 Hello. Welcome to the Jenkins Advocacy and Outreach SIG meeting. Today is November 19th. We have several people on the call. Yes, it happens in parallel with KubeCon, so many contributors are there and we will try to make it quick. Okay, if you're at KubeCon, please visit the Continuously Related Foundation booth. You can find a lot of contributors there and we will be happy to discuss Jenkins, and other ICD-related matters at the booths. Okay, other news. So we have officially started the JSOC 2021 phase. JSOC is announced, it's confirmed. There will be some changes to this project, which we discussed yesterday at the office hours, but ultimately, if anyone is interested to join us, or could be a mentor or student, please contact us. You can find the information on the project's JSOC page as usual. Okay, sorry. Something is wrong. So you can find all the information here. And yes, I just wanted to be able to discuss how we actually organize it this year. Okay, so we have a few topics on the agenda. The first item is from Alisa about a comment strip post. Alisa, would you like to talk about it? Yeah, so we have been given three options from comment strip, and these are just ideas on what we want, what we would prefer for them to create a comic about. And all of these are based on the work from home idea, which I think I had shared this last time, that we all felt that it was a good idea. So I'm not going to go over each of the ideas, but I think, let me see. Well, idea number one was not recommended because it's deploying from your bed. Another case by sofa. Yeah, so deploying from home sounds like a good idea that you're able to, of course, this is remote work. So the ability to deploy Jenkins from home automate everything. So well, take a look and then if you can just add input to within the document and let us know which ideas sounds the most interesting and we'll go off of that based on everybody's input from there, within the document. That's good. I'll try to take a look maybe on the weekend. Yeah, that's fine. Thank you, Oleg. So anything else regarding comment strip? I think I'm good. Thank you. And yeah, for GSOC 2021, what I wanted to discuss is actually what would be the plan this year, because last year we had two organizations participating, Jenkins and the CDF. Yeah, I think this is a good call. Oleg, I think we should probably be a unified front, if possible. And then I can help coordinate a meeting from all of the community folks, and then we can discuss next steps on applying or who wants to be the admin like Tara and you were last year. Because I think like from the screwdriver side, it'll probably be the Verizon and Yahoo folks who will probably help out. But yeah, it'd be good for all of us to just apply as the CDF and then have each of the projects represented. I think that was a missed opportunity last time. Last one for the going in all together as part of the CDF. I think that's quite nice. And I think that also like helps with like the payment stuff as well. Like I think because we end up paying something right to sponsor the projects. So I think that also makes the accounting on our side a lot easier. Yeah, think about it and let us know. Yeah, so in my case, I need to think about it a bit more. Firstly, it really depends on how many projects we target. Because last year, we had six projects for Jenkins, one for Jenkins X. And if it was in the CDF, it could be perceived as imbalanced. Because Jenkins project is considerably bigger than others. And it has a history of JSOC. Yeah. We will need to think about how we organize it, maybe how we distribute the slots. Oh, is that we get a limited amount of project slots? Yeah. Oh, got it. Okay. Oh, okay. That's actually a good point. I didn't realize that. Yes. Well, it's rather a technical problem because usually Google is quite generous when it comes to project slots. And so far, except one year, we were able to get all slots we asked for. Okay. So yeah, maybe is that something that we could have a follow up discussion with the ESOC coordinators as well? Because if Jenkins ends up having more proposals, like I know screwdriver might not necessarily, I think last time they had maybe like two people participate. So that's also, they could just be more flexible with us because we do have, we're going to have probably by then six incubating projects, or five incubating in one graduated project. So yeah, let's just ask the question and they might be flexible with us. And if they say no, and then depending on how many each of the projects end up having, then we can consider just Jenkins applying on its own. Yeah. It's really an open question right now. We need to see who would be open to be an ORC admin because Martin has stepped down because, well, he actually wanted to step down last year, but he helped us get through the year when we had some turbulence in the resource bank. I'm not sure what are Marcus plans for the next year. Yeah. Basically it would leave us with current me handling organization side, unless somebody else steps up. So we will need to decide by mid January. By mid January. Okay. So should we coordinate a meeting then by like early December to understand which of the projects a want to participate and then, and then we'll then, but on that we can decide like org admins and then we can also set a deadline of like how many, you know, if you're going to submit a project, submit it now so that we can go and have that conversation with Google. I'm quite happy to throw my hat in the ring as an org admin for Jenkins. I don't know whether or not Jenkins X, we had one student last year and that went really well. It was a great work that he did, but I don't know if Jenkins X will participate next year. I'll ask and we'll see, but I'm happy to help out with the admin in regard to this. Thank you. Yeah. And that's the thing. I don't know if Spinnaker is going to participate in, I don't know if screwdriver is going to and then if Tecton is either because they're a little bit less organized, I think on the community front for that stuff sometimes. So that's why I'm also like, well, let's just see who wants to participate and then we can have that conversation with Google. We can go ask them. Yeah, right. Yeah, we can leverage Tara as well. In that conversation, she might be able to help us pull some strings. Yeah. Let's discuss it in the next weeks. So again, no immediate decision needed, but you're having a single organization could help cancel the things. Okay. So yeah, if we can put it on the agenda for December 3rd and then all forward, I'm going to add a few people to that meeting then, Oleg. So like I'll invite the Verizon wireless folks and Yahoo folks and the and the Armory folks and see if they want to participate. Again, I edited the agenda. Okay. Any other topics to discuss today? Should we close earlier and go to KubeCon? Oh, like I have one mainly for Jackie since I have her here. But Jackie, is Jesse Kassman still with CDF? Yes, he is. He has a new email address. So I'll send that to you after we get off this call. Okay, perfect. Yeah, so sorry about that. No worries. Yeah, Oracle is kind of like, oh, what are we going to do? What do you guys want to do? So all right, no, we're good. Thank you. Thanks, Oleg. Yeah, thanks, Oleg. So we'll see you at the CDF bullseye, guys. Okay. See you later. Bye. Bye. Bye.