 ज़ेडीप सर जदास जदास जदास, सर सब दोन है आज, सब को दोन कना दिया गय, ज़ेडीप सर कैसे हो आप, how things going, how things going, on what front, any front, this is a Gupta Gu before all the doins join in, that's okay, I'm going doing well, had some international issues, temporal results, you fought through them, you fought through them, just like India is fighting, they are always fighting, well, I don't know, I have even done it, but the point is, today what we are doing is, we are not just focusing on Belarus, we are focusing on Belarus and Bahrain and saying, आज जो ये दो मुकापले हमें देखने को मिले है, हाली में, इसे एक अफतेगे दोरान, Indian football has gained a lot, lost a lot, where has the car reached, we have got to see something new, इन सब चीजनों के बाची तम करेंगे, विद्रेने टी सेंग, इश्वा के है, में सिदान तानी जेदी, जैदी, बासु, रिजट होट, and my name is Arjun, Richard served us with us after the Bahrain game, so I kind of have a sense of what he got from the team, even though I know we haven't spoken about Belarus, but I don't know how much more there is to talk about after that Belarus game, from the two games that India has played under steam match, and against higher ranked opposition, higher quality opposition it must be said, what are your take aways, have we gained something, can we say कि हमें ये मिला, इन दो मुकागरो से, नहीं, मिला तो तो तोड़ा क्लारिटी तो मिल जाएगा, one is that what's exactly missing in the starting 11, what are the qualities that we need to be successful for the final stage of the AFC qualifiers, तो उस में अगर सेस करेंगे ती के पिच में युनेट पर युनेट, दिफेंसर युनेट लेलो, मिज्फी युनेट लेलो, फोवविद लैंग लेलो, तो उस में क्या कोलिटी ज्निसीं थे, तो मिन खम ख्लोज़ तो what brand of football that he wants to play, so once you add it up, subtract it, उसे तो ये तो मिलजेगे प्रास्खीं, what we have gained, at least we know that which are the players that we need to look at, and I am sure he will have a very close eye on what's happening with the AFC Champions League, where most of the national team players are playing the trade as well, तो भी ये से तो इतना तो मिलगाए की ती का वानेटी मिलगे लेला, higher ranked teams and at least in terms of what's exactly missing in each unit, तो उसे तो पड़ा ज़ेगर की आगे ते वानेगे. पशकय मिलगे ती का अग़े थी? अनलीक करनी है। तो आदा में झोद अन्जाए वो आदा मैंगे अना तायाम की नहोंगे दान्धी क्या है, आप आप आप बतला आपके दमाग में आप देलरूस लोग सम लुक बाएक न दूस तुगेंज, गेन, लुस, अज़ दे सेम सेम, अज़ गो कापी ताईम से चल रहा है। आप आप रहा है। आप आप आप आप आप आप आप आप रहा है। आप आप आप जावन रहा है। आँपको बस्कितना मेच्से से फिरम, बोट कम मेच्से तो यह से भी दोगान, जाँ जागाँ आप जागे एक। अदियार तशीगौग। और तशीईसगे सबगसे साजिया। या Los Angie, Aya भी बार भी थे। साजिया। वूले कि अदेलगे भी जीवेट के साजिया। दियार तशीईसगे। शैशाटिया। आप़ी अपरिल आपरिल विनान शासाटिया। ल atryan बहुत बट बह� बती पर तरहठा है तवजेँ आंगा अगर आदा जोबनेगा। मुअध करनेजन नहीं ज़ाए περι्या तब मुधन आपरदिया। अगर आपसा अपन्गा है बाद देता थ्सनेल जाए बादा पादावान श्ड़ान सब मुच्या है प्रदिया ञद गर से जीवाड़ो होगरा भी. साः कोद्रर कुईदा ह playground mannless having, अभी उनुने बाल चिना ही होता है, और उपर रान करते और तिर से बाल वापस आजात जाता है, पिच्छे. अगर कोछेँ इजुकेषन देपनी आप भी आप आप आप जाया गर गएगर गाूंगाूँ में या अप उस्पूल में अप यह ज़े क्च्छो आप पर सब नित, लेगन अगर कोछ लोग देखेगा एगर, अप प्रपो प्रपाद बाल कराउन अप प्रपाद प्रपाद प मैं अदी़ ठनोडा किऎं चर लीच किव谷 है, now it's a long way but our work is that मॊछल ता चाँको। its a long way but & one day we will see & this is not the right time ये जो बुद्दाग इश्वा के न रहीती अप्टाश्वा ने ते न अप्रुप्रेट वेज तुकी सबसे बड़ा प्रोबल में कालिन्टरी नहीं हैं एक प्री कालिन्टर पहले आने विट्टीे सब सेकल हो सकता रहीं बाद्पे दिगारें प्र रख्फ मी नहीं हैं बच्छ को बोल दथे देगें कि विट्च्छों देखोजी अबी जी विद्दावन की जो सीटी न बोध लंभी न हैं तो दिया जलागे रहु, अभी भुजाना, बत अभी भुजानने या ताईन नहीं, बहुत ताईम लगने, अभी तपस्स्या करके लगे रहना है, आपने क्योंगी आनी भाई, गड़ to have you with us, finally, योंगी इन दो मुकाऊलों के बाई, मैं, मैं, मैं तो बात कर रहुं, जो आपका एक श्टेक होल्डर है, the fan, who has become pretty vocal because there are ways of being vocal as well now, is saying sags team match, sags team match, but that is not the solution right. You can bring in anyone else, not going to change too much, is it? No, not immediately. I mean so, like you, like we see whenever there is a change of coach, in club football we get to see this much more frequently than in international football obviously, but whenever there is a change of coach, immediately something changes in the dynamic right. I think Renédy had the experience of going through this process during this specific season of the ISL, where he took charge of the team for four games, and you could see immediately the short term improvement in, and the kind of impact that he had on the team's mentality, the team's approach, and how they were executing things on the pitch. But like you guys have been talking about since we started the live, that if you are looking at it from a longer term perspective, and looking at building something that leads to progress or steps forward, then sacking of a coach, a head coach of a national team, I don't know how much of an impact it has. If the perspective that the coach has been brought in from is to build something, if the perspective that the coach has been brought in from is just to use his influence to gain some kind of PR traction or to arrange some of these friendly matches against countries like Belarus and Bahrain who otherwise may not be so inclined to play against India, I don't know. And if he specifically engaged just because the 2023 Asian Cup is scheduled to be held and India wanted a high profile coach for that job, then maybe the perspective is different and maybe then you can make some changes. But otherwise I don't think any real impact will be had of sacking coaches. Sacking coaches is a knee jerk, it's a reactionary move in my opinion. I'm just saying if you take a decision on the coach right now after 15 games, that's not knee jerk. The only thing is the reason you won't take a decision now is because it's so close to qualifying. Because you are in the middle of a rock and a hard place, right? Last stage of qualifying is coming up in little or no time. I would still say, I mean if you have to do it again to go back to a point that we've reiterated I think many times on the show, I think there are some Indian coaches that have had some exposure, some time with the system and for the kind of qualifying campaign that lies ahead I think definitely it would be a great opportunity to give the responsibility to an Indian coach and see what they do with it if that move has to be done. But again, the timing is not great, it's not ideal, it's not like immediately we'll get someone in who will have a greater understanding of the problematic aspects of what we've seen in C matches 2 years plus. From the outside, their understanding of the current setup won't be less than that, it won't be much. True and there will always be a disadvantage for any new guy coming in because our system is only so ad hoc at the moment. I'm just going to, before we let Ishwak and Renati go, Ishwak do you want to make any other point before we let you go? Yes, just want to say, everybody touched on this. Please ignore him. As Richard rightly mentioned, there are a lot of things. See, I want to just tell the question you ask any also. The second coach is not like any kind of solution for this. When Constantine was there, we said, okay, second. Now one more coach is there, we want to second. How many times we will just try to not to blame on system rather to blame on coaches who are coming. It might be tomorrow with the Indian coaches. This is our level and Indian coach might have some good results also. But definitely have a bad results also with the stronger team. Then we will be saying, okay, bye, Ishkovi Nikalo. Until and unless we go from the grass root as Renati by saying, coach education program has been doing really good. We are the products also Renati, me, all when we were playing. We have done this through the coach education program only. But it is still less. It is very, very less giving the dynamics of our entire country and the region how big it is. We have to do more. There is talent everywhere. I will give very one example. In Kashmir, JNK Bank back, I think in 2000 something, they started an academy. And I used to train with them. I promise I still remember this. I saw a lot of young kids playing there. Most of those young kids are in their first team. And one of them is Danish. So this is what when you have a proper academy, with the proper coaches there, they may not produce 20 players. But they will definitely produce one good player. This is what I meant earlier. I know disrespect. There can be the sea less. I was saying the mentality is such where we want to spend less grass root pay. Whereas we should try to get a better coach there. Be him better and let him do that job and he can develop that future of ours. But we try to cut there. Try to put it senior. And we go a little back. Where we have to spend and where we have to get a good coach. A good coach, I am not disrespect to the coaches who have sea license or D license or B license. I am not saying, but I am saying where there is a good coach. But Ishwak sir, there is a big problem with that. If I am thinking of investing in development and academy and just bringing the point to the Richard mate he is saying that if I am going to invest so much for 10 competitions for 15 competitions, what should I invest? Why should I beat myself up? See this is what I am trying to tell you. It is over interrelated. Like you cannot develop one part and then leave the other part there only. It is everything. We have to pick all those options, all those things all together. More matches. Spread out a coach education program develop your coaches as Richard rightly said. Even if I am a good coach I am also only getting 18 matches or something like matches for me also a season. It is not only for players. We always talk about players. But imagine there are a lot of good coaches who are just doing the second division. They are getting 8 matches and for entire season we will feel with the proper 8 matches with those second division teams. They do get the state league and all that. But as Richard rightly said it is not only about the coaches it is not only about the players less matches it is about the coaches also. So everything that system hopefully next year we might have more matches but we have to take everything. It is from the grassroot. As Renitibai said it will not happen today. We will do the same. He started the program 25-30 years ago. So for us as Richard also said we are 11 and trust me even in professional level I have showed some players how to push pass but still how to keep it down. I am not trying to criticize them but it is the fault in our system like fault in our coaching my coaching I am saying because we were not told that we have to teach the 6-year-old child we are teaching that at the age of 14. I remember when Mangi had gone off to Melbourne Melbourne Hearts Melbourne Hearts at that time in the Ailey he had gone for a bit of a training stint and in some of the interviews he did when he was there this is exactly the point that he was also making that as a 27-28 year old I am going into a training session where I am still trying to cope with the basic technical aspects of things that these kids who are 10 years younger than me they have all sorted out from a very young age so those are the real gaps in the system that exists. But I have to say here if I have to say that we have to make a sporting nation when we make a sporting nation in your village and community there is so much football ground what is your government doing what is your community doing the community how much football ground you have to make in the community you have to make a community hall what are you doing now we are talking about beating and Richard said we have to have a calendar how many years does your village's children play how many years does your state league play how many years does your district league play so now this is a problem which has been having for the last 30 years I feel that's why our region is going nowhere and even if we work on coaching education jitna karne ke baat bhi agar yeh license structure wise nahi rahega if we don't have a baby league we are talking again and again I am tired of this but this is the only way if we don't take care of baby leagues if we don't care of youth league youth league may be now round glass has become a champion but how many years have you played four or five times you have become a champion what is the meaning of this how many years after playing four times you have become a champion how many years so just see how many matches our kids are getting under 16, under 15, under 19 are getting so we can't just think about it do you see the lack of match practice affecting your kids at classic competitive games yes that's why we have been before covid we have started this youth league which will go on for five months we are starting that again so that under 13, 16, 19 they all will get at least five months of course to get to do it for nine months it costs a lot of money but at least start with five that's what we are trying again so at least in Manipur we at least get competitive matches but look in every corner and Swag said after winning the Premier League a Danish Farooq has come so Manipur Sirip won't do it or my district won't do it or my state won't do it it has to be all over India what is Kerala doing what is Kashmir doing what is Bangalore doing what is Delhi doing how many matches are playing God knows 10-15 matches in a year so this is the biggest problem in between amateur and professional so any Delhi player who is only played in Delhi and when they go outside basic tactics of how to move in the field those are a little found wanting for the Delhi player so he understood how to learn and probably this is what is happening all over the country if someone is less here then he has a problem when they go to a high level and their adjustment period is here this was much needed nice chat for the two of you but you have got to go so I let the two of you leave but Siddharth is here Richard is here and Sir is here both of them are on fire though why don't you just hang on to them for another 10 minutes we are wrapping up anyway no no no it's okay I will stay for 10 minutes because I have one meeting with sports council sorry guys but before I go Richard and Reni you know for what you know for what pro for the pro pro yeah pro sir pro for the pro okay I will speak I don't know I don't know I don't know okay bye bye Siddharth you have been hearing us for a while sorry I didn't get you in and you started the show you started the show by saying and I think everyone has come to that point saying that you can't blame the player you can't blame the coach somewhere or the other you have two point fingers at your system your system is not working what is lacking in your system and let's not just focus on the top because when you talk about the system you know you have got a feeder that helps the top to grow in your eyes that really needs to be fixed in the system or has been missing in these last 7 years this is a simple thing you used to play 40-50 matches and now you are in the domestic season what do you mean there is nothing technical nothing is there we can see it in front of us how many matches he used to play in 1998-99 season actually one of the players was just stopped playing in India I should name him or not but he was telling me one day after 2011 in my career in my 3 years of my career 4 years of my career I played around 120 matches wow and I might have to play another 10 years to play another 120 matches because Indian football has been stopped playing that's all so coach ko kya blame kar nahi player ko kya blame kar nahi players are not playing this national coach you want him to produce result it is like he is called first in your class don't take tuition without taking tuition you make them first in your class how many days we have given to the national coach in Indian football you cannot go by the European way I will leave players for 72 hours before the matches that is not the way that is the European style rules have been framed according to that Bob Houghton always used to say all the rules have been framed because of the European nations for the benefit of the European nations Asian nations will have to will have to do on their own way you think of him in qualifiers I hope it will be better because he will have a longer camp at least give him a 25 day camp at least give him a 25 day camp before that there will be matches in April give him some time give him some time you make him first but the child will come to you only yesterday they will come and next day they have to stand first in their classes is it possible and if you have to I was just listening somebody has started sex team act or whosoever actually if there are people who should be sacked Mr. Patel and his committee because he has they have brought these things down to here whether how we are playing and where we are playing is not the case but our boys were playing 45-50 matches a year they were that's a good point because when this blueprint was being made for the new league you reckoned they are new or didn't know that eventually by year 7 year 8 you are only playing 20 games see I don't know who aggression atleast would have been given at that time saying that he will play more matches all of that will happen those things were those things were never in the consideration consideration was was what I say commercial purpose ever since you said that this new league even in 2014-15 when you said that it is only an entertainment league even at that time you kept the window clean for this tournament you did not allow any other tournament to be held at that point of time those 3 months that time it was a 3 months window now it has become a 6 months window so your purpose was not to extend football or to keep not to play 40 matches 45 matches these calculations were never there your purpose was completely commercial your purpose was to establish a particular tournament and whatever the consequence be at the cost of whosoever it is so that has been established quite well and now you see the consequences that's all nothing else nobody counted matches at that time nobody had those technical technical thinking the technical thinking part of it was being done supposedly in the same building where the technical director of the AFF and all at the same time in discussions about the new league was happening and how that was structured there was a big white paper and a document that was also being prepared called Laksh which was a sort of strategic strategic document this is my chip this is my chip this is my note this is my chip this is my chip one thing you tell me Laksh have been ridiculed also by some people i am not getting into this no listen to me that he has how Laksh been followed he has not also been followed asked whether it has been followed that's exactly the point i was being made में अदी flatter digital न अ मिलग भी ठाशीवे ल?] तoc, तocеле at that time. तoc, उला करो और फली स्थे ही। अथ भी उनटré 해서. दी मिलग ताशीवाही दें बादे देाय formulation. और भी लगकешा दी कपरा ही ओव्यी कि तर् abi hal. आपकी वाप कीही भूगी न हमें दार वाप कां। overall. ब्यैंगिलना लगाता आप सब तरक्या ट्रूया है अपका तो पुरा स्थ्रक्छर परपस में कर दिया हैं इन इड़्िज मीटी अब the AFF इसब अद़्िट कब Peanut यह आप इड़्ीके झूग आप विर दे कोश स्झों आप दिरचा न मूगिल्याकानीЬ çात पैकोंझा professional ज़ोंग्ताघशोंक Jie नव ही पत्ते省च्तारी लेक्ते काहलो ग़फ्तении देखेश को मुजा बहुत सके दो unbedingt. आन्ये वीछिटनाः, मैंगजास्ती कुरी अब आपका घनाः का सिटीं, मेंगजास्ती कुरी वीछिटनाः। सप्द ग�ery, मेंजास्ती को वोग्य अब पने कुरी वोग्य है, है कुरी रवाज़ारी बावा,आपके जी रब ती सच्वीश्ःगा करते है। Great money, जब तग जितना भी आगर आपर मे बैटके, देली मे बैटके, ये जितना स्टेटस अगर खाम नहीं करेगा, अगर में दूएर. बहुत नहीं नहीं हम लोक है तूवर, हम लोक वी रहा है. रोएगे सें पीकल चलतरेगा. आप ज़ागर देखो, देखो, आप ग्राउन देखो, आप कैसा औरगनाइस कराँ, स्तेत लिगाजा हलत देखो, आप इतना इत सच अगर आएसल जितना भी तीम है, it's well organized, without any doubt well organized, proper 5 star stay, you know, the coaches coming in, there is not only one there, about 5-6 coaches coming in, आप लेकिन उसका नीचे में कितना है, आप स्तेत लिख में कोछे से फीज्यो भी नहीं है कोई कोई तीम में, you know there are so many things, अब इतना अगर गआप होगा, उपर में इतना अच्छा, और बाखी कुछ नहीं, तो how we will improve, आप जागर दिस्रिक लिख दिख हो, दिस्रिक लिख में क्या चल रहें, बचलो खाना नहीं मिल तो फोगे अगर भो, you know there are so many problems going on so I doubt that it will improve, आप तोप में इतना अच्छा देके, there is a backup system at all. अप प्लोडर दिख नहीं बागी, अप बनेगी सोले थीमज बनेंगे, तो वोही नोर्टिस के तीमज फर आपका प्रमोशन् लेलिगेआशन एनेपल भी कर सकते हो आप, बनदे आगगे नहीं वाई बगा, यह तो उनर लीख का वो नहीं समचरे आई बाद जोड आईट प्के चेक्ट का ट्राई वो नहीं समचरे आई बाद डैं ये नेरो का ड्रोग का थकर देखलो स्यडयम भरगता थे पूरा में बढी लीग में वो आचा वोंकों को ताईप के मेंचे से, मलेशिया है, इंदोनियाशिया है, उसके साद खेल के देखो, where we can express, हम लोग वान वान कर सकता है, या हम लोग जीद भी सकता है, जीटा हो आभी है. जो ये चलन रहा हो, it's a time to play them. And focus on, I think, under 23 and even more junior teams playing against those Thailand and Malaysia and these countries. मैं तो बोलता हो, senior team needs to step up, otherwise, how do you know where you are in any context. मैं तो बोलता हो, जो इंदिन अंदर 23 जो खेल के आए, वो बच्चलोग की साद ये senior team की साद खिलाद हो, it will be a good match. तो अरुंगो स्तुडेस दी, स्टोपो बैख फो दीजू जुन्येट्टीं. आब ताई में, senior team का खोच जो था उसने बोला या तु बार हो जा, don't play. तो, because team is leaving day after tomorrow, I don't want my boys to have any lack of confidence. वो बोलता नहीं बन दा. लोग बोलता नहीं है. तो, it's not something new that's coming, it's common knowledge and it's been going on for so long and therein lies the biggest problem for Indian football. तो, that chat of 10 years back यार ग्रुन्डाब ग्रुन्डाब करना है, वो अभी भी हो रहत ड़साल बाद. तो, you know, the story is still there. रही बात अपकी जी सैक्ष ती मैच की उसे कुछ नहीं हो ला. तो सैक्ष ती मैच की बाद, जो अगला आगा फला फला, कोन साभी पास्पोट लेके, उसका भी वोई सैक्ष निक लेगा है से. तो भाई वो उसे कुछ वो रहा है. जेडीप पॉग सेझे को वो लाश चो तो हुज भी तना लंबा रष्ची दीटी आ और खीजने में क्या दिकसे है? अप तो बाई खीछने ही पतेगा दोस, जाए कुछ भी वोजा य अप तो अब आपने जिए 23 एशन कब कोल्ल फाए, कोल्लट्फाय के बाध खेलो. अगर निया और वहाँ वराओ अगर निया वर निया और गाँगा। तुदो साड सै और कोई कामी नहीं होगा अपिसर नहीं है अपिसर कहाँस होगा आप अप्टॉझात बिकनेग of the show अप्टॉझात से आप आप वाईचेद तो अप्टॉझात अरुड करीट लग, धोंद जैदीप, तोन द्रेनरी, जो�ंध रोच़द, धों सदानट, अल उ तुएंग जोंठीद जात कापना। इप आश्वाया गए सीज़़े लगा हैं