 They night the plots of the Thursday night comedies. Oh Gosh, yeah. No, this is sounding familiar He'd be like any guys he likes I'll be like kind of a generic Words to the music, but they show clips or so a classical song But it would just be like like Chandler gets a dog Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Michael J. Fox does something on Spin City. Right. This is a great segment I like to provide to the patrons called remember that thing Yeah, no, that's the we're gonna build that was like an early 90s mid 90s thing something like that Well, when there was literally nothing but money like it was just like it. Yeah, everybody was minting money So like yeah, let's compose original music for one use for this like collection of programming Oh, man, that's when everything was still done in house. Those were the days my friend Well, that that was also the days of smokers toothpaste Smokers toothpaste. Oh, you don't remember they Yeah, no the smokers toothpaste made made the transition by just becoming whitening they They're fine with the new We could just sell this to everyone Wait a minute. I like smokers toothpaste, but I've never touched a cigarette You don't have to smoke to take advantage of smokers toothpaste Lots of things can yellow your teeth like age and eating Especially if you eat meat, it's the oils. It's the oils that get it. That's right, Roger And that's why smokers toothpaste is now just toothpaste with whitening Alright, you guys ready? Yep Sarah, yeah, would you do us the honors of reading the pre-roll sure three two Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday, February 1st 2018 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt and from studio feline 2.0 Which has a little work yet to do but is coming along nicely. I'm Sarah Lane and from the bucolic shores of Lake Merritt I'm Justin Robert Young no relation Either Justin or the lake also with us is our producer Roger Chang. Are you also bucolic? I'm content good. I'm glad to hear it. Yes, Sarah If you're looking at the video folks Sarah looking looking different behind you there. I like it Yeah, studio feline is still you know same place But in a bigger room that I have all these options and now you can stretch out Different angles all sorts of good stuff so read mail on a new show join me on this journey. Won't you? But first let's start with a few tech things you should know Chat platform discord is letting users connect their Spotify accounts together to showcase listening data Spotify premium subscribers can listen along to songs and playlists together with other premium members within their discord server The update will be available for both the Mac and PC browsers. There are some iOS options as well, but a little bit more limited YouTube go the lightweight app designed for bandwidth constrained situations has expanded from India to a hundred and thirty countries YouTube go is only 10 megabytes offers three different quality size downloads previews before streaming and works on phones Running 4.1 jelly bean and newer. It's almost like a classic operating system at that point Microsoft announced a bunch of stuff that you really need to read if you're like in an enterprise situation and want to know for sure What's going on? But the rough version is the last three windows releases 1709 1703 and 1607 will be given an extra six months of support Beyond the normal 18 months. So that's good news. You get a little more extended support also Office 2019 which is coming out later this year Will be tied to the office 2016 Support schedule which ends extended support on October 14th 2025. I think that's trying to nudge people into office 365 All right, we got some more top stories and we're gonna start with the earnings Amazon Killed it reported a thirty eight point two percent jump in fourth quarter revenue due to the holiday shopping and cloud services Businesses a holiday shopping being a retail business Amazon is no longer the thin margin company either earnings per share of three dollars and seventy five cents more than double the $1.85 than analysts expected net sales rose to sixty point four five billion dollars in their quarter from 43.74 billion a year earlier revenue from Amazon web services, which is the fastest growing part of the company surged forty four point six percent To five point one one billion Wow over double Analyst expectations. Yeah, you hear that very often almost like hey analysts. What happened? Yeah, what were you looking at? They were probably expecting Amazon have higher costs I mean, I think also especially with expectations a lot of this is how companies dealt with the tax changes in the US That's hitting some companies like Microsoft had a hit because of that But it's gonna pay off in the long run because they're bringing cash back into the US It looks like in Amazon's case. It just helped them and and the scary thing about Amazon is they had this quarter You know when they are really looking to expand over the next five years Considering all the different markets that they've gotten into with health care and groceries leading the list In other earnings news alphabet past 100 billion dollars in yearly revenue on rising Ad sales, but a Q4 loss of nine point nine billion due to a one-time tax charge Fourth quarter revenue rose about twenty four percent to thirty two point three two billion dollars But the numbers speaking of analysts still missed Expectations and showed increasing costs for traffic acquisition as a percentage growth in its other revenues and other bets Continues to rise year over year Google also named John Hennessey as board chairman to replace Eric Schmidt who departed in December Yeah, this is uh, this is one of those those earnings reports where you're gonna see Some headlines say alphabet has great report and other headlines say alphabet totally screws it up And even Reuters I think changed Changed their headline from alphabet cracks a hundred billion to alphabet misses expectations It's it's very mixed and because of that that tax hit a little bit hard to tell what's going on But missing missing that revenue or that traffic acquisition seeing that that start to hit Indicates that if nothing else things may be slowing down on that cash machine that Google has been riding on for years Yeah, which is Interesting because that cash machine is their advertising and their advertising is a market that they have totally dominated So like that that is that is an industry indicator as much as it is a Google Indicator. Yeah, so the race car that is Google ad sales Might be starting to slow down not necessarily running out of gas just slowing down a little so the other bets car With Waymo and nest and X that car needs to start going faster so it can pick up passengers I mean that that's what they're after that's the reason why they have them and no bar Mixed bag they mixed bag of mixed bets a mixed bag of mixed nuts Apple has pulled the telegram a messaging app from its store for breach of guidelines Is that seem vague to you? Well, you're right both the original telegram app and a rebuild called telegram X Which the company announced for Android Wednesday have been taken off the iOS app store Telegram founder Havil Durav tweeted that the move relates to quote-unquote Inappropriate content and the app will be back in the app store soon There are you know a cold war secrets that are easier to Decipher than exactly what happened here, right Tom? I mean this is what frustrates me about this Apple does this all the time and on on the one hand I get that they can't Communicate directly with every single developer. There's just too many developers in the app store but it is vague and I'm sure telegram has somebody they can pick up the phone and talk to about Apple But you think that would have led to them not getting kicked out of the app store rather than having the app pulled and then having to Pick up the phone and figure it out for instance The inappropriate content doesn't mean people sending nasty messages to each other on telegram It could mean that Apple didn't like the filtering method that it uses to remove objectionable material Or maybe the mechanism to report offensive content on telegram didn't meet Apple's expectations but we don't know and and as a a huge Encrypted app that a lot of people rely on not necessarily a big fan of the way telegram does it But the fact of the matter is a lot of people rely on it Yeah, pulling it out of the app store is is a big deal and you you should have a better explanation of why can I Spin this one back though before we're sure on Apple What if Apple does has communicated in more detail to telegram and it's the onus is on telegram To communicate with its users why it got pulled and maybe telegram is embarrassed or doesn't like it Right like absolutely if Apple had a history of like hey, they always are really up front with us about what's wrong I'd totally buy that right because it's not Apple's job to embarrass telegram public. No But Apple's history is being vague and just saying Gets the guidelines. Good luck figured out Yeah, now you're right. It is a well-earned reputation So there you go Well, you know It's also telegram, you know, so people go like whoo is this some like political thing Yeah, you know, is there a really big deal here and maybe but probably not like oh, yeah Your new app just like violated a guideline totally You can now add a YouTube TV channel. That's YouTube subscription service on Roku devices select one anyways Which includes live broadcasts cloud DVR program guide and other features YouTube TV Costs $35 per month and is now available on Android TV the Xbox one and other platforms including Roku now Google initially promised that both Apple TV and Roku support would come in early 2018 now says the Apple TV support is coming very soon Very soon very soon. It's gonna come promise. No, that's fine I think YouTube did that very googly thing of like Hey, but you can just have it on your phone and then use it on any screen you want Just cast or airplay it and That's great people want it on their devices. So it's good to see it I was actually just talking to a friend who cut the cord and they bought a Roku Stick and they looked at YouTube TV and they were kind of on the fence about it And the thing that held them up was I don't want to have to cast it all the time and they didn't have an app for Roku So he'll be glad that this is here Yeah, I Don't personally use it because I have sort of my own little cord cutting solution But I hear good things About my YouTube TV. Yeah, and and Roku devices too, but I have one of those Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know look a Streaming while streaming from devices has gotten better It is very often dependent on things that people don't often take very seriously like their Wi-Fi Connection and where they are and and there's just a lot of user error Possibilities on top of the fact that they you know the tech isn't perfect Yeah, as soon as you put streaming casting involved you got another failure point not that it fails all the time But it fails sometimes So yeah getting it getting it on these platforms will be good and YouTube TV at $35 a month It's funny because it's the cheap one compared to PlayStation View and Sling TV and Hulu live And it's the simple one because it it only has its channels and I want to say it's got Something like 50 plus channels Maybe a lot more than that and you just have the one package pay $35 to get everything But for somebody the target thereafter a lot of people are like yeah But I look at that compared to Netflix which is $10 and that even though it's apples and oranges, right? They're still like well 35 dollars. That's a lot Yeah, you know and it also kind of speaks to the limitations of that YouTube brand that while it is undoubtedly Something that is culturally dominant Does it necessarily say something that I want to be involved in when it's not free? Yeah, right Well, it's also like you know the whole Complaint of people who want to cut the cord is the cable packages are expensive and bloated with stuff that I don't want But all these offerings that we continue to see give us more options But it's like thirty five dollars is a lot unless it's all the channels that you still want So you're kind of still like dependent on the bundle that you get. Yeah Yeah, it's it's not going to solve the bundle problem yet Right a lot of people wanted it to but that's that's that's the the networks The networks are gonna allow that if they if they can help it But it does give you choice and it gives you competition and the big thing I keep telling people is it's not that oh This is the perfect solution and solves every problem with a cable TV It's that now you can choose among like six or seven options instead of one or two Yeah Nintendo confirmed that Mario Kart tour is coming to mobile expected to be released sometime before the end of fiscal year 2018 which is ends in March 2019 in addition Nintendo switch online will launch this September The service will cost $3.99 a month or you can get three months for $8 or a higher year at once for $20 Online play has been free up till now But it's been limited when the paid service launches switch players will get access to classic games Leaderboards and more multiplayer options So this this is something that you know Nintendo fans have known is coming for a while But now we've got the details and at least the month if not the day that it's become available And I feel like because Nintendo held off this long of launching this a lot of the the people who are like really Have to pay for that have settled down and they love the switch so much They're like yeah, I would like to pay $20 a year for a little more. That's great. Love it Well, it's this whole paid thing is like probably really good timing because Nintendo just was able to say this which is really popular We're gonna make a lot more. Yeah, people so and and also look 20 bucks a year. No brainer, right? well that the knock when Nintendo first announced that you would pay for online and And and then offer these these download these classic games was like it's not as good of a deal as Xbox There's not as many multiplayer things PlayStation gives you so many cooler games and you get to keep them Nintendo's like the comparisons didn't look good But I think it's into a so smart by waiting until people were like yeah, but now that I've been using to the switch I realize four dollars for yeah, sure. I'll do that. It's not it's not an apples to apples comparison Instagram's newest stories feature now include type mode Which lets users add text blocks to their stories with customized colors and backgrounds. I know what you're saying It looks like those weird posts. I see on Facebook. Well, yeah, you pretty much got the idea Users can also now create archives of photos and videos that they've posted to their Instagram account Which hides these posts from their followers without actually deleting them What in the world would like I'm trying to think of a use case where I would want to do that What am I missing here? If it's maybe my like Instagram collection Maybe I want to save it and hide it I see people doing this on Facebook all the time My brother does this a lot where they just make a big block with the like, you know, what's funny Turtles with rainbows. I don't that's he's never posted that but it's it's it's sort of a like It's a conversation starter that like grabs you more than a regular post Well, more than just text, right? So I think those are those are the two different stories though Oh, yeah, yeah, the tech stuff I don't I don't even know why it works on Facebook, but I've gotten used to it at this point You know, not really sure why we just need to see a bunch of words on a photo app But hey, what do I know the the archiving without deleting photos on Instagram though I'm like, I just can't think of one. I would do that unless I I don't know like felt like I needed, you know more privacy settings on something But I wanted to keep it and maybe make a public later again So there is a story that I read a while ago about the differences in how people use Instagram and specifically amongst the youth these days The big thing is to have a curated Like 15 photos at all times never more, right? Wow If if that's the idea that you are just always doing it and the only other way to take it off of your Account would be to delete it previously. This offers you another way to keep your data on their servers Uh, so you could still have it. You don't have to think about it. You just know you have a backup Well, yeah, I mean if that's how I was using Instagram, then this would be a great feature Yeah, you know, yeah the text thing it's like it's not as if people aren't already taking screenshots You know that are images and you know posting stuff with text Those are my least favorite posts But I think uh, you know, I see them enough that I understand that they have enough popularity that's like if instagram could just build out themselves They will yeah, and and also it's it's just uh You know, look instagram is trying to pioneer that space in in a way that snapchat has In in in some ways kind of not dropped the ball But certainly enjoyed their their lead while everybody else has developed around them So this is again, you know, I don't know I can see may possibly use for it, but who knows Yeah, that archiving thing that's one of those situations where I look at it and I say I Get that people want this and so they had to do it But like you sarah, it's it's not something that I ever thought that I would need and and even looking at it It's not one where I say oh now that they've put that out there I know I would take advantage of it because xyz it's it's a cultural thing Right and those things come and go really fast on social media where it's like. Oh, yeah 15 posts That's the new trend and everybody does it and I'm just not very trendy I guess Moving on ebay will stop using paypal as its back end payment service in 2020 and move into a long-term deal with ad yen Which is an Amsterdam based payments company has some big current customers uber netflix among them and also expected to IPO this year That's the rumor anyway paypal will remain a payment option for ebay shoppers But won't actually process card payments for ebay now paypal and ebay have been partners for quite some time since 2003 which is a few months after ebay had acquired paypal in a deal valued at 1.5 billion If you remember back then that was one of the biggest deals anybody had ever heard The companies split into separate public companies in july of 2015 at which point They signed a five-year operating agreement. So this is probably just the next evolution of that Yeah, how how quaint is 1.5 billion or you know two or three fourths of an instagram Three quarters of an instagram I but i mean i was thinking about this earlier like wasn't this the acquisition that everyone was just like Oh my gosh, we're in the billions now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I mean that they launched the paypal mafia I mean it was a computer deal and ilan musket everything. This was the the unfathomable wealth that that you know could be derived from a startup I Have been waiting for this to happen since paypal spun out of ebay. I always wondered like well if they're not in bed with paypal Won't they eventually switch payment providers rather than But I mean there was no, you know Real reason to like run off and switch because They had already worked together for so long, right? Yeah when it was already integrated terms with with this new company I guess but I would yeah, I would assume that someone would come in and and this company is not one that i'm familiar with So this is a great day for ad yen Because they just got a huge customer and I wonder what they did That caused ebay to decide yeah, this is going to be worth the switch But I fully expected someone to make that play. I thought it would be a bank You know, I thought it would be like Wells Fargo or city bank or somebody like that who could just throw money at the problem Even if their product wasn't necessarily better than paypal's But but you want to know what there's there's also just this agility for these kind of back-end payment processing companies like stripe and ad yen Where we're they're going to give you exactly what you want, right? And uh, and and so keep an eye on ad yen a good move ebay Interesting company in that you know a lot of times you forget that they're around They're not like amazon or facebook, but at the same time They they have not dived they have not fallen into disrepair. They're not an excite or a napster They're not napster. I mean friendster is what I was thinking I was like, there's certainly no I mean yeah ebay is I mean it's all about you know buying and selling and you know that whole trust thing So it's like yeah the payment processing part of ebay is like perhaps the most important lucrative. Yeah Uh google and 3m have joined the universal stylus initiative usi Which is developing an open non proprietary active stylus standard So the idea is manufacturers create styluses that work with multiple touch screen devices So the the the devices implement usi 1.0 And then any stylus that implements usi can work with that device You don't have to buy the samsung s pen with the samsung device Standard uses two-way communication so that the stylus can store ink colors and stroke preferences And devices can use up to six styluses at a time. It supports 4,096 levels of pressure sensitivity nine axis inertial measurement Uh and so far There were 28 members. There's now 30 with google and 3m They are made up of companies like lattice semiconductor maxi smart technologies myscript and tactual labs 3m and google getting in here big deal Now 3m can make some styluses that'll work with android tablets made by google google pixel devices google chromebook devices potentially apple microsoft and samsung Significantly, you know very very noticeably absent from this initiative up till now and The companies you need to be in here to really make us i take off Yeah, you know Obviously, I think that the the once maligned stylus is something that I think has made a comeback as we have gotten more Into the like prosumer art, you know a tablet kind of large format tablet era Uh, but you're right If apple and samsung are not involved in this then it will have a hard time Really really, uh, I mean it was a harder time till today now that google's in suddenly it's like Okay, maybe maybe that'll open the door a little bit. I don't know I could see microsoft apple and samsung are going to be the hard sales Well, I mean they just have to be assured that there's going to be a wider wealth of of these devices that their consumers love, right? Yeah Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines available on the amazon echo the google home anchor and as a good Not even old-fashioned a modern sleek podcast at daily tech headlines dot com For a really cool thing that that somebody sent us this comes from john who said So I got a used galaxy s2 watch and I decided to customize it because I can he sent us a link To something called mr. Time maker. So please forgive me the first time I've ever heard of it with a dtns space That's amazing. It's not great. It's got complications, which is a good thing in a watch face It's great because at first. I was like, did you like make a watch? Oh, I Mr. Time maker Yeah, it looks really cool though. 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Uh, but what's the real thing of the new studio shows new ideas New memories to be made. Okay. I'm not going to say this person's name because I I think they wanted to remain somewhat anonymous I really enjoyed the coverage of the hardware shortages caused by the crypto boom But you failed to mention a common component that impacted me in my day-to-day work I support a faculty at a small liberal arts college With a computing as it relates to teaching and research one of the faculty members I support uses a dual processor dual graphics card system to help teach students Multi-threaded coding the psu recently failed on that system and given the demands of the system We needed to get a rather large capacity unit We had a really difficult time locating one when we finally did we found interesting pricing such as those shown below He said one two hundred twenty nine ninety nine three Ten thousand dollars each Yeah, so this is what we were talking about with ryan shroud the other day Is the idea of well if people are buying multiple video cards, they're probably buying it to build a crypto miner Exactly, but this guy's like wait. I'm not a crypto miner. I teach multi-threading I need multiple graphics cards and now I got to pay ten thousand dollars for three of them. That's crazy. Yeah, no way Yeah, any any solution and ryan kind of alluded to this is like no solution is a perfect solution For this kind of thing. It's really hard to tell why somebody's buying a card or multiple cards in this case And then we also had an anonymous person write in and say look I work maybe for somebody who delivers internet You see the isps can't directly and suddenly start bandwidth capping and throttling as the public Backlash would be extreme What they can do is make it very expensive for other companies who serve data to their customers And trust me they will netflix amazon come to mind quickly But with the increase of online video delivery platforms eating directly into our profit margins meaning the isp It only makes sense that the isps wish to recoup that loss The way they will do it at least in the short term is with backroom deals that closely mimic paid prioritization Without directly calling it that Sure netflix can put their servers in our colo if they want to pay us for the right If hulu wants nbc locals on their platform We can make sure nbc understands that the price they pay will be close to the price the cable company pays or more If they want us to keep feeding them the bandwidth that fuels their network While the net neutrality laws don't specifically govern this type of transaction It makes it much easier to do it without getting caught or at least noticed now that those guidelines are gone The wars will be waged in peering agreements and backbone pipeline costs The initial effects will work like trickle down economics in reverse. So I guess trickle up Everything you watch and listen to is delivered over fiber at some point and that fiber is owned by the isps The more they can charge the better it is for their bottom line Where are they losing market share video delivery because of cable going away? How are these services serving their video to us over fiber? While I applaud the states for trying to figure out a way to put in that neutrality in the end It's somewhat futile the cost for consumers will go up as a result of the repeal of title tool oversight It's just a matter of time not just the netflix's the world But the hulu's and the playstation views and the sling tv's as well The states usually either contract with isps to maintain type 2 dark fiber Which the isp owns but the client lights up or straight up pay the isp to fully maintain an elan In either case Actually canceling a contract or even choosing to renew it would cost the state millions If not billions to redesign their network or bury their own fiber or have another carrier to build it out So the gestures are rather symbolic the states won't cancel anything and the isps know it This sounds bleak. I know But the silver lining is the isps are probably going to be rolling in money And we'll hire plenty of new workers and pay them well At least this person hopes so because they work for an isp So there you go from inside the isp A view on the net neutrality rules and and this is I think an interesting perspective to say Yeah, these new state laws in montana new york They don't we're betting. They won't even affect us And I guess the the big takeaway here is that we Should probably start worrying less about you know, the the the burger king A metaphor of fast and slow whoppers, right? And just rather worry about the cost of whoppers going up Like because that that this these deals are going to happen behind the scenes. Yeah, very unsexy uncovered areas of of our digital streaming lifestyle and We'll just see a creep in the price for all of these Services and it will make it harder for new platforms that explode to get a foothold Because they won't be able to get the deals that the big boys get Yeah, no, absolutely And then they're good They're definitely going to take california to court over california's attempt to to put net neutrality laws in place And that's going to delay that and that means that these these things that don't actually violate net neutrality But we're harder to do with title two can now happen behind the scenes And probably wouldn't violate the california law and it's it's it's a complex problem But it means stuff isn't going to happen out in the open is the upshot By the way insta correction here waffle off I guess pointed out I was saying video cards in in regards to the email sarah just read Power supply units is what he actually said in the email. So I I'm correcting myself Everything I said just swap out power supply unit and it still makes sense. I think Uh speaking of making sense. Justin Robert young. What is going on in the world of politics? Oh, sarah, you know, it's always a revolving door of uh, Talk about complexity. I know, you know talk about back back room deals There's uh, there's there's a lot going on and uh, as always folks You can listen to it at politics politics politics dot com. That is my Show where I talk about politics and If you are in the bay area You can come see my live show on march 1st at piano fight head on over to piano fight Dot com And uh, uh, you will uh be able to search their calendar. We're on march 1st The politics politics politics presents the american sex scandals bracket. We're gonna break down the historical uh, a most juicy lured sex scandals of uh, uh, the uh, modern political or not the the historical political era That's yeah, everybody from from f dr Like a long show Oh, we only have 16 of them Okay, and then we're going to die. It's like march madness To uh I mean you can't legally call it that but surely it's in march And boy is it madness. It is it is a madness Uh, it calls us around march. Yeah, uh, so look, uh, it's it's gonna be super fun And I I actually talked to the piano fight people yesterday and we are I haven't even really begun talking about this and the show is half sold out So if you want to go, uh door tickets will probably not be available I would suspect it will sell out sooner rather than later. So uh, if it interests you, I would say get your tickets now Uh, head on over to piano fight.com to do it 7 p.m. On march 1st So even if you're in uh south bay north bay east bay come on out Uh, and it will be st. David's day. 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Oh, yeah uh where I'm going to keep this PG But does that does that leave anything to say or we were talking about deep fakes? Yes, it was me brice and brian And at some point brice just full of innocence Just goes oh ariana grande and clicks on a link and what What? immediately finds him is something uh Explosively not safe for work And it was a very very funny Very funny One two punch of brice. Oh ariana grande and oh Yeah, yeah Oh my Well, um, well anybody who um might have missed the beginning of the show Um, very excited about studio feline 2.0. Yeah uh Like I almost like Like got some like spray paint and like was coming soon. I'm like stop. It's The art back there that a bit awesome get a white large white canvas and you can spray paint whenever you want There's a lot of wall right and I mean short of like getting creative with paint. I you know I gotta I got a little decorating to do but I didn't want to like Start just putting a bunch of holes in the wall and then later be like I didn't use those command hooks. They're great You ever use command hooks. Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. They're from 3m. They're part of the open stylus initiative I thought you had to have like a you know, no, it's an adhesive back Oh, oh, god, I got it and they the great thing is they're designed to come off So if you pull them off, it's not going to take the paint off. Hopefully Well, ideally I had them it probably won't even but even if it does it won't damage the wall You know, you do exactly so you won't be putting holes on the wall if you're worried about that But I've used them at night and they generally don't take the paint off even I've got one I've got a big old reproduction of starry night Up on the wall just using those And I was a little I was a little nervous like is it really going to hold because it's a big old wooden, you know canvas frame It's held for more than a year now Well, uh, what should we call this episode though? So I like Spotify agrees to discord discord discord Um mix bag or mixed nuts Pay pals no longer ebay's pal And what was the who was the last one I saw that I like? triple trick trickle up economics trickle up That's pretty good. You guys have a fave. No, I gotta like hey analysts. What happened? That's good too. The only problem is we call some of our people analysts. Oh, that's good point. That's a really good point trickle up uh Mix bag of mixed nuts Yeah No longer ebay's pal. I kind of really like alphabet has problems with numbers Ha, I like that would do me too. That's good. All right Alphabet numbers get it. Yes One deals with numeracy the other one with literacy exactly You know, it's like that old Michael Jackson Paul McCartney song if I may uh mentioned something That gets my goat You have a goat Yes, and this is the thing that gets it uh When you stay at a hotel and you get an email and it's like we want your feedback But you don't because you're just busy or don't care And then like that's their little way to start just Emailing you every four days about like dumb marketing things that you don't know. Yeah Oh worse like I didn't even fill out a survey Which would then be like, oh, okay. She'd like to you know continue. She's expressing interests. Yeah And this this just has I don't know what I feel like it happens every time I stay somewhere now Well, and the other part about it is uh, it's not spam Because the spam laws say you can't send someone unsolicited commercial email But you can send them Unsolicited email if you have a business relationship and because you stayed at the hotel You have a business relationship with the right Yeah, and I mean it's not like a problem to you know, ask your customers to take a survey, right? Like if I had a you know, of course exceptional or a really bad time at a hotel I'd probably have things to say Most of the time it just goes fine and that I don't have anything to say and then I All right, and then what do you do? But you want to know what it they always like make a big deal about like, you know Surveys really help surveys really help help us do this thing reward the service that you know that you got And then it's like no you just Ask me for my email or give me something for my email if you really want it, but don't Lie to me man about this survey thing. I'm totally with you. It's so annoying. Yeah, the good ones Uh, send you anonymous like this this is we're sending this to you because you recently flew with us, right? But that's it. We're not we're not adding you to a list if you don't reply. That's the end of it Right like not a lot of manipulation Yeah, you know, we're hoping to communicate opt out if it's not hard to unsubscribe too It's like I understand that you know that happens, but it's just It's just one of those like it's It's just too annoying. I get an email from united Every flight I take I get one from delta every flight. I take the day a new thing Yeah, tell us about your flight to Fort Lauderdale. How about no? I do fine Although with both united and delta quite recently I got a one I hadn't seen before which was tell us about how your wi-fi was because we know you bought it Yeah, and actually I was like It was fine, you know, again, I didn't know that I just deleted it But I was like But that that one would get me because I'm like they probably need to know Like this means they want to improve it because it's specifically about that They've probably had so many complaints and like had to issue refunds that they're like Let's figure out like when the wi-fi is actually fine. They've actually gotten smart with uh I've been on flights that have been delayed like due to mechanical stuff and they'll use that wi-fi They'll use free wi-fi as like a little uh A little make good. Oh Does that make it useless though if everyone gets it? No, not mine. Okay. That's good. I mean, maybe it has I I guess My answer would be I have no idea whether or not it Is just a crappy wi-fi day Or right right. I really haven't had any plain wi-fi issues in Some time it has been better. I usually do fly united. So it's like I can't I'm not really getting a good sample But oh no, I fly delta and mine's been better too. So now we get to it used to be always like You're lucky if you can send an email half the time and now I'm like I'm literally I'm not streaming video or anything But I'm doing work It's been a while since I flew united, uh, but they didn't use to do what delta does Which is they operate their entire entertainment system off the wi-fi. They do that They do so I think everybody's doing that Well, I think the wi-fi had to be good enough to be able to do that where it's not going to fail you The only exception is on flights where they still have the direct tv Contract got you if if they have the in seat televisions that they are are asking you to buy Access to the television for oh interesting don't have the server stuff, but otherwise it's it's everything on the server, which is Great On delta I was on a flight Last weekend where they had the in seat. I think it was dish Uh provided service for free Yeah, you didn't have to pay for it and they had wi-fi And then then they still had their wi-fi entertainment contract or is that direct tv? Who virgin well, uh, I can't remember which one does the virgin channels Well, yeah, I mean, I know virgin isn't the only one but I remember virgin being The first airline where I'm like, oh, I'm literally just on my couch watching in like bravo Oh, yeah virgin and jet blue were the first ones where you're like This is amazing. Yeah trash television on a flight I remember one time You just said that it just brought up this very visceral memory of watching It was either e or bravo But I wound up it was in my business flying days and it was I just watched like a solid three episodes of Oh, who was the other The other one that wasn't Paris Hilton Uh Nikki something You said it Sarah Nicole Richie Nicole Richie, that's it It was like Nicole Richie's It was her reality her newer reality show. It is probably a couple years No, this this is um, I think that was And like a aol original or one of no, uh, not aol uh horizons, um The 180 go 90 go 90. I think it was a go 90 show And they probably gave themselves a channel on One of those flies. It was like it was like the the the the gimmick was Now Nicole Richie infamous, uh, odds Party girl like now she has like a little sister that she's like Trying to be a good role model for Hmm because it was like a whole episode. I remember it revolved around The the younger sister wanting or whatever wanting to get into like one have a party or something and she was like Oh Listen to the somebody who knows I know like these are not the people you want to hang with little sis that kind of thing All right Sounds like an episode one day at a time Sorry for eating. I've just been looking at them. I mean come on. Who don't want a poke bowl It's just a wonderful wonderful snack. Yeah poke bowl is the best. Oh, so good lean a coal What's that it is candidly Nicole Is that her I mean this might not be the same show that I'm thinking of Yeah, but I'm pretty sure she had because I was still I think I was still working in the aol Uh for the uh for the enterprise at that point and That was in you know in the works Who knows maybe she has more than one show. Oh, it's vh1 Oh, okay. Yeah different Yeah Uh, yeah here actually, uh, I'll be right back You know another thing even though who knows I mean the shot could change I guess but In the old room I wanted to get up Because you didn't want to sort of see the floor because I didn't really have a couch or anything like that Now I'm not standing on books anymore. It feels really good Now apples, uh earnings did not come in in time for the show Uh, they came in during the show But if anyone's interested we'll talk about them on tomorrow's show apple sold 77.3 million iPhones in the final months of 27 slightly fewer Than the same period the year before only one percent though But the higher prices well, but it is the holiday season The higher price is compensated for the dip lifting the profits to more than 20 billion dollars Uh including strong growth in japan iPhone 10 sales surpassed the firm's expectations, which is not surprising Number of phones sold in the period slipped one percent year on year, you know, like you said Quarterly revenue climbed 13 percent year on year Uh, what's services revenue because that was up 18 That's uh, you're your iTunes and your iCloud and extra. Yeah apple music I think might be in there if I'm if I'm remembering right That's true. Yeah, okay. Yeah, pretty much anything that's like Pain. Yeah on a regular basis got it Any last words you want to uh tell our youtube Viewers before I Yes, uh, thank you for being awesome youtube viewers Subscribe like and subscribe Isn't that what we're supposed to say don't yell at the nice people. Hey guys like and subscribe There's like a somebody I mean, I know everyone knows the joke It was like somebody quite a while ago was like, you know said on twitter It's like please somebody make a script Hakes out the two seconds of every single youtube video so that we just never hear Hey guys Before the content began do I have to do this too at that point, you know, it's so bad. That's what my daughter says occasionally Hell she's gonna say good All right. Thank you all and uh, see you mañana