 Expersion of it and you say, what's that? I don't know someone made it though and they've been playing it all day for a solid You know You're like, I know okay. What is this? There's a nutcracker movie out is it does it maybe? Oh, you know, it might be that I wouldn't know I just watched that video. I shouldn't have waited after the show Roger would would you uh, what what advice would you give to Joe? I would tell Joe let that be our last time you do anything like that ever He didn't there's another shorter video where he's like calling from his car I know I know you talked about me. It's like what? I heard you need an addition to your house Building codes between the fact that he says he says good morning to her again says soon to be my everything No, no, this is not the sort of thing that rogers gonna like We know this Daughters you've got it. You're scared for people like this. You know, I'm scared for anyways. It's like you don't need You don't need that in your life. I'm sorry This is uh, this is why youtube needs a better interface So people understand the difference between public unlisted and private videos Oh man, it's like I I'm not I think the guy should be put away not for his Weird and creepiness but for his lack of being able to grow a proper goatee. It's weird Wow. Yeah He who is without facial hair problems must be jail That's why I don't try because I know I'll end up like Joe to grow the first whiskers I've tried it's bad I know I know I know that personally I just look like a chinese gambler that's been in a Yeah, that's been in one of those gambling casinos. I know and I've been waiting to do my short film about chinese gamblers So that I can get you to grow that This is Crap, I don't care We are going to talk about go, but the other two games are japanese today Sir, this isn't money. It's a parking ticket. Good morning internet Good morning, lin. Good morning, tom I just think Good morning, shannon. Good morning The thing lin is if you do that same accent, but you say you shouldn't have done that it's just Done that you shouldn't have done that I Empathize I empathize with Joe. I feel sure I don't have a little Joe and I don't think he's evil or anything I just don't think that was um, yeah, it's a bad judgment case. Yeah bad judgment Uh, it should be a private video. That's all no Just know it's just like when you do anything email video. Just know it can be sent to any birdie anybody Uh 15 30 is when we will start the show. Are you guys ready? Yep. Yes Good morning. When I say 15 30, it means nothing to any of you. I realize It's his mental clock. I understand five four three two one Hey, thanks to you. That's right you who supports independent tech news If you want to do it directly and have more in effect become a member at patreon.com slash dtns This is the daily tech news for friday december 7th 2018 in los angeles on tom errant and from studio feline I'm sarah lean and from studio hack five. I'm shannon morse from cleveland. I'm lenn peralta And from the same general region as tom and sarah. I'm roger shane the show's producer Ah, we've got lennon shannon back Gang's all here. It's a real friday again. Yay finally. We got hats on we got shannon We got lenn doing some art and we're going to talk about facial recognition After we tell you a few other tech things you should know walmart announced plans to buy art.com which sells a variety of art as the name suggests some posters and wall decor It's been around quite some time since 1998 in fact and will continue as a standalone site So say the companies but products will also be available on other walmart sites such as jet.com and hay needle.com The deal is expected to close in early 2019 mazilla ceo chris beard wrote in a blog post that quote by adopting chromium microsoft hands-over control of even more of online life to google He noted that if chromium based browsers get enough market share developers won't worry about compatibility On non chromium based browsers like firefox I just wish microsoft would have done it with the quantum engine with the fire A phone maker essential has acquired india's cloud magic startup less than three months after that startup said it was going to shut down It's newton mail app cloud magic launched as cloud magic in 2013 It was a free service then and then relaunched in 2016 as a paid service under the name newton mail All right, let's talk about games games that the ai's play shannon All the ai's an artificial intelligence platform known as alpha zero Learned games Learned the games of go chess and shogi from scratch without help from humans by using deep neural networks Alpha zero was unveiled by deep mind technologies a british ai subsidiary of alphabet in research published in science on november 6 In each game alpha zero was only given the basic roles of how to play Then it would then play millions of games against itself and determine which strategies works best through Reinforcement learning the training and learning process took nine hours for chess That's it 12 hours for shogi and 13 days for go It then went out to beat the world's three best ai's at their games stock fish at chess Elmo at shogi and alpha go zero at go This is a heck of an accomplishment uh in unsupervised learning There are all kinds of things to talk about it You know regarding the fact that games have a limited set of rules and all the information is available And and so you shouldn't be too worried about what this means But it did strike me that the three best players of chess shogi and go are all ai now Right and this is just the better version of it because humans got less involved It also struck me that it's interesting that this is one of the few Excellent and amazing examples that we have of artificial intelligence because a lot of times ai as The word is used as a marketing term when in actuality. It's used just as this function So this is a perfect example of what ai could be used for Yeah, and and if you don't pick up on what we're saying when you even though these games are complicated I mean it took 13 days to train on go The information is complete. You always know what the rules of go are you always know where all the pieces are, right? Where ai is going to have challenges is when you don't have all the information Like, you know, I don't know. Is it sunny out? Uh, should I put a coat on is it cold? I can pick up all these things without knowing all the information without even looking out the window In various ways as a human I can intuit things those aren't even the best examples of that But there are things we can do with incomplete information that ai can't do yet So does this make you feel like you never want to play board games ever with a robot? Not against a robot. No Like why would I you know, that's the thing right when you play against the computer now it means the computer is hobbling itself It's not as good as it could be. Otherwise it would beat you every time Qualcomm announced the eight core snapdragon eight cx for always connected windows laptops and two in one convertible PCs It's the largest processor that qualcomm's ever made and the company says it'll also be the first seven nanometer chip for a pc platform And the biggest performance leap for snapdragon chip ever including up to two gigabits per second cellular connectivity It also draws seven watts of power Which is about half of the comparable intel u series of chips and supports up to 16 gigabytes of lp ddr for x ram and nvme drives Qualcomm says that the new andrino 6 uh 80 extreme gpu Which is inside the eight cx is twice as fast as the one in its previous snapdragon 8 50 for windows laptops It's also 60 more power efficient. It also supports two 4k hdr external monitors Simultaneously of note qualcomm also expects the first pc's with eight cx to ship in the second half of 2019 Didn't say who it would be with No, and in fact lenovo came out on stage during the announcement and talked about it without ever saying and we'll be Shipping a product with this inside, which a lot of people noted the absence of that statement. Maybe just forgot. I don't know It is pretty cool though that this is the first one from qualcomm that is purpose built specifically for windows So they're not reusing something from like smartphone chips And then sticking it into a laptop So we should be able to see a lot more of things like, you know The multitasking and productivity like they mentioned and they also mentioned during the the talk that it could do You know light gaming like minecraft, but you're still not going to be able to get things like heavy-duty tasks like, you know video editing or Or 4k video editing or or heavy gaming that you can normally do on an nvidia GPU out of this But this is still really great and it's awesome competition Yeah, and they're the apps for this will be a little bit less available as well But microsoft has done things like allow you to compile your 64 bit windows apps for Universal, which makes it easier to port them over if you've developed them for x86 So this is a big deal. This is qualcomm going head to head with intel. These are seven nanometer chips I don't know if you caught that when sarah mentioned that intel doesn't have seven nanometer chips So even though these aren't as powerful as the most powerful intel chips that are 10 nanometer I mean qualcomm is in the game At the thin and light level, but they are in the game for legitimate pc performance Well, what's interesting is intel has already announced that they're working on their seven nanometer Which will probably come out in a couple of years And I do not think that that qualcomm's efforts along with amd's Lighting a fire under their corporate behinds Is is is helping Their their cause so they're I mean they've they've been a little too relaxed at the top for for way too long Do you think intel has been intel has yeah Uh, I think a lot of people would agree with you All right, let's check in on what's going on with huawei. Uh, since we we talked to you last When we mentioned to you yesterday the arrest of cfo among wanzhou in canada huawei has appointed chairman liang hua as acting cfo In the bail hearing for among on friday It was revealed that us prosecutors want her to face charges of fraud Linked to the circumvention of sanctions on iran It was already known that it had something to do with sanctions on iran now. We know that it's fraud White house trade advisor peter navarro said the arrest of mong has nothing to do with trade talks eutech commissioner andris on sip Said he thinks the e you needs to be worried about huawei and other chinese companies because of requirements to cooperate with chinese intelligence services And said chinese companies produce chips to quote get our secrets Now he he made this announcement on the day of mong's bail hearing so Uh, this wasn't just an accidental thing. I imagine this is a bit of piling on Huawei denies of course that opposes a security threat and denies it has ever been asked to build a backdoor or an interrupt Into any networks. Uh, that is something that some u.s. Companies can't say Sources told roiders japan will restrict government purchases of products that have security concerns They won't name names, but it will result in government Contracts in japan not being able to use products from huawei and zte Germany said it will not exclude any manufacturers from building 5g networks Belgian newspapers say that country is considering banning huawei telecom equipment in its projects And the eu is launching an investigation into chinese investments and force technology transfer in europe so You know with with some of these Some of these things like the japanese things may have been in the works already and just happened to come out right now But the eu tech commissioner Chooses when he decides to make this announcement and he's making it right now when the spotlight is on huawei about all of this Yeah, of course he is i mean Well, not not to ruffle any feathers or anything But the i've been following the huawei story pretty closely Especially since the the bloom boar burg a chip story came out and you know things of that nature And we still don't have any public facing information that says huawei has done anything That would be a security or privacy concern straight to the us So it's very hard for me to look at this story and say like you know other than you know mangs The current thing that she's going through aside to say like yes We should ban all huawei products or yes We should ban all zte products because we don't have that information to confirm it And that's coming from a security and privacy standpoint at which point I'm generally quite paranoid about the products that I use and I just don't have that information To tell me that I shouldn't be looking at these products with the same equal bias that I give to any other product The only thing I know of Uh is the uk is undergoing an investigation right now regarding the software That is pushed to these because they found some abnormal behavior In real life use of huawei security or huawei networking products that they didn't notice in testing And so they're trying to figure out why that is that's far from a smoking gun That's hey, we see this anomaly. We need to check it out Maybe it leads to something but at this point like you say there is nothing Solid about this. Well, we know for a fact that cisco routers had problems with them I'm not trying to let anybody off the hook here, but these are the facts that we know Yeah, absolutely, and we need to look at those facts You know as they come out and Definitely make sure that we keep all of them into consideration. But right now we just don't have that information Um with with mangs thing It's it's pretty interesting And i'm definitely going to be following this really closely because uh, it is something to concern ourselves with But at the moment it's it's Such the beginning of a story That we just don't have that info. Yeah, this is uh, this is you know If we if you missed yesterday's show and you want a a deeper Discussion of all of this and the political implications and all that check out dts from yesterday So moving on uh Reuters reports a source tells it amazon is looking at bringing its cashierless amazon go stores to airports Public records show amazon has met with several u.s airports as possible locations for the stores including lax and san jose international amazon has opened seven stores since january and chicago san francisco and seattle Near office buildings. Hey, no stop calling lax lax Sorry Work really hard over there. They are lax on a lot of the things that they do So it's actually kind of a genius I'm gonna start calling it lax. It's just like with ord. I call it ord It's just something weird. I do I call it word. Is it not called word? Thank you I'm good. I'm glad I'm not the only one I've been to an amazon go store and it was a really great experience and knowing how You know, sometimes you're running late trying to get to your next flight and knowing that sometimes the The meals on flights are not so great and you just want to check out really fast They do have some really great options in the amazon go store as far as like pre cooked meals that you can purchase as well as Really nice like even vegan and gmo Free products that people can buy that are very friendly to dietary restrictions So it seems like a very awesome idea to put the amazon go stores in Your international airports Yeah, I mean somebody who's I sometimes i'm not running late, but I often am running late for a flight And I also, you know, if it's morning, I need a coffee, you know And I haven't had time to get it at home before I you know get on the plane or Whatever it is anything that may cut down on that line of five people ahead of me at the coffee bean. We were like I really want this food, but I gotta go, you know gotta get to my gate I think the airport is The perfect place for this and it's not just oh it's friction-free and you know, you know You don't have to talk to a person. It's just time saving Yeah, absolutely Now I will say when I when I went to the go store There were a lot of employees there that were still kind of training the general public about how you use the go store You have to download a separate application entirely you have to scan it on the way in So you do have to teach people how to use it But I think down the line Once enough people understand how to use it kind of like we do with mobile payments now at stores Which is generally accepted Then it would be extremely fast and you would not have as much confusion in the future But we still need some time to get there. Yeah, I have my trippett my delta app And now my amazon app ready to go as I'm holding my phone in my hand running through the airport totally Tech wrench sources confirm a report by music business worldwide That apple has acquired platoon a london startup that uses analytics to find musicians and then help those musicians Distribute their work the co-founder and ceo of platoon denzel figelson also confirmed the news on linkedin figelson used to work at itunes as an executive so They probably knew each other well enough to think that this was a very good acquisition to make and it does if you read the story It does appear that apple is is acquiring This company not just hiring, you know, there's the aqua hire where they're like, well, we're not really buying the company We just wanted these people to work here. They they want this system Which implies that apple wants to in some way at least do a and r which is, you know, acquiring talent if not be a label Well an analytics like this, um can it, you know, it's certainly if you're a smaller musician and talented and and the sort of analytics would would help you Expand your reach great that could also apply to apple's podcast section. I mean the analytics here um, you know, if it's robust and Helps connect people with other people who want to pay for good things being done Makes a lot of sense for apple so that it's not just a matter of big labels and apple working with them Which we've known for a long time apple's been You know hinting around trying to trying to branch out into into other avenues. That's a really good point because platoon Apparently also works with non-musicians. They work with writers so you could feed people into the iBooks store too Exactly promote those that's um It's it's another sign of apple being ready to transition away from being a product-based company to a services-based company too Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to our other show daily tech headlines dot com all right microsoft president brad smith Asked governments In a speech to regulate facial recognition technology in order to protect personal privacy and avoid discrimination And surveillance he made this speech at the brookings institution Smith said and i'm gonna quote him here We believe that the only way to protect against this race to the bottom is to build a floor of responsibility Ooh Through the phrase right you know race to the bottom. We're gonna put a floor. Yeah in there. Yeah, it's almost regan esk Uh a floor of responsibility that supports healthy market contip competition So he's like we we don't want the government to pick winners and losers We just want we want a floor that says you can't do irresponsible things and these this is what they are Uh smith said we must ensure that the year 2024 doesn't look like a page from the novel 1984 like does he have a campaign speechwriter? Love it on this kind of stuff Uh smith said laws should require human review of facial recognition results And if facial recognition is being used to identify a consumer the law should make sure that consumers know explicitly when and how it's has happening He also advocates requiring search warrants for the use of facial recognition. He outlined six principles He said facial recognition use should be fair transparent accountable non-discriminatory include notice and consent Only lawful surveillance. That's where the warrant comes in And microsoft plans to publish a document next week suggesting ways to implement facial recognition regulations that serve those six principles I love this This is the kind of Regulation where and and i'll be the first to say i'm not always a big fan of having government regulation in technology Especially like with the recent australian bill that passed with encryption like that's a great example But when it comes to regulating for consumer Privacy and security this is big news and this is the kind of thing I would love to see in other form factors of technology not just facial recognition But things like iot for consumers. That's a great example Other ways that you're you're able to track what you're doing this is It's it's good regulation or it's a good idea I just hope that technology companies will look at this and extremely seriously consider it because I and and also consumers as well. I hope that consumers consider it too whenever they're making purchases Yeah, amazon has been in hot water for providing some facial recognition technology to do a police department in orlando Uh and not really wanting to talk about it a lot And and that's in opposition to what microsoft is pushing here like you need to be transparent tell people what it does Tell people where and when it's being used it can still be used And I think that's one of the interesting things when I think about facial recognition a lot of times the balance with With surveillance technology or law enforcement technology is if people know it's being used then they'll avoid it and they're less likely And it's less likely to be effective facial recognition I mean for the most part if it's out there Even if you know it's there If you need to go to that location Then I don't know I guess you try to put on a mask and try to fool it But you might be doing that anyway if you just know that facial recognition exists So i'm not sure knowing it's being used in an area Reduces the effectiveness as much as it might in other technologies Well, this is also coming from microsoft right and tom you mentioned amazon I mean if brad smith is saying publicly listen, we need Government regulation or this is going to get real out of hand and we're going to you know look like a dystopian society from the book 1984 before we know it I think that there's you know in many cases Large companies such as microsoft and amazon and facebook and google and apple and whoever else would get together and perhaps form a consortium of companies that have all decided that we agree on you know, what's the right and and Moral way to move forward with this it does not sound like microsoft Believes that its competitors are on the same page and that's why they're going in this direction Yeah, there are lots of other industries that that they could be pushing for this too So I mean it's interesting that they picked facial recognition to to be the leader There are there are lots of surveillance issues obviously with encryption which microsoft has fought against in other arenas uh with with ai in fact France and canada announced plans for the international panel on artificial intelligence to promote the responsible adoption of ai That is in their words human centric and grounded in human rights inclusion diversity innovation and economic growth And it's interesting that sort of parallels microsoft's announcement here where it said We want a responsible floor of regulation that still allows market competition All of these statements are saying we still we don't want to hurt the economic Innovation of stuff. We just want to make sure that we Preserve human rights, which I think it really is a reaction to a lot of the controversies around social networks where things just plowed ahead and Even if it's just the perception of trampling on human rights people are upset that it wasn't included from the beginning I think in both cases the ai and the facial recognition the industry As a whole has an instinct that okay, maybe we need to talk about this now before it becomes a problem I was wondering why they started talking about facial recognition now And I think you hit the nail on the head because facial recognition has been used For example in casinos for years and years I mean we we're definitely getting our face tracked every time we go to ces every year And and knowing that that technology has been out there for so long It does make sense that it would happen right now because we are getting so much more in tuned with Our own human rights when it comes to technology And at a time when facial recognition is getting good Exactly, you know the facial recognition in the casinos was okay And it was expensive. Yeah, it's not the best technology You needed to be as rich as a casino to afford it or at least to have an interest That was as rich as there's So so now when you can just you know provide it as a cloud service potentially And and it becomes much more widely available. I mean that's that's all internet innovation Disruption has followed that problem that that system where the rules that worked when it was available But only available on a limited basis because of cost or accessibility Don't necessarily work when it suddenly scales and now everybody can access it. Yeah, absolutely And it was interesting in the story too How he mentioned what one of the principles is transparency and I'm glad he included that because one of the examples They gave was a classroom that they're using this in to track Student emotions and then give that information to the teacher and they even mentioned in the story that They might not even be sharing this information with students or at least that hasn't been determined yet So so having that area concern When you know several people are involved and they might not even know that they're being tracked I would be much more comfortable as a consumer Even as a student if that information is transparent to me. So I know what's going on when I'm there Yeah, there was a parent of that student. Yeah, absolutely Uh an organization called ai now is issuing a report calling on companies to waive their trade secrecy That if it would get in the way of public accountability Uh not saying that they don't get the trade secrecy. They're saying hey you companies in this case You should in in the interest of public good and being a good corporate citizen Wade your trade secrecy if it comes into conflict with with being able to Tell the public what's being done because sometimes, you know trade secrets are Widely protected On the on the farthest reaches that you can interpret them in order to make sure something doesn't leak through I think ai has done a great job as an industry of being transparent and open sourcing things and and allowing The public to see exactly how it works Uh and and so maybe facial recognition could take a tip from that too Well, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit There are lots of facial recognition stories there and others as well You can join the group submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com Head on over to facebook as well if you hang out there facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show You know we have I'm so glad chris christensen is back the amateur traveler has some news of a cruise ship powered by Dead fish. This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute I was interested to see that hurt gruten which is not only a fun cruise line to say but one that runs up the coast of Norway and other exploration places has announced that they're going to be Powering their cruise ships at least in part with dead fish They're going to be using biogas as fuel which is derived from dead fish at least in part for these vessels To make them more eco friendly using a renewable fuel source Now there was no mention of whether these fish had lived a long and happy life And whether they had died under mysterious circumstances, but it's still a great step forward I'm chris christensen from amateur traveler. Yes. Tell us more about these fish. Were they killed by the boat and then Sucked in horrible. Yeah Uh, or are they are they the koi in the pond that they're just you know live a long and happy life and naturally, you know pass Um, hey everybody, let's check out the mailbag Let's do this one comes from tony wang shannon and tom and i've all worked with tony in the past Back in the twit days tony says i bought the iphone 10 for my wife for her birthday and after two months of use I asked her how she likes the phone and she hates base id. Yes, tony's wife. I'm with you She was previously an iphone 7 user So she can't check her phone and play around with her phone now while she's in a meeting Because now she has to hold her phone up to her face to unlock the phone can't be clandestine about it Just thought i'd write in to let sarah know that she's not the only person who hates face id I do want to make a prediction that in three years Apple will bring back touch id as an in-screen fingerprint scanner and call it touch id To max plus As an android user over here who doesn't follow iphone news. You can only unlock your phone with face id You can use passcode But you can use pass. There's no button anywhere. There's no touch id to be had now tony is he's agreeing with me because i've been complaining lately about The fact that like sure if my phone's right here, you know as long as we're doing this works fine But there are many times. I got a big old. I got a big old, you know, 10x 10x Whatever big phone It's a big phone and so when it's on the table, you know, and i'm kind of you know, maybe doing stuff In the peripheral vision doesn't work anymore. So i'm entering my passcode a hundred times a day where I've been used to doing that never for three years Oh, yeah, they should go one plus as we're out and do the in in-screen fingerprint sensor That's one of the best things ever. Well, tony. I think he might be onto something cilantro it's all i'm saying it's cilantro Yeah, you either love it or you don't Yeah, uh, let's check in with known cilantro lover len peralta Who has been illustrating the show? I love cilantro. You're have how do you know this such cilantro's biggest fan? Len, what are you the drawing? Well, you know, I was so taken by the line 2024 will not be 1984 is that sort of what I did for the day's uh image I felt it was very dystopian a little bit scary and I played it with a lot of shadows of this one Which I thought was probably kind of cool. So uh Um, you can pick this up in my online store, which is uh is always a fun thing plus I haven't been on the show for a little while. So I haven't I've been really busy working on um custom drawn holiday cards I'm still doing them if you want until december 20th And this is a special for dts listeners only you can use the discount code dts and check out to save 20 bucks Off the cards. Very nice. Yes. Cool. Yes, sir. Uh, go do that right now. It's not too late Get in get in Yes, also, thanks to shannon morris for being with us on friday. See when lin comes back. I get all discombobulated I'm just like sort of like into the artwork Shannon Good to see you again as well and let folks know where they can keep up with all the other work that you do Every week and every day and every hour and every minute Well, thank you sarah and tom. Uh, if you do have patreon supporters, they get a nice little Security spiel from me every week. That's included on the dts patreon And if you're a patron of threat wire, you also get a security bulletin every week from dts tom and sarah, which is awesome Love it. Uh, but if you're interested in my shows threat wire I just talked about the crazy marriott starwood specifically Database that was stolen that was huge news And if you're curious if you are a part of that definitely go over there to threat wire Because I broke down the whole thing and my other big show is tech thing tek thing Dot com and I just reviewed the dji osmo mobile too Which I am currently using for all of my vlogmas videos because I am a vlogger on my personal youtube channel So I figured I would review that crazy little gimbal thing because apparently i'm a gimbal person I never knew this about myself till now gimbal girls Yeah, so and thank you to everybody who watches my shows. I appreciate it Excellent. Thank you shannon. 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It's a lot a lot What should we call this episode good morning julia good morning Building a floor of responsibility That's a good one captain jack ai is just fun games Hey, it's just fun and games ai is just fun and games Building a floor of responsibility I had to put my thumb out building a floor of responsibility Well 1984 may 2024 wait 2024 be like that. You know what i mean I know what you mean. So you want me to do building a floor of responsibility? Sure I like you seem that you mentioned it a couple of times. So No, i'm just Repeating it as a as a as a bit Uh, no, it's good. I like that one Okay, sir likes it. You like it. I like it. We all like it Yay You have won friday Congratulations, you get Oh, wow, but we used it before no, uh, sorry, you're not seeing why i'm what i'm reacting to I upgraded to wordpress 5 the new thing which has been a controversial upgrade And it's my first time seeing Oh, what it looks like those are always fine. You know, I actually saw that this morning Uh, when I was in there for headlines and I was like I'm just gonna go ahead and not do this I'm just gonna go ahead and That's not kind of whatever this I had towards the problematic Have you all seen the new creator studio on youtube? Yeah, ah terrible Well, it wasn't like it was that great to begin with. Yeah, but you know what? I knew where everything was and uh, Yeah, it's just bad. We just have to figure out where everything is all over again This is a great, uh, a great reason you should listen to my editor's desk Uh episode this week because I talked about my reaction to feed lee redesigning And talked about like I stopped myself and said wait, how much of my anger Is actual legitimate problems How much of it is just not liking change because now I have to learn a different way of doing things But eventually it won't matter because I'll learn the new way and how much of it is Features that I don't think are there but actually are there. They just got moved to a different place Hmm good point Every time I log into xbox live, they've redesigned the interface and I can't find anything The past few times has haven't been as abrupt That's the worst Yeah, it's all right. It works. I mean, I don't use my xbox is it worse to say got my shield, but Oh, does it do oh no, there we go everything is in a different place. It is it is disconcerting though Like I'm slower On things when when it changes so much when the interface changes that much because I I suddenly have to think about where everything is Well, and it's also like, you know, I I know, you know, our first reaction is like we hate it. It's different but but but there were you know Probably a whole team of people who put a lot of thought into why it should be different Patreon did that a couple times were like Moving moving the post button and I'm like, where is the schedule? Where is it? I don't know Help me. I don't know. I'm stupid You're not stupid. I'm dumb Help me Well, I think I think for a lot of us where it's like there are certain, you know, you've got You you making content is the the creative part of it And you just that's the way that you do it and as soon as that gets disrupted your Your whole your whole Workflow now has to be like read You know, you have to relearn it. I know for me it's like if you change one thing I'm completely discombobulated and I'm and I'm furious but then With photoshop, and I don't know if anybody really uses photoshop a lot, but when you would need to scale something Oh Yes, you would you would have to hit apple tea And I'm like what is going on like I would scale it was just like, you know, muscle memory, you know to do it I looked it up and they're like, oh, no All I have to do is just use the scale button and it just automatically scales it for you without moving I'm like, why would you change that? That's so funny because scott johnson just on wednesday was complaining about a different thing they changed Where shift used to constrain and now you you don't use shift or you shift to unconstrained It's like the x they changed it and it's like, why did you do that? It's just it it was like from for a couple weeks. I was like, what what is going on? Is this broken or something? It's something wrong in my computer terrible I but I do think some of it is like right now I'm slower at this blog post because things are in a different place and my muscle memory doesn't work anymore It's not that it's bad It's not that the design is worse. In fact, the design is probably better once I get used to it And after a week or two I will get used to it and it will be net positive. I have no doubt But today I'm angry because it's like, oh, I feel like I'm swimming in jello like That thing is where it's supposed to be. Ooh, it's the worst jello swimming Has made roger hungry You know, I think I have to go get my daughter I think I have to go My daughter's been swimming in jello all afternoon. She's swimming in jello. I gotta go get her Yeah, oh, yeah, when you mentioned jello, I'd realize my daughter's been in her jello No, it's not that at all has nothing to do with that. That was just something I realized I looked at my I looked at my little watch here and I thought Yeah, no worries Thank you. Let's see you again. It's good to see you too I meant to tell you like this your your art's always good But this is one of those universal ones where you don't even have to watch the show You're gonna look at this. This wouldn't be like, oh, I get it like this Yeah, I wanted to do something that was um, well, it's really hard because of the coming back I want to do something's like, oh, wow, that's really really super cool But just the just the lights and everything else. I think kind of dramatic and felt pretty cool Yeah, yeah, it's really good. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah And now in return you can go watch good morning. Julia all Over and over show it to eileen. Let me know what she thinks about it. Honestly. All right. Yeah, I will Tell the backstory before you show it to her though Should I yes? No, you need to because that puts it in the context of like how You know bat crap insane this guy. Okay. All right So he's not in control of his own mental faculties He doesn't he didn't really think because everybody that's the thing about I have to go actually but this is What I'll say about this is that I think every guy Is as is Joe has been Joe in some part of their lives like You find someone attractive you want to talk to them But you got to be cool about it and he's not cool about it at all. That's like Hmm Do you agree with that roger? No, you look like a defense attorney I don't look. I'm not defending Joe. I think Joe gets what he needs like right like these He gets proper shame here. We've all been Joe at one time Well in our mind Probably hopefully none of us have gone past that line and left the A young woman a really odd message But uh, you know, it's just It's just bad. You got to just be cool about it. Your jello daughter is waiting for you. Yeah Good morning roger. See you later. All right. See you guys later Bylin So i'm thinking of doing a hat tournament What does that mean is that like magic magic? Do we have to fight or something with our hats? Fight with your hats I spent so much time with my dTNS hat in the rain yesterday. I was like, you know, I got to reshape this guy a little bit so I didn't wear it during the show, but Well, um, tell me more about this tournament tom. Yeah, the idea would be I have No close to 140 hats over here And what i've been doing is in the discord every friday I take a picture of three of them and I put them up for a vote The one that gets the the most vote differential is the one I wear The one that gets the second most vote I put halfway back So it'll come back up faster because it got a decent amount of votes and then the one that was last goes at the very end So i'm thinking instead of doing a tournament where it's just two hats every friday and whoever wins moves on to the next round So I have a hat tournament going on until there is one victor hat at some point You'll call it the quickening the happening I realize I've stunned you now with this idea and then the winner will be able to have Children and a normal life It's uh, as old guy in our discord says it would be the hat trick Ah I don't play hockey um, so I'm I'm I'm at a loss to understand whether you think It's a good or a bad idea Oh And it started in cricket is what i'm hearing on this hat tournament idea Three wickets taken by a bowler and three consecutive balls treachery rewarded with the presentation of a hat. Thank you wicker roger Trying to figure out what that means that drink So sarah shannon are just being too polite all right I I think more hats are no better I agree I like hats. Do you like the tournament idea or is that silly? Yes Yes Correct yes, it's a good silly idea It is silly. It is. Yeah, it's a good silly idea. Yeah, that's mean bad. That's fun. All right. All right. All right Can I tell you a joke? Does oh what do you want the hat? You know how the grammy's always do like These are all the surprises and all the people that got snubbed So bbc world on twitter tweeted hashtag grammy's 2019 snubs and surprises So I replied to them and I was like thanks for the shout out They did at snubs No, but I just Like it's like a google alert but um What what does that mean? Oh, like someone so should have been Nominated a record of the year that kind of thing. Okay. Got it. Yeah I um Was looking through golden globe norms and Boy, do I have a lot of stuff to watch And I watch a lot of stuff I would say I'm like Pretty up on most series There's certain series that I I decide not to watch for you know on purpose because it's not my thing, but it's like How are there so many like like Widely regarded as like wonderful series and movies that I just haven't seen I've worked to do This happens every year by the way every year. I'm like, I mean How much harder can I try trying really hard? I watch a lot of tv. How have I missed any? Yeah, I mean that's all I do every night I mean it's that's a that's like a separate activity like more so than it used to be like because there's just so many things It's almost a chore. Well, so for example marvelous mrs. Maisel, right? New new season out. Um people love that show I watched the first couple episodes of the first season and I was like For whatever reason it just wasn't speaking to me. Have it revisit fine But it doesn't mean it's bad Right, I'm sure it's actually really good and I'd probably like it if I gave him another chance But I'm just watching other things But now it's like that's all I'm hearing about and now I feel left out So then it becomes this weird thing where I'm like, do I have to watch this tonight? Like I don't want to I don't get too behind because it's going to win a bunch of awards And then I'm going to you know wish that I had an opinion whether or not I thought it deserved them Mm-hmm Yeah, I always feel that way about the Oscars too. Like I want to I want to have watched at least all the best picture nominees, right? Right. Well, and there's like nine of them now. So it's harder than ever There's 10. Isn't there there literally is 10? No, that was nine Me you might be right. There are lots. Yeah And they're you know, some of them are movies where I'm like, yeah, I gotta get to that I've been meaning to I'll I'll get to that before the Oscars. And then there are others where I'm like, I've never even heard of this So Oscar movies have to hit the theaters before the end of December to to get consideration And uh, and they have to have a theater run. That's 90 days. So presumably they're all out in December Why not? Make them all available on demand And I guess it's still too late You can't keep the 90 day Window and have them all available on demand before no, I mean if they're out earlier than December then you can That's why some of them do come out on the mat. If what I'm saying is it would be great if They all had second theater runs and were all available on demand like the week before the Oscars So you could just binge on all of them if you want and and people would want to go to the theaters because the people Who really like movies like that would want to do that Yeah, if there was some Temporary subscription VOD thing where it's just like best picture nominees. I will buy this for one week. Yeah, you know Yeah, get on it someone Uh, well video folks. We were we are going to have everything I could think of to say is inappropriate Thanks for watching. Uh audio folks stick around. There's more to come