 formula. A mathematical relationship or rule expressed in symbols. Another definition for it is a list of ingredients for or constituents of something. And team keeping clean, I stumbled upon a comment from a video maybe a week or two ago that really caught my eye. And it was from my guy Jump Off Big Sean and he asked a question in the comment section. Did the Raven stumble on a formula? And one person that originally brought this up in question from subscribers was my boy Bruno. And then just seeing Big Sean, seeing him bring it back up again, it really made me think like again, hold up. Wait a minute. Maybe they did. Or is this something that they've actually been doing for a while now? Let's read this comment. It says, did the Raven stumble on a formula? Draft the position in the first round, then double down on that position in the third or fourth round. And the examples that he used, Patrick Queen and Malik Harrison. Patrick Queen obviously he was their first round draft pick this year. And then they drafted Malik Harrison a couple rounds later. Both play the same position. Both are linebackers that can move. That tackle pretty well. Malik is the more vicious hitter, but they still play the same position and the Ravens double down. Another example he used from last year. Well, actually he didn't use the example from last year, but we're going to talk about it. Another example that he used though from two years ago is Hayden Hurst and Mark Andrews. You saw Hayden Hurst first round draft pick. And then a couple selections later, couple rounds later, they end up getting Mark Andrews. So they double dipped at the Titan position early, but Titan was clearly a need for them. And then he said, not only to push that first rounder, but hey, when the rookie contracts are up and that third or fourth rounder is just as good, if not better than the first rounder, we'll go with the cheaper option. So now with that one, I don't necessarily agree with that part, but it's just a wait and see type of thing. See how the first rounder ends up and see how the later round selection ends up, which has been a third rounder or fourth rounder for the most part. And then we could of course use the example from last season two with Hollywood being the first rounder and then Miles Boykin being that third round selection. And again, every time, every time recently that the Ravens have double dipped, it's been at positions of need. Ravens needed receivers last year, Ravens needed linebackers this year. Then two years ago Ravens needed tight ends. So like my guy jump off Big Sean said, did the Raven stumble on a formula? And again, shout out to my guy Bruno too, because he brought this up in an episode of NFL Questions from subscribers. Oh, a while back. I think it may have even been before the draft. I think it may have been before the draft, but either way, I appreciate y'all and team keep it clean. Just a quick reminder that I love y'all. I hope all y'all doing really, really good. And y'all are just y'all hanging in there. And real quick shout out to those. I know some more y'all have hit me up about how to get these masks. Again, you can go to mysecretdwelling.com. That is my aunt. She makes the mask for you. You let her know what you want. And she'll take care of you. And again, Telly and Graven Viz sent you. I know a lot of y'all have done that. And again, she has been overwhelmed in a good way by the way that y'all been supporting me. So I appreciate it a lot. I appreciate y'all supporting me on this channel in so many different ways. And I appreciate y'all supporting her as well. So thank you for that. So again, the double dipping. Is this anything new that the Ravens just started doing or have they actually done this before? Let's do a little bit of research. Of course, we talked about the past three drafts. So we don't need to get into those. But then we look at 2017. The year of Malin Humphrey when they drafted him in the first round. What a great selection that was. So I do see a little double dipping here at outside linebacker draft one outside linebacker early, then draft another one a little bit later. The one they drafted early in the second round was Ty's Bowser. And then in the third round, they got Tim Williams. Now this isn't the same formula that my guy was talking about though. They are double dipping, but this is not the double dipping that he was speaking of. He said first round. He said first round is when they first dip. And then third or fourth round is when they take that second dip. So looking at past drafts, if we look in the first round in 2016, they got Ronnie Stanley. Then they got Alex Lewis in the fourth round. So I guess, yeah, they kind of did it there. And then that ended up working out with Alex Lewis. It took a lot longer for him to work out with the Ravens, but it ended up not working out a long run. But he ended up getting some significant playing time, but he ended up moving on. They traded them to the Jets last season for what a sixth or seventh round pick. Let's keep going. 2015, they didn't do it there. Bashar Perryman was the first round draft pick. They did not draft. Oh, they drafted Darren Waller later on and both of those guys ended up moving on. So it didn't work out there. Now in the second round of that same 2015 draft, they did draft both Max Williams and Nick Boyle. And you see the tighten that they drafted earlier. It didn't work out for him with the Ravens. But it has been working out for Nick Boyle because he's still here. He is still here. And a lot of times I don't even realize that he'd been around since 2015. He's been around for a while, man, especially as a titan. Oh, he'd been around for a little minute, man. So shout out to Nick Boyle. So a little bit of double dipping there. Maybe not the first and the third or fourth round picks, but the second and the fifth round picks so close. So still double dipping. Still doubling down on a position, but not the exact same formula, but similar. Let's keep going. 2014, the first round draft pick was C.J. Mosey. They didn't get any other linebackers there. And this was a draft when they just drafted literally everything. C.J. Mosey was first. Timmy Jernigan, who is now a free agent. He ain't coming back though. I love Timmy Jernigan, but anyway, Timmy Jernigan was second round picked. Terrence Brooks was a third. Crockett, Gilmore, tight end. Brent Urban, defensive lineman. He was a fourth. Lorenzo Talafiero running back. Urschel, a lineman. Keith Winning, a quarterback. Michael Campanel receiver. So they literally drafted everything in that draft. The only one that worked out, well, C.J. Mosey worked out. Timmy Jernigan, I really liked him. But when they traded him to the Eagles, I was upset. Terrence Brooks never worked out. Should have, but Crockett, Gilmore. I don't even know what happened with Crockett, Gilmore. Brent Urban worked out for a while. Then he became a free agent and left. Lorenzo Talafiero didn't work out. Urschel, he ended up retiring. Keith Winning, he ended up being cut. Michael Campanero, he always got hurt. So that draft was very, very shaky as far as how things ended up playing out. But anyway, let's go to 2013. The draft after the Super Bowl. First round picked safety Matt Elam. And yeah, the only other corner they drafted was Mark Anthony. I think he was also a safety too. But he never even played for them. And there was no double dipping here. So you can skip 2013, 2012. They traded away their first round pick. The second round pick was Courtney Upshaw, a linebacker. And they didn't do any of the double dipping there. So no. Now they did get some decent production out of this draft now because they had Courtney Upshaw, Kolechio Simuli, Bernard Pierce, Gino Grikowski, Asa Jackson. They also had Christian Thompson, who I really liked in Madden, but it never translated to the field. Tommy Streeter, who I really liked in Madden, but it never translated to the field. And D'Angelo Tyson. Anyway, now this draft, 2011, they did some double dipping, but only with people who last name was Smith. Because in the first round, they drafted Jimmy Smith in the second round, they drafted Tory Smith. So a very impactful first and second round pick right there. Very impactful draft in 2011 for your first and second round picks. Because both of those guys, they, and I know some people won't want to say this about Jimmy Smith, but both of those guys have a legacy with the Ravens. Both of them. Tory Smith right now is the best. He stands as the best receiver that the Ravens ever drafted. Now, I know that he doesn't have much competition. And we know that right now, it is looking like Hollywood is going to overtake that. But right now, Tory Smith is still the best receiver that the Ravens ever drafted, in my opinion. And he obviously has a legacy with the Ravens. He has just a legacy in Baltimore period. Because he's from that. What a beautiful thing he got to get drafted from where he's from. Oh man. That was great for him. Shout out to Tory Smith. I love Tory Smith, man. But yeah, Jimmy Smith, again, like I said, some people won't want to say it about Jimmy Smith. But Jimmy Smith, he, he's been really good. Again, we know about the injuries though. That's been only knock on Jimmy Smith. Besides that, he's been really good. Jari, we know how that worked out or really didn't. Tannen Dahls, that was Joe Flacco's personal selection. Shocky Brown, Yikes, Pranel McPhee. So we got some, we got some little heavy hitters in here. Tyrone Taylor, still going. And then Anthony Allen. I'm glad they didn't call that holding on him in Jacoby Jones historic Super Bowl kickoff return. Because it shouldn't have been a, it shouldn't have been a touchdown. It should have been holding on Anthony Allen, but they ain't called it. I ain't complaining. But anyway, there wasn't a double dip in there. Then the, the draft before that of 2010. This is where they did do some double dipping and the double dipping worked out. It wasn't the formula that we talked about, but nonetheless, they did still double dipping and worked out for them really good because in the first two second round picks with Sergio Kindle, Terrence Cody. Okay. We obviously know the Sergio Kindle story, blah, blah, blah. Terrence Cody. I thought that he was going to be something serious, but didn't work out. But the double dipping that worked out. Ed Dixon and Dennis Pitter, third and fourth round selections. And a lot of people forget that Ed Dixon used to be the starter at tight end. Me, I don't remember what happened to how Dennis Pitter ended up getting it. I don't know if it was an injury or something. I don't remember, but they double dipped there and it worked out. I think Ed Dixon just, he just started forgetting how to catch. I think that's what it was. He just started dropping a ball and then Dennis Pitter took over and the rest was history. But that double dipping worked. Again, not the same formula where it's super early, but still double dipping nonetheless. And then the next draft, first round pick was Michael Orr blindside and they didn't have any draft picks. They did have some impactful draft picks though. First round pick was Michael Orr, second round pick was Paul Kruger, third round pick was Lardarius Web. I always call them Lardarius Web, whatever. It was Webby. And like their first three picks, big impact on the team. Big impact on the team. Obviously, Paul Kruger's biggest impact came Super Bowl year. But all three of them big impact. And then the last three picks in that draft, Jason Phillips, Devon Drew, I think that's who caught, that's who flack off through his first touchdown too. Either Devon Drew or Drew Wilcox, one of those two. One of those two. But anyway, and then Cedric Pyramid. So yeah, they didn't do the double dipping there. Now, 2008, we all know the famous 2008 first round selection, but also the second round selection. Two people who could have gone into Raven's Ring of Honor, one of them will, but the second one won't go for obvious reasons. Their first and second round picks, Joe Flack on Ray Rice. Both of them just based off of play alone, Ring of Honor for the Ravens. But obviously, we ain't got to get into it. But anyway, there was none of the double dipping here. Tavares Gooden out of Miami. We were hoping things for him, but never worked out. He was good and mad at no. Thompson Bacowski. Oh, it was just rough with him. O'Neill Cousins, I think he had injury problems. Marcus Smith never worked out as a wide receiver. David DeHale never worked out. Haruki Nakamura. Now, there was some double dipping right there because he was a safety. Thompson Bacowski was a safety, but their two careers, they, uh, they mirrored each other. I didn't even know they were drafted in the same year. They mirrored each other though. So where they were out there, they got a lot of playing time, but it just never ended up working out a long run. But here, here, we got to go back to 2007 to see when the Ravens did the exact formula. First round pick, you take a position in the third round, you take that same position, double dip, and it works out wonderfully. 2007 was one of the biggest years where it did because they drafted Ben Grubbs in the first round. And then the third round, they drafted Marsha Yanda. So I'd say that that definitely worked out. Ben Grubbs and Marsha Yanda. And this was actually a pretty impactful draft. Ben Grubbs was the first round pick. He aiming figures, a good return guy. He was another third round pick. Marsha Yanda, of course. Antoine Barnes. Oh, he was decent with the Ravens. Then he went to the Jets and he did his thing, too. Larama Clayne, obviously, I mean, we know. They went, oh, when it was Larama Clayne, Willis McGatney. Oh, anyway, Troy Smith. Okay. I love Troy Smith and he ended up, he didn't get many, much opportunity with the Ravens, but he did get a little bit. Then he got a little bit of opportunity with the 49ers. And then it just kind of fizzled out from there. I used to love him in Madden, though. And then Prescott Burgess, who with the Ravens didn't do much, but I think he went to the Patriots and he was there for a little bit. And anyway, so, but the point was that that was the double dipping right there. That was where the Ravens double dipped. And then we go to 2006. No, they didn't, they didn't do it there. But anyway, you get the point, man. I would say that this isn't, I don't think it's anything, it's not necessarily new, but actually the consistency of it is new, just to summarize this whole thing. And I know we got a little carried away, we're going through the drafts, but it was fun. I had fun doing it. But the point is that the Ravens, this has been their formula recently. For the past three drafts, this has been their formula recently. So it wasn't anything that they did consistently before. But over these past three years, it's been something that they've done. And it's, it's worked. And we'll see how it continues to work. But obviously from two years ago, they already traded that first round pick away. And I don't even think it was, they didn't trade him away because it, because he wasn't better, because it wasn't working out. But I think they just traded him because of the situation. And I think my guy, Jared, asked me the other day, oh, with the, with the Hayden-Hurse trade. Oh no, what did Jared or somebody, I forgot who it was. They asked me, do I think it was more personal or it was business? And I told him, I think it was a little bit of both. Because with Hayden-Hurse, he wasn't a big point of, a big focal point of their offense. He would get involved here and there, but he wasn't consistently involved. And that was the business side. They felt, hey, we can get compensation for him. He's not a big part of your offense. Okay, let's trade him. But then I think it was personal too, because he voiced his displeasure. He didn't go everywhere and oh, I want to get more playing. He didn't make it public public like public public like that. But he did voice his displeasure. And I think the Ravens, they wanted to give him an opportunity to where he could be the guy. And Atlanta was a perfect spot for him. So while they took care of themselves business-wise, I think they took care of him personally. I think they took care of him personally because they put him in a great situation where he's going to thrive. Hayden-Hurse is going to thrive in Atlanta. Man, he's going to be good, man. I mean, he was already good, but he's in a better situation for him now. Oh, man. And I mean, if he could have got a connection with Lamar Jackson, if he could have got more opportunity, he would have been just fine here. Oh, man, he would have been just fine here. But y'all know how it was. So anyway, this was fun. I enjoyed this little, not a pop quiz, but this was cool with little flashbacks, a little trip down memory lane. So I love y'all, Team Keeper Clean. Appreciate y'all and shout out to y'all, man. Thank y'all for being who you are. I love you and I'm out.