 Somebody who's been to the FDR Memorial described that one. Okay. What does it look like? I mean, what is how big is it? Okay, larger than life Okay, so it's how much I mean it covers us a fairly large spread of ground it covers different face of his life the centerpiece is Yeah, exactly it's him and his wheelchair. I think he's got his dog Fala, which is always a crossword puzzle answer FALA that comes up Why is this here if we have a perfectly good memorial over by the tidal basin? Yeah, this was first I mean, that's a good question, but like this one is actually first And this was the one that FDR suggested during his lifetime He had been elected president four times it was it seems more likely than not that he might someday Get a memorial and when asked what would be an appropriate way to commemorate his life as a public servant he I believe he was in the Oval Office and he said a block of marble the size of this desktop With my name and my birth date and placed at the National Archives But that which is I think very understated You know he picked the location you pick the design and that's exactly what you've got the FDR Memorial at The tidal basin is totally different And in so much as he told us exactly what he wanted kind of flies in the face of his his wishes and his explicit instructions And there's a further twist there And if you remember back to the second week when Mike O'Malley came in and talked about political theater The centerpiece of the the memorial at the tidal basin is FDR in his wheelchair For a president who went to such enormous lengths over the course of his entire political career to never be photographed in his wheelchair and Remember professor O'Malley talking about you know how he would set up rails You know so that he could appear to walk to the podium That he could carry himself to the podium He had a car outfitted with hand controls And this is not just someone who didn't make a big deal about the fact that he was in a wheelchair This is someone who went to great lengths to disguise that fact And that's a great point to talk about you know who is this memorial for is it for Is it for the person is it for the the generation for whom He was such a central figure there's a whole generation of Americans where you know He guided them through the depression in the second world war is the moral for them Is the memorial for us for contemporary generations who are trying to place him in historical context And those are really useful questions, and they're they're transportable. You can ask those questions about any monument at any place Why do we do that This is this I think was probably done fairly close after his death. I would imagine it's designed Is that the right thing to do I mean to go and sort of when somebody says this is how I want to be commemorated You say yeah, all right, we're gonna do something different That could be a glib but accurate answer I mean we're talking about at this point, you know, I had the reality check that I am now pulling in a totally different generation My students this year. They're great grandparents. They're great grandparents thought in World War two My grandparents You've got so many people who are so far removed at this point that This isn't going to teach them who Franklin Roosevelt was Is that what a memorial is supposed to do? That's I think what the goal of the other memorial is I mean this is where you get into the sort of interesting undefined territory of what do we want to use this space for?