 It's a unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E.C.E.O. and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? None of that will work on you. Man, today we got a special guest, man. He don't need no introduction, man. This man here, hey man, this boy, hey, he touched down in Carl's Hill, man. Oh yeah, this boy, hey man, Trio. Yeah, for life. UGK for life, man. He's a Leo, he's in the building. Tell, hey man, so man, man, you on that dang YouTube still. That's me? You been pushing, man. What keeps you going for as motivated to keep going on that platform? Well, seeing that I'm able to inspire, nigga, I'm trying to give me some motherfucking money. He started off right, didn't he? It goes hand in hand. He inspired, but yet he got to pay his bills. Don't talk about it. So I think it was you had, was it Pimp C's wife on there? Nah, his second baby mama. Baby mama. Miss Angel. Was that her first time just speaking out? Yeah, she really don't do that type of stuff, but we were real close and I asked her to do it, man, and she came through. I got to get her to come back because somehow the audio was low. Okay. But people say they heard it, man. Yeah, yeah, man, so and that's important, you know what I mean? To stay connected to the people that really was like most people, you know, it's cool. It's a thing to say, I'm cool with the pimp and all that. And but it's different when you connect and really the dots and dealing with the people that really meant something to Pimp, right? Yeah, yeah. See, I never did get disconnected because we had such a family structure and everybody was always in the twine, having gatherings, this and that, this and that. Sometimes we have the majority of the family on the road with us in the hotel. So after we do a show, we'll come back and mama cook big gumbo and we have kids. Baby mama's friends, just just everybody. So but always like a family structure. Wow. So do you do I mean when you when you were dealing with everything like he was dealing with it, you know, those moments, those times, whatever moments when you and Pimp were just it was just you and him one on one. Yeah, yeah, plenty of times. We were riding to and from Houston, you know, I'm saying, just just different trips. And we always connected on some on some grown man business is always it always was about taking care of kids and creating opportunities for others. It never was just frivolous conversation. Sometimes we would, you know, chop it up and just be joking and poking fun. But a lot of times it was always about future plans and creating opportunities. Wow. Man, you know, like I said, man, to be to be them been in a relationship with him and bun like that, man. I wasn't in a relationship with him. Yeah, you are. But to be in a relationship with both of those guys and understanding knowing how they was moving and dealing with them during that time. What were some of the things that you remember about their relationship for us with one another for us? I loved it because I know, you know, I'm saying they came from the mud together. And I always knew never to get, you know, I'm saying to fall on one side about opinions or what they had going on. So they ever was arguing or whatever disagreeing about something, man, whatever, you know, I mean, that's brothers. So, you know, the great, the greatest thing is just understanding that both of them how different they were and when they were in the mood to be approached or talked. It just took a lot of observation and placing yourself in the situation of being sought after. You know, some people don't be considerate and compassionate about the other person. They just see a star. So the first thing they think, Oh, a star, they run up. You know what I mean? But that's another human being. That's another trail. If you're a nigga from Port Arthur, you don't just run up on niggas. You know what I mean? You give a nigga space. You be heard before you're seen. You did because if I'm turning around talking to you and then you, Hey, what's up? And I turn around and you right there. I'm but shit. I'm clutching. Yeah. Yeah. What's up, nigga? Save man. Get the wrong reaction. Man. So, you know, the Port Arthur, how far has Port Arthur from Houston? 90 miles. So that's a good drive for you and him. Have a conversation. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To and from just going to different things like that. That source magazine, Texas cover. Mm hmm. Like we, we had left the hotel and when did that and was at the ranch. And then we left from there and went to Beaumont to his parole office. Then we left from there and went to PA. So we was always doing different things like that. Yeah. Yeah. Just, just going and taking care of business. Yeah. Taking care of business. Yeah. So the love in Houston. How was it when you guys would go up to Houston and visit and go different places? It's a different world. That's the country, right? Where y'all live. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Port Arthur is Port Arthur, man. They don't give a damn if you, if you shit JZ in that hotel. Niggas still going to treat you funky. You know what I mean? Even though Pimp was one of one in that thing with two Bantleys and a mini-match. And the shit them niggas still trying to act like these niggas. He owed them something or something. You know what I mean? So when we got to Houston, it was just a different time, a different place. We like, hey shit. Like we was in the fucking ghetto Hollywood, you know what I mean? Shutting the malls down and shit like that. Really? Yeah. What about the same thing in Odessa? You were saying that earlier? Um, Odessa is a different, shout out to Odessa. Odessa, man. He missed his seat. He missed his plane. Odessa, Odessa was mad in the motherfucking ball. Odessa, damn, they jumped on our forecast. They was mad. Yeah. We in the motherfucking old school. I don't know who provided that shit. And then we in the old school limbo and shit selling CDs at the motherfucking west. They ain't no Pimp. We already know he didn't miss his flight. But shit, what the fuck? I'm gonna get out of there. Hey, sorry. He missed his flight. Fuck y'all. Hey, come with me now. Hey, nigga, get these CDs. So what about the, uh, yeah, we went perform. You know what I mean? We performed hard in the bitch. Her ever got out that bitch. What about, uh, like, uh, when you look at, uh, Bun was on, I think, Beehive. And he was like, uh, he was saying that him and, uh, Jay-Z, uh, yeah, Jay-Z them, they did when they did that, uh, uh, Big Pimping, uh, video that they was Pimp wasn't even on there, man. They said they had Pimp. Just like you just, that's what made me think. Pimp, uh, and I remember too sure. I was saying he was with Pimp too during that time and how they had to drive down the, I think it was Miami. I'm like, man, Pimp was something different, man. He didn't play no games. He didn't, he didn't bar none. You know what I'm saying? It was his way, you know what I mean? He, he started to realize, you know what I'm saying? His worth and he moved how he moved. It was his way and a lot of people used to be disgruntled at, you know what I mean? He wasn't there on time and they might be talking shit before he gets there. Man, that nigga, this and that, this and that, this and that. But soon as he come up and crack a joke, everybody didn't change. They done forgot he two hours late and they on his mother fucking nuts and he just entertained in there. A gift. Two hours late. A gift. And been texting me and hitting me all the while. Nigga, I'm at the airport with this. You know what I mean? Hitting on a bunch of behind the scenes footage from the road or whatever. And I'm gonna start, you know what I mean? Clipping that up a bit more. Hopefully we do more true stories and shit. Honestly, whatever it worked, because it seemed like all getting with niggas is the shit that worked right now. That's real. I'm looking for me a mother fucking argument now. It's really the truth. A mother fucking fresh spitboxing and lip wrapping with some niggas. And this verbal warfare is what's going down, huh? I don't like this shit though. But that's what they do on there. But sometimes these verbal warfare gets physical after a while. It can. It can. Because you know, some people, you say something but I can't combat what you say. And I'm so mad I'm gonna take it physical because I'm gonna get you back because you made me look terrible. Honestly, that's a very immature mind. But that's how they do. There are plenty of people out there that's plenty of people who lost their lives because of it. But you know, niggas from the streets for real who know the consequences. Man, I don't give a fuck what a niggas say out of his mouth. To me it's just like a sticks and stones but words will never hurt me. So sometimes I be mad when certain niggas don't fuck around and fire back at a niggas. You know what I mean? But goddamn, you know what you're doing. Niggas playing with that algorithm. You know what I mean? Is there anything... I know you say you're gonna keep pushing. Is there anything else that you have planned? I know you have back behind the scene footage that you're gonna be releasing. Is there anything else you have planned for next year? Dropping more music, you know what I mean? Just more interviews and different content of that nature. Maybe dropping more often? Well, I've been doing a record a month and I'm pretty much testing how the audience is engaging with the record. So as that pick up and build momentum, I'll probably give them more. But at this point, I'm just gauging it the way it's going. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I see your comedic personality. Huh? And when you talk about him and how he always used to be telling jokes and stuff, I can imagine both of y'all together. How many laughs or weren't you like that back then? I've always been like that. He and I, we come from that era where cracking jokes and playing a dozen, that's just something we did. You know what I mean? So when we got together, man, it was just he couldn't even get what he was saying out sometime. And it'd be just so damn humorous because you know you're gonna say some crazy ass outlandish ass shit. So yeah, we just always vibed like this. Was everybody else in the camp like that or was just y'all? Man, if you seen our camp, you'd think they all need to be in the nut house. You know what I mean? Everybody, everybody laughing, joking and clowning, having a good time. You know what I mean? Who was the biggest comedian out of all y'all? Uh, I would have to say Pimp. Really? Yeah. And who was the serious guy? Because you always had one who never really laughed. Oh, shit. Who could be? Bumby. Nah. Would he laugh like? Man, when he, when he chilling, yeah, that nigga be joking and clowning like a man. Really? Yeah, yeah. Look what he did to me one day. We was shooting something for BET out at Mama House. And they came and gave me my own little segment and he was pulling off, him and his wife pulling off an escalator. And I'm talking on some serious content, cameras rolling and everything, and they gonna pull up to my a-bitch line. Live. You know what I mean? Wow. Wow. They couldn't even use that shit. Man, so what do you think, what do you think the next move is in music? Who's the next to go, man? Uh, out of Texas or just... In general, who you liking? I know you're a music connoisseur, whatever that may be. Oh, man, who could be next to go? Yeah, that's a good question for you. You folks don't know cause you be on that internet, that YouTube, and you watching. It's a lot of youngsters, man. There's making a lot of noise and got movements. I see the one youngster, Hot Boy West. Hot Boy West out of Waco. Yeah, out of the coach. You know what I mean? Cut it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He making some noise and connected with Gucci Man, so I'm thinking he gonna make a huge impact. You been liking the show, though, like to see us come from where, man, you was at even when we was here. It grew, right? In six months, man, you didn't leaps and bounds. I've seen so much entertainment that it's a frequent place I visit to go see what's happening. Really? I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, everybody. But I like that about you, though, man. I love your channel because you always trying to figure it out, you know, for as far as, okay, I'm gonna do this, so I'm gonna get this on. We going this way with it. And I think that's what you gotta do. You gotta recreate, reinvent in order to be successful, right? Exactly, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, so can we, are you gonna start taking live guests or anytime soon? A little later, I'm figuring all that out. I seen everybody started doing the side-by-side videos and different things like that. I see that. I've never done it. I've never actually, we went live on our YouTube one time. We never just went live. So you upload? I upload everything. Wow, wow. But that's the reason, I did it like that for a reason because Boss Talk podcast 101 Prime Time. You can look it up. It's already out there. It's got a huge following already and everything. Wow, yeah, I'm gonna check that out. I'm different, bro. We are different. And I think that's what's kind of catching people off guard the most. Yeah, you came in on some pro-type shit. You didn't come in like no amateur. You came in like a pro. And I promise you, I was freestyling a lot of it. But at the end of the day, I'm a hustler. So if I find a way to hustle, I'm gonna take it there. So I'm moving in different strategic ways to say, okay, if I do this, this gonna happen. I'm gonna try this. Okay, this gonna happen. What that nigga say over there? Oh, they doing that? And we just, I'm treating it like the streets, man. Man, it's going down, man. Man, shout out to, man, we done had so many different people. You've seen all these people including yourself to them. Been on here 400 and almost 80-some episodes, man. Wow, wow, yeah. We did that about, what, six months ago? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. And it's crazy because I, like I said, the work ethic, like today, like we do two or three. We just don't stop. And I think that's what make us different from everybody else. That's real. That's what's real, man. Yeah, I do something called the trio cast. Shout out to the whole trio cast, man. Shout out to trio cast, man. For real. So break that down for me. Trio cast is some individuals that always showed up and supported on my lives and they just continuously come back, back to back that, you know, got me to the monetization stage. Don't. And still to this day that they are every life. So we're such a family that we know when new people come in and they identify them. Wow. Yeah, yeah. And if people talking sideways, they identify them and damn, they eliminate them. You know what I mean? Really? Yeah, so that's the trio cast. Man, I got to do something by them Boss Talk 101 something. I got to name these people, man. It's going to happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boss Talk 101 got a name. I don't know what we're going to do. It's going to be some throat. Yeah, yeah. They actually gave me the name. Like I was, I was doing something. Cause they go by trio gang too, but they was the trio cast cause they always was there. And I said it ain't a podcast. So it's the trio cast. Dope, man. Dope, man. And we talk about some of everything, man. What would you think would be the thing to do? Let's see what a break the mold in 2022, man. Cause I've been trying to figure out a way to give away, you know, I'm in a clothing store. So I'm giving away hats and do different things for different things that different people do during the, and I know you do clothes too. So what, what do you think, how could we be strategic in keeping the people intrigued? Do you do the pose? Now I've been seeing you doing it lately. Listen, I'm trying it out, man. It'd be, it'd be thousands of people coming. This was crazy. I'm going to link you up with the homie. I've been involved in some pose. Really? Shout out to the homie Texas prison stories. Okay. He is a fan of blind fear. You remember the artist? Yeah, yeah, come on homie. That boy was dope when he was doing his thing. Yeah. So he do some song battling. And so my partner was like, man, why don't you get on there? You know what I mean? I'm like, man, I'm already boom, boom, boom. But hey, it's some good exposure. So they threw my songs on there and I just been winning on all the pose and whatnot. So currently I'm in the pole. If y'all want to go over there and vote, you know what I mean? They playing one of my songs. But I want to link you with him up because he love this Texas shit. Does he? Oh man, amen. We bringing it, right? Yeah. Man, I'm glad. Hey man, you met, I never would have thought we'd met here years ago in this parking lot. I never would have thought that we'd be doing this right now that day when I met you. I'm being real. Wow. I really didn't know what the thing, because you don't know what tomorrow brings. Exactly. Parking lot pimping. But you're a hustler though. When a hustler meets a hustler, we need to do an episode like that and do it live with each other and bring each other on. When a hustler meets a hustler. I'm with it. You see what I'm saying? And then just talk back and forth between platforms. Yeah, it's content man. It's, you know, whatever, whatever that represents you as content, that's what is hitting folk. Yeah man. I think that's right man. I really do man. So what about all these people man that like I said, a lot of them use the PMC, the cadence, the beats, the remaking the songs. I know so much about certain people that are saying, we getting ready to do it again. But I'm trying to figure out a way to make it, to give it essence. Yeah. I look at it like imitation is the best form of flattery. But at the same time, when people start doing their research, they really see who really a part of that branch. So I don't never like attack or worry because if they do, they do diligence. They going to find the trio niggas that's a part of their branch. And the niggas that say like, oh, he's trying to rap like this. Niggas, I'm from the same gumbo pot. I'm from Polt off the Texas. We from the same era. No, the same people. So when I do his draw, I'm doing it and you knowing it. But if I'm doing me, you're going to hit that kill. You're going to hit it. Uh-huh. No, I'm saying. No, I'm talking about. Let's go. You're going to hit that type of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That ain't no mimic of nobody. That's just me. Yeah. But you was doing that way back then too. Yeah. Even on the CD that I got from you, I'm like, this dude, you could tell he from over there. And this was, you got to realize how close this was to when he had passed. Yeah, man. So it wouldn't have been like you was doing anything. It was just being you. You was explaining to me who you were and the branch off of it. That's what you was explaining to me. I remember that. You know what I mean? And that was, that was a dope. I'm like, dang man, you know, cause at that point, you're trying to grab a piece of him any way you can. And he would have told me like in the studio, he said, why would he not say, nigga, stop trying to sound like me if I was. Yeah. But I never was. So when I did my section, I was like a kid at one time because sometime he was telling different artists, hey, do this, do that, do that to him. And I'm thinking like, damn, why he ain't telling me nothing. You know what I mean? And so he told me like, nigga, you can rap nigga. I don't tell bum be about what he doing. You know what I mean? So I felt like, hey, that was a damn compliment. Yeah. Yeah. And I know Bootsy had told a story one time about him rapping and he was like, he'll go take it to Pimp. Pimp be like, nah, I'll go back. That ain't it. He was always, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't easy on you. Yeah. He never did that to me. And I seen him do it to a few people. So I wanted it because I thought maybe that was him showing attention in a certain way. But he like, nigga, you can rap. I ain't got to tell you nothing. You know what I mean? Right. And once he told me that, man, I just lean into who I am and do what I do. Did you ever get a chance to meet Bootsy in him during that time? I met Bootsy in a web in him. I met them multiple times. Okay. So they knew you and Pimp in him was running in the same circle. Yeah. But you know what I mean? Individuals was having their own situations going on and distracted when they think about it. Yeah. They know, but we never really had no real deep talks. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was always surface kicking it, dissonnet, dissonnet. Nothing really... And I would think that because when you think about it, I would really... When you... Like if me and my team come into a place, that's me and my team. Yeah. And they team is there. Right. But we still know. Right. I'm really with Pimp right here. Right. So it's gonna make it a... You see what I'm saying? Yeah. It's gonna make a skism. It's gonna make a split right there. I remember we was doing a show with Webby. And we was in Dallas. And we was at one of them college sims. And when Webby came in, he blowin' big. He in the damn... What it is, like a civic center type area. And he blowin' in that hole. You know what I mean? It ain't Colorado or Cali. In the damn polly light. Hey man, somebody... They askin' other people to tell Webby to put it out. They won't go up to him themselves. So they went told Pimp, Hey man, can you tell Savage to put that weed out? Pimp was like, Nigga, you gon' tell Savage, nigga. Ask him. Me to go ask the nigga to put it out. Oh man. So that was the time when the Savage life was going down. Oh man, nigga. It is shirt off. That new bro. Was he the same Webby or did he change? Or is it the... We just didn't see that side of him because he wasn't more in the public eye during that time? Or what was that Webby compared to the Webby we deal with today? Every time I seen him, he was always in that mode. Okay. I called him a couple of times and we were able to have a good conversation, just me and him at the hotel before going to a show. And we were able to have a real conversation. But other than those couple of times, he always was in that mode, you know what I mean? Wow. Yeah. Cool dude, man. Just got his way of doing things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Derek, his brother. Oh yeah, so what? I mean, and I ain't gonna stay on this too long, and you probably, you don't have to answer that you can. You can shy away from it. But Boosie being the news a lot about... Him and Nas X went back and forth. Who? Him and Nas X, the little boy that was pregnant. A little boy that was pregnant? Yeah, he was pregnant. Damn. It was a boy that was pregnant. Yeah. And I don't know what happened. I just seen it. He had a miscarriage. No. I don't know if you... I'm just saying. And he was beefing. A pregnant boy was beefing. I know it sounded crazy with Boosie. With bad ass. Yeah. So a pregnant boy was beefing with bad ass. Exactly. It was a hell of a combination. So all I'm saying is when it happened, you know, Boosie's voice, his opinions quite strong. And the media went with it, man. They was like, man, they was like, man, he was real. He didn't have to be that harsh or whatever. But do you... How do you look at things when they go down like that on the internet? We have to realize that we dinosaurs from a different day. Okay. I got a new song called Trio Era. It's an era in time we come from. And we had those type of morals and ethics. So in this new era, it's almost like anything goes. So if you're going to be, you know, vocal about it, you should expect that you're going to have a whole group of people that's going to go against you. But you got to be like Beyonce with the beehive. Let the beehive attack the motherfuckers. You know what I mean? I got it. Yeah. Let the Trio people that support you attack the motherfuckers. There's in the comments talking this and that, this and that. Fuck with the media talking about it because you already know who that shit ran by. You know what I mean? For sure. We the minority on that real Trio shit. We the minority. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So how do you... I asked you another question because you've been Dallas a lot. You hear, you know. I ain't never know where, but I'm always everywhere. Know what I'm talking about? Yeah. You hear today. How do you feel? How do you feel the music is going far as, you know, do you feel like the music is up, down, you know, mode three passed away? Man. When mode three passed away, it was after that, you know, did the music, did it kind of filter down or do we feel like it's firing up or? I feel that the sacrifice is way greater than the reward. Okay. These bars jamming. You know what I mean? These bars getting a look that a lot of places ain't gotten a long time, but it's like what comes with that? So you got the negativity and the creativity running parallel and why that race is running. You're losing people. So it's unfortunate, but that popularity or the drama and the negativity, you know what I mean? That's what attracted people. But I wish it was a different way for our people and our culture. Why do we have to jump off the cliff and die to be noticed? You know what I mean? While we can't go off into the sunset, like the, the, the, the Willie Nelson's and all these other people and enjoy our lengthy career. Why would career has got to be short lived? You know what I mean? And niggas become mortars and legends because he just wanted to be crazy. Yeah. I agree with that a hundred percent. Sad man. I don't know, you know, is he a pop or place where, you know, with young Dolph dying, young Dolph gets killed. Different people demise come early here. There are so many different tragic things from the mode three, the young Dolph, the pop smokes, all these things, that young greatness down there and the kid got killed in New Orleans. All these people that just go through all these different channels when you're in this music. What was it? What is that? That's the, that's the messages that's being perpetuated by the big media companies. It's almost like the conditioning when we were looking at the South Centrals and what that was, colors. Remember colors in South Century. They'll be banging menace to society. Menace to society. So the weaker minded individuals are being impressed by that and they're becoming that. And if the lyrics are telling them, be honest with you, man, I kind of feel like the shit is just demonic. A lot of demons running around and shit happening, man. So stay prayed up and do your best. But this whole music thing, dog, it looked like it's going to hell in a handbasket. Doesn't it? It looks crazy, man. I don't really know how to snatch our youngsters out of the fire. One by one? I'm trying, but I'm just saying with some positive input to the waves to where we, these are verbal warfare. There are verbal conditioning that can help our youth. There's so many different things that's happening behind these microphones. With the children on these all day long. They not know where, but here, they don't even watch TV no more. They watch these and if they're going to look at something, this is where it's going to happen at. And so we have to inject something to help our youth, man. And that's why I do this here, to be honest with you. Proud. Because you have to, right? Proud. How do you get in their face if you're not here? Because you used to, you catch them down the street. You say, the young boy, hey, boy, I know your daddy. You better go sit down. I know your mama. That's how you call them. You can't catch them outside no more. They're not also us rewarding the ones that's doing well. Man, what you talking? Let me, let me, let me, let me pop my whatever for a minute. Pop this shit. Let me, let me, let me pop mine for a second. Because I'm going to tell you something, man. I sent this to my brother, man. Shout out to Shamaria Faith Smith. That's my daughter, man. And when you see something like that, bro, and you know she in the 11th grade, I remember when I was in the 11th grade. Ain't no way in hell. You're a scholar. You see that? Yeah, man. Hundreds. All across, I mean the whole year ain't nothing under 90. Man. So I got to show this to a camera, man. I hope it'll zoom in on that thing. That's too true. And keep up the good work. Do you see that though? Yeah, man. I mean, and she was like, Dad, I didn't make under 95 on my semester. Wow. Under 95. And these are all gifted classes. Salute. Salute. This ain't, this ain't no, this ain't no, these are all the hard classes. This ain't the shit I was using. This is one of the nigga run from. Pimp. Yeah. I would run from these. I know she got it from me. Her mama don't want to admit it. Some kind of weight God worked it out. She got it from you? Some kind of weight God worked it out. You know what I'm talking about? I don't know, you know, the mama, yeah, she pretty sharp, but the daddy is a whip. There we go. Yeah. Hey, my kids should. They'd be surprised at me. But I ain't going to sit here in line and say I made these kind of grades. Because this is, I ain't even know you could make them kind of grades. Bro, she ain't got nothing under 95, man. Damn. I thought 65 was high. No, let me. Shout out to Shamari Faiz Smith, man. I just I just want to take the time right now to say, daddy is very proud of you. Ain't no way that ain't no way that. Hey, ain't no way. Ain't no way. God, it got to be. It got to be a God already because I was the worst child, man. You know, huh? Smart queen. Yeah. So man. So when you when you think about. Okay. If you look at all of the different kids that that that you've seen. How do we get to him, bro? How do we? I'm tall. I know I saw my daughter, but how do we get to these youngsters, man? And he's you got a lot of single parent home. You were just talking about one. Mm hmm. Think about it. When when Pym passed away, the young lady that you told, how was a kid? How was a daughter? She probably was about, man, probably about, let me say that was what 14 years ago. She about 20 or something. Probably about five, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? And she had to grow up in that whole, you know, yeah, functionality, man. Yeah. Now, and there's a lot more. You look at more threes, kids, they're about to grow up the same way. Wow. So her ministry really could help them. If she was able to pull through and be like, I can tell them. I made it. Right. And that's how we got to do. You see what I'm saying? We got to reach back. And that's, that's been my whole thing, my whole career. It's all about, you know, and that's, that's been my whole thing. My whole career is always reaching back. I remember when a pimp used to be asking me, because I would be meeting up while we on the move. Shout out to my little homie. Just got out after 10 years. TJ. Shout out TJ. And we'll be on the move. But then I'll be like, Hey, I need to break and stop and holler at my partner. Hand them some stuff. Man, what y'all doing? Like, while I'm moving around with you, doing what I'm doing, he taking the products and putting them in the hood. Well, I ain't in the hood. You know what I mean? He always was interested in us giving back and reaching back to the youth and giving them an opportunity. Man, I just know that, man, when you look at what we're dealing with, it's just not known, it's no normality to it. It's not normal, man. I don't even, I mean, when I look at like the family pictures after somebody, it's almost like when people pass away, and I hate to go back to this, but when people be passing away, right, it's like it's a celebrated next day that everybody, they already know what to do, how to do it, and how to post. People post on people, they never even supported before that for likes. This has become a big game, man, in a lot of ways. Some seriousness, but a lot of people just doing it for trending, right? Right. It's the conditioning of the apps and virtual reality, you know what I mean? That's how it go. You're going to see celebrations and memories for about two, three days. If you really with somebody, you're going to get about a week or so, but if you was a half ass, nobody's shit. You're going to get about 24 hours, and they on to the next time. Wow, that's crazy, man. It's crazy, but it's definitely happening, and it's definitely real. Yeah. I'm, and the thing I want to ask you about also is the the botany boys thing, like he was a pimping, he would shout out to botany boys. What happened to those guys? The one, I think his name, Courtney, I've always, you know, seen him around in Houston and whatnot, but I think he started a trucking company. Okay. But they definitely still in the mix, you know what I mean? Handling business is bosses. Okay. Every time I seen them in the streets, they was moving like boss street niggas, you know what I mean? They just show whatever they're doing on top of their game. Okay. Well, yeah, you said trucking and show came to mind because he called me this morning. He was like, man, ask them. They know me. I'm like, man, they know you. You just over here were facing a lot of other things. Show? Yeah. Man. I'm like, how the hell you know them? He like, I'd say, you know show? He's like, man, I mean, I said, I said, you know, he's a Leo. Yeah, he say, he seen me on the camera. Yeah, nigga, you was on the camera. You got it in the way. I'm going to tell you the truth is shit. I used to work for show. Really? He gave me a job. Wow. Show one of them real ones. Yeah. Wow. That's dope, man. And that's something that where two brothers. Yeah. Can come together and make something happen. That's why I did it. Every time we was talking, I was always reminding him of people saying, you know what I'm saying? Brothers can't come together and make no shit happen. So I wanted us to be the example that we did it. And he gave me a lot of game on the trucking, you know what I mean? And day by day, four o'clock in the morning, we'd be on the phone, he'd be gamein' me up. So he was one of the most influential people that gave me the game before I even got in the game. Plus he gave me a job. So hell, yeah, that nigga, that was some Trio, grown man shit. Full circle show. You got your shot out. You asked me about it this morning, nigga. I ain't gonna boo a shit, yo. Well, I was going to shot him out, but that was a hell of a shot out. I ain't lying. Here he go again. Yeah. Like he really got something. Hey, we can't hardly hear you, bro. What you talking about? I got I got he's a Leo over here on on we we're here doing the show and you call in the middle of the show. So then you want you want to highlight he's my idea. What up, man? What's up with it? Hey, PmC Junior. PmC Junior. MAH! That's good. What y'all got going, man. Y'all doin that celebrate? Yeah. Yeah, give us the encouraging words on on PmC, man. I sticking in with the rest. What what what does PmC mean to you, just a caller inter? You say a caller inter? The best the best that was one of the best that would do it. You know that. Yeah, one of the best to ever do it What's your favorite pimp see song Are you GK? Man, that's an anthem. I ain't gonna lie to you. I like I like pocketful of stones Well, what about what about knocking those down That was the one that was the one for me right there that knockin those down And Did they they haven't did it yet they haven't done one together, but You got a lot of bags flat a backscatter man, I'm gonna let you go So y'all add that to the other clip But you gotta know how to add this stuff man, you know this YouTube thing is real serious and they call me pimpy jing Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's somebody just a fan I Can people get up you know what he and you know, that's my brother be bigger than you taller than you Shit, I just wanna live Give give me a How can people get a hold to you get the shot that you too vibe man? Yeah, man. I really appreciate the opportunity man Everything is at H-e-z-e-l-e-o and the website is cheergear.biz man. I'll let you borrow man. Let's get it popping man I'm everything man. Hey, don't be hitting me on no bull shit. So you think I'm better get you on your back Come back through this business and roller skate We gonna go we're gonna go viral. We're gonna get it popping You see my my little viral moment in here We had a hell of a moment in a couple of man. It was the old geezer cutting up with mr. Williams, you know mr. White The old geez you didn't see that. Oh, you tell my uh, yeah, Charleston in the in the bloods in the in the Crips Oh, yeah, you said man dang what the heck eat them put together up there. Now. Fuck it man. She rise to the top Man go shit. I'm with it. I'm with say man Hey, how do you feel though that he be going against pimp sometime? How you feel about that? I Look at the character. I don't I don't look the same thing me and you talked about earlier Yeah, the internet. There's not only that there was a few things everything somebody say I don't agree with it So I can interview anybody but I don't agree with every single thing everybody you don't either now no human respectfully Nobody agrees with everybody. No, I get it. I get it Okay So definitely man, thank you for coming on the show is over and if it be over bro They don't get no turkey for Christmas. Look here man. It's been another great segment. Oh, yeah Boss talk 101 what a boss is talking. No, I'm Tom bot