 You think they'll have the same mindset as you have right now about doing the work too much fire, and why they feel that way, and you feel a certain way? I feel like the people that came before us, we as black people, we can say, well, I don't like them saying anything because they don't know what my people struggled to do, but we didn't struggle through it. So really, we can't say, well, I struggled because we didn't pick no cotton, nobody just picked no cotton, it was nobody's house lane. So I feel like they witnessed it and they were there, it was used to put them down every day. It brings back those same feelings. That's why they take so much pressure. That's not even like different power. That goes back to those people yelling at them, posing them down, sticking dollars on them. That word was being sprouted at them. Wow, that happened. That's where the anger comes from, man. But you think they went through all that so that single word can still be used to impress us? No, wait. The word has to be used. Like, we shouldn't be using it either. My thing is, if you get offended when a white person says nigger, you should get offended. But, in defense of the word, here's a document, where one of the greatest African Americans, Walter Martin Luther King, referred to his friends as his nigger. So... He still didn't want no white man. Right. So I'm saying, we didn't create that nigger word as slang. We didn't start that in the 90s. We didn't start that in the 80s. They can do this in the 40s and the 50s. These are my niggers. We are the ones who made it cool or hit word. It's always been there. Their language, our language. And we still, even in the 40s, the 30s, the 20s, when we still hit holes and have to enter in on the brick roads and couldn't drink out the same water, they didn't like a white person saying that. I don't like a white person saying that. And I can't, there's nothing that can make me comfortable with that. Can I ask you a question? Sure. Why do I not like the word? Because I honestly feel a person's intentions of saying that, of Caucasian person's intentions. We've got an Indian term. This might sound as ignorant as it could be in the world. He's Indian. I mean, he was born here and everything, but he could say the word again, that would not faze me at all. Because of the history behind it. Yeah. And I feel like it also depends on how you use it, because the definition of it is Indian. That's right. It doesn't mean it's black Indian, right? I know what you mean. I think if a Caucasian person is around a black person, I do not just get my personal opinion. And I'm from Boston. I'm from the whitest area in the world. And maybe that's why I feel like that, but it's not them saying it because they're cool enough to have been around that many black people. It ain't that many of us up there. One of them said it, and I know for a fact there's some type of, you know, I call him my mirror at the end of the day. Like, I feel like they're getting off on it. I think it'll be a little bit. But you know, you never know how they feel about it. I think it's because his experience with white people with saying the word has never been because he was cool with them. It's always been in a bad experience, which mine has too. If somebody, if a white person has ever called me a nigger, it wasn't like, oh, she, my nigger, she's a nigger. I don't like her. That's why I take offense with a white person. So did your white person call you a nigger? Yes. I've been called a nigger. I've been called a nigger in high school, middle school, like I've been called a nigger. Like y'all say South Carolina is in the South, in general. It's like the suppressed states where the black still stick to the blacks and the whites just stick to the blacks. Go to Boston. Go to those white areas, predominantly white areas. There's no mixture. I don't have a good experience with Caucasians. You know, at all. For me personally, your perception is your reality. My perception of a white person calling me a nigger has never been just genuine, what do you call it? Power of endearment. What if he's just the whole Southern house of dollars? So their intentions might be the same, but just the way they show it. In Boston they might be more showy, but a white person here will help you out and be part of the KKK. I'll be the police. I'm talking about these people do not mullies. That's what we are. They do not cross that line. There is no just hey, we're all cool. It's almost like segregated schools and everything. There's the Irish, there's the white, there's Puerto Ricans and the blacks when the Dominicans all over here are potty. We look at Southie. They look at Dorchester, Rochester. It's not as mixed here. You can have it. There's rich black people here. There's real everybody's cool. Why are they racist? Are they racist? I'm not saying they're racist, I'm just saying they're racist. If you say cracker, are you racist? Yeah. Why? Because I ain't supposed to be calling them cracker. Because that's what I mean. If I call them cracker, I know what I'm talking about. So what do you mean when you call the white person cracker? What if I say it never? Answer that for me. What do you mean by calling them cracker? I said that's what I'm talking about. You need my help. I don't know. Is that just like that? That's my question. Do you need my help? When I said it, I meant to be written behind that. Nectar, you're putting a general statement if you would say that, and it's still, and it's still. What do you mean by that? Oh, I was going to be talking to you. If I said, oh, I'm going to be writing to you, I know you're not racist. Oh. Oh. I mean, we're a cracker, I mean, if I'm calling somebody that, yeah. That ain't going to be calling a white person a cracker. But I don't see how I was going to care for you to call him a dick if he doesn't feel comfortable with that. It's not. If he's not comfortable with it, if somebody told me, if I say, hey, yo, what up, my nigga, and you told me I'm not comfortable with you calling me a nigga, I'm not going to call you a nigga no more. Just like if, in this white person, if somebody was to, if I was to go up to the white person, and we'd say, well, I ain't without my cracker, if they tell me don't call me a cracker, I'm not going to call him a cracker. So it's a matter of respect. It's not, it's not just because you're black, you can say nigga. Or just because I'm black, I can call anybody a nigga. If they're not comfortable with the word, then I'm not going to do it because that's disrespectful. At that same time, nine times out of 10, you're going to see a black person talking to a white person and you're going to suffer a cracker. Yeah, we don't do that, we don't do that. So what if they say what's happening? I still have some questions. White people don't go around calling each other crackers either, but I'm still in a position to do two words. And that's why we like own this word, like even with the word ghetto, like it's like, it comes from like the Jewish, like. Yeah. Like they don't even use that, but we done stole that word. Hey, I live in the ghetto, like, you don't even know what it means to be a group. Yeah, I mean it's acceptable, I'm going to say it. We did. Yeah. We did. So taking offense to it, I think it's hypocrisy. I understand, yeah. You can't steal some shit from somebody, use that to oppress you, use it on each other, and then when they use it, we'll be massacred. I'm going to disagree. That's how it works. I mean, it's not right, but that's how it works. I'm not going to say, I'm not ready to fight every white person who said that. Yeah. I'm not ready to fight every white person who said that. We ain't never that cool with mine. I'm still, I'm very vocal and I'm going to check whoever felt comfortable in them to say it to me, because if they said it to my dad, he's not going to check you the same way on the track. If they said it to one of my cousins, they're not going to check you. This is me looking out for you. Hey, bruh, that's not cool. Exactly. Because I don't want you to come comfortable and say it to me where you go out on a rope and something like that. If you say it to me, it will surround them. If you get comfortable enough to say that to me and I do it in the dark and then we in the light and you say that again, yo. You perfect. Yeah, you done it. But how do you learn this? How do you learn this? By somebody telling you about you doing it. So if I'm like with kids, I can tell my son not to do something and I guarantee he'll do it. Yeah. And when it hurts, he won't do it. You tell him, hey, don't say it or anything. I'm telling you this is going to happen. And then they're going to happen. When they get busted in the mouth, I guarantee they won't say nigga again. Yes, but at least I can say I told you so. Yeah. But do you, you, okay, so you're doing it for self-access? I'm like, no, no, I told you so. No, even the, because it's like it is. Because the busted in the mouth might be me the next time because I gave you that, that warning. Oh, that's acceptable with it. But I'm saying if you want to give them a warning for the shoot next time, you're going to get a, like a repercussion to it. Okay. But I'm saying like, you don't have to teach everyone. Like, if I tell you that it's this and you go out and do it, it's not like, oh, I told you so. A lot of people live for, I told you so, and hey, I was right. Hey, some of you have to make that mistake on their own. But at the same time, though, if you call me me and do it, I'm going to let you know. Look, don't do that. I can't promise you what, look. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But to me, just, yeah, but he's saying like, no, no, no, I don't want you to call him a nigga. No, I'm saying, don't say it around me. Okay. You know. What if it was a black girl who wrote crack on the board? You think we would know about it? No, we wouldn't hear what you're saying. So what role do you think the media plays in this? What media will boost it up? That's a hot topic right now. You think it's the reason for it. But how's everything important? It just kind of plays in the rock. Probably to take our attention on something that's more important, I'm telling you, it's stuff that's going on that's way more important than that girl writing nigga and us writing cracker. And then it's, we don't know, but they're taking your eyes off of it. I honestly feel they do that. They will pull up a fluff, they'll throw a smokescreen. They'll distract us like what, two weeks, maybe. Yeah, but they had to distract us with something. Something really happening. That was really happening. And everybody's scared to cough around each other for two seconds and then, oh, the bowl is just gone. Yeah, and I think that was a smokescreen. These small racist things that are happening are trying to distract us from the big thing. Because now, you don't see anybody still marching for a mic, Brown, you don't see any protests and stuff, so it's almost like, it's not, yeah, it's kind of a rare thing. But, the thing, no, this does not mean portrayed, it does not mean it's still happening. There are still marches right now from mic, Brown. There are still marches in the land, man. Well, okay, well, that don't prove things are taking the place of the big thing that's going on. Taking the mass from them. Yeah. The mass, we were all focused on, you know, the Ferguson situation and all of that. So when they threw that smokescreen up, there's still some loyal people down there in Ferguson who's probably still standing on the corner right now. But the mass, they distracted the rest of us. I don't necessarily see it as a smokescreen. I see it as like, this is another incident that just happened that's related to this one. You know what I mean? They're still talking about the shooting? They're shooting. I'm talking, shooting, I'm talking about the nigger, I'm talking about the SAE. Like it's still all related, you know what I'm saying? It's not the same situation, but it's still related. It's still a race. Exactly. It's right. They didn't take the attention off of this. They're just like, yeah, this is happening. It's similar, let's move to this now. It didn't take the attention off of anything. It just said, this is the same thing that's happening over here. I'm about to say it's involved in the world, shit, y'all feel free to disagree. But I've always felt that a white person who is not racist, let me not say not racist, not prejudice against black people, that's an extraordinary white person. Because if you want to look at subliminal messages, if you want to look at even obvious messages, everything around us from the news to media to everything else tells us that black people are bad. So for a white person to look beyond that, I think that's exceptional, personally. I don't think anybody would ever appreciate this. I feel like that's not, I feel like you can't find anybody without prejudice. Because you might find people who aren't racist, but I feel like in everybody, there's a little bit of prejudice. Because if you ask a lot of white people, you ask them, what is one food that black people eat? Fried chicken is the first thing they want to say. That's prejudice because you're boxing everybody into one category. So I honestly feel like there is nobody in this world that doesn't have a small bit of prejudice in them. Now they might not act on that prejudice and discriminate, but there's nobody in this world that doesn't have prejudice because I'm prejudice. Okay, when does prejudice become racist? When it's the action. There's a point. The definition of racism entails a person who is empowered above another race. Yeah, they did it, yeah. You have to have, say for instance, you have a boss that chooses not to hide a black people. That's racism. Now prejudice is a white person who sees a group of black people and chooses to walk on the other side of the street. That's prejudice. What if that boss is also black? It's still the prejudice. Is he racist? Is he racist? Is he racist? Yeah. He's still racist. No, he's racist. He's still racist. Take away the color. It's the act. It's the act like he said. When you act on it, it doesn't have anything to do with the color. Black, white, blue, green, he didn't choose to hide a black people because of whatever the stereotype of prejudice is. That's racism. Even if it's just the other way. I'm gonna throw that walking on across street races to the public. I'll do that too. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna. I mean, what black people are racist persons towards black people in general, man. I am. But is that considered racist? Yeah, I don't think the mass doesn't consider it racist. Walk on street, you're smart. Yeah, I'm not saying you're smart. You know how to make black people. You know how to experience. You're not gonna walk through a game. Yeah, I don't know you. Yeah, I don't know you. But we call white people who do that racist. No, I don't know. I didn't call, I just said it's smart. They call that prejudice. Like, and that's a justifiable prejudice. Isn't this doing a show? That doesn't always go well. Yeah. Exactly. So, if it was kind of black guys with glasses and suspenders and all of like, earth are walking across the street and the white person's still. Would you cross the street then? Let's go. It's a perception though. It's a perception though. Is it worth it? But I think, I think, you guys in general, I'm walking across the street. It's perception. Cause it's either one, either one, maybe look some type of way or two, I also like hearing that in front of them. I'm being honest with you. If I see five, I'm just a hood like boys got tattooed and all. I'm still gonna cross the street. I'm still gonna cross the street. Just like with the Trayvon, like walking. Like that's a perception that everybody knows that. Hey, you got a hoodie on. You're black and a white, they look like, it's just a second thing that, but if he had on a whole tie and a bottle in his hand with some suspenders, he probably wouldn't have sent it. So don't put yourself in that situation. Like, that's the conversation that my parents had with me. Like, don't put yourself in. It doesn't matter if you wanna send it, but that's real. That stuff is real. So I'm not about to wear baggy pants in a white-naked hood. With a hoodie and... Look suspicious. Yes, look suspicious. The thing is it ain't fair. It's not fair to admit. It's not fair to admit. But it ain't anything except, it's not fair. We don't have a long leash. We don't have it. So we have to do it. We have to do it to survive. It's not fair, but we have to abide by it. It is accurate. It's not... I agree with you that we shorten our leash because most of the ones with hoods on have walked around in brown people and have done a certain attitude to give them. The world, I'm just like, give them like you're too much. Give us more. It's not going to come to those perspectives. That's right. Shoot first, ask questions later. Hey, you be like, hey, I say something like you said. I told you so. Ooh. It took a minute from happening, like... Thanks, Ace. Like what? I was telling him thanks. In the first discussion. Oh, yeah, you got to read the thing. Have y'all ever heard that hate comes from spirits? Yeah. You just can't be an evil. Yeah. It's not fair. Yeah. I mean, ever since I wore my hoodie, I've been doing this before the whole trip. I mean, you got two shoes on. I'm really... You walkin' out of bed.