 And that's what I tell independent artists, find that first person that trust that you trust that believes in you. That's your first manager. Stop waiting for Irving Azoff to call. He ain't calling. You know, stop waiting for these big managers to find you. You can go out and get all the resources and information that you need. There's people like Shawn, myself and J.R. McKee and tons of us that will help provide that area of expertise for you, but you need to find somebody you trust. You need to find somebody that's willing to do the dirty work. And that was me in Taylor's situation. And that's how I became her manager towards the end of 2006.