 start the recording okay and we're live everybody hello hello welcome back to our live chat series I'm with somebody that I'm really excited to talk to let me see if I get your name correct in as Giovanette perfect okay everybody yes of Castle Feather winery in Alto Adige I'm really excited because the Castle Feather is unique because it's a family-owned winery in a region dominated by cooperatives or cooperativas in Italiano and yeah I came across these wines a couple of years ago in Slovenia of all places and were instantly drawn it was instantly drawn to them so Ines thanks for being on I really appreciate it thank you Matt it's great to be here thanks so everyone I kind of want to know you're from Europe and they're in Northern Italy I think everyone wants to know how is the situation going up there now that now that Italy starting to open up just a little bit yeah let's say that from the outside and Northern Italy has all put into one pot and so so it was basically but Lombardy and Veneto unfortunately were hit much harder than our region we are in the very very north to the border to Austria and Switzerland and I have to say that the numbers were always kind of you know it was it was always okay of course we had in fact we had that and but still it's better than in other regions and we are very very lucky that we were able to open one week or two weeks before the rest of Italy and so right now basically on yesterday restaurants and bars could open and we're very excited it's all strange because we have to wear the mask we have to wear gloves we have to when you go to a restaurant it's all different but at least something is moving and I feel like this little tiny movement is already making people so much more happy I want to ask you what let's jump right into a loaded question so you're a family you know you're a family winery you produce a good amount of wine but you're still family run winery how have you have you had to change a marketing strategy business model have you seen anything that you think can work after the world returns back to normal well for us and for me especially I have to say it was simply initially because when this crisis hit everybody I think everybody was just like what's happening what's going on and for me it was to stay alive kind of mean to do something to just go on and not be stopped and we were also lucky in that position because our so basically in Italy all over Italy wineries did not have to close by law and so that was a good point we were continuously trying to figure out what to do I was basically waking up every morning with a new idea and it helped me a lot because we were going much more selling much more towards private customers we worked with a couple of influencers we to promote our wines online we have invested quite a bit of time especially into social media into online marketing all that we've seen that the only things that were actually moving the only sales that we actually had where the online sales and some shops which could stay open for example in Germany and for us we were we have always been focused on export markets and so being present in 28 states in the world has helped of course but now that our or after one month that basically almost the whole world was shut down it became quite tricky for us as well and right now so I wouldn't say we have changed our sales strategy or marketing strategy completely but we have definitely been more and more flexible and just tried to pick every good thing and I think that it helped us a lot also having focused on social media in already in the past three four years so that we were at we had a good stopping point with that okay well let's talk about let's talk about some happier let's talk about some more positive things for people that don't know yes I get tons of comments my lock down here is getting out of control it's been three and a half months I'm getting it cut this week guys so just calm down let's let's talk a little bit about where you're the third generation since the family started the wine right let's let's start on a very basic level some people don't even know where Alto Adige is or what Alto Adige is all about can you talk a little bit about why the region is so special of course so Adige is this one of the smallest wine brewing regions within Italy we're not even 1% of the Italian wine production and that is very important to know but not being so small also allows us to be or to have become in the past 30 years one of the highest quality producing wine regions within Italy. Alto Adige is at the very northern border of Italy towards Austria and Switzerland and we sometimes so officially we are one region with Trentino, Trentino Alto Adige is one region but Alto Adige is the province where we mainly speak German because we used to be part of Austria until World War I and so over 70% of our population here still speaks German as their main language and so do I and my family and also from the production point of view Alto Adige is much smaller than Trentino and therefore also known for some of the highest quality especially white wines so right now our region produces 70% white wines and 30% reds and of the reds for our winery but also for many other wineries Pinot Noir and Lagrang and Schiava are the main the most important varieties. I'm just kind of showing people the map where you are up right here so I always help when I have maps here's the Adriatic Sea here's the Mediterranean so you're way up here obviously north but you do have you do have your fair share of whites what and what one thing that people when people look at pictures all it's a beautiful region right you're surrounded by mountains. Yeah it is mostly mountains I think we're I think we're over 70% of the whole area is actually mountains and we have the beautiful Dolomites which are just I mean for traveling for hiking for everybody who loves nature the Dolomites are just a very unique experience these white rocks very impressive go up to 3,800 meters so quite impressive from that point of view and then Alto Adige has also a little bit of a Mediterranean influence from the southern part of Italy and so you can see this difference between you have the mountains and then right underneath it you have this green I don't know the word meadows me those yes meadows correct and just a little bit lower you have the vineyards and the apple orchard and it's just in especially in spring and in fall it's very beautiful. I recommend if you want to see it people you should Google on YouTube the guild some video Wines of Alto Adige, Ina is actually in it you'll see you'll see her actually in it but you could see the beautiful scenery so I'll talk a little bit about your wines you know the first wines I was introduced even though right now I'm drinking one of your whites I'm drinking your Kerner from the Lawn Vineyard what do you what do you have okay so for those of you you have you have whites Kerner very unique great cross of Skiava and Riesling if I remember correct right so here's one thing I don't know about your winery are you focused you're more on you personally are you you're cast off other more focused on whites or reds because you have more grime, Pinot Noir, Skiava. So we reflect pretty much what Alto Adige is like we produce currently 70% whites and 30% reds but still Pinot Noir is our second most important variety with 17.5% of our production so even though we produce more whites and we also have more white varieties because we have about 10 different white varieties we still focus a lot on Pinot Noir and that's really I would say our tradition my grandfather already produced Pinot Noir and my father did and my brother and I are doing so and so we basically continue with this long long tradition. I want to get into Pinot Noir because I love your Pinot Noirs but I just want to ask what from your from Castle Fathers experience Alto Adige is known for making fantastic Sauvignon Blanc Muller Thurgau is supposed to do very well there. Tastes some excellent Riesling Chardonnays, Givetsterminer. What white grape do you feel like really does better maybe in your vineyards or that part of the world? So that's an interesting question because in Alto Adige we have this we call it the fourth dimension. We basically have such a difference in altitude having those steep mountains where we can go up with vineyards also quite high to the highest elevation that the producer goes up is 1200 meters almost. We don't go up as far but still you can imagine from the valley floor at 200 meters we can go up to for us it is about 900 meters of altitude and that gives us a huge possibility to play with a lot of different white plants and therefore saying what's doing best is quite tricky but definitely in the valley floor or in the lower vineyards we have great potential for Chardonnay, Pinot Grigio, Pinot Noir, Pinot Bianco sorry. Those are the really important whites in the let's say up to 400 meters of altitude and then the higher up we go we have more Sauvignon and then the highest elevations for our wine we are Calma and Muller Thurgau because they need a very cool climate they need a very different climate different temperatures that they need and so that's what they're planting at 90 degrees and for those don't know I mean I cannot stress the quality of whites coming out of Alta Auge and we'll do Pinot Noir which we're going to talk about I think the wines are extraordinary wines don't get a lot of attention and they're very friendly and they're wallet you can get great bottles of wine for not a lot of money grapes like Muller Thurgau that don't have a great reputation do I the ones in Valladilosta and Alta Auge are just phenomenal so I highly recommend that let's talk about Pinot Noir I want to share this is I want to share the story really quick and then I'll let you do all the talking I didn't know about we know the wines of Alta Auge pretty well but I didn't bump into your winery until we went to this event Mojure Le Noir in Slovenia it was a festival celebrating Pinot Noir from Central and Eastern Europe and I tasted this it was my highest scored wine in the show your Burgum Novum Pinot Noir I thought it was a phenomenal wine can you talk about your love Kastafat is love for Pinot Noir Pinot Noir? Absolutely so for us Pinot Noir I was basically and my brother we were born into it we were like really for us Pinot Noir has always been a focus and recently we have reorganized because we have a little bit of time of course during this difficult time we have reorganized our rarity section in our warehouse and we took out the the really first bottles of 1989 of Burgum Novum with the same label with with pretty much that label that you have there and it just we were just talking about that and said well it's pretty much been always there since we were born and so it's it gives you that home and family feeling you know for us it is like that and that is also why we have decided to put all of our focus into a new Pinot Noir project and really work on different exposures different single linear Pinot Noir yes. The three single vineyard Pinot Noir project we're actually going to taste taste a little bit later I have an article coming up guys so you have to state into our website to check that out I want to add about it what do you think is so unique about Pinot Noir or Pinot Nero from Alto Adage or Casta Fetter like if if you were to if you were gonna have this Pinot Noir in a blind tasting or you're trying to describe it to someone why is it so unique. So we've done that a couple of times blind tasting and it was pretty interesting because I mean blind tasting throughout the world with Pinot Noir and as you know I mean the new world Pinot Noir can be or tend to be sometimes a little bit more darker a little bit more fruit and on the other hand then you have burgundy with more this earthiness very very elegant but still quite strong winds and then you have Alto Adage which seems almost like a little girl it seems like a very feminine Pinot Noir very delicate very we have a lot of fruit but not those fruit bumps we have more of a very delicate cherry very very soft very smooth fruit and especially the acidity and the elegance that we have in our winds with not too much tannic structure and very often when we discuss this we are kind of like thinking comparing it to the world's Pinot Noir that we lack a little bit of tannic structure on the other hand I think it's very typical for our region if you taste Pinot Noir throughout Alto Adage you will always find this very very elegant style of winds and I think that is the reason why Pinot Noir especially within Italy Pinot Noir from Alto Adage within Italy has become so famous and so requested because nowhere else in Italy Pinot Noir gives those results. Yeah I haven't tasted I've tasted some from Tuscany from Frioli, Vinicius, Lili, Valdi, Elsta. I think Alto Adage is always the most impressive for me I always get this mountain berry fruits real distinctive and because they're Italian ones you have this acidity this food friendliness as I'm gonna ask a little bit more of a geeky question. Shireen in fact is a huge Burgundy fan really into Pinot Noir we travel around the world looking for great Pinot Noir all the time. Are you using whole clusters when you ferment the Pinot Noir? That's really funny because in 1989 my dad has used a whole cluster for the first time in our experience so the winery was founded in 1969 and about 20 years later my dad used whole cluster for the first time he wanted to try it he wanted to check it out and it was of course a completely different wine than than the rest of our Pinot Noir's were and then another 30 years later or almost 30 years later my brother in 2015 decided again that he would try a complete whole cluster fermentation for a part of our Pinot Noir Reserva and so we put away that wine it was two to nose fermenting and we tasted it after I think the first time we tasted it was still during fermentation so it was you know that's always a little weird time so you're okay seems good but you know and then we left it aging a little bit and then we tasted it after a couple of months and we were like it's green it's completely tannic it's completely different from all of our Pinot Noir's and so we decided to bottle it only Magnum Bottles because we wanted it was more of an experiment for us and then this year during harvest my dad took out a Magnum bottle blank tasted at us on that and we were like could be burgundy I mean it's really you know we were all impressed and then he opened the bottle and basically it was our the one term 2015 so what I want to say with that is that the development of a whole cluster fermentation is completely different than a development of wine that may not be or maybe descent so for us it was a great experience and we think and what we've done from then since 2015 is use a little bit of whole cluster and the rest is decent and so in that we can blend them together and really use have a little bit more of the tannic structure avoiding the green notes by ripening the grapes or ripening the stems especially until they become quite red or brownish and just trying to get not an over ripening but a very intense and strong great quality and so to give more structure to the wine and it's been very successful since then. Do you know what clones do you have in the vineyard? Are they German clones? We have some Freiburger clones so it's very it varies a lot in the three areas that we have so we have one cooler area which is the wine you showed before where we have where we have a little bit looser clones and then in the classic Maton area we have all classic Dijon Jones and then in Maton in Glein where it goes up a little bit higher we have Dijon Freiburger and some Italian clones mixed. I think this is really interesting I haven't tasted I've only tasted a vintage Bougonovo I haven't tasted this project at this I have the bush holds and the other wines are back there but one thing that's cool is I see that the vineyards are anywhere from like 450 meters to 790 meters for those watching in the States I'm when we're talking about 1,500 feet up to close to 3,000 feet for those you know the valley floor is actually quite low it's not very high and the mountains just shoot straight up so these are vineyards that are seeing some serious serious altitude right what are the what are the slopes like on these vineyards? The steepness is quite okay because we can we have all clay soil so we can make terraces actually so from that I mean they are pretty steep but with the terraces it allows us to work in a more easy way and but I have to say that also my my idea of steepness has changed quite a bit when my brother in 2011 bought a vineyard in the Mosul Valley in Germany and from that moment on I was like when I was the first time there was like looking that oh my god from that moment on our vineyards are not steep anymore for me what what what village are you in in the Mosul? In the Mosul we are in Rheil near Trabenrava. I'm trying to bring up let's see on your website here if there is a picture of if there's any pictures I'll wait I'll wait and get to it okay I was trying to see if there was any pictures of Altalaatje because it's such a you can share screen actually do you know how to yeah I have become almost an expert yeah I'm sure that you I'm sure that you really know what you're doing maybe more than an idea so many zoom meetings and all that it's I think it's great by the way I know yes especially if somebody's invested in zoom then they're doing it well well Inez is looking it up I have to admit Moengiq so I studied up like crazy I've tasted tons of Altalaatje wines it's one reason I was in Italy the last two years probably eight or nine times I still have not been the Altalaatje in person something that I'm waiting I mean I love the wines Castel Fetter how many countries are you you're 28 countries around the world correct you said yeah you can find a lot of these wines around the world you'll find wines like Turlan now's my greed now's my greed I'm sorry Franz Haas you find these wines all over the world really really fair prices I in my opinion but I love hiking I love climbing so I have to make it there have to make it up there then make a little side trip to Veltalina absolutely I have the pictures but I cannot share them you have to do to activate so that I can share the screen let me see if let me see if I know how to even otherwise I send them to you and you can't share let's see I think I don't know how so maybe you'll have to send you'll have to send me a photo yeah I've actually never had that before I send them to you okay so anyways are you going to plant more peanut or what's the deal like it seems like it seems like that's becoming a bigger part of your story so yeah of course we were not expecting COVID-19 so we launched this new project with about I'd say right now we do in total about 60,000 bottles of Pinot Noir which is already a lot and we have added three new wines include that in those 60,000 bottles and so right now the focus is on get those going and trying to promote them and really go on with what we have I think this crisis will take us a couple of years at least to get over it will not be over tomorrow it will not be over by the end of the year from a family from an economic point of view yeah and so for now that's we have a lot of work to do on selling those wines on a side question how are the how your colleagues and producers feeling because obviously the the Dolomites that part of the Altolage you get a lot of tourism so restaurants are a big part of sales where the wines move how are people how are people thinking in terms of optimism are they neutral optimistic pessimistic how this is gonna all play out it really depends I talked to many people some of them are really very I would say very sad about the whole thing and it's very hard yeah some say you know it would go on and I'm one of those I'm just saying we have to be positive because we cannot change the course of this we cannot really do a lot of it we can just be you know open look what others do look what's happening and react immediately so that's the only thing we can do right now and I think nobody is expecting that it will take off immediately right let's say in June or July again as long as the borders are closed it will be tough for the restaurants here and for the hotels as soon as the borders open we already and when I talked to German customers they're all saying we can't wait and as soon as the borders open we're coming on vacation so we hope for that in the meanwhile Italian people if the regions are opening because right now we cannot even move within Italy so as soon as the regions are opening I think somebody will also show up this is this is the great shot this is what I'm talking about where where is your winery actually if you can see on the screen where are you are you on the left side here or the very busy the mountains at the end of the river yeah we are located down there that's the very end of a toadija it's the sudden sudden entrance of a toadija basically so that goes to the lake right yes that goes to the lake okay excellent well so this is you if you look at this this wall on the right side of in the right picture yes that's where the name castle feta comes from that's where the name of our winery comes from it's an old Roman customs point because as you can see from here you can overlook the whole valley to the south and also to the north and the other side and that's what the Romans used at that time because everything you see here in the valley floor is apple trees a toadija is actually a pretty important producer of apple trees and only on the slopes we have the vineyards and during like two thousand years ago all this area where the apples were planted was still wetlands it was basically the river flew all over the valley and it was not accessible until the Romans built their main road which crossed all the Roman Empire from Rome to Germany and on the side on the other side where you first yes on this side of the valley and then cross castle feta and then went on ah very cool I definitely got to get there I want to change gears a little bit I'm drinking Kerner like I said which is a cross of Skiava greasling I know it's a I know that it's a very predictable grape I know producers and ontology are working with resistant grapes that might be the future of wine are you doing the same thing are you working with these odd varieties we have a little bit of solaris and we it's our first experience it's been two years it's pretty interesting I have to say and especially it's interesting also for areas where you are maybe near to a little village or something so for treatments it's not the perfect thing and they're resistant so you don't have to do any spraying any treatment from that point of view it's interesting from a marketing point of view I think it's pretty tough to sell them because not a lot of people know them right now yeah and Kerner instead has become has made its way and luckily in Alto Adige where some of the few areas who produce a dry camera and that is why people love it and it has been so successful in the last years in Germany there is a lot of Kerner produced but it's very often produced sweet or off-dry or until that's not everybody's style thank you for pronouncing my German pronunciation I was so I was I was two months in Germany last year going through all the wine regions and then some of the pronunciations were so difficult I tasted a Bronner from Lisa Lehoff actually I had a bottle a little while ago and it was an interest I found it to be an interesting wine more than a good wine so to speak so I think that's probably gonna be the challenge right with the resistant grapes it is some can be very interesting results and I have to say that just because they're unknown still the wine can be very very interesting but as I said just from a marketing point of view I'm I don't know so that is is doing well here in Alto Adige people know it people like to drink it but it will I doubt that it will reach the fame that like let's say I don't know I still need you know or something else I want to ask one interest because you've seen you've your grandfather still alive right who founded the winery correct he passed away unfortunately in September yes okay well my condolences that's one thing I didn't know he was 98 years old so he had a great life he lived a great life I mean so you had but you you grew up knowing him so this is also an interesting question in three generations you know he started the one year in 69 you grew up your dad your dad took over then you know you're you and your brother starting to take over through your stories from your grandfather your father and you and your brother how have you seen the image and the quality and everything the lines of Alto Adige change over time well if we look at the story of Alto Adige it's impressive that in 30 years we could see the change from this to this so I am 35 years old and I have I have no memories of how it was when my dad and my grandfather were at the winery but I still know those stories and it's something that I that we have even though we may not have lived through all of it but we still have it in our you know in our mind Alto Adige until 30 40 years ago produced 70 percent red wines and out of this 40 percent was Schiava so our local variety was produced in big quantities and it was mostly sold in bulk to Germany Austria and Switzerland so you can imagine we have basically made a complete change in the 80s meet 80s to late 80s it has started and basically the winery started to produce more high quality go towards less yield and just simply better wines and from that on it has basically gone like this so now we are at the point which is pretty interesting in my for my brother and me because we are at the new changing point because now we have as you said before we have a very good level of quality but we also have a good price level because we're not too high we're not too low we have a pretty good medium price range where which is affordable for many people and now the idea or the the philosophy is more going towards how can we transmit as a very small wine growing area the reality the vineyards what we are doing and this this great work that we do in the vineyards to our customers and that is why we're focusing so much on the single vineyards because for us it's what we live every day we have always focused on the single vineyards even if in the end we may blend them together but each single vineyard has a very high importance for us and each single vineyard is different and so it's it's this knowledge that my grandfather already passed on to my dad and to us that you just have to listen to the vineyards you have to look at them you have to learn them you have to understand them and I also think that this is the best way and the most authentic way to to make to make the customer understand what we are actually doing and what he's drinking because if I have a pinot noir from Pujol it's the one you have there I can tell the whole story and if you are coming to visit or anybody else is coming to visit I can take you to Pujol I can show you and explain and show you everything and I just I just think that's a great way and that's why we believe so much in the single vineyards and that's the next step so right now in Alto Adige we can produce over 20 different varieties and with this vineyard allocations a little bit I think that it this may be reduced in the future maybe not in the near future because it's one of our great potentials to produce so many different varieties so it's hard to say I'm not producing camera anymore yeah why not if I make a good camera if I can sell it why should I not make it this is good by the way this is this is a good camera by the way thank you but still we're we're trying to focus and my brother and I we have decided on five varieties so it's it's a Chardonnay Pinot Villegio because it's the biggest part of our production yeah it's Pinot Noir of course it's Sauvignon and it's Lagrang so that's pretty much what we want I have to take sure look I love Lagrang by the way love lagrang love the variety I have a couple questions here from people this is question actually Cherine too is interested in it's about Sauvignon Blanc because for me okay the Kiwis have made it really really famous New Zealanders have made it famous in the last 20 years but for me really world-class Sauvignon Blanc for me when I think of it I think of I think of the Loire I think of Steyrmark in Austria freely Vinicius Julia your neighbor there's a region called Santa Barbara California it's County in California and Alto Adige so why what makes Sauvignon Blanc Sauvignon so special there in Alto Adige so for me I have to admit that I am not a big I'm the only one of our family that I don't drink a lot of Sauvignon Blanc so my whole family whenever we have a family reunion it's always Sauvignon Blanc from all over the world for me the Sauvignon here what I really like and what I sometimes don't like in for example New Zealand or freely Vinicius Julia is this very strong intense acidity in Alto Adige I feel like the acidity is present it's there but it's a little smoother and the wines are a little softer on the palate and I I really like that and I think that also is important is an important characteristic of Sauvignon in Alto Adige on the other hand I think that from the aromatics we are still finding our way we have kind of two types one the more green style the more very green aromatic style and the other one the little smoother softer style on the nose and so I think we're still you know you can find both in Alto Adige so we're kind of trying to find our way there I have another question here something because we actually have a lot of wine maker young wine makers following the page following us too as well how is how is the transition when you're a malt when you're a multi-generational winery how is smoothing out that transition between grandfather grandfather grandmother father mother then grandson granddaughter so I would lie if I would say oh it's always great it's all perfect but no we are we have lived my my dad took over the winery very when he was very young only 22 years old so basically for him it was completely my grandfather gave the winery to him and that was pretty much it for us my dad is very young so it's a it's a we've been working with my dad and my mom for 14 years now and it's always done well because we are for very different characters so my mom is the one that balances out everything everyone so she's always you know if she weren't there most probably we would fight a little more my dad is still you know the boss he decides and everything but he was very good at bringing us and teaching us a lot of things in the first years working with us very very closely in the first years and then slowly you know giving the responsibilities to us so right now I am basically completely overlooking the whole sales and marketing side and my brother is overlooking the whole production and so each of us has his part and my dad is still mainly controlling the finance and all that and so it's doing very well and also from a philosophical point of view how where the winery should go where do we want to go we have the same goal and I think that's that's what counts and that's the most important part if you have different ideas then it's getting tricky but I think we have the same idea with some you know generally we have one goal yeah you're the one that gets to travel all the time too right yes so that's that works out pretty well for people that like to travel I have one last question here besides besides castle feather which I reckon I mean I think for I'm just putting a plug out there because this is something I truly believe I've had several vintages the book of noble I think it's just phenomenal Pinoir anybody that purchases it it's gonna be they're not gonna be disappointed I think it's fantastic world-class Pinoir what are some of your colleagues some producers that you think are doing a good job there besides yourselves absolutely I mean I thought he just has so many great lines that it's really hard to mention some but for Pinoir we are of course the some of the key producers are Hofstetter, Giel and Michela Callotto is a small producer but also producing great great Pinoir and there are many others that really we really like to drink so from for Pinoir from that side it's really great and then everyone has its favorite and I for a long time I very often drank the caramel from Kufalhof okay that's like that was one of my favorite blinds for a very long time and then you switch you know but we we there are really a lot of good ones so yeah great I hope I hope to make sure and I hope to make it up there sooner rather than later hopefully when all this clears up not only not only to drink some wine eat some great food and do some hiking burn off some of those calories that were everybody or at least I'm accumulating during this whole lockdown process any what oh one one another one last question what is the production size Castle Fetter how many bottles are we do we do 600,000 bottles now we we're producing we're working 70 hectares the 70 okay wow and for your it's all a state ground fruit that's right you're only using or do you buy a fly a flute so I thought it's quite diverse in from that point of view it's we have 25 hectares ourselves or now almost 30 hectares that we work ourselves and that we follow completely and then I thought it is very small parcels you saw that before maybe on the picture it's very small vineyards and so we have a lot of wine growers that actually deliver the grapes to us but we're still a privately owned winery so it's not like a cooperative but it's from the the idea the difference is that for us they're wine growers that deliver the grapes and in the cooperative they basically buy a share and so they're shareholders of the cooperative so that's the main difference yeah it's I mean it's an area dominated by my small growers selling the cooperatives that's just a picture that's just a picture of the vineyard like I said I just stare at that forever because I love mountains that looks spectacular yeah thank you so much for thank you so much for thank you so much for being on let and one last small thing are you selling direct to consumers direct from the website your website absolutely we are we don't have an online shop right now we're working on it but you can everybody can email us and we ship in many countries in the world and it's definitely not a problem to ship to the Eastern half of Europe or anywhere else or even to the US if anybody wants we can also ship great so keep up the good work guys 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