something new Users can opt in right now to a trial that will deliver 250 pre-packaged ads now. I know I said it does ad blocking But they want to reward publishers for responsible ads and this is their way of doing it brave says during the test They will track users But not share that information with third parties the reason they want people to agree to be tracked Is so they can train a machine learning algorithm To eventually be used on the device itself in the browser and brave never see what it learns about you So if you want to join this you can do so at community brave.com the whole point of the test The end goal for brave Is that you would be able to opt in to ad delivery That would be downloaded to your browser like a package of ads Would be downloaded to your browser and then on your device The machine learning algorithm would determine which of those ads to show you in the browser Based on what it has learned on your device about you, but that would never be shared with anyone else It would stay on your device. It would not leak out any personal information about you And users would get 70 percent of the revenue from the ads in the form of the brave attention token That they could then use to pay the sites that they like the content from Uh, another thing to note here is that brave was founded by former mozilla CEO brendan eich He left mozilla after a lot of controversy over his donation of a thousand dollars to support a california amendment to Bandgate marriage. So some people are never going to use brave just on that alone But it is besides that a very interesting approach to say let's have responsible ads that don't track you and you get paid for seeing them I'd like to know. Yeah, what does that 70 of the ad revenue in the form of crypto? Come out to you know, I know that these are uh early days But but you know, it's like the incentive to I don't know buy a machine and start mining bitcoin to me I'm like, I have no incentive because it's like way too late and you know, it's going to take forever But yeah, what are we talking about here? Yeah, and to be clear, you don't have to do any mining here There's no mining involved. I know that cryptocurrency usually goes hand-in-hand with that It's just using the token as a payment They're even saying like eventually we might want to not even have to use the token and and do regular payments But that's a little farther down the line. They also want the token to be used for other things outside the browser So so my biggest hang up with this actually I think there's some interesting technology and interesting philosophical Sort of underpinnings on this and I think that's it's great to see Something like this join the fray of of browsers um I my biggest problem is I don't I don't know how practical it sounds on the face of it to people who are Just looking for a better browsing experience So if somebody's coming along and going hey scott, what do you recommend these days chromes really bogged down on my notebook or I can't stand edge or there's a problem with firefox I like to give them alternatives and tell them where to go I don't know that brave is giving me enough here to to have that make any sense to anybody Even on a surface level. I may have some friends that are into cryptocurrency And they're mining bitcoin or whatever they're doing and maybe they're all over this by now But it feels like a weird play to just sort of placate That market or people that are into cryptocurrency values. Yeah, I'm I'm glad you're bringing this up because That is the difficulty in being transparent and explaining this but Risking giving a misimpression There's has nothing to do with cryptocurrency. They're just using the token so that they can more easily manage the payments The only reason they're even mentioning that they use the token I think is because they want to be clear about how that happens But you don't have to know anything about cryptocurrency You don't have to know anything about anything The key it's kind of a chicken and egg problem if they get enough people participating in this The user would download brave answer a question would are you okay with ads? Yes Uh, great Would you like us to automatically determine how to pay sites or would you like to pick them yourself? You know, you just make the choice and then that's it. You don't have to know anything You don't even have to know cryptocurrency is is under the big under the hood The you use an entirely different payment processor to cash out your money I I've signed up daily tech news show dot com today. And so I I know how it works and it uses Uh a payment processor. It's not PayPal, but it's one like that to to get you your cash So there's there's nothing About there's nothing none of that hype around You know cryptocurrency around it except when they sort of indicate that like oh Maybe bat could be used to purchase other things outside the browser sometime But you can absolutely turn them into cash. Yeah, I mean it's a unit of measurement That's just the unit that we're using. I think sky you make a good point, right? If anybody is Really dedicated to you know, the advancement of machine learning models and specifically advertisers and you know third parties having a lot less data on us end users Then I think that this whole thing sounds great. It's really interesting. I'd love to see how it evolves and at the same time Tom's explanation like wait, it's not about cryptocurrency. Don't worry about it's like that's already the problem for a lot of people It's like is it a good browser? Does it look good? Yeah, well the plug-in situation like talked about this this morning and tom made a good point about speed I was noticing some of their they had some speed stuff on there Which appeals to me and look at and go Oh, how are we performing versus say chrome which is kind of the juggernaut right now And it shows better speeds across the board. Tom is very quick to point out So is everything else until they start adding features that make it compete well enough with chrome to have people switch Because they have the features but those features slow things down like all of that stuff matters to me as well And uh, I guess all I'm saying is it's a weird pitch Like it's a pitch that I don't think is at a universal like hey everyone who uses the internet check this out kind of pitch Although it is just uh, you know, it's it's a it blocks ads by default, right? So even if you weren't going to be a power user, uh, you know helping robots understand our Browsing behavior better if it's a good browser then all is not lost Right and and honestly the pitch is super easy It's hey, would you like a browser that keeps your information private and actually cuts you in on the money made from advertisements And blocks the rest of the ads That's an easy pitch, right? But the pitch becomes complicated when people go well, hold on. How do you do that? Like that sounds great. How does it work? And so once you start explaining how it works, then the pitch becomes more complicated, right? Yeah, that's why I said it's kind of it turns on us and then shares the data with You know, well no and that is the great thing about the eventual goal after they train the machine learning algorithm is They will have the data stored with your browser So you are in control of it Which is which is something that that most of these systems like trust us will keep it private It's like it's not even going to be on their servers Right It might even be better just to say hey co-founder of milzilla is making a new browser You guys should check it out and and a kind of I if someone had That's fraught with peril as well, isn't it? It is but they could go and look at it themselves and say Oh, it's walking me through this process of signing up a thing that lets me do cool stuff like blocking it Oh neat like they'll learn it on their own without me having to give them a power point I feel like maybe that's the better way to push this thing, but I don't know. It's weird brave new world The the premium processor is called uphold at uphold.com if you want to If you if you were interested in how you get your money out of it nice Well, thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show at reddit.com You can also hang out on facebook with us facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show And thanks to everybody who gives us great ideas every day and thanks to everybody who sends us the emails those two so Pardon me. John who's an it manager at a 911 center in pennsylvania Was listening to our show with just in the other day where we were discussing how ios 12 will have Emergency kind of 911 geolocating built in so it's not exactly like find my friends geolocating But we sort of we're kicking around the idea of okay. Does this you know, does 911 need more Does 911 need this and how would it uh make it better? John says when you call 911 and the 911 operator asks, where are you? What's your address? They don't just hang up after verifying where you are Then the operator needs to determine if the caller needs police or a fire department medical services Maybe all three maybe a combo of the three and then the 911 operator needs to integrate the caller to make sure that the proper response Is sent to the emergency? Is it a prior burglary burglary or is the burglary happening right now? Those are kind of different situations. Is it a single family home? Is it a nursing home? Does the medical situation require basic or advanced life support and so on? Third the 911 operator can offer critical instructions to save a life CPR instructions even instructions to deliver a baby. These are highly skilled folks being able to pinpoint a caller's exact location Is the first step in the 911 response process? But the process goes a long way from there to provide emergency services and tech Is not able to bridge that gap yet at least not yet on its own without a human 911 operator I Agree I'm glad they're on that line and that it isn't just some robot determining whether they need to come help me with my heart attack In the middle of the park where I think I'm I'm still confused what Justin's problem was like I thought this was a pretty straightforward story of like hey Now ios like android and other operating systems Will be able to share a more accurate location data with the 911 operator to speed things along and Justin got into like Why is it even neat? I didn't quite understand You know, I kind of you know, I Contributed to that as well. I have been lucky enough to never call 911 in my life Not that I can recall so I don't know that much about what goes on behind the scene So I was really glad that john uh wrote in but We were sort of saying is this something that 911 Has needed and just doesn't have and his apple kind of swooping into to make the whole process better And I think what john's point is There's nothing wrong with having added value But there's nothing that that you know pressing a button on your iPhone. It's by the way When you say it the way you said it just now apple sweeping in to make it better It gives apple way too much credit apples behind They are the last one to the party to implement this on their operating system So it's it's apple finally adding a thing that helps Um, but at least you know at least john points out like hey, don't worry about the human operators They're not going to get replaced by this anytime soon and that's that's important too. Yeah Because the yeah, as he as he very eloquently pointed out There's a there's a lot that happens in these calls and I have called 911 before so I don't know Maybe that's the difference of the attitude too. Well, thank you john It's always nice to have somebody who's an expert in a topic that we discussed to give us more context Never stop also. Thanks to scott johnson an expert in all things I'll tell you what uh, you want the 411 on what i'm doing You can call 411. I guess you can uh head on over To frog pants.com. 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Justin robber young will be back with us tomorrow We'll talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com Club hopes you have enjoyed this program I wasn't trying to throw it justin under the bus either. I just didn't quite get his point I think it was well any problem not a justin problem exactly But I mean I I remember sort of saying like yeah, but you know, what's what is 9-1-1 lacking? Is it you know, is this outdated system type thing? I just didn't know Well, I don't think he was saying 9-1-1, you know, isn't good I think the uh The assumption I was making is that we all understand that when you have a fixed landline They know where you are but with you have a cell phone For a long time they had no idea where you are And this is one of the steps into closing that gap so that when you have a cell phone They can get back to that same kind of service they had on the fixed line and be like, oh, okay We know where you are. You don't have to tell us We can confirm it with you But if you're in a situation where you can't speak You know or or or you're having a medical problem. Uh that way they would be able to send help to your location Without you I'm really trying to think now. Have I ever called 9-1-1? I have called it a couple of times For something that happened that I was a witness to And I I requested somebody call it once because a kid had a seizure in the house when they were over for a party thing And yeah, yeah, oh seizure. I've had 9-1-1 called because of me I Have called twice one to report a fire and another one to report a fight in the middle of the street I do remember, um I'm not proud of this, but I was only like four a friend of mine and I were Pranky in the fire department. We weren't calling 9-1-1, but we were calling the fire department I don't even know what the number was calling it on a fridge or something and just being like And somebody showed up at the house. It was at her house not mine at fireman and boy were we in trouble He wasn't he didn't show up because he thought that there was an emergency He showed up to talk to her mother to tell you yeah, stop it. Yeah, don't do this. Don't do this. Yeah, it was it was a shameful day But I learned a lot Yeah, I remember the police showed up my door and asked for me when I was 16 Which is scared the living crap out of me Uh, because I hadn't done anything as far as I would I'd known and apparently I had ignored a crossing guard when driving back From work that afternoon How long was the time between that happening and somebody coming to your a couple hours? huh So apparently the crossing guard had got upset that I that I and I just missed her I I didn't I wasn't looking You know right crossing guard got upset because she was telling me to stop and I kept going Uh took down my license plate called it into the police the police ran the plate and then came to my house Um, oh, so it wasn't like she's like that little tom merit. He's gonna she didn't know who you were They might have actually it was it's a small enough town that you know, she if she recognized the car She would have known who I was but uh, I assumed she just ran the plate Placement knew who I was because it was john king. He was the chief engineer at the radio station where I worked Nothing ever makes me feel worse than when I don't realize that there's a pedestrian and you're like, I'm so sorry You know and they're understandably like what is wrong with you? Yeah, you know, you're about to kill them Not on purpose. I've been very attentive to crossing guards ever since What's wrong with you almost hit me? I'm sorry. I'll hit you next time Also, I didn't want to ask during the show and derail us too much, but is 411 still a thing Oh, yeah, you know what I was I get I get AT&T's director AT&T assistance thing So I don't know if it's unique to carriers or if on a landline at something else I don't know how it works But like so if I dial 411, I think it's star 411 or something I can I got directory assistance really? Yeah on t-mobile Yeah But didn't it used to be a thing where I could go? Yeah, I was wondering what the uh molecular structure of Styrofoam is. Yeah. What was it back in the day? No 411 was directory assistance Yeah, I'm thinking of a different service Dennis didn't in Highland it seems like Dennis up. There was something like that where I could call it and they would yeah But it wasn't it wasn't uh, I don't think it was 411 It was like I believe it was a not a 1900, but it was a pay for it was a toll service Like the whole point of it was that you would just before the internet And you had questions that you couldn't answer But it's like it was definitely a thing because it became, you know Something that people say Oh 411 was information that was in the old mob bell era 411 was information and you called it for directory assistance Like I need the number of such and such but because it was the service was called information It became a synonym for any kind of information Then there's also what scott's talking about where there was a phone number where you could just call and ask questions about stuff Right, that was not 411. I don't think I don't think that was ever the same thing And then yeah beef points out the uh, the long distance information was 555 1 2 1 2 Uh, are you brave enough to try this browser? That's good Brave name, yeah Didn't we Brave new internet Hold on. I feel like we had a similar headline recently. I meant to talk about why it's called brave Maybe I'm just having deja vu Maybe they just have the domain, but I don't like No, I'm looking through our past headlines and I don't see anything so all right. I guess I'm just having deja vu So it must be the the headline we pick because I remember it I mean brave is a cool name, but yeah, it sort of indicates like ooh, is this dangerous to have to be brave But it's more like bravely changing the ad model For publishing or bravely breaking with the existing I don't know Every time you hear the name brave I think of the cerebellum song brave enough to browse different Oh, isn't that just cribbing off apples think different campaign Eat different and We create that's what headlines do they crib off things all the time Headless man found in topless bar exactly What about browsing via brave adless browser found in ad full state Brave browsing brave The Atlanta Braves and make a browser Crazy brave a new ad model brave Do you crave brave? Answer Men's cologne Brave smells like men's cologne sounds like men's cologne. Oh, how old is it? How long has brave been available to them brave? Brave by menon because if it was 12, 12 days, you could no, I can't say it If you're if you're drowning in jacar noir try brave Was it jacar jacar? It was jacar noir. Yeah, all the boys were not just for redheads What oh from the Pixar movie I get it um 12 days of brave There could be a brave heart joke in there somewhere. I think it's getting to You don't think I should do that one tom. You don't think I think that we should not do that. Okay. I think yeah, I think you're right Now that I've thought about it Tom had a bowl of grumpos this morning. Wow What did you hear what he said? No, I wasn't listening I said 12 years of brave or 12 states. Oh, yeah Bad reference. I mean I may be grumpy that I'm not denying that but I will cop to it. It was a bad reference um What about The think different one. I mean we might be overthinking this a little brave enough to browse different. Yeah, that's great Yeah, that's all right. We're brave enough brave enough to browse different Yeah, we're the question mark. Yeah, I'm gonna say differently to distinguish us from apple So brave enough to to think differently brave enough to browse differently Browse differently Browse It's very british sounding Bows with blouse Sounds german Bows. Yeah, it does the word browser is when you think about it. It's like yeah, it started out making a lot of sense but And there's browsing that is done via browser, but it's yeah, but with e-commerce word anymore. Yeah, you're here to buy You're buying or you're you're not browsing. You're specifically going to destinations Also, how did web become a place you surfed? It's not an ocean it's a web It's a great question. I would assume you'd climb it But there's no real you're surfing you're not originally you were It was weird you were surfing Well, the Netscape navigator kind of gave an oceanic feel to it I well it was lifted from channel surfing So you were surfing the web in the same way you surfed TV. There it is. Okay, there you go Yeah, what else would you say hopping the web? All right, right? Transposing although anytime anyone says surf the web now. I'm like What What decade is this? I uh, I I just get on my web ring and you know Surf the web. Let's just be glad that you always you start with your web ring and and right there I like it series of tubes We can all be we can be a web ring about cartoons Sometimes I'll save sites that I find in my web ring to delicious nice Who ended up with delicious? It got it got bought by like yahoo and then got spun back out as an independent thing and then just It's filling open source projects. It's kind of you know Trundling along I think it was um Name of that. Uh, it was the same company that bought dig They might have bought delicious too. Oh, yeah, eventually Yeah, when you search for delicious now, it's you can go to del dot icio dot us and it's still there Wow That's like I went to what would there no, um You're the man now dog. So Y t t md or whatever was dot com used to be like this super Mimi like Animated gift sound thing and it was like a long time. Did you just call a meme a Mimi? Mimi like it's a little meme-ish. Oh, I see Mimi not actually yeah, not Mimi Yeah I'm glad you said that just to clarify because I don't want anyone thinking I think meme is Is pronounced Mimi. Oh, and the only even if you did do that. I wasn't trying to make fun of you It's just every once in a while someone will say that and I'm like you've only read that word You've never actually heard anyone say that like that's amazing. So Delicious was acquired by pin board in june of last year And was shut down on june 15th Becoming read only and users were encouraged to subscribe to the pin board service Yeah Pin board I think I used it as a iPad up for a while. I am Oh, yeah, I remember pin board Speaking of words, who is using flip board anymore? People are I'm not saying no one does. I'm just one. Oh, I know I don't know who they are either because I haven't used it. I love it I loved it. But then when I stopped using my iPad on a daily basis It wasn't the same on my phone. I didn't like that. We used to use it for sort and laser and my problem was the browser extension stopped working Oh, right Oh, let's didn't twitter twitter changed something in their api. So your twitter the way you would see twitter stuff changed or something I couldn't I it was probably a personal issue not not a not a widespread problem, but My my bookmarks, uh, no longer No longer worked. So I just stopped using it Hmm I couldn't add things to flip board So I don't flip board they should use that shot of Oh, billy joel and that you can't stop the fire already flips over the table when they mentioned the color That's a great idea Flip didn't start the fire. I didn't start the fire. You can stop it It didn't stop. Yeah, we haven't figured that one out yet But you didn't stop the fire. You're a fire department and it is your job Too close too close. You'll get flagged Mom's rendition of we didn't start just a dead ringer for billy joel I'm gonna yeah the content ID won't be able to tell the difference That was one of those songs where and I know there's billy joel fans out there and he's wonderful But it was one of those songs where I'm like, okay, it's clever. He said a lot of words Like, you know, like after you like listen to it once, you're like, I'm exhausted. I'm done. I don't want to That's fantastic. I get it. He said a lot of words So many historical references quickly, that's great. It starts with an earthquake birds and chains and aeroplanes Is not afraid Lots of words. Okay. I guess that's a similar one, but I like that song It's because it reminds you of your college years It reminds me of someone Saying they get way too brave uh during karaoke and they're like, I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it. It's the end of the world and then they like can't keep up and it's a mess That's the same reason why everyone who's drunk wants to do bohemian rhapsody and it's all just terrible Literally the worst karaoke song ever Although never ends great for the people It's never good for the audience. In other words, you can't be sober No, I've I've actually done it sober because we were at someone's house And it was just the four of us and there was no audience. There was no shame. Yeah, exactly Yeah, I yeah, I mean if you're in the right mood say anything. It's yeah, it's just one of those songs I'm like, oh, okay. Always there's always that guy who has to do it and it's going to take forever. Yep And that guy's name when you see a todo song in the lineup and you know who it is We got a great email from um This wasn't necessarily uh Perfect for the show but but Justin wrote in and said that he now blames me because Africa by todo never really used to hear it He's like that was a song for a really long time ago and now he's like, I'm in the grocery store They're playing africa. I'm uh, what do you say? I've turned on the radio in the car They're playing africa on twitter someone. I follow change their name to I bless the reins down in castamere Which I don't think it um, the range of castamere is the uh, lannister song. That's what oh god I got it. Yeah went to a guitar shop last night playing africa He says I commented by it's to a clerk and he said it's todo day, man Nothing but todo all day long. Wow. I've never looked when you started Just by the power of Gestion you Hey, so can you do me a favor sarah and just say Yeah, let's just send roger ten million dollars And hopefully that'll just happen. No snowball Oh, I'm like, are we recording something? I don't get it. Oh, yes, please Whatever I say is like slightly off. So it's I'm powerful, but I have to You know I'll take it What if I say make sure that roger wins that five-dollar lottery Scratcher, I win five-dollar lottery scratchers all the time I mean, how many lotto scratchers are you buying? Like daily or no, not daily monthly. It's a monthly thing. It's like it's like maybe eight or ten a month scratchers We're gonna dig in a little more with roger scratcher addiction For those on the patreon feed and thank you video folks for hanging out and have a lovely rest of your day Good day internet. No, no, no, we're not we're not finishing. Good day internet yet. Oh, I'm sorry. God. I always do that. 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