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Yeah, it's good for my my dentiferous dentiferous Is that is that a plant? Like a coniferous or a fern I Think it as I think it's the dental ecosystem That would be the paste or powder for cleaning the teeth. Ah We're both wrong Well my chewy comm package arrived which is I got a whole thing going on with chewy now because I'm really buying a lot of cat and dog food, but It is yeah, exactly It was just the stuff that I'm buying is just way cheaper than it is on Amazon. So it's like, okay Well, I'll just order from that a Super Bowl commercial touting that actually did they I missed that one I mean, it wasn't a special commercial. It was just right. Yeah, it's yeah Do a comparison and you'll see that our prices are lower But also with cat litter and like I get a lot out of time because you know, you go through it or whatever It's like the chin the way that chewy just Packages everything. It's like I can't get those boxes up the stairs What I have to do is like break down the boxes at the bottom of the stairs of my building and bring up things like one at a Time because I just I physically I'm not strong enough to do that That's why they're they're announcing their new chewy winch available now for select customers Thank goodness, but and the the stairs are kind of precarious, too It's like I just think I'm gonna die the whole time, but you know, whatever it's minor inconvenience Whatever except Why is my dog can eat so you might die stop being so selfish You know lifts your legs But the problem is is that that my chewy my latest chewy order arrived and I've since had to buy this new dog food It's like special So it's even bigger than it normally is and the boxes have gotten soaked in the rain And now the boxes were kind of disintegrating and I can't imagine my neighbors are thrilled Because they have to use those same stairs as me and it's just it's a it's a carnage By the way, if you're wondering where Patrick Beja is he's out sick today He wasn't feeling well, and I told him sleep Yeah, he said, you know what that's a good idea. I'm gonna do that. So that's why he's nice. I Know that feeling, you know, we're like But I'll be better and then you're sort of like I'm worse. This is horrible Well, can you read line three today then? I Can do that you can do anything. I know you can Except take things upstairs Incredibly bulky packages. All right. I am ready to break for Daily Tech news show. All right three two Daniel our hula hand has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Daniel become a DTNS member at patreon.com slash DTNS This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday February 5th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from Studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and I have the show's producer who doesn't know what month it is No one would have known that if he hadn't admitted it. That's the kind of guy our producer Russia Chang is Hey, you know what? I'm still writing 2018 on the checks even though I don't write checks I had to I had to think about what month it was when I was when I was doing Daily Tech headlines this morning I was like, it's January right now. Actually, it's not no, it's February. It's February 5th And if you're saying wait a minute It's also a Tuesday. Where's Patrick Beja? Patrick is sick and we told him to get some sleep get better Rest up and so that is what he is doing if you miss Patrick's voice Monthly video game briefing just had a new episode come out so you can hear a healthy Patrick in that episode Go check that out for now though. Let's start with a few tech things you should know Alphabet's Q4 earnings report showed that the company took more than 1.3 billion dollars of operating losses in its other bets category That category includes its experimental x-lab the internet group access LTE balloon initiative loon Drone delivery project wing and self-driving car unit Waymo on the sales side It was rosier the company earned more than 39 billion dollars last quarter with a profit of 8.2 billion dollars net revenue was up 23% from the same quarter last year, but some payments to partners also rose 26% You wait though one of these days one of those other bets is gonna pay off. It's gonna pay off big That's what Larry and Sergey a new Chrome browser extension called password checkup is available It checks your login credentials against a database of compromised account It's now that database is maintained by Google, but it sounds similar to have I been pwned, which is a public database Google uses a technique called blinding to create a secret search index And then your credentials are anonymized with an argon to hash and encrypted with elliptic curve Cryptography all in order to reassure you that neither Google nor anyone else is looking at your passwords When the extension compares it to the database It's just checking to see if they match a known breached account So they can alert you and say hey you should probably change this password Apple confirmed to Reuters that has reached a deal with French authorities to back pay the country 500 million euros in taxes Apple's French branch confirmed this tax agreement But didn't confirm the amount although French magazine Express reported that the sum was as much as it was and said that the deal was finalized back in December All right, let's talk a little bit about Facebook messenger Facebook's gonna let you delete messages from a conversation after you've sent them They'll give you up to ten minutes to do it Which means the person on the other end could have seen it But now you can pull it back from both sides of the conversation if you want last April Facebook announced that it would Build an unsend feature for all users within the next few months after it was spotted that CEO Mark Zuckerberg Already had the feature it's rolling out to Android and iOS right this second if you don't have it already you'll get it soon We have talked about this on the show before because I was like I've always been of the mind of if you can delete something But the other it's not deleted everywhere. That's not a delete feature at all It's also gotten me into hot water more than once before I realized what was going on because I thought I Sent something to Tom and I don't see the little scene or the timestamp of when Tom saw it and I delete it Then it's gone Tom will never see this but that's not true at all. That's not how it works Particularly when people get email notifications about messages and some people have that turned on in fact I would wonder how that would work Maybe right you're still gonna you're still gonna have that kind of stuff happen So maybe send it it can't unsend the email if a notification happened But if it waits 10 minutes to send the email. Oh, yeah, maybe it does then you could get around it that way I love this and it's not because it's not because I don't know I want to be deleting messages all that often, but it comes up every so often I've it's a little weird to me that Facebook's like, okay Well, we're offering this feature, but you can also just delete it for yourself if you prefer You can delete everybody or just for yourself. I'm not sure how often you could you not delete it I assume you could always delete it for for yourself, but I guess maybe I don't use Facebook Messenger that you couldn't there You could I just don't understand why that feature exists Well, that's when you ever want to do that if you want to delete anything in your screen Like I just don't want to see this anymore, right? Like I know it's out there I know it was sent, but I want to look at it the next time Maybe you had an argument in your text message and you're over it All right, the next time you text message the person you don't want to see this hanging around in the background Okay, I've used it for similar situations before where I'm just like, you know what? I want to clear this clear this history and get a clean start But yeah, it it can lead to confusion if people think oh, that's still that's unsending it It's not but we'll now for Facebook Messenger at least you have that option. Well, you got 10 minutes anyway Toyota and Sumitomo Mitsui Auto Service are launching a gamified car subscription service called Kinto in Japan The Kinto one level that's you choose either a Prius or a Corolla sports and Alphard a valley fire or a crown Haven't heard of some of those cars and pay between $20 and $900 per month. I think it's more than that I think that's a typo. I think it's like 400 to 900. Oh Wow, well then the Prius is pretty affordable Kinto select gives you a Lexus for $1,630 per month Toyota said that drivers will be awarded points based on things like safe or ecological drivers I mean the points could then be used to reduce your monthly payments Kinto select That's the one with the Lexus the more expensive one is available now and Keto one arrives March 1st Both are on a trial basis from select dealers in Tokyo The plan is to roll out more widely this summer and the points program won't launch until at least autumn So you have to be willing to be surveilled by the company You're leasing or renting or whatever you call this your car from right because that's the only way this works And they haven't detailed what constitutes safe driving what constitutes ecological driving Which is probably why they're not launching this program until autumn there. They're probably still nailing down Exactly how they want this to operate so that people feel like it's a benefit But they don't bankrupt themselves with a point system that goes out of control or can be gamed too easily or whatever But all those concerns aside, let's assume for the sake of argument that it's transparent What data they're collecting about you and how it works for these points. What do you think of this idea of? Encouraging better driving habits in order to give you a break on your car rental service or your lease well, I Because again, this is a for-profit idea I wonder why the car companies would care all that much unless for some reason They are in a better position when they can say well all of our drivers never exceed the speed limit I would think it would be a couple of reasons one is customer acquisition right now these subscription services are new So if you can be like ooh that one actually guy I could have a chance of reducing my payment I'm gonna try that and to They these these cars are either going to be put back out to other subscribers or sold off as used cars and the better Shape they're in they're in you know the better for the service as a whole Yeah, I guess I just if data is being collected and Let's say safe driving has a lot to do with going the speed limit or not Right, so if I exceed the speed limit that data is going somewhere. Sure. Maybe I won't get in trouble for it But it would give me pause because I know that if law enforcement catches me going over the speed limit Then I get in trouble, but I don't want to get in trouble with the company I'm leasing a car from well There's also gonna concern is Toyota gonna share this with my insurance company which Insurance companies do this to where they say hey if you want to track your data We'll give you a break on your insurance if you're a safe driver and they have their own metrics for that But that's also voluntary. So it does it does play into the data collection thing and I think for me the The devil's in the details, you know what what constitutes safe or ecological driving How much can I actually get a discount? That that that makes all the difference all the way down to $20 per month 420, I'm sorry Last October IBM announced Thelira AI it's spelled P H I L Y R a it was meant to develop new scents for the fragrance industry So in addition to developing new scents, it can also identify alternative materials So you could make the same scent if you were running out of a of an ingredient Recommended amounts based on usage so people wouldn't waste their perfume It helped a company called Simrise create two new perfumes for the beauty company. Oh, Boti. Cario Oh, and now the Philly are AI has got a new job as part of a platform to help McCormick create new flavor profiles And of course smell is part of taste. So this makes sense Philly are I can use data on flavors and spices Along with sales and marketing data from McCormick to improve recipes and tailor them to specific regions So your kosher version your vegan version your low sodium version that can all taste very similar to the regular version McCormick also hopes to create an iconic food product Like its own French is yellow mustard or something like Pringles or Tootsie roll or something like that The first new recipe mix flavors coming out from McCormick as a part of this collaboration are Tuscan chicken Bourbon pork tenderloin and New Orleans sausage, and they're expected to be on grocery shelves by the end of the spring Well, and these are the these are just flavoring. So yeah So McCormick makes mixes so you can make sauces or stews or rub Stuff like that they all do you most people are probably familiar with them as making spices But they also make these these sort of helper mixes It's interesting when I first read the story I was like how is you know Fragrance and then how does it translate to food? But you make a good point that that taste and smell are very Intricately linked and sure if I want my soup to taste like New Orleans sausage And it's the best one then that's the flavor packet. I'm gonna buy yeah There's all kinds of things this can do what one is optimized the flavor So it's like oh these are the ones that our data shows people think taste the best and we'll combine those flavors and it'll work But it could also come up with new flavors, right new new products And I think that's what McCormick is banking on is we're gonna have the next Pringles It's gonna it's gonna tell us how to how to make something that nobody else has made before although McCormick doesn't really make too Many things like that. I guess a new mustard or ketchup or sauce or something might be might be in the offing Well, and if you're vegan or kosher or yeah, you want something that's low sodium Your options historically have been quite limited. You know, you got a whole grocery store And you got maybe one aisle of of stuff that's made specifically for your dietary needs So if these sorts of flavorings can be absolutely legitimately kosher, but tastes as Well, I don't know kosher reading is actually pretty good already, but okay. Let's say it's Low sodium is probably a better example Exactly low sodium, but but but you wish you could eat all the salts and then and your your taste buds are Fooled so to speak then that's pretty cool. Yeah It's good start anyway Okay engineers at Dartmouth College have invented a no no no no no no you got DJ Marshmallow first Oh, sorry Tom, sorry Tom. Yes, of course. How could I forget on February 2nd? DJ name Marshmallow as in mellow not mellow played a concert in fortnight That players could watch for free if they move their avatar to Pleasant Park, which is where the concert was on Twitter Jeff Keeley said that his sources say more than 10 million concurrent players watched that concert That's a lot of people. There is of course Marshmallow export night merchandise available for sale an extended mix of the fortnight set Is also available on Apple music Exclusively Marshmallow also announced that a collaboration with Bollywood composer pre-Tom and artist Shirley Sophia called Beba is being released worldwide on the in-house label of Spotify rival Geo saving which is one of India's largest streaming services. That's not an exclusive though It's available pretty much all over the place. Yeah, but it's it's it's interesting Martin DJ the DJ Marshmallow Has has now Impressed me by saying, you know where I'm gonna find the biggest audience I could possibly find in fortnight like yeah No, that makes sense and then saying I See that at the top of the YouTube charts consistently are Indian music artists So I'm gonna work with someone who sings in Hindu and release this on an Indian hot streaming label I'm not gonna do it exclusive because that would be that would be counterproductive So I'm gonna put it on Spotify and YouTube and everywhere, but this is going to push my music out more and more I mean, this is the cutting edge of what a musician should be doing and I read up a little bit I'm not familiar with Marshmallow that much although I played some of the songs and I recognize them So I must must have been hearing them but it sounds like Marshmallow is someone who has been very careful about the model in that What the DJ does is signs licenses with the artists they collaborate with and then Put the records out on that collaboration artist label rather than signing to a particular label that you didn't have to put everything out I was gonna mention. He's one of the new breed of artists and then Finney was not familiar with Marshmallow. He's same vein as dead mouse He I think He's right. It's like there's this collaborative collaboration But also not kind of tying yourself to a single label where you're restricted in what you can do And you see this with a lot of new artists where they collaborate with not just big-name artists, but other similar artists in order to gain More name recognition, but also to put their music out to a wider audience. I Watched a little bit of the Concert and my first reaction was what I there's like not 10 million people dancing here But you didn't have to have your avatar participate as I understand it. You could just sit back and enjoy Yeah, and I don't think it could display all 10 million avatars Yeah, look like a happy 50 avatars or so jamming out it was it's it's it's I don't know. It's it's smart I was not familiar with Marshmallow either Tom So don't feel bad Roger you were the coolest one of us Rogers on the cutting edge of music I'm not cool Just my daughter needs to go through a lot of different music and that's one of that that's one of the Top-profiled artists on YouTube. Gotcha. Do you run into a lot of Indian music like like music business worldwide was saying? There are a lot of artists that borrow heavily from kind of the Bollywood style and it's it's Pardon me more apparent than it used to be And I think it's a growing trend where people are trying to find new influences and new sounds So they can be unique and literally in a world of millions and millions of really talented people I have to say I love it when Marshmallow collaborates. I want some more Now those engineers at Dartmouth they've been waiting they got bumped by Marshmallow I'm sorry engineers at Dartmouth College have invented a dime-sized device that converts kinetic energy from your heartbeat Into electricity in order to power implanted devices particularly Pacemakers it uses a thin piece of polymer piezoelectric film called PVDF to create the electricity In fact in a pacemaker situation It can take the kinetic energy from the lead of the pacemaker that's that's touching the heart and Convert that electrists that into electricity that can then recharge the batteries of the pacemaker The PVDF can also be used as a sensor to provide real-time Information about the heartbeat the results of a three-year study were published in advanced materials technologies and the first round of animal studies Supposedly went well and the results of that will be published soon If you have to have your pacemaker's battery changed you have to undergo surgery I mean the thing is in plan unless it's external like but if the pacemaker's implanted you have to go under you have to Go through anesthesia. They have to open up your chest and they have to pull out the battery and put in the new one It's a routine surgery, but it's not without risk. It's not entirely risk-free And so if you could make the pacemaker's battery last for the life of the patient That's that's a big plus is How long would a pacemaker battery be expected to last currently? I don't have an answer to that but it is I don't either because it is something that is in the order of Years sure not not decades. Yeah Undergo surgery and like you said there's risk and just yeah discomfort and Healing process and all of that stuff. It is a so it is a somewhat routine surgery And and people do it all the time, but there's a risk of infection like you say and all of that so eliminating that is huge and Typically the patients that receive that type of surgery or that type of implant tend to be older and so You run a higher risk of Recuperation and the rest so so it's I mean it's not Tom said routine, but there's always risk Biocow says in our chat room that a lot of the pacemakers are just under the skin So it's a minor surgery may not require anesthesia all the time Potentially, but but it's way cooler if your heartbeat is doing it for you My heartbeat powers the pacemaker which makes my heartbeat That's so it's a perpetual motion machine in my chest. That's amazing. It's amazing Just be kind in those animal studies doctors. Yes. Yes, okay. Well, they're keeping the hearts beating for these animals Going to pretend to myself and I think about it To get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Don't forget our other show daily tech headlines at daily tech headlines.com. Go subscribe right now Microsoft's chief online safety officer is Jacqueline Boucher posted a post today Titled people around the world report increased civility online new Microsoft research shows That's right in creased civility You may not feel it, but apparently the numbers are there Let's talk about what they found how they determined it and then Sarah and I and Roger will try to figure out What it means Microsoft's digital civility index is being measured for three years now It measures exposure to risk. So it's like a golf score. The lower the score the better The risk this time is 66 percent. So you want it to be low. That's not terribly low But it's two points below last year. So things are getting more civil It is however one point higher than two years ago. So it's not necessarily You know the best we've been in the three years. We got a lot of work worse. Yeah, we're getting a little better Exactly now this may surprise you though Four countries performed much better in this year's civility index the US Went down ten points Germany went down eight points France down six in Belgium down five online risks experienced by family and friends of respondents fell five points to 63 percent and Unwanted contact is still the highest risk That's I'm getting harassed by somebody or somebody's contacting me that I don't want that still fell four points to 40 percent In fact, it was really the only one that fell It's driving most of the index has changed but it is still the highest risk and it's falling now Consequences of exposure like loss of trust or stress or losing sleep Lowering your participation in social networks and blogs, etc. That increased So even though the civility got better the consequences of being exposed to in the civility Got worse Positive actions to address risks also fell people stopped doing things to make life better even though it was getting better However, there's a couple other positive 42 percent of teens asked parents for help. That's up 32 percent from the prior year Family and friends accounted for 28 percent of online risks, which is up 11 points But you could interpret that as a good thing meaning fewer strangers are Harassing each other which would cause the percentage of family and friends to rise because you're always gonna have a certain percentage from the people You know the UK has the lowest risk overall at 50 percent the US is second at 51 percent France's third at 52 percent the worst of the three in the survey are Peru 79 percent South Africa 78 percent and Chile 75 percent Now I know whenever we have these surveys people want to know okay, but how did they do this? It's a survey between May 4th and May 31st of last year 2018. They surveyed 11,157 teens and adults They split at 50 50 between men and women spread equally across 22 countries Asking about exposure to online risks across four categories reputation behavior sexual and personal or intrusive The countries changed they added Canada and Singapore they removed Australia China and Japan But there's a section in the PowerPoint that shows that even if you had included The countries you removed these more recent data would not have changed So they feel like they've got a better mix this time now Microsoft recommends that there are things you can do to increase civility online You can act with empathy and compassion the golden rule do unto others as you would do unto yourself respect differences honor different perspectives and when disagreement surface engage thoughtfully avoid name-calling and personal attacks Pause before replying. This is the biggest one. I do for myself is just wait Don't post or send anything until you've had a chance to calm down and stand up for yourself and others if you see People being abusive or cruel in other places report threatening activity preserve evidence of inappropriate or unsafe behavior So even though overall this this isn't much of a change a couple of percentage points It's a big change in Germany the US France and Belgium Sarah And is this just sort of like well, it's it's too close to call or or are we turning the corner? Are we learning? I sure would like to think that we're learning a survey of 11,000 and some change teens and adults that are split 50 50 between men and women Across 22 countries is not that many people from each country So if you want to break down the survey, it's like well, that's still probably Country but they are they are selected with with an emphasis on being representative. So absolutely and you might also say Okay, well, this is a Microsoft research study. What do they get out of it? But I don't know the the takeaways that Tom you just went through all sound like really nice decent human behavior Not you should use Microsoft Bing. That's the way to stay happier online that kind of thing. So so yeah, I I Don't gosh, I've seen so much Terrible online behavior We all have we all know what that is and and and the different categories of What abuse would be and and making people feel sad online and that sort of thing I know certainly my community on Twitter has become extremely vocal about when someone's getting harassed and there are Certain measures that companies are putting into place sometimes a little bit more slowly than we'd like but I do believe that it's going in that direction and that are those are all tools at least on the company side to try to keep people Have a good time on social media. So I think that that's probably lending itself to to a better trend I wonder about the the country is who are doing the worst and if that is just If it's a cultural thing that perhaps we don't understand I Would I would also propose that while it could be cultural it could also be Places where the internet is newer for more people where internet penetration was not as high recently Because what I would like to think is that we are going to learn how to deal with these new ways of communicating We will get better and more civil as time goes on and we get more familiar with them and that maybe This will show that I don't think it shows it yet A two-point change is not enough for me to feel hope for the future yet a ten point change in the US though That's something to take a look at and hope that it continues to be a trend You need you're gonna need to have a few more years of this study before I feel comfortable, but Likewise Chile and South Africa if they start to go down over the years, maybe that shows like oh, yeah No, it was just the people were just getting used to these new ways of communicating there Roger, were you gonna weigh in? I was gonna say one quick thing in that Probably a lot of it has to do with awareness and not in a social level awareness Not just just you know campaigns that that show flyers or commercials, but people saying hey, you don't do that That's kind of you're being a jerk. You know where where you are literally kind of You're kind of reined in by so societal norms in the same way that like Public news being a public nuisance or you know a jerk and in the yeah, yeah, this is considered Bad by most people. Yeah, and that that's part of being more familiar as we get used to These new tools we get used to what the norm should be so the newer you are to it the More trouble you're likely to have and I think that the note about Consequences of exposure. So that's you're stressed out. You don't sleep. Well, you don't want to be online as much I can certainly say that I've Experienced all of those things. Yeah, and sometimes walking away and being like, you know I don't want to be on Facebook right now or what wherever the network is wherever you're hanging out online that that is an Unsafe or unpleasant place to be Causes a lot of people to say I'll just take a step back and then you sleep better Because whatever is going on is not right in front of your face. I think it's cumulative too like even though The civility may be getting better the fact that you've put up with it for years makes you tolerate it less Which is why you might be seeing a stronger reaction a stronger consequences even as the Incivility is reduced. Yes, absolutely when you get older, you just don't want to deal with it It was fun when I was a kid Wow Hey, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit, you're all wonderful and pleasant people We're happy to have you can submit stories and vote on them a daily tech news show dot reddit dot com also on facebook dot Com a very nice group slash groups slash daily tech news show Real quickly real quickly before we we check in breaking news Thank you. G peg for for alerting me to this in the chat room Angela errant's announced. She's leaving Apple retail in April. Huh? Yeah Arons has been about five years for her spring 2014. So, yeah, just about five years Deirdre O'Brien the HR leader at Apple will take over as head of Apple retail and online store operations and Continue to lead the HR team Yeah, I was gonna say that's it. That's a is that a lateral move, but I guess she's just really good at lots of things Mm-hmm. Well, yeah, ask Apple employee. Maybe before you say that All right, that's let's check in now with Chris Christensen I'd be amateur traveler on a way that a love of flight might pave the way for a different kind of love This is Chris Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute I've talked on this segment about keeping track of your trips with the trippett app But there's another app that's come on my radar, which is the app in the air Which is a competitor to that you can use it to keep track of your trips as well as your frequent flyer programs But there's another feature that it has which is you can use it to connect with people in their network Who are nearby? They're nearly a million frequent flyers who are using the app And some of them apparently are now doing frequent flyer dating Using the nearby feature of the app in the air So if you're looking to find another frequent flyer, you might check it out I'm chris christensen from amateur traveler So many jokes so many jokes And I won't make any okay. I'll make this one. Uh, I bet they fight over who gets to pay with their points card for dinner Good joke tom very good joke No, it's kind of like I I wanted to snicker a little bit at this too But if you are in sitting in a plane that often for business Or for whatever reason and and many people are That might be where you might meet someone more often than at the grocery store. Yeah makes sense. Yeah All right, let's move on to our mailbag Jinx tim had some thoughts on our conversation yesterday about whether people Are really aware of how ads on social networks and platforms work And if they really care tim says until very recently I was unaware of facebook's ad settings page Even though i've been using facebook for many years and I invested in my personal security and privacy When I first visited that page, I smiled thinking boy, do they have that wrong as I looked at some of the items They thought I was interested in I was tempted to correct it But then I had another thought what if I just picked complete nonsense just to mess up the algorithm Early last year. I downloaded all facebook's data about me I was pleased to find that I had only ever clicked on about 40 ads in the many years I've used facebook I've never bought anything based on any of those ads And so I decided to leave my facebook ad settings alone as they support just the behavior that I want to exhibit Namely not falling for ads. Sorry facebook advertisers. You're not making any money off of me well, okay, um I am of the opinion that ads Aren't evil in and of themselves if they're right I always use movie trailers as the example like I want movie trailers I want those ads I want people to show me what movies look like so I can decide what what movies to see And I I know some people don't look at trailers because of spoilers whatever but that's an example of a good ad So I would rather have a system where the ads are only for things that I wanted to know about Rather than I think the problem with ads is not that they exist. It's that they're A waste of my time and an exploitive and and and undermining my privacy I want that to go away But I do want useful ads that are respectful of my privacy that tell me about things that I wouldn't have known of Otherwise that I want to know about someday. Maybe we'll get that Uh, well, thanks for the feedback and thanks to everybody who sends us mail every day. 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Oh, that is an excellent question. AI aroma intelligence. That's good. That's not bad Okay IBM's new AI makes sense McCormick's adds a dash of AI Roger the coolest dts member Don't don't mock me. No. No, I don't think it was mocking. It's not a mock It's it's it's starting to unnerve me how little I know about things that everyone's like what? 10 million people in ford and I watch this concert. I'm like, I don't know marshmallow Which leads us to a fortnight to remember you might get Fortnight to remember that's actually good. That's what I like That's pretty good. All right. Roger likes it perpetual heart. Don't don't take my Don't take my word for it, but you don't have to take our word for it so I think you um The big one is uh marshmallow with the steel to do the song happier I like the steel and I know he did something with collid um and There was some other band Yeah, because I kind of looked him up too. I was like, uh, they in that story from the music biz That we linked to they mentioned a few they mentioned the collid one I know let me pull that up music business worldwide.com had it It's really hard to keep track though. I mean, there's just so many new artists rolling out every month They're also we're now in in that era where There's the music producer who's Sometimes a collaborator and so they're not 100 of just a musical artist They're doing all sorts of stuff and or maybe they're just on the remix and Happier featuring best deal silence featuring collid and friends featuring anmarie No, I don't know anmarie either, but I definitely know of a steel In fact, I really like them whatever happened to them. I guess they'd collabed with dj marshmallow. That's right. That's what happens It's what you do now. Like it's collab Collab collab. That's why we have You know patrick bezia and jester robber young and scott johnson on the show Collabbing actually i'm talking to this week in science about doing like regular Collabs where We like each of us would go on their show I don't know once a year or something And each of them would come on to our show Not an appearance more No, well, I I just don't want to over do it. It'd be like we're going to be on your show all the time But sure, of course, like once a quarter one of us would go on Let's say as an example So so one quarter it would be me when next quarter would be sarah and next quarter would be roger and vice versa Blair and justin and kiki they could all Possibly so we're we're trying to figure out how that might work Oh, but collapse collabs are the thing uh, brine brushwood and I are are cooking up a collab Uh for the modern rogue in june that i'm very excited about because it involves whiskey, so Well, that does sound good Tom you're you're a collab happy guy. I'm collab happy you're all you are I I don't Know how you do it How do you do so many collabs? Um, I probably make it sound like I'm doing more than I am No, I know you have like a hundred million shows. Well, yeah, I do have a lot of shows Um, I probably just shouldn't would be my answer. Maybe maybe I should cut back No, well, no, I mean if you enjoy it and it's you know, it's it's good stuff It can be stressful sometimes. Yeah, well, I think it's that it's that Going back to having a ton of self-discipline because you have to make your own schedule Yeah, you have to stick to that schedule And when you add something into that schedule, it's always so easy to be like, oh, let's do a show It's gonna be great. And then you sort of look and go. Okay. I have one hour at 8 a.m. on wednesdays Hmm that used to be when I had coffee Yeah No, seriously there there was a point where I had so much going on That I couldn't schedule calls with people I'd be like, I I don't have time to talk. I could talk to you at 8 p.m. Tonight Like Like people like and and even like not even like people who wanted to cold pitch me or whatever, but like With you or Veronica, right? You know, somebody's like, hey, let's talk about so like that. I think it's on thankfully having you on the show Uh bringing in rich on on uh, daily tech headlines having Jenny and the and then Roger, you know, all of that started to help me Figure out, you know, yeah What else can I realistically do and and not just but it's why It's what you know, it's why we want to make more money on the show It's not because we're greedy and you know, you know, we want to just rake in the dollars Although, you know, who doesn't but it's because we we want to be able to do more stuff Yeah, we can't we're only humans. Yeah, so we need more resources to be able to do more things Yeah, I actually have a um a project that I'm working on with a friend of mine Where I'm going to be producing her podcast and more on that When she feels like yeah, but uh, she's on the east coast and Our just the three hour difference is a constant issue with us. Yeah Because somebody will be like, oh, I thought you meant 4 p.m. Eastern I'd be like, no, that would be 1 p.m. My time. Like I will never be able to do that Yeah, we've talked about this, you know that sort of thing. It's like they're just they're a little scheduling Just little whack them. It's like a whack-a-mole game. It's all Figure out a bowl, but it can be really challenging when you're not just like, okay I go to this one place and then I work there all day and then I go home for eight hours ago Yeah, sometimes I miss that I don't I don't miss other things about it But I sometimes miss that simplicity of like I clock in a clock Yeah, yeah, I I I usually don't miss it But what I when I feel stressed out about and it's usually because I've over scheduled myself and then I'm just stressed And I shouldn't have done that in the first place right right kind of goes back to me But I'll just be like just you know, can I just like sit at a cube? I didn't want any of the things that happened in those hours, maybe But the idea yeah, yeah Yeah But I think I I I think in general And it depends on the kind of person you are but being able to Be a freelancer or work for yourself In in the capacity that we do is pretty cool I Brian Brian was asking me yesterday if I was after five years Into the entrepreneurial part of it. I'm like no, it's like it's like brushing my teeth like it's something I have to do I just want to make my shoes though Yeah, oh, you mean sort of the business side? I don't think a business side of things. I'm like me You know, I've had so many folks over the years sort of because I've Done lots of tv and web series and the whole thing if people go, why don't you start your own network? And I go, well, it sounds hard a lot of work. That's why Yeah, it's like it's and it's I'm not just dismissing the idea But I don't that doesn't appeal to me the way it would appeal to a lot of people And who would like the idea of having a crew and right and paying them and and and managing Those are there are lots of aspects of that that I I don't I don't think I would enjoy even though I haven't tried it And I can already hear some of my friends who are into that sort of thing saying yeah, but This this is how you you know You grow your enterprise and give you the ability to do more things And you delegate and you hire people to do that stuff that you don't like and I'm like You're saying that because you like The the the ride that that takes you on and that's fine There's nothing wrong with that but a lot of the self-help books and the business advice out there Sometimes sound to me like be like a be a person like me be my personality type And then do these things and you'll be successful and it's like well not all of us enjoy That personality type. Yeah So I don't know there's also yeah, there there are folks who are really good at managing a team and I have been in situations where I've managed a few people or more people depending on where I worked or no or no people and managing people is Hard Yeah, it is especially if you do know and this is what I learned especially if you don't get to choose the people you You That can be super hard. Yeah when you're given a difficult team And it's even with great people though. It's like, I don't know someone gets sick or there's some drama between Whatever or there's just there's a breakdown in communication and it's like I I have found in the past that I end up going like, what is this my problem? I I just figured out I'm gonna try to speak too far out of school here But Eileen my wife is the senior director of production for fandango and rotten tomatoes. She has a big team Uh, she got to hire most of them. She put together this team. She's very proud of this team But one of the things she has found where and and I say I have to be careful because She loves her team. Don't get me wrong. She thinks it's it's a rock star of a team and it absolutely is But she has found she's like sometimes they're too much like me because I put them together You know, she's like, oh, yeah, they they don't want to deal with the same bs that I don't want to deal with And now we don't have anyone to deal with that bs because there you go Yeah, yeah, it's like you're you're having a great time at lunch But yeah, oh and making great products and you know killing it But then it's like everybody's like, oh, yeah, I don't want to sit in that meeting. You're like, ah crap Yeah, very true. The um the economist had a piece on one of its podcasts recently about FOMO and Jomo That I know what FOMO is, but I don't know what Jomo is. Jomo is the joy of missing out Oh, I've got that and those are the people who don't like meetings are Jomo like, yeah I don't want to hear anything. I would like to miss out. Please. Thank you Leave me out of the meeting and the economist was saying you need both types You need some FOMO people and some Jomo people to keep things going. I think that's probably a good way to put it. Yeah Yeah, I think one of the big mistakes that I I noticed when people hire is they want The instinctively hire people not just like them, but like people they'd like to hang out with And what I find over time is like generally those don't make the best Employment or that's not enough to make a decision. Yes They might be okay, but they also have to have other things, right? Like that you need like I don't want to I'll speak in very vague terms But that was a job where someone hired someone based on like their likes and the way they wrote their their cover letters like really Yeah, I There need this this job requires an x kind of aptitude for it, right? You need to have a technical need to be technical But you also have to be like enjoying it because you don't enjoy it You're not gonna they're not gonna be here for very long. No, that's right Like that person lasted less than a year because didn't like the job I I've also and yes, we'll we'll keep it real vague I I have hired people in the past that Seemed perfect for the job But you don't know enough about that day-to-day personality. That's going to be a factor In some roles that would matter more than others But but at times where I kind of go like well, I wish I wish I would have known This was kind of gonna be a thing that I have to deal with that science, right? It is. Yeah I tried to vet as well as possible, but You know gotta hire someone. Well, what is it exact science is time? Hmm Actually, it's not to flat circle. Right. And well, and it's also relative, but uh, it is For the video people sadly, but the audio people stick around because time is relative. There's lots more for that