 Welcome to Toffy TV, I'm joined in the studio by Tony Samson from Chicago, kind of, we're going to get a story. It is our next overseas blues. His voice is an American, you'll hear in a minute. But how it's good to finally have you're in the studio, we've done this remotely, when you've been over, we haven't quite been able to meet up with, we have actually seen you a couple of times this time, so it's been good, so how are you? Very well, very well indeed, it's great to be here, finally see where all the magic happens. Instead of staring at you down a computer screen, no, very well, I've been visiting my mum and dad who've had a bit of a rough patch, so it's been great, first time I've been back in 20 months now, so it's really nice to be back, obviously spend some time with them, but actually I've been able to see a lot of Evanton as well and get me Evanton fix, so yeah, it's brilliant to be back. You're still waiting to be glanted the chance to go back to America at the moment? Yeah, yeah, with some of the travel restrictions, just a little bit of paperwork that needs to be sorted, so I'm hoping that gets up soon. So when you come over, how long did you initially think you were going to be over for, or was it just an unknown? It is a little bit of an unknown, depending on what type of ease you have and all that sort of stuff, so there was a little bit of risk attached, but I think the process is normally about four weeks, so that's the maximum, so I'm a bit over that now, but as I say, I've been able to take advantage of Evanton, so in fact, you know, I've been to three ways, and I've been going against tonight. I was in Waterloo last night to see the Howard's Way screening with Trevor Stevens, so yeah, I'm taking full advantage, you get me Evanton fix. Get as much in as you can. Exactly, yeah. Well, let's take you back then, obviously, by surrounding your voice, you're a scouser, so Evanton, why Evanton? I can imagine it's exactly the same as many other people, it was my dad, so yeah, I grew up in south Liverpool, lived in Liverpool for the first sort of 20 odd years of my life, but yeah, it was my dad. He was the first one that got me hooked into Evanton, and he used to go home and away when he was a lad and a young man and talked to me about all the experiences he had. I specifically remember him telling me about him travelling down to London for the 66 FA Cup final and that experience, so as you know, when he started taking me about the age about five or six, I don't have to tell anybody as soon as you get that experience of walking up to the ground and walking up and seeing the green of the grass and everything, it just... You were hooked. That's it, and here I am now, and I've got two of my own lads and I, before we moved out to the US, they had season tickets, so the four of us had season tickets together, so I've managed to sort of brainwash them and sort of make sure that they're blues as well. So better all the way. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Who was your first hero then? My first hero was Graham Sharpe. Was it you? So yeah, he was the one I wanted to be in the playground. Yeah, and I love Graham Sharpe. I can remember the goal against Spares. I'm just thinking, you know, this is, you know, just seeing that for the first time was unreal. And then, as I got older, I always used to love the fact that he seemed to hate the reds. He was a great goal scorer, a scorer of great goals as well. There's plenty to choose from, and I thought he was quite underrated actually, but he was the one all the time. I remember getting one of my first replica kits, actually, and they didn't have numbers on the back then. And I remember mum saying, you know, can we somehow get a number nine on the back? And she did it out of a vest. It's also got on, I was made up. I used to play out in the front of our house. There used to be a big gate that was always used to be the goal. That was the goal. So it used to practice, but it went pink in the wash, the number nine. So I had to retire it. Ah, so good. Na, you'd have had Stein Devil or something, you'd have been able to get that. Oh yeah, absolutely. You'd have been shot on that, wouldn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, completely. No, that wasn't around. So Graham Sharp, right? And Sharp was unbelievable. Evans, right? He was so good. So I was aged and he was so, you know, them two worked well together. So shamely they didn't have longer together. Longer, the injury. Yeah, he tailed it a bit. But now Graham Sharp, what an absolutely fantastic player. And you're right, obviously great goals scorer, but scorer are great goals. That's not an goal for me still. People try to live up to who I am feel, which was an incredible goal, but the spare's goal for me was the best goal I ever scored. Just the angle right on the edge of the box in the way. Folly in the air, the height of him. Unbelievable. Not yet, to be honest. He scored quite a few crackers that year. Sain us last weekend. He scored one against Leeds. We beat Leeds at home one. And he scored a volley from the edge of the box. Forrest, I think he got two. One of them was a volley. Just absolutely brilliant goals scorer. It was funny cos I never used to have that much confidence if he was on a one-on-one with the goal. I wasn't quite sure. There were a few occasions I can remember now where he, number one in the 44 against Liverpool as well, where he went through. That seemed to be what held him back a little bit. He could have scored so many more goals. For me, he was there. I loved the way we used to hang in the air. Sort of a little bit like DCL today. I was going to say this. I guess there's a lot of similarity. Not a lot, but the similarities between him and Dominic Aldrin. Cos people, you know, Dom's not brilliant one-on-one either. Fabulous in the air. Get more than his first year of goals and stuff. Yeah, sometimes you think they're up there too early, but I mean, Sharpie just used to hang in the air. He didn't know what he'd done after that. Always, always, you know, and his ability on the ground as well. He had a bit of edge as well. Yeah, he was me, man. Those memories. I know. Do you know what your first game was? Do you know what I can't? Can't he remember? I was in there. Yeah, I know, but it's funny because I think I'm the only one that can't remember the first game. We were in Orlando, obviously pre-season, and there was a little bit of a Q&A with David France and Dallan Griffiths, and I was on there talking about what we were doing out in North America. I got the same question. I went round with everybody on the panel, and I was the only one that couldn't do it. I just can't remember it. What's the first game you can remember then? The first game I can remember. I tell you what I can remember is I can remember a series of draws with Jillingham, and a cup to remember them. Was it 1-1-0-0? 0-0-0. The first game was 0-0-0. I started going before then, but I can remember that for me. It was horrible game. I'm thinking, is this it? Is this how it's going to be? Yeah, but we ended up winning. We did. We did. We got through it. But yeah, it was always for me, like many other people, I was the only one in our school that was in our school, in our year. Sorry, my class. It was a blue. And I can remember, I mean those Monday mornings were brutal. Going in. I'll never forget my first Derby. So that was the 5-0. We were in the Lower Bullens. I was in the Lower Bullens. Towards the Gladys Street end. And I can remember. I mean, you know, one, two, three, four. And then, of course, then obviously, you'd sit next to Reds much more than you do now. And they were absolutely everywhere. We had. My dad, anasthe, my uncle, the three of us were in the Bullens, and we must have had 25 of them sat down. And obviously, Glen Keilley gets sent off, and then off you go. It scars you, doesn't it? Scandals. I remember crying all the way home, thinking, you know, I can't do this. You know, we can't do this again. It was terrible. And in fact, to this day, I'll never watch a Derby. You know, like me mate, come watch the poor boy. I'll never do that. Apart from the first time I broke me duck, it was actually last season in Chicago. But the pub split into sort of two bars, so all the blues were in the back, and the Reds were in the front. So I don't know whether or not I need to change it now, cos we've got to win. You've got to think like that. You've got to think like that. That's the way it is, the rules. The first Abbey, I can remember, and probably vividly, was... I think it was the season before or two seasons before. It was the beaters three, one of Goddison. And Shaft scored actually, I think Shaft equalised for everything, but I think Rush scored and Tuna scored. I remember we wouldn't have made my Dabba in the upper Gladys Street. And it was just, it was magical to Dabba, and it was like the 54,000 there, whatever. And I remember they, like, scrambled and equalised it before half-time, or just after half-time, and I remember they gramed Shawn's score on for them. Dalglish, with his big fat ass, backing into it, he was an unbelievable master of holding the ball. Oh, he's fair, wasn't he? And he rolled it back and Shawn's smashed it into the grief of death at the park end, and the beaters three won, and I remember, like, coming out, I think. You know what coming out, I think? We'll beat them next time, and they were amazing, and we went, they were like champions, weren't they? We'd had to go. Now I haven't been able to speak for about three weeks, but just as a kid, you're like, I will beat them next time going into school, but what's weird is, you say, you were the only one. It wasn't there, I went to Quarry Bank, it wasn't really like that in Quarry Bank. There was loads of blues, so there was a split. Don't get me wrong, but you'd write Monday mornings, could be, cos everything would obviously crack, and they were winning everything. So sometimes you would get a hammer, but obviously it changed. And I can remember as well, I mean, I'd walk with you as well as you go through your life, but, you know, my only talk at the time was always, I'm with you there, and you go. So even then, that sort of, you know, defence mechanism was there. I can remember saying at the time, cos my dad used to say, you know, come on, go like, they've been on with me again. I was like, yeah, better not, I'm done with this, son. So just, you know. But you never have any choice. It's not that long, no, it's just till it changed. And I was saying this to someone, talking about it the other week, and I was like, cos you're a kid and you start winning all of a sudden, I was thinking. That's how it is. We just went for what we do, we went leagues, we went cups. Life's great. Well, this is it for life. I can remember the morning of the 85 Cup Final. I can remember, and this is exactly sort of, is an example of what you just said. I remember being on my bike with a mate of mine, Christine, his name was at the time. He was a red, wasn't that much into football. And we were talking about the match that I was doing. Talking about the match that afternoon, and he was like, you know, what do you think it's going to be? And I was so confident. I was like, oh yeah, no problem. We'll win that. To think back, you know, how nice it would be to have that level of confidence now. And then obviously. I've told the younger lads in here, and I've said this before, and I told the Q&A team, me and Peter E, I've done the Q&A for Peter E, so we were at the side, cos the Sunderland game is on it, isn't it? I've said before to the lads. I and Wallace scored that day after 85 seconds. That's right, yeah, they did to the lead in here. And me and Dad were like, yes. Cos we're going to come out now and batter these. Now, come on, God. We go one behind and just like that. Oh my God. But them days it was just like, like, you've like, you know. Oh, it was a confidence, wasn't it? You poke the bay now. He's done that. He's the worst thing you could have done. That cup final. Cos obviously we just won. The cup and the cup, and we were all ready to lead champions. I remember being in Stammore in the pub, so we'd go, we'd driven to Stammore, and we'd gone through a pub, and we were getting the training to Wendley. That's right when we were your kid, you know, when we were in the pub in a pub's pack, and the build-up's on and all of that stuff. And there's United fans in there, and we were singing, and we'd come forth in the two horse race, cos they were blits, and they looked like they were on the challenge. Do you have miles ahead, Wendy? Do you, yeah. And all this, like, I'm going, I'm thinking, three-nil, three or four-nil. Cos they were, they were just, you know, they were all right, but they weren't like, they weren't a force at all, were they? No, no. Oh, my God. And then going into Wendley and standing on the tunnel end, and up steep, and coming up, was boiling off day as well. You know, it was overcast, but it was boiling. Just no time, thinking diesel beaters, no time. But we weren't our normals, radiated the post in the first half of the volume. That's right, yeah. And then the sending off wasn't it? But the sending off, it was like, it's all over. It's all over now, this. And then, oh, my God. Day score, and it's just like, I had that backhead, and I feel it graze the bar. It's just in a little bit, literally, the last of time. That's right, yeah, yeah. And then we're getting back on the, we got back on the tube. That was made up before, by the way. Oh, my God. In fact, I will get back on to you. This has become about me. No, it's fine. I'll join it. We're walking down. We got the train. Changing roles. I've got a couple of questions for you. Right now, please. We're coming down, Wembley. We come off the train, the tube, and it's split. So we went over to the right unawm ni. But basically what should have happened was, Evan went on, me and United went the other. So we kind of kind of got us, you'd over to the right. So we come out the tunnel to go on to the thing. At the same time. But we were in the United with the United fans. Someone grabbed my ear from the kids from the United fan, I'm thinking. I'm only a kid. Eleven, twelve, one was right. Thirteen of course. Just grabbed me yet. And I'm thinking. Oh my God. I'm getting filled in. And he like dragged me over there. Evan fans getting smack left right in the centre on this bit. He drags me over to the base. He's like, get him out of here. Oh really? He just went, yeah, yeah. I had a crossing because he had older me yet. You know. I'm like thrown over to the other side. But coming out, we got back on the tube and go on and we've lost. And he's like, oh my God. And there's some fell. And I don't know whether this is the same fell about this fella said to me. It's off like. And I was like, oh God. And he was like mate. He went two out of three on bad. I wonder what. There was that panel wasn't it the next day. Two out of three on bad and all that. You get greedy don't you? One out of, one out of bleeding. Ten. Be nice now. But you do think it's never going to end. You just thought it was that was it, didn't you? And that's how to watch football. But it's funny. I mean, loads of sort of kids that have been born in the last sort of twenty odd years. I mean, like my lads, you know, they've grown up in an era of, you know, we live down south before we moved out of the U.S. You know, Chelsea city coming on the scene. Liverpool, obviously. But you know, they've stuck with it. You know, they've done. And I haven't had to try hard. You know, it's been part of. It's like my dad, you know, it's just part of it. You know, sometimes when you're not in the city, you're going off there, you know, just do a little bit more. But you know, we had, we've still got our season ticket. So we used to come up every week. So, you know, we quickly got into the routine. And like they, they, they mad blues now trying to convert everybody out there. So. I mean, that's superb. Cos I'm like that. I'm like that. That's shitty. You're good. You know, he's a season ticket holder. Like, he's like, shut up that. I'm like. Cos I'm looking at it. I'm thinking. Oh my God. A life of pain ahead of you son. A life of pain. Yeah. He's old as the elder. So I've just been there. He's just like, no. What football completely? Or. So he hasn't chosen another team now. So that's good. No God, no. We went up for about twenty five, thirty games or whatever. And he was just like. Not for me. And I made up. Cos it's just less stress. If he was stressed as well as me. And then Jack off me misses and killed us. Missed it doesn't like forty. He wouldn't have it any other way. Don't mean to be great. No. He wouldn't have it any other way. So you moved down to London. Yeah. With work after two. Yeah. I was doing that. And you've just said you were coming back up. So how did you then move over to, you moved over to Chicago? Over to the US, yeah. Well it was a work thing again. Yeah. So we, you know, we got asked to go over there for, you know, for a little spell and see what it was like. Again, it was all work related. So we said, yeah, come on. We'll be a bit of an adventure. How big are the decisions then? Well, I just suppose you've already moved out to Liverpool. Yeah, but it is massive. Cos obviously, you know, you're moving to a completely different country. Obviously, you know, they speak the same language and everything. And, you know, my missus is, you know, where dad was in the forces when she was young. So she was used to sort of, you know, she lived in different parts of Europe and stuff. So, you know, she was well up for it. You know, family, you know, it's a massive decision. You know, it's not as though you're in Spain. You can hop on a plane for a couple of hours and come back. So, yeah, it was a big decision. We felt it was the right one and, you know, a chance to give the kids. Were the kids okay with it? They were actually, yeah. I remember we sat them down to say, look, you know... Were they born here in Liverpool? No, they were born in London. They were born in South Cross London. We'd already lived down there then. But I remember I was sitting and saying, look, you know, we've been given an opportunity and we want to talk to them. Their immediate response was, are we going to Spain? Cos we've got a lot of friends out in Spain and stuff. Yeah. So, they were like that. So, they were like, oh, no, no. It's not Spain. It's a bit further away. But they were fine, you know, and very excited about it. Got wrapped up in it quite quickly. And we were able to go out there and do a bit of a wreck here. So, we made that. I'm like a massive, you know, experience. So, we exposed them to a few U.S. sports and stuff. So, that was really good. But, you know, moving over, you know, I think I've told you this before, that one of the first things is like, where does the Everton fix come from? Yeah. You know, you hear and I've read over the years about sort of this North American following and what it's like. But, you know, it's like, where can I watch? Where can I watch them? How do I watch it? What channels do we need to get? Who else is there? You know, that's us. So, that was pretty high on the agenda. Yeah, it's got to be, isn't it? So, we did. So, yeah, we found this place about seven miles north of the city. So, we're a bit further north in, you know, in some of the suburbs, called A.J. Hudson's. Okay. So, it's owned by Blue. First time I walked in there, there was a 25, 30-foot flag that said, Chicago, Toffees, right on the side of the bar. So, I thought, look, I think we'll be all right. We'll be all right here. Run by a guy called Jamie Hale, who actually first started the supporters' group with somebody called Diana Machanali, who is a Chicagoan, but had visited the city, and I'll tell you a bit of that in a minute. And that's been going for 20 years now. This year is our 20th anniversary, as a Chicago brilliant. So, it's amazing how sort of sustained it can be. But yeah, Jamie, it's a football pub. So, you know, there's, you know, a little bit of memorabilia from all sorts of different clubs. There's a red corner. You know, so, and then our bit is sort of in, there's like a back bar where there's, you know, it's just full of evidence stuff. There's a blue corner there. And it's great. So, yeah. So, that's now, I mean, when we were in Maidenhead, we used to drive up every other Saturday, you know, for our season tickets. That was like, you know, one or three hours. So now, our match routine is driving down. It's driving down to the ball. It takes us about 45 minutes. That's still a commitment, isn't it? So, it's still a commitment. I mean, it is, you know, it is when there's a 12 o'clock kickoff. I was going straight, yeah, when it's the early ones. Yeah, yeah, it is. I mean, it's not as bad as the, you know, it's on the West Coast. I think you've shat here, haven't you? You've just shat it off on the mat. It's dark and it's pitch black. I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. I mean, it's not too bad. There's me mown on 20 minutes left. I know. In the winter, yeah, it can be pretty brutal. Yeah. And like the West Coast blues, I mean, they're up at like, four-eight kickoffs for them. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, we quickly got into there and I mean, first time took the lads down, obviously, you know, we were all, they were kitted out in there. You had your full kit on, come on. I had my full kit on. My shinny's, yeah. My shinny's as well, yeah. My tie-ups. And this first, this voice. All right lads, how are you? And it was a guy called Stuart Greer who was the chair of the group at the time from Hayton. Straight over, made us feel at home, told us how it all worked, introduced us to everybody. And that was it. You know, it just has now become a permanent fixture of what we do. Make me elder someplace or sometimes we can't get down there all the time. And it's brilliant. It's a really, really great group of people, mixture of expats. And then Americans, we've even had, you know, last season we got a big influx of Columbians as well, obviously with, you know, with the Hammers sign. So, but yeah, it's been really growing. And we've, you know, we've tried to put events on and tried to grow the membership and get things going. But yeah, it's great. I mean, I've had some really great times there. Times when I wish I'd have been at Godderson, but actually experiencing things with that out there has also made it special. I mean, I remember, you know, Duncan's first game. You know, I loved Duncan growing up. I mean, he was like one of my, after Graeme Sharp, you know, he was one of my heroes. You know, and I can remember the tension in the bar. You know, when we'd had a couple of drinks, you know, 9, 10 o'clock in the morning. But you know, I remember explaining to people how important this was going to be to him. Knowing how much he was invested in the club. The Chelsea game. The Chelsea game. Sorry, yeah. You know, his first one. And then obviously, you know, the way it went. I mean, I think there was people in tears and all sorts. I remember getting back in. It was a cab because I didn't drive that day. And I can remember speaking to my dad and like, well and open, you know, because you want to be the one. The emotion. But I'll never forget that. And it was even a brilliant experience. Obviously it was nothing like being at Godderson, of course. But you know, just to be part of that with the rest of the gang. You know, they would all sort of, you know. They get it. Yeah, they do. They do. You know, there's some that fall into it. You know, everyone's heard the Tim Howard story. Yeah. You know, and that is still a massive pull. You know, clearly. But I mean, there's one guy I know, Mike, you know, and he, you know, he researched. He wants to know the history of the club. He wants to know about the difference in the city, the politics of the city. You know, and he, you know, he's like, that's the club for me. That's it. And, you know, he's now, he's one of us and always will be. So, yeah, it's been great. And it helps you settle in as well, you know, when you've got something a bit familiar on. When you've got that, yeah. It helps you sort of stay, you know, stay connected. Did you miss this just like? Well, you know, it's not as though it was a new thing. No, no. Everton isn't a new thing. So, you know, we were found out. And actually, you know, on the emotional side as well, you know, it's a way for me to stay connected back to the city. Obviously the team, but also me dad. Yeah, of course. You know, it allows me to keep talking to there. So, yeah, it's been great. Great. So, you're still trying to promote Everton over there, still trying to grab new people? All the time. There'll be loads there, loads of Chicago people. I don't know. Chicago, Tonyns, I don't know. I tell you, everybody, we've got everybody. Canvassing. Everybody canvassing. We've got stickers all over the city. You know, so we're trying to do that. So, yeah, I mean, look, and I think there's a real movement that's building out there now. I mean, it's been created over a long, long time and, you know, people like David Keart and Marshall and others that sort of got Evan USA going, you know, those foundations now have been really built on. And it's serious. It's nice to see the club invest in, it's got a strategy. It's invest in time. It's invest in resources in sort of building that fan base. And, you know, I think this year, you know, momentum has really started to build. There's a lot of excitement. There's some real, like, practical things that have happened. You know, what I've been trying to do is sort of bring together, sort of better connect the supporters groups. I think there's probably 50 plus, some affiliated, some are just not. But what I've been trying to do is sort of better connect those groups so we can sort of have a better idea of what we want to do, what is going to make us grow our membership, what is going to get the Evan word out there, what we can do. And I feel that sort of what we've really developed in the last, probably the last year or so. But it's getting serious. We're getting organised. We've got structure where, in constant dialogue with the club on things that they could do out there, sharing ideas. They've been very receptive to all of that. So they should be, by the way. So they should be because it's for them ultimately, isn't it? For you, but it's for them, you know. It's kind of grow a global brand, trying to take your club into a global brand. To all hands on deck, don't you? It's easier to do when you're successful. We are unsuccessful, so therefore you've got to use every resource possible. I mean, we saw that this summer, Evan going off to all hand to play in the Florida Cup, and you were there. Some still devastated that we couldn't be there. Gutted, my favourite place with my club would have been incredible. But it was great to see. It was great to see videos being shared the night before the first game. Everyone's in the pub, and you can see Evan's songs, and you can see people's faces, and people who did go on it, speaking to Jamie Ferguson on Twitter. It was amazing seeing people saying, what an unbelievable experience the first time I've ever seen my team and with these people and all that. So what was it like to experience? I mean, all of what you've said was absolutely bang on. As I say, and there was quite a lot of restrictions that we could do. I think normally you'd be there with open training sessions. There'd be lots of interaction with the squad and all that sort of stuff. The club obviously couldn't do that because of Covid, but it did, and again, we set up a group of the supporters' groups to put a little working club together and work with the club on what they could do. On the events, they haven't no Lando group and Laura and the work that they did to do that event in the pub at the tailgate was amazing, but what was great about it is that, and as you say, just having a team out in the US again was just amazing. But you know, when I think, you're right to think there's been a lot of criticism, I think some of it's deserved, but they didn't seem to really build on the momentum of Howard and McBride and Donovan and all the rest of them. Y prechi and Joe Maxmore and all that. So to have them back in there was absolutely amazing. And then of course, you've been speaking to people over the last two years, largely over Zoom and what have you, or on Twitter or phone calls and all the rest of it. And then you're suddenly with them and you're sort of, it was just fantastic. And the events themselves, I remember, so it was the Saturday night, it was like the welcome bit in this Irish pub in Orlando, which is where the Orlando blues meet and watch the game. You know, walked in there, and it was just, you know, like the place was bouncing. It was just two floors, there was a second room, that was all full of Evitonians. And it was just brilliant. It gives you a bit of dose of home. It was just great to just see everybody out there. And then the tailgate, that was my first experience of a tailgate. I had about seen all these clips ..y'r rau cymdeithasau fel o'r barfyniad. Mae'n fwy o'r bwysig, ond mae'n filw'r rai gwrs oherwydd... ..y'r bwysig yn fan iawn i'r cyfrifiadau... ..y'r bwysig i'r bod yn diwrnod agorodau. Mae'n cyfrifiadau bod y mi yw'r un o'r gwrs... ..yn gyfnod o'r bwysig... ..y'r pwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig... ..y'r bwysig yma. Mae'n gweithio i'r gwrs o'r Llandog sydd eich Llywodraeth... Mae'rdyma'n wych yn ôl i'r dynod fel itu. Metod gwaith o bai'r cyrMatiau Cywm ymddyr i'r newid i'r cysy, Nywethaf! Mae'r awn ieten i'r cyd-dyn nhw. Mae'r gwc yn cywio'r cyd-dyn nhw, fe dydych chi'n gweld chi am leiolaeth i'r cyd-dyn nhw? Mae rhefydd gyda James, mae Ryan, mae'r ddiwedd i'w Deyrnas Sfythu FFED! Mae'r ddaf yn gysty godiol! Mae'n rhaid i'r ddyn nhw. Maen nhw'n gweithio ychydig y lle i mi ddweud o fynd i ddechrau, os yw'r taeth o'r eich meddwl ymlaen o'r blaen. Rhaid i'n teimlo'n dweud i'r dda i sylweddodd yn eu hunain. Rhaid i'n dweud i dda i'n teimlo? Dyna er mwyn i'n cael ei fod yn mynd yn dweud y mae chefnog o'r ddweud o phoedd maen nhw yn eu rhan, mae'r Rhaid i'n ddweud i ddweud, a'r Alex i gyfnogi i ddweud o'r decidedsaeth y bêr agen. Seems like there are different groups from across the US that, you know, Atlanta and Carolinas and Vice City and DC and they're all there together and it was it, capital per pros нес, a llwyddon o wybod e lifecycle. You were going to see Hamas for the first time so there was an extra. You got to see Grey and towny, about one of Trophy. We won a cup?! Come on... Won a cup and you got to see if it was. John Joe Kenny's penenca. Yn ni'n cwrwch. Eftan ddaf yn drwy. Oedd yna maen nhw'n penenca ar gael y sgwr. Onid y gwael, Samy. Mae'n dwylo'n amysgrifio. Mae'n gweithio amddangos i'r ysgrifio. Mae'n gweithio amddangos i'r ysgrifio. Rwy'n ei wneud. Rwy'n ei ddweud i'r ysgrifio? Mae'n ddweud i'r ysgrifio. Mae'n ddweud i'r ysgrifio. Mae'n ddweud i'r ysgrifio. Mae, erbyn dyna'n bod oedon nhw ddim yn cydweithio rheoli'r ei ddylan. Mae'r ddaf hanes annib, fe eisiau'r pethau, 25 oed yn gynnwys. Da, rydyn ni'n ei ydych chi'n fifio'r ffaith, a fyddwn ni'n gennym arnynt, a'i fod yn ei ddweud o blwyddyn yn gwleidio i'n meddwl amser. Fe oeddwn i'n gwneud i'w mynd i ddweud drws iawn, yn angen am y fan hyfforddiwn, yn unrhyw quechid, fe wnaeth hyn. Mae'n rhaid eisiau i fydd yn lleol arnynt, … ac mae gen i'r cwrs a chylaid. Mae'n ystafell o'r lle i chi'n gweld i'r pawb o'r siwr. Mae'n meddwl ar hynny. Mae'n gweithio'r llyffordd o'r hynny. Mae'n gweld i'r gwbl o'r lle i chi, ac mae'n gweithio'r pwyd. Mae'n gweithio'r gweithio'r gweithio, yna'n gyfliwch yn yma. Mae'n gweithio'r gweithio, ond rydych chi'n lle i chi. Mae'n gyffredinol i'r Llyfridd, yma'n gymryd, yma. a wnaeth i chi yw'r awddau allan. So, ar gyfer rhai o'r gweithliadau sy'n ei wneud gweld y gwasanaeth yma i Gweithredu gan'r gweithredu ar hynny wedi chi'n gwneud a wille, mae yna ein organ sydd yn dweud y maef- verr ifanc aredon, mae'r gweithredu ar Gweithredu a'r Gweithredu o'r Gweithredu, o'r saffl iawn i'r gwaith yma i gweithredu arをingon y Llywodraeth, i'n hynny'n gweithredu ar awddau, i'n gwneud iddyn nhw, ..y'r hyn o'r clwb yn ymddangos i'r ymdodd ymddangos. Felly mae'n wneud i gael. A at yna'r drwsion gweld yma. Ond ma'n llei'r nôl i'r hyn o'r llyfridgau llei'r cyffredinol.. ..y'r cyfrindigau. Ychydig yma'r Frans, yw'r cyfrindigau. Mae David yn ymddangos. Mae'n gweld eich rôl yn eu cyfrindigau. Rôl eich cyfrindigau. Rôl eich cyfrindigau. Ie, i'r cyfrindigau. Maen nhw'n oson, fel fMAN, oes yr un arno i'w hwnnw— – Fy nid. Twch yn ni'n gw am y cwestiwn. – Faf arnynt yn y bêl mewn… – Ffyn yn e'n gwneud ti'n gweithio'r wrthgwrn, – Felly drwy'n dd постоянно, – Felly mae eich hollu. Felly dyna chi'n gweithio fel hynny, roedd y peth yn iechyd o'r hanesiff ei fod yn y cwestiwn, mae'r eu wneud yn cwestiwn o pheswyr, mae'n hollu'n ddysgu. – Faf arno, mae'n hollu o phosb overall. And obviously like I say, hope to build on that for the future it will be incredible especially when I can get the thing that I've got in me add which they weren't able to do but take a couple of teams, off the women's team, and take one of the kids whether it's the 23s or whatever, and play games over a weeks period or whatever and put the train and so I think if you had like a surgery, they called Andy a surgery. Ond oedd y gallwn gwneud ond, yn dweud o'r dwyloch, mae'n rhoi'n gweithio'r ffordd. Mae'n rhoi'n dweud i'r dweud o'r ffordd o'r community. Felly mae'n meddwl gyda'r rhaglenu ar y cyd-draeig o'r hoffa o'r hwrs, o'r ffordd o'r camp yn ym 3 ddeithas, a'r peth oedd yn gweithio'r gwaith o'r dweud o'r dweud o'r dwyloch. Felly mae'n rhaid o'r ffordd o'r gweithio. But it was very, you couldn't have done it this time. It just it was 360's. But whoever can start doing that way you can evolve on people as well. And there's some really good signs that that's the stuff that they're going to be doing some. And I think, there's already whispers about what might next year look like. And who else can be involved. Which are the parts of the teams and why have you, which is great. And obviously they've kicked off the soccer schools thing. So they did do some of that. Some of that, I think they sort of trial that this year. So I think they did a number of states. I think they're looking to roll that out nationwide. Felly mae'r bobl yw'r phoedd yn gwneud, dyna'r rai oherwydd yn gwybod eu bod yn ei weld yn y ffordd. Mynd yn ymwneud ym mwy, ym mwy fydd yn eu gweithio'r bod yn ynnig yw'r pwysig sydd wedi'i gwybod. Felly mae'r bwysig yn bwysig yn ei gweithio'r bobl, yma. Yr hynny mae'r gweithio'r bwysig ar y bwysig yma, ym Mhwy. Mae'r panhwyng gymunedau, mae'r bwysig ar y chwmau. Mae'r gwahanol o'r gweithio'n gwybod yw'n dda. Mae'n gweithio'n gwahanol o'r gwahanol, ac efallai'n dwylo'r grwpio ar y grwpio'r bwysig. Mae'r bwysig yn cael eu bod ni wedi'u gweld arall o'r gweithio. Mae'n dweud yn cael eu gwahanol o'r bwysig, oherwydd o'r gweithio'n gweithio. Mae'r bwysig yn gwneud fy mod i'r bwysig, oherwydd o'ch gweithio hynny. Ond mae'n gweithio'n gweithio yn cael eu gweithio. A hynny'n gwneud y gallwch chi'n gweithio o'r cyffredin gwybod, ac mae'n ddim yn ysgolwch arweinyddol. Mae'n gweithio yn gweithio'r gwahodd yn gyfan gwybodol ar gyfer'u cael hynny. Ie, mae'n gallu'n gwneud hynny'n gweithio'r gweithio'r gweithio. Mae'n gwneud yn gobeithio i gael, ac mae'n gweithio'n gweithio i gael. Mae'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio i gael, mae'n gweithio i gael i gael i gael i gael i gael. The club did it and probably all did it. You are not like you were here. But we probably all levelled in. All of our fans live within five miles of the ground. You know, it's all for and I think the club liked it. Being in the center, we don't want this. We don't want this. The reality is it was very short-sighted. To grow globally, to grow commercially, to have more money. Felly mae'n unrhyw o'r amserion i gael eu ddwg amweddeniad, mae'n ddoch yn credu Mae Gwaith Erref. Mae'n ddoch yn ddifod am ddifod ddydd, mae mae nhw wedi fy MURM. Mae'na sicrhau datblygu eich dd talurau yn ffadgrifau am y Gwyl aeth gennym ni i hyn o'n gwneud i ni weithio i gyd yn ei gafael lle yn ei gwasanaeth yn eistedd. Felly mae'n gwneud i gyrraeth, mae'n dechrau i gyd, mae'n gwneud i gyrraeth ans oedd o'i ddweud i chi gyda'i gwerthu. ac yn gyda'r terreg i gael yna fynd ymgylchedd ar gwaith yn ymgaredd, fel ffan yn yr unig fod yn dweud dwi'n g nhembwys. Rwy'n fawr, rydych chi'n gwrs. Rwy'n fawr fel at yn dweud, rwy'n gweithio at ein bod yn mynd i'n gweithio ymgylchedd fel yw fwy o'r ysgrifiadau sy'n mynd i ddigonwch, fel da ym immigrationion wedi'u gweithio eisiau fel gweithio a mynd o'r ddweud. Wrth gweithio ychydig eithaf yw amser, A dwi sgynt i'n addysg beth os y cwymod yn i. Beth y gallwn o'n meddwl, ond hefyd, rhaid i'n gweld fawr hefyd o'r olwgol yma. Rhaid i'n gweld, ond, yn dweud, ond rhaid i'n gweld, ac mae'n odd i'n gweld bwysig. Ac mae'n cael ei ffordd iawn, ac mae'n edrych ystod 50 gwirio yn rhywbeth, ac mae'n rhaid i'n meddwl na dechrau i beth o beth o beth o'u mewn gwirio, ac mae'n fydda'i'r clipon yn fawr i'r gweithio. Felly, y gallwn i'n dweud yn y llwg, mae'n gweithio'n gweithio'n grwp. Felly, yma y gallwn i'n meddwl yn ymwneud, mae'n dderfyn amdano'n amser. Mae'n angen yn rhan o'r 4 o'r cloch yn y môr, a oedden nhw'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n dweud yn y llwyddon cyfnodd y rhai. Mae'n fawr i'r acymig. Mae'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio, ac mae'n gweithio'n gweithio, Ie, mae'n ddwy i'ch gilydd o'r ddweud, a'i ddweud i'ch gyngor yma'r lle'r dweud. Felly mae'r ddweud o'r gilydd o'r ddweud i'r ddechrau mewn Ym Mhau Amwy, bod mae'n cael y cyffredinol yn ymwyfyr, mae'n ddiddorol. Felly mae'n ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud. Mae'n ddweud i'r ddweud i'n ddweud i'r ddweud, Dwi wedi cael ei gweithio arnyn nhw, ac byddwn ni'n gallu colli ar y cemysgofydau, yna'r ffordd strongest ar gyfer y rhowf. Felly erbyn i ddod i'n deall sydd yn gwneud o gwneud o'r ffordd, ac mae'r ddechrau yn rhaid, ond mae'n gweithio'r ffordd. Yr unrhyw gweithbeth, mae'n gweithio'r gweithio'r bwysig unig. Mae'r bwysig o'r blwysig, dwi'n gweithio'r ffordd ffans. Mae'r ffordd eithaf. Dwi'n rhai... Rydyn ni'n ei wedi'u mewn gwahnogi, mewn hyn ac r aussi i'r clywed yn ôl hwnneul, ac oedd n darkness fel ar gwaith uniau a'r enŷr Stand Few曾ws ar gyfer yng Ngwymiad Asia, mewn fath yng Ngôl yn ystilb yn y dyfnydd ei gwoED yn f improb mwy yn f pleasanol, ac mae'r 12erau yma. Mae'n ddap o'r cymaint. Mae'n dweud bod yn gwneud ym mwyaf. Mae'n gwybod i'r ffawr hyn o'n ddod ffordd. Mae'n cymaint o'r llunio'r tyfnol yma. Mae'n cael ei wneud o'r ddifflwynt i'r gweithio. Mae'n cael ei wneud o'r ffawr o'r ffwynt o'r lle. Mae'n cael ei wneud o'r ffwynt o'r lle. Mae'no. Mae'n cael ei wneud o'r hollol i ddechrau'n ddod o'i gwybod i'r llunio. Cymru, fel ydych chi fod yn ymddangos i chi, fel yw ei bod yn cael cael cael'u gampain. Rwy'n rhaid i'n mynd i'n ffordd yn gwybod yma, ydych chi'n mynd i'n ffrwng o'r cyfrif yn debyg o'r hyn i gael gwrthwyr. Dych chi'n gweithio'r cyfrif, sydd wedi'i gael gyrthwyr yn gweithio'n gwrthwyr i chi gael gyrthwyr, a'r gwneud hynny, ond hynny rydw i chi'n gweithio i chi gael gyrthwyr o'r cyfrif, a'r gwasanaeth y gallwn gwneud y cwmpas oherwydd gennym. Mae wedi cael ei fodwch, mae'n gallu'n gweithio. Mae'n cael ei fodwch, mae erioed yn rhan o'r gweithio. Felly mae'n gwneud â'r gweithio. Mae'n gwneud ystafell o'r gweithio, oherwydd eich fodwch ymlaen. Mae'n gwneud o'r gweithio, mae'n gwneud. Mae'n gwneud ddod fideb i gynnwys ac allan. Mae'n gwneud i gael ei wneud. Mae'n gwneud i'r gweithio, mae'n gwneud o'i amser. Cyngorodd, yw'r fenywod yn fawr i'r club a'r ffordd o'n gwybodaeth, ffantiai'r ysgol, a dwi'n ffordd o'n ddim yn ddigon, ac rydyn ni'n credu ffawr ond mae'r ddweud yn roi'n ffordd o'r ysgol, ac mae'n dwi'n ei dda i'n bwysig i ei ddweud ar y sefydliadau a'r gwybod, ond mae'n amlwg o'n gwybod, mae'n ddweud 40 mewn ymddangos yn y dyfod i'r gwasg gan gweithio'r gweithio'r Mae'r cyfnodd y'r cyflwydd dros ystafell, nid ydych yn newid y stadion, я gallwch gofynru, i chi'n ei fod yn gallu'r cyflwydd, ac mae'n cael eu cyfnodd fel cael eu cyflwydd ac mae'r rhaid, yn ystafell, o'r blwysig. mae'n swyddfa mewn cyd-fwrdd, fyddwn i'n gwneud cynllunio eich ffynifith, eich bwyntol cynllunio o gyllid y ffynge. Rwy'n meddwl i'n cerddol o'r mewn cyd-fwrdd gw00r i'r mwyaf. Fy oedd ychydig hwnnw i'r ffordd ei ddefnyddio. Felly, mae wedi rhoi g Facultyg i'r Llyfrgell yma. Felly, fynd i'n ei crof, er mwyn i'r chygo, ac nid o gwyddoedd yn y meddwl. Fyddwn i'n credu ni'n ein cyfain i'n dddwn i'r bod yna, I know what we're trying to do but there's actually things that might better suit that market and better engage people so let us help you understand that and then hopefully you can come up with a solution. So yeah it's been great and obviously I've got a heavy focus on North America because I'm sort of lived there but we've formed through the forum now sort of like little regional subgroups so we've brought together some of the European groups together and again WhatsApp chats and Zoom meetings and all that sort of stuff. We're trying to do the same sort of like Asia Pacific region as well so and it's right I mean one of the big live issues at the moment is retail. I think we talk about this every time I talk to you but my first meeting at the forum I was like people can't buy a shirt, they can't get anything, it's taking ages for things to be delivered. It comes from the UK if it's not the right item or they've packed the wrong thing, you've then got to pay to send it back, people can't be asked to do that so they don't bother, they just engage and you've lost someone. So we've been working sort of with the club and through their partnerships team to try and improve that. I mean pleased to say there's now going to be sort of a bit of a trial basis but there's a select number of stores across the US now where there'll be in store merchandise. Wow, that's good. So I don't think it's all going to be available tomorrow but I think in the course of the next number of weeks. So again that's a bit of progress. Again sort of the distribution out there as well so people aren't waiting for stuff to be delivered from the UK. In the UK there's now a number of US based distributors that will carry stock so things will get there quicker and what have you, the clubs announced some more distribution parts with the likes of Walmart so it'll be easier to get stuff. So lots to do, lots to do but at least there's some signs of progress and of course the other big thing at the moment is the way we've been doing with the Irish Toffees so I don't think you've seen some of the online noise but there's just nowhere where they're able to buy anything at the moment and we've got an Irish captain and what have you so, we've been trying to wait with them in the club as well to advance that. Now is that moving forward? It is moving forward, it's not moved as forward as fast as anyone would like but we know that there's a couple of things now that are in the works that hopefully will sort of move that on. So that's what we're trying to do from an international perspective is just make those connections and the North American Toffees, we get together on a monthly basis now, the supporter group leads and we share what the club's up to and if there's anything they want to raise we then take that back. We're involved in the planning of various events, this membership thing, we've now put again another little group together to work out what's happening. Again credit to the club, they're the engagement team, they were on a call with us to like 2am UK time, do the weekly again listening to what people are saying. Good, good. Let's say you know. Only now and again, you have to do it, that's good. Going alright but it's, as I say, more to do. Any bit of progress is good isn't it as we move forward but let's finish with just how you think the season's going so far then obviously. We had a chat about Raffa beneath us, I don't think he was on everyone's number one on the list but he's come in and it seems to be going alright at the moment, doesn't it make a good start? Yeah I don't think anybody could complain with where we are at the moment, I think you're right. I was at the second screening of Howard's Wiles last night in Waterloo and Trevor Steven did a Q&A afterwards and he was asked the same question about Raffa and what the thing and he was quite interesting because he was like, look you know. I know he wasn't everybody's first choice but if you look at maybe some of the other candidates, he said he personally could understand why the club opted for him in the current circumstances and he sort of asked for his shower hands on. I don't know there's only 200 people in there but I think three-quarter of them sort of said they'd get behind Raffa but yeah. I mean look I think the start's been fine hasn't it? The manager that makes notes. You know he's very active on the sidelines, he's constantly talking to them and barking instructions and what have you. And I think we love that as fans don't we? That engage, you don't want to see someone not doing anything, you want to feel like it matters to them like it does to us so I think that's been good. But it's early days? Yeah of course. It's early days, what are we with? At the time I record them we've only actually played four games, they're about to play Burnley, this will go out after we've played Burnley. But it's looking alright. Yeah and I think he needed that start didn't he because I think it's right, if and when we do it's a sticky patch I think it might be a different atmosphere but you know what strikes me is he's got thick skin. He's been there apart from you know some of the clubs, he's managed some of the biggest clubs around the place. He seems to be very clear about what he wants to do, he seems very detailed, very deliberate about what he says and what he does. So I mean look he's here now and you know let's just hope that things stay good on the pitch. He wins us a trophy, we'll all be delighted. There we go, Florida Cup was the first one. Well that's it, he's alright, he wants something so we can follow up with another piece if you love me. I just think it is what it is and we get behind him, he's working hard, the players actually said that before I feel like he's better suited to this squad of players than my Carlo until he ever was. So I think you've got well-classed players that maybe Carlo's your man, with this squad I think that's his man. He's operated in some similar circumstances and he's with the tight pair of strings and we look at Newcastle and some of the other clubs. So maybe he can get a tune out of some of the players that actually the last number of managers haven't been able to. Make sure they make the investments not look as bad as what they were. That's what it comes down to doesn't it? Absolutely. People like I've already started the season really well, you can get him playing well and then all of a sudden people go you know what, he's decent. Where people will want to do on that season, he could start changing people's minds on certain players. Long make and sing you. Absolutely. Keep winning football. Is there anything else? We've had a good show. No, it's been great to be here. Anything else going on that you've now? I really enjoyed it. The only other thing I'd say at the forum is we've been quite active in this work about the fan-led review about trying to get in. So I'm not just sort of abroad but here about trying to follow up on some of the consultation that the forum did but also with a group of different sort of haven't the stakeholders. So you know some of the support groups that are affiliated to the FSA, the Supporters Club committee, the Disabled Support Association, Heritage Society shareholders. So we did a lot of consultation with them sort of just in the time after the shitty sex and we sort of presented those findings back to the football club. And we're now carrying on that work now. One of the biggest issues that came back was how can we make sure that basically there's a proper voice at the board level for football fans. So there's a lot of work going on behind the scenes now to sort of get more input onto that and then take a proposal back to the club. What's been great is that different parts of the fan base and the stakeholders have been coming together to sort of unify around what that might look like. So still a bit more to do but I think it's really, really important that we keep pushing it at least. Absolutely. Ultimately it'll be for the club to decide what we want to do but what's been great is just how the different groups have come together. Cos we need to make sure that our interests are looked after. Most of it on me is sure that they'll be with the slice x or whatever you want to call them. I like your name better but yeah there you go. Hopefully that way can come to fruition and we can protect the game for us as fans cos it does feel like it's been going away from us, running away from us for far too long. What the pandemic shown is not really the same without us so hopefully we can wrestle a little bit of that power back. Completely. There is just a little bit but it's important and we show when the fans did make a bit of a fuss, things stopped quickly but I don't think that issue's gone away by the way I think. No, it's going to come back and that's why it's important that we've got a genuine voice there cos I think that's the way in which we're going to make sure that we don't get shafted in the future. Tony, big thanks for joining us. Pleasure. Thanks for having me in. Nice to see you. Nice to have you in the studio. Enjoy the game tonight. Under the lights. Under the lights and you'll be watching this after we've already played under the lights so I'm sure we will have enjoyed it. There you go, make sure to check out Tony at Chicago Evertonings on Twitter. Give the video a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't. Let us know anything Tony's discussed here about plans in North America and if you are a North American fan you've been impacted by that event. Let us know how you've gone on. Thanks for watching. We'll see you later.