 So we're here at Marvell and you're launching a new solution here for Wi-Fi. That's right. Hi, this is Jawaz from Marvell Semiconductor. We have announced today Marvell 8997 chipset, which is a 2x2 11ac wave 2 combo in 28 nanometer. It also supports Bluetooth 5.0 technology. It's the smallest most power efficient chipset, which is going to go into smartphones, tablets, TVs, gaming, set up boxes. So, you call it AvaStar. This is your Wi-Fi? What is that? Yeah, so AvaStar is our family of products for wireless connectivity. So today we have AvaStar 8887 and 8897 products, one by one AC, two by two AC. Again, going into all kinds of computing devices, mobile devices, gaming. Going forward, this will be a new chipset, 8997. Again, AvaStar family, you know, going into all these different market segments. Is this an ARM processor? What is this? This is based on an ARM core. It has an integrated ARM core. Do you say which one? Is it Cortex-M or what is it? It's a Cortex-M series. So, and then what is the trick? What is Marvell really doing in this kind of chip? I think the trick really is that especially, you know, the new feature about this 8997 that it's built in 28 nanometer, which is a very low-power process technology, and we're able to reduce the current consumption by over 40 percent, which is a huge reduction in current consumption for battery operated devices. All right. So right here you're showing a bunch of, you are basically in the Rockchip Chromebooks. That's right. So you are in Chromebook with the higher, the high sense. That's right. The Rockchips 3288, and so you provide their Wi-Fi and Bluetooth? That's right. So, Marvell today has a leadership position in the Chromebook space. Today, we are shipping on Samsung, Acer, HP Chromebook, and recently Rockchip based Chromebooks also, high sense and higher. So basically Google has it as a condition that the Chromebook needs to have a good Wi-Fi, and so you can't just go with a cheap, bad quality from somebody else. Is that it? That's right. I mean, I think we have we have always been in the leadership position, you know, the Google Chromebooks, we are always first to qualify. You know, they have certain requirements to qualify for the Chromebook. You have to be a stable, good Wi-Fi. Is that it? You have to have a robust connection, you know, solid quality Wi-Fi, you know, good Bluetooth, overall performance has to be excellent to go into these devices, because these Chromebooks are all about, you know, cloud connectivity. So Wi-Fi has to be super good. This is really important. And are you the best? We are absolutely... How's your competitor? Well, usual suspects, you know, we have the Broadcom is out there, Intel is out there, Qualcomm is out there. We beat all of them in this... You beat all of them in what? In when it comes to Chromebook performance, you know, in Wi-Fi, you know, being first to qualify on Google Chromebook platforms, we are number one. So it needs to be instantly connected, quickly searching the Wi-Fi, connecting. You're good at that. And the bandwidth and the range? Absolutely. So the Chromebooks today, they are using the 2x2 11ac, which... All of these? All of the Chromebooks, they are using 2x2. Yeah, this one too. Some of them are 11 and 2x2. The newer ones, for example, like iSense and Fire, they are 11ac 2x2. So this... So 2x2 doubles the range. So your effective rate of a range improves and it doubles. So you have a more robust connection. So how does it work? Is there a 2x2 right here? Does that mean there's two antennas? Or how does it work? Yes, it has two antennas. Where do they put them, usually? Usually, you know, they spread it out so that the performance is optimized. So it's maybe even down here, up there, behind or somewhere? You know, it's hard to say all these OEMs, they do different configurations for antenna based on, you know, what are the other antennas inside the device? That's important too, right? The antenna. You don't make the antenna, do you? We don't do antennas ourselves, but we provide some expertise to help our OEMs, you know, do their antenna designs. So you work with the antenna suppliers? We don't work directly with them, but, you know, we do do some characterization on antennas and we tell our OEMs that, you know, if you do this kind of placement, you're going to get best performance with the 2x2. You know, if you want to do a Bluetooth antenna also, you can do this. So we make suggestions to them based on our expertise. Are you in this solution? Is it in the Chromecast? Because Chromecast is an important Wi-Fi too, right? It's very important Wi-Fi. I can't say what solution is in the new Chromecast because it's not announced yet. Because these solutions that you're talking about right here in this one, this is module. Does that mean you always work as a module or do you go directly in the PCB? It goes in all form factors. So that's why, you know, we, in this solution you can see this is CSP, which can be directly chip on board solution on a PCB. Then you can go a QFN form factor. So QFN is basically, it's a package which can also go directly as in like a chip on board configuration. And then finally we have module options. This particular module right here, this is called the M2-2230 module which is an industry standard spec. This can plug in directly into a PCIe form factor into, you know, for example, like an Intel Bay Trail or any of those processes which are, you know, which you've seen in most of the laptops and Chromebooks and so on. So this is used for qualification purposes. So how do manufacturers choose one or the other? Why would they choose one or the other? Does it take longer time to integrate on the board so they do just a module? I think it's really a cost decision and a performance decision for an OEM. So obviously if you do chip on board, it's the lowest cost. But if you want to do highest performance, you know, you want to engage a module partner, you know, who can do the qualification for you, who can do the testing for you and really give you a turnkey solution which is good to go for an OEM. So that's why you would use a module. It's for turnkey? For turnkey solution which is good to go. And then the other advantage is that once you have a module done, you've done the certification and all that, you know, all the qualification is done. So you can take that module and you can, you know, basically flatten it out to, you know, multiple products. So you don't have to qualify it again. So I'm not an expert at all but I would guess that the on board solution is lower power consumption than the module. Actually, I don't think that current consumption would be much different between a chip on board solution versus a module solution because really I think that's the chip's capability. For example, you know, this chip set right here, the 8997, this is built based on 28 nanometer process technology and we have reduced the current consumption by over 40% which is a huge improvement, you know, on top of any existing solutions which are out there in the market. 40% compared to the previous one? Chipsets, predecessors as well as we think, you know, it's going to be very competitive in the market because today there is no Wi-Fi Bluetooth combo chip in the market built on 28 nanometer process technology. So we've done a lot of, you know, power islanding and memory architecture in a way that it's going to be really, really low power. What is nanometer in the previous generation? 40 nanometer. So it's 40, going to 28 nanometer. Is this the demo of a real one? That's a real demo, 8997, we just got this chip back in our lab like two weeks ago so we wanted to bring this out on a board, just play a simple YouTube video using a 2.40 gigahertz channel and it's good to go. It's working. It's working. So what is this Wave 2? Is that the next thing? Yeah, so 11AC Wave 2 is a new feature which enables multi-user MIMO. Multi-user MIMO is a new feature for 11AC which essentially really increases the overall network throughput per client. So once you have multiple devices on one network, so with multi-user MIMO each client can gain more throughput and get more robust connectivity to the internet. So that's the trick. Every time with Wi-Fi they find ways to combine several antennas and then now the next thing is even with many users they're still going to get faster bandwidth somehow. Absolutely. Is this some kind of magic? Well, the progression is amazing, right? So you started with a simple 11B, 11G technologies, then you went to 11A which was addition of 5 gig band, then you went to 11AC, you know, then you went to 2x2s. So now multi-user MIMO and I think this progression is amazing and it goes on and we're very excited to be part of that. Wave 2 and the previous, what's the difference in bandwidth? Not doubling or something. What's going on? What's the announcement? Really, I think the bandwidth is still with 11AC, the bandwidth is still 80 megahertz. The progression really is this multi-user MIMO technology which really improves the network efficiency and it can pump more throughput over the network. So it's overall more efficient network where multiple devices, all of them can have a more robust connection. And what is Bluetooth 5.0? So, good question. So today, we hear about Bluetooth 4.2, which is where the spec is today. Now, Bluetooth SIG is going to do a major upgrade on Bluetooth early next year. It's called the Shanghai Release. So, we don't know whether it will be Bluetooth 4.3 or 5.0, but what we have done is we've done some future proofing for our Wi-Fi chipsets and combos. So we've added hardware support for most of the features which are going to be part of the Bluetooth 5.0. So when it gets announced, our chips will be kind of future proof and will support features like BLE location, LTE coax, 2 megabits per second, LE. So a lot of cool features, especially related to BLE, Bluetooth Low Energy Technology, which are going to be in the future Bluetooth 5.0 release. So this chip will have future support for that. Is it somehow you can guarantee that? How about if they add stuff to 5.0 or 4.3 that somehow you couldn't cover because you didn't know? Well, there will always be stuff that you can't cover, right? Is it software update? It's a rolling spec. It's not frozen yet from the Bluetooth SIG standpoint. So today, where we stand, we know that most of the major features are rolled in and we've added support for that. But there's something in the future, obviously, in our future chipsets will have those. All right. So you said there was what's called a better bandwidth. And those three things, the LTE doesn't interfere with it or something? Yeah. So the main features for Bluetooth 5.0, number one, the LE throughput is doubling. So you're going from 1 megabit per second to 2 megabit per second LE. So that's number one. Number two is LTE coax where it's basically an additional software and hardware to improve coax with LTE devices as well as with other Bluetooth devices which are operating in the neighborhood. That's number two. Number three, very important feature is BLE location. So indoor location is hot. Wi-Fi indoor location is being solved through some technologies. BLE angle measurements are going to be used in order to identify the relative direction of different objects. So kind of compass-like functionality that you can do with BLE. Now add Wi-Fi location to it which can tell you distance. So now you have a full solution. You can tell that that person is standing in that direction 10 meters away. So it's going to be reliable indoor navigation? It's going to be extremely reliable sub one meter location accuracy, precise indoor navigation. Positioning, what's called orientation? You can do orientation. So depending upon the device, so you can use Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, you can use sensors and then you could add all kinds of other like fingerprinting technologies and PDR to make it really more accurate. With two waves, did you add more antennas? Is that why it's like this or was it the same number of antennas and so forth? So with the two by two, either you can use two antennas and basically share the Bluetooth antenna or you could use three antennas where you know you dedicate a third antenna to Bluetooth so that when Wi-Fi and Bluetooth when they're both operating so they don't impact you know the bandwidth of the throughput used by each other. So yeah so here we are demoing a three antenna solution. We can do two antennas, we can do three antennas. It really depends upon the customer design.