 Welcome everyone. Here we have the second panel of Tech and Innovation Summit. I welcome you all here. And so the topic is sustainable consumption and I'd like to introduce you to the panelists. So the first person we have on the panel is Mr. Krishna Kumar. He's the founder and CEO of Crop Technology Solutions. Second, we have Somasa Darshan. He's the Vice President of Process and Product Express Peace. And then we have Mr. Rakesh Chain. He's the CEO of Rajdeep Traders. Over to you, Punita Maan. Thank you. Thank you, Ashmitah, for the kind introduction. And thank you gentlemen for taking out time and joining us today for the Future of Society panel. So when we talk about the Future of Society, there are three pillars which stand strong. One is mobility, the other is agriculture and the third is logistics. And today I'm glad that we'd be able to see all three of them being impacted by tech and being changed how they function. And today to discuss these important pillars of society, I have with me the speakers from these three diverse industries representing their viewpoint. So welcome Krishna. Welcome Rakesh and welcome Mr. Somasa Darshan. Thank you, Punita. So before we get into the discussion mode, I would just like to give a minute to each one of you to please introduce yourself in terms of how you are bringing change in these segments of Future of Society. Krishna, would you like to start? You're on mute. Please unmute yourself. Hi, this is Krishna. I'm founder of Cropin and Cropin is a deep tech company in agriculture and we are solving some of the complex challenges which industry is facing through data. Anyhow, and some of the challenges which we are solving is, you know, we're trying to look at every farm as an asset and we're trying to maximize the revenue, remind the cost and manage the risk better for our partners and growers. And, you know, if you look at what they're looking for, for any technology integration in the sector is to improve their predictability, productivity, sustainability of the whole business. One of the large programs we run on climate resilient agriculture as you know, a growing degree has the potential to bring down the productivity by 30% of major crops, simple crops of the globe, while we want to, we want to double the food production, we work on carbon neutral farming, various programs in livelihood, including the livelihood of the farmers. Over a period of time, we have shipped this product which was built in India to 52 countries, we manage around 388 different crops and 10,000 different varieties of those crops. And around 60 million acres in 52 countries, which is almost equivalent to $22 billion worth of productions. We make it sustainable through our platform, we work with various partners, ranging from banking insurance, CPG companies, food retailers, chemical and input farming and largely we also partner with Bournemouth and the development agencies to work on the program and food security missions which they have and we run our AI at the scale of a country so we process the whole country and we tell them much beyond before the harvest what is going on every pixel inside the country. We are 200 people organization, we have a subsidiary in Europe as well, we have beaten around in Southeast Asia, Africa, Latin, and that's how we are in 52 countries and servicing farmers globally. So this is pretty much what we do at Cropel. So, thanks. Thank you Krishna. Mr. Jain. Yes, so this is Rakesh Jain from Chennai from representing the RASG PDERS and we are into traditional business we have established since 1976 in auto sector specialized for two less spare parts. And then since that trend and time has been changed. We have diversified into commercial segment. And since the technology has been driven with fuel saving carbon emission, and the most of the concern was in this pandemic was corrosion. We planned ourselves to introduce in the middle of the road and the services could not be provided. So, on the technology we talk about is the corrosion part, which can save a lot of money for the coming end users and also for the manufacturing units and the way the fossil fuels are replaced by hybrid vehicles, electrical vehicles. So that is the more idea to go into it and you know we can be a part of the growth in economic GDP also. So that is our main vision. And we will look forward to we are currently having six team of six members and the product which we are going to launch here is going to be a patented by the scientists for next 15 years. So that was the technology we're working on. Thank you so much. Thanks. So much to Darshan. Hi, this is so much version from express bees. I lead the process and the product chart express bees. You know logistics as a sector is a pectored $202 billion and is growing at the rate of 11 to 12% CGR right. If you look at the, the requirements of the customer. They look at convenience at speed at a very reasonable cost and technology plays a very critical role in that. Technology beat from funneling of the orders to processing of the orders within the warehouses are having the customer informed on the information about the shipments. That's where the technology plays a very critical role. We are a tech enable logistics company. And that's where express bees fits into the entire scheme of things in getting the shipments delivered across to their customers. Sure. Thanks. Thank you for giving us a sneak peek into how you're making a difference in different segments. Yep. So Krishna, I would like to jumpstart the discussion by coming to you. For cropping we have seen how you started the company with a very many fuel investment of $10,000 and now you're giving almost 70 extra turns to our employees and investors. And we've seen actually take as a category which was completely unknown 10 years back. So would you like to tell us I mean how those reforms and transformations have taken place in Agri Tech. If you look at we started back in 2010 and I used to work with G and the whole motivation comes from there because we are very proud of our six sigma and lean six which we're running. I mean, G is known for that. And our job was to make every process and every code we are, you know, writing. We must have a lean six sigma approach or six sigma approach for our factories which are producing something right when I correlated to agriculture every farm asset is a factory that we are trying to produce and there were a lot can be done to improve the efficiency. And that really motivated me because at the same time I was learning about, you know, farmers throwing their crops because if somebody is not paying them 30 paisa per kg for a tomato, which we never bought in Hyderabad or Bangalore less than 20 rupees. And so there was some something something was missing the productivity and the if you compare with the West are very very low. And then the soil degradation is happening we need to double the food production. And there are so many challenges so we thought this is a very, very large issue, which we are going to face in coming days and nobody is really talking about how to solve it. I mean, the government is trying to do but you know, there has been their own limitations, and we don't see a marriage of technology with something as basic as agriculture, we think agriculture is very simple. But agriculture is a science, a very, very deep sign you put one grain and it gives you, you know, you know, 50 or 20 grains in a span of three, three months. So let's, let's look at the designs. Let's pick up some of the problem statement and try to solve it. I didn't know what startup is that kind of time because we didn't have that ecosystem I didn't know much about the funding ecosystem. I just let the job to say let's see what we can do. I mean, people need the job to do MBA. We can do this and be a real time and we'll figure it out on the way. So I was the only person my co-founder didn't leave the job. I left the job and he was doing his MBA said okay I'll come back after sometime but you try to figure out what you want to do and I started interfacing with many of the industry leaders to understand what exactly they are facing. And it becomes very evident that they are looking for predictability in the business because agriculture is very unpredictable. So they have to do that they need to be closer to the farm which is not possible because their managers and the VPs are sitting in Delhi and major cities and the work is happening at the remote. Now we don't have a 2G we don't have a internet that that one time in 2010, and nobody had heard about data driven farming I think we coined the term data driven farming even it was not started in the US and Europe. I think in India sitting here we envision that we should bring data to this, this whole ecosystem and that will improve the whole of comments of this industry and that's what we, you know, we decided to do that time in the US is started in 2013. So we take pride in that sitting in India we something envision at that scale. And, and to us, surprise me too early. I mean, we went a little early in the game because infrastructure was not there. The 2G was hardly found in the villages. Smartphones were not there and we are talking about launching an apps when people have not seen apps that that kind of time like Facebook and LinkedIn was very less visible in the rural community or even the cities as well, if I may say, and, and I remember when I launched the first app and I think one of my customers were PepsiCo that time. And we have to buy the hardware, the phone smartphone because it has to be given to the farm managers, and because they didn't carry phones, or they had a very, very basic phone. And those were the smart phones they didn't want to touch the screen because they felt it will break because they have never seen that phone and the literacy rate was also not very good when you talk about, you know, those farm extension offices in the villages. And some of the major question people ask, you know, these are all great things, but my people adopted because you know what kind of people you're going to interact. They have never seen softwares, you know, softwares piece IBM and Microsoft and Google's of the world. But are you, you are saying that you will take this whole application like, you know, let's say really version of SAP, which is going to manage an asset at the farm. Do you think my people will be able to use it and my managers are not gone beyond the exits. Right. So, how is all this is going to add up and I think it really worked and people are very intuitive adoption happened. But the major shift came in 2013 and 14 weeks as I said, we're too early we were picked up here for large companies to implement the solution because this is a change management industry, we didn't want to fail with the smaller companies. And this happened so we do very, very slowly. But then we understand the challenges what exactly they want to solve from the lower point of view from the sustainability point of view from the business point of view. And that gave us the opportunity to build something in India. And we coordinated to the international market. And we said the problem remains the same with the asset is one acre or 1000 hectare. The problem remains the same. There's a pest that is a loss that is a number of issues can be transposed it and that worked and that resonated internationally as well and very quickly we grew to 52 countries. I think I think as a term came in 2014 or 15 if I correctly was not a category, but we are very, very persistent was no capital. I reached out to more than 100 investors to raise capital when I was raising my seed. It didn't happen. I had to raise capital initially with my friends on a good note, $10,000 and I said, okay, this is your help, but I'll take it as an investment I'll give you a shares in the company. Once I get formally give the shares and I give them the shares. And today, to my satisfaction, I was able to give them a return of 70x, you know, in our city C round, where the secondary happened and some of the investors or the investor also maximized their money here. And it's not about maximizing it. It's also about, you know, the building the trust with the industry and what you are doing. And, and what do you promise to your people right so come on join cropping and we are going to be a successful company, and you are putting a share here. And if you're able to give that return back, you feel satisfied I think I don't know how much return I'm able to provide coming this but this is, this is a moment I'm chasing that at least there's a moment where I promise something and I able to deliver. And to my mind, I think they have put a lot of effort, building this company over a period of time. And yeah, so this was very very satisfactory. But yeah, just we have its own challenges we patiently waited for a lot of data where we can really demonstrate the capability of data and the AI because the industry never had the data. Today we have sitting on a world largest ag knowledge graph from 52 countries which is helping us to build AI model with context. I'll give you one beautiful example recently in Africa. One client said we want to map Nigeria. Can you tell me which plot is growing wheat. We want to track that for the government, because there's a food security issue they want to understand how much important export can happen this is that. We map 60% of Nigeria, that was the land we have to map, and we process it and one of the reason for board know where there was the, I mean, historically that was a map largest people using this stick or a state if you may. Generally we saw the drop was more than 50%. And we said our models are not working maybe there is something wrong with that, but then when we did be, we got to know that all the farmer have fled from that region because of the insurgency of Boko Haram and on. And that's why you see this drop and the client validated that and, and imagine what what are the possibilities if government start using this country level data before the harvest you have all the parameters to take decision either on the subsidy or pricing or export import or the companies who are planning to source or the bank who are trying to underwrite the rest right. So it's a very, very powerful information we are still building it I'm not saying that models are 100% accurate and can't be, but we have fairly, you know, recently. We are going to release the whole India, and this is a massive scale processing we are doing we are talking about processing 0.2.3 million square kilometer from area through the AI and at the pixel of 10 by 10 meter and then augmenting what is going to have what is happening right now what is going to happen in the past that pixel. And nobody has done that at this scale. I think India is creating a great product and we have a great talent to do that. And that only happened because we have this, you know, 388 crops 10,000 varieties from different countries which is helping us to build this ag knowledge graph and this model with context and I'm very confident that you know, a lot of other people are also going to join this journey in Arctic and very bright future for agriculture. Great. Quite interesting to hear lots of examples you shared. Thank you. Thanks, Krishna. So with this I would like to come to you Mr. Jen, since you represent an interesting industry mobility. So, how do you see tech playing a major role in driving the auto industry for the next level of growth. The future of mobility is fueled by three key technology driven identification of vehicles and connected and automate automobiles of vehicles and the mobility service. Now if we take the opportunities in India, we could be a leader in sharing the mobility by 2030 focusing the shift to electrical vehicles to reduce the carbon emission which is one of the the corrosion part also so we are converting all those things into hybrid technology is being upgraded and we talk about the sensors, how these sensors module has introduced where you know if your car is moving, would you like to share more insights into the future of logistics, how technology is impacting the sector to grow further. Yeah, sure. The logistics sector has been transforming itself. You know, last couple of decades we've seen that and the companies that embrace technology are the ones who will be successful in the days to come for two reasons, a growth, be to staying relevant in the industry. And that being said, technology is looked at as one of the integral part of today's logistics business, because customers expect the visibility on the shipments that they ship through us, or any logistics provider for that matter. There is increased focus on efficacy and cost. So investments in automation and robotics to process and increase the efficiency and also to reduce the human intervention. So we talk about technologies like autonomous vehicles. And also greener vehicles like the electrical fleets. These are the technologies that some of the logistics companies today are embracing, which will augment their initiatives in bringing in efficiency, reducing cost. In addition to this big data plays a very important role. You know, as a logistics company, you've got to crunch a lot of data to understand the nuances of a certain business aspects and big data analysis something that was very, very critical in today's logistics sector. In addition to this, we also see security is a very, very key thing. And with the blockchain technology coming in, I think a lot of logistics companies are embracing it. You know, leaders like us in express bees, you know, we have all these technologies that support the need of the art, and to be efficient, and then bring in the speed, and also bring in the convenience to the customers in the today's competitive landscape. So would you also like to spare a minute to tell us about how AI blockchain and other technologies are being used in the logistics module. Absolutely. So AI and predictive analytics we basically use for, you know, understanding the demand fluctuations. The one of the key concerns and the logistics are today is basically the variability in demand. And it is very, very important for, you know, company like us to understand the fluctuations in the demand so that we are better prepared to, you know, understand and cater the customer requirements. And you know post COVID situations we've seen that there has been an upswing in the volumes. And if you're not prepared for such kind of fluctuations obviously you would not be able to give that experience of customers are demanding in today's competitive landscape. So thanks, I'll come back to you again. Miss Ren, I think you're back and you can hear him. Yes. Sure. So you were telling us about the hybrid model in mobility. Yeah, the basically when the green revolution technology we talk about the next generation mobility, how this urban mobility can be useful for the next generation. There is going to be introduced in auto sector, which is called as advanced technology, advanced technology is basically the advanced driver assistance technology system, which will help a driver to avoid the pollution before the event happened. And that's one of the biggest technologies going to introduce in the coming years and you can see. And also the as Mr. Somsen said, the AI intelligence has been introduced there. Cloud computing will play a big role in the vehicles, because that will save the data and you know, give the proper way to the auto sector to you know communicate vehicle to vehicle. That will help us the machine learning and the predictive technology have a high significant impact on the vehicles in the autonomous industries that the sensors are also one of the playing the biggest role in the automobile industry. And if you could see the next segment will when when the solar panels have been introduced one of the company is there in Delhi, they are working on that also with an aerodrome system, where a four wheel car will be running also with the fuel as well as the solar panels. So this is something technology where the cost cutting, because the major components of the auto sector are the pricing is too high because they want to reduce the cost cutting also. And that will help the people who are into the corporate level they can for logic systems and logic systems have been driven technology. That will help them also to save a lot of money on and on the maintenance cost, as well as on the vehicles, the new scapegoat policy introduced by the government that will how they can prevent that also by maintenance the vehicles also. And basically the improving emissions, the emission is a major factor global worldwide. So these kinds of module of what we got of the final quote, which is working on the sensors. And even if the vehicle is under water, it will prevent the portion we call as EICC technology, electromagnetic induction technology, which will help the vehicles to prevent the corrosion on the galvanized metal sheets, because any vehicle which is manufactured without galvanized metal sheets, none of the vehicle is manufactured. So how end user or even the owner of the vehicle, how he can save a lot of money on maintenance for the next five years, 10 years on maintaining without spending so much of money. So that being a big part of the auto sector is going to happen. So before we move on with the audience questions. One feedback I want to know from each one of you is when the pandemic happened, I mean, how prepared was each one of you in terms of having the kind of digitization we all move to and the tech in any way helped each one of you. You like to begin. Yeah, so I think to be very honest, we didn't know which side is going to swing. Everybody was skeptical and one other thing we started working on to conserve cash because we don't know. We don't know how long it has to be and what is the impact going to be on industry. But one thing which came out very clearly during pandemic that a lot of business can happen sitting at your office we don't have to really fly to us or the markets where you're operating. The second, second thing we can very imperative was food and agriculture, because that was the savior, right so everybody needed food. And third, how do you monitor those food remotely, because if the movement of people are not going to happen at that speed which was happening. Then you need a monitoring capability, whether through, you know, combination of satellite images AI models and still give enough so that people can have a pulse of the whole supply chain what is happening at that level. So we saw some uptake, uptake, we saw some saving cut down on the, you know, greenhouse gases because you're traveling less less burden on your pack. But I think these are some of the positive which came up, but of course pandemic has had his own, you know, the great side of the impact on people, which is, which is still we are seeing right first wave survey. And we are, I think we all have learned now to deal with this, but I think I don't know how long we can work so remotely, we have to be back in office. People thought that we can also cut down on offices but I think people need to meet to know it, and people are getting that and that we can't take away from, you know, our community. So, yeah, so those are some of the learnings we have learned how to work remotely but at the same time, I don't think we can keep doing this for a very, very long time. Business has an uptake and a good way. But yeah, I'll leave it there. Mr. Jan. Yes. Being into traditional system of business, so we into a distribution line, so that affects more into the being a playing biggest role in from the connecting from the manufacturers to the end users. And this pandemic has really changed the way. When we started, we didn't had an idea of how we're going to have a Zoom meeting that was never been thought about. But this has really paved a different way of, you know, working style, especially we are going to filter how the next five years we're going to work on it. Second, on the monetary terms, the cost cutting how we can do it. How can we pass on the benefits what we saved it to the end user and how we can support them to know back on the track. That's the main concern. And we almost with 300, 400 dealers network here in South India. We could balance these things and since the trend is changing in two wheeler auto segment with electrical vehicles are going to come and hybrid vehicles are going to come. So we have pre-planned two years before that we have to diversify ourselves into a different category and introducing a different product, which will help with the end user. And especially this pandemic, even if I see my vehicle sitting at home, you know, on the shed, can't go for the service. So that really driven me to, you know, do something innovative. And as you said, the sustainability should be there for the long years to be there and the mobility of reaching to the end users were most important. And since South has been a biggest happening of corrosion. So it would sense the next future, the climate change is happening all over the globe and how we can prevent that how we can save that with the carbon emission also. So that led us to start moving on the new track. Maybe if you told me, if you told us this pandemic you are taking something in hand, which may burn your fingers. I said, unless you try something new, you will never get an experience, whether you will learn it or you will experience it. So we said, okay, go through it and you know, this has even a certain in edge to get into it and being in entrepreneur. Now we had been recognized in India's best 5000 ms in the last 2020. When people will say pandemic, we want to forward the pandemic, we would see that the pandemic has given a different edge as an entrepreneur to this game. Good to hear on how traditional industry has adopted to it. So so much introduction coming to you to share your point. Yeah, plenty of learnings for us there. When the two waves of pandemic hit us. We weren't prepared they were these micro containment zones, which were not allowing us to get the shipments delivered and there is there's a huge noise from the customer side because they are not they've placed orders on portal and they're not getting the shipments. And the movement of people and the material was crippled so we all know that. But, you know, from those learnings what what we've done is we've kind of positioned ourselves in a better place should anything like that happen in future that's what you know we don't want that to happen. You know, we would basically position our initiatives and three friends right one is people safety of people. It may be our internal employees are it could also be the customer so we are getting our people vaccinated and you know, there's a great focus from the perspective to keep the fleet ready for any contingency that might come. The second is trying to build a very, you know, be tech ready, because we've also known that how a different contain the entire layout of the containment zones change. And, you know, sometimes only the essential goods are allowed some times you the non essential goods are not allowed but it is very very important for us to understand the differentiation of essential and non essential goods within your company because that you allow the essential goods to move and these are real time decisions that you take and if you do not have a tech that is that fungible and versatile to accommodate these kinds of operational decisions is going to be a challenge. So that's a learning for us which we've made ourself ready with and the third part is building the flex in the supply chain. In those COVID scenarios we've seen the upswing and the volumes, you know, we were totally caught in our last time and when the, you know, we were getting out of the COVID situation. Now we wouldn't want to get ourselves caught in the similar situation again so this has been a tremendous focus in building the flex in the supply chain so that we are better poised. I did mention that we are investing heavily in the predictive analytics and the air part so that we clearly understand the demand part of it to help us serve the customers better. So that's how these are the learnings that we've used for betterment of services to our customers. Interesting. So with this, I would like to open the floor for audience questions we have lots of them coming up. First one is for you, Krishna. A user is saying congratulations Krishna for building an awesome business. Can you enlighten us on how did you convince the first equity investor to believe that AgriTech is a good investment and investing in your venture. Any further suggestions to another fellow entrepreneur to enter a new deep tech area? So I remember, you know, my first seed investor interaction started immediately when I started the company. So in September 2011, I got my seed capital and that time seed capital was $40,000. It was not like it to be his million dollars, right? So you get a million or $2 million or $3 million. And I met these two entrepreneurs. One was Pallabh. He used to run a company called Fusionchart, completely bootstrapped. Pallabhadani. Pallabhadani, right. So he looked at the business model and he said, you know, I don't know agriculture, but I know there is, there's so much need to be done for the country and the globally in the agriculture sector. And I want to see what magic you guys can create. And here is my, you know, without looking at much into the, you know, business model or traction, he said, okay, here is, you know, $40,000. Show me what you guys can do. So I think it's also about the conviction you have to solve a problem right and basically people take a bet on people. Yes, are there. They want to see whether you're able to execute how passionate about you are about to solving this problem right and I think that's that's the judgment point for people who take the, you know, who really lies the first risk capital. And you need to be in that June. I think he couple of times mentioned that, you know, I invested in you guys, I didn't invest it in the idea because I don't know how agriculture operated what are the risks. But I saw that passion that, you know, first upon, we don't see people from this side of the world jumping into agriculture. So you'll always see agriculture people solving the agriculture problem but yeah, and people from tech are jumping into agriculture that was the first time that something good is going to happen. And I wanted to be part of it right so yeah so that's how it happened. And I think the question of perseverance is something you should always have go after the large problem statement and real problem, which can scale. I think investor looks, looks for that kind of a problem statement, you know, they want to invest in the next unicorn, and that can only happen if the problem statement is large. And then have a right set of people who are going to work on this problem to solve it. I think these are few ingredients they would like to see when they're looking at writing the thing. At my time when I was, when I was trying to raise, agriculture is not even a sector where people are thinking to invest right so maybe some tech companies or e-commerce and all those sectors where people were trying to put the money into agriculture was never heard, politically motivated, nobody wants to put the capital very very difficult to raise that capital. And we found somebody who can, who can write that check and you have to, you know, this is one of the problems taken for any entrepreneur you have to find your way out right find those guys who can you know friend family or whoever, who can write that initial check and, and that shows your passion right you are working hard towards even getting that capital to start, start your show. So I think that that's very, very important patient, you know, you need to patiently wait for it, you can't start a problem and after two years you have to just nothing is happening or I'm not able to raise capital. And you leave that field right I could have done that, because I didn't, I was not able to raise such capital in first two years. But I was never demotivated because the problem was real right so I was seeing the impact on the ground I had the backing of very, very large enterprise was looking for these kind of solutions. And that kept us, you know, motivated and I think we did pretty well, you know, working in this industry. And so, you have to come for a long haul it's not a one or two year journey you'll always have a sine curve, and you have to deal with that. And I think, I think culture is, is a vast space, a lot of opportunity, a lot of capital flowing in right now and this is a right time for anybody to get into it with finding their mission where they want to operate and this ecosystem is has become very, very last not only in India but you will see it now at the Google platform. And I think, you know, if you are thinking about getting into our tech I think this is a right time. So, so with this we'll move to one last question as we are already short of time. So, Rakesh this question is for you, our user is asking what do you predict for the future of fuel mobility. The fuel mobility is there but now the vehicles are being used converts a conversion is more quicker in hybrid vehicles. So we can see by 2025-26, you can see most of the vehicles will be on load with hybrid vehicles. The concern was of the charging status stations, and that is going to be the environment when people want to go with the electrical vehicles. The first question they ask is whether the infrastructure is built up and the government is taken in auto sector a very big initiative to build up the very big infrastructure when the making India program is going on. In that case, you know, the mobility is going to be in vast and maybe from this tire once it is going to be big startup with the tire once it is going on. It will by 2023, you can see in Kapal just one and a half year, you can see a vehicle moving to tire two, tire three cities also. So, and this is the right time where you know if you want to go for the electrical vehicles, you want to go with the charging facility. It's a right time to go for the investment on such infrastructure, which will give you a long term benefit. For example, we can say for next five years, because we always think for 20 years instead of giving for a big, big dreams. We should focus on the next five years, how we can reach with the proper roadmap, what is the government policies are going on and how the government is changing. What is the government support is going on and what is the tax benefit policies. This has to be monitored closely to arrive at this and what I have been connected with so many entrepreneurs with this manufacturing companies. It's going to be a big boom because the fuel fossil is being damaging a lot of the roads and most of the logistics also I can take into account. They have been paying huge money for the cost on the maintenance costs also. So this is also reduced in maintenance costs, long driven strategies will be built and you can definitely invest in this auto sector. And actually this is the right time where everything is going down and nothing is being imported. Now everything is set up in India. So now the government is giving a much pitch to the auto sector, which is paying the biggest role in the GDP also. So this is the right time to penetrate your money in this segment and you can get into it. Thank you, Ms. Chen.