 Good morning, and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Burns, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is a commission's weekly online event, webinar, webcast, online show. We do this here every live, every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Central time, but if you are unable to join us, that's fine. We also record our show every week and post the recording to our website afterwards, so you will always be able to go there and see any of the previous shows we've done that you weren't able to see on Wednesdays. We do a mixture of things here, presentations, book reviews, many print training sessions, demos of various products and services. Basically anything a library related, we are happy to have on the show. We have a Nebraska Library Commission staff that sometimes do presentations, but sometimes we bring in guest speakers as we have this morning. On the line with us remotely from just west of here Hastings Public Library is Jake Rundle. Hi, Jake. Good morning. Good morning. He's there. Is your title there, Technology Librarian, or what is your, is that what you're called out there? Technology London is my official title. Okay, and what does that exactly mean? Well, it's kind of the catch-all. Sounds nice and vague and open and ended. I'm in charge of collection development. I'm in charge of the ILS. I oversee the circulation coordinator, and then she oversees the desk, so I'm kind of the de-backed all over the place. Yeah, cool. Ooh, nice. That's all fun. And Jake's with us this morning to talk about, as you can see there on the slide, the Central Nebraska Digital Co-op, which a group of libraries getting together to do some discounts on purchasing certain products. And I'll just hand it over to you to explain it all to everyone. Sounds good. Well, good morning all. Like Krista said, nice Jake Rundle, Technology Librarian at Hastings Public Library, and I just want to talk about the Central Nebraska Digital Co-op. It's our little group of libraries. We're actually 20 small now. It's just kind of a small group compared to when you talk to some libraries who do other consortial work. But we're just a group of libraries that work with vendors to get the best deal for all of us so that products and services mostly offered digitally can be made affordable for everybody. So the one page of history that I have is in 2013, Karnagarnal and Hastings and Holdrich got together at my request because I wanted Xenio magazines from my library, but it was too expensive to pay the platform and pay for the content all by ourselves. So I negotiated with our vendor to let all four of us go together. We would split the content. We'd each play a platform fee, but we'd get more content for less money since we were splitting it. And the other three libraries thought this was a great idea and the vendors said sure, that seems reasonable. The only thing we'll do is say you have to have at least a hundred titles, which we thought, well, that's reasonable because we wanted a big collection anyway. And so we did that for two years, pretty low-key, and then some other libraries east of us outside of Central Nebraska found out about a group and wanted to join in because they were paying through the nose for Xenio and they thought, and they rightfully so said, hey, can we join you? And so we talked with our Record Books Rep and they had no problems with it. So we added Raulston and Papillion and Bellevue in York and Columbus. And I feel like there's one more in there, but I just can't think of what it is, actually. Because we got to ten. North Platt. And then when we added Raulston and Papillion, they also had one-click digital, which is streaming audio through Record Books. They purchased subscription content, so it's about 6,800 Recorded Books downloadable titles that are simultaneously check-outable with a two-week due date. So when they joined, we rolled that product into us as well because they didn't want to lose it and again, we could split the cost of the subscription and make it cheap for everybody. And I'm sure Recorded Books didn't want to lose it either. Lose all those deals with them, yeah. And since then, we've used our group buy-in power. When the state signed deals with EBSCO for all the new databases, some of us who were purchasing novelists on our own didn't have to anymore. So what EBSCO did is said, hey, we'll give you all a discount. The way it worked was they said, hey, we'll give you a discount, but you don't have to participate if you don't want to. So we got the group purchase price for, without having the whole group have to go in. So we got novelists select. I and some other libraries and I believe Carney did. I believe Columbus took us, took up on that. But it was just a nice way for us to get a discounted price at, without having to have the entire group go in. And since then, we've had conversations with people at Hoopla, Midwest Tape. We've had some conversation. I had a webinar the other day with the Gale Virtual Resource Library for their book platform, 3M's Cloud Library, and who's the other one? A few others. Oh, Access360 through Baker and Taylor. So it's just, it's a nice way for us to all get demos and potentially go in together and buy cool digital products to offer our patrons the best for the lowest price. And so the important part of this whole presentation was I was going to show you the kinds of things that we have, because it's always better to show than to just talk for an hour. So the first one I wanted to show was Xenio magazines. So since the other libraries have joined, we have increased the collection from 100, we started with 115 magazines, and now we are up to, I think, 137 to 145. It kind of changes year to year as titles drop off and new titles come on that we want to buy. I like to explain that we have magazine titles for all types, gifted and challenged. We have your Astronomies and your American Crafts, and then we have your, let's see, your Vanity Fairs, your Teen Vogue. I think we have us weekly. It's been a while since I looked. Your Star magazines, so we've got your, yeah, we do have us weekly. So if you want to show Adelgos up in your Charlie Sheens, that's great. We have a number of magazine titles in Spanish languages like Vanidades, USA, and Rolling Stone, and Esquire, and Cosmopolitan, the Mexican or the Spanish language publications of those. Because we wanted to be able to offer a diverse collection for all patrons, and it just worked out really great that we could do it cheaply. The other nice thing is that since we're all sharing the content, we can all buy kind of those specialized titles that we wouldn't have. So we have a diabetic cookbook magazine. We have a skateboarding magazine. We've got the Smithsonian Magazine, and that's just this page. But it's trying to work together to make cheap all the good things. Magazines are simultaneous access, so that means that myself and 6,500 other people in the various communities can all check out Marie Claire and Men's Health, and we can all keep it forever. It lives in the cloud. I can download to a device. I can open up the Xenio app on my iPad, on my phone, and read it there. I can read it here on the web. The great part is that it's really the simultaneous access. Magazines in libraries have a very finite shelf life because they're not printed on the best stuff and they're not that sturdy. It's like 10 times, and then it's lost its cover, and you're taping things together, restapling, and Frankensteining it back to life. So this is a way for us to offer magazines where the people want them, anytime they want them. The other thing I wanted to show with Xenio is our admin portal. So what's great about Xenio admin portal is that I can go into reports, and I can grab my reports for who's joining the service, or I can just get circulation reports. It's excitingly, and also terribly, is when we added the 10 new libraries at the end of October, we added them to Xenio. So they each had their own barcode so that you could create new users. And so the way that most libraries are filtering their circulation checkouts are by barcode. So now it's just a lot more sorting than I'm used to because I have 10 extra library barcodes to dig through. So in this way, can each library see their own statistics then by using that? Yes. Yep, so I just opened it in Excel, which in my Mac has numbers so it's going to be weird. But then I just sort out, see because it has your library's barcode right there. So if I'm 20604, I just find all of those and then I can just get my monthly stats right there. Group monthly stats for the month of October, November, excuse me, holy cow. We checked out 1200 magazines between 20 libraries, which is really healthy circulation for magazines truthfully. The other nice thing is the admin portal lets you add other kinds of filters. We do primarily barcode filtering so that your library's barcode prefix and the length of your barcode can be made so you can create a username. You can also do HTTP referrals. So if you just want someone to be able to sign up by coming from your library's website, you can do that. If you want to have an IP address range, be your filtering, you can do that. And then, that's not the fun one. The other great thing is Record Books makes a lot of marketing stuff available. They have users guides made up so you can just print those straight off and give them straight to your patrons. They have an entire marketing site you can go to and pull up posters and stickers and shelf talkers and desk mats and the whole shebang essentially. To explain to your patrons that you've added this great service and that this is how you access it. Additionally, we put our Zineo collection in alphabetical order because it's just easier for all of us. But from here, you can also rearrange your order to be whatever you want it to be. And if you join the group and you already have Zineo, then you get rolled in as a child library under the parent of the co-op. So you actually keep your own admin portal and you just get a whole bunch of magazine titles added to you. It works out really well because you don't have to do a lot of sorting because you still have your own dedicated website to get there. Krista, can I kind of go out and turn in and ask if there's any questions about Zineo? No, of course. Does anybody have any questions about Zineo? Yeah, does anybody have any questions? You can type into the questions section of your go-to-webinar interface if you have any questions about this service. Because as you said, you're going to show each of the services that you guys have in the group. Nobody's typed in anything yet. But if they do, I will be sure to interrupt you and let you know. Perfect. The other product we have is one-click digital downloadable streamable audiobooks. Kind of the theme of the co-op is to access items that don't have a weight limit on it. So for instance, we all have access to Overdrive, but since we shared that with the billion other libraries in the state of Nebraska, there's times where you want to check something up, but you have to put it on hold. Not the end of the world, but sometimes inconvenient if you wanted something right now. I'm waiting for an audiobook and I've been waiting for two whole weeks and it's killing me. And that's not even a long time. Yeah. So I'm just going to wait patiently for it to get here. But the nice thing about a majority of the one-click titles is that they are all simultaneously accessible and downloadable. So again, you and me and Krista and everyone else could download the Discourse for Mr. Ravenhurst and listen to it and then it'll return when you're done. There's a small collection of materials in one click that are not simultaneous access because libraries who have a recorded book stand in order where physical product comes to their library have the option to bundle it with the digital for about 10% more off the physical price. For 10% more of that, you get the digital copy and those are one-to-one. So like we have, I think that's how you spell it, Google 50 Shades of Grey again. There it is, to that. So Grey is a bundled title. It's checked out right now, so I have to place it, oh it's not checked out right now, awesome. So I can check that out. Once I check it out, if you went to try to check it out it would say there's a hold on it. I can check it out anywhere from one to 14 days. And then I have the option to renew it as long as no one else is on hold for it. The other great part about the two collections that we buy for one click digital is that they are always adding titles. We have the adult collection and the children's collection, which essentially means the adult collection is about 5,000 audiobooks at this point and the children's collection is somewhere around 28 at this point. So they're pushing closer to 8,000, 9,000 audiobooks all the time. It's not doing. But it's not like I have to pay more. I pay my subscription fee every quarter. They add their additional audiobook content and that's just available for me. They're slowly making a lot of the recorded books back catalog available. And can you add specific titles if you want ones that aren't automatically being added or is it just what they want to put in there? No. There is the ability, I mean everything that recorded books could get you physical or digital. You can also purchase. I think Glass House is one. Somebody needed it for a book report they were doing and the physical copy was checked out and our audio copy was checked out. So I got on here. It was inexpensive. I bought it. My library paid 40 bucks for it. And so, again, it's a one-to-one copy. It's not the simultaneous access. But if a library wanted to go in and purchase a run of a series that their patrons liked and would want to see, you share that content with the group. But it's a smaller group than Overdrive's group and it really only benefits you because other libraries are doing the same thing. So everyone wins. So you did like adding the Green Glass House one was like an on-the-fly edition. How long did it take for you to get it actually from when you found out this person needed it to have it available in the collection? It was available in the collection 20 minutes later. That's awesome. Because when I do my Overdrive Advantage purchase, it says titles will show up up to 24 hours later. So this is one of those things where it said there would be a lag time and then we were standing around and I checked and there it was, ready to go. Nice. It's a nice quick turnaround. And that's always just neat. And it sort of allows you to be super flexible with your collection development. If you need something now, buy a copy. And it shows up and you can have the patron walk out the door with it on their phone, on their iPad. Checked out and ready to go for them on their computer when they get home kind of thing. Registration for both products is really simple because it's library barcode prefix. All you need is library card number. You make a username and a password and you put in some personal information. And then you can go and you're done. A lot of personal information is mostly so that if you have, you need to reset your password or if you've forgotten your password and you need one of your new library's administrator to reset your password, they have some things to find. And they want your zip code because one of the reports in one click is downloads by zip code, which is nice for us out here. But more tricky for libraries in the East who have patrons in three different zip codes with other libraries in those same zip codes. Let me just show you the admin portal. So the dashboard is newly added audio and that's newly added for recorded books to sell me. So I can look at the top holds for my library. I can look at what's popular. Some titles have a circle alert. None that we have purchased so far. But if you wanted, if you had any that had a number of circulations before it expired or went for two years and then expired, you could get those kinds of things. You can do an advanced search if you're, for instance, searching for titles that you wanted to purchase. That's just, I mean, everyone loves Baldaqi books. $60 for the audiobook. If you happen to be purchasing it with a physical bundle, titles are much cheaper. It's interesting in that record books has made it so that it kind of behooves you to buy both because to not do it is, I mean, to buy the physical by itself and then the digital by itself is twice the cost. So if you just do it all at once. And I mean, that's smart business on their part, but it's also really good for the library because it makes everything a little cheaper. I can do patron search. You can set up rotator ads. So if a library had a specific event that they wanted to promote, they could make an ad so that on the front page of when the patrons go in, it would show up that thing, show up for that library. We haven't done that yet since we're kind of a disparate group of people all across the state. But I think it's something we're going to work towards because if the patrons are going to be there grabbing your stuff, you should be telling them about your other things too. So we need to be showing off our other events even if, you know, potentially a bunch of people in Karnia are going to see my Hastings event. Too bad, so sad. Oh, someone does have a suggestion for that because you did say that you guys are all, you know, separate libraries. You could advertise the One Book One Nebraska statewide program. Put a little thing in there about that. And is the One Book One Nebraska in there? That would be a question. Oh, what is it? Well, it depends on you mean the current one or the upcoming one. What's the upcoming one? Let's see. You think I should know this off that minute. Right now it's the Death Zones and Darling Spies. The upcoming one for next year will be the Meaning of Names. Let's just see if I can buy it. Oh, goodness. Who's the author? Karen Gettert, G-E-T-T-E-R-T. Wait, Shoemaker. Karen Gettert, Shoemaker, actually. I'm not sure which is considered, she's got two last names. Try Shoemaker, I guess, S-H-O-E-M-A-K-E-R. But Karen, yeah. That would be something to ask about then. Maybe they could add that if they don't. But that's the one that's going to be the one for 2016. And the current one is the Beverly Kiefer's Death Zones and Darling Spies. Anyway, just because that's something, like I said, even though you've got a bunch of libraries, they could all be having people participate in that particular program. It's not a bad idea. Oh, for two today. Some of the other great... I clicked on Purchasing Tools, so we'll go to that one first. But the reporting tools you can record books makes their upcoming audiobooks e-books. One-click digital used to be downloadable, and then there was a second one-click digital that was for the e-book portion, because recorded books got into the e-book game, just like everyone else did. So we don't currently purchase e-books, because e-books have a lot of the weird stuff, 24 checkouts or two-year contractual obligation stuff. So it's mostly one-to-one, whereas a lot of this is all simultaneous access. But it's potential to be another avenue for e-books is there, should the libraries want to spend some money on it. And they recently made it so that those two apps could not work as just one app, so they really kind of overhauled their whole tech system. And then as far as reporting, you can get patrons, so you can sort out how many patrons are using it from your library. There's a patron recommendations feature coming soon, so that titles that are not in our collection, but available from recorded books will pop up like Overdrive used to do. And then that will feed to the admins at the libraries to make those decisions. I can do holds, I can do checkouts by zip code. The one I do to find out how many things have been checked out from the library is patron downloads. And then you can sort again by your barcode, and then you can just find your checkouts right there. There's me. But yeah, so those are the two products and they're two admin portals. I guess probably the important question that a lot of people have is price. Yes, definitely. Yes, and so what we do is we put your information into what we call Steve's magical formula. Steve Fosselman from Green Island Public Library made this great formula that takes your library's legal service population, your total annual operating budget, and your total circulations as reported on the library statistics for whatever year is most available. It sums all those things together and gives you your score. And then you pay the percentage of the sum, essentially. So Norfolk is 9.27% of this total criteria score, so they pay 9.27% of the cost of the stuff. So right now, all of our things cost around $37,959, so all these libraries pay this much. If, for instance, Blue Hill, when you put their data into the formula, they come up as paying $97, I think, for the whole kit and caboodle because they're so small. So what we did was said if you were under that, under $500, you just pay a $500 buy-in, like the lowest buy-in for overdrive. So it's like a minimum kind of fee. It's a minimum buy-in of $500. And then if you're over that, then it's a percentage of the total. And what's nice is that as we add more libraries, your percentage drops because you add more people. So last year, Hastings paid $3,500 for Zinio in one click, and this year we're going to have to pay $27, so it's dropped substantially because we added North Platte and Norfolk and Levista in Sydney and Beatrice and many intend all these other libraries. So the more people we add, the cheaper it gets, and really just the more fun we can have because it's a bigger group, so then you can go do other vendors and say, we're this big now. We have this much purchasing power as a big group. What kind of deals can you address? Yeah, so and obviously, so looking at this one of the questions I had was who can join and is that me? So who can join this? I mean, it's called the Central Nebraska. Obviously, that is not a definition, a description of who is in it. That's just where it started now. Yeah, any accredited Nebraska library is we kind of went the overdrive route and thought that if you have accreditation from the commission and you're in Nebraska, you're welcome to join. So any accredited public library has to be public? Yeah. Yeah. Because it's public library accreditation as we do. We don't accredit any other types of libraries. You know, I don't think we ever really met that distinction. I suppose if a college wanted to join, we wouldn't be opposed. Nobody's asked yet? Nobody's asked yet and I know most of the colleges in the state have a public library in their community that services them. Right, this kind of thing, they would send their people there anyways. Yeah, plus it's more public library content stuff. Definitely, yeah. But I go to Hastings College all the time and let students know that we have 147 digital magazines that they can check out if they just sign up for a library card with us. So it then makes the public library look really sexy to a bunch of 20-somethings because you're like, look at these shiny magazines, you can read on your iPad. And that's how we sell ourselves, look sexier. Exactly. The only stipulation is we can't have Lincoln or Omaha joined because they're too big and they would pump us up to the next payment tier. Not Lincoln or Omaha, but we can essentially take anyone else because all of us together couldn't possibly go over the next... Yeah, Record Books uses circulation as their criteria for charging people. And what's nice is that the... Since we go straight off of the public library profile done by the commission based on everyone's statistics that they've sent in, any vendor that's doing any kind of work, with the exception of the vendors who use active borrower as their magic number, since that one's kind of a waffley number depending on which library. But we've got the data right there, so if they say, oh, well we do based on legal service populations. So we say, okay, well we serve, boom, this many people. So I haven't summed that column. Any questions for the good of the... Did anybody have any questions about the pricing and how they're doing this? Type into your questions section of your go-to webinar interface. Or if you have a microphone, I can unmute you and you can use your own microphone to ask your question as well. We can do that. Well, we're waiting to see if any of you does have questions. Right now you've got just the two products, the Zinio and the OneClick. But you said you've talked in talks or have talked to other ones. Do you know, have any idea about what might be coming up or that's still in process too much? It's still in process. The Zinio and the OneClick are the two products that are the requirement of sorts. So the whole group has agreed that these two products will purchase. So as we get bigger or as other vendors talk to us, there might be additional products that if as a group we decide we want that to be a required product, we'll add that to it. And so a lot of what we're doing right now has just been we come as a group and say we're interested but we can't all buy in. And then they give us a breakdown kind of of a group pricing up. The other one I couldn't think of earlier was Linda.com. Oh yeah. So what we did is they looked at our total group and said okay, this is how big you are. So if Carney wanted to do it, it would be this much money for this many seats as opposed to having us all buy in and do it that way. Which is also really great because then it gives flexibility because if Lexington, for instance, doesn't want to do that, then they're not forced to buy something that they're not interested in because they want those other products for free because they want Zeno on one click but they don't want the Gale Virtual Resource Library. It's not that you have to do that. We're just kind of a clearinghouse for cheap deals and trying to find the best fit for the best libraries and vendors. Right. So much of the group things that we do here at the commission, same thing. We try and coordinate it on behalf of the library so they don't have to each do it on their own. Exactly. I was just too impatient to ask the library community to do it first. It's okay. So you just came up with this idea and thought it would be cool for a few libraries. It's kind of been a victim of your success. But you're still doing okay. You're not overwhelmed with it, I hope. No, it's not too overwhelming because outside of making sure that everyone knows what they're being invoiced and making sure invoices go to the right library, I really get to be hands-off on it and I leave a lot of that to recorded books and to... There's not a lot of collection development along, needed to be done because it's all collections already pre-made. Yeah. And then in January we look at what magazines checked out, what magazines didn't check out and I send a big group email to everyone that says, okay, here's the top-circuit magazines, here's the bottom-circuit magazines. Here's the list of everything that's available. What do you want to add? What do you want to get rid of? What are we keeping? I mean, that's the hard part but that's all group consensus which is super fun. For the most part the collection stays the same except for we drop off, you know, three magazines that didn't check out anymore and then the library wants to add one and we say, well, okay, perfect. It balances out, yeah. Exactly, exactly. So when you were just a small group, I think you started with four. You started with four libraries. I've always thought that, we've always had trouble that a lot of these bigger vendors don't work with small groups. It's just not worth it for them. So that's why we've had to try and set up groups that are statewide from commission or sometimes even working in conjunction with other states groups and things. How did you convince them to do something just for four libraries? I'm curious. Well, the benefit was that this was a brand new thing recorded books was doing. Ah, okay. They were trying to just get anyone interested in it and so I said I'm interested, these libraries are interested but this is the only way we can do it because we want a collection that's worthwhile because otherwise it was pay a platform fee and then we'd have enough money for 15 or 20 magazine titles, you know, which is nice but it's... Not a lot, yeah. Yeah, it doesn't give you kind of the range of motion to say, look at all these various topics we can provide for you outside of our print magazine subscriptions. So... So you got lucky and noted in getting into the Zinnio that it was a new service that they were, yeah, just trying to get the word out and once you guys start using it, I know it's definitely become a lot more popular. I hear it all the time from libraries talking about it as this new thing and also a couple of that you mentioned. And so we benefited from being early adopters through all of the kinks that existed and then it was too late we were already a group so they couldn't split us up. Nice. Now they're stuck with us, which is fine because now... I mean there's... I mean just at the conference I got to talk to Chris who's the recorded books rep for Nebraska and he was showing a comic book resource that's coming through recorded books soon and there's gaming. So you essentially download a program and then you can check out games for free like Lego Marvel and Lego Batman and I mean cool games and silly games and kids games and big kid games. And so it's other opportunities for us to even be able to play with something. I mean sometimes you look at something, a product coming out from a vendor and you know right away it's out of your price range. But you can say hey I belong to this group, can you give me a demo because this is something I can take back and we encourage... And we can show it to many other libraries. Exactly and we encourage all libraries to talk to any vendor and bring anything they want to the group. The Gale Virtual Resource Library phone call came because they called North Plat and North Plat said well you know we're part of this group so here call Jake and have a chat with him and it looks really cool and it's simultaneous access reference materials and non-fiction materials and it's all indexed and I mean it's certainly something that I think some of the group would be interested in and Gale is willing to work with us to make a price that works for everybody. So I mean I think my favorite part about this whole experience is that at some point you kind of think the vendors are trying to get as much money out of you as they can which you know is kind of the game because that's how they get paid but they're not the bad guys because they're trying to sell you something they think you like and so they want to bend over backwards for you if you can show them that you're willing to spend money. We say hey we're a group of 20 libraries willing to spend money and then they bend over backwards for us. And hopefully this will get their attention that they started small with just the four and it can benefit them in the future. They need to look ahead that just you know they could do this in other states just find a small group or offer to do something like this and then it could eventually grow like this one has and hopefully will grow even more I assume. And I think for anyone listening who's interested in any kind of consortium or co-op stuff it never hurts to ask. I think that's the one thing that I did was it all started when I asked my boss hey can I talk to these other libraries into Carnegie Grand Island and Holdridge about you know doing this and then they said yes so then I went to record a book and said hey can we do this because you want to sell it we want to buy it so it never hurts to ask and I think the other benefit is that being in the state when you say well I can get these four libraries together and we're the same size as Hastings and you sell the Hastings so you should sell to us too. I mean if you're a small library and you get other four small libraries and you're now relatively the size of Carnegie Grand Island or Hastings then just say hey give us the deal that you gave them. So it's not hard and it's doesn't hurt to ask. I think that's good to hear from you that I know I'm sure a lot of the smaller libraries are unsure of what to do afraid of that you are intimidated by these big companies and they hear that the vendors are just there can everything's too expensive they'll never sell to anybody small like us so why even bother it's just too much to do. But you guys pulled it off without any sort of big organization behind you backing you up or any extra funding or anything you just kind of you can do it and if you want in on some of this stuff we've got something going here that could be there that you could just join in with. Exactly. I didn't put up my contact information. That was going to be my other question my last question I have here is how can somebody join? Is it called Jake? Yeah. Basically. Come on internet. Call or email I assume. Call or email yeah. I'll put up my contact information as soon as my connection to the internet stops being persnickety. Goodness. As you said you run your laptop earlier is this your the wireless being a little wonky yeah. It's two things at once trying to talk to each other. But yeah certainly give a call or an email and I can put in your numbers using Steve's magical formula to figure out what your library's where your library's obligation would be. We kind of have kind of right now we're in two windows to roll in because right now we get invoiced twice once in October for the one click and then once in February for Zinio. So for the smaller libraries it might be one five hundred dollar payment at once in February because the small libraries that join got to be 250 and 250 and if you're a bigger library it might be something we wait until October because that's we're striving to get everything to do in October so it's everyone's fiscally your start over. Nice. And that can all be well and good. Krista can you steal the screen back and throw out my contact information? Because I don't mind. Is that possible to add that to the slide? I'm sorry to ask. No no that's okay. Hang on just a sec here. I can't seem to do it today. I've got your contact info here that's at the library. Or is there somewhere on the library's page where you've got your info or should I just do what we have here? Just do what you have is probably best. Yeah. Yeah if you can't get your stuff. But before I do that, does anybody have any last questions for Jake? Anything about the systems? About the services they have? About the co-op? Do you want to see him show anything? Well I don't know about that now that your internet's not doing well. But. Tape in any questions you have here and I will move this over. Yeah I'll pull back, present your control to me to show my screen for your contact info for now. But as you see something you want to show or anybody asked anything I can switch it back over not a problem. So this is Jake's info here. Phone number at Hastings Public and his email address. Is that the correct info there I've got? That is correct yeah. So. That's me. If any other questions are coming up. And you'll see here I'll just get this out of the way for a second. I have as I do for all our shows in our delicious account I have put in the URLs that you're putting up there for each of the services. Awesome, thank you. The Zinio and the one click digital that are the specifically to Central Nebraska digital co-ops collections. So if you're interested in wanting to know what kind of things are in there to see what you'd have access to. Those are their specific links to those. And. In your initial email if you want a test I mean if you want to dummy barcode so you can give the services a test run yourself before you make any commitments for your library. I'd be happy to get you. People can get a trial. They can just use exactly what they'd be buying into so they know exactly what they're getting into. So. I like it. I think it's great. I mean it makes me kind of a salesman type of person when I want other people to do it. But mostly it's because I want my library to pay less so I can buy more cool things. Of course. Works out for everybody yeah. But it's. It's. For the. We did the math. For a library that a small library paying $500 so for Blue Hill. They pay I think it was. A dollar for every three. Audio books. In just in one click so. I mean you can't get three out of books for a dollar anywhere so the price. Is. Super cheap. Just in terms of even if you're a smaller library. I mean it might seem like a lot of money. But when you take it divided by the. The amount of content that you have access to. It's really the it's you couldn't get it cheaper anywhere else. Some like a car salesman. Just look how cheap. Like. Really join us. I've got think here to make it easier to figure out your info your contact info. I know what I was showing before was just a mishmash of stuff but here you go. So if anybody wants to join this is Jake's contact info a copy from our system here. So any anything else you need to want to share about it were almost to 11 o'clock here. Top of the hour again. I have. I have nothing else to. Anybody have any questions anything anything you want to know about it. We've got a bunch of people online here but they I don't know if we've been answering all their questions which is great. Anything you want to know about it from Jake before we wrap up for today. Give you a last few minutes to type in what anything new. New. All right then I guess we'll wrap it up for today. Well thank you very much. Yeah thanks a lot Jake. I had heard about this over the summer sometime and I feel kind of bad. You said you've been doing it since 2013. I had not heard of it before. But I heard about it at a meeting I was at earlier this summer and I had written myself this little scribbled note. And I wasn't even sure what the name is like called Jake about the co-op thing. And I hadn't gotten to it and then it was in our state library association Nebraska library association and the school librarians association annual conference. He was as he said you were on the on the schedule there and I said there we go. I'm going to get it on the show. And I'm glad we did. This is a great service. I'm glad that you guys pull this together for everybody and are keeping it going. I hope you don't get too overwhelmed. No it should be fine. Yeah. Alright looks like nobody's got any urgent questions we've been chatting here so we will wrap it up for today. Thank you very much Jake. Thank you everyone for attending. If you want to join the central Nebraska digital co-op contact him. There is his info on our screen. Other than that that wraps up for today's show. It will be posted to our website in the archive section here. I don't say anything about the slides because you don't need to send me those two slides a year is not a problem. I will have links to the recording and those two services that are available in here so you'll be able to watch the recording afterwards. Later today it will tomorrow it will be available. And then I hope you join us next week when our topic which just got added to our schedule this week is what is Nebraska Access. Also the collection of databases and things you can use that we offer through here through the library commission our statewide database program. Alana Novotny and Susan Nisley who run this program are going to be with us next Wednesday morning to tell us all about it and how what's available in there. Lots of things have changed with it. We've got some great new services in there. I think it's really cool the resources you can find in there now. So join us next week for that to see what's new about Nebraska Access. And if you are big on Facebook we do also have a Facebook page. You can like us. Please do like us over there and I post notifications. Slowly comes up here. 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