 I think you got us on the screen you need to pull us out Good Sunday evening everyone. Thanks for joining us. We're starting on time. It looks like for once I appreciate that we got Adam in here from HVAC overtime. Thanks for coming in Adam. How are you doing tonight, buddy? Excellent excellent good Thanksgiving, you know, how about you? We enjoyed setting a home and ate a dinner that she made which she doesn't usually cook So I actually ate well I've gained multiple pounds this week and probably won't lose them again, which is you know, whatever and Otherwise it's been fairly decent. I can't complain didn't get to see no family or anything like that, but It is what it is nowadays. I think so our guests out there in the chat what's going on Hamilton and Elmondo and we just got That's all it's saying anything you guys don't be afraid to say hi out there I know we got 22 of you lurking out there Don't be afraid to say hi. I want to go over to go over some of the video stuff I did like three of them this week did one on Wednesday Thursday and today so It was kind of a busy thing. I know I Think there's a misconception on the people that don't usually watch us on the Live show because they don't really know who Laura is or what her role is or anything like that I think I'm just here I think people thought she was a service person and that I was making a big deal that hey you know Look at this. She knows how to drill a hole and put put a Put a lot UV light in you know and that wasn't the point if you you know my my cool crew that comes in here on You know my Sunday evenings and stuff you guys are the awesome ones that would understand that So I think all you guys got the hint and then enjoyed it and as usual I got good response from my over time Facebook page post and stuff so I Think it went really well. He's gonna talk about that and stuff. So What'd you do you do anything with the family or you just set it home or would you do Adam? Yeah, I didn't do much this weekend The only thing I did that was productive. I went to my aunt's house and measured her kitchen so I could help her Lay out new cabinets. That was a new cabinet your work. I Don't know but she has nobody I have like a friend of mine who can get a really good deal on cabinets, but Yeah, we need to measure them up. So that's what I was doing. I'm good with the tape measure I'm surprised the cabinet people though would would want you to do it though A lot of them want to blame it all on or they'd blame it all on you if things ain't perfect No, we're it's like a whole We're farming everything out. I have a friend that worked for like a really high-end Cabinet design place in the merchandise mart in Chicago. She's designing it So I measured the kitchen measured the windows where all the you know the piping everything comes up She's designing it. We're sending them out ordering cabinets and then we're having a carpenter install it. So, okay What kind of doing some fancy countertops to are you? Probably she might do I don't know probably courts or granted or something. I don't know Better than what we got. I just got the old-fashioned. I don't know some sort of laminate Whatever you want to call it the stuff that's been around forever The poor people stuff But you know So there we're getting a few more people awesome now. We got some more new ones out there. Hey rich. What's going on? Serve info Ryan Rich, what else we got? I got you guys up on the main screen So I don't have to complain as much about it being down below. So we fixed that Yep. Hey, how's going Hamilton not a whole lot man. Just chilling out doing our thing hoot hoot so El mano so You guys like the videos you get to see them they suck we suck everything sucks So how's things go out there for you guys? Don't forget to unmute yourself there Gettner Commander it's Rihanna. That's his name. You but you pronounced it incorrectly where? Well, it's so tiny, you know, it's still small I can barely see the IE Oh in so Yeah, whatever. So sorry, man, my brother your steam video Mm-hmm. It was pretty cool. I I'll be honest with you. I don't really understand all the electronics in the I was never trained on the fire I So like all the other You know secondary controls limits that that's pretty simple, but like the fire itself That's like the intimidating part for me. You know what I mean, you know And I'm learning on it to myself. We got that one the fire I and the what's the other one? Actually fire. I I think is the red one. That's the honey. Well, so the honey. Well God what the heck is that one called I forget The honey well one's the one I see the most I have a another boiler that uses the true fire I which is the red module and That steam boiler there actually even steam that one's hot water boiler and that one I'm not as well with I mean I'm not great at either one of them but like that valve on that machine I replaced that last year and I tore that valve apart because I was curious what was inside it everybody talks about if you have read What looks like brake fluid, which is like a hydraulic fluid inside that valve you need to replace that valve because it's leaking I didn't realize that you know inside that valve it literally has like a little pump and it pumps up pressure and drives that valve open and Basically Soon as that with thing would like fail to detect flame I guess it can close in less than a half a second or something crazy. It's like super fast shutting and stuff and so Basically, that's that's supposedly why that everything on that system is super expensive that controller. I think it's like I don't know 700 to 900 bucks or something stupid. I mean it's just crazy money, so But I bought that little controller that I've got I got that thing that picks up on eBay and All it does is tell you the previous codes how many hours ago it was and What mode it's in far as like it's purging pilot or whatever and then in any codes that might have but it's not very in-depth You got to figure that that controller like goes back to the Mid-mid 90s I think at least because I know like the one I was working on it's from 98 and that one there I think somewhere in that ballpark the hours on it's like over what the thing can handle It's like, you know 99999 all the way across so You have some comments in the chat like what so ad asked He was wondering if the street if the steam level switch could be turned when ad using other unused double-pole contacts Caught some of that. I think that was ad did okay. Yeah, cuz he said that earlier You know, I did not check the other contact to see whether it was a normally open or normally closed I know that one there was a normally closed circuit I would assume the other one was probably a normally open but If you flipped it upside down and it would all be dependent on whether the screws matched up I've never tried it, but it's probably everything if I look go back look through the video I would say it probably could be Even if not, I mean like I was mentioned and I don't remember maybe it didn't post because I know I was replying to you And I think I might have forgot to hit send You know as well as me if you're electronic guru that you just wire your Relay on there and just reverse it so that you know, it's powered open a contact and it would close But I get really about possibly changing any safety controls if there's something wrong with I rather have it fail And not run than to run and blow up and kill somebody and I get sued for bypassing a safety control or fooling with a safety control and change the The safety factor and all that stuff that kind of scares me After seeing some of the things those little bombs can make happen So I suspect it's possibility and you know that that controller was on the right hand side I mean in theory that's also low water and it's actually higher up So it kind of shuts off and makes things happen before the other one does but It was the way that boiler was the biggest problem with that boiler. It was so oversized This is a building that's no longer being used for its full capacity They used to heat a swimming pool a large swimming pool and that's not being used There was all kinds of other areas that had Exercise stuff and things like that. It was huge building gymnasium style big stuff and they are not using any of that That space anymore, so the boilers are just massively oversized now And they're just using the building for housing and so now a lot of that stuff's been disconnected It's not used so what I have and this mild temperatures that we're having you know here And you know in these last few months which anybody watching this later, you know now It's just the end of November But that was probably about two months ago that I did that video I wasn't even going to use it, but I figured you know it had a lot of footage there might as well But what ended up happening was I ended up going back multiple times and it created enough footage for a video But basically when we get these mild temperatures It just doesn't run very long and then it shut short cycles back and forth back and forth And so what we usually would do is leave that boiler in low fire only and we literally would unhook the power because the way that things wired originally The high pressure switch would be normally closed until it gets so high And then it opens that up and the valve will drop to low fire And it would coast out and try to run non-stop that way But even with that undone that boiler was still short cycling even with it just running and low So at the end there and I cut a lot of stuff out So I apologize for that but on that video I basically I just started cutting this cutting that before I knew it was like that didn't make sense when I left that in and I just Started cutting more and more and so I ended up leaving out why I did the time delay It left out a lot of different things that I was trying to do and one of the reasons for cutting out the delay or adding The delay was just kind of I'm trying to keep the cost down because They didn't want to put a lot of money in the building and stuff like that just because of other Circumstances I can't really go into But basically I was looking for a cheap alternative to make it more reliable to make my job easier So I don't have to go back and it still gives them the heat that they need and what I was told The previous person used to work on it. That's no longer here Basically said he had problems with it creating a lot of hammering and knocking and stuff like that And so not to run it in the high fire unless you know, we were super cold out you know, you know at least 30s or colder, you know staying below it for long durations of time and And So that's why I put that delay on there So I didn't have to fool with it otherwise I'd have preferred to have an outdoor stat on there or something like that and you know That tech mark controller did not have really any other fancy features. I mean it does have an outdoor sensor But thank you JD. Yeah, thanks. Appreciate that man. Awesome. Thank you so much. Look. He said you're number one Thanks, man. I appreciate you're awesome to you didn't forget. Thank you is the bomb diggity. He's the Jack Daniels I pulled up the tech mark control after watching your video and Like every other tech mark controls. It's awesome to our control. Is it really that expensive? Yep See there was another company that took care of all this stuff before us and We inherited all this stuff not too horribly long ago. Nobody else wanted to take on any of it So guess who? Hey, we got an awesome project for you, Rick. Do you want to do this and here you go Here's this one and another building that's got all kinds of issues and under controls work I've had it. So that's what I end up taking on that. That's actually the better building. So yeah, so Ricky Hertz and a Senate Dakota, Massachusetts is commercial steam boilers need to have a manual reset low-water cutoff And I guess he was making the one you were servicing the one you were servicing is usually only used in residential boilers. I Know that big one beside it has a manual reset limit. I mean, it's got two Low waters just like that one does it has an upper float and I don't know exactly It's been forever since I've been through a steam class And it was I think the steam class was even an oil steam class and we're talking This would have been at least 21 years ago that I've been through this class because we really don't do a lot of steam There's just not a lot around here. You got to remember. I'm just in Ohio. So it's not, you know, real big here You know, it's awesome heat from what I've been told But you know, it's usually in older buildings more than it is anything. So I am not gonna lie to you I don't know all the ins and outs and I am learning as much as I can about it when we do it But the thing is we just don't do a lot of it. So We run into it a lot at some of the commercial things we do But even the ones that we do that are big industrial stuff a lot of times We let someone else take care of that stuff because that's not our specialty. So when we get into the industrial, you know Five or six of the Cleaver Brooks boilers that are running at 150 pounds or whatever better You know, we don't do them. So, you know, I don't have a big source of people to pull from So a lot of it comes down to happen to do the research and stuff on my own and you know It's nothing like what we got for the resources when it comes to the Refrigeration, I mean we got people that can do it, but it's it's just not our specialty But we don't walk away from anything if we can, you know, if it's worth our wild We'll invest the time and money into it to learn it. So You know, I'm always up for a challenge. It's just long as I can get the information. That's all I'm interested in be safe about it I mean, I won't do nothing. It's gonna get me hurt or anybody else hurt. So So hopefully I had answers at JD along with all the other background of what it was about Did you also have to service all the traps? Joe was asking. Yeah, I ended up doing Also, I went through that's why I ended up tearing apart that steam trap and there's a couple others some other places There's so many things in this building that are hidden and you can't find that I just know the ones that we've had the most issues with and we went through that if you notice the boiler had Those orange stickers. Those are the state stickers. So it's been inspected and all that It's got to get through all that inspection stuff You know, I completely on that boiler there. They don't even want to run chemicals in it, believe it or not So because there's been issues with that. So if that what it'll do that boiler also get a scum on top of it So I've got a drain at least once or twice a year and get that completely drained down and get it back up and go on Otherwise it'll start insulating and creating issues to the point where Start having all kinds of triggers and things like that on safety controls So there's a lot behind it and you know because the you know Certain things that you know, I can't go into super big details and get myself in trouble here That I can't go into a bunch of things about why things are kind of like, you know, the condition they are maybe that's normal It's tired. It's very tired. But you know, what do you do on you know with the boiler? I mean the boiler really ain't at fault. It's all the piping and stuff. I mean piping is so old That you know, if we started cranking more pressure through it things like that We're gonna probably start getting hammering. We're gonna probably have leaks We're gonna have all kinds of other problems and from what I was told from the previous guy He was able to run it and keep it temperature fine with you know a couple pounds It only runs. I think two and a half pounds three pounds something like that. It's all right There was a big house that we installed a boiler on a steam boiler that It was a vapor system and it had a vapor trap and I don't even know what a vapor. I there was like limited You know documentation that I could find on it and I talked to somebody at the supply house So like you don't need any of that there was like a big vapor trap and you could open it up I didn't open it. I was gonna cut it out. You know the guy at the supply house the The tech guy was like, you don't need any of that just cut all that out So I was getting ready to do it. I'm like, I have a weird feeling about this, you know So I called the top guys from while McLean. He's like, don't touch it People take those out and you have nothing but problems. I'm like, all right. I'm leaving it in I haven't even thought about it. I don't even know what it does to be honest with you But I wonder if anyone else here knows what they are, you know, or how they work Yeah, I don't know. Um, I thought about we had a couple resources I was going to bring a guy in from Cincinnati or something like that that he was willing to come down. He Works with like carrier one of our reps or he works for carrier corporation or I should say our rep for carrier and Suppose he was willing to come up and stuff But you know after I drained the boiler once or twice a year and got clean water in there and got rid of that Scum, I really didn't have that many problems with it. It really was pretty reliable. So I know the previous guy he had a lot of issues to the point where it keep him up at night He told me, I mean, he was always worried because they do have my cell phone I'll get a text message it, you know, multiple times in the night and be like, hey, uh, was you here today? It ain't working. So how do you clean it, you know, like I know there's boiler treatment I usually try to put, you know, add boiler treatment every year. I Pull apart. I pull apart all the pigtails I make sure I clean or replace the pigtails if they're really bad I'll pull apart the float and I make sure I thoroughly thoroughly clean inside where the you know I know a lot of guys don't do that Because one reason you need gaskets you have to be the gas gets always go bad, you know, and I ran into that I talked to you about it because normally they're readily available and For whatever reason now they weren't readily available when I pulled one apart, you know, so Well, you've seen that one. Well, you probably don't remember but inside that that controller panel It had a cardboard piece that said keep and that was extra gaskets that I got for the the floats and stuff Last year and I got extra ones and stuff I replaced all the glasses and they were already getting dirty because I mean it's just it's so dirty that big header up There had a plate. It was probably about this big around which, you know, at least 10 inches I took all this big old it was like one inch nut size bolts I may was inching a little bit over an inch and took all those out And then I got up there with a garden hose and flushed all that out and rinsed it back to the boiler and flushed out through the drain I went through the That one was kind of unique to you on the floats and stuff. You'll notice they had Tees in there So I ran my garden hose through that and flushed it as many times as I could when I first got there I mean the drain ball valve was leaking in different spots on the threads and You know, it's just it was crazy had to go through and just clean so many things up and right now It's not in bad shape compared to what it was before but it it's better than what it was by far I mean, it was it was definitely kind of Cruddy, I mean I when you don't know where anything's at that because last year was my first year with that thing And it wasn't too bad and then there are other building this place has has got quite a few issues too But it's more hot water boiler and now when there's got multiple issues There's some comments here go for it. So here's one Terry asks is an rpz backflow used as a prv and plumbing. I think not But what do you think? I have no idea what any of that means? Adam you have a clue. I Think an rpz is not the same thing like an rpz Like a backflow for a boiler is not the same as an rpz There's a talking about a like a backflow preventer from the city type thing Right and the pressure do say I mean it does the same thing But I think an rpz is a little bit. Oh, is that what we're talking about pressure-reducing valve I hate abbreviations if you only knew a plumber. Yeah, and my dad's My dad is a master plumber. I could always pull him up on that He's got all the state licenses and shit Technically it you know from what I know they're technically three different things a pressure-reducing valve a regular boiler backflow and Rpz are three different items. Yeah, she put just a regular check valve on them But that ain't gonna make the half the city happy They want to see that true three port freaking backflow preventer that they want to screw you every year for a hundred bucks Or whatever they charge to come certify it that you might need a rpz and a commercial boiler I'm not sure by code. I don't work on a lot of commercial stuff But I know like, you know, you can usually get the honey well or whatever the the little backflow, you know Rpz big Yeah, that then that's the one I've always seen it's golden color and it's got the little disc three different test ports on it And they make sure it doesn't leak from one to the other or whatever Pepsi has the eight ball a question Let's see what it says. That's funny He said eight ball. How frequent do you see boilers? And The eight ball is not having it. So there's that So another question was And I don't this one's from David. I don't know if this is in Related to boilers or not, but he said he has 10 small evaps one Condenser and one or two are calling. Why is the suction so low? I don't think that's boiler related and is it is it me because I know Ricky Hertz is in here, too Make sure you put it in caps. So I know that it is for us because that that way I know for certain that you guys aren't Just conversating between each other, but I'm assuming here 10s if apps 10 small evaps one condenser and one or two are calling Why is the suction lower? I Would want to know are they all the same temperature far as they're all operating at medium or low temperature Are they running it multiple different ones? Are we talking refrigeration? I'm assuming because I doubt it select air conditioning Need more information Those are probably one of those ones that are like Email questions because that sounds like something that could go on forever. So email me ma'am HVAC survival at Gmail, I'd be more than happy to go through whatever I can with you on that. Oh, I mean see mommy Let's see oh The guys look like there's a couple guys that have some busy weeks coming up They've got some installs to do Detecting Arizona. He said he just changed filters at an Airbnb that had hadn't had new filters since the unit was installed Which was two years ago. They're optional. Just take them out. You just take them out like what your sister did She didn't have filtering for a week. Yeah, I was gonna record it and she's like, no, you can't do it My sister called me. She was down in Columbus, Ohio, and she's like hey, I have no heat And it was texting me and I'm like screw this. Let's do FaceTime like messenger or whatever So I said go to your furnace since she pulls it up. It's a Bryant. I'm like, okay What's going on? I said, you know, it's so easy to do it. I'm like wondering it. Could we make money? doing this over the phone With a video There's a website. I can't remember what it's called, but there's a website where you go like message a professional I See that just answer. I think it's called just answer And if you're happy with the answer if they fix it, you'll say this question is worth $20 to me So they put down the price for it and then you accept it and take the question if you're willing to do it But if they're not competent enough to figure it out like with the your answer So they won't accept your answer as long as they accept your answer you get paid. Oh Yeah Yeah What I'm thinking about doing and I've been meaning to do it for a while and I would only do this for family anyway, but Start recording the most common maintenance things that you do checking an igniter cleaning the condensate trap checking the burners cleaning a pilot relight a pilot change a thermal couple Check, you know Where where some of the components are at but I put them all private links and do it for family because it never fails I get calls from people that are out of the area like she's in Columbus. That's an hour and a half almost two You know hour and three-quarters away But I could have been like here go to this video and here's how you change clean the condensate trap Which is all she needed to do and believe it or not She got out a pair of channel locks of all things got the clamps off yanked it out blew it all out And it had crud in the condensate trap and changed it and boom It was funny when you told her you blow on that you're she's like what do you what I said blow on it Don't suck on it. I said freakin put your lips up there and blow through it wipe them off when you're done I don't be don't be too prissy here you little wimp. So and she got it. It worked. So Those traps get pretty nasty too. They do I clean those on every service between that check resistance and check heat exchanger I mean that's just my my common thing and clean flame sensor. That's my routine for every freakin residential. I do Just the problem is though and certain traps you can't take them apart You could I do on those is you know that rubber hose that carriers got that's freakin dangling off the right-hand side I'll steal that thing and I will take the little short piece of rubber And I will basically make me a little plug for it and I will keep that extra piece of my truck And so if I can't get it out like that I'll either pull it out and I'll hook that hose on there and blow through it with my mouth and blow with The crap through which ain't great, but it's better than nothing. I mean you take a swig of water and blow it through It's generic, but it'll work. Yeah, or you can take your gallow gun put your finger over the other port put it on that one You know and then do it to the other side and then do your thing. So I mean I Have some half baked ways of doing things if I have no other options My feeling is if they're the dummies that did it like that then I'm just gonna make it work It's not perfect Has a design where it's a gluten trap dream as a design where it's a gluten trap and carrier also as a design where it's an optional Gluten trap it doesn't have to be you know, I mean are we talking about the old reams that had that little wimpy clear Oh god, I hated those they always broke Yep Need a sneeze I Had mine needed but I didn't get hers at the same time There's some more questions here guys someone wants to know What is? the best Co Detector We taught see a time assuming he's talking about a combustion analyzer like yeah So odd west sees once in a who makes a good reliable co-detector. I Go with back rack. I mean they were one of the first ones that came out with this stuff long back in the day I have a little crappy test though that I don't really trust all that much But like if I'm really wanting to check it I pull out my back rack combustion analyzer and check CO debt You know I come from the old days when we had the fuel oil one that you sit there went one two three And you can get your CO and all that crap from the old that red liquid. I forget what it was called But you were all when you're measuring wet bulb you had your old I came out though when I started the field they had electronic ones The sling psychrometer was kind of going away when I came into it. So I mean I started 95 96 95 If you had like a tech working for you that you wanted to punish him That's good punishment like all right guess what now for the next two weeks you're using a sling psychrometer But you know for me because I grew up on linux. We didn't do super heat We did sub cooling even when you had an orifice we used sub cooling So it wasn't until we started doing more carrier that I actually had to start getting into super heat So we didn't care about super heat because we didn't we never checked it. It wasn't what was required. So It was funny because I think linux was the only one that did sub cooling for orifices, which is really weird So it worked. They also did that funky degrees over Liquid line temperature over degrees of ambient the approach method. I don't know if too many other people did that either Back when linux used to be some good stuff So and as you can see I've got a flinux furnace because that was on the uv light thing So now that we got 65 people here um, so jd made the comment that your um, you're in the Information you provide is priceless. So thank you jd A little pound on rick's back there and he said his friend's dad checks for gas leaks with a match You know I've seen that the first few times and honestly I've done it. It's not safe Um, you could probably get in a lot of trouble if the wrong person sees you doing it And if you happen to hit something that you didn't know was leaking really bad it probably could be bad But in theory, what's the difference between a little dinky leak on a pipe and what is leaking out of a pilot? I mean, but I think if you're experienced You would know the difference between a big gas leak and a tiny little like I could almost smell with my nose you know, I mean like If you're looking at a major leak put the lighter away, you know, yeah, absolutely. That's nuts I mean, I've had times before I had electronic leak detector, which I just got electronic leak to gas leak detector probably back on that for the R290 crap just came out. I never had one. I used soap. I mean that was the only thing I used for gas leak with soap Um, you know, I didn't get a fancy pressure pump a test kit until probably 10 years ago 11 years ago I used to do every other cheater method or homemade pump up system for checking For, you know leaks and houses and and I mean my own little pressure deal and everything but I don't really like the the electronic to be honest with you. I mean, I probably don't have I have a back rack I have the Informant I think it is. Uh, it's okay But I'll be prior to that. I was using I think it's called vizzy glow that like yellow Tube with the diver on the end and now I like the the big blue much better You know, we've always used big blue and I think we might be using a generic version of it Um, because I think there's another one. It's blue. Also. I forget what it's called, but I don't even know anymore if it's big blue or what I'm pretty sure it is So bad instrument tech said he's so old that they cleaned coils with r12 and vacuum pumps were used for big systems true I mean that was Prior to the 90s. I mean they used to just bleed it bleed it through I mean, I've seen it done. It'll work, but it ain't right I mean, it wasn't as bad when it was mineral oil But when we started getting to this polyester oil and you get all the extra moisture in there And it starts turning that oil into an acid and stuff and you eat off your windings and fry the compressor That you know, none of this crap happens right away But the problem is you're screwing your customer. I mean, so If you don't care then It's crazy with mineral oil because I've had multiple customers that have old sears units where they bought them from sears They installed them themselves old timers like these old 80 year old guys like I installed the system myself I said, what kind of vacuum pump did you use and they're like that? What's a vacuum pump? They had pre-charged line sets though. I think back then too though screw together That's true. Yeah, I think spirits had them. I know train had them I hate them. Luxor always had them heck freaking Manets walk still uses them and we use them. Heck freaking Stolting ice cream machines has got them. I hate them I don't like that stupid thing that that that little fitting was made Her dad actually worked at the factory that made them Eric whip was who originally made those so now they turned into eaten or whatever, but Those things I mean one-time use you couldn't reuse them people don't hook them and freaking never seal again I think that's where I got the uh, the terminology from my dad You know back when he was working from, you know trained in the 70s Um when we were working on a unit where after we're pulling a vacuum He's like, all right, let's let's go punch the unit And I think the term punch a unit is with the pre-charged line sets because you were punching the line set You know, I mean like you're charging the line set and that would make sense I I still use it to this day. I'm gonna go punch it even though you're not really punched Or anything, you know Yeah, a pump and dump is what we usually would call it Shannon, I love snoop man. Uh before I left my previous company. We started a uh Where uh or like a like an ace hardware or whatever you want to call it at the shop And that was available for the first time and I found some freaking leaks that big blue did not find that snoop did And that was some crazy crap So here's a good question for both of you since you guys both do boilers Pepsi wants to know what is the most common problem with boilers that you run into Water's theme I would say probably more with water for me. It's expansion tanks bleeders and fill valves Exactly, I mean it just never failed. It's always that theme is usually lack of maintenance 100 Do you feel like people just see it as oh, it's just old technology and nothing ever goes wrong with it So they just don't maintain it like they should I think they just think it's working. So why should I screw with it? I'll make it worse Yeah, I mean if you have like one of those old mcdonald miller blowdown valves like you have to exercise Even in the summer you have to exercise the float inside of there or the all the crud will get it to stick you know what I mean, so Um, I don't think people realize how temperamental it is and a lot of times I've run, you know new customers I go to a steam Boiler where you know techs have been there and they just bring up the pressure And they're running the thing at a super high pressure much higher than it should be running at just because they either have Whatever bad traps bad vents something like that, you know Wow See I I I've only done probably prior to coming here. I probably did maybe two or three different steam systems Maybe four not that many So, I mean, you know and everybody was always scared of them. So it was like everybody's like, oh, that's steam Yeah, you know, you know, and they'd want to walk away from it and stuff like that and you know So that was the mentality I had dealt with for the longest time and it was like, well, okay Well, what's so big about this? Let's figure this out. So I mean really there's only on a steam system Inside of the boiler portion of it. There's like usually only What one moving part which is the float if you have a float and it's not a sensor, right? So like there's realistically, there's no moving parts. It's all There's like switches and Yeah, and it's not like you have to bleed it. I mean, I'm still amazed by how the how it works I mean it goes up and down A vapor state or pressure troll that kind of moves inside of there. It's a little bit mechanical, but um, yeah Yeah, because that one there is all mechanical now that one to the right it has the electronic one And that one though because and I almost wonder if the controls aren't set right on that one because they're it's so high That one will fail out if it gets too much water in it where the other one doesn't care. It just runs and That that big one there that one there. I I've not hardly used that one at all That one kind of scares me a little bit because it's so so freaking big. It's like I don't know. It just it's not needed. You can see off the top of the head. I mean it's got four freaking pipes coming off the top and You know that that I could I guess they used to run both of them at one time and then finally they just found out They didn't need to And I I bet they ran at higher pressures two back before and like I said that guy's got it tuned down between Two and a half three pounds area I've hardly ever seen it in the gauge on there prior to last year. They had like a 30 pounder on there I dropped it down to 15. So now I can at least see it move so That's interesting because I'm not like I don't work on a ton of steam either because steam is kind of like a dying breed In chicago, I'll run in the steam most of the time and it will be in chicago. Otherwise Once in a blue moon, I'll see it on the outside of chicago um, but Reading dan is it I can't I never know how to pronounce his last name is it hula hand Hollow hand or whatever. I don't know. I think I remember that name hula hand wallah hula hand but uh One of the things he said is like if the empire state building could run on less than one pound of steam pretty much any building could less than That's great, and you know when I was searching for a name to name it because I was trying to find what would get the best search Rankings and stuff. I found a bunch of really good sites on it So I'm I subscribed to a couple of them. I'm gonna watch it I mean some of them are like Factory stuff, so I'm gonna watch a few of them see if I can learn something new on any of it Um, so I'm kind of looking forward to that So joe stinson said there's a great steam channel gordon schweezer schweizer He's awesome. That dude is like the steam boiler whisper Yeah, these guys here they were like doing some industrial stuff because that's what I'd like I'd like to maybe go to the cleaver brook school or something like that Problem is like I said, I hate going to school for stuff that I don't get to do very often And then you never get good at it and that's I that's what I eat or you learn it and then you forget it because you don't use it, right? Correct. I mean I've been to chiller school twice Uh three day four day class from carrier themselves And you know I haven't hardly got to work on any but you know And in all of them that we work on usually are special Applications, so it's like well, but you know like I was on call last time You know I just basically asked the guy what temperature do you guys usually run at and the guy knew it And it wasn't even nothing to do with that stuff here. It was a freaking pump wasn't working So I mean for new guys out there man, you know, I got to go through it too Don't over over think it find out how how it normally runs Get the the basis of things and just go at it as Ask the questions and and then think it out and you'll figure it out So for any of those new guys out there, you just got to tear it apart one piece at a time That's what I'm doing Well like my first steam boiler that I worked on It was prior to reading any books or Investigating how steam works. So I kind of thought that was the way it should have been You know, I mean and they were running on a high pressure The water level was off the The feeder valve was not working properly. It was not feeding properly. So it was like overfilled with water in the boiler It was just a mess and I had no clue what was right What was wrong and only after being there for two or three years working another boilers was I like Whoa, everything is screwed up on this thing, you know Yeah, and you know now somebody another guy's got a lot of good boiler stuff as randy las He's right down there in the chat stuff. I mean he's got a crap load of steam boiler So make sure you guys I mean he's got more subscribers than I've got so I mean Make sure you're checking out randy. He's got a crap load of steam boiler stuff way more than I've got They got a lot of those up there in his area up north So the guys in the chat are talking about this 410 a business so wild west asked In your opinion Is 410 a equipment really more efficient or is it just a gimmick and for the most part people are saying it's just a gimmick but um Randy last did say that from what he hears 410 a dehumidifies better thoughts I don't think it was anything as much to do with efficiency as they needed an alternative to the epa issue But I mean if you think about it all this compression ratio crap that everyone talks about I mean how's the compression ratio of it versus r22? I haven't done the math, but I'm I mean you would think it would almost be less efficient in a way because it has to has to run at a higher pressure, right? yeah I I've never have understood that you ever notice some people are like well old r12 Our car always did better than these new 134a ones, you know And I'll get the propane No, this is 134a versus I know I'm just being said but someone else made comments about how everybody's switching These supermarkets are switching moving to co2 and propane Well, the propane is more efficient far as the little little units. I mean it uses less refrigerant The condensers are smaller. So you're saving money on materials for making it The compressors are smaller. It's using smaller charge. So I mean it truly is more efficient But for the supermarket thing, I mean the co2 thing I I don't know if they're 100 percent certain Whether that co2 is gonna be the way to go or if they're gonna come up with something else I we don't have any new supermarkets going in where I'm at The only thing that you would even come close to a new one would be maybe like a walmart or something but You know most of the supermarkets I work on are old. I mean these things are 30 plus years old That's why if I ever show any of it you'll you'll laugh because the stuff is just so freaking old You just laugh It's such bad condition stuff You know, it's I have a I have an old car from 1967 and it had r12 in it And uh, I was like all about converting it to 134 and I still can't it's still not working right I don't really understand the whole system of it um I can't wrap my mind around it, but then I was talking to like an old timer that used to work on them And specialized in mopar, uh, you know, uh automotive hvac And he said they used to get complaints all the time with the old r12 systems that in certain situations It would actually shoot frost out of the vents Because it's so cold the air coming out and I'm like, yeah, I'm like Definitely not doing that right now. Is it a chrysler you said? It's uh, uh, Plymouth. Yeah So I know because I did automotive like when I first started I did a lot of conversions from 12 to 34a was kind of a half ass conversion I would dump the um Pag oil or yeah, it was Pag. I think it was it was in a can from auto zone I dumped the the canned oil and on top of it and then I would pull a vac on it And then charge it with 134a 80 of the charge and add the little Things and eventually at the end I didn't even add those I just wrote it on it and the crap usually worked fine But on some of the mopard cat chrysler stuff, they actually got a little more elaborate They actually had txvs or thermal expansion valves of sorts whereas You know the chevys just were generic freaking fixed orifices and So, I mean they were a little more elaborate. I wonder, you know, if that's maybe something there's a txv on it And I the guy I remember him saying something like There's something goofy with the pressures and sometimes they could actually run almost into a vacuum depending on the situation Which I didn't understand any of that and like I was I googling online because I was asking another mechanic I'm like if it has a txv The guy who did the conversion. I'm like, what is the is there a set sub coolant? What's the sub coolant? It's supposed to be like they don't do that What? They don't do that If you could just tell me the sub coolant I can figure this shit out myself. I don't need to tell you people Wait man, it's all about the weight and and I actually had the I don't know It was like a I don't know how many hundreds of dollars those mechanics pay for it but it was from my I had a Chevy truck and it was the mechanics manual and It literally had some charts in there on the refrigerant charge far as like, you know What the pressures would typically be but every one of them was pulled. I I always pulled the charge weighted in I have tried adding a little bit here and there My my my way of doing any cars pull it out weigh it in I don't even fool with it because you never know that That's why I'm like that a lot of times on reaching coolers and stuff. I just yank the charge I mean talking 10 ounces or and ham said that in his when he was working in his automotive days He said sub cooling was never mentioned for super heat. There ain't much you can do with it Yeah, that that's just not normal. How do you notice a bad? Expansion valve then if you if you can't measure subcooler super heat How do you diagnose these parts if they're failing or not? I bet you they were going off pressures. I mean For example, Stolting ice cream machines They do not put anything in there about subcooling super heat the guy. I that's my tech guy that helps me when I have issues He's like dude. Don't talk that crap to me. I don't want to hear that crap. He goes I want to know what your pressure is when you shut off. I'm like dude really You know, he don't even he knows it kind of but he goes that's not what we look at But you know, it's just like they don't do that They they a lot of times on like say ice cream machines. They're They're not expansion valves. They're Automatic expansion valves a xv or Yeah automatic expansion valves not a thermal expansion valve. So you literally set the pressure differential on the valve and it's fixed and it maintains Whatever head pressure or actually on that one there. I think it's based on suction pressure If I remember right and yeah, it was on suction pressure I believe and it just maintains that and and those guys don't know nothing about super heat subcooling It doesn't tell you what to check it or any of that stuff. But yeah You know, I had a I was calling tech support out of Mitsubishi unit I was working on that we did not install and that was one of the things they asked me Turn off the unit and tell me what the standing pressure is. Yeah And I was they're crazy Now you'll talk to some of them. They'll be like, yeah, we don't we don't write We don't publish any super heat subcooling none of that stuff But then I got one guy I beat him down because I'll just nag you until you give me the information I want And you know, I'll be like, come on man. Let's get real here. What what and he's like, yeah, you can check super heat subcooling Really? Yeah, force it into full speed, you know, blah, blah, blah You get somewhere between eight and 10. I'm like, all right I'll keep that always like that's my question. Is it always like what's the Because there's such a big differential in subcooling on like Regular split systems, right? You might have nine degrees. You might have 16 degrees. So like where do you go? You know, where would you set it? I think the key is making sure and grant it guys make sure you do it the way the manufacturer says it says to do it but I mean they say pull it out weigh it in but The key is making sure that things at full capacity when they're checking it And then also it's going to come down to is it running one head or multiple heads Because that what screws you is that dang compressor slows down speeds up Compensates for low charge and all this other stuff and it'll throw you for a loop And that's what's going to screw you the same thing with the freaking ice cream ice machine I mean, you know, it's the same deal. I mean it'll it'll play games with you too Because I mean charge for up to so many feet a line set and it can go get away with less than a certain amount of line set I just think it's kind of I put one of the guys. I don't know if I said this the other day, but I put one of the guys on like I kind of railed them On the in the Fujitsu. I can't remember their class. They're like advanced residential class or whatever, but I put them under the gun But they were saying like, you know, if you have anything under 15 foot a line set Or if you have 15 foot a line set to whatever it is 35 foot a line set, you're good on charge But if you're at 36 foot You need to Weigh it in and it's got to be exact for the ounce. You need to get an accurate scale and everything else. I was like I'm kind of calling bullshit on this And they're probably so sick of people doing things half baked that they're probably pushing that just so that you'll try to follow along I get it. But like and like I was arguing with them in class, you know, I'm like, well, tell me why the The heat pump or the condenser tell me why it could handle all this extra refrigerant If it's 15 foot of lines But when you're at 35 foot or 36 foot, you can't handle any extra refrigerant because if they want, I just charge an extra five feet of lines Who cares, you know Yeah, and they were telling me that it had a receiver on it because I've got video And I've debated whether or not to use it because I never got nothing accomplished on this this Mitsubishi I mean, it's a disaster. I mean I got into a fight with Mitsubishi. They hung up on me I mean, I I ended up talking to Ralph about it. I talked to multiple different people I mean, I raised holy hell until finally somebody took care of the situation And eventually they just ripped the dang thing out and gave him a brand new one that went through I went through hell to get this freaking done people went without heat for 30 freaking days And uh, they play games with me and everything else and finally I got it replaced but You know, I changed the compressor did it exactly by the book They played all their little games The board was acting stupid to have me change all the boards that didn't get it And you know, I've got a video on on basically Mitsubishi stuff that I could show but it's like It's spotty and I've probably lost most of the footage by now But I was so ticked when I had all these issues with it But yeah, a little sidetracked there. I don't know. Mitsubishi just came up and I went nuts. Yeah The guys in the comments were talking about brazing. Yep and so Adam What are your thoughts on me learning how to braise? I think you could do it. I mean, um, I don't think it's a It's really not that hard. It's basically like Paying attention to what somebody tells you, you know, if rick's teaching you how to do it Just listen to him because it's it's a you have to get the feel for it You gotta listen to rick. Yeah, right Well, I you know, I did make a comment on your video from the other day about how you're using the snips And you're like these greens are useless and then I saw you never Don't close the snips all the way. That's how you get fish hooks And I told her that when she was doing it and she but so my she's really weak in her hands But you have to realize I my hand strength is really bad and the whole left side of my body Doesn't function. Well anyways, um, like I can't feel sensation the same way and I my left side is just stupid It that's just that side of my brain is messed up more So it was harder for me to use my left hand That's why like when I'm cutting like you see me using two hands because I'm using all little strength I have left in my hands just to make those cuts If it was really difficult and then that and putting the screws in was like the hardest for me And that's why I had to say something to one of the guys because like like I was mentioned earlier Now that we got more people here the guys like well, you know What's so big about this and it's like dude if you watch the live stream You'd know what the whole story is behind her because I mean You know we did that show with gill far as the kiari, which is something that his wife's got which is a brain malformation She's had brain surgery I mean, you know, she's went through a crap load of issues and things like that So they even be able to be on the little step stool and stuff and not fall off and that's huge for me Yeah, I mean the stuff they they have no clue You know first of all it was meant to be funny It wasn't supposed to be an instructional video on hey, bob and mary at home here. You can install your own freaking UV filter here I mean, you know my whole thing was as hell Yeah, she could grab a four inch hole saw and freaking drill a hole in there and that would have been the easiest freaking thing You know and then just punched it right through but You know, it's like that wasn't the point It was meant to be funny just so they could do it and the ones that don't know anything about her and stuff Don't realize, you know, she's not in the field. She's not a rocky. She don't have a freaking glue She's just following instructions and it was so simple that you know, all she had to do is follow it and get it done And it was to be funny and and complain along the way and and then that was funny. Who the heck installed this? This looks like crap, you know blah blah blah. I'm like whatever, you know, I'm pretty particular about the way I did stuff I'm not an installer, but my duck works square. My stuff's right. I mean My you know, I'm surprised nobody's asked about my trifuel. I mean some people are like, oh, I got dual fuel I have trifuel. I have electric I have heat pump and I have a gas 90 plus furnace So and if you noticed that there were some wires down there That was my little toggle switch that, you know, if I wasn't home, she could flip it You know, it was set up so that if I ran the heat pump and the electric strips would run until You know, the heat pump couldn't keep up and in addition to it or if I if the LP was cheaper It was built to go for the the 90 plus, you know and just run that when it got colder But you know, I'm not using that right now and when I had it actually in use and it was powered up I said, you know that thing was all boxed in to where people only get shocked. Plus, it's just me and her now There's no kids here to get into it and and all the breakers are off on it So one guy's like, well, you got that all hacked in there. You're gonna shut down a whole city and it's like, dude You know, I'm waiting for people to ask about it. It's like nothing fancy It's crap. I dug out of the trash and I put it in above my furnace and as far as the Stuff always happens when you're not home I'm home by myself and it's like, well, now what in the reason why that light was in the wrong spot Or in the spot that it was in is because I had to raise the strips higher because I wanted the light underneath the heat Because heat rises. I didn't want to bake my bulb So I repositioned that to the only place it was available, which was on the front or the back But the back had a takeoff on it and that was going to Limit me down on the the room and I'm kind of weird about things being centered and height and stuff and making Look at looking looking right. So that's why we put I put it in the front originally Which wasn't bad and you know and it's like when you know how to use snips You know how to cut and make the turn at the same time as you're going I mean, even though I'm not an installer. I can do a fairly decent install so I mean, I just don't like doing it and you know, but That the people that didn't get that and it might be watching it now That was the reason why we did the video was for just kind of fun and giggles So if there's anybody out there that ends up watching it, they don't usually watch here That was the reasoning for it. So Then we had the electrical electrocution video that I did on Wednesday, that was a lot of fun Your electrocution one. Yeah You know and what's bad is I didn't go into a lot of details I mean the place was a school, you know, and it was a older gentleman that you know I'm surprised still working guy just had both his knees replaced And I would guess he's got to be in his mid to late 60s If that guy would have got nailed with the one leg of 460, which I didn't measure it I'm hoping it was 270, but I'm thinking You know, I called it wrong because I got thinking 460 divided in half And I'm thinking maybe not even been 270 But I mentioned it multiple times in the video and it's too late by that point But you know Luckily, I don't know how it didn't short out to ground and get an arc flash of some sort It was on a 20 amp circuit, but I literally yanked the prongs off. They were f F Terminals I pulled them straight down with my Linesman's stripper linens And started to pull it out and rotating that romex connector And at no point did it short to freaking anything and I'm setting her on a rubber roof But when I hit it, I hit it with the back side of my finger and I'm like, ah, son of a, you know, and I was like, you got it. What the heck's going on here? And then that's when I checked it out and it was sure as crap, you know I mean it was a simple video. He had a bad freaking Break the breaker wasn't even bad some idiot lost the freaking set screw And just decided to go around it. You said you didn't see that video, Adam I didn't watch it one now You're frozen again. There you are. You're moving. Yeah, all it was was it was a johnson unit up on the roof and basically they had a burning smell and It was at a school. It had a a controller system on a building automation And I got there and I have only done work. Maybe I don't know I don't think I've even done up there. So I'm not familiar with the place much at all And basically He goes, yeah, I got turned off. I'll turn it on for you. I go up there. I look at it and I start checking He goes it making a humming noise or something And uh And I'm like it ended up being a motor bad and the bearings are so badly shot on this thing But yeah, it just uh, is that the molded case switch one someone asked Molded K what molded case switch one? I don't remember there being mold in it Or like it was molded though you think oh, yeah, it had a somebody called a service switch I don't know if they were wiring the fan to run non-stop or what it was It was starting to rain and all my equipment was up on the roof And I didn't want it all wet and getting rusted and stuff. So I kind of hurried it up And so I knew we needed to order the the motor because it's three phase and 460 at that so I knew we weren't gonna have it What's your thought on zoom lock It has its place, but it's too expensive for us to Use it. I don't I don't what is it? Is it like a thread locker? It's it's like a compression fitting Oh, we use the plumbing ones, but we don't use it for the shark bite No, but they are coming out with a shark bite style refrigeration fitting Yeah, I don't know if I'd trust it You gotta remember we the guys I work with are die-hard refrigeration guys and they ain't gonna go with that pansy type stuff I mean there's times where it'd be great, but The machine is like I think what 1300 bucks or something like that 13 or 1600 bucks adam I don't know. I don't have zoom lock. I've borrowed it and I've used it, but I don't have it It's super expensive I mean, it's got its place and if you're like in a nursing home where you gotta have a Uh a permit for when you do a hot work and you gotta have somebody stand there and watch and all this other crap That the state requires then yeah, it might be a good idea to have it So what's an alternative that you could use instead of zoom lock? Why do you need to use it at all? I mean we survived this long without it I'm just asking because you know, I don't use I don't use you asking this or somebody else asking it Well, he was asking a guy named Jason was asking about it. I personally don't use zoom lock and labor and delivery But that's just me. Yeah There was a mark in or something weird that made some funky fitting, but they had a lot of issues with it You need to either uh What are you gonna use? You know, you you have to if you're in a nursing home or something to use oxygen or something else that it's explosive You need to shut it down and it's gonna be a big ordeal or you zoom lock Or Do you remember from a few years ago? I don't know they still make it I would never use it. They tried to sell it to me, but I would never I wouldn't even try it I think they gave it to me to try out. Do you remember that little red vial? Oh god. Yeah, you put the you sand it up and put the red liquid on it and glue it together Glue. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I seen that at our supply house many years ago and I'm like, uh Yeah Um, we can't get guys to even use you know when they're soldering back in the day when we use staberide 8 and stuff We couldn't even get them to freaking properly sand it and put the right flux on it let alone for can get them to glue it right So joe shear Wants me to ask you what the led lights for on your thermostat wires Oh On that there. I'm cheap. I put a yeah, I know something now I put little sensors on w2 and uh, w well w1 and w2 So that I knew if my auxiliary heat was running so what I had I've got the heat pump running obviously first stage and then I had one set of strips for First stage of auxiliary heat and then I had the other two sets of strips run for the second stage And I had them timed out for a minimum of 15 to 20 minutes before the auxiliary strips could come on And then I I put some delays behind that and I'd even actually leave the other set of strips off because I played with it and tried Running one set of strips versus a maximum of two and three And I experimented with that, you know, I ran my highest electric bill for the longest time and I'm all electric Um, it was like 250 now when things got really cold Uh two three years ago when things got really crazy cold In lp gas. Well, this is back in obama days when lp gas was five dollars six dollars gas like it's going to be again If we get somebody else in charge um, basically, uh, that was when I was really Run the electric strips instead of the propane because the propane had gotten stupid I mean it was like the natural normal price was like 250 to three dollars And then they had a shortage because you know, there's no silver bullet Is what we were told back in the day and uh fuel prices went up to four and five dollars a gallon I think fuel oil up in Northeastern, you know freaking went up to like five or six bucks. I mean it was like stupid We had a shortage, you know, because you know that was before it was energy independent For now, so yeah rick probably has a I can't read that one. It's easier. I think a tv's just kind of crappy a mac for an end for his house I don't get that. Are you talking about a mac like semi? Hey, Yamo Yamo, what's up, man? We only have one sleeping pug down here tonight. The other one I kicked him out Yeah, he's been hateful. He's probably up there peeing and pooping all over the place after he just cleaned all the carpets Um What uh, and then let's see what yeah other than that. I think that was about the only thing I had on the uh, letro Letro shock therapy I had on that one. So yeah, I wanted to cover that there What else was there? I think those were some of the main ones. I think we covered a lot of it So if you guys are just tuning in you can always go back and see what we did there Got 82 people in here, which is awesome. If you guys would make sure you smack that thumb button That way if you guys do do decide to bounce out, uh, if you would smack that like I'm gonna definitely leave this one up This actually went a lot better Last week was not very good. So as you can tell I didn't leave that one up, which is you know One of the few that I've done What does the unit turn on during defrost heat strips or gas? Well the gas you have to have actually turned on so it usually goes heat strips, right? Well linux on the other hand always Uh Did not want you to run the gas heat when the heat pump went into defrost carrier did Now carrier had a tempering thermostat you could put in there between the coil and the furnace It was like 110 degree limit So that when the temperature of the furnace got so high It would cycle the gas furnace off of that little an insert limit So it could do it, but I finally got Bold and and said screw it and I've not had any issues so Uh, and I have a dukeane which is you know allied air which who owns also linux And I've not had no issues after working on the carrier as much as I do We run the furnace and I've not had no issues But yeah, usually it was either electric strips when it went into defrost and then now that I'm back to gas It runs the gas furnace so and it and I guess two and the other thing is on my furnace It's two stage, but I run it as a single stage for me I found it uses less propane gas running in single stage rick is cheap balls to the wall That's why I'm I'm really anti two stage furnace Especially when you have a heat pump. I've never have understood that if you think about it You got a heat pump you run it down to 30 degrees outside or 25 Well, it depends on the efficiency now you've sold the customer a two stage furnace now It's going to mosey dink around in first stage. It's already cold outside It's going to run for the seven minutes or ten minutes or whatever it is And then it goes to second stage prove me wrong. So yeah Oh boy, here we go. Yep. Yeah, where's that the comments are going to be on fire I hate two stage furnaces Prove me wrong. So yeah Gotta put my sign out there in front. So Uh Lost a couple people son of a biscuit man. You gotta keep this stuff real you're being so hateful I am a hateful. I am a hateful person sometimes two stage furnaces two stage furnaces where it's not at So what about you adam you like two stage furnaces? I don't mind it probably on natural gas where it's free Yeah, I pretty much always install at least the two stage furnace if not a modulating furnace And everything with a heat pump I don't really do heat pumps then I'd have no problem with it. I mean myself personally I I love them for like Uh, just straight air conditioning and and gas furnace. I don't have no problem with that Gives you some uh leeway if if it's not perfectly sized and all that other stuff or the duct works an issue I mean pro all different animal, right? It's a lot more expensive than natural gas. So It is more. I mean right now. It's like two dollars two dollars and 20 something a gallon I think it's what a hundred and four I forget 140 000 therm. I forget how to calculate it We the guy I used to work with used to work for the propane company told me how that works, but I I don't even remember now, but We just buy it and take it I tried a red bottle of hVAC go one four each five three he tried it It's like 40 bucks a bottle. Yeah, I wasn't tuned. I never tried it, but it looks like it was just problematic I saw uh, dr. Z made a video years ago on it and that was entertaining What he did like a pressure test video on it to see if it would hold and then he dragged it behind his truck This pipe maps on it until blue Yeah, I don't know I think the big question would be heat it up cool it down heat it up cool it down Or you know like throw it through a defrost or something like that That's where I think it'd be because that's where I think I see a lot of issues fails when you're going from extreme like for like a lot a lot of the Uh grocery stores when we have hot gas defrost, uh, or uh, yeah defrost You know we we jam in hot gas right into it right after it was just it like below freezing And now all of a sudden we're jamming hot gas in there trying to melt the ice off So I mean yeah, it's a good way to start getting your your cracks and stuff like that and your well joints let alone freaking glue together stuff Yeah flare joint you could do that Especially if you're doing refrigeration Let me most of that crap is low pressure most of the time anyhow So shannon said that low stage causes the inside of the heat exchanger to build up excessive rust It's going to condensate possibly more Oh, I hate it when personal reality. I mean if it's properly set up I mean you figure the furnace and slow the blower would slow down the draft motor is going to slow down I mean if it's properly designed from the factory it shouldn't but are those are this made out of aluminum The heat exchangers what this made out of stainless Some of them stainless galvanized Yeah Oh It depends Most of the primary which is the first one where the main flame is at that's usually like a galvanized slash They might call it some sort of stainless Mixed breed of some sort type thing and then you've got um The the secondary though is usually like a Actual stainless because that's where the condensation is going to be at and it's acidic and it'll eat through the metal So Yeah Because I condensate I think that would be fun to watch you change a carrier heat exchanger that you have to build I condensate, but I mean I don't have issues, but I also swat about my instrument. I'm done playing it too true This is a weirdo that won't drink pop before she plays her flute. Absolutely not Nothing sugar. I won't eat anything sugary Because that stuff will stick on your pads And I just paid like four hundred and fifty dollars just for my normal maintenance You think I'm gonna trash my pads. We ain't gonna go a deep detail of a flute, but yeah That's a good way to kill the conversation. That is expensive stuff. How do you like the flute temperature gun? Yeah, talk about that I like it another ebay special. I picked it up pretty cheap. It was really nice Um flute came out with one for uh skin temperature now. It looks just like the 62 plus max Which is what mine is 62 max plus. I don't use it for a lot of stuff. I use it mainly for uh That's my poor man's uh sight glass for the receiver. I don't have that fancy, uh Freakin Thermal imager anymore because it broke It went bad. I was using it So and then I ended up selling it was that snap on I picked that up fairly affordable off of uh, facebook Marketplace got it for like 200 bucks sold it after it didn't work Let the guy even know it didn't work and I still got sold it for like 300 and something so for parts Yeah, I told him up front. I said it's gonna cost you 200 bucks to get it fixed I said, you know, you'll have 500 bucks into a 700 or 800 dollar unit He paid for it and I sent it out to pennsylvania. I think so Yeah, I I don't think I must spend that kind of money on a thermal imager again I really didn't use it as much as I thought do you have one adam? I do I probably use it maybe a handful times per year So you don't use it much either At all. Yeah, I think it ended up kind of turning into a gimmick thing or something It was neat at first you found all these different reasons for it, but then you never use it much Kind of I do like you need it, you know, I mean like I found breaks in old style radiant systems under concrete or when they're running Fin tube and they drop the concrete down under, you know or drop the the copper down under the concrete and pop back up in another room You could easily see stuff like that, right Um But um, yeah, just like specialty situations is that's all I use it for I guess Justin. Yeah, so this is a good one. So I guess Justin. I would want to know are you um a new tech or are you like You know in school or whatnot, but he wants to know which electrical meter should he ask for for christmas And he would prefer one with an amp clamp and go I would say, you know, is it's your only one you got so is this your first one? So it's going to be your primary meter I mean, if you're looking for the most bang for the buck, you're not going to beat field piece I mean, they've got the most accessories and gizmos and probably, you know, the best technical support Um, you know available. I like He said new tech I like fluke, but you know fluke ain't perfect. I mean They don't give you a lot of bang for your buck I mean, they're they're they're freaking cheap when it comes down to it far as being tight wads They don't give you much extra. I mean, it's that's stupid 902 fc. I got I think it sells for 250 260 bucks and all it's got is amperage voltage Resistance only up to I think 60 000 ohms Uh, I don't think it even has millen volts. It's got micro amps and that's about it Does it? It is true too I I like the fluke. I'm a I have a 902 fc Um, it is more expensive, but here's the thing. I've had field piece. Let me down where I've been, uh, you know shocked Because showing me a false negative and then also ui ui has happened multiple times I'm multiple different meters that I borrowed from friends So after a certain like working out of jobs, I'm like pass me your meter and I use it Oh, we got no volts here. Okay Yeah, and then I get it and I get lit up by it and then after that happened like two or three times. I'm like ui sucks. I will never buy ui I'm sorry and like maybe they're better now. Maybe those meters Maybe it was like an old style meter that just was known for an issue. Maybe it was low on batteries I don't know but my fluke has never done that to me You know what I noticed about the fluke and it's not even my good fluke. My really good fluke is my 376 I mean, that's a 450 dollar meter But and I don't hardly ever use it because I don't want to get it scratched up because I'm I'm a girl like that I don't like it to get more, you know, or wore up and tore up. I just don't need that much meter I mean, that's that's like the You know the 350 Chevy engine there. I just don't need that much power when the the four cylinder will do it So the 902 is my beater meter as I call it But nice thing. I love about it is it's fast and accurate You know, it it's slow sometimes about getting to that last point 2.1 amp But it always seems to no matter where you're at on cheaper meters You ever notice like they tell you the most accurate spots Usually like right in the middle of the wire like right in the middle of the clamp With the fluke it don't seem to matter if it's at the very edge all the way the end It seems to hold that no matter where it's at are you throwing gang signs there bud. It's real also the difference between measuring microfarad on a field piece versus the fluke is Night and day in my experience. I don't know if it is on all meters But the fluke you're checking the capacitor. Boom. You have your readings immediately field piece U. E. I was horrible about that because they were using two triple A batteries And it would take forever and joe. I do have the fluke 87 5 I have the 376 I have the 112 I have the 117 I'm a fluke fanatic. I got some freaking meters. I don't even use. I mean, I've got that one back there Set in there. I've got two or three in my freaking truck. I just only use them made comments that he thought Fluke got sold to the Chinese. Is that true? The Chinese make their stuff. I mean, there's only like A few meters that fluke makes in the united states the 87 5 was still made in america. I think the one set are the uh What is it the 70 179 I think that one might be made in america um And raymond made comments that He he said a fluke would just get the damn magnet under control. I'd be in heaven The 902 fc magnet is a pain And I stole the magnet off my 376 But I I I bought a cheap magnet on ebay Because you can buy the t-pack thing for 19 bucks the fake version It says fluke on it believe it or not, but the The Cut to corners that and um, basically the uh I put that on my 376 because I'm just not using it much. So yeah, jd said rick has a meter you can have lol For that guy that's a new tech justin that was asking about meters That's you know, I don't and if you guys remember if you watch my old videos I had um amp probe which amp probe got bought out by fluke and so The how I got the 376 and I am really surprised to this day. They gave me that 376 fluke For free because I had two problems in a row with that amp probe and the amp probe I had now the amp probe was very accurate It's a power meter. It was in their power meter conversions or in their meter claims Its accuracy was better than most the flukes. I mean it was like 0.002 on some stuff I mean it was super stupid accurate to the point where we just don't need that accurate But the reason why I got that amp probe that I had is because it did dc amperage Because I was doing generators. It also did um power factor because I was doing generators And you know power factor was something nobody had at the time. Um, you know Frickin the stuff that just came out recently very few had an ahead phase rotation and it had Uh in rush it had it has so much crap on it's ridiculous But the problem is the battery goes dead fast on it. It's not always um Accurate on the frequency that it was supposed to be it was supposed to be more accurate on freak drives Because it has low pass filter, but it don't Uh, the the the 87 five is dead on 376 can do it all through the clamp Matter of fact, you can't even measure frequency through the clamp Or through the the leads only through the clamp and that baby is dead nuts on on the freaking clamp I've never would a million years seen that would have figured that so That's kind of weird though because um from my understanding amp probe amp probe and fluke is the same company. Is it not? They own it. But it's made in china. Just like the fluke is. I mean that 902 fc's made in china 200 and some dollar meter and make it in china You know, it's almost 300 dollar. I think something like it depends on where you get screwed at to buy it. So The funny thing is what do you think the profit margin is on that? Oh my gosh It's got to be stupid. I mean they got one duck wong doing it for next to nothing So, I mean, you know, they then they're they're they're working for slave labor I'm assuming I could be wrong, but I don't think anybody gets paid all that great over there But what they'll do is I'll tell you well, we own the factory So we we keep a track of the quality and we own the machines and all this other stuff and uh-huh But I you know far as I know That like the any major technology and stuff. I mean, it's just like on some of the different things I've noticed they don't sometimes put the chips in it until it gets back to our country Joe said I think I was made in china I was made in canadia, which I think is why I'm all screwed up. Both my kids are made in hot tubs So, yeah, I was not a part of that just you guys know One was made down in gatlinburg and the other one was made over in indiana. So, yeah They always love hearing those sort of things Oh jd says he has a tiny amp clamp made by triplet only goes to 300 amps though. Yeah Triplet was top notch. I mean, that's what that old meter there is. I mean, it's what's tied in there with simpson uh triplet used to be a really awesome company, but they went to piss just like freaking uh amp probe did I mean amp probe really was never a big player in the game But you know, they've got a lot of odd oddities triplet nowadays. It's just They they ain't what they used to be there. I actually worked in the man's house that freaking was one of the owners of the factory He's dead now, but They uh, that was I was you know, those were some good stuff back in the day Ricky Hertz uh said wasn't the actor who played long duck dong from chicago Probably do you know him adam? See your name. That was revenge of the nerds. I think wasn't it? I don't know. Yeah Funny story Fun fact about revenge of the nerds the guy who wrote that show steve zacharias. Um, I had a crazy friend Uh, he still texts me every so often, but I had a crazy friend that like just loves to talk You know those people that like go on public and they just talk to everyone They bought it right. It's like they have to start a conversation. Well, um He bought into this guy and he made acquaintances. They exchanged numbers And it was steve zacharias the guy who wrote revenge of the nerds in the army now and everything like that and I was his roommate Back 20 years ago and he was uh, he came over because he was considering doing a reality show On our house and our roommates at the time and never went through but that was kind of cool Cool You know that unity that shenan's talking about there I bought one of those for my son for christmas a year ago or two years ago And I put that up there against my amp probe and my fluke and it was dead on I could not believe it But there's a that the same guy that does the tests on that one also did those bryman meters and bryman I never heard of prior to either, but they are super accurate, too And uh, the one guy he was bashing on the 87 five because he said the bryman could take more of a of a uh A surge, uh, he had this surge machine Basically he had capacitor bank and he would literally purposely smash these meters with freaking spikes And I forget how many joules of power he would nail it with but it was like It was crazy amounts and it was just like arc internally. Yeah, I mean it was it's pretty cool I forget the guy's name. I got him saved on my it's one of my electronic forums and stuff I forget the guy's name, but he was so anti 87 five and finally he found out that he had a defective one And then he finally apologized because he got a couple other ones did some tests on them, but Yeah, that unity those things you get for 45 bucks and it's got ac dc amps and everything on it That's a heck of a little meter. Yeah, it's small even dave was using that thing for a while Dave nor cow So adam I had to look up because I remember watching revenge of the nerds when I was younger And I mean, that's a classic. You can't go wrong with that one. That was That came out in 1984. I was a year old. Yeah, that's funny I remember when I came over to our hang out with us and we were just bs with him and uh He uh, you know, I was sitting there. I was sipping on something I think it was a margarita or whatever and I'm like, uh, do you want me to make you like a drink or whatever? I'm like, yeah, what are you drinking? I'm like margarita and uh, he's like, yeah I'll take one of those so I made him margarita and he's like, I don't know what you're gonna do in the film industry But you have a strong future a bright future in margarita making I'll tell you that That's awesome. We only got one down so far. That's pretty pretty good. Is that updated lately though? Uh, yeah, no, it always updates does it the thumbs Make sure you smash that thumb man. If you would please give me the thumb I'd appreciate that the happy thumb so Yeah, because they don't have the middle finger if you need to like go to the bathroom Go smoke some crack something like that before you go do this sort of things make sure you smack the thumb I'd appreciate that a nice thumb is an awesome thing to do. I appreciate that Really you're desperate on the bottom of my hand You are desperate. Oh, so apparently shannon is a meter guru I am you guys should have a meter night. Yeah throw your meter out there on the table Let's see who's got the biggest meter My dad has one of those like old amp clamps like the amp probe and the the the black things that it's like it's just a What do you call it like a pin that moves around analog? Yeah analog Sorry, are we talking about the voltage meter that just like goes up and down No, it's it's the amp one My dad still uses it. I'm like it finally like I mean, do you want another meter? No, no, no. Do you want another meter? No, so finally I just gave a meter Just take this the fluke and now he's using I catch me using new meter now finally But I have one of those and you know, it's fairly accurate for being analog. It's made in America And I I think I've owned that thing for well I was working for another refrigeration company back when I they replaced it because it got broken And I never really used it. So it's like 19 years old and I've never really used it much But it's like mint condition. It's a backup But you know sometimes it like like my my old first manager he'd be like I have an analog For when it gets super super cold out because you know back in the day you figure You know mid 90s digital meters were just kind of coming out and stuff like that I mean they were out but you know good ones were super crazy dumb money and They had issues. So he'd be like I've got a Analog for when it's super super cold out for for accuracy reasons and stuff. So I've got it. It's set in there I mean You know the only thing I don't like about it makes me feel unsafe about it. It's the ant probe is The meter leads on it are weird proprietary. They're like a round thing You stick them up in there and turn it and it's like a twist lock, but it's very It's kind of floppy dink in there And that's the only thing I don't like about it. How many are going to hVAC school training synopsis and whatever I like his name R 134 a hole I like that. It's kind of cool. It's really cool. I like it. So yeah, he wants to know how many people are going to the hVAC school training Symposium and clear my this march now adam. Is that what um, just talked about She talked about some kind of synopsis. Yeah, she says she's gonna buy it from her man posium Which it's it's uh, I don't know if I was supposed to talk about this or not, but we're not Yeah, we were invited to uh, you know do like a live performance on the stage, which I don't know how that's gonna go because we're kind of a little crass and not very educational and uh I'm not sure how brian or would think about our shit stories But yeah, he messes message us and asked to go so we'll see till chris the dial in the shit stories I think we need to dial everything a little bit. I'm not sure what we'll have left to talk about though You need to have like, you know, your ring like your ring ladies in boxing So someone with a big sign in the back that can hold them up like cue cards to tell you when to like, you know Knock it off. Well, he had chris talk at his last thing back at the the uh show they had when sick got Chris got that funky chicken thing going on back in But chris on his own channel is like a different chris. Yeah He's the chris that just left sunday school chris Yes, I agree he comes over time and he's a whole different man You know, I like him better on your channel though, and you can tell him I said that He might be watching you never know he could be he hasn't he hasn't really made any comments yet But I do like it that he lets his hair down On your guys's channel. He's got to keep that special image going, you know, he's more proper than I am I wasn't saying like you babe. Absolutely. I remember chris saying something nice about me about checking a video out I did and somebody's like he's on those trump supporters. Amy I've like are you serious after you come up with really? It's like i'm sorry. Are we on my pro-second amendment? Yeah. Do I like freedom? Yeah So uh ricky made comments. He said joe will have to use his real name to leave canada. So yeah Um adam make sure you try to sneak and look at his passport Yeah, I'd do that, you know If joe does if I get to you know, if joe does kind of some come to the states We're hanging out and if I come anywhere near his luggage, I am gonna buy one of those little tracking devices And then I'm gonna wait till he's home and I'm gonna send him a picture of his house. So then he That'd be hilarious. You should do that You know, I bet there is a freaking virus that you could probably send app wise to his phone somehow I could track it through that Or yeah, it's called life 360. Well, we got that but i'm just saying it's like there's gotta be It's gotta be a way to So joe shear has a question for you about your twist guard leads Um, I like them they uh Once again my cheap bottom on ebay. So they I think they're uh oem true fluke brand I didn't pay the crazy money they want. What are they? Uh, they are Do I know what they look like they're I twist them so that basically they don't have chance to have arc flash They're when I twist them that they show exposed metal about yay long and then when I tilt them the other way just a little tip It's to help protect me because there is several times where I'm working on 460 volt and after watching arc flash videos for a while You get kind of a little more careful So that was why I got them even though they're kind of dumb money But I think I got them cheap. I think I got them for like 35 bucks versus the 48 or 50 that they sell for But I I do like them Stupid expensive. Yeah, it's always other accessories. Everything expensive But you know for like my 87 5 I have a set of the uh probes. Uh that are just you know the uh The wires only and then you buy the tips separate so that if the tips everywhere I won't have to pay the full amount again So I got them so that I can pop off the ends and put on my little alligator clamps or I can put on the twist lock or I can put on the Uh piercene I've got several different gizmos for that. Yeah, he was asking if yours are the removable ones Those ones on the the 90902 uh sc is not those are fixed now the ones on my 87 5 that you guys hardly ever see Because I only use that generally if I have a weird random power issue going on or if I'm doing generators Those have the removable and they're a little thicker But I would probably just go with the fixed because they're just a little simpler because otherwise you're going to get really long leads and I don't like long leads for He said that he's had three sets of the one-piece leads and they build up resistance in the Strain relief and they start to fluctuate on his oe oe gem All meridians. Yep. I have the same problem I I noticed though if you bend them back and forth a few times and they're good and I'll double check them because that's why I hate using that meter for resistance checks because It'll read sometimes at one or two maybe five ohm seven ohms I'll bend them back and forth a few times and it'll work fine for a day or two I I have the same issue and I figured it maybe was just because I had probably some Chinese knockoffs even though they're all Made in china. Nope doesn't seem like it's yeah across the board like so. Yeah, you probably could go with the the um the other ones I've got the Part numbers, but yeah I I bought the other one where it's because you can get the leads themselves Just like lead only with no tips on it for like 22 bucks on ebay and then buy the other thing for What can you turn me down? volume wise Thank you like that. I can't reach it. Are you saying I'm too loud? Yeah, but he very nice, but you are loud I'm surprised the kids in the back are sleeping through it. Yeah Have you used the uh fluke app for the 902? Yeah, not very often because it's almost like You know How often am I really taking into consideration arc flash and all that other stuff that you know Or if I need to measure the amperage so that I put the blower door on I mean that was kind of the trick they kind of said but Uh And the range is short. I mean you're like what 25 feet if you're lucky something like that I've used it once or twice. That's about it So joe said that he just got the high end ones and bought a nice kit with needle probes and piercing probes You've got the piercing ones, right? I bought all of it individually and separately because I'm jewish 3% jewish. Yeah, he is 3% jewish had to do that Uh 20 was it 21 of me or ancestry? You did ancestry. Yeah, I'm 3% jewish didn't even know it So now I can say it without sounding Uh, whatever it's called. We haven't figured that part out yet though. Yeah Shalom Shalom he said shalom peace be with you also Yeah, I feel more connected with god now Breathe right now. It's so cold in my garage and I don't know why I didn't bring a sweatshirt So wait, you have that set up in your garage? Yeah, and I don't I turn the furnace off because it's too loud, but I'm so cold I'm dude put on turn on the turn on the heat. Here we are I thought like you were like in the basement or like or something. I never knew that you streamed out from the garage I've got my car marked shirt on and I got my I got some under five layers under stuff on I got a good deal. I know I got the tops and bottoms for 10 bucks Rural king rule king My wife kicks me out of the house. I'm too loud. She says Oh Yeah, you are really a loudmouth. You are so loud. Yeah That's it That's funny Joe says he's quarter quarter Jewish, you know back in the day people would be like afraid to say this sort of things So that's why he said they call him rabbi nice Yeah, that's funny. I like it So JD said so it's 18 Adam curious Chris Stefanovich. Yes So Joe they actually warrantied those leads for you. Did you just like call them email them or what? I I had no idea they might actually do that and a grand and I've got them on ebay So they're probably going to reseat. So and they won't do that. So yeah, it's rude. I'm not getting that one. Yeah Is there anything we've missed or anything ham ham computes from his garage So I don't know if you guys saw this or not, but earlier Ham said he was stripping Copper while he was listening to us and I said well said I'm glad you're stripping copper and not stripping off your clothes And then you know Shannon's like hammy's hanging out with the strippers. It happens. Someone's got to do it. I guess Rick is 97 go what go yam. The heck is that? I don't know. Maybe that's what they call infidels Like the you know, how they call us infidels. Maybe that's what Jewish people call infidels. Yeah, hard to say I don't know whatever My wife is my kids are Jewish And We got into a fight after a while and you're not Jewish Because I lived by like the Seinfeld method or whatever where it's like, you know, I went Jewish for the jokes, right? I can't wish you married you. You're not a jew Jewish jokes all the time, but after you know five years of that she started to get really irritated. So I had to stop Is she a hundred percent? Yep See, she's not supposed to marry you. They like don't like marrying outside of their own kind You must be quite the catch on them You lured her over That was kind of crazy as when I was up there in michigan and seeing the old curious dude. He uh They have like a Jewish town up there. It was really wild big time like we went right through the Jewish district Yeah, you know, like I when I was in new york I went through chinatown this like freaking jewish town I'm like, what the heck is this crap? It must have been like an orthodox town where they have like the hats and they're wearing the whole door or deal The little like curly cues on both sides. They had a Jewish story even I mean it was like crazy I'm like this is weird. It was it was interesting the whole just street after street. I'm like peace my bro So ricks like my people I'm willing by three percent three percent. That's it. Just three percent According to joshere. He said adam had to be circumcised. I was european jewish is what they said What he said adam had to be circumcised first though. Oh boy, but that hurt Um, I was circumcised when I was born you know me too Yep, so That's going downhill in a real hurry. We're at 69 dude. So Whoa, so jd said his his the ancestry.com changed him from jewish. Just fetish I had a lot of weird stuff in my interesting I'm fetish Are you? Yeah, see my last name is actually german, but I ain't even got no german at me because like I said I was adopted So, yeah, it's kind of crazy. Yeah, I'm a little bit of everything. I'm german. I'm swedish. I'm a little bit of french I'm irish. I'm mostly swedish. I'm about 25 irish. So Croatian as well too. So I have a little bit of everything That's fancy I don't even remember because you like done all my background checking a lot. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah Background check on you rick when you guys got married. No, no I should have Justin says he's atheist and I didn't think that's that's a religion. That's that's that's a religion more than a Or a lack of there of religion than it is a It's not a lack of it's just that you choose not to believe in anything Yeah, but I mean it's not a race to I mean I don't think some people I don't know like jewish people are Jewish is like a religion and it's also Yes, it's both. It's race and religion both But not all jews are believing practicing Judaism Matter of fact from what I've watched not granted. This is on the backside of things I mean from what I've seen don't don't sound like they really even believe a lot of things about it So it's kind of interesting But hey, we just went into politics and I talk about religion too because you ain't gonna like me if you do that So, you know, and I do find it. Did you ever do an ancestry dna thing adam? No, they freaking database you're asked the government after that. I'm all about it. I don't give I don't give crap So like it was interesting because the more people that they have do it They're able to like expand their gene pool I'm scottish So, yeah, so like it's because before you didn't have this many different options. How did I get that now now? Now I got 17 percent your Or that's what you're mad at your meaning. What the hell is it frank? Let let me talk So, yeah, so you are 36 England in northwestern europe Just a bad side 19 scotland You have 17 dramatic europe 14 ireland your eight percent swedish your Still three percent european jewish european jewish and the other three percent from wales interesting Yep I should do it. I just get on the list screw it It's interesting. I I you know, I mean up till I was 23 I had no clue what my My anything about my background where I was from anything no clue who the biologicals were anything And if you work on your family tree an ancestry what is so cool about it is like depending on how far back Like you know and your ancestors you can go it can actually show you When your dna came over from what country by what ancestor? Like I I don't want to do that, but I just don't want to do all the work I just want them to like click and say hey look This is what your family was 200 years ago or 300 years ago. This is the people that were involved with it I don't want to like search out and do this and do that. I tried it once, but I don't know how hard is it You just keep spitting in the cup man Mm-hmm. Just got to spit in the cup. It's all I got you guys spit a lot so But yeah, like I really I've been working on rick's Family tree like his biological side, which I mean nothing to see here. Yeah, we really haven't found anything too crazy But I also have a tree for your whole adopted family as well So the bio dad claims that we have family that invented the lazy boy chair There's some other stuff that's kind of crazy like that that he he pulls up to so everybody does like a good lazy boy Oh, yeah, somebody tried to give me a recliner the other day They said it's a nice condition recliner one of my family members. I'm like, is it a lazy boy? And he's like no, but it's super comfortable. I'm like, no, thanks. It's not I don't think I've ever owned a lazy boy That's just too rich for mine Oh, thank you for loose ground. Just subscribe. He's got excellent trigger control. He may not be watching So I mean he he may just happen to subscribe while he was watching the video He may not even be watching right now. I know but it's still cool to see the trigger But if you are luke thinks and welcome aboard Yeah to the nut house. Yeah, welcome to the nut house Everything's normal here. He's the chief nut in charge for real So Yeah, uh-oh you're screwing things up. Well, this is mine. I can't so everything else you want to talk about adam While we're out here. How about you people? We pretty much covered all the videos and everything else You guys have been going like ham on these um all this business with the ultraviolet like yeah, what's up with all this this like, uh Hate on the different lights. Holy crap Hmm I don't know if I would trust that thing I know we we we had it optional and one of the guys at our workplace put it in and he kind of liked it But if it's anything like the bipolar device that we put in the ice machine I was not impressed that and it failed and all it is is I ions. That's it I just want to know how they might work. I I'd like to get like because like I I think most Techs really only know what they're told right? Um, and it's like well this does this and look at the magic it puts in your it's like fairy dust you know You you you can feel it here Like I took my old one out and put it in my dad's house and literally I could smell the difference in the basement The basement has an old crappy basement and it started making it smell normal Uh, and that was a year old bulb um, so The bulb on this one's got the same life of two years to calculate something if you run it 24 hours a day It's like two to two and a half years. So it not only has the ultraviolet light, but it has the uh hydrogen peroxides It also has the ionizing supposedly has six different technologies. I only know about two or three of them I don't know what the other three are but She can feel it because she's got every Uh health problem under the sun. So she knows the difference Yeah, she knows the difference in it me not so much. I mean it just depends. I mean now grant it I noticed I I don't smell certain things when I come down to our basement, which it never has had much of a smell but um Like my nose usually is pretty clear It never really gets stuffed up when I'm laying down or anything like that when I'm I'm here because the dogs Do create a little bit of an allergy for me and it's not so much now even with this light So it does seem like it works a little better Oh, and I forgot to tell you this Adam. So I actually have like, um A so clean it's called so clean and it's um actual machine. I put my c-pap um like masking it the hose and it actually What Kind of no, you don't want this one doesn't do ozone though, but it it does the same thing where it does it Um it ionizes by adding in that because you don't want ozone ozone's bad It just ionizing and by making that ionization you have you can run it from anywhere from seven to 12 minutes And then you have to let it Sit in the closed container because it actually goes like it's in through your hose and sterilizes your reservoir tank and everything And you have to let it sit for like two hours afterwards and then you're good to go. It's completely sterilized And yeah, it's so clean and it is it's definitely ozone to generate 100% you can smell the ozone Yes, you can smell it for sure On ours No on my so clean that I put that I clean my c-pap machine and mask with Now dad smells the a little bit of ozone off the light I gave him I kind of smell something but it doesn't smell like normal ozone like you would smell off because I had the linux light before And that one definitely you could get it with and without ozone and all that was was just pure ultraviolet light and it didn't Didn't do nothing like what this one here does but Because the ultraviolet light just pure ultraviolet light just kills what it passes through where the other one has this little hydrogen peroxide molecules or whatever That transfers and floats all throughout the house and through the ductwork and supposedly covers every square inch and blah blah blah It kills a sneeze within three foot of your body and cures cancer You know it cures homelessness You know freaking little whales that get lost from their home. They find their way home and you know things like that Wow, yeah, I'm looking at the pure air now. I just got a I just sent over a request for the pure air bypass. They do like high airflow bypass I'm getting there Chuck. Yeah, because I know the one one of them they kept talking about I've seen at our supply house Um, I forget what it's called Pure look for That looks like freaking like Stand by or like little self-contained good housekeeping is done an article on the eight best Best and worst air purifiers of 2020 that's by consumer reports. So you'd know it's accurate. Oh, absolutely Um, let's see here I Don't trust a lot of these people They're going to go off of reviews off of uh freaking amazon or something stupid. Those are all self-contained. This is something you put in your ductwork, right? What's that the pure air is it going your ductwork or is it a little canister? You've deducted it. It's a bypass You can duck it Just duck it just duck it You don't have to plug it in Just duck it You guys are bad Um Yeah, it's it's very interesting how on now all they're not going to show professional ones. Those are all self-contained That's just all you got to be prepared man. You're not prepared Well, I'm was looking at ancestry. Sorry. Um, adam. I am 14 percent swedish. He don't care We could be cousins Yeah I'm trying to think what I am my Grandma I think was 50 swedish and my grandpa was 100 swedish. So what does that make me? I don't know. It doesn't matter because it's all about how the dna falls Ain't it funny how clean and clear it looks like on my monitor here and then that one there's not Yeah, oh yes Yeah, see the little sign behind her head to her Right There right there. Yep Since we're kind of winding down and people are dropping like flies Let me unplug I made it You're crafty my little arts and crafts project It's vinyl I cut it out of my cricket And slapped her on there Because it's always txv's fault You have all these surprises for rick when he gets home for work Do what not always She has surprises for you whenever you get home from work. Oh, yeah, she's always always here to surprise me Always here to surprise me So make sure you guys hit that thumb button on your way out the door there She guys are kind of bouncing out of here like a bomb. We only got two thumbs downs. That's pretty good That's really good for us. We did really well tonight. I think I think we peaked up there What about mid 80s boy? Holy crap? You say thumbs and boom make it like screw this crap. I'm out of here They're like check you later. Yes later losers by felicia Toodles slam it boom out the door you go If y'all gonna leave I'll just like take you off there and me and Adam just talk about stuff with y'all not here Then y'all could like witness it, but no we take you out. That's okay So, oh boy, babe. Yep. Yep. You're a little ridiculous. Yep. Yep Well, I think we're running out of stuff We're at one one minute and 50 seconds there. So I think we could try Close her down there. I want to thank everyone for coming in tonight. Hopefully it was a little better than last week if you were here Uh, like I said, if you guys would make sure you smack your thumb on the button there on your way out the door For you pee on the floor And I appreciate everyone coming in. I appreciate everyone that's been subscribers of the channel that watches the videos guys I really do appreciate your time. I try to make them worthwhile And you know, this is a great opportunity for me to kind of go over anything that I might have forgotten to say in the videos and stuff So from the bottom of my heart, I truly appreciate everyone coming in here and hanging out with us tonight. So Um, we're probably going to wrap it up And if you want to hang out for a little bit afterwards, you know, you can if not whatever that's cool, too So I think I'm just going to go ahead and wrap this thing up here. You got your your sky pad there ready It's not a sky pad Pro pager. Well, I'm glad we helped you out. Hammy with all your he has a good Pile of clean copper. So I'm glad we could help you out with that. I have some copper Cool. Well, thanks a lot guys. Once again, we're going to wrap it up and uh Till next time guys, we'll catch you next week sunday 8 30 eastern standard time the same bat channel later guys Bye bye Thanks now Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. I want to see motion movement. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. 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