 Jay leave Okay, yeah, go away. Okay. I left. That's not that's fake leaving doesn't count. Hello. Welcome to Kenobi episode one It's really exciting because Yeah, this is the one that we've all been saying for months on and this is gonna be the master work All the other ones were kind of just Yeah, yeah, it's all been leading to this but they were They just fell short in certain ways Oh Always get back up, but this one is gonna be the one that's perfect. I think that's that's my expectation I've already heard several great things everyone the internet is loving it buzzing about it It's not a reality at all that I have seen everybody being hypercritical of it already and that it seems that not even the prequels Can save Star Wars now. This is this show is kind of a signaling of We we are we are now in the era. No, you say that all the time. We've been in it for two years This is the result of it, but it feels like this one We're really edging closer to like the prequels, which we remember it for so long Mandalorian episode one It leverages this the prequels quite a bit. This is just like oh, yeah And then they had a Naboo star fighter. They had the other flashback of order 66. Yeah This is the almost endpoint. I don't see how you could make more use of the prequels than what they're gonna be doing Especially with cuz I was making sure the file worked and the one we had how it fucking begins Let's I don't know if any of you know, but we're gonna get there I personally I'm looking forward to seeing you and McGregor be Obi-Wan Kenobi cuz I like him and I think he's a good actor Good job. Is there anything else anyone's looking forward to other than that specific thing? I don't know maybe I can't wait to be on Tatooine again. I'm very excited to be on Tatooine again I mean if more collectors are in it, I'm excited to see them as well. I guess at this point I would just say that I'm kind of look I'm okay with just seeing cool imagery and appreciating the imagery for its own sake and the puppets and and the props and stuff That's where I'm at It will be cool to see some new planets and maybe some new aliens like and appreciate the work that was put in from like All other people who are not to blame if the writing Like this looks really cool and like a Star Wars prequel tribute to Obi-Wan this footage It'll do great and that I like I'm already kind of writing it off Like I'm not even really expecting anything but this show hypothetically could be awesome like in terms You know we an era that's pretty underexplored in Star Wars canon You know like the the sort of Empire period before the OT and imagine if you did the really low stakes Small like a low stakes kind of slow-paced Contemplative Obi-Wan story where he has to deal with doubts that are arising about like the Jedi order the Jedi code Like his mission and how he should best oversee it and then we present him with difficult choices Where it's essentially are you going to do what you know? You need to do which is ensure that Luke survives and that the Jedi can maybe come back one day in the future And by doing that you may have to breach the Jedi code to essentially allow the Jedi to survive or like are you going to rigidly? Stick to principles that you believe to be right even if it jeopardizes your mission You know give him some like if Obi-Wan in this show a mess is up and has Luke Skywalker die Then that means George Lucas never makes Star Wars a new hope because Luke dies before that film Therefore Star Wars never existed So it creates a time It supersedes all other cannon. This is the cannon That's what the finale is they reveal like we're doing a new timeline everybody Honestly, I could see a timeline where Disney made a show where like Luke dies And Obi-Wan replaces him with another child and doesn't tell anyone. Oh, yeah in this child. She'll be the best Oh, no, I think I think like they'll just make what almost in like the the original original Original series Luke wasn't really Luke. He was a different child The Obi-Wan let's look whenever we see him outside of the original trilogy anyway, you're like, this is Luke But not Luke. That's true. This is a puppet look at him dance Saying what will be the fate of you and McGregor's Obi-Wan and this will he be? Ruin'd much like many other characters or I think it's entirely possible Will it be neutral or will it be great for him? You know, we could get any kind of result I don't know exactly what's gonna happen We've had a couple of talks and predictions about the nature of the trailer combined with what we had assumed They might fuck around with the potential is enormous. You've got a little bit of restriction from You know the content that exists in terms of what we should see him ending up as Maybe I should say rather than what we should see him as Because theoretically this season should mold what is what remains after the prequels into what we see in the OC I assume that's what they're gonna be gunning for George was very much obsessed with trying to get everything one-to-one Like you see everything is like that nobody did anything for 19 years. You're like, all right Fishing the death star, but you know, you can explore it and I guess We're about to see whatever they decided to do is everyone ready Oh, hey, he said the thing I remember the thing Oh, yeah, oh look Coruscant Oh Wow, we're just like straight up Do they think that nobody knows this so this is the thing we may as well take this time to talk about it exactly I When the hell do we ever do this like this we don't even do this We're not we didn't do this for Boba Fett did we like hey previously in Boba Fett's life They didn't even show footage of Boba Fett from the OT, right? They they hopefully hopefully this means that they'll be keeping Obi-Wan in character You know because if they showed Boba Fett before Boba Fett that would have really Contrast it with a blood splash effect on Maul. I thought there always was Oh Yes, it's like all right. I guess they're just recapping Phantom Menace They're relying on us knowing exactly what this is Okay for this like work because everyone knows this no one doesn't know this is really hard to Sort of think about this as though you are someone who's never done anything Star Wars before and you're brand new How does this previously track for you? It's the music That's that's what's this one's doubly weird about this is this music. They're playing over all of this recap stuff His wise is master Yoda And it's powerful as master window It's just it feels out of place because it's not because it's not was he I want more And I know I shouldn't How do you know the ways of the force I? Understand why they did it right because this show is it's not like the show is hosted on a service where you can just see the prequels whenever you want The internet this is baffling because it's like wow with two minutes in and it's just been remember the prequels like literally as in Remember them because this will be important for later. It's like yeah, I know Like oh wait did I miss like the first season of the show? What is this going on? Three seasons or something Well imagine imagine revenge of the Sith started with like a compilation of phantom Yeah, it feels as weird as that because Why do this like this you do have season recaps on TV shows? But like yeah, it just feels odd shortly if there was anything important to establish in terms of character You would want it in the actual story rather than you can establish characterization for everyone That's like already been established in the prequels. It might be you know It might be important to go over what's the same and what's different in the actual story you need to see these I can't believe they don't put a little sheltery thing on top. Yeah, I mean, maybe he's like, oh, thank God rain Yeah, maybe Except on my back Maybe the rain on Coruscant is just a toxic Facts in Like man, they showed a lot of fucking footage from yeah prequels. Yeah, we're three minutes in this is why it feels like we're at the peak of Well usage. Oh my god, I hope Jar Jar shows up in this like how they didn't say that she died of sadness Why would they want to remind us of died of force AIDS? Oh, that looks so bad So they're gonna bring like quite gone back rent I don't know feel Liam Neeson would so I would have thought we'd heard about it But I know I think they'd be able to get him and they'd keep it secret. Yeah, no, it's not of course I can get him. I'm saying it wasn't announced a lot of the I figure it'd be a cameo or something Maybe well a lot of those get announced too, right like even I guess you want to keep some surprises, maybe Hey, what's the sand it's a tiny forest Fucking order 66 nice This oh, it's black widow training That is so awful the cameras just start The shaking is so deliberate like it's so fake The difference is that when you're running with it, you'll have an automatic shake But that was like I must shake the camera with my hand sort of thing Dude that might save a totally nearly went into the kid there. I think that having action music here was a bad decision Yeah, they didn't Great if it was just silent These guys are gonna escape and be in the show No, I want them to die. Well, well, I was actually Puff expecting them to show who saved baby Yoda there, but maybe we'll get that a different time It might be the inquisitors, right? Doesn't we had opening scene like in terms of really weird opening scene You spent four minutes on remember the prequels and then one minute on aren't clones shit Now order 66 and now we're ten years later. Oh, finally familiar ground. Yes It's my favorite well, we have seen a lot of tattooing but also haven't seen a lot of tattooing Yeah, I don't know if you guys remember the tattooing We had very well featured in a new hope and in return of the Jedi. It was yeah Pretty cool to be back here on the streets for no vehicles in the streets Everyone just wanders around the space for vehicles, but they have to go get the fuck out of the way Everyone with the Empire we'd be to be it guys you can tell by the soundtrack. This is a very Oh The two at the two leading it looks so silly She looks fine the other two just like The goofy hat like what's going on? Someone yelling from the back you have like space parts you prick you landed in the road. You landed on my dog Let's see Tatooine police get like a ticket to him say uh-uh Would people on Tatooine just like stop and stare at all this? Yeah, why stare? I don't really care. I think they just it's not a win. You know, it's the outer rim That's his cool lightsaber. Oh, it's lightsaber the spinning one Oh, no It's they don't have to use them as helicopters in this they're cowards the huts are in power So you gotta be careful with what you fuck around with as the Empire. I Imagine that they will take full these guys don't give a shit. We'll take full care with the world building. Yes. I agree. Yeah Hey, would you guys like some blue water you know who we are you know what we do You know what we do Wow, holy shit, do you know the key to hunting Jedi friend? It is patience Their compassion leaves a trail, but I thought the whole thing was to be disconnected I guess the compassion would be that they help people and so the stories of them helping people I just find it cringe that it's like they're self-aware villainous people who are like, ah, you have compassion hero The whole point of the the the empires are like, well, we're we've got orders so things are safer But like these guys are just overtly evil. Yeah, it's really lame It'd be a lot cooler if they diluted themselves into thinking that what they're doing is good, you know Even though they're tapping into the dark side and quizzes can use the force, right? Yeah, I believe so So what is the jedi to do? Help you Help you Help you this is really They're gonna kill him and then a jedi will maybe yeah the jedi hiding in this group of people probably I'm really not being salt. This guy is intimidating right now. No, it's a bit weird me Oh, I think they're like sharp His main goal is to blow up and then act like he doesn't know nobody. Oh nice, dude Oh You could have done that in a non-obvious way Yeah, yeah What was that? You'll never find us all Wait, what? What what? That's not interrogation Wait, what what? She stopped he stopped her from Yeah, because he wanted to interrogate him keep going. You guys can run off. He's yeah Then we should be hunting bigger prey. He is not yours to find like what ask this third sister I will not warn you again. Third sister fixation with kenobi or I will relieve you Why do you have a fixation at kenobi? I wonder I bet she's one of the uh the younglings and then she got Brought into the fold as an inquisitor and maybe she has like some sort of grudge against everyone because he fucked up Yeah, I yeah, I think I've already figured it out. She thinks he screwed up because he created He created Anakin. Yeah, I bet now she works for Darth Vader So they just why is she trying to kill him then because that's like why he stopped it. I'm just saying that That's nice. I well, I think I don't know. I have no idea That's because that's where I was I don't care about a motivation. I'm more so That's a great side of a story. I don't care I have no faith that it'll be interesting I feel like a lot of the people who who like me show and say oh, I don't care about a motivation They probably would yeah, I just like I'm also just like why if she's had to explain to her that they're trying to find literal any leads or pieces and Then she's like executing him against her orders and it's like why he's like we should be hunting obi ones Like that doesn't even line up. This is the calcium At this point, I would much rather watch a show that shows how this world operates really like how we get food This is like the most interesting thing I've seen in this Are they just mining they're mining meat from some dead critter. I'm not that good. Yeah. Yeah, I like this All right. Well, yeah, nobby one's working here. I like these wines I work at the meat mines. I think I would have preferred if this was the opening scene Was he stealing that for someone? Is he gonna give that to a child? Oh god I beg for a really nice person for a subtle opening scene. That would have been nice Yeah, that's actually still on my mind the opening scene being a bunch of people getting killed, but I Gonna pan through the timeline with all of those it's only half Please I have a family Wow, Jesus christ take it all. Why are you a dick? Why what if people get paid not because they're dick, but because there's like economic hard times or something Something you want to say? Yeah, you're mean. Yeah, you prick. Hey, I'm Obi-Wan Kenobi. I've fought in the clone wars I'll beat you up. That's what he should say. No, they don't know we is Hey, you look like Obi-Wan Kenobi They don't know him. I mean, I guess we're not we're just not gonna do that this show our way I imagine a lot of people wouldn't know what he looks like You'd think he's one of the biggest war heroes for the republic at that time, but at the same time Until the next day. Well, the people's appearances really get out. Look at the pigs working. What the fuck? I don't know. That's kind of hard to say. They just left the meat out there. I guess it's fine Who comes around the next group? It's dry. It turns into jerky. It's Sand meat. Nothing wrong with a bit of sand. It's a little gritty I'm getting a little bit upset already because this is kind of like what I would want for the whole show Like this kind of vibe And I know it's not what it's gonna be. Thanks for talking over. Yeah rags. What the fuck was the point of that? Like what what do you achieve? I Carry on what were you saying? I think I'm getting a little bit sad now because if this if I could see like this But across the whole show, I think I'd really like this show, but I know that that's not what we're gonna get No, yeah, it's gotta be bombastic and grandiose and like the most you're gonna get at this kind of scene is probably gonna be episode one Yeah, probably for another 10 minutes. Maybe I don't want to plot the start. Okay, stay here. Oh, this is probably where he lives as well Like just in a little cave This is a little hole This is what I mean I like this as a juxtaposition for what his life used to be and now what it is. It's really sad Some hiding chill finally wait for me to get right hustle and hustle for a mission that I hope he has doubts about Like he's not sure about whether it's going to bring anything about The whether he could be doing more, you know, yeah What a nice thing you and mcgregor back Yeah To be honest with you, it's surprising. They're not just I can go to all out and being like let's just make a trilogy Where's the main character fuck it? They did which is what ray makes in tfa. It was a practical setup The little thing she makes No, no, it was like a sci-fi food, but they made it practically It was really kind of cool. Honestly. Um, it's kind of lame that that was CGI, but whatever This was just soup. You could have just don't know whatever Oh, it's a little uh model of a I'll give you 50 I need a new processor board I almost want to see a show that's just jalas doing that thing, you know You don't like this Caps distributors catalytic converters. I actually want to watch the adventures of obi one and this jawa That's the team. That's the buddy cop Oh, he actually escaped. I guess he got away. Wow. They're inquisitors or shit I've heard the Jedi are all but extinct Well, thank you tika. Goodbye I'm rude bro. My first name is it. Yeah, it's chillin homies Order 66 I remember this Yeah, they show this in the beginning Yeah, but now a natural way to incorporate this footage. Yeah Yeah, it doesn't make the four early minutes seem kind of Well, I mean, they were always super fast, but it would be cool Or just like have it maybe make the memories worse than what will the events that he remembers it would be super cool That'd be super cool He's starting to miss remember because he blames himself so much. Yeah He's starting to like more fire on anakin and more pain scream Yeah, and maybe like a more vengeful face on his a more vengeful expression, you know, maybe he's wondering if like he yeah, maybe They have the actors. They could have recreated the scenes, right? Yeah, I wonder if I'm definitely gonna show up He's definitely showing up. He's talking to him now who show up later I think we're done with the slow stuff plots about to begin No, go back to slow stuff. That was fun. Yeah, we got a few minutes. I was gonna say you've had a whole Like five minutes. Come on. That's enough. It's time for an action scene of some kind Hey, we this is we're 20 minutes in and they're doing to be fair that 20 minutes It's been filled with lots of other things. You know, it has The inquisitors stuff is funny Hey, luke Okay, fucking weirdo that old man up on the rocks Hey, hey, don't you believe us alone? Your hope would have been different. It was like, oh, oh, he could be an old benkenobi He just sits on a rock sometimes and watches me with binoculars He just watches my kids from a distance with binoculars Oh, no, he's thinking about pod racing Well, you know, it's because luke was an experienced pilot even by a new hope Which is why he knew how to do it in the trench run. I mean, what we're seeing here is parallels Like that's that's what we're doing there. Yeah the half a joke with the racing thing He's just like an a king Just like that scene was fine except I don't really know why he was watching him through binoculars You know that that feels like he's far away Oh, so the reason he has the little model plane is because obi-wan brought it. Oh, it's a gift to give to him He's cleaned it up and everything. Yeah, that's that's fine. I like that Yeah Okay Oh god shaky. Oh, it'll be the jedi. He'll be like help me obi-wan kenobi on my own Enough with the shaky You're making some kind of mistake. I'm sorry. My name is nari. Oh, I don't care. I'm there's no mistake You're looking for somebody else What are you doing here obi-wan? My name is ben. You have no idea what I've been through Yeah, I do You know I do Yeah, like I actually do you're being very egotistical actually Well, maybe he's referring to something else. You'll draw too much attention, but I know where to go They're hunting me. You have to help me. I'm not really sold by this guy's performance to be honest Welcome to the middle of the desert and bury it in the ground Burry it stay hidden live a normal life. Stop using the force in front of visitors. What about the fight? The fight is done We lost what happened to you? Oh a lot Yeah a lot. Did you not see the first four minutes? The time of the jedi is over the time of cutting meat is at 6 a.m. So I gotta go to sleep I'm a meat miner now. This is what I was born to do. How did he know he was out here? I get how did he know he was out here? He sensed him with the frost Oh, wow, okay Oh, what a lovely planet. I hope nothing bad happens to it Oh, it'll be fine for at least nine years This is what I was missing the sunday of clothing montage It seems so unnecessary to have Storyline for luke old layer to be honest with you My guess would be that they they saw like a uh, oh, we can have like older on actually be a setting We've never really done that in like the you know, mainline stuff Well, yeah, I'll have to see what they choose to do with it You would find it amusing your highness. How the fuck didn't the rest of them knows? Man they are not reliable servants if they just do whatever they're really not yeah execute them fire I love running in the wood with my little bug with a new toy that we're gonna sell What's his cute name tell us lungus That's not cute. What's this moulin? She's gonna pretend a pod race, too You know it is Everything's leaving now Down no lola for the rest of the day, but she didn't do anything shut her down. No, it's it's not a punishment for it God you're stupid If you behaved as well as you climb You'd be a senator already in the past tense. It's club senator already senator already. Oh, no All I ever do is wave Then do more than wave you get out of this what you put into a dance or something. I don't know I promise I won't do it again Liar, too She's gonna take the ladybug. You know, I can feel you doing that You can't have oh, no the shaky camera back That means there's someone watching them from the tree Oh, look CGI smoke. Yeah, that's a shame. Why oh my gosh Man that meat cuts well. Jeez. It's like butter. It's a knife. It's it's the quality of the knife Yeah, it is the blade right and that's what he's allowed to do that because he's not subtle about it at all It doesn't look like he's allowed to but that but he's so obvious that it's like he must be right Oh, this is the scene with the guy with the wamp nose. No, we had that already that already happened. You missed it Oh Hey, that's not a gun train. Just no, it's just a regular train It's a little train. I want my gun train back. I need it'll evolve over time now. We'll get it Oh, it's a little baby gun train. Gotcha. I gave you you can't you brought a big truck today I want you to stay away from it Oh freak. That's why he's not in there in person then Is he okay? You care if he's showing he's my responsibility I'm his uncle. We talked about this when the time comes. He must be trained like you trained his father Yeah, I mean, yes, but you know I've trained a lot of people and I won't let you make the same mistake twice Know while we are here Who are you? There's a jedi hiding on this planet Probably even more on this. Well, it's a planet dude. They're pretty big. He wouldn't happen to be around here. What are you? Or you'll be punished Just something to beg the other side of the planet already. She's not very nice. This is the outer rim. We're not under the empire Okay, all right then Is she not still screaming? Well, no, that's done with now. That's over. She calmed down Yeah, maybe she passed out. We didn't see it would have been really easy to just show her pass out from there. You know something Wait, why is she picking on him? What? Because he looked at you about yeah use use force mind thing. Kyla did it Farmer, right? How did you why don't you know that kids? Is everyone a farmer? Is all the meme concerned? They might be You got a jedi on your phone too No, why should I know I would have no love. What on me jedi vermin You protect your family Yes I like that on him You think you could protect him from me? Why would Why would you say that? Why what why would Wow, okay. What the fuck like we don't know I'm lucky day for him. It's so unlikely that he was here today I like that the whole plot's gonna be good because on the day that Owen decided to confront Obi-Wan These guys they would not do the same Hey, Obi-Wan gave him a prezzie last night. All right. He was prompted So the the other inquisitive stone seems to be happy about this. Why are they letting her do this? Now we just don't like the empire and you're dumb Wait, what if you remember anything? Rewards will be given That's a different way of convincing people. Yeah, we're gonna care it. Yeah, we're gonna care it not stick here No, it's a bit late. Is it randomly killing people like I don't know She's very angry Bitch you keep ruining our good cop bad cop thing by being extreme You are too impulsive You are too impulsive But he's gone Yeah, you won't find him. I mean you are looking at his word, right? We're game my thing. I don't know What I'm on Careful third sister if you go too far Maybe you don't go far enough. All right, then Well, we've established a difference between these guys valleys. Oh, there it goes. Amen Thank you, Owen. Say that louder. Yeah, like someone else is like, wait, are you a Jedi? He's like, no, I can get the reward. Let me call them right new for right. Thank you for what? Well, because the thing that I put down wasn't for everyone. It's for that other guy. Well, yeah, of course So it's just the Obi-Wan saying thank you for that. Yeah, I know. I know careful me. Hopefully nobody heard you Right on time as always or Luke leaving in some dirt He gets me fucking royalty on this glistening beautiful planet The empire is finally lining some pockets Is Or cpc-3po Where would he be? He could have been. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I'm so well, he would be with older on. Yeah same with rtd2 You thank your droids You don't need manners when you're talking to a lower life for oh, he's bigoted. Okay You know the difference between you and me cousin Uh-oh, I know things. You know, my father says they never let you leave this planet They don't want anybody to know about you because you're not one of us. You're not even a real organ Yeah, he should he probably shouldn't know that you're scared. He absolutely shouldn't literally nobody except her parents should know that Not even she should know that you're scared of him your father You want him to like you so you repeat what he says even though you don't really know what it means Never made one decision for yourself in your entire life and never will never will I don't know how How is she this annoying when she's this old? He's your cousin You have to rise above layer You have to rise above that God, she's gonna love the solo. He's an asshole to droids It seems like you missed the opportunity to have people bully her being different and that she doesn't know how to deal with it yet Because she's so young. Yeah, wouldn't it deal it place? I had a whole plan It's way better than a moisture farm in the middle of some bad water Or ask mogadishu looking just the whole this is your future this insane wonderful metropolis of glistening alabaster buildings Don't ever say that you are a child you are And we're gonna in every way Why did they tell you that she's not an organa she has to know by the start of the rt, right? She's a newborn when they she's given over so they just need to fake some papers and hide a pregnancy Well, I guess I guess people might have their power people might have known I suppose that mother wasn't pregnant, but you can fake all of that Yeah, remember they didn't hear that if she made a public appearance like a week before Leia arrived and they couldn't write but people on this universe don't care about pregnancies. We learned that from the prequels I thought you said you've really got through to her What if you hire someone to not let her do that? Yeah, or just lock the door. Oh wait. We got creepy creepy men are outside. Yeah, so Oh, yeah, that guy Wow, she is just running straight into him, huh? Oh, you didn't even because I believe you Don't talk to him Did your parents not teach you that rule? Oh, god, look at this stranger danger. Look at his outfit stranger danger. Oh, oh where those come from? What the fuck? Why did she run up to him? Let's have a light I can't wait for the child. What is that run? What is that? It's a child, you know slow they are Oh, no, you got me I can't get under there Oh god, they're so slow. Oh, no, you got me bad. What is this? He's gonna get shot in front of her Michelle complete that was the stupidest chase That was embarrassing Again, they could have just got it. Like wow, you have a cgi. They could have just got it right away And instead they had to show us how incompetent they were first She's wandering around she turns around and thing overhead. You didn't need a lot. What the fuck. Yeah You would catch up to her too easily she has to slow himself They knew where she would be she left unreliably and unusually but she always unreliably goes out there That's what I'm saying. Like how could you Unreliable they live there. They didn't know where she were. We're only like the king and queen of a planet We can't afford someone to like watch after her Can't you like hires and private investigators or something on your planet? You're talking to literally a guy who fucking has to steal meat from his own job It's been 10 years I'm not who I used to be Find someone else Yeah, like Julie you have the resources and the the connections to be able to hire some. Oh, they left the planet. Wow Wait a minute scenery gets hot It's not gonna be about Luke then it'll be about Leia that'll be the which I guess If you had to make it about one of the two It makes more sense that she would be the thing that we've kicked off We couldn't have anything happen. Yeah, his whole childhood was uneventful. Well, I'm assuming it's just gonna be someone's after Anyone else to help anyone and well, that's what he said. He said I would have been the Jedi they caught him. Oh, they didn't even hang him by the neck They did this weird like comfortable looking cuz I was about to say, oh man That's pretty grim that they hung him there and they just on his torso. Yeah, there's nobody would hang anybody this way Come on Why is his head up if it's not tied up by a thing his head would be hanging down Oh, maybe maybe it was originally a noose and then they were like, that's too dark and they CGI'd in That's too dark. Yeah, that would explain that actually at what happened. Yeah, that's exactly what happened I feel like the good scenes are done now. No more The one where he cut meat the one where he talked to the Jawa Oh, that's right. He's headed for Daioh They hid their signature behind a freight transport. I can't she's my daughter. I hope you won I'm not the man you remember. Well, you're going to have to be you've made mistakes. We all did It's the past Move on be done with it. Oh, okay You couldn't say what I'm doing by not getting involved. Yeah. Yeah, you can't hire like a alien Private eye You can't hire limero They let her keep that they let her keep that keep that nice I didn't think that the obu and kanobi show would be mostly me being annoyed at a young leia organa Wow, it has a little bus Oh, well rip Yeah, he could do that. Alderaan doesn't have an army. Does it he could send a whole I guess they have a security force It's pretty Security force and they they clearly have Yeah That's right. It's true money money can't be exchanged for goods and services And what what he said as his rationale for getting obu wants to do this is that it's too dangerous to get anybody else because they might figure out Something about leia and where she comes from. Why but she's adopted people know that even the kid Well, she's the daughter of royalty Why wouldn't it be enough to say that like just we care about her? She's our kid I guess unless you I guess the problem is they must be presuming that this has something to do with like her lineage That seems like otherwise. Why would you assume that? You know, oh my god. Yeah, and he remembers the spot Yeah He's maybe sensitivity coordinates. He took coordinates. I don't fucking know Don't tell me you got on the first fuck off So he was just how he dug like he dug and then he hesitated like here it is and then it was just like fully yeah He would have seen it ages ago like Oh Here we go again. Oh, he's got Oh, yeah, you would have the two of us, of course. Yeah. Yeah I'm hearing people cooming all over the world from the same those will be ray skywalkers one day or something I can't even remember at this point. So that's the through line Oh, she's literally doing this to draw out Kenobi So, yeah So it's actually the opposite then that they shouldn't be using Kenobi for this job Because he's the last person that should get involved considering the nature of him and bail organa's relationship and stuff Well, that's I think that was his point right because he meant to protect luke and how can he do that if he Well, also just that him getting involved in any of this makes lots of questions raised Why don't you tie up bounty hunter? They they keep the eyes. I'm sure I really don't understand the rationale of not hiring It's so much better and you can get more and they can work openly With more power so many and you don't jeopardize Don't be so in that shit. Wow There don't you know what that means when everyone sees that Damn, I ain't getting on that I guess we're gonna hear john williams new theme. Oh Well, I mean they honestly right, you know, we're talking over it. Oh, you're it. Wait. No, I'm just kidding Are you serious or not? I mean, it was it was like that one. It was like you seen just undefined Yeah, like this is an improvement Nothing happens really I guess but it's fine. I suppose I feel like the plot points that we have so far are dumb and they'll probably be made more dumb with context But like we could be doing way worse. We definitely could be don't worry. We will we will That was probably the most embarrassing chase sequence. I've ever seen It's definitely up there. Is it more embarrassing than the uh than the multicolor bike chase from Yes, Boba fat. Yes. I think this was more pathetic. They had to waddle jay They had to waddle we have to pretend that like there's no way they could have caught her And we have to cut every time anything ever happened Like you had someone just run into a tree because you just needed them to just run Oh, I really did run to them. They could have um, they could have had her Like escaped down like a tight hole or something that they couldn't fit in or like climb a tree They established that she climbs trees and then felt they're like, oh no a tree That would have been less embarrassing The main problem that we got here is that the thing that brings obi-wan back into the fold to go fight is pretty Contrived. Well, yeah, it's all it doesn't make any sense. Well, so yeah The inquisitor's logic is jimmy smith's character bail organo is friends with obi-wan during the clone war's big big old time So if we kidnap his daughter, it'll draw him to it'll it'll have him try and contact kanobi It'll draw kanobi out Which is a plan It's a bit rough around the edges, but she's been established to be that so I guess, you know Here's the question is that not going to cause problems for her like if they find out that she did this Presumably so, but I guess she believes that she's going to be fine Bail could fire anyone. That's the thing that I'm really hung up on Is that like there's no reason to assume that bail would be like, okay, the army could deal with this She needs you obi-wan We can't trust anyone else. What about the senate? We cannot let this become public. We will guard then Or a bounty hunter So it's oh, he didn't really address the question Why not use a bounty hunter because you're the only one who knows how important she is She's already incredibly important on a surface level. She's your daughter Yeah, if you give a bounty hunter a master's pile of cash, which they have This might be a more relevant thing to bring up if only he knows how important she is It might actually be a really bad idea to get him to get involved because that might reveal That's what I was saying when I said it's the opposite We've gotten the you the logic they provide should lead to obi-wan staying the fuck away from all of this Because if they find out like wait obi-wan's trying to rescue leia why why why would you do this? Well, I mean the assumption would be that he was friends with bail right and the bail contacted him Yeah, but if anybody Gives a stronger eye to it and is like, all right, let's torture him Let's see what we can get I mean just just think about it though like bail so bail was friends with obi-wan But he's also a rich senator on on a alderon. He could like hire lots of people. He probably knows lots of people This obi-wan going after leia here kind of I mean pretty closely confirms that at least bail is in contact with him Which means that surely the inquisitors will show up at his door Why is obi-wan coming to help out because like yeah bail is still part of the senate like so he's still part of the The government in a sense I'm not clear on right is the is the alderon senate separate as an entity from the empire or do they mean the senate in the empire? No, he's part of the galactic senate. The galactic senate doesn't get dissolved until about a new hope It's still there. It's just got no bangs And he's asking that he request help from the senate And he's like we can't make it a public matter which is absurd. This is because I bet on the local level Planetary senates are still pretty darn powerful First of all the bill is going to disappear Everybody in their staff will notice that because all their jobs regarding the girl will be done There's guards that were sent to go and get her and she's disappeared so they know one of them is dead one of them is dead Yeah, so no way. This isn't public words getting out the lair organ is really going Um, secondly, why are you concerned about it being public anyway? Wouldn't that help you? So, yeah, there's this this assumption I think this is an intuitive reasoning that people will grab but it doesn't make sense They'll be like, yeah, you wouldn't want too much attention on this because people might find out that she's anakin's daughter And you're like, why would they find that out? No, in fact Is that people will be keeping an eye out for her all over the galaxy People's kids get kidnapped. Dude. Do you think maybe Especially when you're a royalty I think I think just imagine it this way It's like if you get the word out and it's public that lair has been kidnapped It's like that means you've got many many eyes that we'll be looking out for her Like and if you put out a big bouncy of like, yeah, if you can find her and then bring her back safely You would get paid. Yeah I will give you this massive pile of cash And you'll be on the good side of a royal family of a beautiful planet Yeah, you're gonna have a lot of people looking to bring her back to safest Well, surely surely the empire would get in on it. Surely you get like empire troops like, hey A senator's daughter has been kidnapped. Yeah, this is a member of the government. We are an empire. We actually do things We are an empire. We we perform functions Maybe that would be happening anyway And he would get obu on as well because he maybe doesn't trust the empire Doesn't seem like that. What's happening though seems like Yeah, it'd be great to have that explored, right? It'd be great to see him go Oh, yeah, the stormtroopers. They've sent loads of stormtroopers to find her, but like I'm not really convinced they're Maybe this is actually something to do with the empire, right? See those suspicions developing him or whatever See you actually get a reason to suspect that the stormtroopers aren't trying to bring her back You know what else is because it's inquisitive is stupid about using Kenobi as opposed to anybody else a bounty hunter is like free The ability to travel the universe while he's like wearing a face that is Can get him in trouble at any moment very Kenobi like yeah Well, also he doesn't like have a ship or anything. So he has to fly around He's literally a weapon for attack and defense is a signal that he's a Jedi like Yeah, it's pretty catastrophic, especially Jango Fett is just someone who's just so much better for this job I know he's dead, but my point is just a type like that Well, Mando, I guess we could just say yeah, because you'd be around Oh, dude, they might even have Mando show up in this is there's no reason they wouldn't right How old would he be at this point? 15 years younger than he is in the show. So he'd be in his like 30s like early 20s, maybe Yeah, he'd be a young young bounty hunter But still do you think it was maybe like a really weak attempt of them to do the whole political things? Like oh if they figure out that we can't even take care of our daughter Our standing is gonna go down and they're not gonna respect them anymore That because they do because they do the whole thing with I would still recommend a bounty hunter a private bounty hunter Absolutely, I was I was just trying to figure out what the fuck that we're going for here because it's fucking stupid Because they got a whole thing to get with the party they has like oh Politician talk stuff and then they'd be like we can't let anyone know because we have a high standing I think way more interested in this right if they started out Where they where they actually did hire a bounty hunter and we got this bounty hunter doing it And then at some point a a specific A clearer reason for Obi-Wan to get involved develops To be honest with you. I'm not too fond of she gets kidnapped and that's gonna be the storyline What if he did hire a bounty hunter? And the bounty hunter unbeknownst to him Was a Jedi the bounty hunter gets killed The empire discover the bounty hunter he hired happened to be a Jedi which sets suspicions I don't know. Yeah, I have to again. It's like, uh, it's too close. I want to stay as far away as possible You know, that's why I don't even like nobby's on a mission to rescue lair. I'm like I would rather just never see a Jedi ever again I think I think the problem is it's gonna be hard To make any show that is about Obi-Wan going on an adventure that returns to the status quo that they need for A new hope that isn't gonna cause like some big You'd have to have them do low level stuff on tattooing here and there Yeah, which isn't like that's that's not very marketable. It was like a exciting limited series Well, I have to But it's when you'd have to make it like a character focused Thing, which is not what they do That's what they should have done because that would have been the only thing that I think you could because because even here It's like I said before you can't have the story be about luke because nothing happened with luke He had an event like well, it could it could be so it could be people getting close to finding luke To stop them and then well, so I think that's what I thought they were gonna do Um, I don't think I but but it seems to me like we're not going to see luke again until probably episode six And that it's much more about laia, which if you have to pick one of the two It makes more sense for it to be her, but it's still Like oh, you know, like it's it's uh, it's a little bit of a stretch to imagine that um Obi-Wan have like any direct connection with laia because doesn't laia Introduce him in a new hope as though she's never met him herself only He's she even says a friend of my father during the war or something like that Unless maybe maybe this will be them retroactively making it that this was how she knew about him I don't get this Yeah, like I guess we could we could you might have enough wiggle room And that's what they're relying on for literally every line from the ot at this point Is there enough wiggle room to be able to do some stuff? I'm sorry. Why are we pretending that in this series vader doesn't fight him three times? All right, right because I mean I'm not I'm just dealing with this thing first I guess I guess we there's not much left really other than to see Like what will come of all this the reason we're focusing so hard on that one plot point is because it's just the thrust of the entire show There's lots of little bits that surround it that aren't great either, but uh I think quizzes are fine They cringe I mean that's why the first thing that comes to mind She's just like unstable. I don't know why she can keep doing that and they're not saying listen You maybe you're fired. Maybe that'll be a source of conflict going forward She was because I doubt she told any of them about this and when they find out they're probably gonna be furious But I guess what what'll probably happen is They'll be furious, but then Obi-Wan will reveal himself and then that'll give you Oh, yeah, he'll He'll tell you what actually happened. He'll tell her stuff She'll probably fucking beat him in a fight and then you'll have to explain everything and and she'll be like, you know what? You're not actually maybe you're not so bad actually. I was wrong. Well, yeah She's gonna probably become good. I feel like It's very predictable at this point that like any major like I don't know someone who's in the fold of the empire. We've just got so many instances of them turning good at this point The other two won't turn good. No that no, uh, but she's obviously like the the main character of the uh The inquisitor she's got the most stuff going on the other two are just kind of there Well, yeah, that's the other problem. See this is my main problems with the inquisitor scene wasn't actually necessarily like Characterization it was just cringiness. There's lots of cringes. Oh, absolutely. They well the exposition was pretty bad Yeah, yeah, and do you know what we do? Yes, you do this I think uh, the only reason that was there is because they probably know that the majority of people who watch star wars stuff Have never really seen inquisitors before they've only been in like games Like we would see them fucking hunting jedi like we don't need we saw them doing the thing that they do for this whole episode Yeah, so much of so much of what they do It would be so much but talk lasts for fuck's sake He has like a huge speech Oh, yeah, and his voice is not intimidating enough. I'm sorry You know who we are. So what is the jedi to do? Help you No, they're like stoic and silent for this whole thing. It would be so cool It's just like these these shadows that move and move across the place searching for the jedi and killing them Yeah, imagine. Yeah, you he walks into that bar and he says 100,000 credits to whoever Tells us where they are and then he just leaves and everyone looks at each other like holy fuck A hundred doubt like that's that's life changing money. Yeah That's insane like holy shit and like back and forth and obi one's like Oh, should I defend the people who are willing to turn me in for money? He's like, oh boy How interesting when I mentioned like a really casual problem Like he gets ransacked by some jawas and they find his lightsaber or something He has to go track it down. Yeah And the jawas they try to like rat him out and he has like tried to find a way to stop the jawas But that's like, you know, you can't really kill them. I'm like, oh the jawas say Oh, if you want to buy it off of us, we'll sell it to you But it's x amount of credits and he's like, but I don't have that kind of money He's like, well, we'll give you two weeks to give us get us that money or else We're gonna tell him we're gonna tell it You don't be like because because we because we know each other so well We'll give you first dibs one week and he's like one week and they're like Five days I mean, if you are uh, if you are a lightsaber replies Is that they definitely want him to be going around with his lightsaber in this? I guess it could be luke's lightsaber that they find But that's the thing though It gives you the opportunity to be like how fucking clever is obi one as a character How resourceful using the force in loads of subtle ways using weaponry that we're not familiar with him using And then when he gets that lightsaber back, it's that much more meaningful And then he can get the lightsaber back and he can like maybe have a climactic fight against like a villain of the piece of something I don't know fun There are ways to do it There are ways there are ways to do it There's a lot of ideas here that I mean we've just given off the top of our heads that I think are better Because what we have is just well because our foundation is pretty crumbly That's right now for the show and so it's like and that's the best it's probably going to be I have a feeling Honestly, if you gave me both all of the stuff it's like elevator pictures, right? Would you like to see this show where obi one's lightsaber gets stolen by jawa's and he has to like buy their silence Or would you rather see a show where lair gets kidnapped and obi one is like summoned to go and save her I want the jawa one. Yeah. Yeah, I want to see him just like how do in the star wars universe You have to make a hundred thousand credits or whatever in a week your obi one kanobi What do you do like you'd also just have the thing of like you would probably have to consider drastic means of silencing the jawa's like Oh, would he consider killing them? Would that be something I think we need to have that kind of Quantary for him. Yeah, would he would he execute someone who knows too much? That's our seasons second act low point So to speak where I don't I like like the job that I thought was going to pay it It didn't work out things went sideways and now I've got to consider I might not actually be able to get the money Do I have to steal it? Do I have to like do crimes in order to get the money to get this lightsaber back or do I Fuck up the jawa's like well. Hey, do I give it up or do I just say? Yeah, do I just say fuck it and I find a new place. Can I take care of luke? I don't know if I maybe I can't even maybe I'm not able to do that Maybe my cover is blown. It's like we're in this place Like oh no, we have to do like we have to get in all these things from the other things We have from star wars we have to crunch them all in like you know these people these people these people Crunch them all in any means necessary. Don't do anything Interesting. I'm really upset because I've just we've just put together a show that I really want to watch again Literally watching something that had all the resources to make that because like what we what we've just described there Probably wouldn't be like that intensive on the budget. It would take place entirely in tattooing probably and it's low level It wouldn't have any ripples in the universe. He could go. Yeah, he could go off I mean he could be a bounty hunter and always wear a helmet That's the thing and he wouldn't have a is is he suddenly uses the force here and then there's certain instances Where he really like he could make a friend fight with them and he saves them at one point with the force and they're like You uh, shit. Yeah, you have the force. That's what maybe that that clues in his buddies He's been working with that there is a huge Price on his head this guy that they've been hanging out with and that could be our moment where they're like We're not what a great like because we've been we've been with you for x amount of episodes And you got us out of some scrapes and yeah money's money, but You're you're a good guy and you know, you're so bad after all You have a whole group of them, right? And then like you have some personalities that you just know Would sell him in a heart in a heartbeat, but maybe two or three guys who are much more reliable and loyal and stuff and so you just Create a whole big fight there The payoff is the person that he's like at odds with the entire time Decides in the end to not give him up because of you Well, they maybe have some kind of bounty hunter code, right? And it's like we don't give our own up and that guy could that guy could stand in the way of the others Even though he doesn't like obi one That's a payoff for a relationship that's built between a crew, you know, they don't give you up When that when money's what they've wanted this entire time and they choose to not You know give them up, but but that would be Then you have like an actual surprising thing that happens that you build up like you have a couple of episodes But they do just I don't know bounty hunter things Like we could have done in mando, but we don't do that Yeah, let's have bounty hunter go on kanobi show. Fuck it No, then you don't even call it anything with kanobi Like you keep it completely secret and then you have the big reveal like episode six or whatever It was like, whoa, what the fuck and then you end on Whatever he is like a bounty hunter and he uses the force is like, whoa What the fuck was that's gonna be and then nobody knows and then the next episode you get the reveal It's like, oh fuck that would be a really cool thing to lead into a a proper kanobi show. Yeah Yeah, that that would earn your reveals don't just like look at the character Ding-a-ding-a-ding-a-ding You know, he could maybe change his hair die as beards to come across as a different person Yeah, maybe maybe he could disguise himself by using makeup to look like he was another race No, that would be a good choice. He could he could actually use whiteface like the inquisitor. Yeah, yes Anyway, that was Kenobi's opening episode Great Yeah, that was a thing, you know, that was that that happened The reason I wasn't disappointed is because my expectations were really low. Yay Help you Hello Star Kenobi one obi John Kenobi Wars is not John. Is he he's not John Kenobi yet Jedi evolved. Oh, yeah, that's probably something we didn't know about the last episode It's just like how is he doing? How's all Kenobi? And it's like, it's fine. It's fine so far. I mean so far We don't Oh, it's been 10 years. I don't really know if I'm the same person Like he has doubts. I can I can see that happening I think it's impossible not to portray him in a bad state personally because of what's happened after episode three I think that's totally fine because he I don't think we should see him as the guy. He is in a new hope Much more confident and kind of like cheeky And and happy about blah blah blah Because I think it's fair to use this show as the thing that takes him So they're depending on because I'm assuming this is one and done I'm not assuming there's not gonna be like a Kenobi season two. I guess we'll find out maybe that Well, I feel like they're not gonna close the doors on a Kenobi season two surely to be fair If I were in the company I'd be like you probably shouldn't because this is gonna be the kind of thing that everyone wants to see I think it is being presented as a limited series though Maybe they can change their mind later, but I think this is meant to be one and done I guess. Yeah, we need more to work with before I can say what I'm thinking about But I think um, it's already a knock against him and bail that they've agreed to this crazy stupid plan Is I don't like seeing him brandish his fucking lightsaber. Why would you do that like ever? A trailer shot. Yes, they did They could just film a shot that looks good in the trailer and then not even put it in the show I would be more happy about that I wanted it there They thought it was cool when he probably should just get a blaster or something He probably shouldn't even take his lightsaber because if he gets captioned like god damn, you're in a lot of trouble I swear this is like he has to get on public transportation like mando told us you can't bring your weapons Right, that's right. He needs to leave his weapons and then he puts his lightsaber in the tub. It's like what is that? Oh, it's just It's um, it's just like a little baton. Yeah, it's a little baton. It's like only like handle stick I can't even like every round everywhere fell into my possession I'm going to trade it for lots of money on in the desert I guess you could say that but then the guy might be like, you know what? I think I want to trade you to the empire for lots of money You know, he's like well, I've got a lightsaber He says that really loudly as well. Who are you? Oh shadow Oh my god, could we get it for once previously again? They've skipped the previously on the prequels. I need to see it again They definitely chapped that off to it. It's a bizarre way to act somebody. Make sure you hack him by his belly. You're like, what? What are these huge creatures on Tatooine eat to sustain their massive titanic bodies and baby And they eat sand the sand nibblers And you know what? I'm just thinking about it. What's the security of the planet like they just We're able to enter their airspace land and just do whatever they want to take her and go back up Right, like I think they just well. No, they're mercenaries a way line a palace would have guards They were mercenaries supposed to be mercenaries. No, no not spoiled by the empire. She's doing this secretly She's doing it. I know that yeah, remember they don't like her reckless and uh Impulsive there's no way they'd approve of this. No, you can tell by how they let her do it But then they're like don't do that at the end. Well, yeah, because imagine if they found out that the inquisitors did it That'll cause tons of problems. Yeah Did they show like a little mouse droid? I think so. I think they did They always had new things each time. Oh cool. There's stall will stuff rags appreciate it I love it. I hope it's a gonk droid next Oh, yeah Oh, okay, we're off to when they uh, I guess maybe we'll get a flashback to the temple again later on I feel like we're done with that stuff. Maybe I don't think we're done with it How could we be done without that set that felt like it was why would they show it and then have a dead end? It didn't go anywhere as far as I feel like we're gonna get the reveal that one of these people Look where it's in the show now probably the Black and blue lady was one of those kids, right? That's gonna be there Presumably springy saying that we'd get that in the form of a flashback though I think we're gonna get the flashback that explains how she gets brought into the fold and why she hates them I might At least we're on a new planet. Yeah, I'm happy to be Oh my god God it's been so long since we've been in like a city and in star wars, you know We've wasted his potential for so long. I guess we have the half halo ring. That was kind of a city Yeah, so very brief. Does he have any leads? He's headed for dayou They hid their signature behind a freight transport. The ship is on its way there now. I'm looking for a ship I was tracking its signature. You're in dayou now. All signals in around are blocked I want to see a story of a dude who lives in this city. I just want to see like how people live in the star wars world Yeah Oh my god, he's so conspicuous though. Like yeah, that is the jedi outfit, man This is where I expect to see the body mod people not on tatooine unironically rather Oh Wait, it's a zombie It's a zombie. It's a clone. It's a clone. Yeah Cause he'll be getting old now, yeah He's a fiber first clone. He was in um He was in the shoot up um on the jedi temple. He's a fiber first Man, it's a good chance. He would recognize kenobi that's Well, he did a really bad job of hiding your face there, bud Uh, I guess this guy doesn't care anymore though. He's being discarded He wasn't even in your way. Well, that's like a whole story. Yeah, that would be dude It would be so fucking good to have a main character being a discarded clone Yeah, it's like you have to serve our purposes now. We don't care. We've got stormtroopers in you know Yeah, because they're cycling in the stormtroopers. We want some spice old man. What do you need? Some information I'm looking for my daughter because she was taken and she's on this planet. I planted I like her response. Yeah, you probably want to see her again. It's a fucking planet, bro I was someone's daughter once too That one's free A couple more of those and you'll forget she ever existed. I wonder if that'll be relevant. There's a jedi He helps people for the right price Give him the drugs. Yeah, give him the drugs Why do I need another jedi? Wait, why would I say yes to this? I don't know Oh, I guess he has a jedi. Okay. It's not a great secret cap though, is it? No. Yeah, apparently not Who's this fucker? Dinesh from silicon valley. He's in a couple things. He was an eternalist. Yeah, he was an eternalist. Yeah I meant more like Oh Can you do this over this distance? Do you think he's a fraud? He's yeah, he's a fraud, right? Yeah, he's gotta be Yeah, the force is so strong with you. Yeah Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's fine. I like it. There's an idea. Yeah, I like that as an idea It's risky though. God damn it. I was gonna say you're gonna get yourself killed I guess To show up and it would just be like no, I actually don't know how to use the force That's gonna be a bit late. They'll just kill him for the sake of it. Were they I don't be hard to prove Like how do you prove to someone? I can't use the force, you know You must My safety depends upon it I actually really like the touch. Yeah, the jedi grifter or just a grifter in general like That's a fun idea. I like it. I really would have been funny if there's a little Automatic blinds like that's just a control on them. Yeah, exactly. All right. It's really fun Okay, call you in a little bit Mad would have made a good idea to check if someone was okay for a jedi Man it took a while for him to notice him a girl has been kidnapped. I need your help to find her Did he just actually buy like I am haja Because everyone followed for this wasn't what he just said in ear shot of like he knows that Kenobi would have heard him I think he's memeing What Kenobi is yeah, he's 300 to take it to him. Goodness that light is unforgiving I mean that's a really good deal. Oh make it a thousand. I'll even show you some tricks What do you know of the fourth my friend just there's a lot of remotes and magnets Oh Okay, I know how this looks. Yes. It looks like it just took money from that family. I got them say and you let them do it Yeah What are you about any hunter? You're a bottom feeder A rat this rat's no more about the sewers than anyone else. I'm not sure about this from everyone This feels a little bit Unlike him. I'm gonna help me find this girl. It's a little quick for him to get here Well, like I feel like we would have need to have seen the development, right? Can I trust you? Definitely because like it's been 10 years. I'm happy to believe he got here But you need to see it. All right, if it's the sewers you want, there's only one place to go But you'll never get it Well, but as rags pointed out It's weird to have righteous indignation about taking money from the family when he was right there He could have done anything about that. You let him do it. You let him do that You could have stopped him. Oh, what the fuck is that? Hey, look at oh no Go on my way to Roswell right now in fact Oh Dude this outfit is what he should be wearing at all times Yeah, I was I was avoiding just pointing out breaking bad, but in Star Wars Since it's been raised breaking bad batch is of drugs. Nice He's just sort of got in here, I guess that guy's face is like a fucking hole Oh god, the Ellen Meyer flask. I reckon he did that on purpose And he's chill about oh wow that was so obvious What you should have used the if your whole goal is not to be seen then Maybe you should have used the force for that and then really settle keeps the mask on What are you doing back here my team? I fell inventory. Oh, look. He's like north way Yeah, get back to work Man you waited a while that wow, why did you just let him hit him Why not just give him a little bit of choke so they pass out Yeah Only you could use the force to like make it look like you're just really good at hand to hand combat Like you probably could if you're that's thing if you're subtle with the force you could it's insane That's what I think their opportunity is yeah, they should be doing that It was cool shit that he can do with the force to settle. It's fake. It's it's it's yeah That's not lay out. Oh my god. It's the waddlers Well, this went really bad, huh? Yeah, I didn't know that Jedi could bleed. Oh, I know he's Jedi Not figured you'd be smarter than to risk everything for a spoiled little Yeah, same Yeah, you really played this like a video game press Awe lame lame lame Dude use the force Yeah, you have to now you have to They already know he's a Jedi. It's too late. Use the force. Yeah, you're not getting out of here They also know you can use the force, right? That would be surely these witnesses would pay for a dead Jedi I imagine I honestly I'd shoot him because he's obi-wan Kenobi. I would fucking shoot Oh, wow, you copied a breaking bad this Is not a mess Well, everybody believes Oh, they're gonna forget remember they're gonna forget because of the drugs. That's incredible. That's just fucking incredible of all Wow That's not reliable. Like you can't rely on that for them to forget. Yeah, but he can't No, I know he can't he said you would have to take multiple of those to forget He she ever existed what if there's a camera in there out in a large room on the floor Oh, there she is Okay, your father sent me. I'm here to help you Where's the army? That's a great question What is the army? Very good question. Also that so that drug knocks you out as well then I guess I guess though What a great recreational doesn't knock you out. It makes you forget you're awake It fills the whole room too. It's just like what a what a taste test Do you want to actually hide in his face? It's like I thought she was telling him something to like give him a good time But she actually just saw them fucking re-hitting all like well She sent she gave him that because he he was trying to get his daughter And she's like just forget your daughter with this I mean this won't really make them forget anything though. I like what they must be cameras in this place And at that point it's over surely Oh man. Lucky. She wasn't here at the time Where is he we have to change why here you give me the orange one you take Oh, they had him in her size. That's nice. Well, they have Jawa's the work from I'm sure You suddenly care who knows you're a Jedi More like your loneliness Oh, they found out I found a link between him and Organa in the archives and you did this without informing me You left me no choice. She thinks you didn't show choice. Let's not tell you how come they didn't know it will not change what you are And what is that the least of us? Racism came to us from the gutter your ability gave you station Why are you telling her things she knows because we need to never bring you come on That was a weird adults the stench Maybe that stench is your failure That's not a great comeback. Yeah, that's really nice. It's really you are no longer required sister. Hi Rocka no be here. You've been fired. So much better. Hi so much better. She's cold and fresh Stand down Hey, you did bring him here by capturing a senator's daughter Based on a connection she found in the archives that she didn't let them know about which is so odd Why wouldn't she tell them about that connection like seriously and then why didn't everyone know already? Unless he leaves the planet before I don't want them to catch him. I want them to squeeze him. I don't know what that means I don't know what that means Wow, we're kind of doing like the john wixie. Yeah Man, he just gets he's like here I go killing t-rex I just I just love killing Put your thing on put your hood on if you have that mask, you'd still be okay Dude, he's walking around with his face on it. You should know this already Dude, you know, he treats that so casually like oh man. I got a bounty on me. He's like, dude You're fucking screwed like it doesn't matter where you go now They know who you are and they send it out to everyone. It was bad enough before just by being obi-wan kanobi But now yeah, there's a bounty on you You don't need those And the gloves how about something to cover the face? Oh, wait, is he spending his own money or did bail actually help him out in any way? Actually He doesn't fuck it out. I hope so. He didn't spend any money on anything else. So if anyone asks we're farmers from tall and you're my daughter What No, what are you wearing? What are you wearing? Dude, I wouldn't be surprised. They're just fucking walk into vader and it's like whatever now that's happening She gonna touch a hot fucking grill Why aren't you using your lightsaber? Right now I don't care if you stop announcing that I read that Jedi can make things float You shut the fuck up, please I Surely she like understands that this is a serious situation. I know she's young But she has to know that this is not like this is dangerous He's just been captured and taken to a strange planet Well, I think that what they've done is they're like Leia's signature trait is being cheeky to people and it's like You think the less you say the less you give away. It's the officer. How old are you 10? I don't sound like you're 10. Yeah, suck off. Wait, was that supposed to be insightful? Thank you This is my problem with this is they're trying to argue. She's like a prodigy child But at the same time she's an idiot right now I'm annoyed that he's already like been found out and the bounty's been released in fucking halfway through episode two Look at this reward, sis Wow, you're just gonna go and try and kill him, all right Oh, okay. He loves going to him again Don't hate my black bear Keep it on. Why does he keep doing that? Where's the first person? Oh, wow He's mad at the corner He's the uppercut at him Right now take his clothes Make sure the port is shut down. I want to garrison here within the island I feel like he could just book a hotel and stay here for like, you know, weeks Yeah, just lay low Especially when we gotta shut down the port. Yeah, and it's like surely there's more than one port in this whole city, right? Also, take that thing off your fucking head No school, sir Yeah, that's pinnoby. Yeah, okay. That's who we're looking for. I remember Wait, hang on. Are they saying she did this and not the other guys like they didn't want the bounty off for some reason She keeps doing all this shit that they don't want her to do Yeah, and they only just found out about the bounty Yeah, because of fucking stupid No noise from that They let her keep the robot. Good. I let your parents know you're safe We'll be back in the palace back to normal She's not safe. She's definitely not safe Like you say I have her at this location, but like we have everyone looking for us Oh, and also you've kind of Fucked it up in terms of now They've got it confirmed that he and this girl Have been connected. So bail organa and his family should be under close scrutiny from now on If not captured and and tried for treason at this stage, yeah What is that? Why is there a picture of you? Because they're trying to find us. That's what you were hiding. You're the reason I'm here They took me to get to you here. What? Wow? That's an inference and a half How do I know you're not the real kidnapper you have to trust me? Your father is a very old friend. I don't believe you mind controller. Fuck it You're not you're not serious. You're not fucking you're not serious Oh my god, you are not serious You can't we're not doing this again. Why would he bust you out of there and hide from how did you fall behind so far? She was right there. Your shit will be won. Oh my god I can't believe this This isn't this. I swear to god if this leads I've never hated a child so much if this leads somewhere significant I'm gonna be so upset because it will this is Grab her wait Oh, shit. Well now you're fucked Yeah, thanks layer. Yeah, good job Grab her Hey, why would you just pick her up you fuck How did she get this far away? What is that? What? Uh, this is where we know what's happening The float creature is in the lineup. How are you this far behind? We're right next to her. What is happening? Oh my god, why are they making me hate layer It's not often. I hate a child as much as this She's ruining everything and she's making obi one look like a fucking idiot pick her up with a fucking Is this what people really wanted to see this annoying little brat god, why is he even here? use How did you miss again and again and again? Oh, what a one of the odds? How's she gonna get over there? Oh use your helicopter blade. Oh look, it's a t-rex To those Uh, wait, what? What are we doing? What is this? It's fucking matrix matrix. Yeah, it's crouching tiger hidden dragon Finally my favorite movie cat when we're 2004 gets more appreciation. Yeah, do you see how he's getting shot? This is unreal. Yeah, we've actually managed to get plot armor now when he doesn't need it because he's a Jedi I mean, you can't make that By the way They already know that he is jedi. Use your fucking lightsaber. It's already over. No reason not to at this point Oh, wow, he's here too Everyone's here. Everyone's just here Of course, is he gonna catch her with the force? Oh, okay, this lady's funny. I What No t-rex, no Man, you gotta kill both of them so long ago. Why does Obi-Wan not realize he has the force unless Oh, that looks so bad Oh, yeah, you can't that looks stupid as fuck. It does look so bad. Oh, let go Use your other arm. Why is he using the force? Can you not use the force? Roll credits I guess because he hasn't used the force a long time or is that how it works? Can you unlearn the force? He got he got de-forced and so now he's got it back Oh, that's why that's why she asked him to make a float for this payoff. That's yay So now that's proof. He's a jedi, but I Man, okay, but we did the other one stop shooting him while he wasn't looking Wow looking at little jedi girl There were two people shooting you. What's going on with those guys? You I mean you don't even need that. He's trying to help you this whole time He could have he could have given her loads of information about her dad to be like He could have tried so many things. Also, I busted you out of the people. He could have run faster as well Yeah, I guess an option just run a little bit faster They showed us all of that inquisitor lady trying to catch up to just not have that go anywhere for nothing Yeah, maybe there was a fight scene or something and they cut it It feels like something got cut there. Yeah for sure because we didn't even see what happened to the the grifter guy either Yeah, oh Listen carefully. You need another exit. It's a cargo port. It's fully automated go to transport it What are you talking about? It'll take you to mafuso. They'll be waiting. Who'll be waiting? I'm trying to make amends I got that why and I'm gonna do the thing. But why why would you flip like this? I'm something when it's insanely dangerous for you to help him All you know about obi one is that he busted your Man operation essentially every person they're also just You can see them, you know, everyone obi one meets and every item he gets relating to them is just really handy She's still doing a big run So they killed the people that she hired fuck. She's in so much goddamn trouble Oh, yeah, I can't wait to play as I can't play to play as her in a video game Finally we meet And marja estre you found me. Why would you do this? He's got a gun like Why yeah, she this character would have killed this guy already Why did you do this? Yeah, that was a really bad move, dude Why he was holding a gun that entire time. She don't force torture like kylo Why didn't you do this with uh, oh and you didn't have it back then Yeah, she's just she's just pulled obi one's location out of this guy's head all because he just turned up for no reason at all Wow Oh, okay, shitty writing right there. Jesus Christ cargo. We must be careful This is a cargo port. It's not meant for people Then they won't look for us here. Well, not unless it's a setup. Yeah, which is very likely to be honest with you Since I met you I've been chased shot at I almost fell to my death That's all your fault. Yeah, you jumped off a building you retard if somebody is offering us help I think we should take it now. Come on. I think you need to shut the fuck up already. Yeah, exactly He was offering you help and you didn't take it think you just remind me of someone No, you who jar jar Was your friend a jedi too He was once all my friends were jedi. No, she was a leader. I yeah, it's talking about padme Wait, when does Padme do like a we should accept help from those who offer it? Why did you flourish like that? What are you doing I can feel you What is this? Um, we're gonna get you Why don't you just run? Yeah, he could literally have ran with her to the gym, but oh well fear betrays you Yeah, I feel like you could have just ran. She's funny. How many lightsaber on reveals where you are coming up, right? Yeah, like she's literally lost. She doesn't know where he is Look who's already over there. Yeah, you walked past the thing It'd be so funny if he actually wasn't here, you know, yeah, they literally left and she's just like I'm surprised you wouldn't know vader should be pretty public at this point. Vader should be pretty well known Yeah, yeah, bail would know and they're in contact if they expect them to know who the inquisitors are on tattooing Surely they'd know vader Deliver you to him I can stand the reek of your ambition no longer. Really? Obi-Wan is a meter away from you. Yeah Yeah Fuck's sake. Holy crap What the fuck? Oh, okay What so you were in so much magic you are you are you're finished Yeah, just could one of the grand inquisitors I'm gonna be so mad. Oh, they will. I hate everyone. What is this? I will find the energy doesn't it? Yep Plown woman This episode is way worse than the first episode. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, so many awful writing choices. God damn Only take away from this is gonna be hey, maybe don't make the children as annoying Yeah, you didn't kill him remember that time you didn't I don't believe this is him finding it out for the first time There's no sense to me. This can't be. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I thought they'd have him in the tub in episode two I had a feeling have him in the tub Hey, hey, how you doing? God damn what? This sucks that was so bad. That was awful We had shaky ground and we just fucking blew it up. Yeah, that was So much that was horribly bad and man, they are rushing too Already done with the mercenary group that kidnapped Leia. That's done. That's out And I think that indicates to me sort of what this show will be like, which is like the other shows But maybe a little more serialized Unfortunately, I'm almost certain that Vader and Kenobi will meet next episode now, isn't it? They probably absolutely don't mean the next episode. Yeah, that's they have to there's not space for them to have three jewels if they don't Right, I but but here's I can see it being like this They meet in episode three at like the end they fight in episode four Then we have one episode break in five and then they fight again in episode six Because I presume now we're sending him on a plot that may lead him to like the rebellion maybe or I don't know But all that was lucky as fuck. Oh, yeah, everything everything that's That like good thing that that lady just gave him a free drive But like knocks people out and makes their memories float because he didn't have the force, right? But that was part of my problem with that scene is that they should be killing him because how dangerous he is It was so video game plot. He was given his quest item by the npc. He spoke to you Yeah He approached it. He approached it like it was a video game He arrived in his new location and started speaking to npcs and you're like, oh, you're interactable I guess you'll give me the nation on my quest. This is the problem There was no useless information on or no useless interaction all of it was purposeful And it's just like you didn't have a single npc. Just say hello Good morning Simple as that looking back it didn't matter that it was a forget me drug like that didn't matter at all It was more so just a knock me out. I thought that was like some semblance of a payoff where because the payoff is That he uses that and they're still they're hazy on things or you set it up that it's like a forget me drug And and she said something like don't take it all at once though, you know, like that kind of thing Which sets up that he uses all of it against them. They have like amnesia for a while And she's like, oh, where's kenobi? And he's like, where's who? Who are you? Where am I? Which I think that's the in a format would make sense if because like this thing him being obi-wan kenobi And him being after her is big info because they have no leads on obi-wan kenobi But now they do and these these aren't these are big ripples We know that obi-wan kenobi Is rescuing leia just like half a day if not hours after she was initially kidnapped Meaning he must have been alerted to it by bail which means bail must have direct connection to him Which means leia's screwed now the whole family is And if beta gets anywhere near like any of this it's just it's like, oh, you're ruining everything You got so close to it and then it took like nine extra years You know what? I actually think it should be possible to be like when did he arrive on this planet? It's like it would have been with this time frame Where did these ships come from and if they got like an actual passenger sort of directory There's manifest for all ships. Yeah, they find out he's from tata ween. It's fucked. It's all fucked That's why because if you're like tata ween, oh man, oh and like You know, yeah, that would be the first one that would come to oh man They don't I wonder if they like fully appreciate the the the challenges that you need to navigate when it comes to telling a story like this You have to be able to reasonably have the status quo is Luke basically lived uh completely unknown In terms of like his you know that he was the exes anakin's son And he lived his whole life unknown undiscovered. There was no connection at all and seemingly Obi-Wan had nothing going on either But like now I don't know how easy it is to get back to that status quo Yeah, we gotta go this this show has to end with van being back on tata ween Everything being chill and his connection with luke actually being established because he needs to actually be chill with him for a new hope to All make sense get him back there at this point. That's gonna be hard That's gonna be very hard. I don't I think I think that they've totally forgotten about that because the impression I get is that we're probably gonna Get an explanation of how like the beginning of leia's path to where she is in a new hope That seems to be what they're doing here. I can't believe she's run off again. It's just it's wow Yeah, I mean like I She's bound and placed in a fucking prison by all these creepy scary guys She's released from it and is aware that this guy is fought to get her out of there And then she's like, you know what pretty sure you're my kidnapper. She's like, oh, wow I saw your face on like a thing a transponder Guy literally has you freed I'm walking freely like with the capacity to actually escape and a guy who keeps telling you about Your father having sent him like what yeah, you you can't simultaneously have leia be smarter than Expected given a rage but also have her be stupid so that the plot incredibly stupid Can't do both of these things. It's it's really annoying It's like it's almost like she's only here because it's like a conflict because she doesn't understand some things And now look she's gonna run off and everyone can't catch up and then that's gonna mean we have an action scene Intention and then it will lead us to rc. He can use the force again Look, what's it like a meter behind her and suddenly it's the it's the mean where he keeps catching up to her But then as soon as we cut he's really far behind when you when you play it from there He just waits for a second so she can go away for a bit and it's like, oh no after good And then she starts climbing the ladder and then he's nowhere to be seen and then five seconds later Oh, there she is. Like how are you with an arms reach only to then be like miles away? Yeah, I like how he how he points the laser right at her as well. Oh, yeah, he does Yeah, he And so yeah, it's uh, it's established then up to this point. He had no use of the force Um, which seems arbitrary as far as i'm concerned. I I don't know But that's a Is that what they're establishing with that? Yeah, up to now. He wasn't using the force at all. He wasn't able to because he had lost Something that a component that would facilitate that. I don't know The sports bikes were clogged Well, because remember luke is like that in tlj, right? Yeah. Hey, so, you know, at least that being consist And well, the problem is that I need better reasoning. It's like why am I supposed to infer that he's because he's he's sad Or was it to hide from the from inquisitors so they can't sense the force on you? That doesn't matter because you have a face That's yours So when yeah, like that's kind of what we were looking for was clever uses of the force in order to hide the fact that you Have it but also utilize it like instead. They were just like now. He just doesn't have it Oh now he does and they make sure to show you that his first act with the force is seen by everyone And they were like, whoa Let's see how that the screenshots are made. So if you look the first one without any arrows It's like, oh so She fell down Obi-Wan grabs her and then he just appears downstairs So I don't even know where he went down. Like I don't see anything to go down except all the way back Where the robot guy is And then he should have parkour down like that clown lady does Yeah, the back flips and shit If you look at the arrows, Obi-Wan should be dead as shit because he was just chilling there trying to grab her with the force Well because he shot Yeah, and this guy like Yeah, because that guy's still alive now Yeah, the red one is like, okay. Maybe this thing is upstairs like, okay Then just go two steps to to to his right and then you can see him I was just he shot the t-rex But like the green eyed robot was still there and he just like and then like he He stopped shooting him. He let him go down Fine layer run to the starport and then he caught up. What was he doing? I don't know Oh, well, uh, Fringe, I can explain that he was out of shot Yes, he was out of shot. There wasn't a lot of that in this show It's funny because the plot armor of not getting hit Because where the green eyed robot thing is this looks like the only way down into a building where you couldn't go down Where I guess Obi-Wan had to go through to get down. Maybe about that robot. He's killed like Five meters away from this whole bustling area Nobody cares about a giant and the it's not even just the sound of it It's the sparking explosion of fireworks of a robot being blown up right in front of three stormtroopers and none of them care Four stormtroopers actually this inquisitor lady as well. How was she not finished? Like how was she not in so much trouble? I imagine she's just permanently going road now or or will she claim Obi-Wan did that? But now she's gonna get so now she's gonna get hunted down by the inquisitor What is that? Maybe is that it for that inquisitor? Do you think or is he gonna come back? I think that's it for him because that's Rupert friend, right? Like what are the higher billing people? Oh, I thought that was his name in universe and I was like, oh In universe, he is the grand inquisitor law like the grand. So he's the main one the grad wizard Maybe they're gonna make up a Mandalorian rules like oh you killed the biggest one now. You are the biggest one Here's your job Saber How do you maintain a level of order in your own system if you just reward people for cooling? It's so bad I could I could imagine that the thing they're trying to do is that she's going to I don't know. Maybe this would actually be too smart for them if they if she says Oh, yeah, Obi-Wan was here and she and he killed the grand inquisitor and that's proof that I was on the His trail and we need to find him But then I guess the question would be so he killed him like what what about you what happened with you also like We're gonna use mine to find out if that's true Well, the other two would know because it would be so easy to be like, uh, he was really mad with you Like because of the stuff that you sent out or are they just not anyone to go get you and he got stabbed It looks like yeah, it's you've broken all of the rules recently and nothing's happening. It's kind of weird There's no reason to believe Oh, man, oh shit. The first one wasn't like good or anything. It was fine. I guess I feel like it's a bit below fine It was But below fine is not I don't know that's incredible for disney. That's incredible for disney I think I'd like you have like a four and I would happily watch an entire show of it, right? If we got to the end I'd be like, yeah, you know, I I don't know if I'd happily watch that but like I guess I wouldn't be as annoyed if we got to the end of that. I'd be like fine. Sure Rather now now it's like just nervous like really nervous Well, yeah, because everyone everyone's incompetence assassination portion of him has been pretty high up so many Yeah, that's the one that they they can't even stop themselves from assassinating characters in terms of their incompetence Because they don't know how to write them intelligently anymore But this is really bad this whole episode unfortunately pretty standard bad writing lots of it everywhere You can't escape But I'm thinking from from the perspective of the high inquisitor You have these guys who got an order from an inquisitor and then they did it and it's not their fault I don't I don't even know why you would kill them out of like frustration or to send a message They just they did what an inquisitor told them to do. Why are you upset? What are people happy about the grand inquisitor just getting yeeted like that? Surely not because when the trailer came out people were like, oh, it's a guy. Oh my gosh. I'm not well People still thought he looked stupid. He's in the the animated shows, right? I think so yeah. Oh, wow. This is his end that that sucks. They've done that before He's in rebels. I think he's in rebels which comes after this rebels is after this Oh, so like he's not dead then Maybe not even though he got He but it but then again, he might be who knows what I guess I mean Darth Maul survived He did that's true So everything's on the table. Fuck it He's gonna go to a mod parlor on tattooing and get a new stomach or in a new spleen I can't wait for a count you to come back With a robot with robot hands and a robot head I what if it's both? What if there are no two versions of duke who one Any he renamed himself count duke two There we go the show make it happen. Oh christopher lee is unfortunately no longer with us And I dare not have disney use the horrors of cgi to bring They're going to use a mix of rco first using cgi to bring back christopher lee They'll well they'll do that that stupid shit they did with luke in the boba fat show Where they'll use the computer. Yes That will suck balls It looked so goofy it really was like crouching tiger hidden dragon, but worse I knew we knew they would ruin Kenobi we knew they would because they can't help themselves. They're disney. They're just shit But wow the amount of it's just like this this Kenobi that we see it's just not the same guy And so I just don't care The reason why Obi-Wan escaped is because of the granted quiz and a right which he was about to find him was like Hey stop it Fucking idiot episode two everyone. Yeah episode poo. That was the last one, right? We're done. No forever No, we're not. Yeah. No, that was the end of the Kenobi series It's been resolved I have chased after kids who don't believe that I am Obi-Wan Kenobi Your father is a very old friend. I don't believe you I am, I am Obi-Wan Kenobi I say run away. Mommy. It's not him at all So here we are episode four It's always such a pleasure. All right. Yeah, three. Not even that bad. Don't jump a gun Idiot. I haven't got a gun. Fuck the dollar. Wait, I do. I have many guns. I have a gun next to me right now. What does that even mean jumping a gun? Don't jump it. I think a gun would be pretty easy to jump Yeah Put it on the floor. I'm just saying the gun isn't loaded. I think I can jump it even if it was a little bit I feel my friend. You should believe in me for me. I think I can do it. I'm the same. Be careful That's all. It does not apply to just anything that I'm doing. What's so dangerous about jumping a gun? I'm the same. Be careful. It's like a threat. I don't know. Yeah, I'm starting to think you're you're evil You're the doxide. Oh wow Yeah It becomes so obvious Uh, so yeah, you know all of you out there listening probably like whoo-hoo another episode of this awesome show And we're like, oh no, I'd rather kill myself No, but here we are we have criticism to discuss and just some clarification Oh boy, because when you edit these things You're like, oh wow We didn't even talk about this thing because we're we're too busy talking about another thing And so just some stuff that I was curious to to talk to you guys about you know before we start this one Whatever is coming. So we kind of went over it, but it was just to clarify right like the whole Force mental grabby flumes. I actually saw some people discussing this and they were like vader used it on luke in Return of the Jedi So it was the ot that established force mind grab feelings thing and I was like, oh, yeah, technically that does happen when luke is like He's he's trying to hide from vader if you guys remember Return of the Jedi and vader's all Um, oh, well, um, but he yeah, it's he pulls his sister from his thoughts your thoughts betray you Your feelings for them are strong especially for Sister Which is like see so they can do it and I was just like I feel like that these these were presented in very different Dynamics, I think it helps pretend of the Jedi that vader and luke have been around each other for a decent amount of time At that point so that you know, he's just trying to to Happen to whatever he's got there, which seems to me like an extension Detecting people in general who have like Force flumes or at least people you care about a lot, you know, there's a couple of things are kind of hard to define But force awakens when as far as basically just saying it is a a move you can do and you will pull out specific information Ah Luke has a sister that he cares about I think is a lot more vague than the location of the plans to The whatever it was the the map to luke skywalker and bb8 He's like he knows exactly what that is. Um, and then this of course has a pull out Exactly where kenobi is or has been sent from the guy who's so very fucking kindly offered his mind to either If we throw out the criticism then the vader should have used it on laia when he met her in in a new hope Which I still think is valid but fine if we throw that out It still destroys this show being the reaver should have been using this Well, all the inquisitors should have been using this on like everybody doesn't make any sense anymore at all What have been really useful and fuck it with dead, you know, oh, wouldn't it be dead? It feels like an extension of the same power right in terms of um, if it is the same power It feels like oh, you're just doing it much better than vader do it So if we just accept that reaver is much better than vader, then yeah, great. Yeah, right Fine fine. I mean on those little top trump cards I think ray is considered way more powerful than luke and vader. So, you know, I mean, yeah I've seen the films reaver reaver ray. It's all It's our words when they start with the skywalker. No, no, don't say the hour Not the not the hard hours right hard. No So you guys remember what scares off laia in this really stupid scene where she escapes kanobi Do you remember what it was? Yeah guys bounty hunters He's seen his bounty then bumps right into kanobi really dumb But when he's down his thing just activates for no reason at all Why is there a picture of you? And then for some reason obi one because he's very canonically a very unintelligent character Can't think of any way to rationalize that to laia and so laia concludes She literally says and I can't believe this. I really didn't take this in the first time She says you were hiding. You're the reason I'm here. They took me to get to you And I was like how the fuck did she figure that out like from him being a bounty for some for people Especially when he's just counter kidnapped a princess you things like that's good enough reason alone to have an bounty It established on him He's gonna have pissed off loads of people but he doesn't try to explain anything in any way She just says that and and and the crazy thing is she's right That is what's happening But there's just no way she could possibly know that and then of course that's enough reason for her to run away When it's like wait a minute. Why would that make you want to run away? He still seems to be trying to rescue you if you're in the same boat if they find you if you are correct And he is getting captured or they're using you to get to him You still want to be with him because otherwise you'd be in a prison again Yeah, I don't very selective childhood stupidness. Well, so that's what the conversations become building. Yeah about laia That I've seen in some threads where it's like people can't handle that He's an intelligent character. She always has been and it's like but she's not though. Yeah, she's ten So let's um the fucking I think I saw I think I saw a thread where where someone said that's quote unquote canonically She got like her phd at 19. There was a senator Which is different than being ten. I know I know I'm just no it's not different being smart It's annoying is because the character is simultaneously smart and stupid when the plot needs her to be Would we be happy would we be happy if any like really smart character reached that conclusion that quickly because I don't think we would It's not even about being smart. She gets it from nothing There's no way she can conclude what she concludes through critical thinking because she hasn't got the components she needs The writer knows that that's why um Exactly. She knows So wouldn't this make sense if like, uh, she's read the script. Yes classical And yeah, so that's that's that's what I mean The discussion is about is she in character and a lot of people are like, yes, she is she was always clever And the response is just like she ain't clever So you can't even use that but he's only as clever as she needs to be to make things happen So yeah, it's really clever when she jumped off the fucking building I don't know how in character someone needs to be like as a child like there is there are going to be Exactly. I agree. Oh, I would different people. Here's this fucking flat out different people They made it really bratty. Um, I don't think they realized Leia was a lot of fun and she would snap back at people who were uh Treating her as though she wouldn't be able to hold her own sort of thing. Governor talk I should have expected to find you holding beta's leash A little short for stormtroopers You came in here didn't you have a plan for getting out? I take orders from just one person me so wonder you're still alive Like it's not a matter of just you know, if you remember there's this part where um, he says You know, we're gonna our story is that we're from this planet. You're my daughter and then she's like And like it drives me nuts watching it So I'm just like so she really doesn't grasp that she's been kidnapped from her family led to a different planet They are currently under watch from like everybody in this city and they could be shot at any moment And you might be like, oh, it's just a little bit of levity. It's just like no, no It's just out of character. You should be terrified. She's a 10 year old levity is the only funny when it's in character It feels like sometimes something can be funny just because it's really in character And you're like, hey, that is what they well, I guess my point is you can find it funny But it's annoying me because it's not how she should be behaving. I guess yeah, she's not lay us not a bitch I don't find it funny because it's out of character. I don't find it funny because it's it's just yeah It's weird coming from this creature Crips are always way funnier if you understand the character and like how the character arrived at saying it Like if you if it is a believably a thing that that person would say when they feel artificial and fake It drains the comedy appeal that they might have and part of what pisses me off about it Is that it undermines kanobi's journey here? Like he's sacrificing mostly every piece of safety he has and his coverage of the boy He needs to take care of in order to have like to have witty comebacks from this annoying girl That he's trying to sacrifice everything for It really fucks with me like he's like, you know, daughter and father from this planet If anyone asks we're hiding and then she's like you're old Okay, like all right then I'm telling you man. Yeah, like you guys know about it, but um This thing's referenced a lot and when I'm talking to the the fnt guys, but when they were doing the witcher season two The the horse roaches dies as a scene for that and apparently the writer wanted it to have some jokes in it And henry cavill said no, huh good on henry good Apparently that seems like not terrible So it's like oh, that's nice and you henry in a sense. I'm seeing you're like, oh man, because oh Ewan McGregor is executive producer And I'm pretty sure you'll defend the shit out of every choice made for writing on this I'm just like, that's a shame, but you go ahead. Yeah, I wanted to try my own character. Hell yeah, let's go well The only other thing I wanted to talk about was and this is just gonna stretch everyone's knowledge of the ot including myself, um Anakin Skywalker Darth Vader, would you have guessed that was public knowledge or not from the ot not no I would have thought not the problem is I don't think I have anything in stone to argue that I would have just assumed right I'm trying to think of all the references because you know that tarkin knows that Vader is a remnant of the jedi doesn't ever refer to him as anakin not that he has well He he would probably think that of palpatine, but he'd never say it to his face Maybe yeah, you could be right That the sith must be a corruption of the jedi and tarkin would be familiar with the jedi for how old he is I would have assumed that it would be one of those known secrets Those things that like most people or at least a lot of people assumed to be true But there is no confirmation of it and it's kind of kept sort of hush Your father was seduced by the dark side of the force He ceased to be anakin skywalker and became Darth Vader When that happened the good man who was your father was destroyed I've accepted the truth that you were once anakin skywalker my father that name no longer has any meaning for me It is the name of your true self. You've only forgotten We're gonna probably get a flashback to explain how reaver knows and so if that's that then I guess Because this is the the thing that we we we covered it We were just like how in the fuck would she know a nobie one doesn't how have we gotten to this point where He's the one that delivers that information to him I guess because it really was a completely hidden secret Except she knew because of something that's gonna have happened when we get another flashback Presumably at some point with the order 66 shit. I don't know because he would know that Darth Vader is still around Surely surely like And he knew that anakin was he knew that didn't he because he watched the footage he knew anakin was um The emperor's right hand man, but he thought he was dead. But the only question I have is in that recording Doesn't he say to him is lord vader That is I thought that was a recording when he's like you shall henceforth be known as Darth Vader like I thought he knew this That's that's everyone's not in that scene. He's he's bowing to Yeah, but he doesn't say you shall henceforth be known as the vader when oh Yeah, right, right, right because he's I think he's just well done lord vader, which is enough That's enough. Well, and also even if you didn't have that it's like man Who is this like mysterious incredibly powerful force user who it's like because Darth Vader would be known As an entity surely like just his job to be known That's a point. No. Well, what I mean is or Darth Vader the figure is would be known in the galaxy Oh, yeah, or be one would have enough information to know that Darth Vader is anakin Like I I don't think it would be a surprise to him that he's alive. I always I always so I'm looking to go further than inference. And yeah, I just checked the script It can't be Lord vader go and bring peace to the empire I can't watch anymore. Sorry. Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan heard that. So, yeah, like I will not kill anakin Twisted by the dark side young skywalker has become the boy you've trained gone. He is consumed By Darth Vader. You know what that means to accept in this show is that he's never heard of Darth Vader Which is absurd. No way. No way. He doesn't know. Well, it's impossible I'm not even I'm not even say it's a contrivance impossible the bail organa did not tell obi-wan about any of this Yeah, bails on the senate. He knows about vader alternatively that if he hadn't heard it from bail that he wouldn't have just heard it Anyway, like that's what I'm saying about how it's an impossibility Otherwise, we have to believe that he just never heard and I guess they get no news out there And nobody talks about anything. Yes. He must have been living under a rock Oh Oh, yeah I'm pretty sure this can't work as a reveal. Um, well to be fair like if someone said to me We're gonna I don't even like the way it was revealed the fact that reaver shouts it at obi-wan. He didn't know that's lame He's alive obi-wan Yeah, actually, yeah, anakin skywalker is alive Yeah, because I was about to say I didn't know Where are you? This is a great reveal Revealio That's the harry potter thing probably. I'm gonna stab a guy and it's not you. That's that's the spell that makes someone's Pants fall down. I have seen loads of people arguing over whether or not the grand inquisitive is quite funny. Nobody knows That's hilarious. That's because now and yeah, well because he appears after this in rebels You're not going near it I believe I am which is definitely that's just the writing now. It's Oh, we saw someone get stabbed straight through the chest with a lightsaber and fall to the ground And we're just like, well, we don't even know if he's dead We have no idea what the stakes are when it comes to life and death anymore I saw someone defending this decision with hey people Like as in like hey people people are complaining that he has to be a life of rebels But this is star wars people survive getting sliced in half I'm helping survive getting blown up. I'm sure De-adam is fucking stupid. I was like, oh, you're you're you're speaking positively. They are. Yeah Great Anyway, um, there are no stakes I imagine when we record for episode four That'll be the longest one because I'll have even more clarifications I want to go through and we'll have a first shot common showcase in a while Oh In fact, um, this is a comment that I saw not from uh many of our videos But from the comment section under I think it was real bbc and I was like, you know what? I wouldn't mind reading this out. This is pretty funny. This is how it goes Reaver I need a kidnapped layer to draw out kanobi because of an off-screen Super tenuous connection that bail has with this fugitive jedi that I'll use in the hope It draws him out all of this relies on the idea that bail knows where kanobi is can contact him and kanobi will respond Also, reaver can force suck information out of people and never thinks to apply this power to bail Organa obi one has no idea anakin is alive has no idea veda is anakin doesn't know anything completely lost Also kanobi is an open communication with bail organa for important things bail organa. Oops. Sorry. Yeah, what's happening? Sorry, the plot. That's just a disney plot Also kanobi is an open communication with bail organa for important things bail organa Who is according to disney's own canon at this point the leader of the rebel alliance and knows about darth veda The leader of the rebel alliance who is by the way regularly working With sorry, there's in two pieces I now forgive you with an actual black ops jedi named asoka tano who could totally track down laia kill the kidnappers Who has a live-action counterpart, but he doesn't mention her at all But I don't know maybe obi one would like to know his brother's former apprentice survives 66 and maybe that would be something organa would share but no obi one knows nothing because why would he fuck this show is broken Um, yeah, so it's getting to the point when I read this I was like man I'm not even able to keep track of how many things are breaking because there's just so many things happening at once in this timeline Like asoka tano, she's not going to be mentioned at all. No, she won't pop up even though she was his apprentice Canonically, yeah, we want professor. You know, she exists unless they decide he does Well, everyone must know that she exists Not until they decide he does I think it's like at this point because I remember it was like wait Where does all of this fit in the timeline who is around who's active now? Like what organizations are or and where are they like it's it was like they don't remember their own timeline at this stage It's unreal to me We know the point because normally we talk about oh, they just do the things and then whatever comes after me That's for the other ones to figure out But now we start in between things and they don't figure out anything that comes after or before Or in between or in their own show. They just it's like oh, we're just gonna do stuff. It's like They legitimately forget people who would have to be around at this point And who would be relevant to the storyline and they invent brand new people that we've never seen or heard of before They desperately hope they can get rid of them and their impact on the story before it gets to the timeline We're familiar with where they don't have any impact. It's like the book of a shanti or vis shanti It doesn't even matter a book of the magic good book Introduce it get rid of it and the same thing despite its impact on the multiverses and Introduce it get rid of it close that loop. So, um, yeah, I just find it hilarious There's all these different reasons for why everything's fucked and we've got more and remember This is the same thing that happens with every Disney show. It'll get worse as we go always does Even if there's no canon surrounding this no prequels no ot know anything else. This show is already deteriorating completely It didn't have to be this drawn out and complicated and cringe, you know, it's it This couldn't they must have batted around a bunch of ideas, but they settled for this for some god for Yeah, I guess maybe this it literally was just some it's just somebody's random idea that they just had and they went with it Should we discuss other ideas? No, this is perfect. What are you talking about? It might be that it's like the whole like, um, committee thing is like that there are loads of people pushing for certain things And they're trying to figure out or give them all their way or something like that, you know We don't know what fucking frankenstein process they used to make these You know what people want to see a 10 year old leia. Yeah, not make her a bitch Anyway, you guys want to start it up. No, let's do it. Yeah. No, not particularly. All right. No, none of us are on board Three two one Oh, no, wait now. I've got to go back. Yeah, I was ready. All righty then three two one Go I'm gonna miss the grinding quiz that he was fun. Apparently that lady who gave him the drugs is is uh, you and the gregs You're in the grind It's real life taught it. Oh, okay. That's neat. Yeah remember Imagine if we hadn't Didn't have those silly outfits and they like purposefully blended into crowds and things and you didn't know it was them So they were hunting you down, but they looked just like normal people I'm still baffled that they have a character that's connected to the ot on the prequels an actor Who's more than willing and ready and they didn't make movies out of him. I think this is basically confirmation that Um, show is more profitable for them now I think they're waiting a lot more into shows now. I wonder if we'll be seeing any more movies Uh, yeah, we are. I'll tackle what's he needs next up. All right Bum bum bum I'm because of the pacing they'll be fighting with each other long before this episode's even over probably Probably will be like the third act. Oh, do you think Darth Vader will take his helmet off? No, they're not loud, okay, this is a little bit worried not gonna lie because Yeah, I'm I'm I'm weird unlike you guys. I like Vader a lot Okay, Darth Vader's really fucking cool. And I don't like it was yet. Why not? It's just uh, it's just not preferable, you know They'll have you considered liking it You're a children. Damn, correct. All right, we're off to a good start. Nothing makes nothing no sense yet No, good floor. They haven't screwed up before Okay, no, but like, okay, if someone who knows about floors, is there anything wrong with this floor? Well, so something I would say is if he's kneeling on this with his knees, it's probably gonna hurt with all of the Probably he's probably actually doing that though. Yeah, sure. I'm just saying it would probably hurt a little bit He's using the tank side by kneeling on this floor. Qui-gon is definitely gonna show up in this It'll be really funny if he doesn't Is that Chewbacca? Oh, oh, it's Reaver He screamed no Oh, that was Yoda you don't need the flashback if the first scene is like, hey, remember last episode Who is me? There he is not so much potential We're not gonna get it We're not gonna get a show that focuses on the character of him learning to overcome any sense of guilt that he has and Moving forward with his life. People will claim that's what this show does Yeah, yeah, they will claim that look at they claimed about Boba Fett That's about as much as they could possibly do and you know they wanted more without the helmet on I don't think they should have showed his face. They really shouldn't have Well, dude, uh, if people watch this chronologically getting his face reveal is is crazy important in the ot and now it's like By the way, well, I think that they don't make these at this point thinking that people will watch chronologically No, they're fully aware of the matter. Oh boy. Mustafar. Mustafar Wait, so did he build a temple on the planet where he melted? We knew this we knew this this is something that they established back in rise of skywalk. I think it's a nice CGI temple He got a land inquisitor means nothing Kenobi is all that matters now. Is that understood? Is he? Is that James? I have been watching you. Yeah, that's James. Yeah, that's like a The problem is I'm trying to figure it out because it's like his voice is so different now prove yourself and the position of grand inquisitor Is yours? Yeah, they don't care about you like I cared about him. Didn't one of us say she would end up getting They're gonna make up a Mandalorian rules like oh you killed the biggest one now. You are the biggest one He'll stab you in the face. Well, she'll be killed before then anyway Sorry, when was it established that he had a castle on the planet where he melson? Well, so this is the thing that could be it could have been that it that was the same thing and extended But i'm pretty sure What a great view the law for rise of skywalker says that one of the waypoint finder things is on Mustafar because it's Vader's temple. That's like what it says I guess I'm wondering like in like wider media for ages, but I don't know if it's great I think it's pretty cringe whoever came up with it. Well, I just find it funny that you would build a temple on the planet where like Melton, you know It's a weird thing to do, but you know, what do you ever want to be there? Well, people would say like it's a sith thing to focus on his pain and anguish So I think it's safe to say that we're going to get that helmet off pretty quick then. Why would you credit? Hayden christianson's being back if it's going to be Prequel flashbacks maybe they will yeah, they could also have obi-wan like have visions or something Maybe But I think they're going to take him the helmet off actually you fixed great. You fixed the little robot. Yay No, thank goodness more toys. Yeah, thank goodness also has a little They're bonding now whereas they went before Okay, cool. I like this little thing about the light Have you ever been afraid of the dark? How does it feel when you turn on the light? It feels safe. Yes, it feels like that. That was that was all right. We're on approach No, we're on a ship obi-wan. I I sometimes I wonder I wonder how long they were on their way here This was just to get them off the planet, right? They don't really know. Yeah, I don't know where they're going. I don't think yeah, just go here and talk to Lumber con or something Welcome to planet dead jedi This is a mining planet. Look at all those mining hills. There's no road down there. Why would the why would you land here? There is no ride there. You're right. I guess you'll fly down. Maybe they get on another ship Yeah, everyone gets a complimentary parachute. Oh, look. It's monster great a great equipped robot Wow It was a lot smaller than I thought it was. Yeah, I thought that ship was a lot bigger than uh, that Yeah, I guess they're Good. Yeah, you know what good behaviors though. You don't want to be seen by people. I would prefer that Yeah, yeah, it's refreshing compared to the last episode. Oh, well, that's Yeah, I'm sure they'll be dead in no time. Oh, they're walking there. I guess they just walk back and they'll be there Do you guys have food and water they have a coordinates say the meeting point is further north That is if our new friend was telling the truth. Why would he lie people are not all good layer What why would he lie? Why are you angry? She's asking you because you have no reason to think he's lying. He doesn't lie so far Was that supposed to be like him tapping into his feelings about anakin or something? No, I think it was a bit over the top. No, it was like this here There were fields and families and then the empire came in and ravaged it all Why did anyone ever support the empire? We're never going to get that We're never going to get that they paid lip service to that in mando And they didn't have the balls to even begin to actually talk about that Why would the empire ravage a planet though? Like yeah, like don't they want to make money from it and support it? Do they mind it? Is that the idea? Who dad? Oh, there you go. It's Hayden christiansman. He's spooky He's a spooky ghost. There you go visions You just hear a distant You're not calling him mr. Kenobi. Yes. No seems like the thing where you call him mr. Kenobi Is I can I just call me Ben, but they just skip that It's so sinister god's butt blood. Did you build like normal buildings? No Oh, hello. Yeah, why not? Let's see more of what she's up to anyone going to be upset your step That other grinding quiz at all. No, it's just lying there in the planet She can um, she can blame obi one surely. That's how she'd get out of it. Okay. Why did you build a base here? This is ludicrous. Why not rags water is fun. Okay, so when you're a villain You have a choice to build a little base in space in a volcano or underwater, right? Yeah, this is like the evil trope They have to do it. He's in one of the mining systems. You do not know that I trace the manifest we should send out all remaining probes. Oh, you can just do that I assume I assume that you actually can do that yet How do you guys maintain any level of order within your organization if they fight like this all the time? Why aren't you sitting in it then, bitch? I just spoke with lord vader you Spoke to him yourself. He asked me to leave the hunt You know, I don't release you. Oh, I don't believe you man. Could you imagine one of those fishes just decided to swim by like What are you talking about here, buddy? Like what's going on guys? Just imagine obi one swinging swinging by like Send out the probes do it Now she just said oh, I talked to vader. I'm in charge now and they're like, okay How does this military function? Do you not have like orders that you issue out? Like is there an email if you kill the general you become the general we said this Oh, oh, it's like chronicles of ritic Well that you have a lot of probes you should be sending out a lot of these Why wouldn't this just be the first thing you do? They're gonna have to get in the hyperspace, right? You can't just Yeah, they're oh, they're very slow. They're gonna be Maybe You don't talk. This is it. This is where he told us to come to we discussed our backstory literally as we arrived Maybe it was a lie, bro. You just got here. No one is coming here layer Why would you want to look around look we use your eyes give them at least an hour Well, if we're on our own, we're gonna need some help What are you doing? Oh, okay. Yeah, there's nobody's coming. I guess we just know this is true. Nobody's coming No, we have to look around. We have to see if there's like something here So if anybody does show up for there for you guys now five minutes later, you that's just it nice Yeah, I guess we'll just this random local. Okay. Who's this dredge guy? What's up, buddy? This is my friend my father. This is my father ordent. We're farmers from tall. Hey there. I'm freck. Oh, he's so friendly Yeah, he is look at the mull man. Hello. We got a little lost in this field Why are you letting her doing the talking? Yeah, we've got a bit turned around We're looking for the nearest port. We need to get home. Well, I'm going that way jump in. Oh, no, that's all right Thank you. We just need directions On father, we've walked long enough. Thanks freck. Oh, why is she deciding everything? Uh, why are you letting her in? Yes, you don't say no to this child, Obi-Wan. You don't say anything and then like five seconds later He let's her do all the talking. No, no, no, no, no. No You get out of that. Okay. No. Okay. All right. Yeah, right. Cool. All right. Well, if you needed more of a reason But okay, is that supposed to be like he's not empire affiliated. He's just like flying A fan of the empire. Yeah, maybe he's working for them or He's like a fucking empire transport thing. Like what if this is delivering to the empire? Good people now. Tall. They pay their way Listen to the empire. I know that voice. Nice to meet like-minded folk. Nothing wrong with a little order, right? They ravaged your planet. Yeah, they did ravage. That's how you described it Oh, unfortunate. Oh, so they're out in the field. There are this poor right of service in the field Where are they? Oh, it's over. It's over. Oh, we just been a whole day ravaging and boy Are we tired, meeting my new friends. Hey, is that Obi-Wan Kenobi? What the fuck? How would they not be made aware of Surely that he would be the number one target at this point. They must be aware of Obi-Wan Kenobi How could they not be? This show doesn't have the balls to make them like nice and approachable Hi there citizen How are you? Where are you all? No, they'll be evil rags, evil evil What, what? I hope a Jedi out here. I hope we're not in any danger. They didn't tell us what he looked like This is like an episode of Ache. This is a joke. All of these things would be happening as a joke We're looking for possible Jedi in the area. I haven't seen any Jedi. No, we'll find them. We always do He kind of looks like this guy What a fun Jedi. It's weird how you dress exactly how Jedi always dressed Well, don't take this the wrong way, but the reason I stopped you is because you're dressed exactly like a Jedi Like all of them. It's weird how your face looks like the guy that man. We're trying to find that's kind of Oh, well, have you seen any guys who look exactly like you? Every single one of them dressed exactly the way you're dressed now. Look, I'm not a Jedi. Scott, tell me this guy doesn't look like a Jedi Yeah, yeah, he's got the robes. Yeah, yeah, the robes. No, I'm not a minor. She's a minor. They knew that he's got a little girl with him too That's a long story. It's a long way. Yeah, that's true He brought me here to see the place. Oh, thank goodness. You can make up for his feelings. She's not with us anymore It's a very difficult time. I'm sorry to hear that. The Empire is working hard to bring things around I would know when if I saw one. You haven't heard anything. Are you sure he's even on this planet? They know what they're doing, Leia. What? Come on. How incompetent do you want to make him? Are you serious? That was her mother's name. Oh fuck off. What is this? They know that Leia is missing. Like I said It's not been easy. Sometimes when I look at Luma, I see her mother's face. Uh-huh. Do you see how this looks to us, sir? Are you telling me you woke up today and accidentally dressed like a Jedi? Yes See, this is the moment where it's like they've made him incredibly stupid But they make the stormtroopers even stupider in order for the- It's like a contest Hey, you say you're not a Jedi. I have to believe you. I mean there's nothing I can do If you happen to see one, just find one of us and let us know, okay? Well, just keep your eyes open. Reported if you see anything. Of course. Yeah, okay. Yeah, fuck off. Oh my god. Who fucking wrote this shit, man? This is so embarrassing. This is us. Thanks, Frank. Didn't you say it was a long way? There was like two minutes. All over, Frank. We just saw an unraveged field. We got a- Ah, there you go. Yeah, it's a long walk. Ooh, that was close. Good thing we managed to talk our way out of that. I wish I wouldn't be so fucking retarded. Can't believe we got a layer. What a fucking muppet. You know, if there is a rebellion in the future, they're not gonna have any problems at all. I'm gonna be honest. Alright, take care guys. You have a nice day. You have a nice day. The whole time I've known you, you've been hiding something. Oh, shut up. Yeah, you just met and he's a fucking Jedi. This is the most shallow shit. Do you think they mean anything about what they're saying here? Hey, here are my- here are the feelings that I'm supposed to be saying. I wish I could say I was. You knew her. My real mother. Are you my real father? I wish I could say I was, but no, I'm not. Sometimes I try to imagine what he was like. It's really quiet on the back of this thing. Are they suggesting he's hiding the fact that her father is Anakin, or Vader? I assume they're also doing, like, the different parallels to Padme. I swear to God, they better not have that be revealed to her. His Jedi were taken from our families when we were very young. There's still someone that likes the Empire in their vehicle. Flashes with my mother's shawls. Just saying. Well, it's not super- hey, it's not super quiet in the back of this open-topped thing. It's fine. If he's not in frame, he doesn't exist. That's true. That's fine. Fair enough. They are, isn't it crazy that we're on the road and he's like, What does they there, partner? I meant Lola. I meant Loba. Lola, yes. I meant Lorba. I meant Lumber. Oh, a standard inspection. They'll find his lightsaber shortly, right? Well, yeah, then he'd be done. He should be done already, so it doesn't fucking matter, I guess. Remember why he's on this transport? It's just because he refused to say no to later. Well, you refused to wait for his actual contact. The child is getting on. I'd better get on, too. A couple of strays, I found. Oh, shit. He's evil. It doesn't matter. Why are you putting your hood up? At this point, they're going to want to see your face or whatever. I tried the hood earlier. That makes you look more suspicious. Yep. Back to toll. We have family here. We were visiting. All right, step out of the three. How long until this is over? They should have been caught ten times by now. I'm sure these termtrippers will be dead in no time. Oh, yeah, I don't think they're going to be shit. What? Sontra was a never shit. I'd be happy to see Obi-Wan beat some Stormtroopers. Okay, yeah, it's over. There's no fucking way now. Literal probe droid. Probe in probe droid. What a thing up his head. Oh, no. I said, raise your head. Let's do it. Well, delaying it only makes it worse. Oh, he's reaching for a gun. They can see you reaching for that. Yeah. What are they doing? They both would have shot him when he did that, but never mind. It's one on a tower, like all the way up there. It's like a clear shot. Oh, wow. He didn't do it. Wow. I don't feel that tactic to be honest. Holy fuck. Why? That's the most violent thing they've ever shown you. Yeah, I'm not comfortable with him using a meat shield for a guy he did not know. Yeah, I am not okay with that, Obi-Wan. I think that's the only reason that they established he was like pro-empire. Yeah, but Obi-Wan didn't know that. Let the go. Holy shit. What? Did that just happen? That is insanely irresponsible. He could have killed her. You could have easily killed her. Just use the force to stop him pulling the trigger. You filthy cowboy Jesus looking fuck. I don't know, man. Just walk around the hill. How could I walk around it? Shoot them. Shoot them. Shoot again. Shoot more. Shoot them now. You do have a lightsaber, my dude. He killed five. They haven't made him drop the gun. He killed five. This is three. He still has the gun. What is happening? Oh, she's probably going to save them. He's still going to save them. Yeah. What is happening? He's five. I'm the spy. I'm the spy. Man, thanks for not meeting me out there in the field. Well, then again, he could have waited. He could have waited. He literally didn't wait more than a minute. And then she managed to get ahead of all of this to save him. That's incredible. They're destroying the pros. It's not hard. It's one blastable. Mapuso. It's a mining planet. Midrim type two. Okay, thanks. I can't believe this shit, man. All that's so garbage. I'll inform Lord Vader. He's already been informed. He was most appreciative. Okay. He's so funny. Most appreciative. He was most appreciative. Do you ever realize what you're wearing? Do you know you talk like that? Nobody wants to say anything about your hat. But I will. Do you keep things in that hat? It's not raining. It's not raining. All right. So all that was stupid, but at least now this is happening. I was on my way when the probes arrived, but you'd already gone. I hadn't expected anyone to come. Yeah, good job, everyone. I can get you to the port. There's a pilot who's agreed to take you, but he's not scheduled to leave for a few hours. So we need to lay low right here. Scheduled or scheduled in Star Wars? It is scheduled in Star Wars. I mean, she's compromised, right? They would have known that she went out with her. Hickory is done. He's annoying. It's weird that you just have an officer hanging out alone. That's weird. Especially when she's doing suspicious things like looking around. There's Gary and Jeff. Nobody cares about stormtroopers. It doesn't matter. Yeah, they're not people. We'll make it out. They didn't do it. They didn't mean to run away. He's pissed herself. He used to do it all the time. Oh, wow. They're giving it this now. It wasn't your fault. It's weird that this hits here. I was going to say, that came out of nowhere. This is something you should have started earlier. It's like they forgot in the last episode. Are your eyes red? Yeah. See, this is closer to what she should have been like in episode two. Congratulations, Joe. You finally figured out an element of how she should feel. I'm just going to forget. Look more suspicious. I mean, you might as well put your hood on, dude. Like at this point. No, look, it's so conspicuous. Just walk like normal people. Ugh. Can you imagine if someone just walked past and like, what are you just sort of hiding here in this little alleyway? What are you doing, buddy? At least try and pillage some of that stormtrooper armor from the many bodies you've freshly created. That way you can freely move about with the undercover lady, escorting your prisoner to wherever you may need to go. So much better than this utterly suss shit. That's right. He's on our side. Designations, Nedby. Hi, Nedby. This is L0LA59. Well, let's say hello. He's just a loader. They don't allow him to communicate. What? What if he has something to say? Why did he have to tell the loader to load something? Yeah, why wouldn't he want to unload something? To communicate. That's just handy. Yeah. It seems like something very useful. I can't even be... I want to follow this guy's life. I'm way more interested in this guy than what he's up to. She said they don't allow them to communicate. That's so strange. Why would she not allow them to communicate? We have safe houses like this throughout the galaxy. Some call it the path. You're not the first Jedi to come through here. It all leads to Jubeem. From there we give them new identities and get them out. There's a lot of good people risking their lives out there. Are they all Jedi? Not all. These days the Empire hunts anyone who's force sensitive. So it's not the... Oh, it's just the presence of the people. Even children. Even children. Even children. They did that already back in the prequel here. We're not sure. What happens to them? We're not sure. No one ever sees them. Right, because they have a coming Christmas. Or they die. Or they die, yeah. Gully or sensitive to you. Oh, wow. Hyper ass. Smuggling, youngling. Who was mentioned, sorry? Quinlan? Was that the guy from the other planet? I forgot already what it was. Don't worry, Metal, I've got you covered. Meme repository, I'll take it from here. Quinlan Vos, fan favourite character best known for his appearances in the old Star Wars, Republic and Jedi comics. A morally ambiguous character often struggling with the dark side of the force and possessing certain unique force abilities. Well, unique until Rey stole them. Initially he was slated to die in episode three during Order 66, but the scene was never filmed so Quinlan lives another day, free for Disney to rub their bulbous, greasy cocks all over. Thanks, George. Can you truly see? You look. Shut up. Stop talking. Stop talking. Stop giving her lines. The same way. Follow me, I'll know the way. Yeah, if only your warbog could communicate. Yeah. Everything is fine. Just open up the door. Yeah, there's no reason not to open it. This must be something you've accounted for, right? You went through a secret door back there, you're fine. Yeah, just open up the door. Hello, I'm just a loader, loading. Hello, I'm Ned. You want some loads? No, please leave my house. Yeah, sure. A Jedi was seen entering this camp. Oh, someone did spot him. Man, if only you switched fucking clothing by now. Javedal was there off, you know? Might as well. You seen anyone? Can't talk. Just stand there. Oh my gosh. Why did you take so long to say that, of the Stormtrooper? Was it for the tension? Yeah, it's even worse. Why are you gonna have her on you? Why don't they know that? Surely they were. Wouldn't they be trained in all of these things? Well, they work here. They work here in this town. They don't know that. Destroyed Hades the Empire. Hades was better. Congratulations, you are being rescued. Someone must have seen us. There's no effort into being hidden and someone saw you. No, they won't shade leave that help. You're like an officer. People will really recognize you, right? I wear it on the other side. It gives me a faster draw. Can you teach me how to shoot? Not now. She's gonna shoot one day. She'll make a good fight one day. Yeah, there you go. Jesus, calm down. Why would you say that? Because it is true, right? It's just called the meta, like that's the thing. You're the loader robot to say, you know what, I think you're both right. And someone else a fourth person. Also, why would you let people write messages and names on the inside if this place gets discovered? Now they have a record of all the people who've come through here. So that's probably not too right. Yeah, Konobi should be incredibly thankful for this woman. She's facilitated everything for him. Not them, she's so helpful. He's been fucking useless on his own. I'm considering that she wouldn't have even needed to compromise everything if he had just waited another few minutes. Yeah, everything would have been fine. What's going on with him now? Oh, Vader's sensing Anakin's fleams. Oh, it's dark now. Wait, when was it night time? What the fuck? Well, the sun sets very fast on this planet, Molly. Blinking you'll miss it. Oh boy. Leave, leave, leave. You got it. Leave. We don't remember, Vader has that breath in the originals too. Oh, okay, okay. It's good to know. Yeah, so you need to run. Run the fuck away. If you can sense him, he can sense you. What are you doing? Just when we were complimenting him. And then it's gonna go red. It's about to go red, isn't it? There's the light saber. Oh no, maybe not yet. Oh wow, they showed a tiny minuscule amount of restraint. What if actually he's wearing his helmet? I'm just surprised they're not playing the Emperor in March, like at all. No, no, both of you go. Why are you looking at him? I don't want to watch you. You don't want Darth Vader to come towards you. Leave. Obi-Wan, I can see you. Are you gonna gratify time? Is that the play? Yeah, it's over. He knows. He's gonna do this to lure him out. Obi-Wan, you need to make a fucking decision, man. Uh oh. You just kill him? Yeah. Oh, he just kills people. This is evil. Darth Vader's just super evil. Go, leave. You should make him scream. That's what Vader would have done. Yeah, if you just kill him. Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan. Remember, you have a mission with Luke as well. He's forever. Yoda told you it's really important. No, it's fine. Don't worry about it. What are you watching? Oh, dead. Yeah, they're trying to imply this is why Obi-Wan has to stay, but... He shouldn't have been around to see any of this. It's just annoying that he's never thought that this is a potential. And this is happening all around the galaxy all the time. So... What is he doing? Vader, he's just trying to bait out Obi-Wan. No, not Vader. What is Obi-Wan doing? He's just running around looking at it. He's just waiting for people to die. He's not going one way or the other. He's just standing, allowing this to happen, but not doing anything. So what have you been doing? Vader's here now. You guys need to stop. Yes, all our family members are just casually killed for no reason at all. Yeah, we love the Empire. They're great. I just love casually murdering people for fucking no reason. That's my favorite thing for bad guys to do, because it really makes me believe they're bad people. How ever could a sizable rebellion ever be formed? Why would that ever happen? I can't imagine why that happened. It makes no sense. He's just fucking running away. Where did you go? How did you do that? Oh, okay. Why are you out here? This genuinely is so inherent that I feel like it's a vision, but I don't think it's going to be a vision. It has to be, right? How could he have caught up? Why would he be having a vision right now? He's just running away. Why did you come out here then? He's just running away. What the hell is he running back? No, I only run, but like, Jog. Are you luring him onto a landmine or something? Oh, is he ahead of you again? Is he flying to these places? He's running really quick when the camera is not on him. It's really silly, but we don't show it. Oh, this is annoying. If you put that in front of your face, you're going to blind yourself. Nicely finally pulled out the fucking lightsaber, though. Hey, how about that? Don't run away again, you pussy. You little coward. I wanted to do a brisk jog again. It was so funny. What have you become? I am what you made me. Yeah, you can't really talk, Obi-Wan. You did that to him. Yeah, I kind of fucked him up, but pretty bad. Oh, really? What are you doing? Or where are you going? Why are you touching their faces? Oh, now they're going to start interrogating people. It's like, probably should have opened with that. I need to talk to you. He literally just came out of the place. Well, they don't communicate very well. You can just press the button like a normal person. Of course she will find the correct place. You should be moving faster. You should be sprinting. You should be running. You just saw Darth motherfucking Vader. You need to run. What are we doing? It's unreal. Vader and Obi-Wan just met and he just jogged away twice. I can't believe we just saw that. Risk jog. Oh, here we go again. Is he going to pop up again? I'm so scared of Vader. Seriously, how could he not comment on the fact that he keeps pushing out? Like he has to. Where are you going? Why did you come out here? If you're going to run, I really don't understand. Walking is awkward. Oh, okay. How are we doing this? Okay. This is happening. Oh, man, that choreography. What's that? The years have made you weak. Are you going to... I feel like there should have been a conversation or something. Did you have history? It just means it seemed like almost cheap or something. Something's not right. It feels very cheap. I don't know where. Why would you look behind there? Don't you feel like we built up to this fight? No, there wasn't any build up. You're right. This is Vader and Obi-Wan. It's so unceremonious. There's just nothing to this. They're just here. It's like they're caching a check early. As soon as you put them in a scene, that's all you want to see. It's like really hard to come back from that. You have to be really careful how you use it. Wait, she's going to go help. Wait, what? The whole point is for you to get it. She needs it at least. This is a Jedi. The little girl needs your help. What the fuck? Why is this so... This is terrible. Do we even need clips of Revenge of the Sith to show the difference? No. He's done. That's a generic line. How do you know that would do that? Just walk through it, I guess. Use the force to make the smoke go away. You have telekinesis. They can't have an end to their duel and one of them dying though. I can't believe she's found it. She just looked and found it. Oh, look at all these names. I swear to God, if she manages to catch up with Leia and Leia's pilot, whoever that is, because of the stupid lady ditching them and walking there, because I don't know what else this would do to you. Are you angry because you saw a symbol? Oh God, please don't. You're just pressing all the right buttons. You have like eagle vision from a video game. She's not having eagle vision from Assassin's Creed. That is the button I need to press. The right is getting closer and closer to getting that. She's going to get Leia because she's so fucking dumb, don't you dare. Obi-Wan seems like such a pussy. Oh, what's that? The rocks? Use force on him. Back, do something. You can't just do that. That's cheating. Try and do something Obi-Wan. It does seem like this is an unspoken rule you're not really allowed to do. We talked about this. You can't do this because it's like the hyperdrive Kamikaze. You can't do this. Just to really emphasize the problem with this scene, let's jump into Jedi Academy. So we got Rose here. She doesn't have any force on her. So we're just going to do an old choke. Do an old choke maneuver there. Oh, sorry Rose. Oh no, oh nuts. Oh no, whatever we do. Oh no, Obi-Wan's here. What are we going to do? I'm going to do it to him now. Oh, oh no. Obi-Wan can't be gripped because he has the force too. So you see, game developers have to actually deal with the fucking bullshit that writers put on screen because otherwise lightsaber duels wouldn't function. They have to figure out, okay, so we want to give them force grip but we also want to give them lightsabers and we want them to actually use the lightsabers. So what do we do? Oh, I know. Anytime you try to force grip someone you have the ability to break out of it using the force because that would actually make sense. So Obi-Wan, fucking break out of your fucking grip. Man, use your fucking force powers. You've been training, right? You need to train Luke. So fucking use that thing that you should have been practicing and break free. Break free. Or we'll do this. Now you can't walk to him. Now you can't burn him as well. Obi-Wan. Oh, so he's going to be hideously scarred now. Well... Use the force Obi-Wan. Wait, sorry. Are the writers not familiar with what fire is? No, apparently not. Your pain has just begun. Why are you such a loser? Do they not know what fire does? How did she get out here without the other one finding her? No, they do know what fire does. I think there's a big guy standing there. That's not what fire does. Bullshit. How the fuck is she going to save him? You know where it came from. That's the downside of blasters. Great, more fire. Vader just put it out with the force. Just put it out again. Use the force and stop it. No, the lighter box is going to save him. Put it out. Vader, what are you doing? Vader? Use the force to grab the robot. Why are you watching him go away? Vader, stop him. Vader is currently having war flashbacks. He's having PTSD from the fire this time. He has to re-roll every time. Vader's retarded too. Are you just letting him go? You're leaving, you're fucking off. No, just walk around. Every other time that Obi-Wan went into a brisk jog they lost him. They lost him. He had to help her to sweep the planet. No one will ever fight him. No one is here. Just get a ship. Call your ships and your probe droids. He's here on the planet. He's just right over there. How did she get away? Where is Leia? She's still escaping. What's going to be? Wait, is she coming back? Yeah, she's going to be coming back. Yay, they did it. Excellent writing. Top notch. 110%. Beautiful. Impossible, but whatever. How'd we get here? Kill the pilot. Great. How is it even possible that she made it there ahead of her? Such good writing. Oh, wow. Written by four people. Four people wrote this. It took four people. And this is what we have. Stop saying it's based on Star Wars by George Lucas. It's a lie. I'm actually struggling. Wow. I'm really struggling here. I'm really struggling. Where do you begin? Genuinely, genuine question. Does anyone have any suggestions of how to make that worse without going into anything outside the realm of something they would do? I don't know, because I'm not even sure we're obeying the laws of where things are in space. Characters are where they can't be. Right? They've been running through that fucking tunnel system for half an hour before Riva even opened the door. How the hell did she get there ahead of them? Bullshit. Of course it was him. To be fair, it might not even be him. I figured it could have been. Hey guys, here's a short demo of our voice conversion technology. We'll be converting my voice to the voice of Barack Obama. The system captures the idiosyncrasies of how I say something each time I say it. I can say the same thing many times. The same thing many times. And each time the recording will be correspondingly different. This next voice conversion, suitable for applications where the results should have the personality and range to emotion of a real person. Let me help you. Have you heard anyone talk like that back home? The stupid... I'm going to break people's necks until Kenobi wakes up with lame and then him just like... And then Kenobi didn't even show up. He had to go like... What are you supposed to be? Like the dramatic meeting of these two people I haven't seen each other for a decade who are probably the most important people to each other in terms of their effect on their lives. It kind of lands with a bit of a like a... Brisk joke. I don't even know if you could have bungled that more. It's almost a meeting place. It's just some... Oh, this is where the end of crisis on Infinite Earth was. It's the same place. It's a fucking quarry. It's a dirt pile outside of Toronto or wherever. The fight itself is pretty lame. I don't even know if they should have fought. This should have been just like... We're meeting. I've been thinking about... Can you really call this fight like... What was choreographed here? I don't know what that was. Maybe they didn't have time to choreograph it and they just, you know... Wasn't like Hayden Christensen practicing? We are bringing back Hayden Christensen to reprise the role of Darth Vader. We couldn't tell the story of Obi-Wan Kenobi without addressing Anakin or Vader. Have another swing at each other. It might be quite satisfying for everybody. Well, so this is fight one done. As far as we know, there's three of them. There'll be another one. Well, there's definitely going to be one more. There's definitely one more. I guess it's just... It's really odd that you would think that the big stick of this show, which is essentially that you want to have this meeting. This show is fast-sinking into... You know how, like I say with Solo, I don't believe, like, when I watch A New Hope that Han Solo dropped Cthulhu into a black hole. Like, I'm kind of very quickly reaching that hero. I'm like, I don't believe this happened. I believe that he lived on Tatooine for 19 years and an uneventful life, and then he met or he met Darth Vader for the first time again on the Death Star. Like, I'm fast getting to that point. Knew the con... Because, man, we have made Kenobi, like I said, super cowardly, super incompetent. Yeah, they know what they're doing, Leia. You can't critically think to save his fucking life. It's gone insane. And I'm going to tell you, I'm totally fine with him not being as adept a fighter or as good with the Force now, but, like, he shouldn't be losing, he shouldn't be losing, like, the years and years and years of experience that he developed in the Clone Wars and all of his years as a Jedi master. He was a Jedi master. He was good enough to beat all of those people. He beat Darth Maul. He beat Darth Maul. He beat Anakin. He did pretty well to beat Count Dooku. Dooku, yeah. This is the thing, what's all going about? You're right. One of the best swordsmen ever, but this is just something he's casually the swordmanship in that fucking scene. What are we doing? Both of them are just idiots. Does it even make sense? Like, if he's been given this mission to protect Luke, do I way to believe that he wouldn't keep training just in case? Dude, I agree with you. I hate the fact that not everything is sort of as a prism viewed from his potential to help Luke. Like, every question that comes up in this adventure should be filtered through that. Like, if I do this, I might not be able to protect Luke. Yeah, I still have a job to do. Yoda told him. Like, Yoda told him this was so important. Yeah. Destroy the Sith. We must him. Safe. The children must be kept. We must take them somewhere where the Sith will not sense that presence. Do Tatooine. Do his family send him. I will take the child and watch over him. Yoda told him to spend, like, the next several, like, years learning about, you know, Force Ghost and everything. In your solitude, I'm Tatooine. Training. I have for you. An old friend has learned the path to immortality. How to commune with him. I will teach you. Yoda told him about Kwaiganjin. Why the fuck is his force turned off? I still don't feel justified. We've had that explained. I'm fine with him having doubts. I want him to have doubts. It's not a sure thing though, is it? No, no, no. That's what I'm saying is, like, I want this story to be about him having doubts about, like, whether his mission will bring about anything, what his failures were. But, like, that doesn't mean you have to completely turn him into an entirely incompetent, basically a different person. Like, I just don't even see. I don't. Yeah. This is not Obi-Wan. I was gonna say, what do we have that is Obi-Wan's here? It's Iwan McGregor. That is it. The actor. It's the actor. I don't see the traits of him in the prequel era, and I don't see his traits in the OT. And it's like, whoa, it's the middle story. But surely he's gonna have, like, a mix at this point. He's getting there. Or is this the story that will teleport him to Alec McGinnis, like, Obi-Wan? You know what I mean? Like, is this the one that's just gonna teleport him to those traits? He'll learn so much, and he'll be there, and then there'll be no more drama for the next nine years until Darth Maul shows up. I'm still pissed off for making him wear his fucking robe. Like, it's insane that he... Where's something normal? Yeah, that's the whole reason they're doing it is because it makes the audience connect, like, with their monkey brain. Like, that's Kenobi. Woo! Kenobi. He looks so... Oh, my bones are aching. Well, which is pretty crazy when you think about the fact that him lighting up his lightsaber, they didn't put much, uh... No, it's so casual. No, yeah, it was just completely casual. That's why I thought they were holding off on it last episode. I thought they didn't have him meet Riva just so that they could wait for the reveal of him turning on his lightsaber. And then halfway through this scene, it's like, oh, it's on, I guess. Okay. The way you do payoffs like that is that he's... it's like the Force one, right? But I just don't believe he turned off the Force. He's in a position where he's used every other option and he's got to do it. But to be fair, I only find that meaningful if he hasn't turned it on up to this point for a really good reason. But I haven't been given that reason. I didn't know that Jedi could bleed. I don't know why he's not doing all these different things. He's running these really complicated and dangerous adventures, but he refuses to use his two greatest tools. He just ran out to this dirt pile so that he could, I guess, see Darth Vader. I don't know why he went out there to look at him or to run away from him again. So I... What a joke. I hate the fact that he keeps fucking running away from Vader. Like... You should have words for each other. Like, this should be end of season. Oh, God, you're so right. You have a whole conversation. You have a conversation. Obi-Wan, I've been thinking about this for ten fucking years. Yeah, you took me off and put you in the fire. Now you know how it is. That's what I mean. It's so basic, bitch. Like, when you have these two talk to each other, you get like five sentences per scene. You get about three scenes. Like, what are we going to spend it on? I know you should have killed me when you had the chance. Fuck off. Which is a line that should exist in part of a much, much larger conversation. It should be... It should be something that we say is what Vader thinks as a result of all the other things he's saying. You should be able to pick it all up. These are all the obvious fucking things. Like, for example, let's have a line of him saying, I hate you. It's like, no, no, no, no. We wouldn't need that either. We want things said that are really insightful, meaningful for the two of them to actually say, this is your chance. You're ruining it. Our season's second act low point is maybe, if you want to have them meet sooner, the season's second act low point is Vader has sort of tracked Obi-Wan down and they're in close proximity. Vader then starts talking aloud about like he does with Luke. You can unhide forever, Luke. Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends. He's going to start talking aloud about what he did during Order 66 in the Jedi Temple and it makes Obi-Wan angry. Obi-Wan gets upset and he goes out there and he's angry and he fights him and he barely gets away and that's our low point because he kind of gave in to his emotions. He could talk about more people who've died as a result of going into exile. Exactly. Well, remember and return to the Jedi. Yes. Your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong, especially for sister. And that's how we lose Luke out. So you have a twin sister. Your feelings have now betrayed her too. Exactly. That's Vader. Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his failure is complete. Vader's so much cooler. He's not a bad ass that he is with this. If you will not turn to the dark side then perhaps she will. He's like, you should have seen Mace Winder. He was screaming like a bitch as he went flying out that window or something. You know, just saying things to make him angry. Have you ever wondered what happened to what's her face? Ahsoka here, you know, something like that. Get Obi-Wan to become emotional and angry. Draw him out. Obi-Wan kind of gives into that dark part of himself and he has to learn to find his way despite all of the guilt he might feel inside of him and all the bad things that have happened. He has to stay focused on the future, focused on his mission, on getting Luke on the path. It's not all over and you have to live to fight another day. You can have him going out. Several of the Jedi that have been hunted down over the decade, a lot of them when interrogated, when brought to their last limits, they are desperate for you and you abandoned them. Yeah, and you weren't there. Why? And then you could be like, because you fear me. And like Obi-Wan could be like, I don't even, this is the thing. In our version Obi-Wan knows Vader exists. That's not it. Yeah, yeah. This isn't a surprise. It's not fair. He's probably prepared for this day, just, you know, like many times. Vader definitely has. Well, both of them, why wouldn't they have a conversation? Why isn't it, I'm gonna put you in the fire. I don't like you. And then Obi-Wan runs away. Like, oh, terrible. Yeah, I always wondered if I'd see you again. Or something. Something, something. I got something. Something between these two. You totally have bungled one of the best potential payoffs that the story could have. And it's, it's all just, you've wasted it. Thoroughly wasted it. Completely wasted. I was gonna make you good, like you made me good. It's so cool. The light, the focus on this, it just ignores everything else that happens in that episode. Yes. We are in this field. Oh, damn. Why? Let's not wait. Let's go talk to this chap and get on his part. Don't say anything. Oh, feel free to speak freely with this stranger. Yes. Let's get on the barge. Oh, no. Imperial troopers. Stormtroopers are here. What are we going to say? Oh, whoops. Your name's not Leia. Wait, that's, that's her mom. Yeah. That's, I get him confused. I'm not Obi-Wan. Like what? What are we doing? No, he's a Obi-Wan. Episode three was so much worse than two. One of them. They can't construct, I can't wait for four. They can't construct one event leading to the next to save their lives. There's a fucking component of this that makes like, and it's like, oh, I see how that works. It's like, no, fucking Obi-Wan is like, well, why are they here? I don't understand how a person could not be in this exact location. Let's get on this truck and be stupid for 20 minutes. Like, I guess it makes sense. That truck was going and then it got to the place. That makes sense. I still take major issue with the meat shield. That bothers me to know. Yeah. I didn't know that he ratted him out. And even if he did. And even, he didn't even rat him out. He's just like, I found some weird people. Can you check him out? It's not even ratting him out. It's just like, these are basically police officers. I found these random people in a field. Like, can you check them out? Yeah. I think it's trying to, I think it's trying to, I think that they're trying to justify it with, hey, he liked the empire, so it's fine. Oh, so I can't use him as a human shield. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even believe that's something like a Jedi would do, just ever, really. It feels so out of character and so out of, out of order, dare I say. It's not going to wake up. It's going to wake up as well. What they needed to do was have the guy try to hit him with like a wrench or something. Yeah. And then Kenobi blocks it, flips him around. That's what, instead, the guy is like, oh no, leave me alone. Like, he looks panicked. Yeah. And Kenobi uses him as a shield. It's, it's not right. The fact that he turned off the, as well, like, gate to like get through the laser gate when he came off. Yeah, that was so funny as fuck. The stormtrooper's sharp and it's like, dude, you're a Jedi. You have a lightsaber. You can like fight three stormtroopers. Come on. He took out five of them and a probe droid, which probe droids can't shoot you. So there's six enemies. And then he can't take on three. You can argue four with the girl in the back. And they let him keep his gun when he goes down. It's like when the other guy captures layers, like, drop it and then he just shoots the dude. It's like, what was that? What's the point of like a drop the gun? I got you. I guess he didn't have it. I'm sorry, but I got this on screen right now. If this is the state of your prisoner, like, you might be like spot the problem with this image. Is there anything here that maybe it looks like? Yeah. It's not as big as the trigger. Especially when you have reason to believe that this is a Jedi, you know? I don't know why you wouldn't fucking shoot him instantly. I don't know why I wouldn't shoot him instantly. Yeah. Like, look, those are your friends. They were dead back there. Like, dude. They didn't wait around. They were like surrender. Then she started shooting. Oh, God. Also, there's a... Obi-Wan doesn't use the force in this episode when I feel like in these situations, having this kind of power is very good. Especially if you're... Dude, I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the episode 6 he cracks it back open, speaks to Obi-Wan, Luke is safe, Leia's safe. That's how it ends. Sorry, speaks to... Yeah, Qui-Gon, man. I wouldn't be surprised if the fucking last episode has Yoda and Qui-Gon in it. I wouldn't be surprised. I think Qui-Gon isn't a certainty. I think he'll only see Qui-Gon when he's like... I think it'll be symbolic of him coming through his depression. It'll be episode 5. At the end of episode 5, he'll give him a pep talk and be like, it's okay. Get him out of that second act low point. I'm gonna try again and then it'll be like, thanks Qui-Gon for helping me out. And then Qui-Gon will be like, yeah, no worries. It's what I do. I'm not up to anything else really. My timetable is wide open. You know, roll back even two or three years. You'll find footage of us talking about this show and then how, oh God, the invader and Kenobi back together doing things. It's so risky. And it's just like, well, he is realized. Yeah. I mean, it's retroactively damaging Obi-Wan. Darth Vader as well. Like, you just let him escape. Just let him leave. Yep. Why not? How did what's-a-name escape as well? She shot them from the top and it's like, I guess not. They just didn't care. They ran up there. She shoots once and none of them can figure out the direction it came from, even though they saw the bolt. So they would have seen exactly like, you can guess like, oh, there's a hill there. She's probably behind the fucking hill. Yeah, we should go get her. And then a second bolt comes out. And they still don't know where she is. And they don't chase her. What do we do guys? Oh my God. It's just start shooting into the fire where Obi-Wan. Think about this. Like, if he didn't do the fire thing, he couldn't have escaped. There would have been no way. Yeah. Nothing would have caught on fire. There would have been nothing. But then again, like Darth Vader, you have the force just jump over that shit. Like- This seems weird to me. Like it did before. The stuff is smouldering and she sets it back on fire. It's like- How does that happen? I don't understand how that works. Why don't you just put it out again? Yeah, he couldn't. Yeah. The first time. He just decides to let Obi-Wan escape because he wants him to turn around and- Why are they- They get full control over the set piece and they make it retarded. Like why would you do this? Why would all of your freedoms, do you make it this way? And then we have to just- This is what you envisioned? Like in your head when you thought about this moment, what am I going to do? What am I going to do? This is what was in your head? This is what your mind came up with? But Rags, we've got a really cool visual of Vader behind fire. Wow. That's really great. Because I couldn't- Because when I saw that visual, all I was thinking of, like why it wasn't- Why isn't he putting it out? He could probably just walk through it. Simplifies us how that burning his character. Over one. You gave me a burning, burning heart touch. I'm going to do it to you now. Hee hee. Fuck you, show. I can tell this one made you upset. It's Vader. Leave him alone. He's stuck. Yeah. We haven't done him yet. Did you like to part where Obi-Wan watched them kill people? Yeah, and he didn't react to it in any way? He didn't even have like an emotion on his face. But the problem with that scene is that they try to make it out as though it's like you have a choice. Run with a lair to get out of here or fend off Vader to increase his survival chances. And it's the worst of both worlds. He walks off like idiotically. He doesn't help any of the civilians. Then he gets caught and incapacitated by Vader while lair is caught. All of the worst things happen. Just pretty riddled from top to bottom with terrible riding. Fucking terrible. Mother's right. This is the worst of all worlds. This is the infinite multiverse of bad shows. We just got the worst one. I see. This is the longest of our three recordings that they're only going to get long. It's going to get fucking worse, dude. More and more annoying. Can I just say special shout out to Rogue One. You had Darth Vader in it. And if anything, some of that shit was really cool. Yeah. Yeah, that was. That was legit cool. He was in character and he did things that Vader would do. Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force. Its power to create problems has certainly been confirmed. A city destroyed. An Imperial facility openly attacked. Apology accepted, Captain Nida. Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director. You didn't just, ugh. They just made a load of Rogue Ones. Stuff like that. Yeah, I can't believe we're wishing for the world. They just made a bunch of Rogue One level stuff. Star Wars is probably going to be a relatively healthy place. You'd be saying, you know, there's nothing as outstanding as the original. It's fine, they're doing some stuff and it's enjoyable. Because here it's just pain. It is pain. It's like I'm being dragged through fire in a dirt pile. You'll know something worse. You'll know something worse. Well, that doesn't do much Raxid to worry about it. You'll be fine. Ah, okay. You want to know something all upset you guys even a little bit more? Alright, go for it. I was like, I went to Twitter right away and I decided to, you know, share my immediate take as I generally do with these episodes. And I thought that the appropriate way to do it with this one would be to tweet out pictures from the episode and say, people who saw this episode without laughing derisively, why? And, oh, I weren't even told I went in looking to hate it. People going, I don't know, like it's got some problems, but like it's fine. It's like, and that's the overwhelming response. There are a few people who are like, yeah, it's really bad. I agree. But the overwhelming response is an episode. What are you talking about? Okay. Well, I couldn't even read it all the way. I'm sad. How is functional? The first word anyone thinks of to describe this. This episode is absolutely dysfunctional. To a degree that's kind of insane. The least functional things I've ever seen. You know, it's like, oh, we can't make a meetup with the helper person. We've got to get some stressful tension filled scenes with other stuff. It's like, so they land, have a bunch of stormtroopers outside and then get your tension that way. And they have to escape the ship without them realize there's stuff like that. Why did you do this? Why did you make everyone so stupid? Why did you have to do it? You didn't have to do it like this. Re-drafting probably would've. Well, this is like, it's so dire. It's so dire. Like we need, we get everybody where we need them to be regardless. I don't, I still don't understand how Reva got to the guy before. It's the, how did you know where the tunnel went? How would you know where the tunnel went? There's one tunnel, right? I thought there was just one path. There must not be. There must not be. Which otherwise she would've run past Leia. Exactly. She would've bumped into the other girl who's heading back to help Kenobi out. Yes. Yeah. And so we have to conclude that there is a series of tunnels down there and she happened to pick the right one and get ahead of Leia. What the fuck? How does that make any sense? But what that means is that the girl that was helping him, she didn't tell Leia, okay, when there's a fork in the tunnel, you take left. Well, maybe we'll pass the fork at that point, right? Oh, maybe they were past the fork, of course. Astounding that Leia had that much of a head start and she got ahead of her fucking incredible. It is. You'd think that the closest point between the two would be to run down the tunnel. Leia is now in the Empire's custody. Again. Yeah. And she's been travelling with Obi-Wan and Kenobi. Yeah. Both Obi-Wan and the lady both, they both decided, because Obi-Wan has a responsibility, he does, to get back to Tatooine to take care of Luke. Like, he needs to do that. And then he decides to run off to go fight Vader and potentially die. And then, like, the second one as well is, this lady is like, hey, can you make sure that Leia gets to safety? Like, that's all I need from you. And then she's like, you can handle this yourself, right? Leia, like, you can find your way on your own. I gotta go help Obi-Wan. They both abandoned her. Why? Absolutely fucking insane that they both abandoned her. Yeah. I want to ask the people who made these scenes, like, do you think this makes the OT better? Do you think that seeing this makes it better? Yeah, they're like, ah, this makes it so much richer. Like, it makes it so much richer. Yeah. When Obi-Wan meets Darth Vader, that makes it so meaningful. When Obi-Wan says to Luke, yeah, he's a good friend. He remembers how he got burnt, like, put in the fire. He's obviously like, yeah, he's a good friend. What I mean, that scene works way better when everything between these two goes because of Obi-Wan having done so much too, Anakin. He knows what Anakin did. But yeah, dragging him through burning coals, whatever the hell this was. That was just stupid. That was really stupid, yeah. Bye. Keep doing it. Just keep fucking shit up. I'm so glad that they've dragged Vader down, along with Obi-Wan. We gotta do them both. We gotta make them both insanely stupid and idiotic. The level field for everyone. Everyone needs to be as retarded as the other one. Stormtroopers are stupid. Obi-Wan is stupid. Darth Vader is stupid. If you accept at this point that Star Wars is just a series where everyone has an IQ of 30. That brain damage is still too much. That's just how intelligent people are in this universe, right? And the original trilogy, in some points in the prequels, there are some anomalies. There's just some people that get lucky and they have some good ideas by chance. Then I think everything lines up. That load of robots incredibly slowly moving away with Obi-Wan's body while there's all these Stormtroopers that can just walk around Vader. People can't walk around things in this universe. If something is between them and the thing you want to get to, they can't sort that out. Vader is just like, oh no, fire. You just put it out and he's like, oh no, Obi-Wan's too far away. It doesn't even look like Vader is doing anything or it's like concerns. I guarantee the first defense for all of this from fans will be like, no, no, no. Vader wanted this. He wants Obi-Wan to escape because he wants him to feel fear or some bullshit. That's why the Stormtroopers keep shooting at him. It's especially good with the fact that every other time it looked like Obi-Wan was going to escape, Vader just teleported there out of nowhere. It's so transparently just, yeah, the show wants him to escape now, fuck you. Yeah, so it's actually a point for that, right? So you've got, there's an exit tunnel that leads to a pilot that leads to a ship that gets you off-planet. It's like, okay, and Vader is, you can see him in front of you, past your sort of shelter. He doesn't know where you are. It's like, all right, well, with everything you've explained to me, it sounds like our heroes can get out of here because they'll sprint down that tunnel away from Vader and toward salvation, right? No, actually, none of them can get out because of this situation. Oh, and then you're like, they are meters away from Vader, heavily injured, slow, and nowhere near any kind of ship or pilot or any help, but they escape because the episode ended there. Oh. Talent. I've never seen, yeah, Obi-Wan Kenobi is 20 feet in front of you, and you're watching him get carried away, and he won't just put out the fire again and get him, or he won't just walk around. He won't just walk around. Grab him with a fork. You came all this way. You came all this way across the galaxy to this planet to come fetch him, and here he is, 20 feet in front of you, and I guess you can say... I'm not even sure how that works out time-wise. They're weird, slow-ass probes, and then they finally got there, and Vader is here, and Reva and all the other ones. I just... It doesn't take about the same amount of time to get from Mustapha to this planet as it does to get from wherever they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because Obi-Wan goes from city planet to new planet, and then Reva goes from city planet to planet where her bosses live, to have a meeting about how they need to send out the drones. Drones ascend, and they arrive and are prepared for Kenobi, like... Oh, of course, the timeline. How does it even go on? Ten minutes after he's arrived at that planet. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. You know, I knew that's what you were trying to say. I was trying to line up exactly. They were there for like a day at most, and by a day I mean like 12 hours. Yeah, so travel takes time. It felt to me like it was fucking 20 minutes, like in real time. Yeah. Well, really, it was, right, with all of the time. Maybe they've got it. When he was like, oh, it's a long story. He's like, it's a long trip. It's like, no, it's not. It's literally like one minute. Yeah, like two minutes. Two or eight minutes. Yeah. And I know some of them would be like, nah, it's just montage cuts. They didn't talk about anything else. Oh, I thought they were just standing out in the field. They're just in the field. Oh, yeah, they were ravaging that field. Obi-Wan is so bad at it. That's what the Empire does. They just ravaged. Obi-Wan's so bad at being secretive that if their conversation lasted for a half hour, then it's over, because he wouldn't be able to keep lying. They would just be like, oh, so, you know, we're in this country or we're in this planet. Did you, did your, um, your wife die? Or were you visiting? He has no idea what the names of anything here are. Yeah. Also doesn't even work out with the lady who was supposed to meet him there. Like, apparently she was there, but he was gone. Yeah, because he didn't wave. So they must have driven. Yeah, they were on water. Like lost each other at some point. And then she went back, get her uniform, get onto the transporter with the stormtroopers that happened to head there where Obi-Wan is. I just, no, it doesn't work. She didn't even... It's not enough time for anything of this to happen. And, uh, she would have known they were at the outpost because she was heading there. Um, because yeah, she had always not, she didn't call ahead to be like, oh, don't worry about checking those two. You know, I know them. They are locals. Don't worry about it. They've been here for years or they visited before. I know them. She didn't try that. She was like, no, I know the people of you. Yeah. It was also stupid. This episode is really, really broken. Terrible. It's not even funny. Like, it's absolutely broken. It was never funny Belle. And sometimes it is funny, but this isn't funny. This is just bad. No, yeah. It's sad. It is frustrating. Like, if you can't even... It's a writer. You can't even make sure that the places where your characters go actually make sense. I mean, I'm sorry. Like, I don't know what I'm gonna tell you. This is like it's like theater of the mind, but you have vertigo they weren't focusing on on logistics though They you know, they were focusing on making sure that they nailed the The cat's true. Yeah It is this is one of the biggest Wasted like that in terms of that that narrative opportunity cost This is one of the biggest losses I've ever seen. It's like you could have made a million dollars instead You had to pay 12. Oh, it's like Disney don't want to make money because I know that people be like What do you mean? It's the most successful like shut up. It would have been way more successful if it was well-written People be obsessed with it they'd be talking about it those people don't even don't we would be like man I can't yeah, I can't wait for the next show because everything they make is good to okay It's like they legitimately forgotten the franchises start up somewhere You know like arcane as a as a as an IP it's like a lot of people wouldn't even know it has anything to do with law Until someone tells them it didn't have like the benefit like that name is gonna get around the more They have good seasons and the more people be drawn in like Star Wars can always do that It seems to be relying almost exclusively on people who even know it exists anyway And it's just watching it for that reason. So I saw an original sci-fi series a while ago Honestly quite a lot better than what we saw today, and it didn't get around It was called another life It is not started honestly. Yeah, like quite like I Quite a lot might be pushing it but like better easily better Then episode three at least maybe probably worse than episode one You say anything and say it's better than this and I'll just believe you it's it didn't like it didn't start a franchise In fact, it was cancelled after two seasons because no one gave a shit about it because it was bad Episode three everybody Episode one was not good, but yeah, that's terrible episode two was terrible, and this is just a disaster Yeah, and so I'm gonna get worse imagine what four five and six haven't still a one I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest. I think they're gonna have to try to get worse than this You know Right It's gotta be uphill from here The next episode will have five right maybe that means it'll be even better What if one of them actually had a really great story to tell and a super talented But the other three dipshits in the room wouldn't let them get the ideas down Oh and the one was just that bad or they had the most influence or like what okay? I could even see a scenario where like all four of them had great ideas and great stuff that they wanted to do And then the studio was like hey you all guys need to work together Oh, I like that idea put this in here, but like incorporate this other idea as well But that doesn't yeah, that's what we want like I could see that happening. Yeah, like a master chief He'll be a special for inner guy. Yeah, not all humans Yeah, we'll do that and then we'll take this part over here And we'll just combine them all together and then and then Obi-Wan Kenobi in Darth Vader They meet in that night in the dirt pile and then Obi-Wan runs away And it's great and we'll have the music and it won't even matter because we're showing Darth Vader And it won't even matter and it won't even I know that you watch these two to control your pain Well, that was great, I guess we'll see everyone later You maybe talk about sort of how you went about developing Vader's physicality in the armor Because this is a character that that existed before I was even alive There's just a continuity there that that we needed to adhere to So I think we all felt it was very important to get that right and Debra had a Vader specialist movement on set for us to make sure that everything sort of rang true and We've never seen Vader like he is in Kenobi. There's absolutely nothing funny about his entrance in this episode I saw in his eyes. I saw the What'd you bring me? All right So excited can't wait to see what happens next. I've we've seen the lightsabers in Darth Vader And I hope everyone says hello there Like only half the farts I did came through what is that? I didn't hear any I saw a green circle for two of them. I think but yeah, I'm so sorry No fart noises. Is it like a particular style I can do that'll make it come through Well, I figure farts are a good way to start this off considering the last episode we just watched Yeah, it's also how I feel right now It's fine. Just talk over me. It's okay I'm sorry We're here for episode four of Kenobi we did three already that was pretty tough I Didn't love it. They know what they're doing there. I didn't love it ranks. I didn't so this is the halfway point Are we just crossed it? There's six, right? We got three more episodes Yeah, I guess you could say we are currently at the halfway point. We won't be We are bridging the halfway point currently a lot of people. I saw a lot of people liked episode three It was just the impression I got based on social media reactions a lot of people really like when he put him in the fire Which is man like that's pretty that's that is pretty disappointing that kind of upsets me a bit I love that. He just like uses the force to just like spread all this flambent material on the ground because it's like I thought we could all appreciate how stupid this is and then he's just gonna literally rub Obi-Wan's face in it while he's on fire That's just misunderstanding who he is And it's a little bit um, it's a little bit disappointing that so many people thought that that was a great thing that he would Absolutely do and it's perfect. It was one of those moments where it's like, oh, we don't like this for the same reason I thought we did but like Maybe we didn't like this character for the same reason. Oh, yeah, definitely that people debate in whether or not it was in character a lot in even our audiences, but The general audience is just loving it. Just like Expecting to kill him Yeah What I figured he would want to do I figured he would do what we saw him do an episode four Which is just kill him those at this wedding last night and someone brought it up to me specifically and it's like It's just like oh, it's great like they are great. It's like no, it's trash I was way too smashed to actually argue anything. I was like, yeah, it's fine I thought you were gonna say you were so trash that you did argue it like cuz normally you don't you'd be like You know, I'm fucking You're fucking problem, I got I gotta say this is probably gonna be the most painful of these shows I think both affair was funny and your inventory is water Yes, I grew up surrounded by water And how bad it was pretty funny. Yeah, and Mendo was like disappointing in terms of like the potential of that as an idea But getting squandered, but there's not that much to get super invested in whereas here It's like oh these are characters. I like in raging. Yeah, it is disappointing though Because the more I think about it the more I realize that you really there is a story to tell in this period for Obi-Wan But it's just not the kind of story that was probably ever gonna get made because you need marketing material And you need people swinging their lights a bulls the lights a bulls light sabers Using the force and going to crazy planets instead of which is kind of funny because I'm sick of Tatooine This is probably the one series where he never should have left Yeah, yeah, man's a laurian could have gone to literally NAD no reason to have a go to Tatooine It didn't need to be there Boba Fett Maybe could have maybe more sense to be on Tatooine a bit, but like every episode This is what I mean, I don't know why Boba Fett would have any oh, that's right because he lived with the Tuscans He was Episode one Tatooine fine, but from there get the fuck out of there. Yeah Well, he's associated with Java as well, like I guess Dad but he would still be associated with the organization I imagine you already collect like information on a new bounty quest giver Let's say and get the fuck out of it But they use that because it was cheap as fuck could have just had it not be him trying to take over the territory Yeah, that was a weird choice they do this all the time every single fucking show has a weird choice for the narrative Baby Yoda is kind of a weird choice from being completely honest Brought him back in Booker Boba Fett instead They reset Bando in Booker Boba Fett to do Bando season 3, which Yeah, that was so weird Skeleton crew has been made by John Watts and it's probably got the best chance It'll have the best character stuff in there probably And to be fair if anyone out there thinks like oh wow you're just simping for I'd be like no no no no He's got to get like a two and and he beats out the rest Yeah, the bar is very very low if they basically if they have one character They've done it one guy is like a character. We've seen that in face for the MCU as well, right? But no way home is the best one. It's like why it has characters That's it. That's a plus. That's a plus those in the plus call gets you over the line at this point Especially like especially in the Disney Star Wars kind of world. What a disappointing tenure. It's been god damn Oh, yeah, it's been terrible. Yeah, it's lower. Hello unless well, you're in the general audience World one I was thinking for those who are following this as a series We are very disappointed with the treatment of Kenobi and Vader already And layer yeah, which is again not even something you'd expect us to have said if you listen to this with no context Like what do you mean layer? He's like, yeah, I know I know and then as for the cavalcade of new characters. It's like I don't know great. I don't know what's to be said for any of them really I don't know what you would talk about with like Revva for instance. I don't know what she wants I don't know is a clown and an idiot kind of like everyone. They're all yeah To be fair, she's probably the smartest character in the whole series in terms of she gets except for the girl who helped Kenobi Those two are probably the ones that get the most brains right now because their plans work not because they're actually smart Yep, that's that's kind of where I was going with that like the plot boosts their intelligence just by a result Because you know Riva should have been in jail by now killed, but she's not because reasons Which will be interesting because this episode will be catching up with her and layer Don't know where that's gonna go. I'm assuming we're gonna get back to tank for for Obi-Wan You'll be fine. You'll be like you were burned by Tulasian flames. They don't really do much damage Yes, they burn at a lower temperature than regular fire What they lack in singeing you they make up for in pain causing Beta was looking there accident he fucking cut himself. He accidentally used the cold fire the cold In recording when he tips over the thing and all the rocks go over I say like wait, what is that? What's that? It's like, yeah, what why was there just these flammable rocks and that would it's so lame because it's just like you knew The right I was like, right How do we get him to do the thing to him that he did to him? Well, there's like there's some rocks over there that are and be flames. I don't know. That's good enough, isn't it? That seemed was really stupid the interesting part from what I've heard is that episode 3 did really well with the Pubic episode 4 has not what I've heard is that even Star Wars theory was unhappy with episode 4 What if it's good, I'm assuming we're dealing with the kind of bad That's just like Vespa bad where it's it's oh, I see I see why everyone doesn't like this. It's all so bad But yeah, you think you're gonna get another layer chasing. I'm really excited. It's a staple of that We're gonna get our mandated action scene because Never not gonna be the way that these shows work, but first comment showcase Can you believe it they released fucking like three episodes within five days it was like hello calm down We we can't get to be there and so now yeah, we're gonna check out the first one I thought it was quite funny. You got the the famous trailer moment where he says something like when the time comes He must be trained like you trained his father. I like how they really really expanded that. Oh, yeah, they really went Like the trailer alone was basically yeah, it was for the trailer or maybe they're just generally incompetent Maybe that solves everything. They're all just like yeah, we don't have any ideas There's not a discussion to be had actually nobby is a good character. He must be fleshed out Like you fleshed out Luke This they're coming for everyone, okay, and they'll even come for them before they were born if they have to or after they die It's funny and bogey bogey fat bogey stayed on Tatooine the entire time when there was no reason for him to do so But in Kenobi Obi-Wan leaves at the end of the first episode when there was every reason for him to stay on Tatooine Yeah, yeah, it's kind of wild. It's just cuz I had more money Yeah, and you throw in Mando ends up on Tatooine all the fucking time as well I wonder if and all will end up on Tatooine Tatooine was the shitty backwater will Luke couldn't wait to escape yet It's now the cornerstone of the entire universe. Yeah Yeah, and because Luke had to get out of there and a new hope it just stuck forever It's stuck forever have the opposite effect of of what the implications because it's like a big theme in a new hope When you're growing up and you you go out there and you see the world Tatooine is the shitty starting point of the world We you grow out of it, but no Tatooine is like one of those amazing places everywhere Everyone wants to go to it all the things happen here But if it wants to rule Tatooine or at least part of it It's just a simple dirty place that you can just put Things and you don't have to worry about thinking of a new planet or thinking of even Mandalorian in the first episode it had a Tatooine clone planet and Navarro is Tatooine ask so that that vibe they really really just want to keep getting it keep getting it I love how when Obi-Wan is sleeping and having the flashbacks. He has flashbacks to scenes He wasn't even present. I noticed that on a rewatch when they when they were Premiered while I was watching those. I'm like, oh, we didn't bring that up when it feels like something We'd absolutely notice like it's weird that he's remembering all this stuff when he when he wasn't there to remember these things I think we were just distracted by the potential because it was it was I'm sure that happened Yeah, it was like oh much better. This could all be and one because you have to catch that many mistakes Like in the moment that they happen when they're just piling up one after another and you're watching it You know for the first time live. It's it's really tough to keep them all, you know Give it all straight Leia the being of pure kindness and respect in regards to the droids anyway So much she thanks droids nine years from now calls chewier walking carpet. Well, somebody get this big walking carpet out of my way No reward is worth this guess her cousin was right. I Think if they had their way and it was properly represented they would the her qualities are through the roof good She's like an 11 out of 10 good person Unfortunately because they really bad at writing her recklessness is like put many people's lives in danger several times But I guess she's still super insightful like it can be a mark against it But I guess it wouldn't be if we're trying to be fit or like the child But then you just have to conclude like yeah She's just kind of an idiot even for a 10 year old to be honest with you a 10 year old's ability to experience fear Should have been enough to prevent her from screwing things up as many times as she has but uh That was turned off except for that one moment in episode three where she said It's almost like cheating how do you access the correct scene in the middle of all this garbage There are a few of those like when Obi-Wan said that Does it feel like have you ever been afraid of the dark? How does it feel when you turn on the light? That was great, I like that. Mmm. That was 10 seconds of something good in just a sea of awful misery Which is how it tends to work. See there's usually the pussy tiny things Unfortunately, that scene does a little bit of damage to adding on why as if we needed more reasons why He shouldn't have let go of the force throwing all this time because he needs to be ready to use that in order to fulfill his You know job his mission of protecting Luke and everything But if that's what the force is like then man I it's weird that you would put yourself off from it I wonder if they're going to try and justify it if they are going to elaborate on Potentially suggesting that you know three episodes left the force Oh, I mean gonna do action scenes if they elaborate and they say he wants to be connected to the force But he's struggling or something, you know Something for us to latch on to you with just why he's disconnected Then I will consider the show much more highly than I already did well I will consider it to be a lot less bad than I currently do. It's generous to me. That's pretty significant I think they're just gonna it's gonna be full speed ahead with the plot Yeah, I think we have time. It'd be so funny if Qui-Gon doesn't show up with how it's just like fully expected at this point What if it's like you're all poof? I hope he shows up by my bingo card I like how the Inquisitor orchestrated the kidnapping of Alderaan royalty the daughter of an esteemed and influential senator And she isn't immediately executed or imprisoned by any of the other inquisitors for this. Nope It's the foundation of the entire show this problem. Yeah, that's what kicks this all off Yeah, this is the underlying plot thing that gets him to abandon Luke These are all kind of the same point and there's a reason why these are these the top comment because it's the show This is what everyone's talking about something that annoys me is that this inquisitor was able to figure out how to draw out obi one So quickly, but did Darth Vader never think to do this? He wants him dead more than anyone No one thought to do this. She was the only one and it magically worked somehow and it's already too late now In the cats out of the bag. So as we've gone over the um, the organa family is screwed It doesn't make sense that riva would think Kenobi would be drawn out by Leia just because he knew bail He was a Jedi master So of course he knew some senators But he wouldn't risk everything for their random kid The only reason it makes sense is if riva knows that Leia is Anakin's daughter There's no way she could know that but the audience does so the plot hole goes over people's heads So steel man this the maximum either the information is tenuous and therefore it was an insane gambit And she should be punished or the information she's found really is damning and that's it for bail organa He's done, but they're not going to commit to either of those instead It's this weird middle middle ground where there was the sub information Because remember the ground inquisitors like and you did this without informing me Yeah, it's that weird it's it's a middle ground that can't logically exist because it sits between I have enough to enact it confidently, but not enough to tell everybody No, and not enough to just brain flume bail. Yeah, just show up with the inquisitors and say, yeah Flash your badges or whatever you do or just show up in your silly hats and uh, yeah Just that was such a fucking mistake being able to just pull info out of people's heads Alderaan is a member of the empire bail organa is a senator in the empire if he told the empire about it They are obligated to go look for his daughter even though diva If the river hired bounty hunters to kidnap them the other inquisitors are very upset and considered a rogue action So technically speaking the empire should be hunting these bounty hunters down to the ends of the earth They're already dead wiped them out and they didn't even know I'm guessing they wouldn't they would have assumed that this was an empire job I don't even know Well, yeah, if a if an inquisitor comes to you you assume Rightfully so that this is an empire sanctioned thing. They might not talk about it publicly But because if they did realize they were kidnapping a senator's daughter as a rogue mission by given to them by An inquisitor is trying to subvert the empire's involvement in it too. I don't know why they would have agreed You know, yeah, you you only agree to get out of that room And then yeah go until every all the other inquisitors like you know just to be clear like is this okay? What we're doing because this sounds really sketch And we're very sketch people and this sees this is a setting off our alarms. All right I can't resist I have to read this okay, so this is from the star wars. Kenobi subreddit, which by the way Uh, they had a bit of a they were unhappy with episode four that subreddit Oh, but remember before that point they were quite happy Presumably anyway though There's been complaints about episodes one two and three at this point and and there's someone posts on the subreddit to say You know enough is enough. It's time to put these complaints to rest. You got oh boy I'm so tired of people complaining about stupid shit spoilers. Oh, that's us one two and three I know it regards us specifically. I'm very happy about that. So you got grand inquisitor Obviously, he's not dead. He's in rebels and pal an have two stomachs. It shouldn't even have to be said The only place you could get stabbed in and die is the stomach Unironically like how can you be surprised that people think someone's dead off? Just with a light saber. Yeah, this is already parody to me this first sentence is hilarious. This is like Yeah I do like that like oh, they have two stomachs. It's like so they probably have those for a reason right like I imagine if you get Trouble bro, if you were shot in the kidney and rags was like, we don't need to take for you to the hospital He's got two kidneys. I'm like, what are you talking about? He's been shot. They have their main stomach and then the spares I didn't even need to be said that the poan Like nobody knows the vast majority of people who watch Star Wars don't know who they are. I have two stomachs It's like man. I bet you that like you asked most people they'd be like, oh, yeah, he's dead, right? Like he asked most people who watch the show. I don't even know why this It's like basic use this logic for cows cows have four stomachs. So you could take a light Wow And you'd be like That's another one. Wow So they probably have those for a reason, right? Like I have four stomachs. I imagine if you get yeah, yeah Trouble what it's almost like you you completely miss for you say exactly that all of that actually Oh, did he say that? That's love right there. That's true love That's legitimately bizarre because I have been listening. I thought I He thought he did tunnel. It's not a straight line. It's a secret tunnel close to ground level They can't just make it a straight line River went over They were going because they locked the planet. So the most logical choice was the spaceport. Yeah, but how'd she get there fast? No, there's so but you have to rewind there's so much wrong with this, right? Tunnel it's not a straight line. It's a secret tunnel close to ground level. They can't just make it a straight line Yeah, they can I mean, yeah Well, the thing is in order to excavate that tunnel you dig in through like rocks anyway. Yeah So, you know, I imagine that you might need to turn it every now and then if you hit a much harder part But like if it should be pretty straight, right? Yeah, you'd want to make it as short as possible. So you have to excavate the less So yeah, yeah, it should probably be two straight lines You know to get to where like a for a to b you'll get there in two straight lines. I imagine you don't need any more than that How's they have four stomachs? Yeah, that's like the thing I said. It's like fine. I'll I'll give you know what it's fine. I'll give it to you It's not a straight. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. That's not really the problem We were highlighting river went over So she went outside and did her stupid fucking bat woman level choreography to bounce over the whole thing You tell me that happened and she managed to get to the correct one It's like, all right, so question. How did she know which is the correct one? She knew because they locked down the planet So the most logical choice was the spaceport So you've just highlighted why it's the most illogical place for them to have laid ago That would be really stupid. There's no point in going to a spaceport. There's locked down Why would the pilot be there the pilot should be in some kind of you know black ops area where they launch ships Secret from from the planet. How does somebody get this arrogant with their defenses when they're this bad? Like this is the so far you've done the opposite of explain yourself twice I find it amusing because I think if I read these arguments and then the person was in in the call ready to be like I'm fucking, you know nail this when you hear my opinion I'd be like, can we conclude though that if you're wrong with your references that you can conclude these these are problems Right, you're not gonna go. It doesn't matter, right because you took the time to explain the problems So so that they matter, right? They're worth defending Presumably because you're trying to defend the show from being bad or being portrayed as bad It's just that shit where they they use continuity to defend and as soon as they realize it's nonsense They're like actually it doesn't matter who cares. It's a Star Wars show. You're like, ah, you fuck you're cheating Little fucker Vader obviously let Obi-Wan go Jesus Christ if he wanted Obi-Wan dead then Obi-Wan would be dead He wants to fight Obi-Wan Kenobi Jedi master not Ben Kenobi stinky That right there is like such a like, oh, I agree. Yeah, he's basically stinky caved. Well, it could be true Like how you just made that up you totally fucking You just made that up and you I'm just imagining Vader going up to Kenobi going. Oh, I don't want to kill you You can't kill me yet, Vader. I still live in a cave I don't even have a mattress He wants him to get stronger so you can have the satisfaction of killing him fairly and the closure of knowing that he truly Is stronger and let him suffer so I will be interested to know if this holds up when thinking about that scene Now roll your minds back. We're in the stormtroopers Unloading on Kenobi as the lord they were to say it's a bit That vader wouldn't have said hey guys stop if his goal was to allow Kenobi to escape And if his goal was to allow Kenobi to escape and get stronger why drag him through flames Yeah, I feel like that would make him a lot weaker. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right I mean, damn like if you're swimming in a light saber at someone if he like does a bad block you can just kill him That's one of my big pet peeves in all kinds of media is when people are in fights with Swords and like one hit kill potential weapons And they don't realize the gravity of the fact that they're Like inches away from killing each other constantly and then at the end they're just like oh, hey nice little No, you almost killed each other multiple times if you were off with your block by just a little bit You could have been killed and seriously injured But I kind of seen only works with characters who don't particularly value their own lives or grasp their own mortality The other thing I think that's interesting about this is that uh, The rest of the series will likely conclude whether or not this is true because he's sad, right? He obviously wants obi-wan to live he wants him to escape and it's like All right, I'll be listening to every last bit of vader dialogue going forward to see if you're correct because you seem to think that this is just completely obvious, but uh I'm starting to wonder because I don't believe for a second that vader actually wanted him to leave He was going to get him right up until the loader bot started to drag him away Bring him to me Does nobody remember the scene? Yeah, exactly if nobody came to save him what was vader gonna do just get rid of his light saber He's gonna have to do he'll trade him up himself He'll like no, I'll tell you he was gonna have to do the the really slow waddle run from the first episode where he's like pretending to Chase Kenobi Ooh, I'm getting closer. Uh, we do like a Like in mask of sorrow He's just training him day after day to get good enough to have a fight with him that he'll win like that's that's all vader wants As we press through yeah, the indignance in this um in this Thread is starting to get a little bit more annoying Of course, he didn't want him dead because he'd be dead if that were true. This is like I see, you know the guy who tried to stab Ray in the back with his little knife So like of course, he didn't want to do that because it disappeared Yeah You're saying that he didn't it's it's like well, this is what happened. Therefore. It's good, right? It's like well. No, that's the floor that's being pointed out. Yeah, this is not a It would make it's not fulfilling his argument. Yeah. Yeah, but then seeing it show the brakes can No, it don't I felt since show me where he said moose to far. Go ahead. Show me. So it's funny I don't think anybody cites the I felt since line is definitively moose to far It's more so people focus on the line where he says How could he be saying that when he dominated Kenobi the last time he for him again, it's it's the Han Solo Thing it's like I just don't believe that this they met The running theory is that they are going to have another fight and Kenobi is going to thrash him That must be what happens to make it fit with cannon and I find that so funny Like you think they're going to try and make this fit with cannon I don't think that there's any interest in continuity really don't get that impression They should have been more specific with their dialogue just to protect themselves from future butchering I haven't seen you since moose to far The lava planet where you chopped off my limbs and I bid No, all they would have to do for that is just have them meet on moose to far again And obi one chop off Vader's robot arm that wouldn't stop them Yeah, they would try and find a way to break it again Laser fence brah would you rather go around or shoot a button that literally makes it disappear? Sure, he could have gone around but why would he when it's more comfortable and easier to deactivate it? Why would you go through your back door when the front door is more comfortable? So Here's an apt analogy for this Let's say that I don't know you come back to your house and you realize you've locked your keys inside But you have keys at the back door to open up the back door and you're like now Fuck it and you just kick in your front door. It's like this is easier. It's easier to get through. This is more comfortable You have an auction that is paid for you You don't have to destroy anything and you choose to destroy something instead Your body isn't even like that fair to the situation in terms of like it's more so he could have just opened the door But he kicks it in. Yeah, it's like, um, it's like It's like I have a better analogy would be that if you went to the front door and it was locked But the window was just open for you like the window is right there You can just jump right through it you go to your front door and it's locked But you don't have any walls and you can just walk around Instead of walking around I could just literally take this gun that's right here And I could just put a bullet into the door that opens it up so that now he can walk through it And if you want a pragmatic reason it's like it takes more time to do what he's doing And then there's more alerting of the systems being damaged. I don't know like if someone's defending the show I'd be like don't defend that just leave that How do you know shooting it is just going to magically turn it off the correct defense for this is oh I didn't make much of a difference. Go on. It didn't really matter. Yeah, that's the correct defense Not it was better to destroy the panel and walk through instead of walking around You might even be able to say he dude. He just had this big fight. He hasn't been fighting like for reasons He's stressed out. Yeah, he probably should have walked around it But you know, he just thought fuck it like destroy it and lasers it, you know, it was a quick thing Yeah, it's not that you know, who cares and you should be like, yeah, okay fair enough, but instead you're like, no, it makes sense Shut up. Yeah, you're like bra. Well, it's not it's not even that it's like bra It makes sense to destroy it like how can you be so Like cock sure when you're so wrong fries that they're not arguing He only destroys it because he hates the empire Yeah, that would have been legitimately would have been better Like then it's easier this way. So yeah, these are the episode two Comments now how the hell was Kenobi planning on training and protecting luke if he let his own skills go to complete shit? Yeah Think about it Like, oh, well he got locked off from the force like well That doesn't mean he should be shit with the lightsaber does it because if that was like involuntary That he's like taken away from the force, which like I said, I don't feel has been justified But whatever why the hell is he like flimpy with his little lightsaber? He's like if only I had done manual labor for a living I could have kept my strength up a little bit because all through episode one and two We were constantly asking like why isn't he using the force because we had no indication that he'd cut himself off from it And anyway, we had no clue It doesn't seem like it's something that he was okay with you know because like luke activates it again in In TLJ meanwhile, Kenobi is like desperately trying to access it to save Leia Especially when yeah when he knows what mission he has to do and like after describing what it feels like It doesn't make any sense and you start to wonder is it because they needed to nerf him? Is that the reason? That's actually a good theory His stupidity certainly takes care of that But it's weird that they would nerf him that way when they know that the force is something that people like to see Yeah, they could just have made him incompetent like they did Well, they could have given him a hard challenge to beat that's all That's the way you do it Leia calls Obi-Wan a Jedi Obi-Wan don't call me that it draws too much attention Also, Obi-Wan refers to her as a princess Yeah, don't worry about it. It's fine. He also referred to her as Leia in front of stormtroopers This show feels like missing a long deceased friend Miraculously, he returns from the grave and you just overjoyed to hear his voice again However, as you see the differences in his mannerisms, you begin to suspect they may not be who you thought However, you've missed them so much that you just don't want to come to terms with the fact That there's a monster masquerading as your friend That's just franchise Yeah, that's all of them smart enough to psychoanalyze Obi-Wan and her older cousin dumb enough to say make me float In front of everybody too. She starts demanding him do it Such an incredible level of stupidity that you just sort of sit here like oh no, why? And then he did make her float Whoa Leia saying I don't trust you even though you broke into a place as being held a great risk to yourself Release me said you knew my father and don't you don't try to manhandle me And at the same time she says we should totally trust this random stranger Who just so happens to have a solution to our problem Which would be of incredible risk to himself. Why are you so suspicious Kenobi? Yeah, she's so smart though. He's a very smart Yeah, that's why she's a very smart girl of 10 years old She's going to be a great warrior one day They do characterize it by the time we hit episode three as someone who maybe trusts a little too much or something You're like, oh, okay, but it's like but she didn't trust Kenobi It's like why didn't she it's like well it created some some tension some drama a little bit of a chase Everyone's favorite moment. This is probably true at this point The Empire should immediately know Bailogana as a traitor. Yeah It's kind of over for him We said like the whole problem with getting Kenobi involved and this this is more so if he is recognized You could get away with it if he's secret throughout the entire thing That's going to be tough But he's recognized almost instantly because he's terrible at his job. Yep work for that Yeah, but no that he's actually trying to stay hidden when they're like We've got to hire you because you're the one that knows the the stuff and it's like no That's the reason you don't hire him. That's the reason you keep him the fuck away from you This entire thing is stupid in a new hope layers message starts with general Kenobi years ago You serve my father in the clone wars now He begs you to help him in his struggle against the empire That is not the thing you'd say to the dude you had an adventure with when you were a kid Unless at the end of this mess Kenobi coblows her with a load of what weird forget stuff drug Which would be funny. I suppose I wouldn't put it past him. I really wouldn't nobody should disagree with this Shit. Her message is weird now with this continuity added on. Yeah It's so distant because of the fact that it implies that she's never met Ben herself Or she's got a very thin relationship with him and it's like respectful. I've seen people say like no, it's a diplomatic message It's not like done as a friend. It's done as an important business like thing And it's like It's a secret message meant for him like it would be more friendly than this The fact that this is general Kenobi That definitely makes it feel more like a very strange referring to a past character It implies that bail told her that's his title because that's what bail knew him as in the clone wars And he didn't know him beyond that really. Yeah, that's why it sets an idea in people's heads and they are fucking with it Stop it put it down. Stop trying to squeeze these shows into every gap that you could find like this This brick wall don't need no mortar. I promise it's fine the way it was We went alone. Stuck so many things to it. A city government employee before the planet gets locked down All signals in and out are blocked 20 minutes later. Obi-Wan after the planet gets locked down I sent a message to your father So Obi-Wan was lying to Leia or did the writers just forget the one line They put into explain why he couldn't be lying to the ship he was tracking. You're in die. You know All signals in and out are blocked. I let your parents know you're safe We'll be back in the palace back to normal by nightfall That's a really great question because we didn't pick that up but both of those quotes are accurate That's what he says all signals are blocked, but he gets a message to bail question mark The signal jammers are as talented at their job as the writers of the show are at theirs Probably I would need to check the actual context. Maybe he meant like a message before this happened or something I just don't remember because we comment on it. He says I sent a message to your father that You're safe and then we were all like she's not safe. You're on the run right now Right. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so you must have sent it after he grabbed it though as the commenter pointed out I suppose you just have to head canon that he's lying to her Yeah, they're fucking up the plot line again big time The reason Obi-Wan went to tata wean was because veda would never go back there making it the perfect place to hide In other words, the whole reason Obi-Wan is on tata wean to begin with is because he knows veda slash Anakin is alive The people right in star wars don't know shit about it I have heard that apparently the idea is veda would never return to tata wean So as to not go anywhere near his like his roots and to quote-unquote bring Anakin out in any way shape or form To stay as veda might have brought Anakin out to put Obi-Wan in the flames Well, um, I guess the idea being that they really are like almost two different modes of operation but uh With that Moment. Yeah, I mean it's it feels like you I don't know Maybe some some people do say that Anakin was gone as soon as he was dubbed veda by uh So it's a Darth veda thing to want to burn him. I guess so Darth veda thing going on there because it's funny because a lot of people are like, uh He's not the veda from the ot because he's literally not the veda from the ot he's still nine years from that and it's like It's been 10 though. It's been 10 years. Let's put it this way I would expect now that he's a lot closer to who he was in the ot than who he was in the pre-polls dreams obviously Yeah, I don't know how Darth Vader in like the latter half, you know, I feel like he would have already kind of reached a place that we Know he's in or close to it. Anyway What if they make a veda show That shows actually this does make sense because he becomes Probably gonna happen. Oh, yeah, it seems like it makes sense Thor 11 thunderscreen writer jennifer katyn robinson has revealed that michael waldron Multiverse of madison loki is writing the script for an x-man project Oh, we're fucked. Oh Yeah First madness writing here's x-men. I wish I would get I mean, hey look right whatever I was gonna say like it might be because because they make like an x-men. Uh, they're doing the reboot of the 90s animated show That's like look, all right. If we're gonna I guess pick your poison Which is it? Maybe I want to be all poisoned. I want to be rewarded for being so shared all the time Well, I guess it is as far as marvel is concerned loki was a resounding success as it was multiverse Advice as well It's um It's funny because the throne room fight I think that's the only thing I really complimented probably in my first video Um, but it's just because I saw it once and saw it quickly But uh, yeah that fucking scene for viewing so embarrassing Uh, I'll repeat viewings And I suppose it makes sense to show that one first because then it fuels My attitudes in this one Oh boy It looks like a combination of metal and j Oh, you guys look so tired That's me right now. That's how I feel at the moment. The guy just I've strapped for yin presumably both of you. Oh, yeah Oh my god, let us go Rags, I've never seen a drawing of you in which you look so fucking I look very old and weary This is what Star Wars does to you So the people think the grinding quiz is dead The writer joby harald says as you know, we would never break canon. So that's all I'll say canon is everything Oh, I'll just say that Obviously the idea there being like he's not dead We wouldn't we wouldn't break canon but the idea that like wait, but all you do is break You guys break you constantly. What do you mean? You just portrayed his not death in the most deathy way that you basically could It would have been so much fun if she chopped his head off and they were like we wouldn't break canon. He's coming back Okay, why not? Yeah He has a familiar with that of the character. We don't seem very much. He's uh sporting a different hat this time Oh, that's gonna be really useful on tattooing. That's true And I I think this I can respect him more with this one. I can see the purpose behind it. This is practical. Yeah This has some use It's also a lightsaber proof that hat and it's perfect for pride month. I would say Is this an umbrella or a parasol? Well, that's a good question because I think the the way that it looks Matches more an umbrella. So maybe it is for the rain rather than the sun Um, but it might double up Because you think on tattooing you'd have parasols not Yeah, I uh, you know, maybe Maybe this is a this is a falsehood. Maybe this is shopped and they put a water one On a man who clearly would need the sun one. Yeah, they meant. Yeah. Yeah, that's the trickery is they put an umbrella hat On someone who needs to have a parasol hat Just remember inspect a gadget the movie Inspect the one with uh, Matthew Broderick. Yeah, this is a little flying hat machine Oh, that's inspector gadget. Yeah Oh go gadget flight He's cool. I hope we see more of him My favorite character. You know what with that we can finally play the episode This is where he told us to come to Oh, yeah, remember how he was meant to just white and he just left Oh, by the way, yeah, that's the one I it was probably worth me clarifying in the other recordings When I said like he hasn't lied to you yet I was referring specifically the fact that he told you to get onto this ship And it would take you to this planet away from like the danger of the inquisitors and it did and he's like Not everybody tells the truth liar. It's like he did Literally do all remaining probes. I'll remove the three the three probes. They sent out Yeah, they hadn't sent them yet when that's their only fucking purpose Especially Kenobi, which if you remember Darth Vader said Kenobi is all that matters now Something like that. Yeah, not running the empire. I don't know the the empire man This is really more of a side project. We gotta build more probes. We only have the three in the empire You don't wonder how much we would put F into that if we were making one of these shows Like getting the empire to actually look like it had some use and the people cared that it was in power In a good way What you made me You should have just shot Darth Vader, honestly Are you the one I'm supposed to meet I'll take you from here the corpse over there like I know when they edited it up that they made it look so stupid That's got rid of the corpse Who's saying yes, I'm the one you should meet up to why did why would she not get rid of the corpse? Fuck it. It doesn't matter Whatever is the corpse this was here what I got here. I don't know who's it is He's a dangerous part of town. There's just corpses around the place. You gotta be good out of the uh One of them told us that um that little low level into the intro are they just changing it all the time like I mean, I like the renders. They look nice It's a cool little intro. It's just a shame that what it's what's happened to the series to it True I don't like the intro. I hate it. Whoa wrong Have like all those burn bubbles over your skin stuff. Oh, yeah, look at that arm Oh, there's like a little bit of soot on his face A little bit of just throw him in the back to pool. He'll be fine full heel That's amazing how you guys got him out of there with Darth Vader 20 feet away in all those stories Yeah, he's like, how did you do that? They're like, you know Well, because that was where the end of the set was so they couldn't go around it because Also the episode ended so they couldn't chase him after that. No, yeah, there's no way Wow, that's fucked. Oh schnizzle. We at like the rebel We are taking them to the rebels. Yeah, are those rebels or just a spaceport? I'd assume it's the rebels, right? Oh Oh, that would be so fucking funny. Give us the flashback do it. Oh, look parallel That's really clever Look at his arm. Look at it's gone. But yours isn't that's your fault. You look pretty good to all the things consider I don't know how long he was in the fire. Oh, I mean it can't hurt, right? I guess it can hurt. Yeah Oh, what you've been telling me is having even he's not having a fun time. Yeah. Oh, why am I naked? Oh, yeah We're on jabeem. You're saying I like jabeem. You're on jabeem. What are you dunking me in? He's a traitor. I am a Backflip into the room. You have no rights here princess The empire doesn't take kindly to jedi sympathize. He will come for me So they know it's that bad with jedi Leia organa has connections to jedi like she's done And you still see leia is the person who was being rescued by the jedi So you can't blame a 10 year old truly She plays she plays dumb as fuck in a new hope about all of this the imperial senate will not steal for this I'm a member of the imperial senate on a diplomatic mission to alderaan I warned on any mercy mission this time several transmissions were beamed the ship by rebel spies How could she do that when they already know that she talks to jedi? Yeah, oh, yeah, you're right first transport out of here too many people are looking for you You put us all in danger. I need your help a smart person. I'm sorry, but that's not my problem Well, I wish that were true. How is he arguing that leia? I have no, I don't know who this is I don't know who this guy is, I don't know Hello there, it's me mauler from the editing bay It would seem our intrepid cast here just missed what is honestly a very quiet line from the scene in question Well, I wish that were true She knows everything Let me play that one more time but boosted. Well, I wish that were true She knows everything So, you see leia is indeed everyone's problem because she knows about this base the organization and all of its secrets She knows everything The fucking 10 year old was told the ins and outs of the highly illegal and dangerous guerrilla operations of the proto rebel alliance And her capture means that information is at risk If only they didn't share all their secrets with a 10 year old who was likely even younger when this bullshit began You see, we all assume in the watch through that she wouldn't have much of any useful information because that would make the most sense But once again by talking over the episode. We miss elements that make it so much fucking worse. Okay, bye I can't lose her You've no idea what the empire is capable of. Yeah, we do. Surely you do. They're a huge massive space army Wife split the hairs and a wife once. She got killed by the empire. We tried to hide it And the inquisitors found her anyway Why can't you just hide it though and never use it? So I know exactly what the empire can do The empire fucking slaughtered loads of children. This is not a surprise like that Look, if you want my help You got it. Why? Why did you kill her? I thought he was- I thought he was outside saying the empire you can't beat him. I didn't expect you to just flip like that You don't need to make your episode 40. You can make it longer You can make it longer This is streaming. You don't need to make it You could have had everyone explain what she means to him and how much- Wait, so he's got it. They've got a map of the inquisitor base. Okay That's helpful. No, they just said they didn't know how far down it goes. I think what is this? This is just like a picture from the outside We need to find a way inside. We're not soldiers. Those speeders are for hauling sewage. She's 10 years old That's not an excuse, Ben That doesn't change any of the facts that she's 10. I'll go with him I have officer clearance. Is your cover still intact? We'll find out soon enough. No No, no It is impossible for your cover to be intact impossible There's no way It was a stretch when she first arrived back at the town with Kenobi. It is impossible now It's gone. So we're just going to the space immediately. Well, uh, he's using the force He's got a practice because he's so bad at it. He's so Kenobi is really shit at the force now guys. I just want to know why Your body's not the only thing that needs to heal Ben. The past is a hard thing to forget and you just need time That's all some things can't be forgotten. I'm glad you were able to share that nugget with him We you know the relationship these characters have built up is just so meaningful. This is what I mean They've been through such so much Was he not training like to make sure that he was ready to fight if he needed to Didn't I have that scene in like rebels when he like destroys doth mole like in an instant because he was so Prepared for like anything dude at the end of the season. He'll get a big boost by gone, right? That's off to it. Yeah, right. Okay What do you think that she could tell you? They ripped it off the wall. They didn't just take a picture Maybe shouldn't have written all these names on the walls when you were there Yeah, that's what I brought up in the episode. I was like, oh, shit It's like a ledger of everyone who's moved through here To death on the poosa Jabid and the poosa left him If you tell me where the path is you can go home to your family this Can I'll be over I mean You bumped into this woman next to a dead guy like come on. Also, aren't you evil? What would she know about any of this? Yeah, what would you expect her to know? She's 10. How much would they tell her? She knows everything Why don't you just use the force to extract knowledge from her? Yeah, oh Damn it jay. That's right. You could just do that. Well the thing we were bitching about before we watched this episode And it's already a problem. Yeah, but Leia Wait show it show her try show her try and fail. She should try. Yeah, man. That's how you know what she's like Oh, well, I was about to say she might be able to resist it, but then I was like, but she's 10 though like Did I don't have like air traffic control with this thing? You could just show up here at the base at this point Well her clearance is still intact. Maybe someone checked and they're like, yeah, you're good. You can still come I'm so glad you survived. We found the squad that you were They were all dead. They're all shot in the back. Yeah, that's kind of weird. I actually have to clear past you serious This looks like something Hey, I was for identification. There you go. You fuck Finally see now, please. You're done. Yeah, that's over there. I think squad was killed and you're missing. Yep Yeah, nice bread. That's not good We've confirmed you have a face you can pass You look very nervous. I guess not This isn't your sector I can't let you through And you are I am the lead security on this level Then I'm your commanding officer and you will address me. That doesn't mean anything You can't come through. Perhaps I should just inform the grantingquisitor of your insolence No, you have protocols. That's not insolence. That's the point of having a rule If that's a thing, then why did he even bother stopping her at all? This is so stupid It's more a high just anyone where a high ranking uniform would be like i'm in charge of you. Let me in Yeah, why bother with any of it? What was that? That was nothing Why even have the scene? Why even have the scene just let her get to her To make us feel that she triumphantly managed to silver tongue her way past it was like no The scene would be even more tense if uh, she accidentally referred to lair halfway through Really? Oh, man, he's just gone for a big old swim with these fish And we joked about that in the last episode. We joked about obiwot and swearing We did, yeah Man, can you imagine one of those fishes just decided to swim by like what are you talking about here, buddies? Like what's going on guys? Just imagine obiwot and swearing by like Send out the probes That's actually a good point rags. How deep is he because like it's not just about air You know like you didn't bring goggles The jedi he uses the force to reduce I don't like that little creature. I don't I'm not fun. Yeah He's a he's a spooky starfish. Reminds me of the barnacles in Half-Life. I was about to say that too. Yeah He didn't shoot that's good Oh, you drowned him Yes, also no camera. He's just he just can't move when he's wet. Oh, yeah, okay. She's trying. Oh, yeah There we go. You can't do shit all that would be impactful because it would fuck with cannon too much. So Yeah, there you go. Yeah, she's strong willed. There you go. And you have no training Why why would she have that? What? This is the second time She can't see that. Yeah, why would what was it? What was it planned to do? What was the plan? Please destroy this little fucking droid think like a writer. Why would this have happened? I had a droid when I was younger too It was taken from me Like everything else parallels. Yeah, she's I had a droid too when I was younger No, I think that's gonna be relevant for something Why are you whispering weirdly? What up? I'm just like it'd be funnier for playing like music He's just hanging out the whole time. She shouldn't have been able to keep that droid and it shouldn't have attacked her like that but No, what was it's planning to do bunker on the head? Like oh, he's a higher rank. Uh-oh come with me If you're suspicious enough to do this to somebody. Whoa, was I here attacking him? I heard a sound of like a punch I did too but like Closed right before I wanted to check it out. That's weird. I'm gonna just open this door. Yeah, just open the door I don't like it with the closed doors in me. Okay Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right Oh, wow right here like they're like two meters away. There's there was a bunch of people if he screams Yeah, he's I think it's enough that they were making those noises you turn around Yeah, what the fuck those two not see him. He was standing right there It's not gonna be a very long hallway How is this happening? There's people right there And then the jury sitting next to him was like right, so I guess your idea is cool Is your idea cool? Oh, I love that Did you hear my voice come through the radio there? Okay, but why wouldn't she be speaking more? Yeah? Why wouldn't she be saying Ben? Maybe they're hiding behind these things. I just turned it off. Maybe Oh, it's just like in a new home Over there What was that? Nice So we're so glad the plot allows him to have the force when he needs it. It'd be funny if it's like, oh, shit I dropped my phone. Hold on Is everyone just gone from this room? It's just her now, but he's just like chilling out just behind that And the one who was next to her so that's three now I don't feel that this is bad enough to turn off normies I'm waiting for the thing that turns off the people who were into this show up until now. Yeah She's strong enough to call the inquisitor from her mind this untrained 10 year old Yes, she's got to convince her the regular way Tell me where they are. I'll have to tell my father first That's okay, right? He said we're all on the same side. Nice tribe princess. I hope you like pain I'll never tell you where they are. You will you're 10. They're gonna start doing terrible things Oh, no the yeah, oh, it's the hunts all over. Yeah We don't have a child-sized torture table. We need yeah No, don't worry. It'll still hurt like when you guys drag the screaming child up to the torture device Do you ever wonder about your jobs? Oh, they've got jedi frozen in I guess man My first question would be can I free them? Do they dead? He looks very sad. It's a tomb Oh, he said a tomb, but they're probably dead I don't know. I don't think that he's had enough time to confirm that. Yeah, I thought they were frozen Maybe he knows without the goo is Okay, we're gonna hurt you. This is a fucking child, but okay. I'm not gonna kill me. I'm just gonna He's gonna see someone he recognizes I don't know who that is Maybe someone from the chlorine walls Maybe they're gonna redeem this lady. Good luck. Yeah Yeah, like she's doing that an evil person should do but like She's evil So that you know Just do it now Um, thanks. I can't believe these guys are just here Fuck off. Wait, what is this? What? You did this to yourself for the 10 year old? How did you do that so fast? You were just here because she must have called them to say that but like still that was fast as hell also Wow, this is risky. I was stationed on repuso when the hunt began ranking officer qualifications for discharge That man before I unless of course Yeah, exactly Yeah, I mean it's about time pretty convenient that you just have this information for me right now. Oh, come on Well, they're baseball bats with disney, aren't they? Oh, okay. Oh my god. They really are baseball bats with disney Um, yeah, there's no cameras in here. Oh wow. All of that's just they don't need any keys. That just comes off Yes, you just been totally compromised Just use force mine stuff force flume Yeah, it's really useful. You've been totally compromised. You haven't gone to it Why why wouldn't revered right now be like wait? Why'd you you lured me? Oh, shit You're right. Yeah, if if you've concluded this woman is evil that you should be wondering about your prison Don't admit you're a spy. Oh That was I spent two years undercover. I promise you He's on the floor. I love how like it's never acknowledged that when the doors are open There could just be someone looking right at it. Oh, yeah, every single time Oh, how did you miss this? Oh, do they have to destroy it or else it'll send a signal instead of it doing that automatically Because this star wars and it's dumb take her to interrogation. Oh just do it here Yeah Yeah, there it is. It's him What how the fuck did that happen? Well, you know Well, so she should she's done What what No, man, this is why did you throw there was a third person in that room? Where did the third person go? Why is he good with this again all of us? I'm so confused Wait because he needs to be for the blog. Oh, wow Wow Oh god It's so bad The most incompetent organization in all She might you might want to run just saying uh, no that would look less intimidating hide. Where? Also Right, so to be fair they're shooting to kill on both of these guys. Yeah, is that not is that the plan for the empire? Wait, sorry Too much stuff is happening too quickly. Was something cracking. Yeah Why did that start cracking because uh It reflected a blaster. Yeah one blaster bolt has Compromised the entire Just run. It's no point in doing this dude. If the place is that fragile Oh, you guys don't want to open that don't open it. Yeah. Yeah seal it He's really good at the force. Oh, yeah. He's a real good person now Imagine the pressure that's there. Oh, he's got the breather thing. So I guess he's going to let the water in It's gonna I know Yeah, Kenobi, you won't be able to outrun this by the way Aim better. Oh, you can do it while you're deflected this out too Oh So he's gone No, that didn't make any sense Oh, man, that didn't make any sense. Yeah, no, that's he broke all the other gloss as well. That's Also, I guess these doors are rated. Oh, they're already dead. Oh Yeah, I guess they die. They can't show them suffocating. That would look too bad Also, those doors aren't equipped to be What He's so No way, he's a bearded trench coat wearing captain. Fuck off legs This is actually really this is really happening. Wow. Oh, thank Jesus Yeah, they're like, wait, what's going on? Obi-Wan Kenobi, by the way, everybody you can't stop this many shots Wow the timing on this They flew very close to those doors in the back. I feel like they Yeah Yeah, well, of course, none of them could shoot. Why, why would they? Why are you shot in the mousetrap? Go river. She's the only person that can survive the scene. So It's a bit of an awkward run. Why so Tony? She's a force. Is she gonna jump onto it? How can you block those massive Stationery Wow, okay, sorry, wait, I thought we got another ray Holy shit, man Oh, you look bad What was this? God damn All of those You Yeah, fuck her up Are you following them Yeah, send fighters after there are loads of fighters don't do the station. That's a good point I put a tracker on the ship soon the location of the network and can only So that's a lie, right? That's a lie. Oh, we didn't we didn't see it put it on the droid, right? That's it. Yeah, you got it. That's it. That's the reason she got the fucking droid. That's the reason But surely like you're still mad you fail His orders to her explicitly were obi-wan. Kenobi is all that matters now Yeah, well, you wouldn't need to track her if you used all those ships You have to just fucking follow them. They're right here Why even bother putting a tracker on her when you had her in the middle of a secure facility? I didn't have any more ships after them. Did you know they'd escape? Did you want that happen? I assume they won't even be checking her for the potential of trackers as well I just realized that's the new hope thing that Vader does. You're sure the Hermione beacon is secure aboard their ship I'm taking an awful risk Vader This is better work But they've made it so that Riva came up with that plan earlier than him now Are they implying that that's where he got the inspiration for that was Riva? He's not- I mean it's the exact same plan Jesus Christ except hers requires more casualties Idiotcy Yeah, it was Wade Man, I'm really feeling the loss of Wade. Yeah, Wade was my favorite. Oh, yeah poor Wade that guy I'm glad to speak the same. I knew what to say When I addressed him We've been through so much Wade and uh, Wade and us. Yeah, I think we're not we're not there yet What is the thing that made everybody mad because I can't see it. There's got to be something else I think it was Obi-Wan getting out of the trench coat. Yeah, I think that was too much That's that's Vespa level. I could totally see people reacted on that Uh, oh look at how far we've come Remember she was pretty cold to him in episode two, but in episode four they have connected Someone died because of this high five How can you be showing this and then have her say like general Kenobi are offended by dad? Fuck off You clearly just made this shit up. This didn't happen. It's a little bullshit. They put a tracker on you or anything Oh, here it comes. Here it comes. Here it comes. Dun dun dun dun dun Oh In order to make the tracker you have to swap him to evil robot Oh, dude, I would have been surprised like the original probably had it so that they just showed the droid Then someone they was like, no, we gotta have a red light on it. How will they know it's evil? How will they know it's evil? Yeah, that was terrible. That was awful. Oh, yeah I can't believe how much they actually managed to accomplish in terms of stupid though Like well, this is the thing. Would you say this or three is worse? Damn like that trench coat thing Yeah, that's uh, that was funny as fuck. I'm very happy that that happened They had the balls to actually film that that is incredible I do what I say And it didn't there was no reason for it to be that dumb. I think in terms of which is worse I think three is worse for characters. This is worse for logic All they had to do is get like a stormtrooper with like a big equipment bag and have then There'll be one wearing the stormtroopers armor and laying in the bag But remember so easy It wasn't it they put like a box on top of bb8 to cover him up in in tlj That was still kind of stupid because it's just a moving box Which doesn't really make much sense. But you're right. Get some kind of container A bin even and put her in it and put that on wheels. Yeah exactly like like you belong there It looks like um austin powers. Do you remember the one he's he's he's on top of many me? Hello, you're right. Yes. It's a good hat. Very good hat Yeah, that shit's fucking hilarious I when would rever have had an opportunity to put the bug on the little drawing montage cut But leia also has the droid. So did she like grab it on the way out? How did she have it? I don't remember I think think about you have leia in custody in prison Everything and you would have had to beforehand put the tracker on the robot knowing that Make it evil I was gonna say it's it's more so making it evil than putting anything on it So you have to make it the turn the robot evil and turn it into the the tracker device And then you would have to do that under the assumption that someone would Yeah prison facility and be able to leave unless she just presented as a contingency But it really seemed like she wasn't like she didn't want them to escape. This is like a last ditch Yes, somehow she convinced vader. This was part of the plan which he should be able to pull right out of her Well, I mean he should be able to tell that that's not when it's like, dude Like did you what what do you mean that's part of the plan? Yeah, look you planned you planned Why the hell would she have turned it into a tracker unless she did think they were going to escape which she absolutely didn't She didn't want them to escape. Exactly. Yes. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all You can just force extract that information from the light. No. Oh, yeah. Well. Yeah, you can do that. Can't you? So there's no reason to so rub is done. It's over like she's she's finished again She can't be killed because she's not she's got purpose of this season She's still got a couple more episodes left before she's probably gonna get killed I imagine she's not surviving this series, but she'll make it to the end really think they're gonna try and reduce still Yeah, uh, oh you do. Yeah, cuz I think that is one of the uh, the younglings that we saw in that opening, uh sequence Um, so there's got there's more story there that we know I think it's the same thing we said since like episode whatever that she's gonna There's that leak where she'll she'll be the one to spare loop. Yeah Yeah, and and also we had that uh, that conversation she was having with Leia, um, like it felt like there was an implication of Oh, well, there's there's more there's more story here that we still need to tell they've only got two episodes to tell it But it's terribly done. But when she's about to start up the torture It looks like the actress puts on a face for a moment of like, I really don't want to do this I think yeah child. Oh, no That's what i'm saying It's just like you're not doing good enough because she should just not do it at all Well, because she already committed to a course of action. That's reprehensible. Yeah, it's gonna be really hot And also she's she's killed lots of people. She's done a lot of bad things It's gonna be really hard to give her the redempt It's probably not gonna be like a full redemption. I think it's gonna be one of those like, uh, well, you know Like it's a good decision. Yeah, I think that's what which I mean, that's the best you can do Remember though. Yeah, that's the impression I get we're told like someone because there'll be comparisons to vader Everyone will do that. They'll be like, what's he gonna redeem? They'll just be like, okay, so she's doing so much that vader has done as well I think I've talked about this in one of the other parts, but um really gonna depend on how she ended up here He ended up where he was because he got seduced by power And he wanted to save the life of his loved one and it all drew him into like this You know complete understanding and of the jedi trying to take over the world There's a lot of little things manipulations lies and then a desire for power that is broken by his love for his family Comes through on that moment But we've always said he would be tried for war crimes if he was to have made it back to end or absolute way Meanwhile, rever like you're gonna have to tell me why she became an inquisitor Why she is so stalwart in whatever systems they have provided because she seems so on board with fucking killing people No, it was Kenobi specifically as well, right? Yeah, and we're not gonna have the time Like Darth Vader got six movies She's gonna have two episodes at most to tell us what because remember her being like I used to have a droid was like, okay Maybe uh, uh, maybe episode five will be like the rever episode the one that gives us all the information Well, I don't know if they got time though. Like I was gonna say Kenobi needs time too Well because episode five will probably end with the the rebel base getting like attacked So then episode maybe it's just we don't have a lot of time And it feels like we've wasted a lot of time And also just not made use of time that we have because this is a streaming show You didn't need to make the episode like 30 minutes Oh, there's so much padding for a 30 minute episode to the amount of time it takes to just in hallways walking around Yeah, you know, why do they have a Jedi tomb down there? It's just for fucking worlds. I'm gonna put those in You'd think they would erase them right so I can look at the corpses You'd think they want them to be removed. They want their culture to be literally zapped off the fucking universe's history Why would they keep the bodies on display? It's fucking weird and there's no one around to see it. Yeah You can't very empty station. They have there. Yeah, that didn't really go anywhere the whole they have the It could just be this like look how evil they are Because then they had the child at the end which was like I'm surprised they weren't that edgy, right like because they just to show a child's corpse frozen in amber, right? It's it's more edgy than they Why would things can't you cut off as well? It really surprises me that the one thing they sensed was the guy being hanged Yeah, but I guess that's easier to censor in retrospect. Also to be fair One could argue that these are just suspended animation. They're not dead or something who knows Assuming their dad is I don't get it I think that my brain went to No, I think it's reasonable that they could be dead, but you're right But could we should have clarified that I should be like is this like what is the state of them right now? It may be imagine one button press release them like carbonite. Yeah. Yeah Well, there was that one Mandalorian episode where the they had like some experiment going on. What was that about where they had? Oh, yeah, it's it's like a it's a bait for the first order and snook and stuff I think because they were grabbing Jedi DNA. That could be what this is Yeah It is one of the younglings in the uh, the opening That's why they let him keep that goofy ass helmet on I was gonna say that's the helmet the younglings wear I'm guessing that there may be like some sort of story that there's still more story there with This character specifically and probably connection to rever that would be that's that would be my guess It's just we've got a lot of threads that are still sort of there that haven't been resolved yet So there's still but it feels like there's a lot more that they need to figure out than the Time that they actually have to do it We always talk about how pathetic it is how stupid and worthless they make the empire But Jesus christ this episode was just a new fresh hell Of how can you ever be afraid of the empire anymore? You're never afraid of them because they're just the biggest idiots who are totally incompetent at everything Well, they've got people saying now that that is consistently the empire. They are dumb Oh, they're not they're not look how many Jedi they captured that means they're good at it. No That was needed for plot reasons. So that doesn't count. No, it was just talking about how they didn't need that for plot reasons to show all of the amber and Like that's gonna be plot reasons They're gonna say in Mandalorian season three finale that a snoke is being made as a result of all the amber Jedi How you even got here without being shot down kilometers and kilometers back is Astounding there should be this is the h2 turrets and rockets. Yeah Yeah, like you shouldn't be able to get within orbit of this planet without a million sensors going off This is ridiculous. So they just fly in like can you guys do me a favor and because like I don't remember hearing Basically any of the dialogue when they were planning on taking out the quiz the base and I'm curious if there's any nuggets in there It's fader there. We don't think so Our intel shows he's still in the ship. He's lucky. He's close. Yeah Your intel you have intel that can tell you where Darth Vader is It's impenetrable Wade. How far down do you think it goes? I was worried. I have no idea. It's impenetrable They said it's impenetrable. I don't see any shields. That's because no one would be stupid enough That's because this isn't the real thing There are no shields because people would be too it would be stupid to even try and attack So they don't have shields because nobody would be willing to attack it. What? That's not how this works. That's not how military targets work No one would be stupid enough to attack her army. We won't have defenses. That's not a We have so many soldiers, but we don't need any guns because nobody would attack somebody Oh, that's so painful By the way, the two pilots uh, when he says like, oh, yeah Fly in with you your ship to come and pick us up They say that they're like not soldiers and they don't know how to fight. It's like, man, you're good at it Like when you Weren't expected to come then by the sounds of it doesn't sound like a doubt. Yeah, it's just a miracle that they decided to come and arrive at the last Okay, so it is what I thought then. Yeah This is insanely stupid. None of this makes sense There's no shields because no one would be dumb enough to attack Well, what if someone tried to attack? If they don't have shields people will attack it When someone did come an attack that were incredibly effective But what if someone just like bombed it and then left? Well, apparently they don't even have any air force floating around No, because nobody would be dumb enough to attack. Would they know? Yeah, it's really so if we have an extremely valuable military target and it has no shields No anti air cannons. No orbital defenses. No radar. No one will attack it They'd be so intimidated Was a single blaster bolt That's that that was actually something. Yeah, I wanted to talk about that So like, you know in a lot of movies when they're in like spacecraft and there's a gun a lot of characters will just be like We can't don't fucking shoot because if it hits the hull like, you know that sort of attitude That's not present at all here Even though it's one blaster bolt to bring down the fucking station. Yeah, plus Like surely it's this high security station Surely you shouldn't be able to fuck it up with one one shot And there should be blast shields that should come down the second that uh, there's integrity loss Yeah, like a spaceship once the whole branch is detected the next door is they just they shut automatically There's nothing that can stop that they have to shut like it's a it's a mechanical necessity of their design Exactly. They have to shut off Well, how absurd as well that like he manages to break it open in such a way that it pours in From all the pressure outside and then it like shows them get hit by it shows it slam the wall And then it cuts to him beginning to run away. It's like no, you're done. You're already done Got his force powers and uh sword skills. They're all back up to top notch just like that I mean, yeah, very meaningful ten minutes before he went to the facility. He couldn't move a little Plastic nut across the table That's the problem free you can think of a high pressure situation when veda was grabbing you Yeah, oh, I thought you meant like the ocean pressure the water pressure when he says just saving layer That's what he cares about. You know, he doesn't care about saving his own life He cares about saving the child who was annoying Wrong because he's supposed to care about luke. Yeah, but no no no his own life doesn't matter And he doesn't have like he doesn't have object permanence. He's forgotten about luke It's just it's it's incompetence at every every room no cameras worthless troopers No one checks anything. No one looks at anything. Let me in because I'm insistent. Oh, yeah And then nobody hears anything that happens with her beating up the captain That was pretty incredible I'm just imagining the person you made that reddit post defending all the things that happened in the previous episode like Fuck, please stop. No Why you're not doing me any favors here Because like dude, how fucking like validating would it feel if you do an argument with that guy the last week And then this week you see the fucking trench coat scene and you're like I told you That's as red as a dog. We can see Darth Vader's quite upset that our obi-wan escaped. He's pretty unhappy with that. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right Yeah, so he doesn't want him to just run the fuck. Yeah, he was wrong. You're right. He was wrong That's where is actually what did you say when uh, obviously he let obi-wan go jesus christ, man Man Weird because in this scene, he was fucking pissed as hell that obi-wan left. How about that? Oh, so weird Imagine how much more angry he would be if he saw like security cam footage of a full-legged trench coat waddling away This is how they escaped is it no, he wouldn't see that because there are no cameras in this No, they're not a camera But imagine in a world where there were cameras in this high security facility It's a little bit odd Actually that they're marketed a lot ahead and christiansons back. It's like we've gone very little of like that part of the performance Doesn't matter we can still market it like that and ooh isn't that exciting watch this show It's just i'm wondering what that i'm kind of reading into it It's like so what does that mean? I mean, we're probably gonna get like a big talking Like they're probably gonna have a long conversation. Wow not a long conversation relatively long Maybe a couple of minutes like actually face-to-face. I could see that happening. I guess i'm just i'm at this point Like i'm not i mean i'm not investing this story. I'm just trying to think about like no They're gonna do and how the best place to bring Hayden christianson back is unironically post St as a ghost. Yeah Well, no poem was or clone was I guess it's just you need to de-age a bit and you know They look pretty good like both the cat the guys we need so I'm sure that it wouldn't be too much pressure to get them to just look Obi-Wan can almost get away with it would just I think basic makeup I don't even think you'd need to be oh, yeah He's I mean the beard takes care of half of it anyway plus in revenge of the set he was almost certainly playing younger Oh, sorry older than he was right. Yeah, I think so Oh, yeah, maybe a little well You'd have to be right because he kind of ages super fast in 19 years otherwise I would say I think this one takes the cake for me as the most parody like scene that we've come across There's a lot of them, but like that one. Uh, yeah, it's like it's a meme You feel like it's something that a shit family guy cut away would make a joke about that's how Hey you and the four legged man get over there Yeah, yeah Like it's not even a clever joke at this point because it's so laughable as a concept You know and like all the jokes you can make about it. They did it It's they literally did it. You've got eyes everywhere Oh It actually may have been less conspicuous to have her just walking next to them. Yeah, yeah, probably Almost certainly actually because I mean how many of these people even know what she looks like The metal gear solid thing where it is just like you've got the box on Like tell me ahead. Just walking next to them. I mean, plus, you know that she's broken out the sirens are going on You think that no one enters the leaves. How can you even get outside? No one is coming or going like Garfield. I wonder who that's for a moment of like, oh, there's a guy with four legs walking past me I wonder what that siren is about I I thought you meant it was for the audience because it's the siren noise um I remember the siren is clearly not treated like it's an actual siren. No one seems to be really in Wandering. Yeah, everyone's just sort of around going like extras wandering around in the back of a scene Like at a carnival or a fair They were just kind of wandering How incredible by the way, you're like, how did how did those those ships get in? It's like, well, we don't have shields Why well because no one would attack Well, they attacked us But why didn't we shoot them down with our many many many many cannons? Well, so we don't have cannon Yeah, because why would no one would attack this way? Yeah I don't know. What about the orbital defenses the the fleet up above that's completely undefended Why would no one why has it got that reputation? No one would attack it That's why we don't have any defenses. Which is why no one would attack There's a shit ton of stormtroopers in it though. Yeah Wow So it almost seems like right for orbital bombardment just like sending a gunship or like the the smallest gunship that could take it out It's just a bunch of bomb. It's just a bunch of infantry sitting there on with on an unshielded Oh, all right. Let's just hit it from space. It would be stupid enough to attack It's completely stationary Episode four everyone the best so far easily Oh, I mean it was the funniest. It was it was absolutely Comedy without a doubt Without a doubt what we're in for for five and six Ane. Oh, I think we're in for pain. I think the next couple episodes are going to be like really painful Suffering. Yep. Thanks for watching everybody. Goodbye. Yeah Oh my god, Jesus Drove for you to a seizure What'd you bring me? Well, hello, hi everyone Hi Kenobi episode five That's what's a good news. I'm off work tomorrow. So I can just get fucking smashed while we watch Kenobi. Whoo Why would you do that? Because I don't know maybe I shall have a single shot just to help me some it's giving courage Give I'm having some whiskey on the cock rocks. I'm gonna leave my plushie here to talk as I run away Was my plushie j. Yeah j. I don't know in the fucking mail. Mine is That's not true because it's not my prototype one is here, but my delivered one isn't here Okay, well, well j fails once again Um, so enough of enough pleasantries now. We'll talk about the horrors. So yay We have consumed Four whole episodes of this show which is actually quite a bit of it at this point. Um Such a weird world we live in where the tv shows are done almost immediately like Man well six episodes is uh short any of you guys used to like when when you were much younger watch like 22 episode shows on tv weekly. Uh, absolutely. Yeah, like that was normal. I mean 24 And that was pretty common. It's crazy to me to think now because it's just like wow, that's like four of these shows They were cranking them out like it was like we got to make this shit We got an x amount of time to make episodes. We got to go go. We got to make them So what I find interesting is there's a perceived increase in quality from less episodes per season yet this show And a lot of those disney plus shows. Yeah Have a lot less episodes and they're still not good Stuff like band of brothers would have encouraged people to think like oh when they're mini series and shorter and stuff They're much more focused. They're delivered as a story. Yeah. Yeah, breaking bad Like all the all the sort of dramas that have you know that have that good reputation And we're like serious and trying to do the serialized story like the wire and the sopranos and things like that They're the 13 episode ones. I mean dead. I was 13 episodes too. But then we decided, you know what not even Not even 15 anymore Six and also shitty writers. That's a good combination. We got there right now Because they're still making like that many episodes of star wars show a year But instead of the dividing it up into different shows They could have made like hey, here's the show that's the Between the trilogies show and like obi-wan shows up and like episode 10 and you're like, oh cool It's obi-wan. I wonder if there's budget rate is like a factor here because they're so expensive each episode That they don't want to do more than that They could have made, you know So seven episodes of book of boba fat six episodes of obi-wan and how many episodes of mando eight 20 what 22 episodes of tv that they've actually made this year if they paid that Right, they haven't that's at least within the last 365 days, right? That's right There's no mando in the last year mando is over a year. All that we've gotten is book of boba fat and this so No, oh man Star Wars fans eating good. What's up? They could have made like a 13 episode season that was with that money that was Hey, here's stuff that happened in between the trilogies It could even have been about boba fat and obi-wan. They could have both been in it. This whole um marriage or not marriage Maybe but uh tv shows combining with movies to make mini series. That's that's how I see it. Anyway, it's just like look at this It's beautiful. It's like both you get the benefits of both longer movies that are really well made and you're like, okay Cool, but then um, they're not focused at all. They they waste the fuck out of all their time We watched um a movie not long ago And one of the things that we were commenting on about it was the fact that they could spend so long with two characters Having a conversation about something to develop their relationship and how important it was and and and Kenobi like our favorite stuff was mainly just him thinking about stuff and doing things in a very like quiet and Sorted manner now. I think uh, I would be correct in saying that when he In the dare I say second portion of the first episode was done with um his meat mining or whatever I think when he got called by bail. I don't know. Um, it was it was just sad that it's like, well, that's it for that You know, it's all over now. Yeah, I think it was jay who had said that it's all it's all plot from here I hope you like that you got your five minutes of sort of character Kind of and my money is on fringy. Actually. I think he was one of that Wait, what did I say? I think we're done with the slow stuff plot's about to begin So I think it was jay who would Said that Though we'll you know, we'll get like one or two scenes in episode six or something probably It's like to remind the audience that there are characters in this show Well to pretend as though they do Yes, I'd say that is kind of interesting how it's like, yeah, we gotta hit the brakes on that character development What you've had enough character development day We gotta have we got planets to go to and lightsabers to swing and blasters to shoot We ain't got time for any of that fucking character crap. Well, what I will say is that uh Unlike the last episode which as was stated in our preamble That it got bad reviews from a lot of people who typically like the show this next one It's getting through the roof reviews from lots of people Lots of people love this one and it's like oh, right You say it get it it got bad reviews and I thought that meant it was safe to shit on it Not that that changes my mind when I'm shitting on something or otherwise, but I thought oh, this won't get any pushback Dude, you chose one of the like Worst parts of the episode the stupidest bits and you got so much trouble So much I literally posted the most conspicuously stupidest scene and I was like lol This is stupid you got in so much trouble by the way that the start of the real bvc after that Like the first stupid chat I think I saw there was someone talking about your tweet And it's just like how is this happening and it's like it became a full topic your tweet It got everywhere. Lots of people saw it. Just like why is this controversial? What's happening like we can't agree that this is stupid We're doomed if we can't agree that this is really dumb a lot of people seem to have read it Because I posted that scene with the caption for anyone who doesn't know Pictured serious production in brackets not parody And it was funny. I think a lot of people who don't have good reading comprehension Thought this meant that I was saying that like star wars has to maintain a deadly serious tone at all times And that comedy isn't allowed in the show But it wasn't comedy. It was serious. Yeah It was it was a serious scene a lot of people are insisting that no actually the scene is supposed to be funny Okay seems like a strange place It seems like a strange comedy a strange scene to choose to make a comedy scene is Hey, you know this child who's currently being rescued from a base where she was going to be tortured and like she got really close to being tortured Let's let's have an escape scene where she's uh smuggled out of that base I'm sorry. Oh, so that would be like a tense scene, right? Or maybe uh, Maybe maybe dramatic Dramatical tense those seem like intense laughter. Okay. What if we make it a comedy scene where we laugh at how stupid the scene is What if if that what if that's in between the child torture scene and the Child bonding with guy who rescued her from torture scene. What what if we put that in the middle of that? I think one of the things that you do need to consider is that I think that this scene was meant to be laughed at because it was so stupid, right? Because they needed to really build up a sense of levity before wade is killed Which is a very very serious and somber moment because you know, we all know wade and it's a really very very serious To do dramas to trick the audience into feeling they're safe and then to take someone like wade from them I thought we would be with us until the end I did to the end all the way until the end of episode nine We'd have wade. It's probably in the party. Yeah, when he died my mood went wade down I um I'm preemptively insulted because I know this is going to be the case They probably won't even mention wade in the previously Fucking unacceptable because there's going to be people who may not even know Why would you I don't even because I don't even think that they were Well, I you know what? I'm not impressed with the show so far I think they're going to make the mistake of saying nothing about wade when Like could Kenobi really have done any of this without wade? I don't think so I think that the fact I remembered wade's name. I I don't think they remembered I don't think the writers have you told them who was the guy who died in episode? and I'm so forth they'd be like, uh wane wane Dude, I love the idea like oh cathleen. I love your work with disney stowell's I think wade might be my favorite character. She'd be like, yeah Yeah Who's that? So anyway, you guys ready for Sure comment showcase Okay, this episode is going to be the one that's like through the roof Yes, right now. Yes So I think it's almost safe to assume that this is going to be a flashback episode Uh, well, I'm not going to say anything but we have been saying that would be a smart decision Forever that they should use the fucking actors they have and flash out things that require it in the prequel era And just do something that every fan would want to see I don't even mean in a way that's meaningful. I mean the standard fan service way of I want to see them in their outfits from the clone wars. I want to see them fighting droids I want to see them being friends do it So I think it might be more than that. I think they might instead of doing a flashback episode Do you like a force of vision or something? Either way the obvious thing that they were definitely going to do in this series was have aiden christensen and Unimagrega together in their like prequel costumes filming a new scene, right? And if they didn't do that, they would have been mad. They would have been insane Um, I would have thought but I would have suggested a whole prequel episode, but I don't think they would do that I think they might try to do like a force of vision Where like obi-wan is communicating with vader or something and it's um, but they're you know They they look like they used to because it's not really happening. So they have an excuse to do that So anyway Comment showcase today will have to be about episode three because four isn't out yet I can't believe it's gotten to the point where family guy gave more respect to star wars than disney does I've seen that one actually. It's true. It is so true Actually true. Um, most people even say like blue harvest is worth seeing. It's like fun I think blue harvest is great. Um, the other one's not too much, but blue harvest was cool American dad to do the fanta menace American dad do the preples They said the cleveland show Okay, fringy the difference there is that the cleveland show is bad and america is good What i'm saying is that that was the gag at the end of um, yeah It's crap. It's like, yeah, I think the cleveland show is gonna do those. Who's gonna do the preples now then? Not the preples I would watch I would watch american dad do the fucking sequels in a heartbeat. Oh god. Yeah, that'd be fun Absolutely, given konobi buried his lightsaber the god he can do mine tricks Can't fight to save his life and essentially let his command of the force atrophy I can only assume his plan to protect luke was to spend 19 years practicing a wide variety if animal screams To scare off any potential threat. He's got a great jar jar one prepared for vader Oh, annie, it's you imagine if vader shows up and then obi one goes Oh, hello, annie. Me's the judge. I think Then loads of far a star wars fans would go man. This is goofy and that's that's what I look good star wars How the hell did leia get a senate seat after this nonsense She's caught dead to rights as someone that vader and palpatine have a personal grudge with let alone just being a jedi Yet we're expected to believe she'll be left to operate within the system for nine plus years after this Can't wait for the 15d chess to explain this yet. I'm a member of the imperial senate on a diplomatic mission to alderaan after all this After this she does less and less. That just doesn't make any sense now There's no way organas are gonna be able to have senate seats after all this nonsense. No No, we're gonna get killed downright impossibility But who the fuck is right three grown male kitten I was took forever to catch leia obi couldn't keep up with her when she ran from him But leia couldn't outrun riva for a second the power of being a woman One of the kidnappers was a was like an alien lady, right? Yeah, there was a woman. Oh, yeah Yeah, but there were two minutes, but the power of men They they dragged down the power Saptor speed and agility and feminine grace And so they were unable to catch they have they have a like an area of effect Minus three to speed and intelligence Yeah, and it does you does it stack you bet your ass it does It's actually multiplicative. What's that called? It's um exponential increase in the effects. Yeah Imagine uh Leia sees riva and she's like, you know, it's too late. I've got you now And then leia just turns around starts running and riva's like you can't escape and starts running And then she just realizes through jump cuts. She's actually losing leia. She's just falling behind And she's like why it wasn't like what but I but I can see her I'm watching her. How how is this? It's like it's like some alice in wonderland. Yeah The hallway keeps extending really far. She's just like how what's happening? Yeah, it gets to a tiny door at the end and little leia can fit through it She's like what happened? How come this hallway is so small now? And she looks down and there's a tea cup that says drink me and then she drinks it and then she shrinks So she can chase leia riva goes on this whole crazy star wars always been Yeah, it goes on crazy adventure through wonderland and the episode ends with him He'd like i'll stay here other the credits roll and everyone's just like what? All right, that's fine. Well, it's fine because star wars has always been goofy. So that fits Yeah, there's a tea party at the end with the mad gun gun in the march tonton mad rags They're gonna have to try to get worse than this episode four you underestimate my power Don't try it. Yeah episode four was pretty bad. Did we conclude which we thought was worse three or four? uh four Wait, I had said that character wise episode three is worse, but logic wise. I think episode four is worse I think I think we did Episode three and four that episode four does still continue like obi-wan being really dumb Yeah, but there's moral components to obi-wan's uh assassination in episode three Meat shield him not seeming to care about an instant people Like obi-wan being like I know I'll shoot myself in the head to save the day It's like that's one thing but when he's like, oh no innocent people are dying I don't know whether anyone answered your question regarding whether the public knew vader was anakin in the disney canon star wars comics anakin was seen as a war hero who died saving the republic Now empire from the jedi and vader is seen as a new enforcer for the emperor Vader specifically goes out of his way to kill enemies and allies that discover his real identity There's a comic where vader kills an entire squadron of clones for learning his anakin I think it's safe to say rubber should not have known Darth Vader was anakin without being brutally killed So apparently that is a thing that he would he would want to erase anybody who knows that secret, uh Which is interesting. Of course. He can't get to why? Well, because I guess so few people know and it it's something of a Vulnerability, maybe that Darth Vader would see it as or just wants to keep it a secret. Um, why? He's just a little embarrassed He's he's he doesn't want to be associated with like the cringe that he said when he was 12 One time as vader he told someone that he was anakin and they were like, oh anakin Oh, I remember you you said you should um haunted by the kiss. You should never have given me that was you, right? That was cringe, bro. He's like shut up. No, I mean, I wasn't no. I wasn't anakin I'm gonna kill you. Yeah, it could be It could be any reason for why he feels that way, I guess, but uh, yeah, hopefully We'll get our answer as to why riva knows and whether or not Vader knew that she knew I have no clue How they're gonna make it so that she would have witnessed enough information in order 66 and survived it and become a Sith Inquisitor without anakin being aware of any of that or anybody being any aware of any of that Because that's gotta be the way she finds out. I doubt she was told because Fucking nobody should know or at least nobody should be Making aware of the fact that they because yeah, apparently anakin's mean to people who know I'm willing to believe that I just uh You know, it's not really been explored in anything live action That that reality because when luke is doing his whole anakin flumes vader's not going to just kill him for that Because he kind of likes luke and he's like, oh, you're my boy I'm just gonna chop your head off people defending obi one's incompetence And stupidity because he spent 10 years in the desert probably defend joe's Because he's got soft and rusty after four years living in a small town True i'm assuming you guys remember it wasn't that long ago the last of us too joe got fucking Yeah, legend because he did a bunch of stupid things in a row that he wouldn't normally have done and people were like Yes, but he was in a small town for a while. He got rusty I remember that a small town clearly that was regularly ravaged by different hunters and uh Scavengers and zombies like right he got got rusty I prefer the vision of stories like where we have taken Where the mild-mannered father character who's just chill But he has a history of having done maybe wet work for whatever EIA slash blah blah blah and then uh, he's totally fine. Totally chill. He's a bit socially inept He can make some mistakes here and there and he's like, oh Because his skills lie elsewhere and then when things get serious, he switches on and he's like incredibly threatening powerful and skilled Because he's got Yeah, he's got all of that training all that experience instead of being like Man, it's been it's been four years. You're useless now. It's like, yeah, okay That's like four of those taken movies now, isn't there? Oh, yeah, I mean, I like the first one Yeah, I only remember the first one. I think the second one had like a stupid thing with a grenade or something The third one had the thing where it took 16 cuts for Liam Neeson to get over a fence. Hey, it's time to get over Oh See that in cinema when it when it came out. No Taking taking three. That's the one where they were in. Um, oh I didn't see it in the cinema. No. No, I think I saw it later. Um, I'm pretty sure I did From memory and that moment where he says I told you I'd find you that shit was like top tier good like entertaining Yeah, where he works so hard to get to that one guy on the phone and when he finally gets to him And he like it kind of even sacrifices his position of power in the scene But he's just so fucking happy with himself. He's like, I fucking found you And then um, he does a pretty good job of actually getting through that scene fight scene choreography wise Like it's not it's not cringe, you know, it's not just the choreography. That's so terrible in the fight There should be a monumental moment, but the way they shot it is horrible amateur cheap Looking with the score being so bland. It's all just terrible Uh, yeah, it really is it's uh, they did a terrible job like cinematically of doing that moment And I think the fact that it's in a quarry becomes much more Lame because of the fact that they shot it so shittily. I think you can make a quarry cool Maybe and absolutely make a cool quarry, you know in Bespin. It's like an industrial Carbonite chamber Just because that sci-fi doesn't automatically make it cool is more so to do with how they shoot it and what's going on in there I don't think the probe droids were intended to be weak to a single blaster shot an empire Even though han and shui shot the probe han is immediately suspicious and says that it's self-destructed and han shot Three times or these twice and is proficient with a blaster over on his famous for hating blasters Yeah, han shot it multiple times and then comments on how he didn't hit it hit it that hard So it must have self-destructed. I did forget that So, uh, that could be one of them awkward. You didn't rewatch the scene memory things, right? Where you're just like, yeah, probe droids can get knocked out with because remember I made fun of um stupid hat guy for saying he destroyed the probe I was like, yeah one shot. So whatever like It's like you that shocked but it's like, oh, maybe that line does make sense because maybe it's not supposed to Be one shot to kill a probe droid probe droid. Yeah, I said it Did he shoot it like right in the middle of the weird lens eye thingy? Well, sure, but even then they're like implying Like I'm just trying to find a reason why they would do that that way So maybe it's like, oh, this is the weak spot obviously But then again, if you get if another one got shot multiple times and it didn't do anything and it's self-destructed It's like, uh, I don't believe you. I just don't believe you I mean, you know lens is the weak spot metal. It wouldn't even be shot up a shock But I'm pretty sure we can all agree. It's probably true. They didn't rewatch the ot before writing this shit all the prequels It was like, I remember them. I know what happened. Obi-Wan is like, uh, you betrayed the Jedi Maybe they maybe they were on the like second monitor as they were playing destiny 2 Oh I'm disappointed. Obi-Wan didn't just climb the nearest mound of gravel and shout. It's over anakin. I have the high ground I like that would have been goofy. Like it does a wide cut with no music him just scrambling awkwardly Up the hill He keeps like sliding down and Vedas and bombs just looking at him like really do Wait, wait, wait, I had this prepared for years It's over and then like you start sliding back down again I still have the high ground that he slides slowly to the ground. Okay Just finds like a little stool and stands on that one. It's like, ah, I have the high ground I'm honestly surprised the right is actually had enough restraint to not reference it in some way Maybe maybe they'll reference it when they fight again inevitably Through that could happen Regardless, I don't feel like they're trying to play those scenes seriously. So any goofiness in them will be accidental No, any goofiness would be acceptable and great. Thank god that one stormtrooper bumps his head Oh, yeah, the bumping of that head has enabled all of the shittiest writing in the world to happen so imagining I'm imagining like one of us gets a time machine and then goes But by the way, you know the uh Well, we just we just figured like we can't make it obvious that that's why we're there So just ruin the take just what just what whether that that particular take just go All we all we have to do is just just raise the door a little bit earlier Just before just right right before it normally would have opened just hit the button so that it's high enough It doesn't hit it when he walks through find out who that extra is chloroform him and take his place You'd think that a stormtrooper would miss the door Oh I get it You don't get a spot Okay, so they do get it. You don't get oh jay didn't get it. Oh, that's that's sad We intercepted a transmission on ball map Yeah, the the planet abes have been funny. Wasn't there one called beans or something? Yeah, the end of planet beans Instead of a water moon. It's a bean moon It orbits planet jeb I can get you inside and I can get you access It's a good thing. There was this hole at the bottom that you could just swim into Oh, yeah, well, she opened it up right because she had control of everything and she oh that pot was so dumb Oh my god, they showed it All right, maybe this show will be good. Maybe this is the good episode and he fell in the water He's waiting now Evil See that by the way is evidence to me that this is a kid show because they always say that I can understand people justifying that with well kids need to be able to understand what's going on Yeah, that's well That's the thing if someone said to me like is that an actual criticism? I'd be like not necessarily it's lame I I wish you'd give more space for people to actually interpret what's happening I guess it it might be a problem though because if someone looked at that they're just like Why are your eyes red all the lights have changed? Yeah, which isn't it's not very good for your intuitive like spy droid I guess yeah, I guess you could you could form it in the criticism And where do I people like this one was beginning to think you weren't coming wait if they not dh them Anakin still looks like he's got his wrinkles, which is okay. I think they have Yeah, they have you sure are you this isn't even the one that people like they're in the attack of the clothes This is the attack of the clothes. Yeah Yeah, you can see it still see is um, he's got this is not a problem by the way for an actor that have it but he's got his crow's feet and and Four head wrinkles, which is okay. Yeah, I noticed. I'm fine. I wish to normalize using the actor, but older It's okay. Yeah, I it's fine. It's okay. Especially when you look as good as those two Okay, but um, it's weird because disney usually do that day It is my great honor To be invited aboard Lord Vader. I am not interested in sabilities Where is he he's arriving on I have things to say about his voice. Oh, there's beans. Yeah Wait, so they let him go just so they could track him because like he was the thing they were interested in To lay out the timeline when Obi-Wan went to the proto rebels to get their help It was only the spy lady who came with them. There was no mention of Wade or the other person Coming in to save them at the end to get them out of there. No, nevertheless Their plan was to get in save layer and then escape that was their plan But Darth Vader's plan was obviously to like confront Obi-Wan and kill him. He's explicit He says get Obi-Wan. Go on you to get Obi-Wan is all that math My question is Laying out the timeline jay calm down So the reason why this is important is because Revver everything that she's doing is all about that objective as well as you know, like finding these proto rebels, but like when Obi-Wan and layer escape and Darth Vader stomps in furious that they got away That seems indicative of this absolutely not being what they wanted Unfortunately. Oh, I I made the drone evil. So it's going to track them That was like a last ditch effort to like a contingency I don't know why she would do that, but I mean, I can't fault her for doing that. That's exactly It doesn't make sense if she did it. Nobody would do that So she didn't let them go on purpose then no No, no, she wanted them. She wanted to stop them, but they yeah What would it be? No, the reason I think this is because people on twitter have been fucking justifying Ages with they will let go on purpose like all fucking week They're not let go on purpose Think of it this way When Revver confronts them on like the landing bay What are her means of allowing them to escape without raising all suspicion that she wants to track them? She doesn't know that anybody's coming in to save them. I mean, Obi-Wan didn't even know that anybody was coming to save him Like how can it be her plan to let them escape if she was to Maybe maybe she assumed that they would that they would actually have a way to escape set up that was Not fucking sure they can't actually do this dumb. They must have a plan if you remember they're all they're being shot at by everybody Uh, they're getting close shaves constantly and they've all been commanded to stop them Like it's you know, it's a dumb scene because they get in insane plot armor, but uh, yeah That was not intended there's something that's interesting I brought this up and I completely blanked it If you Vader should have had additional issues with this because what is the most likely thing that's going to happen when you have Obi-Wan Leia and and this girl leaving it's like well, they go to the rebel alliance base right and it's like No, they drop Leia off with Lola to Alderaan. That's the most likely thing that's going to happen Which doesn't help you guys at all. Well, yeah, there's a there's an assumption that it's going to lead to the proto rebels And it will obviously But I are going instead of taking her back to Alderaan Imagine they go to a big ship and then another ship comes in it's just a representative from Alderaan And Leia gets given to them and takes Lola with it because of course and then Yeah, they follow this ship back and Bale's like, oh, hey empire Now ignoring all the other problems that they would actually talk to Bale Yeah, so I was just surprised. I was like, oh, yeah, Vader should be pissed at it because that was a really fucking stupid decision Even though it was a lie, which he should know as well You should know that that's a lie. He absolutely It's massive incompetence that could have cost everything. Uh, so yeah, it's it's all fucked basically But yes, Jay. Uh, it was not intended. It was just a cover. Yay The arguments that you have received are just the case of the show has said this so I accept it as the uh As the explanation for what's going on when it's not that simple when it comes to forest Impenetrable forest that someone walks through. It's like when I said it was impenetrable. It's like, yeah, they did This is great going in the episode. Oh, this is all information Yeah, yeah, it's not the first time we've done this Yeah, we remember we paused a lot on the finale commando because it was piss Also, I'm just thinking about it. I don't even know when she put the tracker in there and changed the lights I think holds it for a moment in the uh in the interrogation. I remember that very clearly Because everyone's just a shoes Star Wars is a world where it's as simple as dropping like a little booth on it Like you put a little thing and it'll probably be evil like that. That's probably remember To restrict droids. They put those little um cylinders on them In a bigger chip thing. Yeah, like it's making them evil probably has the same system. How does laia still have it? That's the more Imagine she fucking dropped it on the way Everyone wants to keep it all the time. She's fucking dumb ass mercenaries let her keep it too Everyone rescued her from the torture chamber and then they left So did they take a detour to save her droid or was it like with her in the torture chamber? You know as part of the torture is knowing that your droid watches you get tortured If we're being her faith We have to actually assume riva was holding it and she was like man Imagine laia escaped. Well, maybe if I just put a little evil thing on this and then I put it back in her pocket So then in case she's taken which is dumb because that thing could probably help her escape the torture device But then again, it was evil at that point. So I guess it wouldn't I don't fucking know help you escape torture devices They help put you in them This is what I mean like uh when you are a shitty writer you start creating so many problems to have to solve Just because of your initial stupidity It's like layers and layers on top of everything. No, no, no, but that's the beauty of it Mola. You just don't have to solve them Oh, great. You could just Yeah, the reason why you don't have to solve them a stormtrooper bonked his head on a Yeah, that's true. Yeah It's okay if it's dumb and it doesn't make any sense and there's no rules or logic The visual of the stormtrooper bonking his head is going to pop up in the edit quite a bit Fuck we should add a different sound effect every time he hits his head I'll skim through a whole bunch of video game sound effects Do you need the one from smash the This big hat his big fucking hat back there You have done well You've done well, wouldn't you want to verify this information? Is she gonna get made grand inquisitor before they even check or verify or anything like that? Wow, yeah, wow because it's okay I have your grand inquisitor badge. There it is. It's magnetic. It's magnetic Wait, so she had the information that they were found on jabeen Which funny but um, they had to wait until she walked up and waited for her appointment to announce it to then chase them That sounds pretty stupid. Yeah No, Obi-Wan is never right away. It would be an active tracker that they have on screen and they would just be like Where is it going? And it's like, oh this system go immediately. I assume this is gonna like kill the rebellion Right if they're the the infancy of the rebellion is here and the tracker is here. They're fucked I don't think they care about that these people could all die and it'll be like don't worry. That was just one Where's wade? They're all waiting for wade like oh god, maybe they will mention wade What are you tidying up? Why didn't they all care? Wasn't there? All right, they didn't mention wade. No, he's waded in the previously if they're not gonna mention it Haja Oh, how are you alive? Oh, yeah, that's right. She just let you be alive after I saw you I got him to fight with that scary lady inquisitor I'm wanted by the empire. He's wanted by the empire. If I leave I'll let him go He was already wanted he was pretending to be a Jedi. Yeah, was he not aware that being a Jedi was bad for business? Your health. Yeah that transport. I need to get her back to old run They've been waiting for months. We used to know trade route to get them out We only have a few hours. We'll do whatever we can to help. Oh, okay So that's our excuse to stay here. We can't go back home yet. We have to remain here We need a whole episode here. Okay. You're ready for dust off leave anything you don't need. All right I mean, it's not that many people that shouldn't take too long, right? Yeah. I need my xbox. Okay. I need it I need it Not only do I need it mom says it might turn everyone lock down the facility If we seal them in now, they can hold out for days. Fine. If we cannot okay, yeah It is not them. We need to break Oh Oh, it doesn't oh, it sneaks around It's all sneaky that that thing is a robot x suspicious. It's the writer's wet dream. It can do anything it wants How did you open that wait? Yeah? Did they give it the force? Oh god, what's it gonna do? I remember because it has a sore. It can chop up a little fall or something, right? Old force.exe On the wall to the idiot. Yes. Stop doing that. It's really dumb Yo, frank was here. I live in Tatooine. Come visit. You just leave these. Whoa. Those things are worth a fortune. Wait, what? Those are a fortune. Yeah, each one of those lightsabers their value is insanely high Whose collection is that? Don't wear those Do not wear the road. I would imagine that you could sell a lightsaber on this like Galactic market for like millions of millions of dollars. Yeah, absolutely. They're like dinosaurs in Jurassic world What's it doing? Oh, it's just electricity crackling. Oh great. You cut the wires and it closes the okay Oh, you can cut through that. You have several lightsabers. What's happening? The controls aren't responding. The imperial destroyer just arrived in orbit. Oh, yeah, you're fucked. Yeah, well, they're dead then. It's fade out. Yeah, you're dead. We surrender. He'll kill us all He'll attack next. He hasn't the patience for siege If you make a mistake, you're dead. Well, yeah sparring with lightsabers is an interesting choice, isn't it? Yeah, I guess they must be practicing sabers that thing that we continuously have to head cannons Yeah, I assume there's a way for them to train without Killing each other all the time. No, it's next to that. It's the severed headroom I just haven't really no no no more more wait. Why the everything two transports really Why to You're going for a planet my bro use it. It's a planet. You don't know how many people are down there Everyone I understand you're scared. I understand you're scared. You're scared the empire will attack soon If we try and fight them, we will not survive. Oh, thanks, bro Thanks, we just need to hold them off long enough to get you all out How much time do you need to override the doors three four hours? You have one He did the beam. He said you have one what he said I need three or four Why did you ask if you're just gonna tell me to do it in one? That's not how it works How long does it take to like drive to x location one hour? You have 30 minutes. It's like, what do you what are you saying? I gave you information. You just said no Drive fast you little fucker. Why did you ask me if you already didn't care what I had? I hate that shit man. Well, no, no knowing that that's not long enough makes it more traumatic And that was the most traumatic way to reveal the information Why are you not bombarding this entire planet from orbit continuously for like a day? Nader wants to kill ko nobby himself. He wouldn't yeah, they could oh my goodness. Oh man. That's so nervous Well, they have like they're in a battleship and you're putting a fucking girder on the door We need to establish by the way. This is obi one and leah's fault Yep, yes Or at least they have some bearing of responsibility on this for not having thought about a tracker because this is horrible Horrifying the glue especially because obi one used a tracker to find jango. He knows this trick Well and leah falls for this again in a new hope now. That's what we've established Did you guys want to form like all that looks so fake? Establish cover. They don't do that no more. I'm guessing. Yeah, there's just no There's no combat tactics in star wars ever. It's just we're just gonna stand here. Yeah, you're right. That formation is weird Yeah, like you need to form a place to shoot over each other. You need to establish barricades Man, Riva's so epic I missed It's don't make any scream I'm so tired of screaming bad guys. We need to hang a roof open. Yeah, you know what? I think he's trying But if you open the roof, aren't they just going to shoot missiles and do it that might be protected Well, so the rags. I'll let me help you out. The writers are saying this opening is our escape Even though that doesn't make any sense because there's a fucking star destroyer floating above you the star destroyer is like Oh my god, they're opening it up No, they couldn't open it up. Oh well What Oh my god, wait, what did she say? I need a ladder They uh, they need to come up into the fence to try and figure out what's wrong. How is Leia gonna know what to do? I don't know That it will be that she'll go up there and like oh no lola. Why are you evil? No, they have a boss fight A little too big to be crawling around in the fence. Would you like to try it? Do they not have mechanics or people who understand this facility? No, they don't know one small enough to fit in that vent, which sounds like bullshit to me Why the fuck's the vent got all the important technology in it? We're a place where nobody can go I want adult can fit in there. Fuck off. They don't even need to fit in there. You can reach in Just reach in with your arms. Why would it be that you can't access any of the technology started fucking with the wires? Does she know how it works? I want to have to put the wires there in the first place I know he said no communication, but your silence Worries me if he's learned of the children if I don't hear from you soon I'll head to Tatooine. Owen will need help with the boy So if you think he's cool, why the fuck would you send him this message? If you are insanely done, they've caught that device You fool. Jesus Christ. You are a stupid bale. Oh my god. They ruined bale. They ruined bale This is all assuming that there isn't someone in the empire tracking bale and they just follow him and find Luke How did they find us? There were four families. Yes, let's give a decent amount of time to give her a character. That's the important thing to do And we we gathered them up. It's gonna be honest lady. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I don't even remember your name I didn't know who they were. I didn't you're not you're no wade to me. You are sub-wade level Wait, are we doing walk and dead logic? Is she dead in this episode? I couldn't do anything to help them Quite possibly. Should you both be doing something like adding more barricades to the door? Yeah, the risk was the guilty conscience. So if we establish this now She'll get a heroic sacrifice. Yeah, she's gonna die In a better show wouldn't be this predictable, but you can't fight to make them better. Oh, she's giving him inspiration. That's great Yeah, that's that's another tick on our bingo card. By the way, he's inspiration less Also, can you stop fucking around? We need to help You know, yeah now that we've done that she can die. It's all good. Yeah. Oh, he's got a chewy Uh Yeah, he's got a chewy he's got a chewy gun. He's got a chewy gun I mean it kind of looks like the door's so fine. It feels like this isn't doing much at all This is gonna talk for this thick door. You can't hear him Use the force there you go. Lord Vader will have you at any cost. You knew who Vader was How did you know that? Oh, we're addressing it. Vader would have kept that hidden. Oh, look at them Wow, and you're too young to have known him unless you were there the night of order 60 There's probably a lot of kids that they that they captured and converted, right? Enough! Well, we haven't learned anything yet. We knew all this We got the flashback? Yes. There you go Oh, sorry. I like how yeah, we called this in the first like minute of the show It's like, oh one of them is gonna be in the show Bad, okay. They're showing him killing children Nice, nice Still bugs the fuck out of me. They had hate in christianson and that this is all they've done so far I tried to help them, but I couldn't when he left I played dead played dead. How'd you play dead? Yeah, I felt the cold How could anyone make that mistake? Yeah, like he was right here. He was like, oh, you got me Oh, she had our attack. Okay. Let's leave They were the only family I knew Yeah, that's rough. So why'd you kill everyone? Yeah? Yeah, what's up with that? You're hunting him She actually wants to kill Vader secretly. Do you really want Anakin dead? Where were you while he was killing my friends? Oh, I can answer that He was on utipao getting fucking killed by his own clones. Yeah, yeah order 66 happened I mean you just he's like one of those desired kills. How do you not know this? You've got to be an idiot. What do you think? Do you think he would have let it happen if he was there? I don't need your help. I Don't need Anyone. Yeah, there you go. That's why she's angry at him. She's having this conversation in front of a lot of troopers No, it's quiet enough. They don't hear it. It's fine. Don't worry about it You fucking lightsaber can go through. What's the point of the other weapon? Oh, okay. I'm not doing that. Oh my god. He's using a force Enough character time for plot Oh my god, there's a lot of stormtroopers out there. Yeah, but seriously, you cannot be Obi-Wan's plot armor right now He will kill all of them using like a tank or why are your Ship's cannons not shooting into there. How have the stormtroopers won already? Yeah, they just need to fire like one barrage and like yeah, it's all over you can't dodge that many at once We talked about this One strategies here walk forward slowly and align in the open, all right They are a meter away Oh, you're right. Why the fuck is anyone throwing a grenade on both sides? Why don't they make your armor out of that panel? Seriously, uh, you've you've hit my brain now either side with a grenade. Oh god Wow, holy shit fucking shaky camera fucks me off. So Damn little pieces of metal that block all blaster shots Obi-Wan just keep fighting them. You can't be shot better if it's harder to see what's going on Are you listening to me? I feel like you're not listening to me. Would you stop talking? Yeah, just lay a note how the well and does lay a know that everyone's lives are at stake based on what she can do there People are dying lots of people are dying. It's weird to cut to her like being All the loader droids gonna have a heroic sacrifice, isn't it? Load of joy is definitely dead and they're gonna feel the fact that they probably know at this point We end up liking the droids more than the people. You're just standing there hoping you don't get shot Yeah, if you're standing they get to cover you fucking idiots Jesus christ everyone's an idiot. What the hell are they that close? Heroic sacrifice heroic sacrifice here on the load of bot. They're gonna have a heroic sacrifice. Yeah So they're not just shooting it to bits That happens when you stand in the middle of the hallway. You idiot fucking moron. Oh Obi-Wan, you're only a few meters away. So he would save it, right? You'd get in front Where's Obi-Wan? What's he doing? Oh, he's watching again. Oh, no, they're dying Obi-Wan did nothing for like 10 seconds. I saw that show you can't get away with that Oh, wow, we're we're going full uh emotional terms one. Yeah, but roguan had a whole movie with the kts Yeah, also kts. I've had dialogue and they shut the gate and roll annihilated in the cold dog vacuum of space Not me I can survive in space. It's a robot. I don't care about this loader. It's not alive I care about the loader. I care more about the loader than her I care I care more about the loader than her. Yeah Yes, run. Oh, no that one stormtrooper pushed kenobi too far back to help it You had a grenade the whole time. Of course, you just shoot it and it closes You had a grenade this whole time May the force be with you. She said may the force be with you She's the force to push it away throw Grenade, that's what they do. Oh you had a grenade You're right if she'd thrown that at them and then the loader bot took the brunt of this explosion. She might have survived Shut up obi-wan strategy is when you're far away from enemies is to hold on to the grenade I can't I can't this guy didn't give a fuck when wade died, but oh Why is it so hard for them to do action? They weren't a choke point and everything that would have killed so many stormtroopers Yep This is a way better fight than they have in the last episode Admit you are beaten See the parallels They won't make a difference. They want all of us. They don't want me if you surrender She's gonna say what do you think's gonna happen to these people everyone? Yeah, do you think I'm just gonna leave? He knows I'll do everything I can to protect these people. You should do that. Oh, that's he knows I'm virtuous, you see All right, he expects me to surrender. He knows I'll do everything I can to protect these people Oh, so there are like 10 lightsabers just around Also, yeah, you're right. You could just take it a little bit. You want to tell me Are you gonna fight without a weapon? There are other ways to fight So I'm gonna go ahead and bet this is dumber than just attacking them because of your insane plot armor But that's that's just a meta knowledge. I guess I don't believe she knows what she's looking for Oh my god, oh that's stupid. I hope she don't see me So like if the thing cut wires, how are you gonna like reattach them? You need equipment and tools in order to do press a button rags and he'll fix everything inform lord vader Kenobi is What was that? What was that weird bow thing? I don't know He's on his way Remember when Kenobi was really cool. You're gonna die soon. You're not bringing him to me I'm bringing him to you the storm church. That soldier is very close. You're right here Like what are y'all talking about? I like the Greg over there's like hey, man You know they're facing forward but their eyes are looking to the right What stop up the shaking off the cap. Fuck. Yeah, this shakiness stop It's this is a calm serene moment They were intended to film this scene with a tripod, but they forgot it We're gonna let him do it again. What he did to you. We could end this Together I can't believe they're actually talking about killing vader right in front of a storm trooper And apparently the reason why this plan might work is because it could be just so distracted with obi one that he won't notice The room is gonna come off and stab him in the back. He's gonna. Yeah, he's gonna get snoked I don't want anyone to get snoked Okay, why wait, where's it going? Dude, that's two storm troopers. We saw what happened with the girl with two storm troopers earlier. Remember He has the force. Obi-Wan can use the force. He has telekinetic powers Damn, you chopped his leg off. Yeah, you guys nearly killed him There Your weapon's gone It's over. I used to have telekinesis. It's in my hand now. No need for victory anakin. It blinds you. I mean, he did win though Yeah, but I won My need for victory seems to have secured a victory That scene the flashback scene seems to be in character with how the character is. I'm okay with with that scene so far Adam secured inside, my lord It's secured inside. Why is he not secure out here? Why? Why is he not right here? No, no, no, no, no, no Wow It's insane. It's so insane. You could have just kept him there in the third. This is the one thing we didn't want to happen He was kneeling in the dirt and you had him and for some reason you sent him alone with two storm troopers Oh, no boss fight boss fight. Oh no Remember who you are Is she gonna remember who you are? Oh, it was a little There you go evil evil button. She's just alive and everything. It's just an evil thing. Oh my god. This show sucks It's a little evil. Tia, can she just pulled it off? Fuck me. What does that say about droid, said the insane He's become evil But wow, there you go, she's in it The droid was specifically there to sabotage the door and she just pokes it with a screwdriver and it Fixes it. Yep instantly orbital. Yeah, I love the idea. The star destroyer is floating right above the opening like hello Yeah, they look up and it's like the alien ship from independence day Well, all they need is to say there's one of those cannons from hoth on this planet And you shoot the star destroyer with that as they escape. That's all you need an ion Yeah, a little stunning ion cannon Move move, let's go Oh, nice Nice, good job. You had one job and it was to not drop it No Dude, that's the equivalent of the right of being like, what do you think of this idea? We all go no, stop it Stop it. Just left one in the face. Wait, so I couldn't Riva have just opened those doors Holy fuck. No, no, no, no, no, he can't do that. He doesn't do that to the millennium falcon at hoth He can't do that No, no, no, no, he's not allowed to do that. No Also, they're fucked. Yeah What are they gonna do? What the fuck's gonna be the reveal? They're done. Jesus Christ Fuck me. What's gonna happen? What? What there you used a fake ship knowing that vader would use the first power to pull down the fake ship That didn't make any sense at all. There was no fake ship there to begin with. What the fuck? What was that? You don't need to prove yourself as you're undoing you haven't won yet. Yeah, I'll just get my other one I'll just get yours. I'll get yours. Yeah, I don't understand the lesson there. Also. I'm glad we're alive He's still the father one because he didn't know there was a secret invisible second ship. What the fuck What about the star destroyer? No, I know why this is here This is literally just here to justify in a new hope when vader says when I left you I was but the learner Oh, fuck off Killer please take your head off. I beg you Oh god I mean, okay I'm okay with this if he's playing with it He seems to be basically easily. Oh, yeah, I got the okay. Oh, yeah, they can do this, right I was about to say you're the spinny boob. Here's some lightsaber Your edgy lightsaber is no match for me Comes apart. That's just useful Yeah Okay, I'm all right with this. Yeah Beater because she's shit What was that? What was that? Oh, yeah, that was that was very awkward. That was very strange He Well, is she giving up? You got the force riva, right? You're still like alive and there's Oh, man, why is it shot so like this flashback? Then we wouldn't realize what this is a parallels What happened to her early in her life? Yeah Wait, he stabbed her as a kid. What? Wait, wait, he stabbed her as a and she lived she played dead. She played anything anymore I can't believe it. How'd it go? I gone die. I don't know I don't know. Did you really believe I did not see it youngling? You are of no further use. Well, he knew Did you say he knew if he knew then why the fuck why has she been here the whole time? Hello third sister. Oh my god He's cringe his fucking voice revenge does wonders for the will to live. Don't you Revenge does what he lived It's the opposite of leia dying of sadness. He lives for revenge. Yeah, your rage Was useful Now it is She was useful because she was angry who was still alive And he must have told them that riva did that to him. So why was she allowed to lead the assault? Because this is all yeah Like what's the train in that from veda even though he knew that she was like just now Even though the trick worked because allowed obi wants to escape exactly like yeah God veda's a dumb ass again She's not dead. She's gonna survive to kill her. You got stabbed and lived. They're leaving. She got stabbed. They're actually leaving Is that her lightsaber in the ground? It's parallel drag. She survived as a kid too. This is great He's got to do a hero thing and I've said six so I'll give her a chance for that. He's a murderer and a killer. No, it's fine How many times do you think she could have killed veda by just like getting the jump on him When they were near each other, that would have been a better plan because she just tried that randomly at the end there That's all that was there were better times to do that river. I can't believe they left the lightsaber This is Captain the god he died Yeah, well, and she's amazing and so is the other inquisitor man something you're failing to remember freaks is that humans have two stomachs Oh no I really thought when she stopped moving. I thought she was gonna grab the lightsaber and then die and that would be her last action Oh my god, that's so tasteful They dropped it and there's nobody What you shouldn't be alive. He's you got stabbed in the middle with the lightsaber She's just like fine learned of the children on tatooine I always say I've been stabbed. I better play this like thing that I found hell man Wow Bail organa go fuck yourself Holy fuck this is crap. Are you okay? I'm sure it's nothing He detected a plot contrivance in the force Oh boy, fuck me people like this one I said this was good people like this one because of the one good flashback scene, right? Yeah, I think that's it That's the only thing they like which was an all right scene. It was okay Except for the fact that they seem to nearly kill each other everything Well, and I don't I think I'd be critical of obi one's lesson because He he decided he won that fight when he hadn't yet. Hey luke after he lost already by the way Wow, what crap cool. So where to begin that episode was horrifically bad to the point where I'm not even sure what The worst episode is anymore Oh, yes, I think this one is a little too important for it to not be the one that is It hurts Vader significantly. It hurts kenobi clearly and it hurts bail organa significantly and the lore star was significantly So it's like that's a lot of damage Yeah, coupled with the expected bad plotting. Oh, yeah, lots of terrible terrible plot And this was the one that is getting Well received. Yeah, and this is specifically I think the reason the flashback, right? It's definitely that it's it's that it's a memberberry shit right there We really have crossed that you can't get more than this. We've recreated a scene from the prequels We went back in the day prequels was the black sheep. We avoid the fuck out of them And now it's like please like us. Look, we're showing you stuff that you like come on This is one to one now. It's it's almost absurd Even though it's the thing I was saying they should do because look at the results Everyone's saying this episode's amazing because it's managed to distract them from that's a strong chance They would have said it's amazing regardless. It was amazing regardless Maybe because so much important stuff happens. This is like a big point episode Well, yeah, and I'm sure people consider what happened with Riva to be very very meaningful as opposed to try this fuck It's the show aware that her entire motivation is hypocritical Um, well, I don't even know if the show was done enough for us to even figure this out yet It hasn't explained why she's been killing everybody. Yeah, exactly Because she's participated in the regime. She's participated in the regime that took everything from her I can't currently tell if the show is doing this deliberately or not Right because vader's motivation was he wanted to he had his own personal goals And at that point in the jedi temple he killed children because That was just something that he did in order to achieve his own personal goals He didn't have like anything against those kids is Well, no, he did hate the jedi at that point But you know his own goals clouded his judgment to the point where he was killing children Riva is doing exactly the same thing we um She is hunting jedi including children because of her own personal goal Which is killing vader because he did exactly the same thing I can't believe I'm saying this but I think it makes more sense for anakin to think I need to kill these children to Erase the jedi and gain and learn about all the powers to be able to save padme as opposed to I gotta kill these children so that I can get closer to vader to be able to kill him When she's close to him like several times in the show before now And if you said like yes, but she's waiting for the perfect moment It's like perfect moment. She's had this moment several times. I don't understand. It's not getting the perfect moment Yeah, and it was clearly the perfect moment would have been when both her and obi one were there When he was trying to pull the ship down would be the a really good moment. Yeah, you're right That would be the perfect moment Really, which you know what rags it's just convenient that she doesn't have that opportunity to attack him because She should have been right behind him. There's no reason for her not to be absolutely It's just one of those gaps. We just have to create for reasons. Yeah, seriously like jeez Watching vader do that. I immediately thought of when he's watching the millenium falcon fly away from him in hearth And it's like if this is 10 years later and a lot of force users get more powerful the older they are You're telling me he was just like well that goes to falcon. Yeah, so like that was a really viscerally satisfying scene is in like I enjoyed a sensation in me that that scene caused of like Man, this is just I can just feel the raw power. I hated everything that was happening Yeah, maybe it was like a satisfaction and watching it being done Which I would love to see in a way that Didn't ruin stuff because um people are probably gonna bring up It's like star killer did this to a to a star destroyer and it's like, yeah, that was a bit extreme too That wasn't it like in force force unleashed and it's just like I think I'm on board with the idea of making it So that vader had the power to do this but we can't because of empire. It's it's too late They've locked that out You can't have him with the ability to do that and that means you can't really have the ability to do that for anybody Because vader's supposed to be one of the most powerful force users ever So yeah, it really is kind of it's that sequel thing seeping in of the force is just a it's a cure-all for any kind of plot Need that you want it to do it can do this now can do that force healing force pull a ship force random lightning Whatever you need the plot for you just have that magic force that you could just use for whatever Well, I'll go as far as saying as well This is probably a moment people are citing is why this episode is so fucking awesome But it won't age like the rogue one scene and one of the big reasons I think if you guys look at it again doesn't look very good Um, no backgrounds look completely fake the CGI is clearly like it's okay After the fight was in a tunnel a dirt tunnel. Yeah, and it's so arbitrary and then claustrophobic And when more people talk about like, yeah, why didn't he do this to my name falcon? It's gonna it's gonna start being like, hmm I don't think I don't think people really get any care about that as much though. Some people do They won't even think about it. I think most people won't think about it. Some people will care and if you care Then it's like so which one gets sacrificed empire or obi-wan kadovis show Like at that point which one's taking the floor Are we supposed to believe if you can see in the background through the mist Is that the ship that everyone is actually on and this is a decoy ship who was flying it? I don't know The loader Did he not sense all of the life that was on the other ship there and if you just do me a favor and Is is that what we're supposed to believe? Is there a ship in the background day? Or is that nothing else? Maybe one mentor I think it has to be it has to be otherwise it it wasn't here And that would be insane that like this went through all of the processes for post production And like that was just not noticed that has to be it Think this it's like right next to the ship when it launches. I don't think logistically that can make any sense Here's something that's worth thinking about if he tears down the ship. What if he throws it at you? What if after you fly off? He just does the same thing to your ship. You're right. Yeah Why didn't he just do the exact same thing? And by the way But that's a knock against him for intelligence If you're telling me he can why do they do this in this show so much the seconds after establishing a power They forget they have that who started the ship who flew the ship metal. I don't know Um the loader droid I think and I can't believe we're having this conversation like this should never be the reality of your story But I think we're supposed to assume there was a ship back there They were all hiding in and this one was literally launched to be like lel They'll think this is us and they'll attack this and then we will go like they don't launch at the same time They wait until this one gets grounded Or and this is this is a hail mary. I don't think this is what we're supposed to think We're supposed to believe like it came out of this ship the smaller one because if you remember This is the ship that smaller ship docked on right or is it not? That was my immediate thought when I saw it is that it looked like it came out of it But that's just if you look at it that is not what's happening in this scene. Like it's behind it And then with uh how it looked when it first happened. I was like, oh, is it inside it? Oh, no, it's he should have grabbed the other ship. Yeah So that scene was really done. I forgot that he could do that I'm so glad that the the fake jedi guy dropped the thing so that the final episode can happen Also, you saw that bail sent that message in the first place. Yeah, it's all it's all it's all broken and uh I've noticed that um re-speature I think would have been fine for me if it were one or two lines Have you noticed how all of his lines are delivered in what can only be described as the same way The grand inquisitor means nothing you have done well And I guess what I mean by that is like kanobi is all that matters Kanobi is all that matters now. We must go here prove yourself. It is not them We need to break You will become the grand inquisitor. You might be like, well, what's what's the problem? It's like, okay, some of his most famous and quoted lines from the ot I'm assuming you guys remember but the thing about vader is he fucks with words all the time in super interesting ways You have failed me for the last time Where are those transmissions? You were deceptive. What have you done with those plans if he could be turned He would become a powerful ally that imply a level of um character behind them. Perhaps you think you're being treated unfairly Don't fail me again Admiral the one because I was talking about this on real view see gary referenced and the clip will simply play Because why the fuck would I just not let the maestro do it himself? The force is with you young skywalker But you are not a jedi yet It's just like who that that stings a little more. That's interesting Meanwhile, if it was done with re-speecher, he would be like, but you are not a jedi yet. I am not interested in It's like in the one we saw the skinwalker luke in that episode of boba fat. Really? That's all you got. Let me help you or he just yes everything is so flat and tonally neutral And just devoid of humanity. What should I do about him? Have you heard anyone talk like that back home? I've accepted the truth that you will once Anakin skywalker my father. Would you like to remember? Can't believe he's gone You will find balance as well get back up. I didn't hear you give any ideas always get back up Yes, and it's it. Yeah, it's like we're like skinwalker waiter. You are free to use any methods necessary But I want them alive No disintegrations Bring him to me. You don't know the power of the dark side I must obey my master You are of no further use. He will join us or die master Lock down the facility Indeed, you are powerful as the emperor has foreseen fail me and you will not live to regret it You will not be permanently damaged. I will bring him in myself When you get told as a machine to say apology accepted captain nida That's what it will say But if you get told that as a voice actor who's as talented as jamesville jones, he'll say apology accepted captain nida And it sounds way better and uh, you'd get old vader in rogue one and that's true It's a little bit. It's like oh, he's not he's not quite that but if you compare the rogue one deliveries He's still got it. There's a great many things to attend to my apologies You do have a great many things to explain be careful not to choke on your aspirations director like that This is respeacher. They'll be like be careful not to choke on your aspirations director We leave for job beam at once if you only knew the power of the dark side We're suggesting that this is done with respeacher. I already know it is it's cited in the credits Oh, fuck I'm suggesting this exact thing happened with luke by the way. We were all like when we first heard it We were like, okay That does sound like person the more you hear the lines than the more you compare with the old ones You're like, oh, it's missing the punch of a human. There's no human in there Even though i'm pretty sure the process for it is that it processes a bunch of human lines Or it takes a human's delivery and then Turns it into the speech of the the patterns that we recognize But there is an element missing and it's become incredibly obvious every time you listen to vader in any scene now He sounds lame For them are strong especially for sister Did you really believe I did not see it? Or be one was wise to hide her from me Now his failure is complete Accurate lame not just hire james l jones. He's too old or he doesn't want to do it or whatever reason you could think This is probably a lot cheaper actually Yeah, let's say why spend the money when you can just do this boring ass re-speecher and everyone creams their pants anyway Probably literally it's just money. We have this re-speech program. Just use that People don't care. Look what they did with luke. Oh, yeah Who is probably the worst offender of the bunch people fucking creamed their pants on that episode where the skinwalker luke Was just a robot masquerading as a character and everyone's children Yeah, get up. Always get up. Always get back up Always get back up Dopp I'm not gonna say like the feeling of time that passes is like super off How much time passes in this episode passes how much how much distance is between the planets We get obi-wan escaping in the beginning Then we see riva telling vader that there's a tracker and where they are and they start to go Towards jabim after that we see obi-wan arrive at jabim After that we get a different scene with vader where they say oh lock them in Then we see the base getting locked in and then They say the star destroyer has arrived and that's in like five six minutes And I was like when did this all happen? How long have they been here hours? They didn't address the star destroyer either. They just escaped Yeah, because just oh the star destroyer is above the planet and then they fucked off later So that is gone But then they say at the end the star destroyers after them apparently and they lost their hyper drives So I don't know how is it? Just crap Shoot them down. There's so much military on that But you know what I'm saying is they just say is like this happens happens happens happens But don't really show us how much time has passed They just stitch the scenes together and it's like okay. We're here now Now we can have our scenes here because apparently everything is just super close together where they are Even though we want apparently from what I see and understand from the episode They're like way ahead because if riva first has to go to to vader star destroyer Tell him and then they start and while they're on their way. They lock them in as like, okay So I guess when between that that scene and them arriving there hours have passed for some reason I don't know. It's just hard for me to understand where we are time-wise or how much time has passed And how fast people are it's just really weird So try and picture this because I have no idea how any of this makes any sense And this is part of the destruction of Darth Vader as far as I'm concerned He went into the temple. He killed a bunch of kids One of them played dead until she finally crawled out of the pile of bodies to become a sith inquisitor How does that make any sense in terms of everyone would know where she came from or who she is, right? It would be all on record. So she thinks she tricks everybody into thinking she's not a youngling So how why and then vader's like, I didn't know you were a youngling this whole time And we were using your rage to help. We knew you'd try and kill us at some point It's lucky that you didn't manage to kill the fucking grand inquisitor That's why I stabbed you non-lethally like you stabbed him non-lethally. What is that like you're so cocky Like ha ha we used your rage and say I nearly killed you I could have I just didn't apparently realize you're two stomachs Well, here's the thing. How long did he know all of this because what was his plan to just like You know what I'll just have her around to maybe lure everyone out. Maybe you know, absolute nonsense The emperor never fucking entertained this. It's like no kill And what is that like I played dead you were stabbed in the stomach with a lightsaber as a child How is it that you can play dead for that? What these people actually not know what is contained within a human stomach It feels that way because this is the third instance in this show of somebody being stabbed in the gut and surviving It's insane. Not only surviving but becoming very more of a gutting a lot of um strength and jumping around and doing lightsaber stuff too The result of a gut wound is incredibly variable Of course, but the problem is like it's a lightsaber It's a at least with a knife It might not uh take out at like like a lightsaber goes right through and burns and singes everything Like it's what a lightsaber does when you get stabbed in the gut Qui-Gon got stabbed in the problem with sight in that is people be like, oh, yes The same scene where someone is chopped in half and survives. Haha. Sure, but that do have a problem with that. Yes We have a problem with that too Whenever someone sites like oh palpatine is like, yes, that's also stupid. Yes We think that's um if you you're bringing up the same dumb things that we would also bring up Anyone surviving anything now can be justified with well palpatine survived. Yeah, so please Join us on the team of drawing a line. The stormtrooper in 1977 bumped his tad. Yeah, he survived that Maybe Look at this guy who survived being stabbed because he wanted revenge You person that we literally recruited for revenge. I'll stab you leave you here alive It's it's so absurd when you actually stop for two seconds and think about what's happening here I've now it what are they smoking when they're writing these Well, so I think this is such a clear example of you can see what they're trying because in this situation That's like, okay So reva probably would have died from that wound and if she didn't Darth Vader or the stormtroopers or the grand inquisitor would have killed her But we can't have her die and it's like she or or rather when you're watching it Oh, but she's not dead. There must be a reason why Narratively it's like, ah, remember when Dinesh dropped the uh, the little thing the little transmission remember that bail even did that despite how perilous it was Ah, it all makes the world bends to facilitate the story that they want That might be one of the greatest assassinations in the show so far Yeah, maybe he would say in the recording. I'm worried that you've been like captured or I'm sending this message to tell you I will take care of the boy on Tatooine. Hopefully they don't discover the children It's like, why would you do this? You couldn't even be vague Bail is just that's not even he escapes. No, it's not Bail hasn't escaped. Bail is done. He's finished It's he was dumb in the first episode and he was dumb in the second episode And now they've just the this the little chef's kiss with a cream on the top with a cherry on the Cake layer, whatever the ice cream on the ala mode It's it's done. It's finished. Bail's ruined Bail's thoroughly ruined and it's what's so weird Is that he was already such a kind of a minor character. Yeah, you didn't need to do anything to it was so tiny He was important story wise But he had such a small presence in these movies and they still found a way To drag him kicking and screaming out of his position of safety and ruin him Who if they not brought back yet like oh, there's still plenty Jha-jha yeah Qui-gon good time which by the way, it'd be like I said, it'd be really funny if they actually don't bring in kwigan I think they will The force goes I'm memeing with you for the fact that you have said almost every episode. These definitely covered it It's just like it would be funny if they did because of all of the predictions. You've already with just leave him alone I know what you're gonna do and it's not gonna get much worse. Yeah Yeah, he'll give a Obi-Wan the final pep talk that pushes him back Ah, yeah, I... Yeah, cuz he needs another. He does need another. He needs another pep talk. He's not resolved yet. He's doing one more episode. He's been inspired by Leia in episode two with some of the lines she gave him. Probably even more to come from her. Then he's been inspired by, I forget her name, Lala... Lady. Lala? Leila? Leila? Leila! That's like the song. It makes me think of his song, Leila. Rumbau. She gave him an inspirational little thing before she died heroically. That was... That was a... That was an easy prediction, apparently. Yeah, yeah. When will Kenobi get to do something that's more so about his agency? Cuz, well, that's not a really dumb decision. I'm just waiting. Maybe one day. Here's a pitch, right? Because we've got a problem right now. Which is the... Riva's told us, I was stabbed along with all my friends. I laid down. I was dead. And then I eventually just joined up with the Sith inquisitors and started doing everything they told me to do to hopefully get close enough to Vader to kill him. Also, I hate you, Kenobi, because you let us all die in the temple. And, of course, they're not gonna do the intelligent thing, which is make these characters fucking address the point. Have Kenobi say, do you have any idea where I was or what I was doing? I barely survived Order 66. Why? My lizard bit it. It was a really sad day for me. Cuz I want to clarify quickly... Why didn't you take time to hate him? Wait, hang on. I want to clarify quickly that it's okay to hate him from a character's point of view, but it would be irrational cuz you don't have the information you need. Yeah, I can totally see the perspective of fuck you, Master Kenobi, you're like one of my heroes and you weren't there to protect us. I can see that, but you have to have him be like... Purely emotional. I was on one of the most important missions for the Jedi and I was betrayed by my entire squadron of clones. Like, I'm sorry I wasn't there, but you have to understand... Yeah, I'm not omnipotent. Order 66 wasn't just in the Jedi temple. I could see that scene actually existing and we'd be like, okay, fine. Yeah, I would like it. There's a conversation they should have because Obi-Wan should have things to say. This is part of his closure. I'd say it's a frustrating aspect of bad stories when there's a scene that's happening and there's just sentences and things which should be said. Her rage against Kenobi is what? Stopping them from working together. So Kenobi should be like, look, you don't understand. There was a lot of shit going on there that you missed because apparently you never found out what happened to me during Order 66, which is weird because you're a Sith inquisitor. Is there any reason that she's latched on to Kenobi specifically? Anakin was your padawan. Yeah, I think that's her reasoning. I mean, he was also the responsibility of the Jedi as an order. As a council. Yeah, let's not split hairs on how that works. Are you angry at Palpatine? You should be angry at him, right? Exactly. Exactly. Are we going to bring up the emperor in Palpatine? You're so fucking right. Where is the rage for that? Where is this? Where are we not talking about? Imagine Kenobi said, yeah, I can see why you're mad at me. Are you mad at the clones or the people who ordered the clones to kill all of you and your friends at all? I'm played into this in any way. Are you upset at the emperor? Well, yeah, I'm going to kill Anakin. It's like, there's another guy. Maybe you've heard of him, the fucking emperor of the organization that you work for now somehow. And so what we're getting at now is that... I was really just not a rebel. Because she's just dumb because we have to do... I think they may make her a rebel eventually. She's faced trials for war crimes and torturing children. She's probably going to be a good guy by the end. Good guy in quotations. The problem being is in the back of our heads the whole time, we still have no idea why she's happily murdering everybody. And if you wanted her to try and argue, like I had to in order to kill Vader, it's like, we know that's bullshit, so don't even try that. That's not even close. That's a lie. You've been killing people well after you've had the chance to attack Vader. So no, you need a better reason. And I was just thinking as an alternative, imagine the reason that she was spared because she played dead and then submitted herself to the Sith inquisitors without them doing anything to her, which I still don't understand. That doesn't make any sense to me. What if... And this is a bit dark, so maybe Disney just wouldn't be able to do this. What if she's standing there with like two other friends? Anakin's coming to kill them. He killed a few other kids in front of them. And she, out of like a desperation, decides to kill her friends to show that she's actually on... She's like, I'm with you. I'm not one of them. Like a desperate child's sort of viewpoint of... There's something there. We developed that her whole idea is, I've been doing everything I can to simply survive. And then Kenobi can be the character to be like, and how much of yourself is left. You know, try and reach her that way. That she justifies she's killed loads of children and people all over the planet because she's had no choice. Classic character arc like that. Yeah, like, I was just a child. I was trying to survive. Like, has that child survived? Well, I assumed that they got the inquisitors from like Jedi sensitive children that they essentially just like propagandized and brought up in the dark side. I assumed that's where they got all these inquisitors from. So I assumed that she was at the temple, got captured. And then it's like we talked about with the Halo show. How it's a lot more interesting that someone's actually kind of brought up a certain way. And as a result, they have particular character traits. I assume that that's what it would be. They rounded up a bunch of... Yeah, I assume they've rounded up a bunch of these young kids. They're young enough to where they're not like super into the Jedi thing, but they're force sensitive and they're semi-trained in that lifestyle so we can start turning them into inquisitors. And that's what happens. She totally buys into it. The propagandizing of like, you know, we're not the bad guys. The Jedi have been trying to take over the whole world. The Jedi have been horrible. You're not like the Jedi, are you? And then they'd be like, whoa. And then the kids who managed to not, they resist or they fight back. It's like you kill them, you just execute them and then you change the world. But you're right, yeah. That would make more sense. I mean, it's like you're attacking and killing a friend to show that she's on the evil guy's side or something, you could do that maybe. But what they've opted for is, I play dead. After I got stuck, look, they've made a joke of being stabbed through the stomach with a lightsaber. Which is amazing, yeah. It happens to her twice and she lives both times. And then you have the grand inquisitor. He gets stabbed through the chest. And as I said, it's the opposite Leia problem. Leia dies because of sadness. He lives because of revenge. And so he's just around now because that wasn't fatal. Well, they're playing on the whole sith shit. That's the reason Anakin lived is because he was so fucking angry. I'm okay with it to a degree, but this is getting farcical or it's like you chopped my head off but I was too angry to die. It's like, okay. In the real world, if you get stabbed through the gut, I think your mileage really varies of like you can be in agonizing pain for like ages or you can just die very quickly. If it is consistent that being stabbed in the gut doesn't effectively kill you, why do people keep trying to kill each other by stabbing each other in the gut? That's what I want to talk about. Especially when there are clearly more lethal options. We should probably focus less on the fact that she survived that wound and instead focus on the fact that none of them wanted to kill her for some reason. No, they just left her there. Which again, it's like, Vada, this will bite you in the ass. What are you doing? They left her there alive with her lightsaber. With her lightsaber? It would be one of the most pragmatic kills you could ever have to kill her. He literally says we're done with you. And it's like, yes, but you stabbed her. I stabbed her once and it didn't work already. Also, the guy next to me, he got stabbed and that didn't work. I don't know if this is moral. But just looking at that, it really does feel to me. It's like, that should probably be lethal. Feels like that's quite high up and at an angle. Chopping through a whole set of eyes. Chopping through things. I'm going through her sternum. Maybe going through her spine. Maybe her spine, maybe even her lung. It melts everything in that. Exactly. And he leaves it in for a little bit too. It's closed. Which is no joke. Stab stab, stab in and out is one thing. There's no friction keeping it in place with the lightsaber. At least much less than there would be with a sword. If she moves at all and she falls. She flinches in any way. That's more damage than to her. There is definitely friction because we see difficulty from Qui-Gon moving it through the metal door in Phantom Menace. They seem to glide pretty easily. That's a blast door versus a person. Exactly. I don't even know if I'm exaggerating if I say every scene has a shaky camera. Yeah, they like the shaking. I don't know why. Because it's cheap. It's intensity without the work at making an intense scene. Serene scenes as well. Quick shake the camera. Shaky, shaky. It's really distracting and I hate it. It's so bad. We didn't have a layer, I guess, when we kind of have. She's just tech expert now. You would think that there... It does feel weird to just have someone of her age who is just the most skilled and capable at opening this this random door, this random jumble of wires on this one random planet. It's like, you know how to fix this? How? How do you know? How do you have this skill set? How can you do this? Do you have all the talents? You can't say like... Nobody can fit through that to get to the most important wiring for the escape door. It's like, why have you built it that way? That is like, and also how do you get through that? What do you mean? It's really big. Hawkins probably couldn't. You could probably fucking grab... Jabba couldn't eat Jabba. There's plenty of slender women in your organization here. I'm sure plenty of... One of them must know how mechanics work. Please. You must have some actual mechanics. I don't know how mechanics work smaller. Well, then how do you explain Leia? Boom. He's a child. She's not a woman yet. As soon as she gets 18, that's gone. She's vanishes from her brains. Oh. One left. Wow. This was annihilated everyone. Yeah, I was going to say like... 10 seconds. Typical military can total incompetence for inventories, of course. And then they pushed them inside and they put themselves into like a choke position and they still don't really... Not any of them gets an advantage from that. It's really weird because all the stormtroopers come flooding into this one choke point and still basically none of them die even though you could have just blasted everything in there. They've made stormtroopers a joke. When stormtroopers show up and a star destroyer is up there, you should be shitting your pants and thinking that this is a grave moment of peril. We are seriously in danger. And now they show up and stormtroopers are so incompetent and their equipment is so stupid and they send so little of their forces after you. It's like, oh, we're fine. It's only a star destroyer and however many legions of troopers and ships and everything they have. It's fine. We'll be fine because they're so incompetent and worthless that it doesn't even matter. And then we know they have at least one grenade and they don't use it. Don't remind me. You need her to sacrifice herself for this heroic end for her. And it's like, man, you could have just thrown it at them. Dude, they were so proud of themselves for his storyline. So cringe. You can't show us the grenade. It's like, do you see how many people, even when they were out of the field, there was so many of them. You could have, you probably could have killed like 20 of them in one throw. They weren't using, yeah, they didn't set up barricade. They didn't stagger themselves in positions to fire. They didn't use cover because no one uses cover. You could take this random piece of metal and plop it on your arm and it stops blaster shots. But I guess stormtrooper armor is as worthless as ever. It's just total complete military tactical incompetence. Whatever you see in terms of an establishment of soldiers and equipment and positions, it never translates into meaning anything. It's pure what the plot needs to happen. There's never any sense behind anything. Because we know the point where you see stormtroopers. It's like, oh, they're just going to die or be worthless. They're not allowed to do anything consistently. It's just dependent on what we need to have happen in events. Like them shooting her, that was something that we all knew they were allowed to do because the plot was like, yep, that one's okay. And she only got hit the one time while standing in the hallway as a horde of stormtroopers were 20 feet away. She got hit the one time, which is the shocking allowance of the plot. Dude, that fucking load of droid is like nailing loads of them and several of them walk past him. Like, oh, it's fine. It's fine. Yeah, like when she's on the ground, not dead yet, they should just, as they walk by, they just casually finish her off and just keep moving. Stormtroopers have been made so worthless. It's all of the empire. You're never afraid of the empire because they're just shit. Stormtroopers are coming. Getting shit up by the episode. How do you guys take over a galaxy again? Like, how are you? I wonder how that worked out. We're what, like 85% through this show? It doesn't matter how good the last episode is at this point. Oh, yeah. I knew it would be a fucking miracle. What if it fixes everything? Textualize all of it as a dream for Obi-Wan. Yeah, yeah, Obi-Wan wakes up. No, no, no. He's back on his case all of it in a way that it makes all perfect sense. It's actually very clever. Good luck with that. Not possible. Also, did they start the second season with that already? No, so apparently there's a, there was only rumors that they're thinking about a second season. There's nothing confirmed. I mean, I don't see why they wouldn't. They like money. And this one they have to know beforehand that they have a next season. So this one is a limited series. So that's how it's been presented, which means it's probably not going to get another season, I guess, technically. Maybe they'll find some other way to follow it up. Maybe we'll just stick random Mandalorian episodes into it. Oh, yeah. Well, the fact that Uma Gregor said he's on board of doing more stuff, I don't see. It's literally just money on the table. I don't know why Disney wouldn't take it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I say that, but they don't care. They make some weird fucking choices. So yeah, whatever. I don't know if we'll get more of this. We don't want more of this, but... No, but... They don't listen to us. Fuck no. That was exceedingly frustrating. And this was the one that apparently was great. I had people saying, like, wow, this is a really good one. This is really great. And I'm like, oh, I just can't... No, it's really, really bad. This is really bad, guys. This ruins more than any other episode before. Yay. See you for the finale, everyone. Hooray. Wait, for it to be over. I mean, for the finale. Bye. Goodbye, everybody. May the force be with you. Remember when that used to mean something? May the force be with you? Like, it had some kind of a reverence to it. And now it's just, remember, that's a thing people say. Remember when Akbar, when Admiral Ackmar said, May the force be with us. Before the final fight in episode six. It just had this, like, yeah, this is a really serious thing. It's like this blessing, almost. This warrior's blessing we're giving you. It's just, oh, man, it's going to be rough. This is going to be a tough fight. May the force be with you. And now it's just, that's the thing you say. No. Bye. Hello. What'd you bring me? Nobody can hear us right now. What are we, some kind of EFAP minis number 62? What are we, some kind of shit converter podcast? As you can tell, the atmosphere is fiery right now. Well, we can start off on... I would like to comment very lightly on this non sequitur of a thumbnail where they have his face over the tweets and it's like the tweet is nuzzled up underneath his chin and he's just like, hmm, he's very, it looks very strange because they went through the trouble to add a little shadow and then put it under his chin. Making sure that people can see this for the literally opening seconds of the finale minis. By the way, this goofy thumbnail. Yeah. Nothing at all against Elio and News. This is the thumbnail and I thought it's awkward that they put a lot of effort into putting this tweet beneath his chin and have the shadow and he's like, he's resting his chin on it. Like it's a comfy pillow. Also, I can't read it. What's the point of having a tweet there? I can't see who posted that. What it says like... It's an odd creative choice. There's a lot of effort to put in for something that's not... Yeah, a lot went into that thumbnail between the lighting of his face and the shadows and all the stuff behind it. If you want to have a tweet in your thumbnail, you got to choose whether or not that's a battle you want to fight. All I know is that there's a tweet involved. Decapitate it by the tweet. The blade of a sword that's just being held to his neck. Yeah, exactly. There's an artistic quality to it if the tweet is like cancelling him. This is one of the starts of episodes where I have to question myself. I'm alive right now. I'm alive. Yeah, welcome to the final episode of Kenobi. Yeah, that's right. Two hours from now, you're going to wonder, gosh, what was it today that they talked about that weird thumbnail? Or was that... Did that even happen? Was that a dream? Was that just a fever dream of my mind after watching this show that I just imagined them talking about that? I think there are a lot more fever dreamery things on eFap. I'm not going to try and re-say that. I'm just remembering the thing that feels most like a fever dream from all of eFap is the animation of Charles Dance playing Martin Luther King. Ah, I remember that. That was good. It feels like a fever dream. It was. Yeah. Almost a year since that was broadcast to the world from eFap. Crazy. It would seem, because we just saw the results of the premiere of episode 5 of the mini, seems most people thought that was shit too even though I'd heard the wider audiences outside of eFap actually thought episode 5 was great. Crazy, I know. Stop. Now, as for 6, I've heard a lot of different things. It does seem like it's getting positive reception. It's going to do a lot of fan stuff is that that's all I've seen. Just to give you an example, that's pretty non-spoilery. He's going to say hello there. I was so proud of them that at least they didn't do that, but we knew that they were going to do that. I would have preferred to be surprised by that personally. It's the longest one, so they've got the most time to fuck everything up. Awesome, yeah. I'm super excited. What I'm looking forward to is really unimaginatively staged fight scenes that are probably going to be done on just a flat open ground in poor visibility because that seems to be the hallmark of Deborah Chow for some reason. She's an incredible action director, I have to say. Christ on a bike. She cannot stage an action scene to save her fucking life. Even Ryan Johnson had enough intelligence to put a little bit of visual flair into his fights. Even action scene that passes everyone's smell test. You have to break down the throne room fight to be like, hang on a second. He manages to get the grand scale, but it's like choreography is what everybody rips into that one for. I've just realized now that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the fights that have happened with lightsabers in the Disney stuff is on flat ground with no vertical rule. Yeah, there's nothing for people to use in the environment. They can't follow off ledges or anything. They can't use vertical either. The big fight with Kylo and Ray in the water place, that was amazing. Yeah, because that was flat. It just was moving. They bring that from one flat location to the other flat location. Yeah, they do jump across. You don't need it to be like mustafar level of insane. You can do what they did in the OT where it's just someone's up on the stairs. Yeah, well, that's been a good example. But I mean, even in the fight in the front room, they had verticality where they're up on higher platforms. And of course, stop mall. There was a little bit of verticality. And then there was that element with the closing doors, just variables that make the fight a little bit more dynamic. I want some like environmental hazard of just something to make it more interesting. What if we tip out a load of stuff and then light it on fire? Oh, that sounds great. That's a perfect solution. Can it be about 20, 30 feet wide with easy routes around either side but nobody does it? Just the perfect thing that Veda would do. You should write these, Jamie. Perfect. How dare you? I just love the idea that this is going to be some tense fight as well when we know that both characters are alive in the OT. It's like actually nothing of any significance can happen. Just because both of the characters are alive doesn't mean necessarily that it couldn't be an interesting fight. It's just that this show doesn't really have any value. The obvious questions will just be like, so you guys can't do any permanent damage to each other? Well, I say that. He could chop off both of Kenobi's arms and that Disney could be like, yeah, they were robotic in OT. You just didn't know. And he'll just put a little bandaid on it and be like, ooh. Obi-Wan could. He could do highborg things. He genuinely could cut off all of Veda's limbs and then set him on fire. Veda's like, seriously? Come on, man. I still hate you. I think we talked about this. Veda's going to have to lose this fight. It can't work any other way. Otherwise, they've completely fucked it. But at the same time, they will take the opportunity, presumably, to explain why Obi-Wan calls him Darth. Now I am the master. Only a master of evil, Darth. Because Kenobi up to this point only refers to him as Anakin or even Veda. Why does he call him Darth? The reason he called him Darth in the OT was because at that point, Darth Veda was his name. His first name was Darth. He wasn't the title. And so, yeah, there may be some clumsy attempts to try and make it all fit together. I've heard things more. I expect a lot of praise of Leia because this whole show seems to be about building her up and making her out to be just as important as Luke. I don't even know what they can do with her in this episode. If it's going to be, they're running away, Vader in this fight. She's going to defeat Vader and Kenobi simultaneously until it's the top. Tell you one thing I think we're all ready for is that Riva's going to be taking up a lot of screen time and we're going to love it. You will love her or else. Or else. So, yeah, before we get into it, I figure we may as well take a little look-see about what everyone has been saying in Goodall on my showcase. All right. Did you cut any of this? You were a coward. I'm not even editing this bit. The scissors on screen right now. Anyway, comment number one. Let's throw it over to Goodall for me. You're really building this up. Riva. Leia's message in A New Hope should have been General Kenobi. Nine years ago, you hit me in your coat like a Looney Tunes episode. Isn't that fucking hilarious? Also, feel weird being in comment showcase. But cool. Well, you're in it for a second time. Yeah, you made it again. Once we get this episode out of the way, we can finally crystallize that criticism fully because whatever journey she shares with Kenobi, this will be the last of it. It's already pretty bad, Jay. You got this one. Okay. Two, you fucking lie to me. I'm so sorry. I don't see any shields. That's because nobody would be stupid enough to infiltrate it, except for one Jedi who managed to get inside, steal a valuable holocron from one of the inquisitors and managed to escape almost unscathed. For some reason, they didn't fortify their defenses after that critical oversight. Is this referencing all in order? All in order. The war had been told because I didn't play that campaign. Not only did Cal Kestis is his name, not only did he break in and steal shit from them, meaning they've been attacked there before, there's a line something about the shields of that base having to be disabled. I've disabled the shields on the outer sections of the fortress. And this is Disney's canon, by the way. Yeah, it's the same base. I own this game, but I've not played it. I could just I'm going to have to play through all the whole thing just to find the source. It's just funny as hell, I guess, because they were like, it'll be too difficult to come up with anything for why they would get the shields down. Can we just say that they don't have any? But why wouldn't they be? It's like, because they don't expect anyone to attack. That's good enough. Yeah, okay, put it in. And then it's like, wait, but we met a game with us, not the case. Like nobody plays video games. After that attack, they were like, no one was stupid enough to try this again. Remove the shields. I once considered installing it and then I didn't. You can't just pull rank on a security officer when you don't have clearance. If an army major showed up at Area 51 and told the guards that he outranks them, he wouldn't just get let in. They'd arrest him and convince his identity and then throw him out. No, all he has to say is, I'm here on classified stuff. Leave me alone. That's totally how it works and it'll get you right in. This is what happens when people with absolutely no military experience are required to write military organizations. It's not even a military experience. I would do that. Yeah, I have no military experience, but I have seen Star Trek. I could do better than this. That was written by people with military experience, but then you could get consultants and you could speak to people at least. Is this plausible? Is this how an officer would conduct themselves and they'd be like, are you fucking kidding? No. You fucking wish they would bring on someone to advise them. You can have a fictional world where maybe it's a little different, but the whole thing is that all of these, the way that officers conduct themselves is based on logic and a means to an end. They all have a goal. That's why these systems are here. Obviously, they're all going to act at least to a degree within accordance to that goal. It's not just going to be like, you're not going to be able to get into a place by going, yeah, I rank you, let me in. I'm going to tell on you if you don't let me in. Tom says it's my turn in the fortress inquisitorious. I'm not supposed to read the second comment on the screenshot. Wow, that was delayed. Holy shit. We've already passed another comment. Another one. Leia. I am the daughter of Senator Bale Organa and the Empire's number one most wanted criminal. Obi-Wan Kenobi is going to come and rescue me, Imperial secret police officer. Wonderful. If this show wasn't a complete dumpster fire and there were any consequences for actions, she would just have gotten her entire family branded as traitors. And the show wants us to believe she is smart. What a great scene to set the tone for the remainder of the episode. Yeah, that's pretty bizarre. I love it. She has no reason to even say it, but she's like, Obi-Wan Kenobi is going to rescue me. It's like, oh, damn. This fucking kid almost destroys everything. It's just mind boggling. Like this is the kind of thing that turns people against her character. I think most people are just going to try and think of like 10 year old Leia. It's not Leia. It's fine. Well, this whole show, I think a lot of people like it didn't happen, man. It didn't fucking happen. I still just can't believe that she knows everything according to Tala. What's that name? Fucking dumb as that. Yeah, she knows everything. That by the way. Okay. Forget Ewoks beating stormtroopers to death with sticks. That lady literally planted her head on that stormtroopers helmet and he just insta-died. You did say head. She planted it. If she had bite him, that would have been a bit more badass. Okay, but she did. She gently sort of goes. Yeah, there wasn't even a strike there. It was like she grabbed the base of his helmet and just kind of pulled him down and that was it. That was the second one. Yeah, that was funny as fuck because it looks like both her and the actor in the stormtrooper outfit don't know what's supposed to happen when she does that. She grabs his helmet and they both like, you got me. You pressed my off switch, man. It's like, you'd think they would at least have decent action choreographers to handle this stuff. Nope. But every single action scene is just garbage and it's like they go with the first take that they do. It's like, oh, fucking good enough. Move on. It's interesting because they rely so much on the action and yet they put so little effort into the action at the same time. Yeah, because it's not even like a slap. It's like she just takes her open hand and sort of she kind of just puts a hand on it. It's like, you know how you can like drape a cloth over a parrot and convince that it's nighttime? Yeah, I do know that. It feels like she's put her hand over his eyes and he's going, oh, it's dark. I'm going to fall asleep. It's sleepy time for me. That was episode fours. These are episode fives, many ones now. These are hot off the presses. Dear Disney, don't be too proud of this audiovisual terror that you've constructed. The use of CGI and nostalgia is insignificant next to the power of good writing. There's a neat variation of a good old Vader quote, audiovisual terror. You know, that's a good way to describe it. Yeah. Yeah, all the CGI isn't even that great anyway. It isn't. Yeah, it's passable most of the time and then sometimes you're like, oh, that looks pretty good. We'll have a moment of silence for Wade as well. Oh, yeah, we should definitely do that. I was so invested in him. I think that's a perfect emblem of the thought process behind so many of these Disney properties though. It's like a character that's introduced and like literally 30 seconds later is dead and you know nothing about him, but there's this big like morning scene afterwards where you're expecting to feel bad for them. We know, we learned a lot about Wade. Yeah, it's just emotional attachment. That's what they want. It's like they don't want to put any work into it. It's just here, feel bad about this character. I know it's time to move on to the next thing. I can't wait for like the Wade like trading card to appear in some game somewhere because that's 100% going to happen. He's going to get his own spinoff. I think they like doing spinoffs for characters that we that have like a confirmed death that's like not that high stakes, I guess. Although it's fair, you know, you know, well, the dark side is the pathway to many abilities that someone considers to be unnatural. He knows, you know. God, Wade, what have you not dealt with? We only know the tip of the iceberg right now. There's a lot to unearth. Yep, here is your problem. Someone said this thing's evil. Yep, here's your problem. Someone said this thing to evil. I love you. As I expected, Riva's motives make no sense. She saw that Vader killed her friends. Therefore, she is angry at Obi-Wan who trained him for not saving her. Why didn't he just say I was on Utapau, attacked by the clones, and therefore she serves Vader. Hunt's all-remaining Jedi. Fries to kill them chops hands off and tortures a child to find the rebels. She is a horrible person and I cheered when she was stabbed but then she left. Damn it. It does seem just absolute nonsense. There's just nothing here that makes any sense at all. You fuckers with your child killing. I'm going to kill some children to show you. All of that was written and approved and then put into production. Riva was like, where were you when the clones attack? He's like, you're fucking kidding me? Well, couldn't it have been neat for Obi-Wan to be like, where were you when Leia was being tortured? Oh, right. You were torturing her. She'd be like, hey, that's different. The thing is, no, that would require Obi-Wan to have her come back to something and that's clearly not allowed in this show. Like he just kind of takes everything that's thrown at him. Kenobi is like a bad concept spread of a too much bad execution. Pilibus baganius. It's so nice to see the Bilbo memes. It's still alive and well. Classic. Those are some old school memes. I do like as well if someone said like, Kenobi's a good idea. It's just badly executed. No, it's all just horrible. It's really not. Yeah, it's terrible. Should have never been made. On the spot. No question. I want revenge on Obi-Wan for failing to protect all of the Jedi. I'll get my revenge by helping Darth Vader kill all of the Jedi. And then I'm dead. Genius. Hey, it's subversive. Okay, no one saw it coming. It's funny because everyone saw it coming. Yeah. Maybe they disappointed that. Oh, I thought that idea was great. Damn. I love how close Vader was to finding out he had kids. If only he looked to his freaking right. He had seen that little transceiver picked it up in like Balogana children. Oh, and Tatooine. Don't worry. It's fine. I love how that message how it's kind of garbled and corrupted and it just happens to play the most like useful bits of information that could possibly display. I'm just surprised how not durable that thing is. Just falls down once and just the transmission just breaks. It isn't half as durable as Riva is. And it's crazy because let's pretend she actually gave it to Vader. That's not going to happen. But if she did and then and then she's like see Balogana is evil. We need to he's a traitor. He'd be like, yeah, we know that already. All the stuff is happening in the season. We know that already and we're going to take him in for sure. But this show doesn't seem to believe that at all. The Star Wars character receives a death blow but they're mildly upset. Oh, no. Poor Qui-Gon. Those people in the chat, the live chat of the video were just like, what was the fuck Qui-Gon though? Everyone was just like, yeah. Look at him, Qui-Gon. He had a weak stomach. He was just lying there for hours. Nobody helped him. I thought you were dead. I was. I was. I like the title of this is his second stomach called 9-1-1 and the paramedic revived him. I think to finish it off is just the classic. We did bring it up but I mean, how can you not? Has a grenade to kill all the stone troopers since the beginning. Uses it after a shit ton of wrong people have died anyway. It's not even unaffectively or ineffectively. That's often a trope that you see in movies and stuff is you have a very some force, often the bad guys have a very powerful weapon but they use that weapon not at the beginning to open the fight where it will be most effective. They'll use it when they need to have like a in-fight low point so then the bad guys will use it. It's the same. Your second win thing, right? Oh, no. 3 is quite expensive so let's send in a whole bunch of our troops first and let them get slurred. It's like, ah, it didn't work. Okay, bring it out. It would have been great if you would use the big gun first. You could have saved a lot of time and effort. Well, it's fun you say that, Rags, because they did open with the big gun trying to break open the barrier in that episode. It turns out the lightsaber could have just done it instantly. That was mind boggling. That was amazing. Remember how she said they could hold out there for days? Yeah, apparently not. By days, I mean maybe maybe a few minutes, seconds even. She literally cuts it and opens it. It's like, oh. They were completely confident that they'd be able to fly away in their ship if they could just get the hangar doors open because they wouldn't have a star destroyer in orbit ready to fire on that the moment the doors open. It's like, no, no, no, no. It's not in the scene so it's not there. So anyway, are you guys ready to watch the end of Kenobi? Lou real quick and we'll start. I'm not going to permit you to use the Lou Rags. I was going to say, he just left. He didn't even wait for me to approve that. Wow. Yeah. The chip reports are for Rags. Come on. So it has to be approved by you, the primary host since it's on your channel, and me as the manager. Well, and Metal as well because he's going to drink it, so. Wait, what? Nothing. I didn't say nothing at all. It was a secret, goddammit. Now everybody's going to hear it. Can't wait for those metal piss memes. It's going to be great. Rags didn't mute himself. We're just going to hear him shitting in the background. Oh, no. It's so sharp. Yeah. It's so sharp. Ready to have my socks knocked off. Bring his knock out of socks on. All right, we can wait for that. I'm good now. I also do not have socks on. I do have socks on. I don't know if this changes the dynamic. I've got them on. Of course. Seems like an even split, sort of, of socks. I can take one off. I think that would help. That's for the best, I think. All right. Three, two, one, go. I missed. Big tin of nuts. You missed the button. We need to try that again. What you actually did. So what happened was he started the countdown and I was like, all right. And I had to, like, desperately move forward and grab the mouse. And in that time, you'd go to the end of the countdown. And then I rapidly moved towards the button with the mouse. But I wasn't able to hit it. What did you think this was worth telling? Yeah. If we spent, like, an hour lining up for a group photograph, you would have it on selfie mode or something. Instead of saying I misclicked, you feel the need to explain every part of that. Here's the nature of my misclip. Go. We did it. Where is he? Kenner Bay. Kenner Bay. Do not use any of our orbital cannons or the store destroyer. Lock down the facility. Remember when we used to have subtext in scenes? No. You didn't have to spell everything out. Look, okay, that was like a decade ago. Maybe several. It is legitimately interesting how long you could just stand in a massive group of stormtrooper shooting at you and just not instantly get destroyed by many, many shots. It is genuinely the thing I wonder, if you had that many and they all shoot once at the same time, is everyone dead? Probably. I think even if we assume in the back that was a ship, I don't think that checks out, like, from the position. No, I mean... Well, he let it go away. There's a lot that doesn't check out about that scene. It's just so much. Revenge does wonders for the will to live, don't you think? Oh, my luck's in this. Dude. You know what I love seeing in shows like this as well? It's like people using force powers and abilities that they absolutely can't use like 10 years later. Yeah, I forgot. One of the things I saw people discussing was like, will Kenobi finally fight the ground inquisitors? And I was like, I don't know if there's enough time? Yeah. It's more so just about trying to see if you can figure out what kind of narrative they're going to run with. Was that a shelf in their small toss? I thought there was a sink in there. Yeah. That's where we were at with Star Wars. I don't know if it's a shelf. Like a sink. Star Wars shelf? It's the inside of a room from the Star Wars hotel. Yeah. You need to put just a fork in there at some point. Ray, we're back on that point. No, this is actually good. I'm glad we're back on that. Well, to be fair, Kenobi ain't going to be here. This is going to be Owen, right? There's a key for the water. Oh, is this the... It's the meat guy. It's so baffling that the one show that should have been entirely on Tatooine is the one that wasn't. She's here already? She's already here. She put on a... What spaceship was available for her? She's got a blanky so that she's... That'll do it. Yeah, you're right. What ship did she use? Well, yeah, that's a fair question. So we've outright skipped all of that. She's on Tatooine now. And she's near her. Oh, they do give a shit about... Oh, boy. Now they remember the Star of Destroyer. Now they remember it. To be fair, they said at least that they're being chased. That's all. It's not good enough. They're dead. They're destroyed. Use your tractor beam. Use your Tidefire. The Tandoor 4 was captured. It wasn't like... What is going on here, Empire? Yes, it gets you out from there. Oh, man, they seem pretty confident about their escape, even though... They really shouldn't be. Yeah. It's a miracle that you're not destroyed now. Power couplings are bad. I'm working on it, but those shields won't last forever. Oh, it lasts forever? They shouldn't last like 10 seconds. I don't understand. The Star of Destroyer focusing its power on you. This would be a quote from a battleship today. Blasted away at a fucking... A little warbark. With all of its guns. I can take this for more than a couple of days. It's like they've forgotten that the Falcon tried to escape through an asteroid field. It wasn't just... We'll just float around them for ages and hope. And who knows how long this has been going on for? You can see the misses going past the window. Explosions. Yeah. Everyone should be shitting their pants right now. I should borrow her, too. I really feel like this isn't the right tone for the scene. Oh, alright. We're done with that. Yeah, there's Owen, alright. A Sieger of Star Destroyer is something that, you know, that's a multiple scene affair. I've forgotten about him. Remember Luke Skywalker, anybody? Man, he's got a grand future ahead of him. Owen, there's something you need to know. Wait, if they're warning him about Reaver, he's fine, he'll just be out. You know this plan makes sense. Obi-Wan just described something in the show as making sense. Yeah. You are the future. You're what needs to survive. No. He needs to be given space. Fuck off. You're a hand off of me, or I swear to God, I'll cut it off. Why are you in this episode three fucking times? You must promise me that you'll get her home, Haja. You have my word. He's entrusted the care of Leia to this guy now. That's just, okay, the guy who he called like outright liar in episode three and hated. Well, that, too, yeah. That was his gig. They should be leaving the Empire. If the Sith is after you, then you need to leave. You've got to get out right now. There's not even time to pack tiny kips. Fucking Bale of Ghana. Bale's. What? God damn it, it's your life, woman. You need to leave. No, you're not. You are literally two invalids against the Sith. You're fucked. They're trying to make her out like she's the tri- What? You're going to kill the Sith? She'll come when the suns go down. Best we got position now. How do you know that? Why would she do that? Okay, wait. My brain's exploding. What the fuck just happened? Clearly, she's being portrayed as correct and brave when everything she said is ridiculously stupid and suicidal. I'm Baru and Uncle Owen have both just been ruined. They've been ruined. There's so many layers to this that are wrong. Like I said, my expectation is they must have had a failsafe in place. They are holding the son of the most dangerous fucking empire person in the entire universe. The second they have any reason to think he knows they have to leave Tatooine. That's how it works. That isn't the failsafe. Okay, so what is it then? He's like, hide in the desert. I'll accept that even though it should be. Better in our house. Excuse me? She's like, we're gonna fight this. This woman needs to be stopped. Owen, you need to tell him. We have a gun and no sense. They don't know what kind of force she's bringing with her either. There could be a legion of stormtroopers right behind her. We know it's just her. Presumably. Owen's been told there's a Sith lady who's been asking questions and is looking for Luke. You have to leave Tatooine. You have no choice. What reason do you have to think that she hasn't told anybody else in the empire about what she's doing and who she's looking for? What an insane scene. Our characters just conclude the best defense we have is to just allow her to come and we'll shoot her with our blasters. It's a pretty prime example of trying to get the scene over and done so quickly that people don't have time to process how dumb it was. It was like 30 seconds. It was all done just to give her that little hero moment because I guess she's not had any real screen time in the series. He suggested running away and putting friends in danger. What an awful plan. She's the heroic idea of we'll stay here, we'll fight her and we will win. How can nobody in this show ever have conversations about utilitarianism or anything or consequentialism in terms of the nature of what you were trying to protect. It's not just Luke. It's like any and all hope that the future will be better for everybody. There's no conversation about how big the stakes really are. It's all nothing but an appeal to emotion. A character can make some impassioned speech about literally anything and everyone around them will just go along with it. Well, everybody crumbles in the face of an emotional appeal. Nobody ever has a counter-argument that we know that they would have. It's really annoying when you watch a story and there's this obvious answer to what someone said and the show just will not let anybody say it. They'll try and move past as quickly as possible or what will happen is the character who gets rebuked will look and then they'll look to the ground or something. Although they got nothing to open their mouth but they won't say anything. When everybody who's watching knows what the real arguments are. We need Owen to say, hey, how many Sith have you killed? Is it five? They're going to make another story. They're going to make another series called Baru. And it turns out that she's actually a Sith Hunter. She was a Jedi the whole time. I can't believe she's killed many Sith. She's the real hero. A new hope. I never got the impression that there was a close call when he almost was found. Do you believe that Aunt Baru and Uncle Owen defended their house from a Sith attack at some point? No. It would be that they lived a very normal life for 17 years. Everything was normal. It was completely uneventful. Did you catch as well that she blames him for Obi-Wan not being here? Excuse me. We have no fucking clue what happened to him. The whole reason she knows that Obi-Wan isn't here is because Owen just said he's not here. The implication being I tried to find him. And he's gone fucking around somewhere else in space. What a horrible scene. The conversation I was going to have with Obi-Wan and Bale. I liked a bunch. I had to find a Sith in Quizno. Dude, I guarantee you they'll never tell him why this happened. They should never, ever, ever think that it's safe to be in Tatooine now. No, of course not. They've been found. We don't know if she told any other Sith. Exactly. We don't know. So we're not going to stay here. They have a gun. It would be very reasonable if she did tell someone else. Of course. Why would she not? She's a rogue element, but that's rare. That's our knowledge. That's our knowledge, exactly. They could learn all that over the course of this episode which would excuse why they don't leave after this. I don't even think that's enough. Honestly, no. If I were reassured by herself, she says, you know what, I'm actually a good guy and I didn't tell anybody. Not Riva herself. 100% would be like I didn't tell anybody. It's like, yeah, but you're a Sith. There's so many ways they may have found out as a result of you knowing or the fact that you're here. Just not. Everybody has seen you here. That's very strange, Riva. I am currently just trying to figure out how bad it is rather than... Oh, it could work. No. It's a catastrophe. This is why we need to pause because I think this is incredible damage done in a minute. Fucking Baru. We were shocked when they were all pale. Nobody is safe. And fucking Baru just got like, like, what an idiot. Everyone is a fucking moron. I mean, Owen too for going along with everyone in the show gets tainted. Every single person that they bring into these shows gets torn down and made to look like an idiot. It looks like we've got the rebels are trying to escape. Kenobi's gonna draw off Vader to save them. And the B-plot will be Riva's attack upon Uncle's little house. I can't believe this is the episode, but apparently that's it. This is the end. This is the end of the season. Yeah, and of course, he's baffled. He's just like, oh, I can't do anything. I couldn't possibly tell this woman that she's wrong and that she's being the most retarded person on the planet right now. Thank you. I assume that's what you were doing. You're welcome. So I get it. You said you'd take me home. Shut the fuck up. Are you ungrateful little brat? I've risked my life for you countless times. But if they have a big moment here, what's hard to do is risk his life for her. Please tell your father I tried. I guess you did. I hate you both so much. I hope something for you. It's a broken found before we got out. Wait, how? That's the lady's holster. The other side gives me a faster troll. Can you teach me how to shoot? How do you have that? Also, what are you going to put in there? I guess a gun later. Well, that's the meme, right? Everyone keeps talking about how she's going to become Leia that we all know. I wasn't going to give you a blaster Leia. You're 10 years old, but you won't always be. Why do you just say what she does at the OT at this point? Imagine Leia comes back, Obi-Wan's gone. They're being chased by a tourist ray or something. Oh, I got this holster. It was just the thing that he had on him. Leia uses blasters in the OT, guys. I don't know if you remember. I picked this holster up. I feel like I should have just picked this up and kept this with me. I promise. People have to promise things that they can't guarantee. Why can't you just say I'll try? Why isn't that good enough? Why are you showing so much scenes of emotion between those two when they really don't give a fuck about each other that much in the OT? I have to face him, master. Oh, this could be it. No, it really doesn't. There's a whole trilogy. How did they not think that line would be funny? They're going to destroy the both of you. How many times have these two characters had this discussion at this point? Wasn't this all that happened yesterday? Last episode, I mean. I can't quit. I fought for too long. You can't just throw that away. It won't make a difference. They want all of us. They don't want me. If you surrender, she died for nothing. You want to tell me, are you going to fight without a weapon? There are other ways to fight. You don't have to do this, you know. We can still fix the drive. I have to go. Just keep them safe. It's amazing you're alive. You know what, you know what? Maybe the chances are we could just fuck it up instantly using the force. Wait, I just realized this is the third time Why can't you just force grab it? An Obi has said, like, I need to stay behind and sacrifice myself so that everyone else can get out. And it never actually happens. Yeah. Vader could rip apart the hull with the force. No, he can't. That was just to make all the real Star Wars amazing channels go, ooh, isn't that amazing? I've seen defenses already that the Millennium Falcon and the other ones, they were going too fast. Really? Last Jedi moment. There's one life form aboard. Well, then just send the Thai fighters after it. Uh-oh. My lord, we must continue our pursuit of the insurgents. Both, you have Thai fighters. Just do both, you have loads of ships. Yeah. We cannot prioritize one lone Jedi. There are Star Destroyers from other parts of the galaxy. There must be loads of them. He is not just any Jedi. You have loads of ships? Why are you doing this, Vader? You have a hangover of Thai fighters. You have a hangover of Thai fighters. You could have shot it. Wow. Follow Kenobi. Wow. That's fucking stupid. That's literally the proto-rebellion and it survives because Vader was like, nah, look, it's a little fishy over there. And they're not even going to be able to get Kenobi. No, they won't. God, they literally can't. Fuck me, dude. That's so embarrassing. It's the most incompetent military force in all of fiction. Okay, wait. I'm actually kind of confused because if Kenobi has Hyperdrive, he could just leave now. But if he doesn't, then he's going to get captured. So what's going to happen? Run? No, you're not supposed to run, remember? Running is not what we do. Man, if these two die, just run. Really? Fucking useless parents. Jesus Christ. What they should do, they're not even doing anything. Oh, the store will stop them. They're not doing anything clever like making it look like they left. I can't believe we're gearing up for an unbrew Uncle Owen action scene. I can't believe this is happening. Where are we? Is this a planet? Lucky there's a planet, I guess. There's just a planet here because in space you just run into those. He just said, Oh, he got to the planet. So why didn't you just take your own ship out and chase him while everyone else does the rebel thing? Man. I guess he just got away. The writing just says he got away and there you go. Because of course we can't have Vader land with a bunch of stormtroopers. It has to be him alone because otherwise the scene will be fucked. Because we want to have them... Oh, there's a ship that they could have used to pursue here. Dude, they literally are making the Empire just wait while they have their scene. Instead of having them chase the rebels. That's amazing. An entire Star Destroyer just sitting up there doing nothing. Indeed you are powerful as the Emperor has foreseen. Prepare my shit. Why is this stupid robot here? It's a merchandise, please buy a product. Yeah, why did you steal Leia's toys? What's the point? Does he think the track is still active? No, it's not red anymore. That's so fucking fun. Blue and blue is good like lightsabers and red is bad. By the way, in terms of getting us to the point where they can have their big big duel it's like, well, there's a planet and they both landed on it. Okay. Such talent. Oh, here we go. Dude, I want a glow and a non-baru to have lightsabers. Yeah, this is probably the best time to... Is that your position you wanted to take? Is it bad that I actually think there's a chance they will show her chop those two in half? What is the motivation to try and kill Luke? That's what I was asking. Why does she want to kill Luke so much? Yeah, because she doesn't know exactly who he is yet, right? She just wanted to try and kill Vader. That was her motivation. She doesn't actually want a bunch of Jedi. She just did that to get at Vader. So why does she want it? Maybe the motivation could be I'll kill Vader's son, because he doesn't know who Luke is, right? No, no. What would that even do to Vader when he doesn't even know? Yeah, I mentioned her just going back to Vader. You had a son. I killed him. Maybe that's what Uncle Owen asks. He's like, why are you here? And she goes, uh... Dude, she just screams at him. I don't know. If she did actually kill them both and Luke wakes up the next day and he's just got a different uncle or someone else in. This is our chance for actual dialogue. Come on. You can do it. I wish I could burn you here. Have you come to destroy me? What? You're the one that arrived here! I will do what I must. Did it what? That line didn't make any sense at all. What the... You come to destroy me, what? He was right. Vader, you see, Nile? God, here we go. They did the Kenobi stance, though. They are a big flat open plane. So underwhelming. Even if I was invested in this series, this fight seems underwhelming in the way it's presented. I can't see the rules. It's going to fall down. I can barely... That was necessary. But if you can't see, they don't have to work on choreography. The soundtrack is... It's trying. The problem is that when they're fighting the prequel was the music, man. The music is incredible. Have access to all that music? Well, they don't. Because John Williams only did the main theme for this show. I was kidding. They probably do have access to it. They probably have access to those songs, though. Like they could... They probably still said, make a new one. Maybe that was the thought of making a new one. You had one job. You had one job. One fucking job, Owen. Man, you should've positioned yourself that one's on the left and one on the right. They are lucky she's not using the force to kill them right now. And that she's deflected none of the shots back into them. It's almost like they have... really infinite plot armor. They cannot be killed in this scene. Every character except Riva has one right now. Pretty much, yeah. Which means Riva's dead this episode. What if Aunt Baru kills her? With her own lightsaber? Whoa, the way he was holding the lightsaber there was a bit awkward. It's a shame they weren't very good against a bunch of stormtroopers from the Gephakan burnt up. Was that? And now we're reading from Wikipedia. In his injuries, his natural strength was augmented by the addition of his cybernetic enhancements. In addition, Vader retained his proficiency in the force to enhance his physical abilities. In the end, he was a more effective warrior than he had ever been before Kenobi had maimed him. Strength has returned. Oh, thanks. I held back the ocean a few episodes ago just so we're clear. But the weakness still remains. Wait, the weakness still remains. Wouldn't you just say the weakness remains? Yeah, that's what's remaining is. It's still there. Oh, did they... were they trying to do a pullback to that move in the Phantom Manor still? Well, I slipped. I mean, your feet, your ankles are destroyed. Yeah, that was a rock. And that is why you will always lose. How did you... How did you know there was a cave there or whatever? How did you know that? Unless that was actually ground in which case, holy fuck. Is he gonna say I have my ground? Oh, my God. Oh, no, okay. I can't wait for that video on Steve. Now Darth Vader has the high ground. This is a callback. Sorry, what? So, Kenobi's dead? Yeah, so Kenobi is dead. Kenobi is a puddle of goo. Did you truly think that you could defeat me? Oh, what a great fucking line. Did you truly defeat me? Master, you have failed, Master. So unfair that they get to have Vader deliver this garbage. Yeah, that's the ending. Okay. Oh, credits. Nice. Awesome. Thank fucking Christ. Oh, God. Oh, jeez. Oh, well, Rip. Oh, yeah, you should have done that earlier. They really love the boy. If he left him, he would have left. He is your own. He is my own. I like that line. That's the one good thing in this whole show, actually. Damn. I like that swing. He was able to do it. There you go. Oh, wow. I can't believe Uncle Owen is like taking on a Sith and causing it unironically. Uncle, there you go. There you go. She couldn't do any pivot of damage. Oh, we still got our Baru left. Come on, baby. You can get it. Oh. So you're dead. Oh, she didn't kill either of them. No, she didn't kill her. Okay. Also, Rags, just in case you missed it, he did say what are you doing or why are you here or something. And she said justice. Justice for what? I don't even understand. Oh, she's screaming. She's going to get you. So, Luke, remember that plan about running away? It's going to actually work. He can just run away. He'll be faster than her. She's all injured. I love that he poked her in a literal gaping hole. Oh, my God. Why gone? Where are you? Yeah, this would be another good time. It'll be like the Spider-Man homecoming scene. Yeah, I am Obi-Wan Kenobi. And I am all the bowlers. Oh, we're getting voices. Oh, it's the voices from this season. No, thank you. No. Those were into the set. There's some, some there. Yeah, you made me another great line. Where are you, Qui-Gon? Yeah, he's got to do it for Leia. Oh, they threw a vision of Luke. It's mainly Leia. It's not really about Luke, because they don't have any fucking footage of Luke. I got some. I'm actually surprised that it wasn't Qui-Gon. Not Qui-Gon. That would have been a really good time to bring him. He's about to beat him, surely. We needed Qui-Gon before he beats him. Yeah, of course. If we're going to have him. And then Qui-Gon shows up. I was with him the whole time. It was me that beat him. You have a free hand there. He could have killed him. He could have killed him. How are you winning? Wait, what? Wait, what? What are you doing, buddy? Remember how Yoda struggled? This is Darth fucking Vader. Darth Vader can handle this. Oh my God! What are you doing? There was a bull that did something wrong with this. Vader should be able to handle it. God damn it. This is just a planet where the rocks are made of paper. Yeah. I think he was breaking him with the force. I don't think so. They were hitting him. I think it was breaking him. God, that's why it was worse. Yeah, because Vader should be able to force, you know, like matrix style. Stop them in midair. He could have ripped spaceships apart. What the fuck? They hadn't pulled out a spaceship. Remember when Yoda struggled to stop some little rocks from falling on him? Yeah. And he was master Yoda? Remember the grunt he made? We gave up with that ages ago. We're in the Rey Skywalker saga now. That's too late because Kirby's got to win now. Did you just hit him with the butt of the lightsaber? I just want the form of fighting and the role of the Jedi Knight to be special and more spiritual and more intellectual than just a fighter or a superhero or something like that. Yes, he did. Still doing it. How did it do so much damage? It'll be Hayden Christensen voice soon. How old were you not dead from that? That's a wow. Vader's getting... Wow. Vader, you suck now. Breathy, breathy zones. I guess Obi-Wan is just really dominating now. This is literally just to justify the line in New Hope when he's crying himself as the learner. We're going to see his face. So this is one thing I saw written down somewhere was that they ripped off Rebels which is funny. Oh really? The Ahsoka Vader scene, literally this happens. So what is the excuse for Obi-Wan not killing Vader going to be? I don't know. I guess we'll find out. Time for dialogue. You okay? That worked out well. You're ugly as fuck. Look, he's acting. He's trying. He's acting. He's certainly acting. I'm sorry. Sorry for what? I'm sorry Anakin for all of it. Is Palpatine's name going to come up ever? Thanks for reminding me of what we could have had. I am not your failure. Obi-Wan You... didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. The same way I will destroy you. And my friend is truly dead. There you go. We'll kill him then. Yeah, you really should kill him. The last time you let him live, that was a horrific mistake. Goodbye. Oh, there it is. No, you're just walking away. You're letting him live? Obi-Wan, no! Obi-Wan, that guy's going to kill a lot more kids. It's all Obi-Wan's fault. You remember what happened the last time you let him live? He just like confirmed I'm evil evil. And you just walked away. What the fuck Obi-Wan? Look at the destruction of Obi-Wan. You can never just have like one scene that isn't mod by something. You just can't. They were acting. I like what they wanted to do there with Obi-Wan. They fucked it up. They did because he let him live. They even had him say, Yeah, you're Darth Vader. You're not my friend. I feel like we could have aimed We could have aimed better than them just stating at each other. No, of course. I want to make it clear. I am only complimenting the acting. I don't like anything else really. Guys, Riva's trying to get Luke Skywalker. Did she just... Yeah, Obi-Wan. Good job, dude. So Luke Skywalker has been someone used the force on him. Actually encountered somebody who used the force on him, yeah. Because of Obi-Wan. How are you going to get there in time? That's not why you can get there. It takes time to cross the galaxy. It's time. He's going to have to be knocked out. Otherwise this will make no fucking sense at all. We've been doing so many weird time skips and place skips. He's going to be there in time. It needs to be knocked out to make sense. Like, yeah, not like all that other shit. Look, it's me. It's like me. Yeah, you're not going to kill him. They're going to have to show like... Oh my god, they did it! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh man. Oh, they flashed back too. Maybe I'm the bad one. They flash back as well. Why is she doing this? Why? Why did he even kill him in the first place? I don't know who he is. She's literally, we're seeing her make the decision not to kill a child for no reason. What a great character. That's amazing. Like, they're so shocked to us that she wouldn't want to kill this child. I was like, isn't that normal? Oh, they fucked that up too. He's like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. Oh fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. God, you guys have so much explaining to do to each other. He's not around here. He ran like you told him to. Also, he both are alive miraculously. Yeah, she just kind of pushed us over. I don't know, we're looking for him, you fucking idiot. Fucking hell, compare them. They get visited by stormtroopers and they get literally incinerated. She carried him back. Is she going to die of her wounds? Because she doesn't have revenge anymore? Because nobody can kill her here. Nobody can kill Darth Vader so he can't kill fucking anybody anymore. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't show her die so that we can be like, hmm, where does she end up? You know, I don't know. If only there was a mod parlor on Tatooine. I found this boy. Explain your arc, Riva, because I'm following. I'm kidding, by the way. I swear to God, if she said he's me or some shit. Well, guaranteed. People are going to cream over this. They already are. I've only seen bad stuff about this episode so far. Wow. I've seen good stuff. Pull him away from her, by the way. Drag him away. She's dinged. You're an asshole, by the way. What the fuck is wrong with you? She said I did the good thing, right? They're like, yeah, sure. Yeah. Oh, she's crying. Kenobi, look after her. Give her a pep talk. We've got 20 minutes to go. That's true. I don't know why you'd want to. Why would you want to? I failed him. He killed my mom and I couldn't do it. What? Oh, she's saying I failed her friends? Or what? You have given them peace. Not really. They should be really concerned. They probably got stressed, PTSD. They showed up to your house at night and with the red lights. Yeah, kind of. You're pretty evil. You've chosen not to become Vader. Oh, this is so well done that you can just see what the writers wanted to say. Who you become now. It is up to you. She's just going to leave and disappear? Probably. Fall over, please fall over. I beg you, fall over and die. I don't think that's what's happening here, actually. I think she's fine. She'll get a shot. Yes, yes. Oh. Oh. I love how desperate we are to see her die. Fall over. Oh, she's doing the Kylo Ren thing where it's like this is my evil weapon so I can't have it anymore. Why is it that people think that if a character has confused motives and keeps changing their mind that that makes them complex? Why is that the interpretation of characters like this in Star Wars? You just said she's free. You both are. She's going to come back. She'll be in season two if there is one. Oh, she didn't die. Oh, no. God damn it. I'm so surprised we haven't seen Qui-Gon. Maybe he'll be the last thing that we see. Maybe. Oh god, Emperor? Is he in? Oh, and I'm pretty sure that is him. Sounds like him. I think he always wants to play this character, right? Oh, and I love him for that. Perhaps your feelings for your old master have left you weakened. Kenobi means nothing. Kenobi means nothing. It's like, we know that's all true. You kind of went nuts earlier. Okay, bye. It's just his living room. It's pretty excessive, huh? It has a flat screen that descends from the ceiling so I can play Xbox. Time to hone some noobs. I can play Fortnite with Thor. I was about to say Battlefront. What the fuck is the rest of this episode forward? Yeah, it's like... We've got to wrap up our Alderaan stuff, I guess. They're going to spend like 15 minutes on aftermath. How about spending that on the fucking story? Y'all know. It ended as fast as possible. It was like, hey, here's two fights, and now it's over. Literally, I could not envision a simpler ending from where we left off in episode 5. Wow. You didn't do anything. They tried to make it look like she was using a code. That was funny as fuck. Time to brush your hair. You could actually do that. Or you don't have to do anything. You could just not do it. By the way, she doesn't even know what those tally marks mean. Why do you have a fucking holster on? You're not wearing those. What the fuck? This is the scene that she's empowered now. She's going to become Lair in the OT. So of course she has a holster. You fucking idiot. People wear the same fucking clothes every day if they're alive. I love it. You can't let her go out there wearing a holster. Those are designed to carry firearms. She's a child. Without knowing the context of why she's wearing it, shouldn't you be like, holy fuck, have you been playing with guns? Get that thing off. Do they let you have a gun on this planet? Why do you have those gloves on and those boots? Thanks for almost killing all of my nosy friends. I was right. You almost killed a whole family. You said there were many ways to lead. I was right. I'm going to do this. I'm going to want to change a few things. Ten. You're not doing anything. They cannot resist the nostalgia line. She's so great. More cousins? Not exactly. You left Tatooine again? After what just happened? You left Tatooine again? You are a god. Look at that god. Look at this. You're like the most wanted Jedi in the fucking universe. There are stormtroopers here. They're looking everywhere for you. Oh god. Can you please just protect Luke for once? No. I fear for her future. The empire grows stronger. No, actually no true. The empire gets competent briefly. Soon. Did I get their shit together for a couple of years? Man, this is a very public place. Just to be clear, a lot of people are probably watching this. You don't know how loyal those gods are? Those two are like Obi-Wan Kenobi. Holy fuck, is that Obi-Wan Kenobi? Holy shit. Like the people that we kind of actually work for went to him. You're not going to Tatooine. That would be crazy. By the way, if ever you refer to me on a recording, make sure to mention we're not friends and that you're just your dad's friend is what I am. When I said before that I didn't know your parents. Careful. Oh. Oh god. You are smart and funny. Careful. That was from your father. You knew my mother? This is pod racing. He's not going to tell her that Anakin was fearless. And these are gifts from your father. Who gave in to his fear? Yeah, that's the whole point. He's lying. It's fine. You know my real parents? Could you tell me about them? Who were they? What were their names? I wish I could tell you more. Okay, you don't have to. See, she's fine. She doesn't want to know anymore. They go right. It's fine. He doesn't want to know more. That's alright then. That wraps that up in a neat little bow. We want to keep the door open for sequels. Oh, is that it? That's why I left Vader alive. Well, him saying no one must know that we're friends is probably trying to explain why she doesn't refer to him as a friend. Except it doesn't make any sense still. It doesn't make any sense at all though when he dies. And also, her message to him would... Yeah, he's in danger the second she names him on that transmission. It doesn't matter how friendly they are. I mean, these two should be in prison anyway. Like, all of you guys are fucked. The Empire knows about all of this. I'm just amused that they actually did things to themselves like, ah, it sits perfectly in canon. This breaks almost everything. This is so uncannon, it's uncanny. Oh yeah, we'll do. Considering all of this, when he died, Leia should have been distraught. Yeah, she should have been very upset. More so than Luke, really. There wasn't anything you could have done. This is iconic outfit. Where's Qui-Gon? Has he said hello there yet? Or have I missed it? I don't want to be lied to. He best say hello there so I can laugh. The show is going to close on him saying goodbye there. You're leaving your box? He's not taking his box with him. I wasn't going to steal it. I don't want to racially profile, but we know Jawa's. They're not going to talk at all about what happened. Uncle Owen should have so many fucking things to say to Obi-Wan right now. You have no idea. Oh god, think of the criticisms. That's the creature that farts and finds the map. Correct, that is. It might be the exact same one. It's such a fun little desert camel, space camel. That's one of the creatures that farts and finds a man. I thought you were going to keep your distance. Well, I don't give a shit about that. Wait, didn't you desperately want me to help you? You were right. He just needs to be a boy. But that's bad. Isn't that what was happening anyway? The future will take care of itself. Oh, is this his way of saying I won't try to train him? The only protection he needs now, Owen, is you. Sure, that's true. If anything we have learned, he needs you defending him, Obi-Wan. The Empire could show up tomorrow with everything they know. They're probably on their way. I can't believe they've ignored that. They shouldn't be living here anymore. You're a terrible parent and you're a terrible Jedi. You all suck. The creature, the CGI was not matching itself. Oh, that was bad. You want to meet him? Whatever. Oh god, this is where he's going to do it, isn't it? Oh, this could be it. I'm going to say it. I'm going to have to use the Simpsons clip if he says it. Absolutely. I'm actually excited though. Oh, here we go. Kenobi. Yay! Except the thing. Except the thing. That's how it ends, wow. You know what? Where's Qui-Gon? I'm surprised. We still got five minutes. We've got like two minutes left. It could happen. But I guess you won't be encouraging him to fight anybody. I thought he would have been an act low point thing. Maybe this could be him training him to force ghost. How could a force ghost train you to access force ghost? Oh, oh, oh. Oh, wow. That's not okay. When he's absolutely not needed anymore. Is it Liam Neeson? Maybe it's Haldir. Well, it took you long enough. Is it me? Oh, hey. I was always here when we won. It's just when I'm ready to see. Come on, we've got a ways to go. Wait, that's it? Wow, he was in it. He didn't even... None of that is meaningful. That was nothing. That was shit. That was like legitimately awful. That might be one of the key examples of keyjangle I've ever seen. Qui-Gon. Look, it's Qui-Gon. And he said we got to go. Why bother? You had access to Liam Neeson's Qui-Gon. You used it for that. Why? Why? Why? Who the fuck is David? I said David by mistake instead of Vader. Dove David. Why? Remember when he was alone in the ship? That would have been the time to bring in Qui-Gon. And then it's like when he was buried by the boulders. Okay, you could bring in Qui-Gon. And put him right at the end. He'll say, let's go. Let's go. What? And it was your fault I didn't show up earlier. What was the point of that? The jangle keys. But they didn't have to. But people who like this shit don't care, Mahler. I don't understand why you'd waste that. Why wouldn't you bring him in to something that's relevant to the story? Like a character arc or something, you know? Oh. There's so much you could have done with this. We were all convinced he would come in to give Obi-Wan that last bit of pep talk. Because of course that's how stories work. Of course that's what you do. Because of course that's what you would do. Yes, I find this show that every man I'm not happy with this. Squandered every last piece. Is there going to be a after credit thing? No. It was a waste. You had money that you needed. You had everything that you needed. You did nothing with it. You did less than nothing. You actively did a great deal of harm to a new hope, to Vader, to fucking Aunt Baru. Nobody escaped. Everybody in this show who has a story elsewhere has been damaged. Except for Qui-Kon, I guess. You know when you said Qui-Kon, I was like joking. You just throw him in right at the end. So I think I was like, oh man, I was so sure with that production. Damn. Skywalker needed a double. It's the most blasie kind of delivery and the most generic dialogue you could give him. It's just like, yeah, I was here the whole time, you just weren't ready. Anyway, let's go. It comes across to me that they didn't know that they were going to get him. And then like, after they'd finished writing the whole show, they're like, we got Liam Neeson. We had so many moments that they could just easily fit him in. You could have easily fit him into that ship scene. And it would have been... It would have been good. It would have been what could have been the thing to push him to the edge. To be clear, because if anybody out there is just like, well, what could they have done? So why we needed the scene where Qui-Kon, his master tells him it wasn't your fault. I know you think it was. Exactly. That should be a great part of this show because Obi-Wan feeling a level of guilt and then realizing it's you can't do everything. It's not my fault. He was seduced by the dark side. A lot of crap happened. I need to focus on the future. I need to move forward. I have a job to do. No time for moping. Let's get shit done. I thought that's what they'd set up. So many of these little missed opportunities. You know that scene early on when Obi-Wan's walking through the desert and he sees Anakin like in a robe just standing off in the distance like a kind of ghostly vision of him is like, that's kind of cool. You know, you can do things with that. They never did it again. It was just like this one little blink of a creative idea that just happened for a moment and then it flickered out. You know, and there's just stuff like that where you have these great opportunities to do something interesting and the show never takes them. I get baffled by their choices to tell stories when some of this stuff seems so textbook almost to me because this isn't subversion where they do it the complete opposite and infuriate you. They're like, instead of that rousing speech that Qui-Gon could give, that would give you an insight into how Qui-Gon felt about Anakin, how he feels about everything that's rolled out and how he feels about Obi-Wan and what their relationship currently is. It's like, no, instead you'll say hi and let's go. And you're like, oh, I guess that's not the opposite, but that's nothing. Is this just bait in season two? Like, that Qui-Gon's going to be more heavily involved than season two? If they do a season two, that would be true. Yeah, there's more rumors now than there were about the season two. Apparently, Kathleen Kennedy has said if the fads really want a season two, of course the fads will ask for a season two. I'm pretty sure this show is like one of the most successful shows on Disney Plus, like, period. But that was never in doubt. Do they not realize how much people love Obi-Wan, Kenobi, and Darth Vader? No, because he's a boring character. Oh, fuck off. I wish that was the only negative thing I could say about Obi-Wan, but he's like thoroughly ruined now. It was mentioned earlier. What exactly is like the inspiration for the story? You kind of walk away from this show thinking that, like, what was your interest in telling a story about Obi-Wan that this is what we ended up with? It wasn't. Why was this the story you wanted? The interest was in telling Riva's story, but they knew they couldn't get it off the ground because nobody would give a fuck about her. So it's like, what can we build this around in order to get people's interest? Ah, we'll just use Obi-Wan. We'll cannibalize the rivalry between Obi-Wan and Anakin. We'll ostensibly make a show that's about them, but really it's about this new character that we've created. She doesn't have, like, that much She has a normal villainous amount of screen time. If she was a great, well-realized character we wouldn't be complaining that the show gave her a lot of time as well as Obi-Wan, because it's not like Obi-Wan gets no time. It's just that what they do with him is horrible. I would have frustrations about it if they still had, like, barely any at him time because I'd be like, what the fuck? Yeah, I mean, in terms of who's driving the action and who's kind of dictating the events of the plot it does feel like Riva. For the most part, Obi-Wan doesn't have that much agency. He just kind of goes where the plot takes him and he just reacts to things that happen. So he's not the driving force behind it. This is what makes me think that he's just kind of an observer and he's just there for it. Obi-Wan should never have been the driving force that incites a plot between Revenge of the Sith and New Hope. He should be a reacting force with his main motivation being protecting Luke. That's what we need. I guess what I mean is he shouldn't incite whatever happens, but then once things do start happening he should at least be able to make decisions and influence the course of events and be proactive if he's not. He should be a very active force in ending the story. His entire goal throughout the story should be to end it. The thing is that the story itself has very little to do with what is his ultimate mission and that we know is his ultimate mission that was tasked to him in Revenge of the Sith and concludes in a new hope. Well, and then I guess goes on until Return of the Jedi which is about ensuring that Luke can become a Jedi and destroy the Empire restore balance to the force. That's what he's about at this point in time but the story that they've chosen to tell about him as far as I can tell the arc is I'm not competent no, I am competent. That's like the story. It has nothing to do with Luke. We still don't really know why he became incompetent. I lost touch and then he doesn't Well, if I'm going to be as generous I possibly can the force arc seems to just be he was cut off from it because he had so many doubts about what he's done and blah blah blah but then he spoke to Tala and she explained to him that like you need to your mind needs to heal and then he says like some things that I've done just can't be forgotten or whatever and then she says before she dies because of course that's how that works she's like his mentor in this fucking show he's like yeah you don't have to forget them but you can like move on with them or use them as motivation or some bullshit I'll play the clip. Some things you can't forget but you can fight to make them better So she dies and so he's got his force back in full power by then before then so like that's the force arc done I don't know what it meant at all but then you've got is like his main sort of mental issue comes from the fact that he believes he created Vader and this episode seals that off Vader says nah you didn't I did because I killed Anakin and it's kind of like weird he just kind of accepts that as um yeah you I think that's possible that might be the worst part of that scene because that seems quick and I was very much distracted by Ewan McGregor doing some fantastic acting like showing this heartbroken Obi-Wan Kenobi seeing what remains of Anakin under the mask that's the kind of shit that would be in the best vision of this as far as I'm concerned but yeah like his dialogue he basically gives up on Anakin instantly he's like man you know you're my friend I'm so sorry I'm sorry the fact he said I'm sorry for everything and I'm pretty sure he delivered the line with a shit ton of emotion behind it I'm sorry Anakin for all of it I'm gonna come in with this because this will probably be something that gets thrown as a counter is no but like look at the evil smile that Anakin had like he's he's he's gone um that it's not just what he said it's the way that he looked that's not relevant to Kenobi which is who we're judging this from I know I just figure it's worth bringing up because that that is the important part is does Obi-Wan now believe that Anakin is lost I could believe that if the scene went on a little fucking longer he was short he was lost in revenge of the sin so I was gonna say we basically just did that all over again you have to do more okay so what I feel like this scene did was just um to try and get back onto canon it would be like all we knew was I shot a gun and that bullet eventually ended up in the thing that was in front of me and then someone introduced a new story that takes place between with my bullet hit um a steel wall and it's like wait that can't make any sense though it's like ah wait until the next episode where I fire the gun again when the steel wall is down and the bullet travels through and hits that but it's like oh so you you fucked it up but then you just recreated what happened and you're trying to argue yeah see it's all in canon still it's like that doesn't work that's something that should be a conversation that they should have had in the writer's room if you feel like you really need to add lines you know the oh well then goodbye Darth you know trying to put in all of these lines or like um oh lay you can't let them know that we that we've ever really interacted before if you have to ask these questions and insert these lines it might be worth reconsidering the story that you're trying to tell and doing something that's a little bit more low stakes because this this one was super high stakes off the rail stakes they couldn't resist though they couldn't resist that and I think the disappointing part is that I think I really think that a lot of people would prefer this then the low stakes only on Tatooine because in this case actually makes a lot more sense to do that really contemplative Obi-Wan story I don't know that that's what many people want because I get the impression that people were probably thrilled with like these scenes of them interacting with each other the Disney Star Wars fans they are going to be like clapping like mindless seals over stuff like this yeah they're like together I could see them loving this yeah disappointing and a little bit it's just I I find it really lame to think that what is really desired in terms of storytelling for Star Wars doesn't go much further beyond here what we get here but then again give it like three months and everybody will turn on this show it's so like that's that keeps happening with every single like Disney thing that's come out recently everybody thinks it's really cool when it comes out and then give them a couple of months and everybody turns on it they start to realize oh maybe it wasn't that good oh maybe that was kind of stupid maybe this was unnecessary like people already turning on Doctor Strange it's only been like a month and a half and there was so much praise for that film and now it's turned and yeah this one a lot of praise now it's like give it a couple of months but then everybody forgets you know like the next thing comes out and then everybody gets really excited again I mean the plan is working perfectly like Disney's plan like this show did so well and everybody was responding to it really well at the time it doesn't matter if they don't care about it later on as long as they get engaged with the next thing oh yeah because the next they'll be caring about something else well it'll be Andor and I mean at this point like Andor is like yeah and every single time people get really hyped for that one it'll come out there'll be some aspects of it that appeal broadly to people so much so that kind of overrides a lot of the problems that may be present in these shows because of course they're not out yet people really like it and then give it a couple of months and then everybody sours on it but forgets that loop and it even yeah they're already writing the loop they're focused on the high of the new thing that's just come out so it's fine it's like an addict to always it's their drug yeah that's been like that you know ever since the MCU like rose to prominence and it's going to continue to be that way because it's just it's a really good model we've seen it's excellent for making money it's a very good model what I'm going to say it's unreal streaming service where you just need constant flow of content that people can be and it'll even apply to the same level like so if a season so if everyone turns on this season eventually and says you know what that was actually fucking garbage which it absolutely is I don't know what the half-life on this will be but fuck me anyway once the if they announced a season two then everyone be like okay this is hype as fuck have you seen the trailer this looks way better than season one they'll be going to different planets there'll be new drama oh Qui-gon they're going to be going on adventures together that'll be great everyone will get excited yeah that's what I'm saying even the same seasons like nobody will just they'll just it's fine it's fine to worry about it hype culture is fucking toxic it's really bad isn't it funny at all like we're now at the realm of pilfering the prequels for stuff to cannibalize like that's where we're at now well I feel like we've gone as far as we can go now like well they can do more but this is we had Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth we've pilfered the most iconic like representation of Star Wars Vader and Obi-Wan the quintessential Jedi quintessential Sith and they fought two more times both were embarrassing by the way the there really was I was just just been scanning through you had Kenobi do his stance while saying I will I do what I must I think it was the thing he says in Revenge of the Sith you had hello there we caught it but the Imperial March played the last Vader scene I took to point it out but I think it wasn't that enough to me it's just like whoever organized all that would be like see we held off we should restrain it's just awkward all the different scenes you had with Vader that just had like generic Star Wars type music and then you're like there it is though Imperial March right at the end there I am genuinely surprised that they didn't do the Battle of the Heroes thing when they were fighting each other I'm surprised they didn't kill for that and they did their own song just none of us doing anything for me though all their original songs well Edson because the woman who composed for this she did the score for Loki I think Loki has a really cool sound oh yeah I was going to say I like the Loki sound the only thing I like about that show is the music yeah and then of course Qui-Gon showing up as well like there's just there's always a little bit the fucking layer with the holster and all the lines about how layer is the future of us layer is going to be amazing layer is so smart the meta seeping in because you know where it's going but the characters at this point in time are where they are at this point in time so like you know you gotta keep that in mind you can foreshadow for sure but kind of just having characters overtly state you will be this type of person in the forthcoming you know stories in the timeline you know yeah that the fat will be like oh my god this fits in so well yeah man yeah it's really shallow when you think about how much they could have done this is a ripe era to explore in this universe everyone is a ripe character to spend some time with especially at this point in time this would be a point in time when you really could have a lot of conflict in him that you can explore but instead we use this story as a vehicle to do it and we didn't spend a lot of time on that at all because the plot kept getting in the way what do you think about episodes 2 and 4 and 5 like what the fuck with it obviously the only time that really people are very much paying attention is when Vader and Obi-Wan cross paths and then it's like let's write this you really have to ask yourself why that might be and then what you can do about that I know we haven't talked much about Reva but that's kind of because there's not much to say about her I think we've gone over it she's an awful character she makes no fucking sense at all but I think I've seen some sentiments like oh what a multi-faceted complex character in it well that's is it that simple that in Star Wars as long as your character is confused that makes them complicated Confusion is a complex emotion that Disney Star Wars fans don't fully understand I think that was down to something as simple as as long as you show them do something good at the end then that makes them a nuanced multi-layered character in their eyes but the way this is supposed to work is like they appear to have done despicable things on the surface but then when you dig a little deeper it's like you realize that they weren't as bad as they made out like maybe they covered for themselves a little bit and there was actually another motive behind what they were doing it's like okay fine that that makes a bit more sense now but with her it was just straight up yeah she tortures people she murders people tortures little kids quite happily she chops people what she spent her entire career doing is the bad things on behalf of somebody who she wanted to get revenge against and then realizing that she was a bad person came when she tried to kill somebody she's never met knows nothing about and has absolutely no reason to harm but is this person like a young Jedi in the first episode who is roughly the same age as her so that would have made him a youngling at the time of Order 66 exactly why that's actually a really good observation yeah why would she not break the line why would she not break the line why was that the stopping point as opposed to the woman whose hand she chopped off well I just want to make sure we keep this in mind we have no idea why she's desperately trying to kill Luke yeah it's on us so they put her in that position of having the ability to kill the main series character and she doesn't do it so Luke is literally only alive because she spared him was it that's what they wanted was there revenge on Obi-Wan maybe but I don't understand why what a way to get back at him he helped her though but he helped her he was like I'm luring Darth Vader to you that's what I'm saying though it's like I hate you because you weren't there to stop Vader so now I'll kill your children I can imagine that conversation in the writer's room because I can see it now I can see the bare bones of what would have made them think that this was a really good scene without realizing all of the other elements in playing their story that can't make it work I can imagine them thinking that would be a really great piece of drama to have in the finale oh well let's put Luke in danger because we know that everybody's gonna be super invested if Luke is in danger that'll be a really tense traumatic moment and it means that we can have some action with like Owen and she's weird because you know everything's supposed to work out a certain way so it's gonna be really tough for you to create tension with me but they would rebuke like ah but here's the thing we can use that as a parallel for what happens with Luke it's perfect it totally lines up and then you raise your hand it's like yeah but what about the rest of the story and what about the other 96% yeah this scene cannot be facilitated by the story that you've created I can't fucking believe that they actually showed young River where like I can't fucking believe and then I thought that was already over enough but then they have the flashbacks too exactly in case you're stupid you know that's unreal this is content made for stupid people I was gonna say what else can you conclude about that they don't trust you at all but people will say that it's really clever and interesting and smart like they'll say this while also saying stormtrooper bonked heads you can't criticize anything that happens in it these are ultimately extremely simple minded people the rightest all the consumers does it even more like I don't think even the room has shit this over with telling you the point I'm fed up with this world right at the end you have River sitting there going like oh I almost became like Darth Vader it's like you don't need to say it we get what's going on in your head that's the irony right in return of the Jedi when Luke's defeated Vader and you know he sees the hand chopped off and he looks at his own hand you must understand Mr Emperor I do not wish to become my father because he was corrupted I do not wish to be corrupted that would be bad I would like to you talk about symbolism of course cutting off the hand and then looking at your own hand that's not that subtle but it's enough that it's not telling you exactly what you need to think consider the line I am a Jedi like my father before me after that just happened that's great you have that example and here instead of just having Luke be there and then they need to put young River there too they can't just have like the scene be as it is and the symbolism come through in what is real and here as opposed to these crazy hallucinations and flashbacks that's the problem with like her whole motivation though like that could have happened to her at any time it's like wait I was a child you're right yeah nothing nothing unique special happens to her with this kill when she was torturing Leia that should have been the time yeah like what have I become moment and we're supposed to believe that she has been hunting down she's been hunting down plenty of Jedi of all ages this whole time I can't like it's so poorly done so fucking piss poor absolutely it's so poorly done I mean this has to be the clearest example you had access to everything you needed you had great actors you had any of the actors you really wanted were available for this and ready to do it you had all of the resources at your disposal to realize this without any major constraints budget wise or anything like that copyright right yeah you have access to this everything that you could want from the Star Wars canon you had everything but the script sucked it just taints everything speaking of the stocking I don't know if there's a funnier line in all of Disney Star Wars than Vader chasing Kenobi across the fucking universe landing a ship right next to him walking up to him and then saying have you come here to kill me hilarious I can't believe I can't believe that we all noticed that at once how can nobody else realize how stupid that was when they were making this and writing this when it's so obvious or ridiculous I mean did you think the setup for this was completely different initially and they basically a scene for a different story line well but Vader's dialogue is the easiest to play in the stadium I just realized there was a star destroying orbit how did Obi-Wan escape this is what that's what I was trying to talk about remember really early on when I said okay so this is how it works big ship and small ship that's what Obi-Wan is and that's what the big ship is the big ship couldn't hyperdrive yet they had some line about it and so I said like if Obi-Wan can hyperdrive he should just leave now I don't know why he hasn't yet but if he can't then he's fucked but it turns out he could so why the hell didn't he just hyperdrive away if you want to say really he was desperate to fight Vader it's like bro you need to live to fight another day yeah you remember Luke can remember that really important I fucking hate how much he does not you know what I think it was a courtesy flash yes I'm using that that doesn't sound like what I think it's about to mean when they were flash when they were doing the moving the boulders scene I think that was a courtesy flash of Luke when the writers realized like it's Leia Leia Leia Leia wait isn't Luke a character have we got anything of Luke or is that one scene where he looked into the binoculars throw that in fucking embarrassing that's possibly one of the most infuriating things about this whole show is that they've ruined our assessment that Kenobi was very invested in protecting Luke he just doesn't seem to give a fuck character's not herring has become quite a recurring theme also what was that anime shit of him picking up all those boulders I don't know I don't know what it is with the force has to be stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger it could never be what it was I always felt Kenobi was more of a really talented because he's like quite ingenuity guy, smart also really good swordsman pretty good with the force he's like not going to be as higher but remember like he just this is why I was going crazy I don't think Kenobi should be able to beat Vader in a strict force fight no I don't think so I think that one of the big you know how like because he's always so still and lumbering for the most part as well that a lot of what makes him scary is that in terms of his force capabilities he's basically unparalleled and also I can't believe I'm doing this again but Rogue One nailed it they were trapped in a hallway with the man and he was using the force in really interesting and cool ways that don't break any cannon he wasn't pulling starships down back to the planet and he wasn't ripping the hulls of ships apart with ease he wasn't making huge boulders fly around I agree that he shouldn't be able to pull that ship down but I guess the point that's being made here is that if you're going to like that is what Darth Vader would be more capable of doing than Obi-Wan like why aren't we when we think about the fights between these characters why are we thinking about their specialities in the force specialities as Jedi I would actually have conceded like if the fight involves Kenobi keeping up the sword fight but he keeps dropping boulders on Vader while they're fighting and Vader keeps deflecting them but it's just a lot for him we've talked about this before how do you get a really powerful person to be defeated it's like you need to stress them hardcore you have to get them to fight loads of things at once that's why it rags when you suggested like when's the time Riva should attack Vader it's like when he's grabbing the ship probably because that's going to be when he's distracted instead of just being like no Vader just loses to Kenobi even though he was overtly in him in episode three it's like yes but Obi-Wan had a little chat so that would be a great reason for the ship to escape it's because Riva attacked him well I mean a great reason for the ship to escape would be that Vader can't do that but beyond that yeah in the context of the show I'd Riva attack and then they can leave and by the way just did you truly think you could defeat me have you come to destroy me you are stronger but you're still weak I'm waiting for James Earl Jones available to do your voiceover still as Darth Vader you need to give the guy pure gold he's not they may just be giving him credit because they use his voice it's not him it's the robot they did credit him though no yeah I'll link you something that will explain it kind of let's put it this way right and this happened to all of us if you put his clips from the OT next to the ones from the show it'll become obvious yeah I guess special mention to the one thing I think I like in this whole show maybe I don't want to get too hyperbolic but it feels hard to compliment things and this is a writing thing the fact that Riva says something like which by the way is I guess supposed to imply she does know the nature of Luke's biology but how could she there's no way she should know that but whatever the fact that she says that to Uncle Owen and then he says he is my own I like that one tiny thing because you know what in a good season of Obi-Wan Kenobi we would have had plenty of time with Uncle Owen and Luke and we could see what their relationship was like there's always a lot to be said for a character like facing impossible odds knowing he's going to die but still refusing to give in and that's really what you got from him there so yeah it's good I kind of want to bolster that absolutely right like him facing off a Sith with a stick that's kind of amazing and it's just because of how poorly put together this whole fucking series is that that happened because it shouldn't really have happened at all but it gives you a bit of like man you know Uncle Owen is kind of a badass and I do like that he's just like what the fuck like why what do you even want and she's just like justice like she's Batman and he's just like you're giving me no context for this you just trying to kill a kid would you be more specific like if she said I know that boy gets in trouble but Jesus Christ what did he do I must kill the child for justice what did he do he's a good boy also Aunt Baru's plan I will hide and then slap her and punch her whatever it's like didn't you have a blaster you know what's interesting when she does when she has her like girl boss moment earlier in the episode like we should pick our positions now because she'll be coming just after sunset like that would be the optimal time to attack and then they completely don't pick their positions they're just kind of wondering about the farmstead I don't see why Knight would be the best time to come Knight would probably be the worst time to come I remember the specific line the specific line was she will come when the suns go down which was great line wouldn't it be better for Riven to be able to see where they are why would it benefit him the bright ass glowing lightsaber they're gonna see you it's easier for you to be ambushed at night you wanna come during the day where you could see better it would definitely make sense for them to be outside and fire at her when she's like half a mile away and is like she's got to cover an awful lot of open ground to get to them potentially you could wear her down with blaster fire and maybe score a lucky hit if we both shoot at the same time could you imagine if the plotline for season 2 is Leia gets kidnapped again we saw it again taken 2 it's just mouser abduxer episode 3 Vader turns up fucking beats Obi-Wan actually this time is like I'm gonna give you a pep talk and then you'll say Darth again it'll fit, it'll all fit, don't worry I just like to imagine that Leia goes like on all these adventures gets kidnapped all the time Luke's just chilling and Tatooine's like maybe Luke is the one that won out of the 2 of them what a horrific show yeah I'll be honest it was worse than I thought it was gonna be absolutely I end up saying pretty much every single fucking thing that Disney put out the totality of the damage is unreal beyond what I expected hyper incompetence there's so many mistakes they've made that they didn't need to make at all because we took issue with just the premise it's like why are you fucking with that fine we can try and make this work and you think of ideas and stuff but they just went nuts why did they decide to hire the most incompetent band of buffoons why is that a decision they made would you mean the writer the writers of the buffoons from the most high position you can get to at Disney down from there until you reach these people that question applies I think they probably have all of these priorities on a spreadsheet of what the episode needs to have as far as like you know we need at least two action scenes or whatever they probably have shit tons of that and then the actual writing process is just a matter of forcing all that stuff in it's just a fucking sad state of affairs the whole thing it is sad and it's just one in a long line of more shit this is just the next one prepare yourselves for what is the next thing and or oh I guess I meant I guess I was including all Disney content so is it Thor Love and Thunder is next or open up your mouth everyone here comes the sludge thank you so much for joining us on this journey who knows what the next one will be it's been a journey it's been an adventure being an adventure we're happy at the end there will be a supercut of the all Kenobi episodes together and there may be some extra bits here and there and there and also maybe at the end so I wouldn't mind looking at what the comments are for this one but we can only do that a little bit later so yeah look out for the supercut that'll come out too anyway anything anyone wants to say before we wave goodbye to the nice people no I don't feel triumphant I don't feel like I feel like I feel bad it was fun it was fun kind of I think it's because we've just accepted that these shows are terrible and Star Wars is going to be just more and more dragged through the sludge and ruined as time goes on and once you kind of just sort of accept that as the fate of something that you once loved they're running out of places to ruin but I guess they can just keep doing the same ones yeah I mean in theory there is a bottom most point that they can get to in theory right they always think that but then they find a way to dig deeper maybe one day it won't make enough money for them to continue shitting on it I don't know maybe have you seen these fans? no these people eat this shit up they would just lower the budget I think they would bring in Jaja that's the emergency Binks a Star Wars story Wisa going home goodbye everyone goodbye Toodaloo Noobie oh my god super secret ending that wasn't a part of any other upload but only this one where we check out one of the things you guys were saying after we put up the sixth one woohoo was this part of any other upload? this won't be a part of any other upload if you can believe that wait so this is just this is just special for the people watching the super guy it's such good boys and girls it's going to be a selection of people who were watching the super guy because they had nothing to do that night and they were like this will be fun and then they're being heard right now they're seeing this and they're like whoa no one else has seen this like no no one else has seen this secret special surprise we're going to look at what was said Fidelio chat comment showcase blah blah blah we paid money all the metal this fuck we paid metal all the money this time to do the song okay everyone else was not paid that's why they did we got our money's worth definitely alrighty we'll go reverse order this time how about that I guess I'll be rags first instead of ringing I believe you've seen this before rags this is amusing now it's giving a link it's not giving a picture I'll click on it I'll click alright riva decides not to kill an innocent child whose home she rated what an inspirational redemption arc 9 out of 10 IGN there are plenty of people who thought it was really good including but not limited to red letter media for some reason I'll never understand that but that's fine I do not get it I don't get it it's the kind of thing they'd make fun of in a best of the worst episode it's like oh the film is trying to say the film says she's got a redemption arc but all she did was not you know killing an innocent child whose home she rated for no reason that's not a very strange video very weird that they would clap for that when it's literally something you could put into a parody movie I'm going to pull down a fucking ledge and hit his head yeah just the overall journey that she went on it was just fucking nuts and half baked and terrible but yeah we'll see more riva one day and it'll be great no okay this is just how it rolls out I'm sorry Mel this one's for you oh that's a long boy oh yeah did the writers just forget that Thai fighters exist they did multiple times seriously a bunch of the empire's problems would be solved if they just sent out some Thai fighters Kenobi and Leia escaping the planet sent some Thai fighters Kenobi and Leia escaping the fortress sent some Thai fighters choosing between Kenobi or the rebels sent some Thai fighters Kenobi flying away after his invaders duel sent some Thai fighters or even just use the Star Destroyer you have an orbit or really nice to be about this show is that if Kenobi just kept doing his job and stayed on Tatooine then everything would be fine riva would realize she was wrong and will likely be punished for kidnapping a senator's daughter although since riva nothing bad would happen to her since it's riva nothing bad would happen to her and Leia would go back to Alderaan literally everything just saws itself if Kenobi actually acted like Kenobi yeah pretty funny because I hadn't even thought about how yeah if he stayed in his cave nothing would have gone wrong should have stayed stanky that's right he's like well we can't nap Leia we're waiting okay keep waiting he'll go to the Senate he's like this is fucked up someone's taking my daughter can you help in some way shape or form and eventually it comes out that riva's the one that's done it they actually probably kill her I don't even know exactly what kind of punishment they'd have because she's not exactly highly respected at that point they call her third sister derogatorily sometimes it seems and they call my brother sometimes they say that she is from the gutter all that sort of stuff yeah I think she may have been killed Leia would then have been found because the people who stole it wouldn't even know what they're supposed to do exactly oh well I guess we'll give it back and then Bale would get it back and then Obi-Wan would be like so how did it go after and he's like yeah I mean not really anything to report we might improve security maybe I want to see a comedy show that centers around Riva and her gang of misfits trying to cover up for the dumb idea that they have after it doesn't work and it's just episode after episode of them trying to get Leia like reverse kidnapped get her back into Alderaan into her room without anybody noticing them and they even try and cut with an alibi that they torture her into saying like I was I ran off somewhere and I just stayed there for a while I wasn't kidnapped nobody did anything to me they could do some heartwarming thing where Leia takes pity on Riva and in the in the gang and she's like oh you just wanted to find a Jedi because I guess she doesn't know what those are you know and she kind of is like don't worry I won't tell you're not that bad you're just misunderstood and then it ends like I don't know like a heartwarming hallmark Christmas story this one's for me wait so Riva leaves her lightsaber in the sand too according to Disney Rey buries two lightsaber in the sand two lightsabers in the desert at least for a while before digging them up again and there were other Jedi hiding on Tatooine who probably buried their lightsabers as well suddenly I really want to see a robot chicken sketch about an unlucky jawa who can't find anything in the desert but lightsabers which are considered worthless because there's so many buried on Tatooine they sell for like a penny because it's like oh yeah you got one of them huh do you trip over it in the desert it's like oh god damn it they still um they still seem so incredibly valuable to me those items absolutely yeah as they should be it feels like they probably should have weaponized them in other ways by now especially if the Empire just have full access to them fuck I hated the fact that they just show her cut open the door with it yeah what a mistake oh Jay you got a long one Joey oh that's super long yeah she's not okay with killing a Luke but she is okay with torturing a lair weird, curious well you know killing is a step further than torturing I suppose totally makes sense I mean she's like she works for the child killing organization that has a child like a dead child on display we've all worked for child killing on a z child killing organization the scene would have been way better if she had the time to actually torture lair and right as the machine is reaching her she does stop it and then lair is like confused and maybe I have a couple of stormtroopers in the area who are just like and then Riva has to like try and cover for it in some way she performs so we can at least see it's like ah she's not willing to torture children that's nice that would be a good thing to know about our character it turns out she just is torturing children man way to go oh hey Fringy you got a big one an actual big one okay man we really have reached peak this didn't happen levels of writing haven't we like Obi-Wan Kenobi had Darth Vader dead to rights confirmed he was evil and just allowed him to live that didn't happen they couldn't have uh they couldn't even bother to contrive a lame reason why their fight had to end inconclusively like say the planet falling apart underneath them he literally just turns around and says yup job done he'll never do any harm again and the idea that Aunt Baru and Uncle Owen somewhat successfully fought off a Sith in their own home and that Luke Skywalker encountered a Sith and had the force used on him that didn't happen that literally couldn't have happened not given the way Luke acts about Jedi the Sith and the force being so emotionally close to Obi-Wan she acts like she barely knows him in a new hope and she doesn't seem very emotionally affected by his death she's the one consoling Luke as if the very brief bond they shared was the more meaningful one when their show would have you believe that Leia and Luke were thicker thieves this didn't happen this whole show didn't happen um this comment essentially represents uh what I would say is like when you've you've pushed it too far and it's just like unbelievable um not even not even just a matter of ah that's absurd but more so like nah just I don't believe that this happened like this if I am to accept these two stories as having taken place it just it doesn't it can't work it is so lacking in um coherence it just it just doesn't line up like Han Solo uh Cthulhu Black Hole you just don't buy it um yeah it's also good where it says when the show would have you believe Luke and Leia were thicker thieves I think I was supposed to say Leia and Kenobi oh like yeah whoops it's all good though I follow and yeah I agree uh too much stuff is so out of place that it's just like so what was this it's not canon obviously yeah it's it's how can you watch a new hope and look at the way that Luke like how do you how do you square away that these events happen and of course Obi-Wan Darth Vader just leaving him there that's probably the clearest example something I've uh thought about have you noticed that it's a pretty common trend um in like the 6 episode Disney plus shows that like because you need the mandated action scenes you will have the hero and the villain like fight more frequently than they really need to you know like how whenever you put these two forces together at some point one is going to prevail over the other and end the story um and so that limits the amount of times that you'll often I mean a lot of video games will have you fight the big bad once you lose then you fight them again and you win yeah like that but because you need two action scenes um the amount of times that these conflicts happen becomes so frequent but you can't have the show end so you always need to find some way to have them fight without there being any consequences and in this case we had two of those Obi-Wan fights Darth Vader he loses but then he's just sort of allowed to leave and then he wins at the end but then he has to leave because Darth Vader is still alive like the more often you have to force conflict and because you're you have different like because your motives in terms of writing are just warped the more often you have to contrive circumstances where the bad guys will be able to get away or the good guys will be able to get away either the world breaks or the characters break to facilitate this dumb mandate that seems to be persistent in all of these shows it doesn't have to be this way either in terms of there could be stakes to any fight between a hero and a villain have something something up in the air other than the either of their lives yeah but like level of imagination well you know way of viewing conflict is yeah it's a fight for their lives and somebody's got to win oh but let's contrive circumstances where the world breaks to let them get away or the characters breach their principles to allow it to continue you know I think it's funny that it literally just had like Obi-Wan on an escort mission and then Vader is trying to kill the person he's escorting or whatever yeah I mean obviously would have Vader be a distracted by Obi-Wan's presence but I'm sure it's doable yeah he did work protection on Tatooine for different jobs and then one job it's like we need to go to this other planet and he's like I can't but then they like tell him to do with their family they'll pay him as much as he could possibly ask for all of the different motivations you might be able to get and you know it's enough to he's convinced that he might go on it but then yeah it turns out the person he's protecting is a Jedi they could do the thing like if Bale didn't have mass like massive resources to try and protect Leia you could understand why Obi-Wan would leave to do it you could have anything where it's like something he's personally invested in that he has to leave to go and do and there's no real other way he's the person who can help yeah just put some thought into it no it was great um but yeah I was going to say it's kind of funny that he references Ryan Kylo here because that whole problem you've just been lying out is exactly what happens with them first fight the world splits in half to separate them second fight in TLJ it's the he gets knocked out and there's conveniently a ship she can just take right now right next to her and it's like oh yeah yeah and then the third fight is that she actually does kill him but then she force heals him I think um damn I'm sure I said this uh I'm trying to figure it out I think uh I think I've said before that a good way to think about um like your character in an action story or a story where they come into conflict with people is that there are only so many times that they can succeed before they have to fail um there are only so many times that they can get hurt before they have to get killed by some crazy injury like it's it's worth considering um you know like for a skill that somebody may be the more times they get put in danger the more likely it becomes that they will inevitably make a mistake or scrub or come up against somebody who's more powerful or more skilled than they are and that it's just worthwhile to approach a story thinking about it that way okay action scene alright I they're gonna get out of this one I've expended that next time it's got to be less likely that there's no consequences for them and then you keep doing it I think it should be the same way when it comes to um encounters with the big bad depending on the nature of their conflict and what their objectives are especially in the more simple case that the bad guy wants to kill the hero there's only so many times that they can fight that somebody's got to die um you know like it's just worth thinking about it that way but in this case they just wanted their fights and neither of the characters could die because of the story and where it slots in but they didn't give a shit they still wanted the fights well it's funny because like we would say the same for Ray and Kylo early on we'd be like huh neither of them can die because the story's got to be longer than this but this time it was neither of them can die like in episode 3 because the story is longer than this but also who they are necessarily means they cannot die it's the risk of telling a prequel you've got more constraints it prompts the reality you have to write something pretty clever because you're under more restrictions than usual but we are all saying it like pessimistically because we know they're going to pull someone out of their ass they always do what if they'd introduce like a survivor Jedi and like uh then you could have Obi-Wan and Vader versus well no sorry Obi-Wan and survivor Jedi versus like Vader and Riva and that could be the final fight we don't know who's surviving that other than Obi-Wan and Vader so many things you could do to have a fight with stakes the inquisitors are right there for you to use I mean you had them in your show could have been a fight and they even brought an O.C. like bring a couple O.Cs and kill them because the Grand Inquisitor had to survive and that's the one they post the stab to the chest they stabbed him in the fucking tongue which is why they stabbed him in the chest and then that's exactly how he sounds that's just all my stress he is a powerful motivator the stage is getting dangerously close to Squidward as well Rags Riva you're up okay let's click on this here drag it on over you know what kind of made sense when Obi-Wan attacked Darth Vader by throwing boulders at him because he was using his greatest weakness against him if you think about it boulders are nothing but big sand poor Anakin sand is found in so many places already melt okay hey remember that scene in wait what return of the Jedi oh thank you it's I'm slight I'm tired where Luke said to Kenobi I can't kill my own father and Kenobi replied oh don't sweat it bro I like totally had him twice and couldn't do it either it's amazing writing all ties together I mean like I had three battles to the death of this man technically four just like it looks like what he's like well Mustafa weird quarry planet weird boulder planet and then death so weird quarry planet in the OT Luke Invader fight and Luke loses and the next time they fight he wins and like that is the end of that that conflict there's only so many times that you can have characters fight before it's like are you guys like just fucking around are you actually interested in achieving any of your goals that's where it used to be in terms of like experimental ideas like we got our main hero fighting our main villain here like what but we're only two movies in what are we going to do is Luke going to win and it's like no what if Vader what if Vader wins and they were all probably like whoa Vader wins at this point it's become something of a cliche right they fight and then lose and then the next time they fight the hero wins Empire is famously the example of the low point being something that should be embraced that have avoided yeah well it's the contrast between success and failure and stories is where a lot of the juice comes from you want those peaks and dips this Obi-Wan trists you that with the Obi-Wan getting put on the fire I guess it's just a matter of consequences Luke actually loses his hand and his lightsaber and nearly dies like the consequences are real can Obi's skin had plot armor it can't actually be damaged by fire and then they just put him in a back to tank anyway like it's think about the consequences and of course well Infinity War was trying to do the same thing the heroes lose and then they win it just doesn't commit to any of the consequences of that because that's where the real potency comes from is even if the hero prevails in the end the loss matters and has longstanding repercussions I mean hell you can say like that the loss in Empire is the thing that reminds Luke of what he needs to retain because you know his hand can't go to a hand maybe it wouldn't have hit as hard I hate to bring up but you've you've cited that a couple of times it's like a really good moment I've even said that I love the line I'm a Jedi like my father before me I don't know a few guys have experienced it but I don't know why this happened but in the Red Light Media Part 2 video Rich specifically cites that moment as like unfeeling and robotic on Luke's part it is peak feeling the best moments in the entire saga it's just like yeah I did like Luke in Return of the Jedi he's so robotic and he literally says that line and it's like oh my god that is that like a level of overcompensation like to if by downplaying the merits of the entire series it becomes a lot easier to not compare to say that Kenobi is slotting into some yeah well at one point they do say like Star Wars as a whole is just stupid which is so sad yeah that's a shame it wasn't always stupid at all it was a great moment that is some top notch writing it is a really good moment and then when you think about what it leads to and that that was probably the thing that pushed Darth Vader over the edge to come through in the end you know and like Luke is different in Return of the Jedi 2 first two but like it's not hard to follow exactly what happened there he's gone from being beaten the fuck up training more consolidating more and now he's like almost overconfident has a super success in the first scene being the Rancor and then of course winning on the barge if you remember he's like hyperconfident when they're on their way to be executed because like we can go over how dumb and crazy the plan is in Jabba's powers but him as a character it's more than fine that he was just like I'm confident that we're gonna overcome all of this and then he behaves that way his intention and confidence in the fact that he's going to win he's going to convert Vader back he's going like it's all gonna work out I think that's what helps really play into the throne room scene that he fucking loses it he thinks he can control himself he thinks he's like almost become a Jedi master essentially but um and then he and then right on the brink he's like shit I've almost become my father and then using that line reflecting it back I will become my father I am my father a Jedi this is like good stuff Luke and I movie is great in terms of a character thread there's just there are problems in return of the Jedi we're all aware of them we know yeah like it's head yeah what a fucking idiot if only we could find the actor and kill him he's probably died from an accident at this point he's had too many times too many times put that in like wait so where are we oh yeah okay so that means I'm next whoa terrifying Baru she will come when the sun goes down objection your honor lack of foundation speculation yeah that's what I thought when she said that what they said in the recording it's just like I'm sorry where did you get that from where why is she saying that what if anything it's the opposite what you would do yeah it's such a weird thing not sure what you think it's almost like she read the script and she was like that's when she's coming so we will prepare for that that is when the action she looks at the screen that is the action scene moment guys it'll sync with the other action scene it's gonna be epic as fuck two action scenes at once whoo she knows that that Riva's gonna wait until sun down because the fight scene has to be under lit everything has to be under lit yeah because it would be a fight scene and Obi-Wan could Obi if it was well lit hey when she slapped the stormtroopers' faces that was well lit I like that when the light was super lit it's hard to see the the fuck up the white savers glow better yeah that is almost exactly why they do it yeah they love that little it's like aesthetic points automatically in the same way that Hytop does it where it's just like I put two colors together isn't that am I an artist now yeah sure well when you talk about subtlety again the green light on Vulture's face is subtle compared to blue light oh no you're evil red light which yeah to be even trying to like separate them out a little bit it reflects the fucking lights those are things that exist and work that way to be like yeah they exist with the lightsabers the blue light on his face and the red light it's like yeah but you have to lift them up and down at the right times to make that work and it just seems super arbitrary and obvious I mean green light is like he's got it he's figured it out he got it which is I mean of course that lines up pretty well with what green light means go it's Vulture's main primary it's like his Vulture's primary color as well so that's a nice little thing and also it's just something that yeah like it's a lot more diagetic whereas like the red and blue you know it's just yeah they shouldn't what I'm saying is there shouldn't be that's just like you did that that's not like his light sabre as opposed to which is yeah which is just like he timed it with that point in the speech sayings of the evil that's where I mean meanwhile the lights go off at that time but the best like he's so focused on his realization that he even ignores what the green light means like he's even driving and then of course you've just got everything else in that scene methodically building up to him figuring it out asking very specific questions such a great scene I fucking love the dialogue Harrison yep so natural mm-hmm Spider-Man we should rewatch time coming instead of doing this hey shut up Jay read this shut up and read Owen and Baru are way too I feel I say clean it says calm way too clean way too clean to send everywhere way too calm seeing Riva holding unconscious loop back they should be snatching him away and beating her up shoot her I suppose you can make the argument they're just like being very careful because she's currently holding him as opposed to running up to him but I think I was kind of annoyed that they were more speedy in picking him up mm-hmm like they sort of but and to be honest with you I might just fucking punch you I don't know it'd be hard not to you fucking whore you killed everyone almost and then you come into our house terrify us ruin everything we're gonna have to move plant it I'm sorry I want that to be real dialogue in a film you fucking whore you killed everyone almost I want that to be in a story killed everyone almost um and on that note that's it for the catch up of catching up on them comments um thank you all so much for joining us on this wonderful adventure through Kenobi it's been great um you know Andor would likely be the next thing uh and then Ahsoka and then Ahsoka deez nuts you know but you know we'll see it'll half of it will depend on our interest half of it will depend on the audience's like desire for a particular thing cause I'm assuming you guys don't care if we cover bad batch but you might care if we cover Andor I don't know I guess we'll find out someone will likely want that yeah sure but then they'll be like don't cover that just cover Clone Wars and then we're all gonna be like mmm no I've heard them what so anyway okay bye see ya goodbye everyone bye wait is or will this this just say way into another clip of what was gonna happen should we be saying bye here um technically it is super goodbye but it will actually there'll be um something that was cut will now play after this so enjoy that well how does that one start should we segue into it I don't know how it starts I'm sorry is that the one on the state of Disney thing yes hey what do you guys think about the state of Disney yeah let's talk about that now it would be really nice if they built like a really expansive Coruscant set and loads of stuff they use that set for you know they just kept coming back to it like like like like if it was a set they regularly use they could probably justify spending like ten like ten million on it oh so like um like a modular one basically like a bit of a living set maybe almost like a hot wall you know but for a television show that I mean they have um having been watching a lot of TNG recently the fucking they the set for the enterprise they basically just built the whole fucking ship like that and it was all in one studio if I if I've got my trivia on it correctly is they have like uh and that's like you know several fucking decks um and this they do not they did not have Disney money they have you know the bridge every hallway loads of different I actually I'm not sure if it's like loads of different quarters rooms or which one room that would be the quarters that they redecorate for each one but you know it might be they could have a quarters or two room the captain's side room uh transporter room they have the jerry tubes um and like even like the science labs which you don't see that often I think they are a consistently yeah the medical they're part of the set go there sometimes I recently watched an episode where you have um a dream sequence with data it's called it was bloodlines part one if it's called that um it was it's uh data has a dream they show his dream sequence and there's just one really long and broken shot where they go from one side of the set to the other through hallways and you just realize oh this is actually all one set and it's fucking huge that's pretty cool yeah it's cool um I can explain that jay because they knew they would be filming in that ship quote-unquote uh for their like basically the entire show so it's worth making while disney have no clue what's gonna happen what's the whole town set for still a little bit unreal that there it doesn't seem to be a long-term plan for star wars no yeah shows can be made I don't know let's try this it's all hot potato shit um and there is gonna be a comment we eventually read out I don't know if it's gonna be now or later but uh cause I know I've seen it some way but basically the outline for what this show was gonna be is it I mean the problem is right the no matter what it was gonna be it could still have been just a shit but it does sound like a better premise um but we will look at that when it pops up in our cycle I'm not sure if it's in these comments or in other ones but we shall see and on the topic I guess that's the that's a problem when you just a content creation machine I mean they like just this week I think put out like a picture of all the releases plus it's like 30 something things or whatever it's like man it's not exciting because they seem to want to release episode of something every week well every day the reason why is because that's how you maintain subscribers long term that's kind of like the problem with a lot of the content is it's probably I feel like probably might be down playing it it's almost certainly being made with the number one goal of well yeah it's just gonna like this is gonna be good for Disney Plus as a platform you know what would be great for Disney Plus platform would be making good shows sure but like what does it matter right if with all the Marvel stuff and you know we've seen it like the show comes out people think it's really good at the time that's all that you need that's all that matters is that people think it's good at the time it doesn't matter whether they think it's been a month Boba Fair was kind of this weird sort of anomaly where people kind of recognize that there was a lot of things that were connected though whereas like Mando people thought that was really cool when it was coming out people loved Boba Fair finale I can't believe that I just can't believe it was so bad I guess it's just it feels like the way that these things are being made is very much it's like it's I guess it's always been the case because you know it's a business so you're trying to think about how you can make money it's just that Disney Plus which is we are going to release weekly because that's probably better for retaining subscribers it's like well how do we what is like the most optimal way to achieve a lot of objectives beyond storytelling such as keeping people on the platform people talking about the show which means that it's kind of at the forefront of popular culture it's like that's probably the reason why you know the very last episode it's the reason why cameos and stuff are like a pretty persistent aspect of these things it's all it all feels very deliberately done to make sure that people stay subscribed to the platform I guess this model feels I guess pretty insular and that none of these shows that they put out seem to be the cultural phenomena that like something like the original some like some like thrones right cause if they had if they had just they were producing loads of original stuff and they were throwing their money at loads different creative teams and maybe being pretty harsh with who doesn't doesn't get a second season you could be they could be creating such excellent content and they'll be using the subscription model and doing well with it if you crunch the numbers though like the being counters on their team probably have the likelihood of creating a game of thrones level cultural impact incredibly difficult compared to what they seem to be doing on purpose which is the pipeline sludge monster thing I mean I guess the thing is when you say like a cultural impact kind of know getting around the fact that like Marvel broadly is a huge cultural impact as like this nebulous sort of content thing it's true I mean so is those but they're getting all of these things once they seem to have sort of closed off and then no longer accumulating many new fans and then I think they're surfing it like it's like they stay at a constant six on the cultural relevance as opposed to doing like tens and then one one one one ten one one one one one over like two decades it's just six every year basically the thing is there's no getting around the fact that like you look at the highest grossing films in any given year Disney tends to take up like five or six of those sometimes more than that Marvel's hat is the whole six every year thing in terms of cultural impact because it just doesn't doesn't seem to last but like it doesn't seem that they care that seems to be part of the goal until until it carries everyone over that's all a box office bomb like until they have one of those and I don't think they I don't know that they ever will at least not for like the foreseeable future do you mean like a significant one well one that just flat out a solo like a film that legitimately loses money which yeah we've got precedent to say that changed their mind Star Wars quite a bit but they're clearly like trying to get Star Wars back onto that track well I guess it's just I think that I think that Marvel needs more than one because like that was the third that was the fourth Star Wars movie whereas like there have been nearly like 30 Marvel movies now or maybe even more than that plus the shows for there to be like one bomb I don't know that that would mean a lot yeah you're right because their treadmill of exchanges like solo is the next of building block as opposed to they lay like six building blocks per year for Marvel so like if all six of the year crashed maybe then they'd change it oh I would love to see what they would do I I guess the thing is I don't even see that happening because you look at what's like Moon Knight did pretty well right so like at least in terms of people watching it I imagine and Loki Season 2 was already filming because Loki did amazing so that's probably a guarantee of success to some degree I imagine that they do factor budget still like I think they will have sort of comfortable budgets but the budget varies right like Loki probably costs more than Miss Marvel so like Miss Marvel doesn't have to do as well and are probably still doing like well enough oh yeah it's probably with me in here I don't think any of us here presumably have any intention of watching Miss Marvel no I already forgot it existed I'm gonna obviously ask other friends to just catch me up if anything significant happens but that's not one I give I struggle to care but I've seen people complimenting that show already getting that hype up you get the impression though that they are surfing a wave and that the wave will eventually run out because they're not producing anything new no I don't think so yeah and it'll drive their legacy into the ground they're making Star Wars and Marvel as common as like soap opera well it's kind of everything right I think I think Disney's new stuff is one the animation studios make and then give them time and then you can come back to those and make them live action because that I mean that's kind of the thing all the live action stuff they don't really do like and well they did that jungle cruise movie I guess which is kind of like close to what Pirates of the Caribbean was it's like what they have is they have Disney animation studios and Pixar along with revisiting old stuff that they've already made making new stuff and then I don't know you can just start remaking that like it wouldn't surprise me if we do start seeing remakes for like Treasure Planet or remakes for I mean frozen like a live action will happen maybe give it like 10 more years and then by then there'll be more there'll be more new stuff that the studio will have made like Disney animation studios that was an original idea and then and so didn't that do as well as frozen did I did pretty well I that's I'm pretty sure that one they all do well it's kind of the thing like Disney don't really have bombs anymore like I don't know it's all like scientifically measured at this point and it's kind of scary because it works it really does work how long it'll work for like long-term effects I don't think they're going to be prepared for we'll have to see what happens I think the externalities of what people have been talking about where it's like hey you want to go see the Northman in theaters yeah well yeah sorry one show that's the problem I had here in Germany I couldn't find an English version for like another week or something before I could watch it in English because all the things were covered already with oh was it fantastic beasts or whatever the fuck the movie was what big IP fantastic beasts was filling out cinemas well well the screening rooms yeah no one went to see it but they already had the contracts for the cinema so they had to do it I guess so it's it's worth keeping in mind Jay the difference between box office and number of screenings the screenings will be determined based on like expectations of box office I assumed that they knew I assumed that they knew that wasn't going to do well oh no I think they I think they thought that was going to do well it felt the marketing felt so desperate with how the fantastic beast's logo fucking tiny on the posters and then it was secrets of Dumbledore which is so conspicuously hey remember Dumbledore I mean I guess I guess whatever insecurities they have like how report it was because I presume they're not making anymore a really important franchise to DC must be like really upset because that new guy that's come in wants to make it more like Marvel which is probably not like the worst idea in the world in terms of fighting I mean like in a good version of the Marvel stuff just that the Marvel stuff is just consistently horrifically bad in terms of quality well and so is I guess it's just we've reached a point now it's like well there hasn't really been anything from Marvel equivalent to like the Batman in a while you know like some artistry or I would love to watch like a cinematic universe based on like DC comics it's totally similar to the Batman right even if they were all the same quality as the Batman which has you know would happily laugh up and taste the nice universe of that but the thing is is um man this is a big old tangent from what I understand the new guy whose name eludes me at the moment thinks that there's not enough unity in terms of like DC stuff which is very true oh yeah it's all completely disparate it's like they don't even know they exist the other people their last attempt to try and get everything together was unfortunately ruined by Snyder well I mean was it also ruined by other people involved like um well it's worth remembering that like that uh well yeah there's been a lot of bad DC comics Patty Jenkins was also there making the one moment true true true I wouldn't want to do that um and we were made birds of prey what was it what was the team effort well it's just um it seems like the benefit of all of this disparate stuff is fortunately it feels like you look at Marvel stuff coming out now it's like is it going to be bad I don't know it just seems to be a pretty big triangle with DC it's like will black out and be bad it's like I don't know it might be fine like you know it might be okay I don't know I don't know what like but I guess it's just um nobody that that brand has been tarnished a lot like I don't know how much people are excited for like DC stuff cause there's this perception of a lack of quality whereas for as bad as the Marvel movies have gotten they kind of have this reputation of already reliably entertaining like they're not like those X-Men films from the 2000s like they're not like X-Men origins Wolverine bad even though they probably are they are probably it could be weird the bad in different ways right probably worse well it's just that I think what happened with Marvel's studio stuff is that they um they created a reputation for themselves that was different from what comic book movies had before which is that occasionally you get a good one but they were generally pretty shit there was like that perception and then like oh well these ones and cringe yeah like that they were like Daredevil 2003 or yeah X-Men origins or like Catwoman like there was kind of those ones that loomed and I think that there's a perception well Marvel has never made anything like that bad which is kind of funny cause I imagine if we watched Daredevil the Ben Affleck one it's probably going to be more redeeming qualities in it than some of the stuff coming out right now well yeah I was going to say even like X-Men origins Wolverine he's probably in character for most of it Logan yeah it's just um I don't I don't I don't know it's kind of it's kind of odd well no it's not I think it's because I got a lot of talented people involved they got great actors um the visual effects starting to wane bit at the moment but they used their production value to some extent too um it's kind of carried by a lot of things that aren't the writing it feels like this is all relevant to Star Wars because it's going to the exact same thing exact same process well I it's like kind of if it was like that's what they're trying to figure out now is like how can we do it and it seems like on the TV side it's working for them like the TV side has generally been responded to well and who's fault is that all right well I was just wanting to see how long that silence would last I checked my route and router of my internet that's why I talked that's why I talked to make sure that the internet had just cut out it was so silent all of a sudden I was like okay my internet is gone Rex why did you have to ruin it because I thought my internet was like turned off yeah I don't I don't know how much sludge it'll take before people will be like ugh doesn't taste very good um it's fun one of my friend was already is like when when you Marvel stuff comes out it's like I'm gonna watch it someday when I need something on the side to watch so much better stuff to do that with because he just on the on the side when he's doing completely other things just things it's background noise basically like here's the thing right you could do that with stuff that's really good um you there's a lot of really good stuff that isn't that you can't you can't do that with that really requires your full attention like Bly Manor for example mm-hmm but stuff like um house Archer or Star Trek TNG or watch house in the background okay yeah the office yeah perfect stuff that's like really well crafted these are shows they have great reputations they're pretty long they're nice and formulaic so you can play a little video game or have your food or whatever while you're watching them nah I assume community would be like that as well yeah I think community would these this what I mean these shows have so much more character compared to like Mandalorian season 2 episode 6 does anyone even have any clue what that even is mm-hmm fuck is it the one where the dark group is getting introduced and like baby Yoda is on the plinth yeah it's the Boba Fett episode just how I remember it because he it's funny how episode 6 of Mandalorian is the Boba Fett episode and episode 6 of Boba Fett is the Mandalorian episode there was 5 in Boba Fett shut up no I generally don't remember I don't remember either it might be it was something like that because there was 7 in total and I think 5 and 6 were Mando's episodes and then 7 was where they come together remember because we were blown away by the fact that Boba wasn't in it for like 2 episodes in the production quality like tripled yeah because all of this is a fucking mess and it's really funny because they can't even cover it up with their money because they don't give the time for the money to be spent properly