 Yeah, I came into football in the late 50s post-war and I was forced enough to be coached by some very good coaches throughout that. My seniors football started with South Sydney Croatia which was now Sydney United, went into the national team before I transferred to St George and I eventually became the number one goalkeeper of 73 in the national team and then retired injured in 1977. Been with the club for over two years in the development area which really I like the development area that's what I like to do. Caching A-leagues good but I've been there done that, goes to the international level that was good too but my big interest is in development of goalkeepers so I've got the goalkeepers from 13 through to 20s which means over a period of time I'll have the time to work with them for three or four up to five years with them. The big thing here is I can have them, I just don't get them once a week I get them over a period of time where I can have them for up to five years if they come in 13s I might have them five or six years to bring them through and put our staff of what we want as a club on their playing style. We can progress them gradually and that's the right way to develop them over that period of time. Look I think we'll be able to turn things so we've got all Australian goalkeepers in the A-league, that's my aim and some of the younger ones it's too early to predict but Pamela Dixon who saw her base showing good signs of being something special. They're only young you know I mean the idea of when you develop them you develop them as characters as well as players so it you know the boys that have gone through that have made at the top level it's always satisfying but it's also satisfying to see players just reach their full potential some of aren't going to be world-class or good enough for A-league but you know if you can get them to reach their full potentials okay that's what it's about so satisfying.